I was at this show. The band was tight! I think the best quote I heard was from one of the tech crew that I know there. She said, "Sound check was incredible.....and then Ace showed up".
This is only my opinion. I'd call this an average performance that feels more like a rehearsal masquerading as a 1st show of a tour. It feels like these paid guns are doing everything they can to make Ace's songs work. I give them credit for keeping it afloat. But...boy. I come from a school of thought where the legend in the center (whos "still got it", as they enter their twilight) anchors the tune with... lets call it "weathered mastery" and the people around him take it to another level. It seems to me Ace's ethos is true to his live show- lazy, flashy, and fun. He gets the crowd into it, he highlights the night with hits and his brand new single, but musically, he's all over the place and vocally, I'm sorry, but I just don't believe his words nor his pitches. I get it. Rock n' roll doesn't need to be precise. It should be a little rough around the edges. That what keeps it exciting, when it almost goes off the rails and it feels like something's being said. But I also think you should continue to hone your craft and hopefully keep trying to reach for something new, with a wisdom and focus you can only achieve by challenging yourself. Perhaps he has in ways I'm not hip to. It doesn't reflect so in this one. What I feel from this show is a guy who's charming, care-free, and has made some positive changes for himself, but hasnt been sharpening his sword in the process. I think its important to have both. I'll admit I'm a little biased, but I think everyone can agree, theres more work to be done. And I have to say this- I've listened to his interviews these past few years and feel hes been more focused on being a victim, then taking ownership for his ability. I can understand his frustration, but not how he expresses it. I guess I had hoped he'd reach the opposite perspective, finding humility and taking ownership such as bands like Metallica, The Mars Volta or Blink 182 have. Oh well. I still adore the "Detroit Rock City" duel guitar solos. - Thanks for posting this concert man!
Ace should work on his craft more but he's to busy shopping for Boars Head Roast Beef and Pumpkin pie at the store. Lol You think for a first show , he'd have better bandmates and sing better.Sad all the hype over this New album and this stage performance is horrible and sloppy ! Shame on Ace , he could do so much better to improve and make this tour better.Sorry but I'm just saying how I feel.I love ❤️ Ace but this concert stank.Sorry but thats how I feel.Lets all pray 🙏 Ace steps up his game for this tour.
10000 volts isn't terrible . He can pull off vocals good enough in the studio. It gets worse and worse live. Poor Ace and Poor Paul. It's hard to listen to. But unlike Paul. Ace definitely reads these comments ...love ya Ace Mick was right "What a drag it is getting old"
@@AlmostReady504Dude, 10,000 volts was a train wreck. Its pretty obvious they didn't spend much time rehearsing it. Shit they didn't even know how to end it. Not every song needs a crescendo ending.
Vocals and playing needs a lil polishing, but considering hes pushing 73 yrs old and killed half his brain cells in the70s i got huge respect 🙌🙌 hes a ripper for sure 👍
I seen this guy back in 1975 with KISS and had a smile on my face the entire time, now 49 years later i am practically in tears! I actually feel embarrased for him! This is tragic in every way imaginable! This was not just a "Off night" by any means and clearly it is waaayyy past that time where you just hang it up and accept who you once were.
So happy to see this concert. Ace is Mr Rock n Roll and now I got the feelings that we had when we heard Kiss in the 70th, that real hard Rock n Roll. That amazing sound and hard style. Great band!
Man, I was there and, the guy played his ass off it was very entertaining and, he was very pleasant and polite especially to the two little girls by the stage but, his band can sing very well, Ace can still play at 72 and, he admitted that his voice wasn’t the best
Just saw him 30 miss awaz from me in anderson indiana at a legendary old old theater he was very very good a legend everyone was singing along aswell as 3 people crowd surfed (that I saw might of been more) but opening band I wasnt a fan of there music but have major respect as they were very personal throwing picks and pins making sure everyone that was within 8 rows got them and they shook and highfived everyone but ace was 10 times better then I was imagining he worked hard and I dont think he deserves the hate everyone has given him recently and I didnt know he was playing every night he played your show and played here in anderson indiana a daz after to 1200 people
@@steviesteve8462 72 or not, he’s charging people money to see this garbage. Good for him I suppose that he’s still able to tap into people’s nostalgia for the original Kiss lineup
Did they even rehearse 10000!?!? Omg ... its like Ace is a last minute fill in singer in a cover band and does not quite no the material. Grear studio magic by Steve Brown
Jesus I know, he needs to not play it live or not sing it. He can't play it and sing it at the same time or maybe can't sing at all.. The worst I have ever heard him.
@@lovegun67Did you record this yourself? One of the best concert recordings i've seen. Had to have been a video camera or at least a phone on a tripod. No movement whatsoever, clear sound, very good stuff. Thanks.
Absolutely agree here! He's cleaned up his performance for sure. I didn't see your post when I posted my comments above this morning. Also responded to another question about how much Ace makes per show, net worth, etc.
yet according to Steve Brown in the WDHA radio interview he said Ace can sing very well and is very good at singing in key. He also claims no autotune was used on 10kv.
This is great! In a world where a majority of artists are using autotune and/or prerecorded tracks and faking it, this 70+ year old player is still kicking ass raw and live. A few rough edges? He could tighten it up a bit. Whatever. Sounds great to me. Especially for an audience recording. (This isn't a "soundboard" folks.) Would love to have been there. Rock on, Ace! Can't wait for the new record!
IMPORTANT - Let's get something crystal clear. I gave ACE a hard time on TH-cam over the years. I wish he would have kept his sh!t together and created more music with Kiss. But at the end of the day, this man is my guitar hero. There is no KISS without ACE. Hope to see him on tour soon.
@@rioriggs3568 IF you watched this performance of ACE and are honest with yourself you would have no choice but to know that for a absolute fact! The train not only past but it no longer even runs!
Wow...that sounded like what I would hear from some local band at a county fair....100,000 Volts is a great studio song, sounded like total garbage live...that should tell you something.
Yeah there is no way that is Ace playing on the studio version, gotta be a session guitarist, and the vocals on the studio version are heavily altered.
@@rodbelding9523No, I'm sure he's playing on it, but it was probably heavily cut and edited. The solo was probably about 5 solos that had the best bits comped into 1. I've worked with Pro Tools, and it's amazing what you can do
Is it me or am I imagining things? The way Ace came out almost reminded me of a little kid interrupting his nap time. He basically has a bored look on him. You would think a performer who has a pretty good following and a well known name and background to boot would be more excited.
Found out about the show way too late and couldn't get tix. And only live about 20 miles from the venue. Def appreciate this posting. Yeah it's sloppy and we've all seen better, but gotta love Ace. All in all not too bad anyway.
One thing i think we can all agree on about Ace: hes probably not holed up in his studio practicing. Anyone want to guess how much hes making per show? I don't have any idea
Hey! According to his management group, his booking fee in 2023/2024 is between $25K-39K. That's simply the fee to book a show where Ace would be the headlining act. My source is CTI (Celebrity Talent Int'l) and they're pretty accurate with their numbers. They also do not negotiate for acts who pledge their profits from a show to charity - as CTI requires a payor contract so they get paid comp per performance. As for what he actually makes per show, those estimates appear to vary greatly. Some sources estimate Frehley earns between $150K-$300K per show. I'm 99.95% sure that's fairly inaccurate. The venues he's booked the last 5-10 years do not support the size crowds to support those figures. Other sources who also debunk the above numbers argue it's more in the $50-$75K range per show. This seems a bit more in line with the industry and his status to draw crowds. Depending on the source, his total net worth sits at between $12-$15 Million. The above per show figures may not include additional income from album sales, royalties, and merchandise associated with KISS and his solo projects. PS- Knowing he has a fairly small, but experienced, road crew and of course he has to pay his band.. my personally opinion is he's making somewhere between $75K-$125K per show - all in. He pays his crew and band, pays the cut to the promoter (based on door draw) and venue expenses. Plus travel, food, hotel, etc.. which can be a business write off at year-end for tax purposes. I think my number is ok and solid - but still probably just my best guess with my past network experience covering production over the years.
@rdgSWwot I'd be surprised if it's that much. Im thinking more like 25K if its a flat fee, or MAYBE a 60/40 split with Ace getting the 60 and the venue getting the 40. I looked up the capacity of this venue, and it's 428. Either he's making way less, or the ticket prices would have to be astronomical for the promoters to make money. I don't think his net worth is over a million. He owes the IRS 200K and can't pay.
@@JokersWild70 I agree it’s nothing like they report. And he does owe the IRS.. they’re holding his passport thus no European shows yet. I’d add that your net worth applies across your income holdings. So it could be over $1M or even $12M but that doesn’t necessarily mean you have that as disposable income or even profit. Knowing him, he’s blown through most of it. He’s basically a working musician now.
Ace Frehley, virtuoso e excelente guitarrista da cena rock é célula ou chama eterna e viva do Kiss. Graças a Deus! Saúde,; proteção, força, criatividade, disposição e vida longa para ele. Bote mais energia aí Frehley, vc pode e deve, é com0etente e capaz. VIDA LONGA AO KIßS E ACE, JUNTOS OU SEPARADOS! BPF! 😜🤟
I love that he just tosses out picks alot it's so cool to catch a pick from your favorite band it seems kiss was the first to toss alot of custome picks
Even if I give Ace a hard Time in some comments on TH-cam I don't want him to stop cause now that KISS has retired I am wanting to see him live even more. By the way 10 000 Volts kicks major Ass. No bad songs. Pure Rock'n'roll
I love Ace but this is getting ridiculous with everyone saying he's been off the road or his voice wasn't good that night. It's called Practice. Does he not have any band rehearsal before going out to play these dates? If he does, then it truly is over.
Not understanding why the songs sound slow and sluggish. The timing is horribly inaccurate - did the drummer even listen to the source material? Maybe it's the drum triggers? The guitarists keep looking at the drummer who's literally staring off playing whatever he wants. Not that it could really help the cringe guitar player standing in front of Ace mouthing the words to the songs.
As a drummer, I can tell you: the drummer is playing quarter notes on his high hat on almost every song. Peter Criss almost always played 8th notes on the high hat, and slightly ahead of the beat, which gives the songs a bit of urgency. That's exactly why most of them are dragging. If you listen to the studio version of "Shock Me," the tempo is just about the same as it is here
This is from his website.."..For the first time in nearly 20 years, the legendary guitarist has concocted an explosive new solo effort. Flaunting fiery riffs, pristine production and jaw-dropping craftsmanship.." But to watch that live..free entrance..free beer..my guitar hero when i was 9/10 yr old....he doesnt look like he is having any fun😞
His previous tours were fine.. this gig!!! 😮Ace obviously is pissed or high or both!!! 17 years sober?????? His ex mate on TH-cam said if you believe that then 😂😂😂😂😂😂 he’s drinking unfortunately he will be lucky to see the end of the tour out at this rate!
Ace is surrounded by total "yes men." Nobody has the balls to tell him, "Hey Ace, maybe you should practice a bit before embarking on a tour, taking people's hard-earned money yet sounding like you haven't picked up a guitar in 30 years." I don't understand how his band can hold a straight face after this embarrassment.
It's not what I expected. But Ace gave "HIS" best. And he loves KISS❤. No matter what he says, he honors Paul by performing his "Detroit Rock City" and the Paul/Gene anthem "Rock and Roll All Nite". Ace still wants to be forever KISS. Good guy. But more dead than ALIVE!
Oh man. If I didn't love Ace as much as I do, I would totally pan his performance this night. That said, he is still Ace Frehley, and the spectacle of it is as such.
It's his brain, not working even at a 10% any longer, Paul lost his voice but could still deliver a show (although lypsyncing) and Gene will show why not being an addict is the right way of living this year with his solo shows
for god sake hang it up! i keep opening these thinking it cant get worse. how can you screw up communication break down and how many more times. been playing rock n roll all night for forty years and cant remember it. i love ace but there's no defending this its beyond terrible. watch the band they're. trying to cover the best they can. the solo sounded like a bad day at guitar center. if you think he can still play find a guitar teacher who s never heard of kiss and play this for him. hell tell you the truth. hes a legendary guitarist that had great stage presence and his leads were great 25 years ago. he cant play or sing anymore make all the excuses you want this is proof
thank you. i click on it. good video. great sound and close. i make hundreds of kiss videos to bro and i got tons of front row ace shows with kulick on stage and singer with ace. and him with frehleys comet at indy expo when they reunited on stage. peace. thanks for the upload
@@lovegun67 you should see the versions i have with him bruce kulick on stage with eric singer. then frehleys comet gets on stage for the first time in decades and they do all the frehleys comet songs. it was kiss indy expo. my kiss indy expo 2018 mountainous rockumentary is 50 minutes long. i show the meet and greet. merch. my boots get signed. you see both nights of ace shows with ace on stage with different guys and a few songs later a few others get on there with ace.
I was there too at the Grand Theater last night. It's been about 45 years since I was really a KISS fan, but it was a great show and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Really impressive that he can still rock so hard at 72. The awesome backing band--especially that incredible drummer--also added a lot.
One other comment I want to make about this is that if this video was not chopped up and only certain songs were played I am disappointed.This is Ace's concert not kiss. Ace is playing nothing but a lot of kiss songs instead of his songs and if that's all ace is doing is promoting old kiss music instead of his new album there's no way I want to put any money towards seeing him I really just want to see him and him playing his music maybe dabble in just a little of the past but just him singing lead on the songs that he sang while with kiss.
@@gregjohnson298So the rhythm guitars in the 70s on the tracks of Paul, Demon and Peter were played by Stanley alone? Considering that their live shows in the 70s sounded decent, is it strange, because Ace's guitar sounded louder than Paul's guitar in the live shows?
At the end of "Back in the New York Groove", it would have been cool if they launched into "Baba O Reilly" by The Who since it has the same chord progression.
Ewwww.....if you say so. I have always found it a turn off when I am listening to an artist I like and they suddenly reference another artists song like that. Ends up sounding like a Vegas oldies revue. Lol. Do a cover of the whole song, or just don't bother. That's only me. To each their own.
I love Ace his new album (which I am sure I am going to buy) and of course him as a person but he has to practice on playing guitar and singing at the same time. Please Ace, go rehearse a little more!
That “guitar solo” … I don’t want to remember Ace like this. I think I’ll go put the first Frehley’s Comet album on repeat and hope it purges my memory of this atrocity
Not a horrible job on Shock Me. But after watching this, I can totally understand why Paul Stanley would call a reunion with Ace....'Piss'. Too many years of frying his brain.
I like Ace, spaceinvader is my favorite album that he has done. Kiss was all about the show and the spectacle thats why they became so big but this is such a low butget show with that wrinkled shower curtain in the backgrund. Maybe if he had a screen with different images instead and a better light show might help it. Wonder if there was anyone there under 40.
Glad to hear that. Went to see Robert Plant with Alisson Crauss last summer and I swear that crowd was ancient, there were people there with walkers. Nothing against that but it just goes to show the generation gap.
Bota esse batera para aumentar um pouco a velocidade, Ace que se vire, ele dá seu jeito, tem competência para isso, e solte esa voz também, my brother. Jogue duro!
he's been off the road for a few weeks LMFAO He just played a gig in Vegas in Dec and before that a summer tour that wrapped up in Aug/Sept and he's been working on an album! Quit making excuses for him, Keith Richards is nearly a decade older and done more drugs than Ace and plays flawlessly! This is due to Ace just doesn't give a F*CK!
50 years of performing, drugs, alcohol and being CONSTANTLY shit on by Gene and Paul, has taken its toll. I still dig him though. Ace made KISS. And Gene and Paul should be kissing his ass. Ace has put out album after album over the years, and KISS has been constantly "retiring" like old whores. I've always loved Ace, but I wouldn't go see this show, sadly. Also $1,000.00 to sign my Gibson Les Paul is a Gene Simmons move. Even the "cheap" package of $500.00 is ridiculous. But hey, get it if you can Ace. This show is 100% Ace. Not singing into the mic about 60% of the time, semi-killer on the guitar, sounding like it's the 3rd time ever that they've all played it together. Thank you Neal for posting this. Saved me about $2,000 in travel, (flight, hotel), tickets, VIP signing, etc.
Why is it every time I see vids of his concerts he doesn't even have a light show? That's part of rock and roll mang and what makes a good show imo. Hell, even no name bands have a LITTLE lighting.
Watch Ace live from about 2008-2012 instead.. Thats fucking fantastic. Can really recommend ”Ace Fehley live in Erie PA 2012” here on TH-cam. Looking forward to the new album. But really, nowadays maybe he SHOULD do some coke before the shows …?
What a shame, sad for the people who paid for that sh.1t show, can you imagine Tommy playing that setlist, i know i know he isn't the original but he will do it like a champ, not missing a note and singing as someone with the entire brain still functional
@@jimbo0411since it was the first time he ever played 10,000 Volts, what are you comparing it to? Or are you saying it's the worst you've ever heard him period?
Only thing missing is Ritchie Scarlet. Can’t take your money to the next life, Only Love crosses to the next life. . Get Ritchie up there running around the stage. Triple guitar threat and Ritchie deserves it.
Richie is too talented for this lot, he's probably glad NOT to be a part of it! A sideman shouldn't have to carry the show for the main attraction! Ace should just retire no amount of guitars is going to fix him!
@@JamesK-i9eDon't show your ignorance. There are PLENTY of rockers that are in their 70's, that are still brilliant. Tommy Shaw (Styx), Glen Hughes, Paul Rodgers (Bad Co), Alice Cooper, Joe Lynn Turner, Derek St. Holmes (Ted Nugent band) Roger Daltry, Jack Blades, John Waite, Sammy Hagar, Tom Johnston.(Doobie Brothers) and a ton more!!!! These guys also "PREPARE" before they go out and perform. This was awful! When Ace did sing, he sounded deeper and sang into the mic 30-50% of the time. He couldn't replicate anywhere near the good studio sound of 10,000 volts. An absolute train wreck. And a sad way to represent a song that has so much buzz. Very unfortunate!! Especially after ALL the hype and praise we've been hearing on Ace's upcoming album. The only "something" that Ace is doing here is embarrassing himself. And you probably realize that too!!
I was at this show. The band was tight! I think the best quote I heard was from one of the tech crew that I know there. She said, "Sound check was incredible.....and then Ace showed up".
😅
So was this the whole show? Cold Gin and Parasite would've been nice.
This band is tighter than shit and all members have charisma!
@@steviesteve8462 Yeah the band is fine but ACE is a trainwreck on stage! He barely can even play simple bar chords anymore! This was embarassing af!
I love you Ace......please STOP this live MADNESS!!!!! Absoulutly embarrassing........please...STOP!!!!!!
Totally Agree, this is GOD AWFUL!
AGREE!!! How can anyone say different? This was disgustingly bad on ACE's part! The band was fine but his playing was absolute Garbage!
Es su vida tocar
This is only my opinion.
I'd call this an average performance that feels more like a rehearsal masquerading as a 1st show of a tour. It feels like these paid guns are doing everything they can to make Ace's songs work. I give them credit for keeping it afloat.
But...boy. I come from a school of thought where the legend in the center (whos "still got it", as they enter their twilight) anchors the tune with... lets call it "weathered mastery" and the people around him take it to another level.
It seems to me Ace's ethos is true to his live show- lazy, flashy, and fun. He gets the crowd into it, he highlights the night with hits and his brand new single, but musically, he's all over the place and vocally, I'm sorry, but I just don't believe his words nor his pitches.
I get it. Rock n' roll doesn't need to be precise. It should be a little rough around the edges. That what keeps it exciting, when it almost goes off the rails and it feels like something's being said.
But I also think you should continue to hone your craft and hopefully keep trying to reach for something new, with a wisdom and focus you can only achieve by challenging yourself. Perhaps he has in ways I'm not hip to. It doesn't reflect so in this one.
What I feel from this show is a guy who's charming, care-free, and has made some positive changes for himself, but hasnt been sharpening his sword in the process. I think its important to have both.
I'll admit I'm a little biased, but I think everyone can agree, theres more work to be done.
And I have to say this- I've listened to his interviews these past few years and feel hes been more focused on being a victim, then taking ownership for his ability. I can understand his frustration, but not how he expresses it. I guess I had hoped he'd reach the opposite perspective, finding humility and taking ownership such as bands like Metallica, The Mars Volta or Blink 182 have. Oh well. I still adore the "Detroit Rock City" duel guitar solos.
- Thanks for posting this concert man!
Well said.
Ace should work on his craft more but he's to busy shopping for Boars Head Roast Beef and Pumpkin pie at the store. Lol You think for a first show , he'd have better bandmates and sing better.Sad all the hype over this New album and this stage performance is horrible and sloppy ! Shame on Ace , he could do so much better to improve and make this tour better.Sorry but I'm just saying how I feel.I love ❤️ Ace but this concert stank.Sorry but thats how I feel.Lets all pray 🙏 Ace steps up his game for this tour.
10000 volts isn't terrible .
He can pull off vocals good enough in the studio. It gets worse and worse live. Poor Ace and Poor Paul. It's hard to listen to. But unlike Paul.
Ace definitely reads these comments ...love ya Ace
Mick was right
"What a drag it is getting old"
@@AlmostReady504Dude, 10,000 volts was a train wreck. Its pretty obvious they didn't spend much time rehearsing it. Shit they didn't even know how to end it. Not every song needs a crescendo ending.
What a load of crap. He gets worse every show he plays.
Paul was right, Ace don't like to rehearse anything.
It does not take a genius to see Ace never picks up a guitar when he is off stage. He playing level is so bad i cannot even rate it.
@@These_go_to_eleven_1959 It's called mailing it in. Fans are hardcore though, so he's got that.
Ace has a kick ass band behind him and Ace is just Ace and always has been.
Wrong, he has gotten progressively worse and lazy
@@tt55899I'm going to be lazy as F if I make it to 72 years old
@giraffesareselfish9563 yeah but you're not gonna be charging people money to come see you perform
@tt55899 Yes I will, and just like with Ace they have to option to not pay.
@giraffesareselfish9563 for the first part ...yeah ok and the second part...a lot of stupid people then
Vocals and playing needs a lil polishing, but considering hes pushing 73 yrs old and killed half his brain cells in the70s i got huge respect 🙌🙌 hes a ripper for sure 👍
I seen this guy back in 1975 with KISS and had a smile on my face the entire time, now 49 years later i am practically in tears! I actually feel embarrased for him!
This is tragic in every way imaginable! This was not just a "Off night" by any means and clearly it is waaayyy past that time where you just hang it up and accept who you once were.
So happy to see this concert. Ace is Mr Rock n Roll and now I got the feelings that we had when we heard Kiss in the 70th, that real hard Rock n Roll. That amazing sound and hard style. Great band!
Man, I was there and, the guy played his ass off it was very entertaining and, he was very pleasant and polite especially to the two little girls by the stage but, his band can sing very well, Ace can still play at 72 and, he admitted that his voice wasn’t the best
Just saw him 30 miss awaz from me in anderson indiana at a legendary old old theater he was very very good a legend everyone was singing along aswell as 3 people crowd surfed (that I saw might of been more) but opening band I wasnt a fan of there music but have major respect as they were very personal throwing picks and pins making sure everyone that was within 8 rows got them and they shook and highfived everyone but ace was 10 times better then I was imagining he worked hard and I dont think he deserves the hate everyone has given him recently and I didnt know he was playing every night he played your show and played here in anderson indiana a daz after to 1200 people
@@ralfcoykendall1063 word salad LMFAO
Dude with the blue Firebird is going "look at how many of these grandmas want me!!!"
@@JokersWild70 🤣😂🤣😂
@@ralfcoykendall1063 HUH? Not quite sure what you're saying.
If you harness the energy of Ace's vocals you can toast a piece of bread. Very lightly.
Love that
He sang that last line of Rocket Ride pretty good 😆
HAHAHA that was brilliant! 👍
Let's see you perform at his age. 72 years old! What do you think?
@@steviesteve8462 72 or not, he’s charging people money to see this garbage. Good for him I suppose that he’s still able to tap into people’s nostalgia for the original Kiss lineup
Drummer is a beast, this band really carries him, no matter how hard he works at dragging all the songs.
I think that's Scottie Coogan. He was with Ace for a while, then Ace fired his band, and now Scottie is back with him, I think.
He also tours with Stephen Pearcy. He's an absolute machine.
the beast couldn’t hold the tempo on Rocket Ride to save his life. That was brutal.
I was in the 2nd row too , Great show , THANKS FOR POSTING🤘
Did they even rehearse 10000!?!? Omg ... its like Ace is a last minute fill in singer in a cover band and does not quite no the material. Grear studio magic by Steve Brown
Shock Me solo was fairly decent, if he keeps up on that 2024 resolution of practicing guitar more he might be a little better by the end of the year
Agreed --Shock Me solo was pretty good
Only problem is that wasn't a real resolution, his girlfriend runs his social media and she posts nonsense constantly.
I absolutely love Ace, I have since 76... But he is 10,000 times toast at this point. Hang it up and ride into the sunset brother. Legend forever!!!
Great show! Thanks for the upload.
Great show! Looking forward to the new album, the single is amazing. Super cool set list!!!
What about this show was "great" in your opinion? You can't be serious, right?
10kV was a total mess
Slow motion Ace.
Jesus I know, he needs to not play it live or not sing it. He can't play it and sing it at the same time or maybe can't sing at all.. The worst I have ever heard him.
Musically I liked it better than the studio version, hopefully Ace will get better once they play it a few times.
What a train wreck he can't be serious 😮
This whole show was a total mess. He HAS TO stop. There's no shame in getting old
Thank you brother I was up in the balcony and got a few good videos yours is much better 😂
Glad you enjoyed
@@lovegun67 I don't get the haters Ace was back with a vengeance and I was so glad to be at the first show of the tour🤘
@@lovegun67Did you record this yourself? One of the best concert recordings i've seen. Had to have been a video camera or at least a phone on a tripod. No movement whatsoever, clear sound, very good stuff. Thanks.
Thanks, man. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Ace could never really sing, but it's good to see him playing better than last year.
Absolutely agree here! He's cleaned up his performance for sure. I didn't see your post when I posted my comments above this morning. Also responded to another question about how much Ace makes per show, net worth, etc.
Absolutely. He sounds good.
yet according to Steve Brown in the WDHA radio interview he said Ace can sing very well and is very good at singing in key. He also claims no autotune was used on 10kv.
@@mikekatz7980 studio vs live has always been different, he sounds great on records.
@@gregdunn6040 I think your missing the point, but all good.
This is great!
In a world where a majority of artists are using autotune and/or prerecorded tracks and faking it, this 70+ year old player is still kicking ass raw and live.
A few rough edges? He could tighten it up a bit. Whatever. Sounds great to me. Especially for an audience recording. (This isn't a "soundboard" folks.)
Would love to have been there.
Rock on, Ace! Can't wait for the new record!
Keep supporting KRAP
Agree
IMPORTANT - Let's get something crystal clear. I gave ACE a hard time on TH-cam over the years. I wish he would have kept his sh!t together and created more music with Kiss. But at the end of the day, this man is my guitar hero. There is no KISS without ACE. Hope to see him on tour soon.
Waste of money
@@whataboutrob442 The more I watch him live, the more I realize the train has past!
@@rioriggs3568 IF you watched this performance of ACE and are honest with yourself you would have no choice but to know that for a absolute
fact! The train not only past but it no longer even runs!
I think the train hit him.. and then backed up and hit him again.
This is what
Drunk AND Desperate For Money
looks and sounds like.
At least it only lasted 45 minuets to give the poeple that were there a chance to go see a show somewhere else.
Yeah I bet they were lined up around the corner to see The Tommy Thayer Band.
@@giraffesareselfish9563rather see him than this shitshow. Quit living in the past and wake up. This guy is COOKED
Better than I expected. Can't wait to see him live
Wuauuuu really low expectations then, because that was a shame
Wow...that sounded like what I would hear from some local band at a county fair....100,000 Volts is a great studio song, sounded like total garbage live...that should tell you something.
Yeah there is no way that is Ace playing on the studio version, gotta be a session guitarist, and the vocals on the studio version are heavily altered.
tells me auto tune was used and Steve Brown played lead
@@rodbelding9523No, I'm sure he's playing on it, but it was probably heavily cut and edited. The solo was probably about 5 solos that had the best bits comped into 1. I've worked with Pro Tools, and it's amazing what you can do
The studio can make anyone sound good,live is where the frauds are exposed.
It’s over. It seems nobody in the band enjoy it anymore.
Is it me or am I imagining things? The way Ace came out almost reminded me of a little kid interrupting his nap time. He basically has a bored look on him. You would think a performer who has a pretty good following and a well known name and background to boot would be more excited.
I'm just hoping he not using anything the enhance that ;boredom if you know what I mean?
Probably needs the dollars 💸 💵 💲
@@maria-lena5919 IF he needed money he could sell one of his many vintage guitars. He owns a 59 Les Paul valued at over $500K!!!
I've been a HUGE fan of Kiss and Ace since 1976. This is sad.....😪
Agree 👍 🙆♂️
SAD? NO more like TRAGIC and Pathetic!
I'd pay a couple hundred bucks to play my backyard party.
50 bucks tops.
Found out about the show way too late and couldn't get tix. And only live about 20 miles from the venue. Def appreciate this posting. Yeah it's sloppy and we've all seen better, but gotta love Ace. All in all not too bad anyway.
And people wonder why he wasn't on the last dates of the end of the road tour...ha ha Tommy Thayer for the win !!!
One thing i think we can all agree on about Ace: hes probably not holed up in his studio practicing. Anyone want to guess how much hes making per show? I don't have any idea
Hey! According to his management group, his booking fee in 2023/2024 is between $25K-39K. That's simply the fee to book a show where Ace would be the headlining act. My source is CTI (Celebrity Talent Int'l) and they're pretty accurate with their numbers. They also do not negotiate for acts who pledge their profits from a show to charity - as CTI requires a payor contract so they get paid comp per performance.
As for what he actually makes per show, those estimates appear to vary greatly. Some sources estimate Frehley earns between $150K-$300K per show. I'm 99.95% sure that's fairly inaccurate. The venues he's booked the last 5-10 years do not support the size crowds to support those figures. Other sources who also debunk the above numbers argue it's more in the $50-$75K range per show. This seems a bit more in line with the industry and his status to draw crowds. Depending on the source, his total net worth sits at between $12-$15 Million. The above per show figures may not include additional income from album sales, royalties, and merchandise associated with KISS and his solo projects.
PS- Knowing he has a fairly small, but experienced, road crew and of course he has to pay his band.. my personally opinion is he's making somewhere between $75K-$125K per show - all in. He pays his crew and band, pays the cut to the promoter (based on door draw) and venue expenses. Plus travel, food, hotel, etc.. which can be a business write off at year-end for tax purposes. I think my number is ok and solid - but still probably just my best guess with my past network experience covering production over the years.
@rdgSWwot I'd be surprised if it's that much. Im thinking more like 25K if its a flat fee, or MAYBE a 60/40 split with Ace getting the 60 and the venue getting the 40. I looked up the capacity of this venue, and it's 428. Either he's making way less, or the ticket prices would have to be astronomical for the promoters to make money. I don't think his net worth is over a million. He owes the IRS 200K and can't pay.
@@JokersWild70 I agree it’s nothing like they report. And he does owe the IRS.. they’re holding his passport thus no European shows yet. I’d add that your net worth applies across your income holdings. So it could be over $1M or even $12M but that doesn’t necessarily mean you have that as disposable income or even profit. Knowing him, he’s blown through most of it. He’s basically a working musician now.
Do you know how much money Gene and Paul milked from their "Fans" for crap since the original KISS broke up?
@@JokersWild70 Fk the IRS,,,,,,they are owned by England and their building has been CLOSED since 2019,,,,,,,Trump fkd them Up and he is just starting
Ace Frehley, virtuoso e excelente guitarrista da cena rock é célula ou chama eterna e viva do Kiss. Graças a Deus! Saúde,; proteção, força, criatividade, disposição e vida longa para ele. Bote mais energia aí Frehley, vc pode e deve, é com0etente e capaz.
VIDA LONGA AO KIßS E ACE, JUNTOS OU SEPARADOS! BPF! 😜🤟
I love that he just tosses out picks alot it's so cool to catch a pick from your favorite band it seems kiss was the first to toss alot of custome picks
Even if I give Ace a hard Time in some comments on TH-cam I don't want him to stop cause now that KISS has retired I am wanting to see him live even more. By the way 10 000 Volts kicks major Ass. No bad songs. Pure Rock'n'roll
I love Ace but this is getting ridiculous with everyone saying he's been off the road or his voice wasn't good that night. It's called Practice. Does he not have any band rehearsal before going out to play these dates? If he does, then it truly is over.
I'm sure the band rehearses but Ace is above that,he a rock god lol
Guitar wise, this is the best I've heard Ace play in a while, based off videos I've seen. Well done Space Man
Saw him last July, it was awful nothing like this video.
That Firebird looks so cool. And Ace is still rocking.
Not understanding why the songs sound slow and sluggish.
The timing is horribly inaccurate - did the drummer even listen to the source material? Maybe it's the drum triggers?
The guitarists keep looking at the drummer who's literally staring off playing whatever he wants. Not that it could really help the cringe guitar player standing in front of Ace mouthing the words to the songs.
As a drummer, I can tell you: the drummer is playing quarter notes on his high hat on almost every song. Peter Criss almost always played 8th notes on the high hat, and slightly ahead of the beat, which gives the songs a bit of urgency. That's exactly why most of them are dragging. If you listen to the studio version of "Shock Me," the tempo is just about the same as it is here
@@JokersWild70 peter criss rules
Opening with Shock Me then right into Rocket Ride? FIRE!!!
This is from his website.."..For the first time in nearly 20 years, the legendary guitarist has concocted an explosive new solo effort. Flaunting fiery riffs, pristine production and jaw-dropping craftsmanship.."
But to watch that live..free entrance..free beer..my guitar hero when i was 9/10 yr old....he doesnt look like he is having any fun😞
I'm in Lexington!? How'd I not know this!?!?!?!
His previous tours were fine.. this gig!!! 😮Ace obviously is pissed or high or both!!! 17 years sober?????? His ex mate on TH-cam said if you believe that then 😂😂😂😂😂😂 he’s drinking unfortunately he will be lucky to see the end of the tour out at this rate!
Ace is surrounded by total "yes men." Nobody has the balls to tell him, "Hey Ace, maybe you should practice a bit before embarking on a tour, taking people's hard-earned money yet sounding like you haven't picked up a guitar in 30 years." I don't understand how his band can hold a straight face after this embarrassment.
On point
I'm a fan but damn! Maybe he got stoned before he went on .
If you did coke and pills for 25 years your brain would be a little slow too
@@bobbymartin7455 no excuse, if he can't keep up don't take peoples money and stop boasting about how good you are daily on social media!
@@bobbymartin7455 doesn’t mean he can’t practice guitar
It's not what I expected. But Ace gave "HIS" best. And he loves KISS❤.
No matter what he says, he honors Paul by performing his "Detroit Rock City" and the Paul/Gene anthem "Rock and Roll All Nite". Ace still wants to be forever KISS. Good guy. But more dead than ALIVE!
Always nice to see Ace.
Nice to see him,horrible to hear him.
Oh man. If I didn't love Ace as much as I do, I would totally pan his performance this night. That said, he is still Ace Frehley, and the spectacle of it is as such.
The feedback and Ace hitting the E flat chord instead of the D is just awful. Get it together man
He clearly only picks up a guitar when there's a paycheck involved.
Why are the house lights on the whole show? Looks like a high school talent show. Lighting guy fell sleep.
cause he’s old and probably can’t see that great
My God please stop.
Ace isn’t even playing the main riff on 10,000 volts , he probably doesn’t play it on the recording?
agree, he doubt if he even wrote it at all. AI probably sung it.
@@jimbo0411it's a Steve Brown record with electric and space references peppered in.
The other guitarist is playing some of the solos too, its sad
That was like watching Hendrix on the guitar. ACE only gets better 😎😍
did we watch the same Ace? LMFAO
@@raaawkstaaar I must get a huge bag of whatever he's smokin 😂😂😂
Erm a big fat no
Huh?
I love Ace, but let’s not delude ourselves, this sucks.
Chocking BEST! Pure Rock n Roll.
Great footage!
He was lost often, especially detroit rock city. Had to call out solo in rock n roll all night, to cue himself in. Lost in that song as well. Wow
when the first verse kicks in at the beginning of the song he looks so lost and then tries to slide his finger up to the right front fret
It's his brain, not working even at a 10% any longer, Paul lost his voice but could still deliver a show (although lypsyncing) and Gene will show why not being an addict is the right way of living this year with his solo shows
for god sake hang it up! i keep opening these thinking it cant get worse. how can you screw up communication break down and how many more times. been playing rock n roll all night for forty years and cant remember it. i love ace but there's no defending this its beyond terrible. watch the band they're. trying to cover the best they can. the solo sounded like a bad day at guitar center. if you think he can still play find a guitar teacher who s never heard of kiss and play this for him. hell tell you the truth. hes a legendary guitarist that had great stage presence and his leads were great 25 years ago. he cant play or sing anymore make all the excuses you want this is proof
Brutally bad.
thank you. i click on it. good video. great sound and close. i make hundreds of kiss videos to bro and i got tons of front row ace shows with kulick on stage and singer with ace. and him with frehleys comet at indy expo when they reunited on stage. peace. thanks for the upload
I'm glad you liked it.
@@lovegun67 you should see the versions i have with him bruce kulick on stage with eric singer. then frehleys comet gets on stage for the first time in decades and they do all the frehleys comet songs. it was kiss indy expo. my kiss indy expo 2018 mountainous rockumentary is 50 minutes long. i show the meet and greet. merch. my boots get signed. you see both nights of ace shows with ace on stage with different guys and a few songs later a few others get on there with ace.
@MOUNTAINOUS
Do you have the links please ?
🤘
I love Ace him and gene are my favorites and paul
God he's even worse than he was this past summer! Didn't think it could be possible?!?!?!
Rocket ride is awful. He doesn't care. I'd rather watch Ritchie play and sing all the songs
I was there too at the Grand Theater last night. It's been about 45 years since I was really a KISS fan, but it was a great show and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Really impressive that he can still rock so hard at 72. The awesome backing band--especially that incredible drummer--also added a lot.
Poor Ace. Having to play in a place like Frankfort and people expect a noteworthy performance 😂
Where was this filmed, in a high school auditorium?
One other comment I want to make about this is that if this video was not chopped up and only certain songs were played I am disappointed.This is Ace's concert not kiss. Ace is playing nothing but a lot of kiss songs instead of his songs and if that's all ace is doing is promoting old kiss music instead of his new album there's no way I want to put any money towards seeing him I really just want to see him and him playing his music maybe dabble in just a little of the past but just him singing lead on the songs that he sang while with kiss.
Ace was so lost in 10,000 volts did he even play on that single?
Of course not,he didn't play on most of the Kiss material either,you just saw why.This is a rock star not a musician.
@@gregjohnson298So the rhythm guitars in the 70s on the tracks of Paul, Demon and Peter were played by Stanley alone? Considering that their live shows in the 70s sounded decent, is it strange, because Ace's guitar sounded louder than Paul's guitar in the live shows?
Oh boy the singing 🥵🫢🫣
you mean the talking. Ace never sang lyrics, he just speaks them.
Yeah the singing is really bad, It is almost as horrible as his guitar playing! I know kids that have been playing 2 months that can play better.
At the end of "Back in the New York Groove", it would have been cool if they launched into "Baba O
Reilly" by The Who since it has the same chord progression.
Ewwww.....if you say so. I have always found it a turn off when I am listening to an artist I like and they suddenly reference another artists song like that. Ends up sounding like a Vegas oldies revue. Lol.
Do a cover of the whole song, or just don't bother.
That's only me. To each their own.
@@garyhill2740 it is an oldies review. Just about every song is more than 40 years old. One is from 2023 and one is from 1987.
@garyhill2740 new york groove is already another artists song lmao
Ace wearing a shirt with Gene and Paul's face on it..
I love Ace his new album (which I am sure I am going to buy) and of course him as a person but he has to practice on playing guitar and singing at the same time. Please Ace, go rehearse a little more!
And Ace’s band just takes the money, no matter how bad the show is !!
Should they not get paid?
@@giraffesareselfish9563 obviously they should, money is more important than self respect !
@@IanConnaghandon't blame the band for Ace's performance.
That “guitar solo” … I don’t want to remember Ace like this. I think I’ll go put the first Frehley’s Comet album on repeat and hope it purges my memory of this atrocity
i remember ace used to be in a band good times
Not a horrible job on Shock Me. But after watching this, I can totally understand why Paul Stanley would call a reunion with Ace....'Piss'. Too many years of frying his brain.
I like Ace, spaceinvader is my favorite album that he has done. Kiss was all about the show and the spectacle thats why they became so big but this is such a low butget show with that wrinkled shower curtain in the backgrund. Maybe if he had a screen with different images instead and a better light show might help it. Wonder if there was anyone there under 40.
Yes there was Quite a few younger people there under forty and under thirty. The show was sold out.
Glad to hear that. Went to see Robert Plant with Alisson Crauss last summer and I swear that crowd was ancient, there were people there with walkers. Nothing against that but it just goes to show the generation gap.
this guy is too fkn cool!!!!! Awesome vid, thanku!
Ace is always cool. Thanks.
@@lovegun67the coolest to ever do it.
This is awesome
Aces voice is in a constant state of slur.i wish it wasn't the case but his timing and effort are really poor.
Ok, I have to ask........who did the vocals on 10,000 volts?
Maybe they got ace the speak the lyrics and then they autotuned the hell out of it
Auto Tune
Is he ok ?
You spell the way he sings. Are you OK?
@@giraffesareselfish9563 Haha ! You got me !! Good catch !! I love good humour ! 🙃
@lousekoya1803 glad you have a sense of humor my friend. I owe you a beer.
@@giraffesareselfish9563 Any time ! Let me know if you ever come near Montreal ! 😉
Por siempre ACE...!!!!
Tax man show it pays to pay your taxes or get caught
Ace, go home and behave yourself.. its waay past ur bedtime ffs 😂😂😂
Ace ... crank your guitar ... great solo on Shock me ... and I love your shirts
Cool clips 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Bota esse batera para aumentar um pouco a velocidade, Ace que se vire, ele dá seu jeito, tem competência para isso, e solte esa voz também, my brother. Jogue duro!
HE HAS BEEN OFF THE ROAD FOR A WHILE and he is 72 folks
he's been off the road for a few weeks LMFAO He just played a gig in Vegas in Dec and before that a summer tour that wrapped up in Aug/Sept and he's been working on an album! Quit making excuses for him, Keith Richards is nearly a decade older and done more drugs than Ace and plays flawlessly! This is due to Ace just doesn't give a F*CK!
50 years of performing, drugs, alcohol and being CONSTANTLY shit on by Gene and Paul, has taken its toll. I still dig him though. Ace made KISS. And Gene and Paul should be kissing his ass. Ace has put out album after album over the years, and KISS has been constantly "retiring" like old whores. I've always loved Ace, but I wouldn't go see this show, sadly. Also $1,000.00 to sign my Gibson Les Paul is a Gene Simmons move. Even the "cheap" package of $500.00 is ridiculous. But hey, get it if you can Ace. This show is 100% Ace. Not singing into the mic about 60% of the time, semi-killer on the guitar, sounding like it's the 3rd time ever that they've all played it together. Thank you Neal for posting this. Saved me about $2,000 in travel, (flight, hotel), tickets, VIP signing, etc.
Why is it every time I see vids of his concerts he doesn't even have a light show? That's part of rock and roll mang and what makes a good show imo. Hell, even no name bands have a LITTLE lighting.
Watch Ace live from about 2008-2012 instead.. Thats fucking fantastic. Can really recommend ”Ace Fehley live in Erie PA 2012” here on TH-cam. Looking forward to the new album. But really, nowadays maybe he SHOULD do some coke before the shows …?
What a shame, sad for the people who paid for that sh.1t show, can you imagine Tommy playing that setlist, i know i know he isn't the original but he will do it like a champ, not missing a note and singing as someone with the entire brain still functional
I was third row and it was awesome
He's really skilled at throwing guitar picks...that's about it.
..if you don't like ace's playing or singing you do it your self instead then.. :)
not much of a challenge there to sound better than that.. 😅 worst i have ever heard him on 10K volts
@@jimbo0411since it was the first time he ever played 10,000 Volts, what are you comparing it to? Or are you saying it's the worst you've ever heard him period?
@@jimbo0411 ..how sad for you then.. :)
Rehearsel gig?
_Weekend At Frehley’s_
Rock and Roll All Nite foi um desastre. 😂 Com certeza não ensaiaram antes! 🤦🏾♂️
Only thing missing is Ritchie Scarlet. Can’t take your money to the next life, Only Love crosses to the next life. . Get Ritchie up there running around the stage. Triple guitar threat and Ritchie deserves it.
Richie is too talented for this lot, he's probably glad NOT to be a part of it! A sideman shouldn't have to carry the show for the main attraction! Ace should just retire no amount of guitars is going to fix him!
ACE FREHLEY IS A ROCK SOLDIER !!! 50 YEARS OF AWESOME SMOKIN GUITAR MUSIC !!!
Not good
Can't stand it can you that a 72 year old man is doing something you only wish you could do.
@@JamesK-i9e I don't think anyone is wishing to be tone deaf and embarrass one self night after night
@@JamesK-i9eDon't show your ignorance. There are PLENTY of rockers that are in their 70's, that are still brilliant. Tommy Shaw (Styx), Glen Hughes, Paul Rodgers (Bad Co), Alice Cooper, Joe Lynn Turner, Derek St. Holmes (Ted Nugent band) Roger Daltry, Jack Blades, John Waite, Sammy Hagar, Tom Johnston.(Doobie Brothers) and a ton more!!!! These guys also "PREPARE" before they go out and perform.
This was awful! When Ace did sing, he sounded deeper and sang into the mic 30-50% of the time. He couldn't replicate anywhere near the good studio sound of 10,000 volts. An absolute train wreck. And a sad way to represent a song that has so much buzz. Very unfortunate!! Especially after ALL the hype and praise we've been hearing on Ace's upcoming album.
The only "something" that Ace is doing here is embarrassing himself. And you probably realize that too!!
Painful to watch...