Good possibility that the model they scanned that face? The rights for that expired. You'll notice Jo's brothers also use the Shin face but with their own hairstyles. Just wish they'd also given Jo a different hairstyle even though his face is the same as Shin's.
@@MugdhaMahdiShamsAll Amons are original characters, Jo kept the same design since 1 and Kazyua, Jiro and Saigo since 4, which they also made them look younger in IW to match Shin reuse for Jo. Really weird shit
After all those Yakuza entries in the series here is the real tragedy: Amon's Coat: "I'm still not animated... Where are the wind and my jigglebones..."
What I think is mindblowing here isn't the fact that Jo Amon shows up in the main story, nor the fact that he uses Shin's model (for no reason too), or neither the fact that he's the one to "give" Kiryu the Dragon's Resurgence... no, the thing I think is totally mindblowing is that this particularly fight is AFTER Date tells Kiryu that he called some people to discuss about or meet Kiryu (under a fake identity of course)... so this means that, at some point, Date knew about the Amon clan's affairs with Kiryu and CALLED Jo to tell him that Kiryu is not actually dead. Date isn't just one of the men, he's The Man
I can’t believe Jo Amon shows up in the main story… He’s always been treated as the secret boss fight in the previous games, but now he ain’t so secret anymore…
Yeah I can understand why someone might not like that he's basically part of the story progression this time, but there is something about them acknowledging him as an important part of Kiryu's life that I really adore with this game. 7+ games later, almost 20 years later, he comes back to pick Kiryu up when he's at one of the lowest points in his life. Maybe if he was a non-mandatory bucket list mission, that would've been a good middle ground. Or maybe the final bucket list after you finish every other one.
Well it's understandable because Jo Amon are quite important Person for Kiryu. He face Amon multiple time and Amon always coming back for more. they slowly developed Love/Hate relationship to each others. And at the end you could tell Amon somewhat care about Kiryu's current condition and give him a neccesary push to be stronger.
Amon in this game was the strangest part Like, i'm fine with him appearing in the main story and the fight afterwards is really cool. But why they reuse shin design for Jo and expect us to not ask questions? Why his boss fight afterwards doesn't feature this Banger of Fierciest Warrior Remix? Like, it kind of drags down this interaction a bit because you keep these questions in your mind. Idk, i just think they kinda forgot to polish Amon in this game. But hey, it's funny seeing people who never did any amon fight be extremely confused by him 😂
I can imagine and 80 year old Kiryu fighting Jo (now looking a lot like So Amon from Y0), just charges at him using a rocket powered wheelchair with 4 plasma cannons attached to it. And when he reaches phase 2, the wheelchair just transforms into a huge mech with a comically larger version of Amon's Dagger
So funny thing, I was over leveling, having fun with fights, so when I fought him on the default difficulty, I actually beat him before resurgance unlocked, and man, that was the one fight that taught me how good buff items and the war god talismans were
@@devilleon7 hell yeah, nice. I do wish there was a better reward than just a cough tin and a bit of exp/money for the effort, like maybe an extra dialogue box or something, but hey, bragging rights are the next best thing, lol
Not only did they use the wrong model but also didn't make anything special if you won against him just "nope, you lost". Not to mention his dungeon fight lacks the music and it's replaced with generic dungeon boss theme. They made Amon dirty in this game. I hope they compensate with some Amon gauntlet DLC maybe.
I think of this as the true amon of the game, as the other fight doesnt even have a unique theme. So that basically means amon is ng+ unless you grind A LOT
It actually bothered me.they didnt use this theme in dungeon the proper encounter is in. Lot of lazy scuffs with amons in this game. I was hoping too much to think there would be a rrally tough amon fight in big swell. Kind of like in one of the judgement dlc being a super amon was hoping for something like that at least.
Sometimes rgg reusing stuffs ended up being good but this time it isn't i wish they let you know why he looks like this, or atleast re use this theme with the other amon battle since they use a generi theme there
This scene feels like a "Take That!" by the devs towards players who dislike the change into turn-based with party members if you look at Amon as a "purist" fan in this situation
As the name above the HP bar indicates, it's supposed to be Jo. Everyone is just as confused as to why they reused Shin's model for Jo when they've had a perfectly reusable one back from 6 or Kiwami 2.
@@GreenandGreenish nice glad your enjoying yourself, just finished new game + on legend like an hour ago and trying to finish the remaining achievements myself. Very fun game
Honestly amons always reused their faces so what i find weird is the hair more than anything tho this isn't the first time original kazuya amon from ps2 wasn't blond and had a beard
No tiger drop. I understand Kiryu is alot weaker at this point of his life. The only resemblance I see of tiger drop is in Essence of Komaki. Kinda sad this the last game without his most notorious move.
craziest part about this fight (for me) is that the fight is scripted so Jo Amon is meant to whoop your ass in less than a minute seriously, I got to hear that shiny new Amon theme for about 2 seconds before he killed me
So... I haven't bought this game yet... but; I'm kind of worried about this comments, the fight against Amon is supposed to be like a bless, something hard and a good boss fight but; this ain't the Amon I know I guess? I guess they be using the model for the Judgement it seems, but the thing that worries me the most it's, that they say it doesn't have as much flavor? (and tbh I thought the one of Gaiden was great tho... I'll be worried if they don't make this guy as tough as always)
For whatever reason, they reused Shin's model for Jo instead of his own from 6/K2. And people have just thrown out the outlandish (but honestly it could be believable) theory that Jo did actually die during Lost Paradise and his soul somehow came back to Kamurocho and just possessed Shin lol
Probably because it takes a long time to get to 99 without the legend mode dungeons, and it's not really needed. You only really need to be around level 95 for the story unless you are going for the big swell in premium since enemies can be as high as 99 in the last sector
Seeing Amon show up in the main story has to be the most surreal thing ever
I seriously had no idea this was supposed to be “Jo” Amon, I thought it was just Shin being out of character.
His name is actually JOshin amon but the name got cut a little bit......
Shin roleplaying as Jo would be not too much out of order as a thing
Best amon theme, i sure do hope it plays in the true fight haha
And it doesn't. What in the actual shit?
It's alright but nothing beats Bug's Warrior from Y6. (th-cam.com/video/FqLevBLwE2A/w-d-xo.html)
This has gotta be the weirdest Reuse Ga Gotoku moment ever
Shin Amon's model for Jo when his Yakuza 6 model is right there?
Good possibility that the model they scanned that face? The rights for that expired. You'll notice Jo's brothers also use the Shin face but with their own hairstyles. Just wish they'd also given Jo a different hairstyle even though his face is the same as Shin's.
@@MugdhaMahdiShamsAll Amons are original characters, Jo kept the same design since 1 and Kazyua, Jiro and Saigo since 4, which they also made them look younger in IW to match Shin reuse for Jo. Really weird shit
After all those Yakuza entries in the series here is the real tragedy:
Amon's Coat: "I'm still not animated... Where are the wind and my jigglebones..."
Wasn’t it animated in OG 1?
It's funny that his coat was only animated in the ps2 games
What I think is mindblowing here isn't the fact that Jo Amon shows up in the main story, nor the fact that he uses Shin's model (for no reason too), or neither the fact that he's the one to "give" Kiryu the Dragon's Resurgence...
no, the thing I think is totally mindblowing is that this particularly fight is AFTER Date tells Kiryu that he called some people to discuss about or meet Kiryu (under a fake identity of course)... so this means that, at some point, Date knew about the Amon clan's affairs with Kiryu and CALLED Jo to tell him that Kiryu is not actually dead. Date isn't just one of the men, he's The Man
I can’t believe Jo Amon shows up in the main story…
He’s always been treated as the secret boss fight in the previous games, but now he ain’t so secret anymore…
Yeah I can understand why someone might not like that he's basically part of the story progression this time, but there is something about them acknowledging him as an important part of Kiryu's life that I really adore with this game. 7+ games later, almost 20 years later, he comes back to pick Kiryu up when he's at one of the lowest points in his life. Maybe if he was a non-mandatory bucket list mission, that would've been a good middle ground. Or maybe the final bucket list after you finish every other one.
Okay so if reaching amon is caused by doing all substories does that mean all substories are cannon 100%
@@thebiggestofmen A lot of substories are definitely canon
@@devilleon7like the nancy and the onomichios substorys
Well it's understandable because Jo Amon are quite important Person for Kiryu. He face Amon multiple time and Amon always coming back for more. they slowly developed Love/Hate relationship to each others. And at the end you could tell Amon somewhat care about Kiryu's current condition and give him a neccesary push to be stronger.
I wonder what people's reaction when they encountered Amon for the first time, even though they played almost every Yakuza games?
I have my aas scared, thought I have to deal with him that early on.
I really like this Amon theme it’s such a shame it doesn’t play in the actual fight later on
Shin Amon returns after Lost Judgment event
Amon in this game was the strangest part
Like, i'm fine with him appearing in the main story and the fight afterwards is really cool.
But why they reuse shin design for Jo and expect us to not ask questions?
Why his boss fight afterwards doesn't feature this Banger of Fierciest Warrior Remix?
Like, it kind of drags down this interaction a bit because you keep these questions in your mind. Idk, i just think they kinda forgot to polish Amon in this game.
But hey, it's funny seeing people who never did any amon fight be extremely confused by him 😂
yakuza players when they fight jo amon for the first time: who is this?
This guy will be challenging Kiryu even when he's 80 years old 😭💀
Even when kiryu is dead he will be challenging him in heaven
Wdym? That’s Shin lol-
I can imagine and 80 year old Kiryu fighting Jo (now looking a lot like So Amon from Y0), just charges at him using a rocket powered wheelchair with 4 plasma cannons attached to it. And when he reaches phase 2, the wheelchair just transforms into a huge mech with a comically larger version of Amon's Dagger
So funny thing, I was over leveling, having fun with fights, so when I fought him on the default difficulty, I actually beat him before resurgance unlocked, and man, that was the one fight that taught me how good buff items and the war god talismans were
Friend of mine also attempted to beat him on the first playthrough and managed to do it after suffering through it!
@@devilleon7 hell yeah, nice. I do wish there was a better reward than just a cough tin and a bit of exp/money for the effort, like maybe an extra dialogue box or something, but hey, bragging rights are the next best thing, lol
Infinite Wealth's story gives me the Far Cry 5 vibes because of Palekana group.
Not only did they use the wrong model but also didn't make anything special if you won against him just "nope, you lost". Not to mention his dungeon fight lacks the music and it's replaced with generic dungeon boss theme.
They made Amon dirty in this game. I hope they compensate with some Amon gauntlet DLC maybe.
I think of this as the true amon of the game, as the other fight doesnt even have a unique theme. So that basically means amon is ng+ unless you grind A LOT
Guys forgot his face model from 6 and decided yeah let's just put up Shin Amon's here instead
They messed up with Amon in this game.
They messed up with many things in this game
@@PalloneWafer, very true, unfortunately
@@PalloneWafermainly the story right
It actually bothered me.they didnt use this theme in dungeon the proper encounter is in. Lot of lazy scuffs with amons in this game. I was hoping too much to think there would be a rrally tough amon fight in big swell. Kind of like in one of the judgement dlc being a super amon was hoping for something like that at least.
Sometimes rgg reusing stuffs ended up being good but this time it isn't i wish they let you know why he looks like this, or atleast re use this theme with the other amon battle since they use a generi theme there
This scene feels like a "Take That!" by the devs towards players who dislike the change into turn-based with party members if you look at Amon as a "purist" fan in this situation
A shame that you don't get anything special considering this is a battle that you are supposed to lose
Definitely
Is he Jo Amon or Shin Amon, because he looks like Shin Amon from Judgment Series?
As the name above the HP bar indicates, it's supposed to be Jo. Everyone is just as confused as to why they reused Shin's model for Jo when they've had a perfectly reusable one back from 6 or Kiwami 2.
I might get this game for my birthday
Get it worth it
@@lifedeather got it and your right worth it plus fun
@@GreenandGreenish nice glad your enjoying yourself, just finished new game + on legend like an hour ago and trying to finish the remaining achievements myself. Very fun game
is this Kiryu’s first canonical “loss”?
No, he loses to Majima after getting out of jail in Kiwami.
@@dragonofdojima but you can beat him and it’s acknowledged in game. Here, even if you win it’s acknowledged as a loss.
Honestly amons always reused their faces so what i find weird is the hair more than anything tho this isn't the first time original kazuya amon from ps2 wasn't blond and had a beard
damn only a safe key at the end
Split between not wanting to get the fight and the theme spoiled and having an unscratched amon itche
why does amon scream in agony when he dodges an attack
A lot of kiryu’s final stuff was handled well but man I wish they had Kiryu and Amon’s final battle be cooler (or at least gave Amon a final model)
No tiger drop. I understand Kiryu is alot weaker at this point of his life. The only resemblance I see of tiger drop is in Essence of Komaki. Kinda sad this the last game without his most notorious move.
You it kinda that if you play this casually you only this theme once for like 5 seconds
Rgg done messed up models 😅
craziest part about this fight (for me) is that the fight is scripted so Jo Amon is meant to whoop your ass
in less than a minute
seriously, I got to hear that shiny new Amon theme for about 2 seconds before he killed me
even we defeated him early game, this side quest still scripted
So... I haven't bought this game yet... but; I'm kind of worried about this comments, the fight against Amon is supposed to be like a bless, something hard and a good boss fight but; this ain't the Amon I know I guess? I guess they be using the model for the Judgement it seems, but the thing that worries me the most it's, that they say it doesn't have as much flavor? (and tbh I thought the one of Gaiden was great tho... I'll be worried if they don't make this guy as tough as always)
Does the cutscene change if you defeat him or not?
Nope, it’s ust a “win in fight, lose in cutscene” type thing.
@@SuouTatsuya190 lame...
Cool
Is it just me, or does Jo look a lot younger?
It ain't even Jo
@@devilleon7He look like Shin Amon from Judgment Series
For whatever reason, they reused Shin's model for Jo instead of his own from 6/K2. And people have just thrown out the outlandish (but honestly it could be believable) theory that Jo did actually die during Lost Paradise and his soul somehow came back to Kamurocho and just possessed Shin lol
@@devilleon7 So even in battle, he's mixing us up with his name... The Amon clan really is one of the best in terms of deception, then
Stupid question but, is there a reason your characters are lvl 96 and not lvl 99?
Probably because it takes a long time to get to 99 without the legend mode dungeons, and it's not really needed. You only really need to be around level 95 for the story unless you are going for the big swell in premium since enemies can be as high as 99 in the last sector
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