That guy turned his life around, settled down with someone seemingly nice enough, had a kid together...only to get killed by someone jealous and her whack family.
Ikr? I know how difficult it is to get off opiates and even though I didn't know this dude and I'm sure he wasn't an angel but I've got respect for anyone who turns their lives around and makes a decent life for themselves. NOBODY deserves to die like that and over unfriending you on Facebook!?! Very unfortunate and sad.
As someone who has a close family member struggling w that trash... That kinda hit deep.. I mean this guy really turned his life around and had a beautiful family... Just to be taken away from a bunch of inbred idiots.
@@mattgilbert7347 yeah, she was. Bill was lucky to land her. He must've had a charming personality or was just a good dude cause he didnt land her with his looks.
Yeah, the fact this "CIA agent" who also apparently worked for "ICE oversea's" inexplicably took interest in a conflict in a tiny US town between US citizens, and not only had atrocious grammar, spelling, and punctuation, but also just randomly capitalized non-proper nouns mid-sentence like "Perfect," and "Skinny," felt like _quite_ the giveaway as well.
Can you imagine being Tracy? Knowing that your attempt to reach out and befriend awkward, sickly sheltered woman, make her feel more welcome in town and find your cousin a girlfriend ended up alienating said cousin from the rest of the family, eventually murdering your brother and his fiancee (leaving their six month old baby unharmed, sure, but what could have happened to him in the time it took for them to be found?). And all over a hate campaign that said said woman very, very obviously faked? Jenelle's older sister Christie has had some very interesting things to say about Jennelle and the case; she has argued that Jenelle, while possessing a lower IQ and having auditory processing issues, is much more capable than either of their parents gave her credit for and believes their coddling of her to be part of the reason that Jenelle has always had such a hard time making friends. Upsettingly for Christie (thought I get the impression it was probably more a shock than a surprise for her), evidence was found in the piles of printed off emails to show that Barbra and "Chris" talked about her, with "Chirs" talking about how he was sure that she was friends with these horrible women that were harassing Jenelle, she was whoring herself out (neither of which were true) and how it made him so angry he just wanted to kill her. To which her mother replied; "you're welcome to kill any of them, but if you kill Christie, make sure her body is found. We have a life insurance policy on her". Just in case you needed a reason to hate Babs any ore than you already do...
Exactly. Imagine if those idiots made more children than the two girls. The older daughter was probably a lot brighter and wanted out of that crazy family.
That’s the craziest part of the whole thing. That CIA agent talked like a 6 year old. And those rocks that had Bill and his wife’s full names on them 😂 Like out of a looney tunes episode she got that idea 😂
"They said I was too pretty" It's kinda funny how she doesn't seem to grasp how real world works. Let's say that even if she's really pretty... even miss universe pretty, bullies would say "she's not that pretty anyway" or "she's ugly" or "she got work done on her face". They wouldn't say nice things about her, let alone compliment her. 😅
Some people do compliment others when they bully them, but it's often back handed, i.e "she thinks she's so much better than everyone, because she has a pretty face."
I find it hard to criticize people to their face but I’m also very passive aggressive so one of my personal favorite things to do is say to someone, “ya know, you’re pretty smart for a dumb person” most people will only hear the initial compliment and if you walk away immediately after they think you’re just being nice but also an arrogant prick. I don’t mind them thinking that’s me.
The baby boy was found Alive and Found in his dead mother’s arms? She was only concerned with protecting her baby ..a good mother to the very end. SHE was the unsung hero here. Smh These killers are the picture of ignorance and hatred. Pointless. Awful.
Actually the baby was not found in her arms! @8:19 in the 911 call the friend said the woman was lying near the playpen "it kinda looks like she was trying to get to her baby" . A mother protecting her child is not a hero. She is doing what her instinct is to do, it comes natuarlly, it's nature, same in the wild, would you call a mother bear a hero?
My new favorite thing is imagining they actually DO that and now they're all collectively super frustrated no one's taking them up anymore cause absolutely *everyone'd* heard of this case and is like, "oh, another Chris Gambit. Creative: this guy called himself 'Mike.' Does 'Mike' think I'm stupid? Report as spam." Hilarious
10:39 "I find it unlikely they would say that." That comment. The blast of music. The editing is masterful! I'm sitting here watching this on my desktop with my 42" TV as a monitor, headphones on, roommates sleeping, cat on my lap, engrossed in this horrific tale. Then, I let out a single, explosive, "HA!!". Scared the cat, but I don't think I woke anyone up. Thank you so much.
Mike forgot another crazy part of the story, they have a daughter besides Janelle that moved out and started doing drugs because of a lifetime of being verbally abused by those parents. She got clean and was living happily. She helped police with this by telling them how manipulative Janelle is, and how the parents only loved Janelle because she never questioned anything crazy they did.
@@ingoditrust4629 sure thing im hoping for the best with her...the detectives who interviewed her for this case couldn't believe how she was treated by ther parents, but noted she was down to Earth and well aware of her family's evil.
@@Marie.b yeah I heard, I just thought it was interesting and personally felt it was worth mentioning that she was ALSO a target for the parents/Janelle...she felt her life was in danger too, and wanted zip to do with the family. She knew what they did and what they're capable of, the parents abandoned her for having her own thoughts. Hence why Jenelle had to hide her boyfriend while she was an adult...even JENELLE almost ran away with her man one night....the parents are the fkn worst. They don't care about their kids like they pretend, or they'd care about the one they threw away who desperately wanted to please them for a short while.
One thing that chills me to my core is how Barbara (the mother) said that they had no problem with going as far as killing THE BABY. They were willing to murder a literal infant child..... If that doesn't tell you that these people are just as evil as they are stupid then you've lost mate.
I read somewhere that Barbara had gotten a request for a new trial, but I don't know if it actually happened. I do know for a fact that I watched an interview Barbara gave where she said that she loved Jennelle but not enough to spend the rest of her life in prison for her. I think that Barbara is just as guilty as the rest of the family.
@@mariakelly1059 She did get her initial conviction overturned in the summer of '21, but she plead guilty at her new trial a few months later. So she's now serving 25 years for two counts of facilitation of first degree murder instead of the two life sentences for two counts of first degree murder.
I could hear Fred Armisen say "straight to jail" in my head so many times during this one. If you even think about shooting a baby, u deserve to be carted off. That was so telling.
I don't know which is worse- the fact that Janelle set this whole tragedy in motion with those (very poorly written ) messages, emails and rocks... or that her parents fell for all of it -thus incited to murder.
The language of the uneducated should have given them a clue. Except.....all those errors in capitalization, punctuation, etc., may have looked fine to them. Sad story. Poor little orphaned baby.
It's all so crazy. This is one of the reasons jealously is one of the seven deadly sins. She might have the mind of a child but she sure new how to manipulate all these people.
@@betheakenny31 Death and lies aren't sins. They are: wrath, pride (though it's more like entitlement), avarice, slothfulness, lust, gluttony and envy. Traits, not actions
I was in jail with Janelle. She had several different personalities that loved to come out from time to time. "Chris" was one of them. She denied her and her family having anything to do with Bill and Billies deaths up to the very day that she went to court and got a life sentence. I saw the other side of her and I don't have a doubt in my mind that she manipulated her dad into killing them.
Never knew the names of the others, it was Chris that came out the most. Very very deceptive. At one point, I don't think this one was Chris, she started screaming at all of us saying that we were all talking about her and it was very unsettling. Her eyes actually turned dark and were just slits, spit was flying everywhere and she was yelling incomprehensibly. The CO's came in and took her to a cell by herself
@@NatalieMarie917 I set my phone down and me and my co worker was listening when we heard that so I had to look at the video and the picture flashed and I agree I thought it too Hahahah
The level of sheer, brutal stupidity displayed in the conversations with this supposed "CIA operative"... did they really believe that this is the way the CIA works? Local small town intrigue? "Your daughter is too pretty, so the CIA is all over this." And to think that innocent people actually died over it... really heart-breaking. Never underestimate the danger of heavily-armed idiots.
A huge congrats to Bill though for becoming sober. Addiction is a true pain in the ass and that’s amazing that he was able to give up pills AND alcohol! A round of applause for him👏🏽
Imagine trying to get someone sheltered like this to make friends and socialise only for them to kill your brother's family. Just a terrible story, but a great video as always.
Totally legit CIA agent, definitely not Jennelle: "Jenelle is pretty, they're just jealous Satanists. The deep, golden brown stains on her teeth are as resplendent as the rays of an Autumn sunset"
Billie Jean (the woman bill chose over Janelle) was 100x prettier. The idea she would ever be jealous or frankly even have a thought pass through her head about a loser like Janelle is ridiculous
@@liddytheweeb I believe you. But the idea that Billie Jean (bill's current wife) would be jealous of Janelle for being "too pretty" is preposterous given she herself was a genuinely good looking woman. And Janelle was....Janelle. Not saying there aren't some losers who'd bed Janelle just bc she had a full set of teeth, but Billie Jean would've never threatened/stalked her over being "too pretty". BJ was beautiful.
I didn't understand why they did that until I read someone say they thought that that's you get things out of the computer forever. I guess they don't teach much in the CIA 🤷🏻♀️ good grief.
You guys definitely don’t understand.. I mean Jenelle is obviously prettyer. With that orange smile and barrel body.. the only thing wrong was her tan.. I think she over did it with the tanning..
It's soooo sad this young family was killed!!! That poor mom still holding her baby, that tells you how truly heartless these killers were!!!! Especially Janelle and Barabara....
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 oh God!! The look on Mike's face when janel said "they said I was to pretty" with the quote "I find it unlikely they would say that" then jump straight to her picture was freaking priceless!!
Does that mean deep down janelle had a feeling that her father was delusional about his importance in Vietnam and cia ties? If even she, at the intellect level of a child, could use the delusion to bs him into action? Wow.
@@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263 look up "McNamara's boys" .. it was alluded to in Forrest Gump along with lots of other things history doesn't like to talk about. He literally changed regulations to allow the mentally retarded in to get more bodies over there and off government tests where the social welfare belong
When I was 6 my sister had a bracelet I wanted. I took it, put it in our garden and while we were playing I pretended to find it. Obviously she knew it was hers and I was caught out. That plan was more intelligent and thought out than what happened here jfc. She may as well have used the marine sniper copy pasta.
@@Mimi2thebestboysever I wish a lot of these cases had little updates, I'd love if he posted a quickie vid at the end with a 30 second update years after the case. Prob a ton of work though, but interesting.
Tyler Dean Payne seems to have been taken in by his maternal grandmother, according to someone who quoted the sheriff and cited a now dead link. The mother's obit asked for donations to a fund for the baby's care in lieu of flowers, and listed his extensive family, so I'm sure he had plenty of support. He was so young at the time. I'm sure they aren't sharing info about him to protect his privacy, so there was not really anything to update in the vid, but I'm also sure he's ok.
@@limner123 oh wow, thanks. I'll look up his name, I'd like to donate a few dollars to the child since they probably have used up a lot of their donations already raising him. I thought a lot about that baby since the 1st time I heard this story. Did you know that Janelle's mother ordered Buddy (Janelle's father & one of the shooters) to kill the baby when they went? Both men, evil as they are, had more of a conscience than that nut a$$ broad.
I used to work in a forensic service for adults with learning difficulties. Don’t mistake having a low IQ with being totally stupid, some of the cases I know of are totally mind blowing for their complexity and levels of manipulation.
Oh sure, stupid people can try to manipulate. They just are not very successful unless the people they are trying to manipulate are as dumb as they are. I work with an autistic woman who says things like "I don't know how to do that" when she is asked to do something she doesn't want to. But she says it about things she knows how to do and everyone has seen her do before in the past. She lies, she just isn't bright enough to be any good at it.
Mike, my lad, my wife and I say "Hi Mike!" and "Bye Mike!" before and after every episode. We love your brogue, and the "tirdy trees," and your sense of timing and appropriate humor about such dark subjects. Keep up the great work!
Normally, the back story of a young disabled woman who had trouble making friends would absolutely tug at my heartstrings and make me feel some level of compassion. But in this case, no amount of childhood bullying or bad social skills can excuse what this woman did. And her parents are absolute fools for believing all of her lies.
@Justin H. bro you look like you have children to tend to so stop commenting on a youtube comment and do something with your life instead of complaining about someone's humor on a quote that was funny at the time
@Justin H. it's funny that your a grown ass man arguing with a 16 year old about a comment he thought was funny you probably need to rethink your life choices, the sad part is I'm living in a million dollar house from my two hard working parents in their oil company keep talking bud I can do this all day 😘. You should also rethink about vaping if you want to see your grandkids someday just saying because if that doesn't kill you then Corona will do it.
That Baby was not even one year old. If he came into a good home (was adopted) he would not remember anything of his real parents. I write from experience, I can't remember one thing I experienced in a home for small children. I was told many years later that I was one baby of 6 weeks, when they took me away from my mother.
Yeah that's the sad part of this story. People THINK before doing anything crazy like this. Karma will be a bitch and someone innocent always gets hurt in the crossfire!!
@@saramaxinerigotti6260in this case, all 3 were innocent. Both parents had purposely distanced themselves from Janelle because they thought she was crazy. They had no idea how right they were. RIP Bill and Billie. I truly hope the baby is doing well.
I’m half way through this video. My dad is a combat medic in Vietnam. He hates when I tell people that. He hates telling people he served, and he hates talking about anything that happened over there to anyone except my mom and me. Most people who know my dad, has no idea he served. Because of the way he was treated when he came home. He’ll never forget that. He still goes to VA regularly. I wanna know if he really served or not. Because I don’t think he did.
What’s truly horrifying here is that - in comparison to a massive percentage of families out there - this family is on the more intelligent side. That’s how dumb the average family is in this world.
Yeah, it made me wonder if Buddy was one of McNamara's Morons -- low IQ men accepted or conscripted into the military to fight in Vietnam. Some were so stupid they couldn't be trusted to point their rifle the right way.
You never ask for a like or subscribe or try to peddle your merch to us and I think thats rare as hell these days..also think its cool that the merch was an absolute afterthought in this video. You always maintain so much respect for the victims. Love this channel
The CIA bully unit got replaced with the anti lunch money stealing, black OPS RICCO crime unit, until they all went rogue and shot the hall monitors. That sounds way more plausible than jennels defense team lol
She’s a classic Fragile Narcissist. Always the victim even when faced with irrefutable evidence of her guilt. But let’s face it, that whole family was barely able to rub two brain cells together.
If I were the detective that was there I would have burst out laughing and said "yes that is quite a funny joke lololololol how does one aquire those pretty yellow teeth of yours?" she certainly is special 😳 just way to pretty 🤢
@@gigglesinside I'm preeeety sure he is joking when he wrote "they were asking for it", it's sarcastic, dark humor, you know, deliciously twisting facts because obviously that is what those imbeciles must have thought the ones who killed them, when they were not doing a damn thing to deserve what that lunatic schemed to do to their innocent lives.
Right? Imagine just living your life and starting a family, meanwhile completely clueless that a shitstorm is brewing in a fake world in someone else’s life and it’s going to extinguish a lot of your family. It’s really disturbing
Bill had turned his life around for the woman he loved, and made a life with her and their child, only for it all to come crashing down because of some jealous nutjob. Now that child will grow up without his parents, and probably with no memories of them since he was so young. Everything about their deaths is tragic and heartbreaking. 😥💔
Having bearly any clue this woman/child is building up an evil plot that will eventually lead to them being murdered. History is full of cases where whole towns, villages and counties went after and killed people over a childs lies.
I like how Janelle's parents kept telling her and everyone that she was mentally incapable of understanding her actions but all the while their brains weren't functioning at normal capacity. Side note, when they were talking about them being jealous of Janelle b/c she was pretty and then Mike showed an unflattering pic of her. I spit my juice out 🤣🤣
“It was a quiet little town of about 10 people where nothing ever happened.” Every murder ever. Edit: Some people don’t understand over exaggeration when it is used as a mechanism for comedic purposes.
It always baffles me at almost everyone ever murdered was bubbly,loved everyone, everyone loved them and would do anything for anybody. I have already written my own obituary. It says "she was such a bitch,I don't know how she wasn't killed years ago. Not one thing nice to say about her". I swear only nice lovely people are murdered so I don't think I will be a murder victim. LOL.
Jokes anyway cause things happen everywhere all the time. Never got why people say that sort of thing. What they mean is "things happen but we either don't know about it, ignore it, or hide it"
@@redheadwithafierytemper5668 that's because most nice people don't know how to say NO. And don't nip it at the bud when shit starts to go wrong. They think others are Like them and mean no harm. That's basically how my mom is and how she NEARLY GOT KILLED.
OMG! I feel like I've been in a mental hospital during this episode!!! This is beyond crazy! It always surprises me how much time & energy some people put into resentment, retaliation, bitter revenge & hatred. Life is too short. Rise above hatred & remember living well is best revenge!! Karma can be a bitch! Thanks Mike. You never disappoint 💜👍🌻
16:48 "I work with some marines over seas's and do things with them and also go on walks and know what's going on there." we got a certified superspy over here
he did it all NCIS, CIA, IRS,KGB, the Stone cutter's, .America is safe because of him, and because the most important thing for all your security was to have all the government resources protecting this women. Oh wait.
Pac West It's also prob b/c that's what she drugged poor Caylee w/ so she could go party some more, the POS that she was & still is!! You know what detectives always say: theirs always a little truth woven into their elaborate lies.
I read that she did have a babysitter by that name, so was completely cleared and then went on to sue Casey Anthony for defamation and won the case. So basically confirming that Casey lied yet again and still got away with it
Having "special needs" does not necessarily have any relationship with IQ; my brother is on the spectrum and has an exceptionally high IQ. Secondly, Jenelle did not have any neurological disorders- just an auditory processing disorder and some apparent mental illnesses
@@rose-yd9mn I am on the spectrum too. IQ was a poor term to indicate what I was trying to say, since I am well aware of the flaws in IQ as a measure. What I was trying to say is that the parents were defensive of her because they said she was….I don’t know exactly how to express this but they believed she wasn’t smart enough to not be in danger of exploitation , yet she was apparently more than capable of stringing them along.
Ahh no special needs here or dredging up sympathies to the evil idiots that destroyed a young family, they deserve all the heart ache that is generated by there pea sized minds.
I agree but when you think about it, it wouldn't be hard to do. She catfished them and there are still some older adults who are not as familiar with the online trickery of social media as their younger counterparts. Just being able to send emails probably made them feel technologically advanced. I just wish I could have seen the father's face when he found out his daughter had tricked him, and he had killed those innocent people (and was now serving two life sentences) for nothing.
Wants to point out how the parents incredible desire to have their biases confirmed and centered is reeeeeeally similar to stuff we're seeing present day on a grand scale.
You are the only one that covered this bizarre murder(s) that got it all correct. I have watched them all, the news, read the book. Thank you for being spot on. Jenelle obviously is insane as well.
@@jen30551 Can you share the book name? There was one sentence in the emails that mentioned killing the baby. At 20:00 in Barbara's email to Jenell- I mean Chris, she says "so if someone wants to bring it on, they will all die, including the baby." Curious if there were more references to that.
@@kelly_aldridge Its called "Too Pretty to Live: The Catfishing Murders of East Tennessee" by the prosecutor Dennis Brooks. You should definitely check it out! I found it to be a well written, compelling read. He includes a lot of the emails which are a trip to read. I dont recall if there was more spefically on her wanting the baby dead but I do recall it being pretty clear that she wasn't opposed to it! That mother is a the truly dangerous one in my opinion. I believe she was at least partly aware of what was happening and enjoyed it.
I'm a true crime/ paranormal junkie. Anything along those lines I'm into. Glitches in reality all that. When i first came across Mike i wasn't sold. But a year later I just clicked on a video and 3 weeks later I'm still binge watching. I even use your videos to fall asleep cause your voice is really cool. Guess nothing don't happen before its time 😂. Anyways blessings from Trinidad, in the Caribbean. 😊😊
I was hooked from the start! I've been watching Mike almost from the beginning. He was instantly my favorite channel and hundred of thousands of subscribers later, he's _still_ my favorite channel! By far!
Here's the merch store I mentioned, if you're up for it. Or not, up to you. teespring.com/stores/that-chapter
So stoked... My wife's gonna be pissed when she sees my that chapter shirt
Yayyy, TC merch, I'm so stoked!!
Only merch i've ever considered buying lol Can't wait to suprise my bf w matching tees !!
@@dannythompson1948 is she not going to watch this video
I'd like one of your red shirts please. Preferably worn... for a few days..
The true unsung hero of this whole tale, is the officer who spent a month piecing all the shredded paper back together.
Indeed
The cop did a great job.
Ha ha...I forgot about that...man now you got me cracking up
@kinG iZZy damn...
True. There must have been hundreds or thousands of emails. Why would they have printed them out?
That guy turned his life around, settled down with someone seemingly nice enough, had a kid together...only to get killed by someone jealous and her whack family.
And his Poor sister, who was trying to help that disabled girl who killed them.
So frikin sad
They thought jenelle was to pretty prettyer than them ass--holes. (Taken from Chris emails to the potters).
Ikr?
I know how difficult it is to get off opiates and even though I didn't know this dude and I'm sure he wasn't an angel but I've got respect for anyone who turns their lives around and makes a decent life for themselves.
NOBODY deserves to die like that and over unfriending you on Facebook!?!
Very unfortunate and sad.
Your hair looks
Awful
Bill beat his demons for his family and became the man he wanted to be...just to get everything stolen away like that..it kills me.
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I don't mean to be crude and sexist but Billie Jean was a babe.
Legit tragedy.
As someone who has a close family member struggling w that trash... That kinda hit deep.. I mean this guy really turned his life around and had a beautiful family... Just to be taken away from a bunch of inbred idiots.
@@mattgilbert7347 yeah, she was. Bill was lucky to land her. He must've had a charming personality or was just a good dude cause he didnt land her with his looks.
@@BiIlDipperIy yeah..shit hurts dude...I legit just lost a friend 5 days ago to an overdose..now it hurts even worse..damn..
Chris: “I wErK fOr the SeE Aye Eh!!!!1!”
Barbs: Seems legit...
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JT McClure 😂😂😂
It's the writing "Bill" and "Billie Jean" on the rocks for me.
I know, I just couldn't control myself anymore when I saw that. like okay, were done here.
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Nice penmanship tho
@@TheDramacist it was f**king EXCELLENT penmanship
Yeah, the fact this "CIA agent" who also apparently worked for "ICE oversea's" inexplicably took interest in a conflict in a tiny US town between US citizens, and not only had atrocious grammar, spelling, and punctuation, but also just randomly capitalized non-proper nouns mid-sentence like "Perfect," and "Skinny," felt like _quite_ the giveaway as well.
I truly believe they thought printing the emails would take them out of the computer and that’s why they printed and shredded them... genius.
sleepie 🤔🤔 gosh darn it we did it, we tooken them out the computer and the rocks with their names written on it.....we never gonna be caught now.
@@hunterways2442 😂😂💀
oh my god you're right that was 100% the motive behind printing and shredding them
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If they would never have printed them there’s a strong possibility they would’ve never been caught.
Can you imagine being Tracy? Knowing that your attempt to reach out and befriend awkward, sickly sheltered woman, make her feel more welcome in town and find your cousin a girlfriend ended up alienating said cousin from the rest of the family, eventually murdering your brother and his fiancee (leaving their six month old baby unharmed, sure, but what could have happened to him in the time it took for them to be found?). And all over a hate campaign that said said woman very, very obviously faked?
Jenelle's older sister Christie has had some very interesting things to say about Jennelle and the case; she has argued that Jenelle, while possessing a lower IQ and having auditory processing issues, is much more capable than either of their parents gave her credit for and believes their coddling of her to be part of the reason that Jenelle has always had such a hard time making friends.
Upsettingly for Christie (thought I get the impression it was probably more a shock than a surprise for her), evidence was found in the piles of printed off emails to show that Barbra and "Chris" talked about her, with "Chirs" talking about how he was sure that she was friends with these horrible women that were harassing Jenelle, she was whoring herself out (neither of which were true) and how it made him so angry he just wanted to kill her. To which her mother replied; "you're welcome to kill any of them, but if you kill Christie, make sure her body is found. We have a life insurance policy on her". Just in case you needed a reason to hate Babs any ore than you already do...
It's understandable that Jenelle would end up messed up with a mother like that. Who knows what insanity she was fed on.
Contemplate this... Jenelle was the MASTERMIND. That means the rest of them were dumber. Yikes.
for real that's crazy
Exactly. Imagine if those idiots made more children than the two girls. The older daughter was probably a lot brighter and wanted out of that crazy family.
I mean it's Not unusual that the child is getting "smarter" than his parents
@@constanceskalecki4928 true
That’s the craziest part of the whole thing. That CIA agent talked like a 6 year old. And those rocks that had Bill and his wife’s full names on them 😂
Like out of a looney tunes episode she got that idea 😂
That cop that spent a month piecing all those papers together NEEDS AN EXTREME RAISE
"I think they're jealous of me for being too pretty."
"I'll call the White House!"
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This guy is so funny man
The audacity
"They said I was too pretty"
It's kinda funny how she doesn't seem to grasp how real world works. Let's say that even if she's really pretty... even miss universe pretty, bullies would say "she's not that pretty anyway" or "she's ugly" or "she got work done on her face". They wouldn't say nice things about her, let alone compliment her. 😅
Some people do compliment others when they bully them, but it's often back handed, i.e "she thinks she's so much better than everyone, because she has a pretty face."
Yep…but it goes WAY further than that.
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I find it hard to criticize people to their face but I’m also very passive aggressive so one of my personal favorite things to do is say to someone, “ya know, you’re pretty smart for a dumb person” most people will only hear the initial compliment and if you walk away immediately after they think you’re just being nice but also an arrogant prick. I don’t mind them thinking that’s me.
@@richardtherichard26I’ll say it to anyone’s face if need be. I don’t care I’ll call my boss out. Oh wait I just did that.
The baby boy was found Alive and Found in his dead mother’s arms? She was only concerned with protecting her baby ..a good mother to the very end. SHE was the unsung hero here. Smh
These killers are the picture of ignorance and hatred.
Pointless. Awful.
Yea but why are the levels of thermite so high in the debris of ground zero if a plane crash caused the collapse
@@joshbrz8902 there’s some things we will never no
@@bunnykinssmile *know
I know, right?!? How cold do you have to be to shoot someone who is holding their BABY?!? Sick and evil!
Actually the baby was not found in her arms! @8:19 in the 911 call the friend said the woman was lying near the playpen "it kinda looks like she was trying to get to her baby" . A mother protecting her child is not a hero. She is doing what her instinct is to do, it comes natuarlly, it's nature, same in the wild, would you call a mother bear a hero?
"They were harassing me for being too pretty"
God imagine being accused of a crime you didn't even commit.
Ahahahahahahahahahha
Yeah cuz I’m sure if they harassed her it was NOT because of her being pretty.
*couldn't 😂 not even, COULDN'T 😳
Mike? Is that you?? 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The whole family combined had the IQ of a raincoat.
^^^ My favourite comment on the Internet today 😂😂
hah i noticed
After watching, was going to say the same thing. Id be surprised, if any of them had an 80+ IQ.
A netted raincoat
I usually say someone has the IQ of a lettuce leaf when describing someone stupid but raincoat sounds much better 😂
🤔 How on Earth did they think these emails sounded like they were written by a Federal agent? 🤦🏻♀️
Marines aren't known to be very intelligent.
Mike is getting me through quarantine, wildfires, and job loss.
Sorry to hear that. Good luck with the job search. Doing that myself...so much fun.
@@geewilakers5229 thank you! I got some temp PT work for now. Good luck to you, too!
Oof same.
Keep your head up, our greatest enemy is ourselves. Hopefully things get better for you sooner rather than later.
i hope you and yours are safe, and i hope good fortunes find you soon, friend!!
"It came out as a jealousy thing. They said I was too pretty"
Wonder what kind of face the investigator had when she said this.
He probably gave a her a polite smile meanwhile dying of cringe on the inside 😅
I don't know how he kept a straight face.
Probably looked like the Disgusted Tanjiro Meme.
Whatever kind of face you make when you swallow your own vomit.
I couldn't have kept a straight face. Laughing out loud as well.
Pro tip: The CIA doesn't ask town folks to kill internet bullies.
My new favorite thing is imagining they actually DO that and now they're all collectively super frustrated no one's taking them up anymore cause absolutely *everyone'd* heard of this case and is like, "oh, another Chris Gambit. Creative: this guy called himself 'Mike.' Does 'Mike' think I'm stupid? Report as spam."
Hilarious
Who knows what the CIA does, lol
Sophie Frankis is obviously the real CIA chris trying to mislead us.
@@ChrisD4335 I see you there Chris
🤣🤣🤣
10:39 "I find it unlikely they would say that." That comment. The blast of music. The editing is masterful! I'm sitting here watching this on my desktop with my 42" TV as a monitor, headphones on, roommates sleeping, cat on my lap, engrossed in this horrific tale. Then, I let out a single, explosive, "HA!!". Scared the cat, but I don't think I woke anyone up. Thank you so much.
Mike forgot another crazy part of the story, they have a daughter besides Janelle that moved out and started doing drugs because of a lifetime of being verbally abused by those parents. She got clean and was living happily. She helped police with this by telling them how manipulative Janelle is, and how the parents only loved Janelle because she never questioned anything crazy they did.
Thank You and her parents and her sister are out of her hair.I sincerely hope she's well because this is madness....
@@ingoditrust4629 sure thing im hoping for the best with her...the detectives who interviewed her for this case couldn't believe how she was treated by ther parents, but noted she was down to Earth and well aware of her family's evil.
Man that interview at the end. Can't even face her own lunacy.
Mike did actually mention they had another daughter who moved out prior to them moving to the mountain place!
@@Marie.b yeah I heard, I just thought it was interesting and personally felt it was worth mentioning that she was ALSO a target for the parents/Janelle...she felt her life was in danger too, and wanted zip to do with the family. She knew what they did and what they're capable of, the parents abandoned her for having her own thoughts. Hence why Jenelle had to hide her boyfriend while she was an adult...even JENELLE almost ran away with her man one night....the parents are the fkn worst.
They don't care about their kids like they pretend, or they'd care about the one they threw away who desperately wanted to please them for a short while.
No disclaimer could’ve prepared me for those emails
Doesn't sound she has mental issues.
One thing that chills me to my core is how Barbara (the mother) said that they had no problem with going as far as killing THE BABY. They were willing to murder a literal infant child..... If that doesn't tell you that these people are just as evil as they are stupid then you've lost mate.
They're evil sure, but thankfully for the justice system their stupidity was leagues ahead of their depravity.
Those werent true. Those were jenelles made up bullshiet
I read somewhere that Barbara had gotten a request for a new trial, but I don't know if it actually happened. I do know for a fact that I watched an interview Barbara gave where she said that she loved Jennelle but not enough to spend the rest of her life in prison for her. I think that Barbara is just as guilty as the rest of the family.
@@mariakelly1059 She did get her initial conviction overturned in the summer of '21, but she plead guilty at her new trial a few months later. So she's now serving 25 years for two counts of facilitation of first degree murder instead of the two life sentences for two counts of first degree murder.
I could hear Fred Armisen say "straight to jail" in my head so many times during this one. If you even think about shooting a baby, u deserve to be carted off. That was so telling.
I don't know which is worse- the fact that Janelle set this whole tragedy in motion with those (very poorly written ) messages, emails and rocks... or that her parents fell for all of it -thus incited to murder.
The language of the uneducated should have given them a clue. Except.....all those errors in capitalization, punctuation, etc., may have looked fine to them. Sad story. Poor little orphaned baby.
It's all so crazy. This is one of the reasons jealously is one of the seven deadly sins. She might have the mind of a child but she sure new how to manipulate all these people.
@@aleisaetheridge8682 not only jealous, death, lie, envy,etc.....
@@betheakenny31 all of those 7 deadly's for sure.
@@betheakenny31 Death and lies aren't sins. They are: wrath, pride (though it's more like entitlement), avarice, slothfulness, lust, gluttony and envy. Traits, not actions
I was in jail with Janelle. She had several different personalities that loved to come out from time to time. "Chris" was one of them. She denied her and her family having anything to do with Bill and Billies deaths up to the very day that she went to court and got a life sentence. I saw the other side of her and I don't have a doubt in my mind that she manipulated her dad into killing them.
Can I ask what the other personalities are?
Never knew the names of the others, it was Chris that came out the most. Very very deceptive. At one point, I don't think this one was Chris, she started screaming at all of us saying that we were all talking about her and it was very unsettling. Her eyes actually turned dark and were just slits, spit was flying everywhere and she was yelling incomprehensibly. The CO's came in and took her to a cell by herself
@@gypsysoul0543 Wow. That sounds pretty intense. Thank you for the reply!
I'm assuming you were in jail for something much less serious than murder. Must have been creepy as hell to be locked up with someone like that!
Thanks for the info
So basically... Bill and his girlfriend died for nothing. 💔
LITERALLY! 😣😣😣
And that poor little kid lost both of his parents. :(
They should have moved away.
@@AN-xs7dw oh another herr hindsight!
Just awful! An innocent baby lost both parents over nothing!!😡😔
Jenelle: "It seemed it was a jealousy thing" "That I was to Pretty"...
CIA: "I'll Call the Whitehouse"... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@stevechristie2569 Nope
*too
That poor little boy lost his innocent, sweet and loving parents...this is sad, sad, sad. Makes me sick
I can only imagine how bad Bill Payne's sister must have felt for even bringing this woman into her bro's life
Thank You, was looking for someone to comment this. So sad.
Yea and the guy she hooked her up with helped in it. This is why I'm not nice to anyone. It rarely is repaid and in the end you're on your own.
"I'm too pretty."
"I doubt they'd say that."
Oh, Michael.
I mean...it's true. 😆
Cornhole was their favorite game
😂😂😂
@Francelina BTS Army Mom Same
I thought it was common knowledge that every American has a cia guardian angel assigned to protect them from birth. Mine is called Drop Dead Fred.
OMG awesome movie! I totally forgot about it until I read your comment. Thanks for the reminder!
We call mine Deep Fried Dread.
Mine is named Frank
OMFG I LOVE DROP DEAD FRED I just watched it last year probably. Have it on DVD. Lol
Good movie reference!
“I find it unlikely they would say that” man that was a wicked burn
Mike's a savage. 🔥 lol
He was just saying what we were all thinking (or at least probably 90% of us)
@@NatalieMarie917 I set my phone down and me and my co worker was listening when we heard that so I had to look at the video and the picture flashed and I agree I thought it too Hahahah
such a subtle but gnarly burn
Call me crazy, but I don't think ANYBODY would say that to their enemy. Who gives their enemy a compliment?
The level of sheer, brutal stupidity displayed in the conversations with this supposed "CIA operative"... did they really believe that this is the way the CIA works? Local small town intrigue? "Your daughter is too pretty, so the CIA is all over this."
And to think that innocent people actually died over it... really heart-breaking. Never underestimate the danger of heavily-armed idiots.
It is baffling
Janelle was nuts. People died because she couldn't process her jealousy !!
Like Jodie Arias, except Janelle didn't get her hands dirty.
I blamed the idiots who believe the messages more than Janelle.
"Then she did the unthinkable... she unfriended her on Facebook" 😂😂😂
She will be hurt to hear Mike show her real Pettiness 😂😂😂
I never have been on Facebook. I don't wanna connect to people lol.
@@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263 Your name says all..cocky loner.
What is Facebook?
@@sirusThu Facebook is pretty much an adult app that allows people to connect online, aswell as share pictures and chat with other people!
“They said I was too pretty.”
No, honey, they didn’t.
Her mommy said she was amd her mommy doesnt lie.
Period
I'll call the white house.
@@shawndamccormick278 Thank you for your service.
Did she ever use a mirror?
Why did the Potters have those hot fotos of Billie?
A huge congrats to Bill though for becoming sober. Addiction is a true pain in the ass and that’s amazing that he was able to give up pills AND alcohol! A round of applause for him👏🏽
I bet Billy’s sister felt horrible that she was the one who introduced them.
No good deed
* stab, sorry ESL here!
She sure does billy was her best friend
It's not her fault that they were killed at all, so...
I am pretty sure that Jamie and Bill are cousins. It’s a whole big mess. I just finished the book Too Pretty to Live by one of the attorneys.
Imagine trying to get someone sheltered like this to make friends and socialise only for them to kill your brother's family. Just a terrible story, but a great video as always.
Emails to Jennelle: you're ugly
Jennelle to cop: They said I was too pretty.
Totally legit CIA agent, definitely not Jennelle: "Jenelle is pretty, they're just jealous Satanists. The deep, golden brown stains on her teeth are as resplendent as the rays of an Autumn sunset"
Bill: yea, jenelle you're just *too* pretty
jennelle: knew it.
@@je7055 🤣🤣🤣
o'they...? oh, they should stay away from them
No, it was “Your ugly!”, not “You’re..”. Lol.
Damn, I don't know whether it was that Jenelle was a brilliant chessmaster or just that everyone else involved was about as sharp as a sack of frogs.
The latter. Definitely the latter.
@@joepeake8972 best simile ever
I'm stealing that metaphor btw
A sack of frogs, huh? That's a new one to me
@@Rugelacharugula ikr?! I'm using it ASAP 😁
“They said I was too pretty.” You: “(makes face) I find it unlikely they’d say that..” LOLOL!
The sad thing is that there's so many people withering away from a meth addiction in the area that she's honestly not bad looking comparatively
Billie Jean (the woman bill chose over Janelle) was 100x prettier. The idea she would ever be jealous or frankly even have a thought pass through her head about a loser like Janelle is ridiculous
@@pandamandimax I've seen some people that were basically just skeletons wandering around for their fix. It's not pretty.
@@liddytheweeb I believe you. But the idea that Billie Jean (bill's current wife) would be jealous of Janelle for being "too pretty" is preposterous given she herself was a genuinely good looking woman. And Janelle was....Janelle. Not saying there aren't some losers who'd bed Janelle just bc she had a full set of teeth, but Billie Jean would've never threatened/stalked her over being "too pretty". BJ was beautiful.
😭😭😭😭
So are we all gonna just overlook that they PRINTED OUT THE E-MAILS?!?!?!
And THATS how they got caught....
Right? Let’s print these and shred them, that will wipe them from existence! 😂
obviously they didnt have much forward thinking going on...or any thinking at all id wager
She worked for hp and honestly thought that
I didn't understand why they did that until I read someone say they thought that that's you get things out of the computer forever. I guess they don't teach much in the CIA 🤷🏻♀️ good grief.
I don't understand why detectives bothers to put them all together when they're just on the computer
Jenelle: they had been harassing the living crap out of me - saying I was too pretty
Mike: I find it unlikely that they’d say that
😂😂👌 hilarious.
Um yeah, I don't think orange teeth are the look most people are going for.
😂😂😂 I had the same reaction when Mike said that
Mike had better watch it... Jenelle doesn’t seem like the one you want to piss off!
You guys definitely don’t understand.. I mean Jenelle is obviously prettyer. With that orange smile and barrel body.. the only thing wrong was her tan.. I think she over did it with the tanning..
I love this guy 😻
It's soooo sad this young family was killed!!! That poor mom still holding her baby, that tells you how truly heartless these killers were!!!! Especially Janelle and Barabara....
Chapter is so good at what he does. Adds that bit of comic relief to these f*cked up series of events he covers. Very well done.
Sad that the child will grow up without parents because of a delusional stalker.
True
And the btch doesn't even have the decency to admit it. I can't believe she still expects anyone to believe her. She feels no remorse at all.
That was family member of mine killed. The baby suffers brain damage due to being smothered.
@@BustedWalletGarage omg thats horrible, did the mom fall on the baby or did they men smother it? its okay if you dont want to answer though
Chaos24Chaos24 mom was holding baby when she was shot. Pretty terrible.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 oh God!! The look on Mike's face when janel said "they said I was to pretty" with the quote "I find it unlikely they would say that" then jump straight to her picture was freaking priceless!!
LMFAO I lost it. And I'm glad he said it because we were ALL thinking it.
What was the time stamp on this? Or the general part of the video? I'm trying to find it Again and I can't.
@@DripLordGango 10:40 lol
I fell out
@@truth4004 thank you, people never put the timestamp, so thanks again.
Does that mean deep down janelle had a feeling that her father was delusional about his importance in Vietnam and cia ties? If even she, at the intellect level of a child, could use the delusion to bs him into action? Wow.
He should have never served bc his mind isn't right. They weren't strict about that back then.
@@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263 look up "McNamara's boys" .. it was alluded to in Forrest Gump along with lots of other things history doesn't like to talk about. He literally changed regulations to allow the mentally retarded in to get more bodies over there and off government tests where the social welfare belong
When I was 6 my sister had a bracelet I wanted. I took it, put it in our garden and while we were playing I pretended to find it. Obviously she knew it was hers and I was caught out. That plan was more intelligent and thought out than what happened here jfc. She may as well have used the marine sniper copy pasta.
That poor baby 😭 lying helpless in his mum's arms as she died. I hope he's doing well today. 🙏
That was my first thought! I was hoping Mike would tell us who took the baby.
So sad!!!
@@Mimi2thebestboysever I wish a lot of these cases had little updates, I'd love if he posted a quickie vid at the end with a 30 second update years after the case. Prob a ton of work though, but interesting.
Tyler Dean Payne seems to have been taken in by his maternal grandmother, according to someone who quoted the sheriff and cited a now dead link. The mother's obit asked for donations to a fund for the baby's care in lieu of flowers, and listed his extensive family, so I'm sure he had plenty of support. He was so young at the time. I'm sure they aren't sharing info about him to protect his privacy, so there was not really anything to update in the vid, but I'm also sure he's ok.
@@limner123 oh wow, thanks. I'll look up his name, I'd like to donate a few dollars to the child since they probably have used up a lot of their donations already raising him.
I thought a lot about that baby since the 1st time I heard this story. Did you know that Janelle's mother ordered Buddy (Janelle's father & one of the shooters) to kill the baby when they went? Both men, evil as they are, had more of a conscience than that nut a$$ broad.
"Billie Jean is not my lover, she's just a girl who thinks that I am the one."
LOL
🤣🤣🤣
@@anjachan he he he.
" but the kid is not my son..."
😂😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I used to work in a forensic service for adults with learning difficulties. Don’t mistake having a low IQ with being totally stupid, some of the cases I know of are totally mind blowing for their complexity and levels of manipulation.
I agree. It's like stupidity and ignorance are two totally different things.
Absolutely
For real. IQ is a measure of certain types of intelligence, but is no way an end-all-be-all for capability
Oh sure, stupid people can try to manipulate. They just are not very successful unless the people they are trying to manipulate are as dumb as they are. I work with an autistic woman who says things like "I don't know how to do that" when she is asked to do something she doesn't want to. But she says it about things she knows how to do and everyone has seen her do before in the past. She lies, she just isn't bright enough to be any good at it.
Imagine being the cop that was interviewing when she said ‘they said I was too pretty’ 😏😅
THAT part cracked me UP!!! 😂
I know.YECH!!!!!!!!
everybody keeps saying this, but honestly..... compared to the rest of this town and county, she damn sure isn't the worst
I loved Mikes response to that, it was funny and I little mean at the same time..... I still giggled though
I know it!! Her too pretty??!! YECH!!!!!
Officer knew something was wrong when she said “They said I was too pretty.” Imagine his face lmao
Lol!!!
Mike, my lad, my wife and I say "Hi Mike!" and "Bye Mike!" before and after every episode. We love your brogue, and the "tirdy trees," and your sense of timing and appropriate humor about such dark subjects. Keep up the great work!
Normally, the back story of a young disabled woman who had trouble making friends would absolutely tug at my heartstrings and make me feel some level of compassion. But in this case, no amount of childhood bullying or bad social skills can excuse what this woman did. And her parents are absolute fools for believing all of her lies.
"Then Bill and billie Jean did the unthinkable... They unfriended her on facebook... I'm getting chills lads."
"Unfriending" her had dire consequences.
Billy gen he's the one. Michael Jackson.
@Justin H. sorry I have a sense of humor you boomer
@Justin H. bro you look like you have children to tend to so stop commenting on a youtube comment and do something with your life instead of complaining about someone's humor on a quote that was funny at the time
@Justin H. it's funny that your a grown ass man arguing with a 16 year old about a comment he thought was funny you probably need to rethink your life choices, the sad part is I'm living in a million dollar house from my two hard working parents in their oil company keep talking bud I can do this all day 😘.
You should also rethink about vaping if you want to see your grandkids someday just saying because if that doesn't kill you then Corona will do it.
Can we take a moment to appreciate how fast he pumps these out
Ken Oath!
He's providing a public service during quarantine. God bless ye, Mike.
Truth, extremely talented, so glad to have found you Mike!
That's what she said
@Raccoon Make it tirty
My heart aches
for the little baby boy
who lost both parents, in such an incredibly horrific and so very senseless way. 😞
That Baby was not even one year old. If he came into a good home (was adopted) he would not remember anything of his real parents. I write from experience, I can't remember one thing I experienced in a home for small children. I was told many years later that I was one baby of 6 weeks, when they took me away from my mother.
His grandparents have him now
Yeah that's the sad part of this story. People THINK before doing anything crazy like this. Karma will be a bitch and someone innocent always gets hurt in the crossfire!!
Lil dexter
@@saramaxinerigotti6260in this case, all 3 were innocent. Both parents had purposely distanced themselves from Janelle because they thought she was crazy. They had no idea how right they were. RIP Bill and Billie. I truly hope the baby is doing well.
I’m half way through this video. My dad is a combat medic in Vietnam. He hates when I tell people that. He hates telling people he served, and he hates talking about anything that happened over there to anyone except my mom and me. Most people who know my dad, has no idea he served. Because of the way he was treated when he came home. He’ll never forget that. He still goes to VA regularly.
I wanna know if he really served or not. Because I don’t think he did.
💯🎯
"They did the unthinkable. They unfriended her on facebook"
Me: * horrified gasp*
A fate worse than death...
I couldn't imagine doing something so heartless and cruel!
Lol
Unforgivable!
I hate FB i deleted mine in Feb this year and haven't missed it at all
“I find it unlikely they’d say that” cut to Jenelle’s yellow teeth closeup 😂😆🤣lol you’re hilarious Mike!
The yellow teeth close up of The Pretty One got me laughing my CIA head off too.
I literally laughed out loud, Mike you are so funny sometimes! 😆🤣
that close-up scared me a little, I guess because she' s sooo pretty, it kind of takes your breath away!
@@TheElena1951 Yep
Nice name :)
This is still my favorite out of all these cases. I cannot believe anyone could be as flat out stupid as this family. It's actually terrifying.
There’s the Wagner’s 😮
What’s truly horrifying here is that - in comparison to a massive percentage of families out there - this family is on the more intelligent side. That’s how dumb the average family is in this world.
@@BootsORiley Certainly in this country.
@@BootsORiley Country, not world.
Yeah, it made me wonder if Buddy was one of McNamara's Morons -- low IQ men accepted or conscripted into the military to fight in Vietnam. Some were so stupid they couldn't be trusted to point their rifle the right way.
You never ask for a like or subscribe or try to peddle your merch to us and I think thats rare as hell these days..also think its cool that the merch was an absolute afterthought in this video. You always maintain so much respect for the victims. Love this channel
I wish I’d known about the CIA bully unit in middle school when a boy told me I had “orangutan arms” in P.E.
LOL! He was prolly jelly!
Same girl. Same. 💕
Man! The CIA woulda been on those punks like jelly on a donut
Yes. It really is completely preposterous
The CIA bully unit got replaced with the anti lunch money stealing, black OPS RICCO crime unit, until they all went rogue and shot the hall monitors. That sounds way more plausible than jennels defense team lol
"I get to shoot all the bad guys"
Jesus christ it's Jason Bourne
💀
@@backhurts11 Jason Bourne, it's Jesus Christ.
@@mikeroamsreddeer4858 Brilliant!
Also, I'm surprised there weren't emails to/from any Nigerian princes.
=)))
I suppose the Nigerian prince requested the president of the USA to order the protection of her by the CIA.
Oh boy I get those offers back in 2004
She’s a classic Fragile Narcissist. Always the victim even when faced with irrefutable evidence of her guilt. But let’s face it, that whole family was barely able to rub two brain cells together.
Janelle-"They said I was too pretty."
Mike-"I find it unlikely that they would say that."
Savage!!😂😂😭💀
🤣🤣🤣🤣
LMAOOOO
Yeah, she's hideous!
I would have loved to see the faces of the detectives when she referred to herself as "too pretty"
If I were the detective that was there I would have burst out laughing and said "yes that is quite a funny joke lololololol how does one aquire those pretty yellow teeth of yours?" she certainly is special 😳 just way to pretty 🤢
I woulda loled then went "oh, you're serious?"
@ScienceFraction cool
Prettyer
Lol.
Oh my gosh this poor family just living their lives with their little baby .
@Roscoe Patterson You sound like those inbreds that murdered them 🤷♂️🤦♂️
@@gigglesinside I'm preeeety sure he is joking when he wrote "they were asking for it", it's sarcastic, dark humor, you know, deliciously twisting facts because obviously that is what those imbeciles must have thought the ones who killed them, when they were not doing a damn thing to deserve what that lunatic schemed to do to their innocent lives.
Right? Imagine just living your life and starting a family, meanwhile completely clueless that a shitstorm is brewing in a fake world in someone else’s life and it’s going to extinguish a lot of your family. It’s really disturbing
Bill had turned his life around for the woman he loved, and made a life with her and their child, only for it all to come crashing down because of some jealous nutjob. Now that child will grow up without his parents, and probably with no memories of them since he was so young. Everything about their deaths is tragic and heartbreaking. 😥💔
Having bearly any clue this woman/child is building up an evil plot that will eventually lead to them being murdered. History is full of cases where whole towns, villages and counties went after and killed people over a childs lies.
I kept forgetting those were “Chris’s” notes and going this is a long St. Olaf story, Rose.🤣
I like how Janelle's parents kept telling her and everyone that she was mentally incapable of understanding her actions but all the while their brains weren't functioning at normal capacity. Side note, when they were talking about them being jealous of Janelle b/c she was pretty and then Mike showed an unflattering pic of her. I spit my juice out 🤣🤣
I know when Mike said I doubt it if they would say that I started laughing
Look at that mouth of hers...terrifying
“It was a quiet little town of about 10 people where nothing ever happened.”
Every murder ever.
Edit: Some people don’t understand over exaggeration when it is used as a mechanism for comedic purposes.
Yeah, except for the vast majority.
I live in New York City. I guess I’m safe.
It always baffles me at almost everyone ever murdered was bubbly,loved everyone, everyone loved them and would do anything for anybody. I have already written my own obituary. It says "she was such a bitch,I don't know how she wasn't killed years ago. Not one thing nice to say about her". I swear only nice lovely people are murdered so I don't think I will be a murder victim. LOL.
Jokes anyway cause things happen everywhere all the time. Never got why people say that sort of thing. What they mean is "things happen but we either don't know about it, ignore it, or hide it"
@@redheadwithafierytemper5668 that's because most nice people don't know how to say NO.
And don't nip it at the bud when shit starts to go wrong.
They think others are Like them and mean no harm.
That's basically how my mom is and how she NEARLY GOT KILLED.
I wonder how Tracy feels, being the one that introduced Jenelle to all of these people......
Lol, hate to have been her once the dust had settled on the case.
It's none of our business. Leave Tracy alone!
@@mariakelly90210 No one's bothering her? Its ok to muse out loud (or by typing) in response to a video - really, it is. 🙄
It's not Tracy's fault. She obviously had no idea this would all happen. No one would.
It doesn't matter because it's still not her fault. Everyone though Janelle was just a quiet nice girl.
OMG! I feel like I've been in a mental hospital during this episode!!! This is beyond crazy! It always surprises me how much time & energy some people put into resentment, retaliation, bitter revenge & hatred. Life is too short. Rise above hatred & remember living well is best revenge!! Karma can be a bitch! Thanks Mike. You never disappoint 💜👍🌻
16:48 "I work with some marines over seas's and do things with them and also go on walks and know what's going on there." we got a certified superspy over here
he did it all NCIS, CIA, IRS,KGB, the Stone cutter's, .America is safe because of him, and because the most important thing for all your security was to have all the government resources protecting this women. Oh wait.
@@davidrenton oh no no, you've misread, friend. He works with the nics. Far more important and elite than NCIS.
@@davidrenton Somebody forgot to send "Chris" the memo that since the fall of the Soviet Union the KGB is now called the FSB.
Watch out, 007!
@@davidrenton You forgot the Impossible Missions Force.
"mom I'm so bored, there's nothing to do"
" go outside and play"
"NO"
"ok, go on the computer and pretend you're a secret CIA agent"
"OH OK"
Can't imagine the horror of dying mother holding her baby in her arms, hoping he survives.
How ironic, the mum calls their future murder victim “satanic, mean and manipulative “
Like m’am..have you met your daughter?
Yeh just like Zanida Gonzales “zanny the nanny” is real and took Caylee Anthony.. people are insane
Trump's base in a nutshell.
@Robert Salley idiots
@Iso Gh0sted 😂
Pac West It's also prob b/c that's what she drugged poor Caylee w/ so she could go party some more, the POS that she was & still is!! You know what detectives always say: theirs always a little truth woven into their elaborate lies.
I read that she did have a babysitter by that name, so was completely cleared and then went on to sue Casey Anthony for defamation and won the case. So basically confirming that Casey lied yet again and still got away with it
Jenelle: they said I was too pretty
Mike: I find it unlikely they'd say that
Me: 💀🤣💀🤣💀🤣
Who could blame her, I mean being so incredibly pretty must have been exhausting and traumatizing 😐
She is truly an American hero, and I for one feel totally in her debt.
You would need that small arsenal just to protect her...🙄
You’re incredibly pretty 🥺
I'm happy for you that you don't have to suffer from that blight.
@@AlexanderSegura146 creep...
Mike is HILARIOUS!!! I love Mike, 10:45, his face has me ROTFL!!! Dude said "I don't think they would say that!!!"
I can’t believe these parents were so protective of their daughter because of her special needs when she appears to have them beat in regards to IQ.
Having "special needs" does not necessarily have any relationship with IQ; my brother is on the spectrum and has an exceptionally high IQ. Secondly, Jenelle did not have any neurological disorders- just an auditory processing disorder and some apparent mental illnesses
@@rose-yd9mn I am on the spectrum too. IQ was a poor term to indicate what I was trying to say, since I am well aware of the flaws in IQ as a measure. What I was trying to say is that the parents were defensive of her because they said she was….I don’t know exactly how to express this but they believed she wasn’t smart enough to not be in danger of exploitation , yet she was apparently more than capable of stringing them along.
Ahh no special needs here or dredging up sympathies to the evil idiots that destroyed a young family, they deserve all the heart ache that is generated by there pea sized minds.
I agree but when you think about it, it wouldn't be hard to do. She catfished them and there are still some older adults who are not as familiar with the online trickery of social media as their younger counterparts. Just being able to send emails probably made them feel technologically advanced. I just wish I could have seen the father's face when he found out his daughter had tricked him, and he had killed those innocent people (and was now serving two life sentences) for nothing.
@@rachelheney8471 You explained it very well.
When she said she was too pretty, and that picture of the teeth popped up..... I almost had a wreck😂😂😂
Don't watch youtube and drive!!!!!
And you weren't even driving... just taking a small TH-cam break as you vacuumed the inside of your new Trailhawk
Wants to point out how the parents incredible desire to have their biases confirmed and centered is reeeeeeally similar to stuff we're seeing present day on a grand scale.
It's pretty terrifying. We now have parents covering up murder for their "babies".
Absolutely agree, you've blown this right open
If this happened today Jenelle would send emails claiming to be Q (as in QAnon) instead of Chris and the rest would basically be identical, lmao
@@ByzantineDarkwraith True, the whole family would have been Qanon believers.
Sociopathy is nothing new.
The way I burst out laughing at “they said I was too pretty”😂😂 she is delusional
I feel like I was losing brain cells during that email reading. Lord have mercy. 😭
It was so hard to get through 😫
Highly trained Cia operative, yet could barely put a thought together. Can't believe her parents were dumb enough to believe that
It sounded like a Tom Clancy wannabe trying to write a novel.
Lol it was so believable!!!
I've learned to never trust an adult with a baby voice. I forgot how batshit this story was.
I'm an adult with a baby voice and oh man, I'm so ashmed of it thanks to stuff like this.
@Mandy McManus - SAME!! Creepy af 🤔😂
@@invisible3972 lol. Try doing an Elizabeth Holmes, a fake deep voice.
@@invisible3972 Same. It's the main reason I took up smoking in my 20's.
...And of course it didn't even f*cking work.
So true. Karla homolka. Bleugh
Omfg I LOST it when you said i doubt they would say that and flash a picture her. 😂😂
That was hilarious haha
Saaame
ME TOO!!!!!!!!!! 😂😆😂
You are the only one that covered this bizarre murder(s) that got it all correct. I have watched them all, the news, read the book. Thank you for being spot on. Jenelle obviously is insane as well.
Haha. Watching this on my porch, my neighbor peeks her head out her window and said "There's another That Chapter?" I may have a problem...
Hahaha!
r/thathappened
I think it’s all I’ve been watching lol
Why would you lie
This comment is everything hahah!!
That Chris, he sure is a fancy talker.
😂😂😂
"It looks like she was trying to get to her baby". Damn... That hurt my heart.
In the book about the case there was some talk of possibly taking out the baby. I think Jenelle very much wanted that.
@@jen30551 Can you share the book name? There was one sentence in the emails that mentioned killing the baby. At 20:00 in Barbara's email to Jenell- I mean Chris, she says "so if someone wants to bring it on, they will all die, including the baby." Curious if there were more references to that.
@@kelly_aldridge Its called "Too Pretty to Live: The Catfishing Murders of East Tennessee" by the prosecutor Dennis Brooks. You should definitely check it out! I found it to be a well written, compelling read. He includes a lot of the emails which are a trip to read. I dont recall if there was more spefically on her wanting the baby dead but I do recall it being pretty clear that she wasn't opposed to it! That mother is a the truly dangerous one in my opinion. I believe she was at least partly aware of what was happening and enjoyed it.
Those emails were just painful. An example of the American education system at its best!
“I find it unlikely they’d say that”.
Then flash the most horrendous picture of her with piss yellow teeth.
LOL! I seriously LOVE Mike.
Holy guacamole yes I was just about to say this. I laughed so hard I woke up my roommates.
😂😂😂
Alexis Fec 😁
😂😂😂
That was rude and not funny.
I'm a true crime/ paranormal junkie. Anything along those lines I'm into. Glitches in reality all that. When i first came across Mike i wasn't sold. But a year later I just clicked on a video and 3 weeks later I'm still binge watching. I even use your videos to fall asleep cause your voice is really cool. Guess nothing don't happen before its time 😂. Anyways blessings from Trinidad, in the Caribbean. 😊😊
Haha well thank you so much for watching the aul videos!
Exactly, the same....... mike has grown on me
I was hooked from the start! I've been watching Mike almost from the beginning. He was instantly my favorite channel and hundred of thousands of subscribers later, he's _still_ my favorite channel! By far!
Sane here
you fall asleep to stories about murder? These things give me enough nightmares as it is, I can't imagine literally falling asleep to them.
I have nightmares about walking down a dark alley and hearing the words "Hey you" delivered in an Irish brogue behind me. Love this channel.
That wouldn't be a nightmare. That would be a dream!!!