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  • @E-jit
    @E-jit หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I’m glad she said that we never went fully socialist and that we aren’t really socialist. I’m Swedish and I’m so tired of hearing about “the Nordic model” being socialist.

    • @alimantado373
      @alimantado373 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only one country sees the Scandinavian Model as Communist!
      The rest look upon it as how people should actually live in a democratic society. If they 'Governments' had the will to do it!
      Theres no excuses left anymore in 21st century

    • @AP-RSI
      @AP-RSI หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In Germany we don't say socialist, but social-democratic!

    • @E-jit
      @E-jit หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @ Same here in Sweden and it annoys me when it gets conflated with socialism.

    • @somemonkeystirnerite
      @somemonkeystirnerite 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s true that our countries aren’t socialist but a lot of the labor unions in ours countries are very radical and socialist. The socialist element has not ever left the heart of our labor parties(I live in Norway) and I am glad that it never did. I believe that we should still strive for a transition from a social democracy to a democratic socialist society as is still laid out in the parties “manifesto”.

    • @E-jit
      @E-jit 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ yes, there certainly are elements of it and parties that are more towards socialist.

  • @marcometachternaam6150
    @marcometachternaam6150 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    If your elections are a circus, don't be mad if the clown wins.. 😇

    • @module79l28
      @module79l28 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The problem is that no one is laughing at his jokes.

    • @KateV-v4m
      @KateV-v4m 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well Said!

  • @Josef-pr5bz
    @Josef-pr5bz หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I think that most Americans need to learn the difference between social and socialist. Because being social in thought and action has nothing to do with political socialism. That's what guys like Trump are trying to convince you of.

  • @pawel115
    @pawel115 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am 50 years old and I have always lived in a countries(Canada and Poland) with universal health care i can't even imagine what is like to live without it.

  • @MoodyMarco-vj3oe
    @MoodyMarco-vj3oe หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The US isn't the most diverse country in the world by a long shot.

  • @ekolekol4389
    @ekolekol4389 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Anti-immigration is a symptom of the move to the right, not the cause - that's increased inequality, lack of affordable housing and poor work-life balance.

    • @gerardflynn7382
      @gerardflynn7382 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or in the case of the US
      No work life balance.

    • @alimantado373
      @alimantado373 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gerardflynn7382 Like Work life balance actually exists in America.
      How many months do you get off for , a birth of a child, where are your workers rights, where are your workers unions, not connected to some kind of organised crime. Where are your paid holidays for sickness? Where is your medical cover ocnsidering there is no universal Healthcare?.

    • @Be-Es---___
      @Be-Es---___ หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@alimantado373
      Being sick has nothing to do with holidays.
      Having a day off is not meant to be sick.
      If you don't understand, you're hopeless.
      If I'm sick on holiday I'll get my days back, because it wasn't a holiday.

  • @arnodobler1096
    @arnodobler1096 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The isolated and unique political languages in the USA proves how much US education is propaganda!

  • @alexfoster307
    @alexfoster307 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The US in 5 years,:
    911 operator: 911 what's your emergency?
    Victim: my house is on fire and my children are stuck inside.
    911 operator: do you have fire service insurance?
    Victim: no.
    911 operator: oooh, soz about that!!!

  • @HandleMeUp
    @HandleMeUp หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A shout out to my compatriot Khelifi ❤🇨🇵 it was a wild night. I hope you guys don't despair. Regroup and keep fighting the good fight 💙

    • @HandleMeUp
      @HandleMeUp หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Side note; "The USA could not choose the left: there was none. When there is no more left, there is no limit to the right. When there is no policy battle, the election becomes a casting call. Trump's victory is the unstoppable consequence of this situation. The world will rise in tension. Stay cautious and determined." - Jean-Luc Mélenchon Former Member of the European Parliament (French left-wing)

  • @peterdubois65
    @peterdubois65 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    How much of the problems at your southern border are due to US foreign policy making sure that no social democratic governments could ever succeed in Central and southern America?

    • @gerardflynn7382
      @gerardflynn7382 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or the US for that matter.

    • @alimantado373
      @alimantado373 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Trump blocked his own law in the senate on border control to fight this election. Actually blocked Democrats from passing their own law! 😂

  • @JohnHollands
    @JohnHollands หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What we do here in Australia is we take whatever seems good no matter if it's from a socialist country or capitalist country or even America AND WE MAKE IT AUSTRALIAN.
    There are and have been "socialist" things in the US but, because that's how things are, they are not recognised by citizens.
    Taxpayer dollars going to help citizens? No way, that's bad. Taxpayer dollars going to the giant military complex? That's good.
    BTW that's FEDERAL dollars, State taxpayer dollars go everywhere in the States. All sorts of things.There's no continuity or commonality. School lunches, school buses, provided by the State, that's socialism.
    The Federal Govt is terrified to act. No public holidays at Christmas? Why? Because Christmas is just one religion and the Govt can't possibly support a preference. Same with employment - individual businesses must be free to do what they want, which is usually nothing. In other countries the government passes laws telling employers what they must do. Not so 'free' but of greater benefit.
    Why is the drinking age 21 across all States? Because Ronnie Reagan heard kids were being killed by drunk drivers and he forced the States to adopt the 21 age limit. Socialist intervention?
    Americans are proud of their national highway system. How did it come about? Because a President during the depression spent federal dollars on employing lots of people to build a road network; planned by the Federal Government, paid for by the Feds, owned by the Feds. Socialism in action for sure. But the result was good, yes?
    And it's selective in American's minds: the Military, no cost if used (like in disasters), the police, no charge to attend crime scene. Fire, no charge to put out fires. All these look a bit like socialism. Paid for by the state out of taxes for the benefit of all citizens.
    Now, emergency medical attention: free but transport by ambulance, not free. Huh? (and expensive, shouldn't it cost about the same as an Uber or taxi? Or even double?)
    In America, FREE doesn't mean free from worry. Food manufacturers are 'free' to put whatever they like in food and most States have no laws regarding labelling. Government steps in only when enough people are injured or die. Even then, reluctantly.
    In effect, the American Federal system of government is anarchy. Do what you like.
    In the words of Donald J Trump: sad.

    • @gerardflynn7382
      @gerardflynn7382 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ronnie Reagan wasn't in politics during the 1920's prohibition era.

  • @KarstenNygaard-d8c
    @KarstenNygaard-d8c หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm a Dane. We have had our flag since the year 1219 and been united
    even longer! Other European cultures are ancient. There's nothing the
    U.S.A. can teach Europeans that we haven't been through 😮
    Sad part is that you're looked upon just like a parent upon a rogue
    teenager.................

    • @whymeeveryone
      @whymeeveryone 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I understand, however Australia is even younger then USA and yet we are far better then USA for a long shot.

  • @stephanedaguet915
    @stephanedaguet915 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    In France, all the social laws that we have, we owe to the Communist Party even though it has never been in power there, only through workers' struggles.

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Anarcho-syndicalist-socialism ;-)

  • @lipgloss202
    @lipgloss202 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I often hear americans say things about their country as fact when it is simply not true. Like "we are the most diverse country in the world, right." ( 2:27 )
    The U.S. is not even in the top ten when it comes to diversity. Last time I checked the U.S. was at place 68 in the world when it comes to diversity.

  • @baramuth71
    @baramuth71 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Americans don't know the difference between socialist and social. It's all socialist. Only that is a form of government where people have no or few freedoms. For example, the GDR as a counterpart to the Federal Republic of Germany. The GDR was a socialist/communist-run country. People were only allowed to travel to countries that also had this form, travel to the West was forbidden, people fleeing from this system were shot or imprisoned for many years under the worst conditions.
    Socially managed countries like Germany now mean something for people, but the USA is and was a long way from that.

    • @realitymatters8720
      @realitymatters8720 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The DDR was (maybe) run by Socialists/Communists, but the system was not Socialist or Communist !
      It was a "Dictatorship of the proletariat". A consept of Marx's further developed by Lenin, a system that was supposed to prepare society for a transition into Communism.
      This is not hard,,, if a system does not have democratic control over the means of production, then the system is not Socialist. All power in the DDR was in the hands of a minority, the Communist Party, so control of production, but not democratic !

  • @alexysq2660
    @alexysq2660 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Sadly, the v-a-s-t majority of citizens of the ¨United¨ States of America truly are absolutely, irrefutably, misguidedly, proudly, shamelessly, unabashedly, undeniably, THE most *willingly* ignorant of those of virtually a n y - truly civilised, developed, enlightened, evolved, forward- looking, free, progressive - country/nation in the entire world 😞.... *~*Brian✨and✨Lynda** 💖/💖

    • @gerardflynn7382
      @gerardflynn7382 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was a mouthful

    • @alimantado373
      @alimantado373 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brainwashed and Gaslighted, thats all hue of people from White to Latino's.

  • @tommyjohansson6326
    @tommyjohansson6326 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It`s so rude that u in USA just have to vote at 2 diffrent person , Hugs from Sweden.

  • @winterlinde5395
    @winterlinde5395 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t think the „they are both bad“- argument helps.
    Edit: no, Germany‘s statutory health insurance is staying where it is. 😊

  • @eanjamesmogg9488
    @eanjamesmogg9488 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Political System in the US is really about 150 years behind Europe, where we have multiple parties minimum election funds and proportional representation which Italy has and maybe one or two nations have, and the money gets advertising in your country whether right or wrong, most in Europe is to aid the less off and includes taxes the more money you have and US calls that Socialism and portrait it as a boogman when in reality it's nothing like true Socialism as it's just a dream and doesn't exist in the modern world and Communism doesn't exist only DICTATORS who act like they were voted in by the free peoples lolol
    Anyway the whole thing can be sorted out by another Party a strict allowance that parties use and month before the elections you can start electoral advertising, sigh but you got another 100 years to go to catch up to Europe, sigh till then everyone is trained to be a low skilled worker in a fast food joint,
    Hint did you know your Taxes can be worked out by the IRS but they don't as tax advisers lobby the government, lol

  • @gazlator
    @gazlator หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like a very fair analysis in the video (the one reacted to) of the key factors as to why a clearer kind of liberal socialism hasn't emerged in the US.

  • @whymeeveryone
    @whymeeveryone 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the problem with USA is one thing and that is greed. Many thing could done yet because money talks those thing will never get done.

  • @adamclark6756
    @adamclark6756 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Elon Musk became $20 BILLION richer overnight, that tells you all you need to know about who will benefit from this result. Hang in there though, the fight will continue.

    • @yasminesteinbauer8565
      @yasminesteinbauer8565 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      However, it is not real money (like the majority of his assets). It is purely virtual based on psychology. His wealth could just as easily be halved tomorrow.

    • @vladimirofsvalbard9477
      @vladimirofsvalbard9477 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Easily applicable to anybody in politics; let's not act like this is some unique situation.
      Do you have the same feelings about Beyonce?

  • @keiron75
    @keiron75 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am Austrian, we have 9,118,273 citizens. I totaly share your values and opions but also europe is at their limits with migration to provide them a better live. Here some statistics from austria.
    1991 - 2001: 382.700 people came here to live because of the jugoslavien war
    2011 : 265.000 people came here to live because of the syrian war
    2022 : 87.570 people came here to live because of the ukrainan war till now
    I am not mention the minor crisis but there a some.
    I am OK to help this people in need but we all feel the consts in our living and this splitts our socity as well.

  • @koffekoffe7264
    @koffekoffe7264 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hear alot of Americans seem to think US is so much bigger than Europe but that is not really true, : Europe is 3.9 million square miles VS US 3.7 million square miles.

  • @notserious9990
    @notserious9990 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you would have to trust your goverments if you wanna move towards the european way. i think most Americans will have a problem with that since its the most "freedom" loving country of them all :D

  • @55tranquility
    @55tranquility หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have many frustrating conversations with 'woke' Americans who struggle to grasp the nuances between public ownership, social democracy, mixed economies, and socialism- alongside democratic socialism, social democracy, state socialism, revolutionary socialism - and of course Communism. There is a huge sliding scale and they seem to think there is only neoliberal rampant capitalism which is familiar in the US and socialism/communism of they old Soviet type. Frustrating to be lectured to on socialis by a person where universal social healthcare is seen as radical socialism where everywhere else in the world its regarded as social healthcare within a freemarket economy. Also most forms of actual 'socialsim' in Europe were or are extremely anti-Communist and anti Soviet for obvious reasons.
    The US had a strong trade union movement up until the 1980s, the new deal was an example of socialism within a capitalist economy and social security is a socialist principle - none of these mean socialism they are simply elements of social policy in a freemarket economy.

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Europe having many more parties illustrate more alternatives.

  • @micade2518
    @micade2518 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think we should call 5th November "International Mourning Day" ...

  • @kristerhegsund5752
    @kristerhegsund5752 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "Fascism will come to USA wrapped in the US flag and carrying a cross." 100 years ago.

    • @Be-Es---___
      @Be-Es---___ หลายเดือนก่อน

      Remember the Weimar Republic!

  • @danmayberry1185
    @danmayberry1185 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🇨🇦 We'll leave the screen door open for you guys (for two more months).

  • @daviel6595
    @daviel6595 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Religious haha

  • @JacobBax
    @JacobBax หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that lady Emma, from Majority Report?

  • @i-klaus
    @i-klaus หลายเดือนก่อน

    My sincere condolences on your election result!
    In 2016, Benie Sanders simply didn't have enough money/influence.
    All of you, educate yourself on the difference between a socialist and a communist. Then we can talk further.
    Then you (all of you) learn what democracy means exactly.
    As a population, you can then form a social democracy.
    Most European countries function like this. It's not that bad.

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bernie sold out. Totally bourgeois.

  • @ChrisTaylor-dz6nk
    @ChrisTaylor-dz6nk หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its not socialist.in Europa. Wrong .

  • @kevingrant7098
    @kevingrant7098 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m devastated Trump one again we have seen the rise of the far right across Europe and now America has done the same 🇬🇧🇪🇺🇺🇸

    • @gerardflynn7382
      @gerardflynn7382 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The rise of the far right in Europe was 79yrs ago.
      Please try to keep up to date.

    • @alimantado373
      @alimantado373 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope! European populous was sensible enough to curb the rise of Fascism / populism. UK, France, Italy etc.
      In the rest of the World the powers that be, realise that they are servants of the people. Not dictators!
      If America were occupied somehow in history, they would understand. But they never have been.

    • @vladimirofsvalbard9477
      @vladimirofsvalbard9477 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Define Far Right?
      By the current standards, Barack Obama would be extremely far right by his Presidential record. I think media algorithms are the bigger issue. It's why people are so hysterical about politics; it's not real lol

    • @alimantado373
      @alimantado373 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vladimirofsvalbard9477 This is populism , disguised as far Right.
      Desperation to have power to rob taxpayers blind and sya 'Trickle Down Economics'. Its old, its Reaganomics for those who remember. And it doesnt work!

    • @somemonkeystirnerite
      @somemonkeystirnerite 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vladimirofsvalbard9477Far right= authoritarianism, Demonization of an out group, cult of personality, heroism, militarism, anything else umberto eco lists in his “ur-fascism”.

  • @geeemm135
    @geeemm135 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i still got a super smoothie of emotions.. i'm somewhat mad, sad, disappointed and surprised how people can really vote for trump who praised hitlers generals, claims democrates to be the enemy from within, wanting to shut down/silence his critics and his list of lies is basically infinite. and those suckups who are blindly following him are not aware that this is actually the first step of transforming into a dictatorship. for anyone whos not educated on how hitler gained his power, do your research on the internet. but its not too surprising that he was a great talker too who could catch the audience and push the right buttons to make people follow him.
    i am really really afraid of what might happen to the world within the next 4 years - specially in the ukraine/russia conflict

    • @RobertJames-fe2pd
      @RobertJames-fe2pd หลายเดือนก่อน

      My only hope is that Trump makes such a mess that they finally see him as the rest of the world do.

  • @cygnusx-3217
    @cygnusx-3217 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Russian Revolution of October 1917, which brought to power the first and only workers government in human history, helped bring an end to WW1. The imperialist powers were terrified that the Revolution led by Lenin and Trotsky would spread to their countries and overthrow their capitalist governments. In the US, in 1920, socialist Eugene Debs won a million votes running for president from a prison cell. He was part of a socialist revolution taking place worldwide. Workers today must reignite a global socialist revolution. You guys are doing a good job. Keep reading and learning!

  • @sydneywellington_cazadora
    @sydneywellington_cazadora หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this channel. Today I feel the need to respond to the US habit of labelling everything, and quite wrongly. It is a huge mistake to consider the entire vote for Trump to be for racist reasons. In fact, it is not only white people who voted for him. The reasons for his victory are complex, and from my perspective, obvious. The most powerful: a large part of the vote is a penalty for Democratic politics, not a reward for Trump. This includes the fact that the vice-President Kamala Harris has been kept invisible for four years. If Democrats are not aware of the flaws in their politics, they will learn nothing from the overwhelming results of this election.

  • @laziojohnny79
    @laziojohnny79 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm Dutch, we have a multiple party system and it sucks as much as a two party system (although that's not what the US has, there were four parties running this elections, one withdrew later on and supported Trump, namely Kenedy, the Green Party being the fourth). In a multiple party system you will always get a coalition which makes that no party can get what they really want and thus real change never happens, then again it does help keeping extremists on both sides out your government. But if you guys are so pro-socialism (which it seems you are) then I have quite some relatives from and in Cuba you guys should have a chat with...
    PS being or acting in a social manner (like social health care) is not the same as socialism. I'm a conservative on many issues and progressive on a few others, but I (and no one in the Netherlands on both sides of the spectrum) would want to get rid of our social security system or the national health care system. It's not even a point of debate no matter how conservative people might be, we all agree those systems should remain.

  • @FalcoSorreo
    @FalcoSorreo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    10:38 It's easy, most of them are economic migrants. There are very few actual refugees (people fleeing war). Most people just go to europe ilegally because their own countries have more corrupt and incompetent governments and life there is worse. It is that simple. The standard of living is a lot higher in europe, and they get more opportunities, government programs to help them, NGOs giving them stuff, etc. And the politicians are letting them all in because they want workers to increase the GDP, and they don't care what the medium and long term consequences are for the natives. And of course the immigrants are taking full advantage of the situation. That is why many people are becoming increasingly right wing. As time goes on they start to experience the consequences (less jobs, increase in the housing crisis, more crime, more social instability, less money to help natives that are poor and more to help immigrants, etc), and realize their government doesn't care about them as long as they can keep extracting enough money from workers. Who the workers are is irrelevant to them.

    • @FalcoSorreo
      @FalcoSorreo หลายเดือนก่อน

      I personally know several low middle class people who have lost their jobs as workers of different types in agriculture (that they needed to feed their families), because some of the immigrant groups that came in the last few years (eastern europeans in this case) work longer hours, and worse hours, for less money. They don't care about being exploited because in the country they came from the conditions are even worse for workers (which is why they came). The native workers are getting fired, or just not called to work anymore because they want their bosses tor respect their rights. A lot of people are starting to feel that they are losing the workers rights their ancestors had to fought literal decades long revolutions against the government to achieve, because the government can just continue importing cheap foreign labor with much lower standards.
      And on top of that many immigrant groups don't even want to integrate. Some do, but many just want to adapt the country to their own standards, their own culture, language and religion, instead of changing themselves to better fit their country that took them in. They show no respect or gratitude towards the natives and their culture, even though they are talking their money and accepting their hospitality. And the bigger the number of immigrants, the least respect they feel they need to show. You can probably see at this point why people are gradually starting to become more right wing.

  • @Oropher420
    @Oropher420 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank God Trump Won