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Nice tooling you machined there, very impressive! Thats going to be a very interesting solution. very curious especially on the drilling with those miniature spindles, Since you dont have any spindle load indication. A friend of mine used them for 3d surfacing with a 1mm ball endmill, but the cutting forces in that application where close to none.
Yes milling the c-bores should be no problem. But drilling the holes? We shall see. The exhausted coolant gets sprayed on the tool. So it may be hard to tell if the tool is spinning or stalled. I have never used one before. I hope I will be able to hear if it is slowing down, before it stops running. Otherwise it will just break the tool. The holes aren’t to deep. If I have to I can drill with a small drill and mill them to finished size with a small end mill.
Awesome video as always Peter! One of my favorite things about your channel is watching you create the tools you need to solve a problem, it's always interesting.
Those cool speed mini's are pretty cool! I have been using them to 3D surfacing with a 2.5mm ball. I don't get all the power because my pump will not run 1000psi at the required flow rate. I hooked up the little speed gauge they give you and I only run around 55k rpm under load which is only about 55-60% of the rated power. I originally tried a 3mm ball with but even with a light cut I could hear it slow down in the cut. Can't wait to hear how you like them! Nice again btw! I enjoy really enjoy watching you make your own tool!
@@lockgessner I think it was around 1500 but I can't remember if that was the kit or just the cool speed. 🤔 All I know is it saved me alot of time on 3d surfacing and engraving.
@@lockgessner the kit with one spindle three sets of bearings the pressure gauge and assembly feature. Costs around $1200.00 the spindle itself is around $675.00 each and the bearing/impeller set is around &40.00. You need to change the bearing/impeller set with the tool. When you change the tool.
I'm the applications/product engineer at Eltool. Wanted to say your angle head looks great and its really cool you could do it in a DIY setting. Can't wait to see what it can do
Damn man, thats awesome. Excited to see what its capable of, as in capable drive torque and overall deflection. I had never heard of a coolant drive head before your last video, but after i remembered that HP coolant is over 1K psi, i guess it makes sense that you can drive tooling with it. And as always, and awesome video. Thanks
Amazing work, and as always, the level of craftsmanship you put into your tooling (that you could easily hide from everyone), is outstanding. Love the creativity you display constantly, always learning new stuff!
I just saw those WTO Cool speeds at a trade show. Seeing this application really opens up your mind to the possible uses for them. The one question I have is how you know what RPM the tool is at and making sure if you programmed the feedrate assuming it was spinning 30k that it's not at 25k or something and breaking your tool.
The provide in the kit a part you mount in a sealed tool holder. There is a gauge you screw into it. There are holes in the end that have the same restriction to flow as the spindle. When you turn your coolant on it measures the pressure on the gauge. The gauge is also calibrated with the speed the spindle will run at that pressure and volume. The speed is more like 40k to 75k. Depending on you coolant flow and pressure.
Hi there Peter..I love watching your videos. You are very skilled and creative. You certainly know what you doing. Keep up the good work Mr Master CNC Peter
Now that's super impressive, Peter! Can't find the right tool, so make your own! I didn't even realize you could get just a spindle cartridge of a little spindle like that, I figured there was a geartrain or something in there. Either way, super impressive!
You should start throwing some links in your descriptions. I watched this a couple weeks ago then just came back scrubbing through your videos to the part where you talk about who makes the spindle cartridges. Looks like we're making some of these.
1000 psi coolant pressure.. Wholly hell. lol. I'd like to see you do a video mentioning the coolant pump and how it works or what it looks like, ect. Or even a dedicated video on the entire coolant system, and what everything does. It's interesting......... I like how you left the final shape rather blocky and raw-- no need for a fancy, complicated finish since it's just a tool anyway. That's very smart, efficiency wise. I see some guys get tunnel vision on doing everything the absolute best that they can/ when it's much better to know where you can cut corners and be fine with an odd shape, or looser tolerances, ect, when it's not necessary for the precision. cool stuff
Awesome video Peter, I've been looking forward to see your solution. You have properly also been affected by tool and material shortage and have to find a suitable solution. The coolant driven spindle are genius even though I've looking forward to see your sweet little NSK grinder to be the spindle drive. Do you need to have extra fine filter on your coolant supply ? Not to destroy the bearings. Thanks for all the deep knowledge you share, I'm very impressed for the video you made for the differential screw design. Keep safe
I knew make you own was the answer! The WTO heads work fine as long as you keep the tool very short. 50mm shank took about right I find 60mm ones start having problems. You can’t slam it because there’s very little space inside I’ve got a 1mm tool running over 200 hours in cut on my one currently on Ali. The other issue is you have a fat front end. 25mm diameter gave me issues but my other speeder is er11mini. Just pick the right jobs and your good
If that doesn’t work for the endmill, you can buy a spindle driven 90 degree milling head. You can to mount a fixture to your spindle but I’ve seen those work well for milling. Never tried it with the through coolant though. This system appears to be a lot beefier than the ones we used.
Great video, man! I'm glad you put the explanation at the end. Even though I loved the music, I'm not very good at understanding interpretive dance, lol. Still would watch that Mazak chew all day.
Hi Peter, i see you use the CAPTO holder on the chuck(which my research says is a DIN 2079 type face connection) . Can you please explain what that is. Want to use something like that on the spindle of my old Wotan boring machine to enable quick change tooling as it pre dates the times of power drawbars. Also, theres something like a pullstud that you used on the capto blank. A link for the relevant catalog of both items shall be much appreciated. Really impressed with the work you do. Big Fan.
Go to the Sandvik website. In the search type Capto adapter. You will see a list under the search as you type with suggestions. This one is a C8 bolt on one.
I am wondering, how much does his machinery cost? I mean, what he's doing is incredibly cool, but the way that CNC machine is built, is pure bananas... I cannot wrap my brain around how cool is that machine made. I am wondering how much does something like that costs when is new and how much does it costs today...!?
Fantastic, much more interesting than just seeing you program a factory made tool to do the job. Can you discuss the adapter you used to hold the tool blank? I am sure I can find it if I look for it. Kind of looks like it uses the shank of a VDI tool to pull in the capto? Charles
How much force You used for the tailstock support? it is nice to have precise control over the extreme low pressure are for these kind of operations i guess. i had to use similar turbine tool for precision 0,5mm wide slotting work on tubes in a 4th axis operation. they work well with small tools
Hi Peter, Great video! I'm considering purchasing the Cool Speed Mini, but am concerned about the cost of replacing the bearings and impeller with every tool change. How do you press fit the bearings onto the endmill without breaking the endmill? Have you tried re-using the bearings & impeller? Thanks!
In their kit you get a pressing fixture for the shank size you selected. I used a milling vise to press the bearings on with that. It is easy you wont have a problem. I ran all my parts without having to change a tool or the bearings. The 3mm endmill had to run about 40 minutes on each part for a total of 17 parts. When I took the tools out of the tool changer its bearings felt a little rough. I would change them next time. The ones with the drills felt fine after. I don't think I would try to reuse the bearings and impeller. You are also pressing the endmill through the Impeller. I'm not sure if that would hold after the first time. It is some kind of plastic material. Maybe if you immediately broke a tool you could try. But if you have ran a tool for a little while. I wouldn't reuse them. The whole kit with the impeller and bearings is only around $40.00. So its not that much.
The one thing I knoww for sure is I can't afford one of these strut assembly things, whatever they are for! How much money in tooling and days of work to drill and face 2 holes?
I had to pause at 6 minutes in and say I guess the lead time was to long. As I think at this point in the video you decided to make your own 90° coolant powered spindle. I'm continuing the video I hope my guess was correct.
I would like to answer your question, but I don't really understand what you are asking. The Capto shank is what the taper is in the milling spindle of this machine. So in order to mount a tool it has to be a Capto 8 shank on the tool. The tool I'm am making here is a coolant powered 90 degree head driven by (of course) the high pressure thru the spindle coolant in the milling spindle on this machine. So I needed these 90 degree heads for a job I was doing in the machine. See my playlist "Aluminum Landing Gear Strut" for more on all of this. Hope that answers your questions. Thanks!
Is there any specific reason for machining the part on X axis, despite of longitudinal way ( on 3:56 ) , And I am afraid of bending part while material removed, Maybe Just because am not familiar with machining, I am sales resp. at cutting tool brand , Thanks for your attention, Best regards.
It could be done either way. But the profile is really the left wall perpendicular to the part. (Actually the path across the part is in the Y axis. Length wise is X axis) If there wasn’t that vertical wall on the left side it would work good. But feeding into the wall leaves half radius of the tool that would have to be removed with a cut across the part. But as I said it could be done that way as well.
Hey Peter that's a great alternative to paying a fortune for the EL tool right angle head. DIY is the way to go. Love your videos. Keep them coming.
The real fortune is the time you spent how you like, He is not working for paying bills, rent, mortgage etc. He is working just because love and enjoy 😄 You remember , there were anvils with his first letters 😄😄 This was really fortune 😄 Regards…
El also has bmt65 version thats not coolant driven
You do more to inspire hobby machinist than you can ever imagine.
Wow that is very cool I had never seen this tech. You never disappoint with your endless abilities at problem solving. Wow is all a can say
Nice tooling you machined there, very impressive!
Thats going to be a very interesting solution. very curious especially on the drilling with those miniature spindles, Since you dont have any spindle load indication.
A friend of mine used them for 3d surfacing with a 1mm ball endmill, but the cutting forces in that application where close to none.
Yes milling the c-bores should be no problem. But drilling the holes? We shall see. The exhausted coolant gets sprayed on the tool. So it may be hard to tell if the tool is spinning or stalled. I have never used one before. I hope I will be able to hear if it is slowing down, before it stops running. Otherwise it will just break the tool. The holes aren’t to deep. If I have to I can drill with a small drill and mill them to finished size with a small end mill.
just when you think you know about everything in the industry you come in and blow my mind out this is really awesome thank you a lot peter
Awesome video as always Peter! One of my favorite things about your channel is watching you create the tools you need to solve a problem, it's always interesting.
Those cool speed mini's are pretty cool! I have been using them to 3D surfacing with a 2.5mm ball. I don't get all the power because my pump will not run 1000psi at the required flow rate. I hooked up the little speed gauge they give you and I only run around 55k rpm under load which is only about 55-60% of the rated power. I originally tried a 3mm ball with but even with a light cut I could hear it slow down in the cut. Can't wait to hear how you like them! Nice again btw! I enjoy really enjoy watching you make your own tool!
How much do these cost ballpark? Looked on there site and couldn’t find pricing
@@lockgessner I think it was around 1500 but I can't remember if that was the kit or just the cool speed. 🤔 All I know is it saved me alot of time on 3d surfacing and engraving.
@@lockgessner the kit with one spindle three sets of bearings the pressure gauge and assembly feature. Costs around $1200.00 the spindle itself is around $675.00 each and the bearing/impeller set is around &40.00. You need to change the bearing/impeller set with the tool. When you change the tool.
@@EdgePrecision is the bearing/impeller junk then when you change the tool or do you just pull it out to change the tool in it?
I'm the applications/product engineer at Eltool. Wanted to say your angle head looks great and its really cool you could do it in a DIY setting. Can't wait to see what it can do
I love the fact that you decided to build the tool instead of buying them. Bravo.
Love how you make your own tools to solve difficult machining problems 👍🏻
Damn man, thats awesome. Excited to see what its capable of, as in capable drive torque and overall deflection.
I had never heard of a coolant drive head before your last video, but after i remembered that HP coolant is over 1K psi, i guess it makes sense that you can drive tooling with it.
And as always, and awesome video. Thanks
Amazing work, and as always, the level of craftsmanship you put into your tooling (that you could easily hide from everyone), is outstanding. Love the creativity you display constantly, always learning new stuff!
So Peter makes his own angle head. Should of known. Good stuff Peter!!!! 😎👍🏽
Peter, this is just fantastic.
Your cinematography is getting better and better.
Well I'm captivated now! Thanks Peter, cant hardly wait for the next video. 😀
Ha, that threw me for a loop when I saw you pull the endmill tool out of the workpiece chuck.
That's a nice method to get the rotational alignment.
Gorgeous program. Very clean and as always your videos inspire me to try new things in our shop. Thanks for sharing!
Few have mastered the CAD/CAM/Articulating Head CNC workflow. Clearly, you have. (I’m still working on it.). Thanks for sharing!
Everytime I watch one of your videos I learn! Today I watched a part made that is a piece of art!
Thanks for sharing the video, it's very interesting for me since I'm experiencing the variety of tool holders and their operations.
I just saw those WTO Cool speeds at a trade show. Seeing this application really opens up your mind to the possible uses for them. The one question I have is how you know what RPM the tool is at and making sure if you programmed the feedrate assuming it was spinning 30k that it's not at 25k or something and breaking your tool.
The provide in the kit a part you mount in a sealed tool holder. There is a gauge you screw into it. There are holes in the end that have the same restriction to flow as the spindle. When you turn your coolant on it measures the pressure on the gauge. The gauge is also calibrated with the speed the spindle will run at that pressure and volume. The speed is more like 40k to 75k. Depending on you coolant flow and pressure.
I have never missed a video. You are a wonderful teacher!
That’s an awesome solution to doing what you need to do to machine those parts. I love the problem solving that you do,
Hi there Peter..I love watching your videos. You are very skilled and creative. You certainly know what you doing. Keep up the good work Mr Master CNC Peter
You have no Idea how much I enjoyed that.
Haw man you have revived the spirit of innovation💡 , not every thing must be bought.
Another great video. Anxious to see this tool in action.
It is very interesting that they will sell the spindle cartidges alone so that you can make your own holders.
Outstanding, nothing else to say, simply outstanding. But am looking forward to seeing you fit them. Thank you
Now that's super impressive, Peter! Can't find the right tool, so make your own! I didn't even realize you could get just a spindle cartridge of a little spindle like that, I figured there was a geartrain or something in there. Either way, super impressive!
WTO strikes again! Used there live tooling holders in my swiss turns . Unbelievably tough tooling. Love them! Good investment Peter 😉
Some marvelous engineering!
I would be happy to have half of your abilities. Always fascinating.
You should start throwing some links in your descriptions. I watched this a couple weeks ago then just came back scrubbing through your videos to the part where you talk about who makes the spindle cartridges. Looks like we're making some of these.
Awesome video Peter as always very informative. Your ability is beyond compare. Keep them coming.
Love your videos Pete, thank you. I was wondering how you’re gonna make that little slot inside part and now I see. Genius
WTO makes solid stuff. I bought All 10 live tools for my New lathe from them.
Nice tools Peter.
Big version of a dentist drill that runs on coolant. Very interesting. Could be easy to Diy the turbine and make any size.
1000 psi coolant pressure.. Wholly hell. lol. I'd like to see you do a video mentioning the coolant pump and how it works or what it looks like, ect. Or even a dedicated video on the entire coolant system, and what everything does. It's interesting......... I like how you left the final shape rather blocky and raw-- no need for a fancy, complicated finish since it's just a tool anyway. That's very smart, efficiency wise. I see some guys get tunnel vision on doing everything the absolute best that they can/ when it's much better to know where you can cut corners and be fine with an odd shape, or looser tolerances, ect, when it's not necessary for the precision. cool stuff
He already has. Look back.
@@fpoastro that's a lot of work.. just link it for me
@@calholli pffft
Didn't even cross my mind that machining the tool itself was an option. Learning something new every time these videos pop up. Keep up the great work!
👍superb craftsmanship as always!
I appreciate the courage to diy
This is fascinating to me! Can’t wait for part two!
As always, great job with these toolholders :)
Awesome video Peter, I've been looking forward to see your solution. You have properly also been affected by tool and material shortage and have to find a suitable solution. The coolant driven spindle are genius even though I've looking forward to see your sweet little NSK grinder to be the spindle drive. Do you need to have extra fine filter on your coolant supply ? Not to destroy the bearings. Thanks for all the deep knowledge you share, I'm very impressed for the video you made for the differential screw design. Keep safe
The high pressure thru coolant pump already has a 10 micron filter on it. That is finer than necessary. So the Cool Speed people say.
Way to go! That's fantastic.
I knew make you own was the answer!
The WTO heads work fine as long as you keep the tool very short. 50mm shank took about right I find 60mm ones start having problems. You can’t slam it because there’s very little space inside
I’ve got a 1mm tool running over 200 hours in cut on my one currently on Ali.
The other issue is you have a fat front end. 25mm diameter gave me issues but my other speeder is er11mini. Just pick the right jobs and your good
Talk about underpromise and overdeliver... Looks sweet, cant wait for next video
Excellent! I was wondering what you were going to decide on after the last video! Looking forward to seeing these things come alive!
Nice work. I love making tools.
Nice! I probably would have made them full length from those blanks because be my luck next job I would need one a little longer. LOL
If that doesn’t work for the endmill, you can buy a spindle driven 90 degree milling head. You can to mount a fixture to your spindle but I’ve seen those work well for milling. Never tried it with the through coolant though. This system appears to be a lot beefier than the ones we used.
Very clever! I'm always impressed 👌!
Great video, man! I'm glad you put the explanation at the end. Even though I loved the music, I'm not very good at understanding interpretive dance, lol. Still would watch that Mazak chew all day.
Oh Yeah! Tool building, my favorite part 😁
Thats pretty sweet I've been wanting to get one of those tsc spindle speeders
good video `peter..thanks for your time
I wonder is anyone has ever built a lathe or mill with a hydraulic powered spindle. What an interesting little tool.
"So this little spindle cartridge thing fits in there nicely" I.E. Perfect
Amazing! Thanks for share this with us!
nice work , just love to seat and staring at maden parts
Excellent work!
This is just one of the reasons to have thru spindle coolant. The option to do this. Besides one shotting holes, and not have to peck.
Brilliant, I'm very eager to see how these work out.
This is fantastic and amazing. Thank you.
That’s freaking awesome!!
Looking forward to seeing how you achieve the fit between the cartridge and the body
Boring head
I don't quite understand how the coolant bore was done. Do these blanks come with a blind hole in them?
No I drilled it first. Didn’t show that in the video.
I'm really surprised you didn't chamfer the edges of the tool holder. Those edges look sharp.
I’m going to deburr them with my NSK grinder.
Very very cool is there anything Peter can
not do!!! Man I’d love to work side by side with you for a few years!!!
Hi Peter, i see you use the CAPTO holder on the chuck(which my research says is a DIN 2079 type face connection) . Can you please explain what that is. Want to use something like that on the spindle of my old Wotan boring machine to enable quick change tooling as it pre dates the times of power drawbars. Also, theres something like a pullstud that you used on the capto blank. A link for the relevant catalog of both items shall be much appreciated. Really impressed with the work you do. Big Fan.
Go to the Sandvik website. In the search type Capto adapter. You will see a list under the search as you type with suggestions. This one is a C8 bolt on one.
Damn, You the man Peter!
I am wondering, how much does his machinery cost? I mean, what he's doing is incredibly cool, but the way that CNC machine is built, is pure bananas... I cannot wrap my brain around how cool is that machine made. I am wondering how much does something like that costs when is new and how much does it costs today...!?
Very nice tooling!
Fantastic, much more interesting than just seeing you program a factory made tool to do the job. Can you discuss the adapter you used to hold the tool blank? I am sure I can find it if I look for it. Kind of looks like it uses the shank of a VDI tool to pull in the capto? Charles
Very nice and cool idea.
Thanks Randy. I hope after all this work it works. The people that make it say it should.
This was fascinating.
Great video thanks Peter
Can't get it in time? Just make one yourself! Great idea to spend the fixture making time on something more versatile.
Amazing Peter!
Great job Peter. Love to see tooling being made. What sliding fit clearance did you use between the spindle cartridge and the bore?
How much force You used for the tailstock support? it is nice to have precise control over the extreme low pressure are for these kind of operations i guess. i had to use similar turbine tool for precision 0,5mm wide slotting work on tubes in a 4th axis operation. they work well with small tools
Nicely done. 👍
Great Video. Are you satisfied with the Bison chuck? Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Yes. This 4-jaw has worked fine.
great video, I didn't know that you can get that small spindle cartridges
Hi Peter,
Great video! I'm considering purchasing the Cool Speed Mini, but am concerned about the cost of replacing the bearings and impeller with every tool change. How do you press fit the bearings onto the endmill without breaking the endmill? Have you tried re-using the bearings & impeller?
Thanks!
In their kit you get a pressing fixture for the shank size you selected. I used a milling vise to press the bearings on with that. It is easy you wont have a problem. I ran all my parts without having to change a tool or the bearings. The 3mm endmill had to run about 40 minutes on each part for a total of 17 parts. When I took the tools out of the tool changer its bearings felt a little rough. I would change them next time. The ones with the drills felt fine after. I don't think I would try to reuse the bearings and impeller. You are also pressing the endmill through the Impeller. I'm not sure if that would hold after the first time. It is some kind of plastic material. Maybe if you immediately broke a tool you could try. But if you have ran a tool for a little while. I wouldn't reuse them. The whole kit with the impeller and bearings is only around $40.00. So its not that much.
Don*t wait to long with NeXT video :)the tension is unbearable haha very interesting
I don't know what is it for, but it looks like it's been made with edge precision.
The one thing I knoww for sure is I can't afford one of these strut assembly things, whatever they are for! How much money in tooling and days of work to drill and face 2 holes?
I had to pause at 6 minutes in and say I guess the lead time was to long. As I think at this point in the video you decided to make your own 90° coolant powered spindle. I'm continuing the video I hope my guess was correct.
Peter, what feed mill were you using to rough those with? How did the inserts hold up? Thanks for the Great videos!!!
Its a 1.00" diameter Iscar one. I did all the roughing on all three parts without indexing the inserts.
wow!! amazing!! thanks for sharing
So awesome!
Awesome tool engineering there. One thing to mention though, spindle speeders are high rpm but low torque, so light cuts are recommended.
Yes I already discussed it with the people that sell it. They said it should do what I need.
Hi, could you explain the fixture you are using here and what the coupling is called that is being used with the capto end of the tool ?
Thanks Adam
I would like to answer your question, but I don't really understand what you are asking. The Capto shank is what the taper is in the milling spindle of this machine. So in order to mount a tool it has to be a Capto 8 shank on the tool. The tool I'm am making here is a coolant powered 90 degree head driven by (of course) the high pressure thru the spindle coolant in the milling spindle on this machine. So I needed these 90 degree heads for a job I was doing in the machine. See my playlist "Aluminum Landing Gear Strut" for more on all of this. Hope that answers your questions. Thanks!
I am curious to know how the turbines work. There was a discussion about them on PM but the consensus was mixed.
Very very cool! (pun intended!)
I bet the comment section will get flooded with puns.
Thanks Peter.
Is there any specific reason for machining the part on X axis, despite of longitudinal way ( on 3:56 ) ,
And
I am afraid of bending part while material removed,
Maybe Just because am not familiar with machining, I am sales resp. at cutting tool brand ,
Thanks for your attention,
Best regards.
It could be done either way. But the profile is really the left wall perpendicular to the part. (Actually the path across the part is in the Y axis. Length wise is X axis) If there wasn’t that vertical wall on the left side it would work good. But feeding into the wall leaves half radius of the tool that would have to be removed with a cut across the part. But as I said it could be done that way as well.
Genius, thanks for sharing. No more $8k Eltools needed, hahaha