What happened to our Warhammer Pile of Shame?! 3 years later...
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My Girlfriend and I look at our Warhammer pile of shame. 3 years since our last video, we take a look at and see what has happened since we valued it. Warhammer and Gaming projects can very quickly become an issue.. why do we do it!
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Love this video. It’s like you have come full circle and now Clara has been corrupted too. 😆
2 1/2 years ago Ciara was glaring at Ollie for his pile of shame, now Ciara's pile of shame is as big as Ollie's if not bigger, the journey to hobbying is complete ... one of us, one of us, one of us lmao
3 years from now it will be Lilly's pile of shame to be add to that giant pile, and we all know that Ciara has no shame.
Haha. Passed on through the generations!
I have spoken about this in my own vids, and with other creators, but I don't put much truck in the whole "pile of shame" thing. I delight in purchasing things and am more than happy to leave them in the box until I get to them. For me it's a simple thing as I grew up poor and never had the money to be able to get what I wanted, and I didn't even really want to put the pressure on my parents to talk about what I might like. A lot of my models were proxies, and we were pretty much OG Poorhammer players.
Now, at 41, I shamelessly buy the things I wanted when I was 14. I'm good with it. lol
100%, well said. It's kind of the message I wanted to get across, initially.
Enjoy whatever you want to enjoy (if you can). I get some joy out of looking through stuff, planning projects and reading stories about the game. I will sell some, and I'd like to finish more, but it's been geat to see the progress throughout the past few years.
If you can do that responsibly that fine, in the end is a lot of people in this hobby its not responsible, its a strait addiction. I have seen people pull out more stuff than they could ever build and paint in years if they worked on it daily for hours. It starts to become clear that a lot of people have these issues and are addicted to purchasing/a compulsive hoarder. We all fall into these issues. I know I got way to much when I started. I am seriously tappering off my purchases to 1-2 things I really want and things I will work on within days of purchasing. Like right now I bought every KT box mostly because its limited and I love the game, I also buy the stuff for Aeronautica that tends to get printed once and never again like books and cards. After that I wont buy anything unless I am going to work on it right away.
Look that's a way of looking at it (same) but at some point a hobby collection starts to get so big that it starts to cost money in upkeep because you need to rent or own a house that will fit it all. It's a financial liability going into the pile, and eventually the pile itself becomes a financial liability. It's important to make yourself happy, but it's also important not to let it ruin you financially!
same here, I keep those boxes as decoration and inspiration, sometimes even buy them with no intention of painting.
This rings true EXACTLY my situation! Back in uni (c. 2000) I could only _dream_ of owning any Warhammer minis - let alone minis of _any_ range! Now I no longer visit GW stores to “window shop” - I am working from home in an office lined with Billy bookcases filled with AoS, WarHammer, and D&D books and models - most models still unbuilt and in their boxes. I have my own mini Warhammer store of my own now: _just for me_ - it helps with the impulse spending (although, admittedly, there _is_ still some space to fit some _more_ boxes)…
I treat it the same way I treat buying new books. It's the Umberto Eco concept, he owned thousands (tens of thousands) of books but died before he read them all, but the intent, the want to pursue the stories and knowledge in those books is what matters almost more than the completion of the books themselves, it shows a person strived to learn and feel more than he could in one lifetime, it's humanity and hope.
It's the same with models, the want to paint them and play with them and experience them is almost as important as actually painting and playing with them.
I actually love this. What a great way to look at it.
Thanks for that. I feel better, now, about my own (non-wargaming) stash!
not gonna lie this sounds completely like trying to put a virtuous spin on the want of satisfying dopamine hits of buying things.
i'm absolutely not shaming anyone, not what i'm here to do, but also it is absolutely worth some in the hobbyist collection sphere taking a deeper look at the mechanisms of action behind their behaviour. shame is bad, awareness is not
I'll use that to justify my lack of financial self-control and procrastination next time!
Brb, going to order another army for the pile!
It definitely feels like your pile is smaller than last time. You’ve given me some hope that I’ll be able to one day make a dent in mine!
Let's do it. GET OVER HERE!
My pile of shame is now called my pile of hope!
Sometimes the idea of an army is more interesting than the army actually turns out to be and I've learned to be at peace with that. The building and collecting an army is a bigger part of my hobby because I can't play as much as I used to
To help get through the pile of shame, you should put up a poll and let us force you to finish one thing from the pile of shame for a video.
Sadly my money goes on paying bills right now, the spare cash has dried up since everything started spiraling out of control regarding the cost of living. I've actually gone back to repaint a few forces as honestly it gives me a lot of joy.
I have plenty of armies since I've been collecting since the late 90s so I can't complain... When the paint runs out however that will be a dark day (hopefully things will turn around by then)...
Enjoy your hobby and make the most of your piles of shame... May the pool of choice never run dry.
Same here. I'm digging into my old piles because I don't have the money to keep up with the ever-increasing pace of new hobby releases. I also have stuff I've collected since the 90s. Seems like saving plastic for a rainy day is now paying off.
Same. Still using paint from the 1990s
Good thing I feel no shame. At least your pile came from intending to play. Mine comes from oooh I would like to paint one of those. I'm also the guy who thinks it's cheaper to just buy the box sets, knowing I only want a couple models.
I think you're making progress! Id love to see you paint up that pelennor fields stuff!
LoTR is definitely coming, especially with a new set on the way. 😀
This video actually makes me feel better that I'm not alone in my pile of shame! I wanted to finish some of the pile this summer and currently have 3 projects all being painted at the same time. Actually helps switching between models from different projects, it keeps it fresh!
What is most shameful is that Ollie didn't even talk about what of his pile of shame he finished in the last 3 years.
My tip for Ciara on the Orks is the following: place one minimum sized unit on your painting table and everytime you do any painting of any other miniatures you have to first paint all of a single color on those Orks first.
Example:
Day 1 "I'm going to paint miniature X today, but first I'll paint all of my Orks base skin color" - Ciara.
Day 2 "I'm painting miniature Y today, but first I'll paint all of the washes on my Orks skin" - Ciara
Day 3 "I'm painting miniature Z today, but first I'll paint all of the highlights on my Orks skin" - Ciara
Day 4 "I'm painting miniature A today, but first I'm going to paint all of my Orks leather bits. Oh look at how that skin is so beautifully done now!" - Ciara
I hope this inspires you to figure out a way to better tackle your pile of shame. As for Ollie... I hope this also helps to inspire you as well... but I'm beginning to wonder if you're a lost cause... currently. ;P
I've got loooadds of models and boxes around that I've bought. I don't think I can say I really regret any of it, even the stuff that's been sat for literally a decade. It's nice just to have them sometimes. Especially when things go out of production, suddenly some of those things are like a snapshot of hobby past.
Love the video and channel (You are a Dynamic Duo), makes me feel better about my pile of shame. its also made me stop buying a new pack of miniatures until i have finished my pile.
I really like your channel it shows the good and bad bits. I like how the 2 of you are so in to this hobby together now. You are the only people I watch on this hobby
Really enjoyed the banter and showcase of shame piles. Absolutely relatable, however I feel quite mentally boxed in looking at my pile of shame. The unbuilt models in particular I think I will never get round to assembling and painting. They piles also take up so much space, I probably spend more time moving them aside to get to other things than enjoying each beautifully sculpted model.
I recently bought a daylight lamp and a wet palette in a bid to motivate painting so fingers crossed. 😅
I just sold 80% of my unpainted models. It was harsh, but now I have cash to buy more models lol.
"I stepped on a Slanessh!" Welcome to Broadsword Wargaming.
The reason Ciara's shame scores are higher is that 30 years in the hobby gives you real perspective on how shameful things can get.
Looking at the pile of shame generated in three years.... Well that escalated quickly! 😅
"Are you even a 40k player if you don't have a box of Space Marines."
Agreed. Even when I got back into it after years and years, one of my first orders was some Deathwatch.
I am just about done with my pile, Killteam piles are never this intense to begin with but it still feels like a dream to open my cabinets and have basically nothing left to paint.
I will say I have always found it good to have like 1-3 projects that are planned/available but not your primary focus. It gives something to fall back on for a break, unexpected free time, and any other situation. Recently had no internet service for a week and I wish I had a model or army in need to work on. There is the other side of this though, where I do have models from many points of me dipping my toes into 40k in a variety of forms. Some Chaos Undivided, Dark Elves, Drukhari, and Genestealers all from over 15 years and none fully finished.
Been making a big dent in my pile, but went on holiday and only today picked up a brush. I had big plans on getting my 3rd and 4th armies to a playable point. Then I saw the previews for the GW battleforce Christmas boxes. That’s 3 more boxes that will be added to the pile ( Knights, Death Guard, and Tsons). I will convince myself they will get completed.
Very nice video. Hopefully you can do one Forge World fancy model a month, would love to see proper videos on them. A retrospective on some items like that Lumineth box years later. Some Lord of the Rings content would be nice because those movies were fun.
As a young teenager, I tried to get into Warhammer, but I couldn't really afford it. It used to take me ages to be able to buy a box of Tau Fire Warriors, even more for a Hammerhead. I stopped at some point 'cause it was taking too long. So when I got back into it, I swore to myself not to buy a new box until everything I previously bought was painted. And it worked so far :)
Collecting is part of the hobby too. As my LGS owner reminds me whenever I say, “ But I have so many to paint already…” then I take it to the checkout. Lol
Hahaha I don't feel so bad about my grey mountain now. Get those painted models either on display, In a foam case or magnetic storage box! :)
4:03 Ah, I see you've gotten a "head-start" on Ferrus Manus! Very lore friendly!
Jokes aside, this was a fun video to watch, and it does make me feel a bit better about my own pile of judgment. My wife got me a new Plagueburst Crawler for me to use on the tabletop for Valentines Day. It sat on my desk for a good two years before I finally managed to finish painting it. Alas, I stopped playing 40k, so never put it to good use. Oh well, at least it looks great on the display case!
i need to make a chart for my projects, otherwise the y got lost in the grind of daily life, and tournaments xD im now painting SO MANY THINGS, its way too much, hopefully i finish my new DG models for my league, then i can get on with... Holy shit, its so much @_@
Hilarious! The swigs of wine as a coping mechanism!
Necessary
A number of years ago I shrank my hobby to Space Hulk. Only have to produce 10 or 12 terminators for each 'army' and I can indulge my whims (army speaking) much more affordably.
My pile of shame is huge. I have an entire triple size KR case of AVP assembled but unpainted, just for starters. Let alone the 6 or 7 boxes of LOTR and the 9 KR cases of Tyranids (models are big, but not that many). I will get round to paintign all my necrons though, that I am sure of!
After watching this I can say I have accumulated quite the collection of projects as well over the couple years. Some things I have put into my hobby that have helped me get through some of the back log. 1. Oganization, have a system of what is new in box/ready to build, ready to prime, work in progress / ready to paint. 2. Have the models stored in a better storage system than sitting loose or in boxes and hidden, I use plastic containers from margrin, cream cheese, sour cream to store small or each individual projects that are built (conainters are washed out of course first), then also label what is inside. If it must be in a box leave it in the box it came in and mark what is inside such as new on spru and how many in the box 3. I created a Hobby goals list listing the projects I wanted to accomplish this year, caliing it the Year of Finishing Projects. The list started small with only what I think I can accomplish and as things get checked I added another to the list to keep the ball rolling. So far I have completed 10 projects, not all are starting from new, some are touch ups to models or finishing a painted model to add that final touches. that also makes me feel good about acomplishing something. I also have mixed in both small and large projects for balance. The other thing I have done specifically in 2022 is put a stop to buying big boxes unless I really want everything in it. Have fallen for the FOMO for that last couple previous years but now after developing a resistance to buying things it has helped control the collection. Lately I see the boxes and say oh that is cool I am fine waiting for the one thing in the box later down the road when it will come out on its own a few months later. On top of that I have been more looking at used on trade shops or facebook groups, some times ebay but always see the scalpers there more so. Hope this helps you guys and anyone else in the comments. Cheers.
My pile of shame is the ones i prainted when i first got started and didnt know i need to prime them first.
I'm almost done a commission for a friend of mine. 2 models are primes, 4 in WiP, and the other 40 something others are done. Can't wait for them to get to their new home
to be fair you own a miniature hobby store so you are really easily enabled to take home things you see in the shop.
Haha, that's true. I'm surprisingly strict.. ciara on the other hand. 😅
I have my own pile of shame and with a 3d printer it's getting bigger, but my biggest shame in the last couple of years was somehow losing some of my best painted stuff. I was forced to move mid pandemic (B*****d Money grabbing landlords) and put all my best stuff in a box. Somewhere in the 3 moves I had to make to get my own place I lost them, all I have now is the images on my Chromecast screensaver... keep sharing always good to see you both.
I pretty much only buy figures I want to paint so don't regret any of them, only my pace at getting through painting them (given I continue to buy more).
I just tired of looking at the boxes in the cabinets, so I went on a building spree in May, then gave myself until the end of August to paint everything to a decent tabletop standard. All that equaled to one cabinet cleared out and 3 still full of projects. So I ordered some more stuff to fill back up the empty cabinet so they all matched🤣🤣🤣
I make a list of 2-3k points at a time. I build and finish that 2-3k then expand in that faction or make a new 2-3k list for another.
So far have ~4K of Tau and ~5k of Necrons.
Thinking of either Sisters of Battle, Custodes or Craftworld as my third army.
I don’t buy extras of something or a new army until those points are done. Only exception is timed/exclusives.
I call mine the tower of ambition, framing helps a bit. I am currently where i need to paint more then 1 model a day if i want to finish them all before i pass the average life expectancy for my country and gender. I have not stopped buying models I have a dnd campaign im running comming up and suddenly i have no monsters that fit
(Compnative here :)) I found you guys back then when TH-cam recommended your pile of shame video to me. I've amassed a pretty good pile myself since then, haha
If you collect models from other manufacturers, the parts tend to be interchangeable (for example Frostgrave, Wargames Atlantic and many others) and also much much cheaper than GW stuff.
I have a collection but its only the boxed sets that falls into "shame" category. Everything else is ingredients for kitbashing. Also, a box of sprues will contain 4-6 identical sprues, so its easy enough to sell them on ebay or trade them with someone else.
My biggest hurtle has been grinding though things from Kickstarter. The value is amazing but its important to remember the time commitment you signed up for. That said, Kickstarter is great because it can give you many months to clear out a backlog before something new arrives and adds to your pile!
I've managed to work up a massive pile of minis only a handful of which are painted but most are built. As the cost of living increases I've scaled back my spending significantly. But it means I can switch out through various projects so when my mojo starts to wane I can refresh by doing something else. No shame in my pile.
I actually almost wet myself laughing that Ciara has ‘local idiot’ as her channel role
It's quite fitting! 🤣
It's funny y'all made this I was looking at my pile shame got rid of probably 4k points of necrons I was never going to do anything with and I have been painting my imperial guard like crazy
Pretty much did the same this year and identified the stuff that will never move on, may and then a definite yes. Unfortunately I've just replaced a lot of the will never happen with historical figures and other non-GW game systems. Would like to say that it's because I've been busy etc. however I'd be telling huge, massive fibs. My shame at all my projects is definitely a 10/10
I remember about a decade ago picking up the original Battlechest for World of Warcraft. At the time I was a naive, wet-behind-the-ears little nerd who was still trying to be cool and so felt a little embarrassed to be buying something that it seemed like so many people looked down upon for being too intensely geeky. I took the box to the counter and ended up having a lengthy conversation with the shop assistant, who was also a player. At the end of the conversation, he said "Have fun!", and with those two simple words, all of my reservations about whether or not I should've been buying the game just blew away; I realised then that I was buying it for the sole reason that it should've been bought - to have fun! Life is too short to worry about these things, and as long as you're not getting yourself into financial or emotional trouble by buying and enjoying them, why shouldn't you? It's nice to see this sentiment shared, and that people still see the hobby for what it's always been about - having a bloody good laugh!
Just put it on eBay, I figured out a while back if it ever leaves the hobby desk into a pile of shame they will never be finished.
Ciara has made admirable strides in contributing to the shared broadsword/elvenblood pile of potential for not too long in the hobby. Yes to pelennor fields painting
It shall be passed on through the generations. 😀
Well Olly and Ciara as I was meant to be moving houses to a swanky new location, started dismantling my man-cave and OMG what did I find that I thought I'd lost, boxes of Space Wolves (old style) never looked at , never touched and certainly never to be completed as Primarus took over with cooler models that I did complete. But now as it turns out I am not moving houses as she and I are finished, so now its what to do with all these boxes ?
Keep, sell or bin. That's my new rule (obviously I never bin or sell haha).
I am an advocate of paying forward... if a good deed is done to me I will do a good deed to two others. Turn the pile of shame into a charity or gift to local clubs schools etc. But will that cause more piles of shame to be created by recipients. As a person who started collecting Airfix figures back in the 1970s I had the strange determination to have all of available boxes... got a catch them all.
Yeah, if something can get someone into the hobby, i'm all for it. I would have been so happy as a kid if someone gave me some toys, so I think I'll do that with someone in store :)
I cannot throw stones at that pile, but dam dude, get a comb!
The models you do have painted look great.
The shame for me is looking at my brush collection. Generally I paint all of my grey plastic before buying more.. . The quality of my brush collection, well....I might as well be painting with a stick
Thank you for normalizing the mess of plastic burying me everytime I move flat
ONE OF US!
I started only buying things once I finish an Army its actually going really well. Got 2 armies done I then bought some HH.
Swigging wine direct from the bottle mid video. Very Keith Floyd
The Rock and Rollers of Warhammer. 😂
Probably went into the same pit as the kill team content.
I am so salty, I love the kill team stuff here, but I watched all of it. Pls make more.
That "do ya?!" was peak irish giving out... nice one
I haven't finished my 40k Orks yet, I have maybe 5000pts painted so far out of 12000pts. Started a Raptors army as a stop gap between painting the next 100 Ork boyz the colour scheme is easy so they'll get done really quick.
Just had a funny thought, when you stepped on you Slaanesh model, I had a picture of a mighty chaos god stepping on a smaller deamon. "Oops I nearly stepped on you." 😂😂😂
i have a rule because i used to be like this, i will never buy ANYTHING until i have nothing to paint, only exception is if i am building a list of tournies and then ill just buy everything i need, other than that i will force myself to look at good sales and stuff which pisses me off so i will force myself to paint or sell what i have that i havent painted, it forces me to get my ass in gear and stop procrastinating, take for instance i have a tau box i gotta finish.. i won it for a second place prize BUT i said i was gonna keep it, paint it and gift it to me sister, i saw a a HH box at my FLGS on sale for 150!!! but i refused to buy it so i make myself finish.. ill learn one day to stop being a lazy ass
Great video! Ciara's looking like a natural presenter too now
LOVE this vid. Nice to know that I am not the only one with the plastic crack addiction. Everything that I have that is not completed is now just money saved. Plastic that I purchased because I do wish to one day build and paint is money well spent. Tomorrow were I to purchase many of the models that I already have would often cost me as much at 100% more than what I paid for them. In most cases at least a 50% increase in cost over 2 years ago. So not pile of shame. These days a pile of savings. These days saving is important! Dollar doesn't buy what it used to.
That's very true.. the models are probably worth more now, in some mad way. I'd not thought of it that way before!
Pile of shame...I call that unlimited reserves.
Ferrus is appropriately headless...
haha, yes! Good eyes!
Love the pile of shame vids :) love the wine handle pull :)
0:43 the look on her face said she is shocked :D
Time for a shame painting stream!
I've never understood how people get to this point (I mean, obviously everyone has different tolerances and behaviors, so I get it on that level) because historically I always had less money than painting time. Then I bought some second-hand lots. That put me in a situation where I did have something you could call a pile of shame. It must be coming up to 10 years since that purchase now and I'm actually getting to the point where there are very few grey models left and even fewer unassembled. That said, I do have a box of daemonettes I doubt I'll ever do anything with. I bought them with the intention of painting in the contrast style (before contrast even became a thing). Never even got one painted because I realized I had no idea what colour scheme I wanted to use.
The primer is still setting up three years later for me
4:49 What’s the shame rate of drinking red wine straight from the bottle?
I love the video and your chanel, even is I am exclusively painting and playing in the Age of Sigmar. My motivation to get rid of my pile of shame: every time I play with an unpainted model I buy everyone at our community club a drink. Turns out that didn’t make me ‘the guy who only plays with painted models’ but rather ‘the guy who drinks a lot when he plays’.
Pile up your "Pile of Shame" as high as possible & it becomes your "Obelisk of Opportunity". 😎
I shall gaze upon its glory.
Keep only that which is useful, or that which is beautiful.
When i first collected as a kid i dont think i had a pile of shame because the fact i wasnt working yet meant i couldnt afford to buy tons at a time so everytime i bought something i painted it as soon as i got home. The second time i started collecting again last year i have bought so much stuff because i have a job to pay for it now but have a huge pile of shame because i dont have the time or energy to paint it as quickly as i can buy it
What storage case is Ciara using for the Slaanesh army? The one with the light blue trim?
I have 800points of CSM unpainted that I dont really want to do because I switched over to HH. Will probably break them/unassemble them for bits
I’d sell all that never will be finished.
Hmmm I have 15k of Necrons and I've only actually painted about 2k of that for a tournament a couple of years back! Shame!
To be fair they ARE built and playable, and some of them are even primed!!!
Get that Leadbelcher spray and nuln oil out! ha. It's hard to find the time and motivation sometimes.
I enjoyed the video hope u get to those models
What I take from the video?...My pile of shame is in better storage :D
Ohhh daaamn, I really need to get to some of it soon.
Those soul drinkers will look so good though! Get em finished!!! 🤣
Maybe paint one more Grey Knight and have a six person Kill Team. The rest can be sold off. Grey Knights are great and easy to play in Kill Team and you’re 80% there
I mean id gladly take the Lumineth since i want to start AoS :D
Great video guys, nice to see other people's piles of grey 😅
We all have our piles of shame. Love this video
The Imperial Knights would bug me the most- after all that work it looks like you could finish them in an hour or two.
Yeah, 100%. They're like my bug bear. I'm always moving around projects, but those and the space Marines are so closets complete. It does annoy me.
You guys have enough to make a warcraft used and other games, mini shop lol I have a bunch too .
My pile of shame consists od acolyte iconward, one and half squads of acolyte hybrids, one half painted squad of hybrid metamorfs and one lonely ahriman. Im pretty proud of myslef
Clearly it’s through everyones optimistic sense of completing things that companies such as GW get to sell so many different kits 😅
One of the drawbacks on this hobby is that at least for me, The purchase reward barley lasts as soon after you’ll realize you just added more to you back log 😅
unlike other conventional collecting hobbies, with every kit you purchase you basically git yourself into more work to do 😅
Its called pile of opportunity. Why would I be ashamed of stuff that brings me joy? I think the selfshaming in geek/nerd etc culture is actually a huge problem. We should as a community be much more self accepting, positive and assuring. Language is the key to that, as it is the operating system for our thinking. Having negative connotations al over the place on our hobby is harmfully for a lot of people regarding their mental health.
Think and speak positive about our hobby!
Yo they actually drinking wine from the bottle? Legend
Easy. Saves the washing up. Haha
Thank you , Broadsword .
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I’m in the UK and I’d be interested in the lumineth set?
You should sell the piles of shame that won't ever see the light of day like the Grey Knights, Lumineth and fishy people. It's a great way to secure funds for new projects...
I always aim to finish more than I buy every year. I’ve yet to succeed
whats the middle knight called the one with the mace?
Drinks wine from bottle like its an every day thing.