More roads generate more traffic, how true a lesson that has still not been learnt. Pollution known about also when this was made yet nothing done still. Perhaps Battery Cars will remove part of the issue but what about tyre and brake dust?
Funny to hear almost the exact same arguments being thrown around today and in this piece from the 80s. No-one seems to realize that maybe life in a large, cramped city sucks because too many people are being squeezed into a space that's too small. This COVID pandemic has definitely made me see the inherent disadvantages in living on top of one another.
Love how the popularity of motor vehicles over trains is ascribed to lobbying and dark forces rather than people liking to be in control of their own journies. They also play the standard trick of quoting large numbers around road costs without also counting the taxes collected on road transport and the benefits of the journies undertaken.
I love how you don’t realise that people were sold the idea of having their own car to get them to acquiesce to having the prospect of an integrated transport system taken from them. I also love how you don’t realise that the cost of maintaining the road system is over £11 billion per annum in 2023 compared to the losses British Rail made it 1960 which is just over £1 billion in 2024 prices.
Did you even watch any of the previous videos? Both the expansion of the railway and the expansion of the roads were done by lobbying and corrupt politicians. They didn't give a fuck about normal people, it was never up to us. When the railways lost profits and the road industry started making money, rich people funded the roads. My personal opinion, and the opinion of this video is that cars came with a lot of problems. However to say that 'people simply liked cars more" is wrong. It was never up to the people.
@@joeycorbett2263 I watched the videos and came to my own conclusion based on stats and 40 years more hindsight since the programme aired. Cars didn't take over from trains they massively expanded the amount of travel we can do, it's just a much bigger opportunity because people want cars and they are more useful. Furthermore there is no rich nation where cars are not the dominant mode including ones with no domestic motor industry to lobby on behalf of. Even in places actively hostile to cars, without a domestic motor industry and with excellent public transport like Switzerland 77% of passenger miles are by car. The rich country with the lowest modal share is Japan which also has a massive car industry yet they didn't lobby the trains out of existence. In countries which are still developing which can see the downsides people still want cars. They have more active car cultures, if they can't afford cars they build their own, if there are no roads they make their own. The "railway brain" doesn't appear to be able to conceive that things can be done from bottom up because that's not possible on rails. Car culture wasn't a product of a car company marketing department it was just big business adopting stuff enthusiasts were doing. There were no factory hotrods, and most car styling trends started in the aftermarket. The key reason cars won is because they could use existing roads, they could operate on farm tracks. They could park on streets and gardens. You don't need majority support to build an industry up.
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Excellent series. Thanks for putting this up. Funny how much, and also how little, things have changed in 40 years, eh?
Bring back a rural service to say the least....
We now have too many cars and vans . Many old properties have no room to park
More roads generate more traffic, how true a lesson that has still not been learnt. Pollution known about also when this was made yet nothing done still. Perhaps Battery Cars will remove part of the issue but what about tyre and brake dust?
Funny to hear almost the exact same arguments being thrown around today and in this piece from the 80s. No-one seems to realize that maybe life in a large, cramped city sucks because too many people are being squeezed into a space that's too small. This COVID pandemic has definitely made me see the inherent disadvantages in living on top of one another.
Love how the popularity of motor vehicles over trains is ascribed to lobbying and dark forces rather than people liking to be in control of their own journies. They also play the standard trick of quoting large numbers around road costs without also counting the taxes collected on road transport and the benefits of the journies undertaken.
I love how you don’t realise that people were sold the idea of having their own car to get them to acquiesce to having the prospect of an integrated transport system taken from them. I also love how you don’t realise that the cost of maintaining the road system is over £11 billion per annum in 2023 compared to the losses British Rail made it 1960 which is just over £1 billion in 2024 prices.
Did you even watch any of the previous videos?
Both the expansion of the railway and the expansion of the roads were done by lobbying and corrupt politicians. They didn't give a fuck about normal people, it was never up to us. When the railways lost profits and the road industry started making money, rich people funded the roads.
My personal opinion, and the opinion of this video is that cars came with a lot of problems. However to say that 'people simply liked cars more" is wrong. It was never up to the people.
@@joeycorbett2263 I watched the videos and came to my own conclusion based on stats and 40 years more hindsight since the programme aired. Cars didn't take over from trains they massively expanded the amount of travel we can do, it's just a much bigger opportunity because people want cars and they are more useful. Furthermore there is no rich nation where cars are not the dominant mode including ones with no domestic motor industry to lobby on behalf of. Even in places actively hostile to cars, without a domestic motor industry and with excellent public transport like Switzerland 77% of passenger miles are by car. The rich country with the lowest modal share is Japan which also has a massive car industry yet they didn't lobby the trains out of existence.
In countries which are still developing which can see the downsides people still want cars. They have more active car cultures, if they can't afford cars they build their own, if there are no roads they make their own.
The "railway brain" doesn't appear to be able to conceive that things can be done from bottom up because that's not possible on rails. Car culture wasn't a product of a car company marketing department it was just big business adopting stuff enthusiasts were doing. There were no factory hotrods, and most car styling trends started in the aftermarket. The key reason cars won is because they could use existing roads, they could operate on farm tracks. They could park on streets and gardens. You don't need majority support to build an industry up.