Awesome Watch! But What's The Name?
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One of the nicest new releases of the year so far, and actually really good value for the erm, Premium version. At least on pre-order anyway. Cheers, Jody
I think the name is "Prisencolinensinainciusol".
Ah, the Anglo-centric sphere, you gotta love them. I love how people who joyfully mispronounce Glashütte or Jaeger-LeCoultre get mad for an Italian word with actual meaning and easily translateable.
It,s an italian brand with an italian name. What's wrong with that? It's a city name. It's true you made mistake how to pronounce it, but it happens also with other swiss or german brands when you pronounce them wrong. One third of the world is not able to pronounce Lamborghini, but I think it's quite famous as well, uh?
This is a really beautiful and unique watch. I think integrated bracelets on divers are super cool. Way too thick though for the price. Should be 2mm thinner.
Boxes are overrated useless money waster, never use it, dust holders, space occupier why even bother and I am being modest :)
As forgettable as many other dime a dozen dive watches.
Cool watch, I like it a lot.
Why have they got the Letter J at the 4 indice ?
Maybe they are also Juventus fans...😀
For Jody
That's a stylized 4.. please. Lol.. if you can't see that, go do a brain scan
And S at the 5!)))
I’m italian speaking. I’d have a problem with the price tag, sure, but you review chinese brands. Are you really getting challenged by Officine Tecniche? cmon
Not my cup of tea but I wish them well.
Just because it's not English doesn't mean the branding is bad. It's an Italian name and the world doesn't revolve around English speaking countries. You don't make the same fuss with German brands. Would you know how to pronounce glashütte if it wasn't an historical brand? And watch TH-camrs still kinda mispronounce it.
Actually it kind of does, that’s why people learn English and it is spoken everywhere. Italian is not
But I can see the point you’re making about the watch names
@@jrbj2000 english is spoken everywhere only because britain and u.s.a. colonized the entire world. When the colonizator where the ancient romans, there was latin
@@Lanciarulesactually most places speak also English because English is made up of German Dutch polish all those combined. Which is also why people who speak English have an easier time recognizing words in those languages
Once colour variant is added, that's sixteen syllables. Too much!
@@LanciarulesLOL!
That is a beautiful watch (in grey) - but I can't afford it.
Officine tecniche pugnochiuso is bad but ferrari purosangue is good name? 😂
🤣
Ferrari has some horrible names.
@@_all_around_us every Italian products has orribile name, nobody buy for this. Officine Panerai for example.
This thing ain't no Ferrari...
@@jontptnor is a Purosangue.
A very beautiful watch! Initially I struggled with the numbers 1, 2, =, J?… Ohhhh 4!😵💫🤪😂 Pricey? Yeah. Aesthetically really eye catching. I guess us who buy will know if it’s worth the bucks!🤑
Very nice but they could have left the numerals off and just used the indices.
Great looking watch. Thanks for sharing.
Beautiful watch. A bit pricey. Difficult name. Excellent review. Thanks as always. Wearing my Ascent today while I’m working. 👍🏼. Snuck in a JOMW video during my break!
Interesting looking watches but I would rather have a WISE watch....
You would expect a Scotsman to be familiar with names that don't roll off the tongue. 😂
I like this channel because Jody reviews watches that I could realistically obtain and he has a wrist close in size to mine. However, whenever one of these microbrands pops up over $800, I always think that if I had that kind of disposable cash, I'd get a CWC quartz Navy Diver. $1300 and I'd look at Longines, Ball, maybe that Willard prospex. So yeah, the name matters to me. I can't help but think for those that it dosn't are probably buying this brand as I would buy a Steeldive 1970. It's all relative I suppose, but those people are probably watching other channels. Keep it up Jody.
I like brands leaning into their regionality. I'm a bit over Anglophonizing everything, to be honest. The watches look great, but a bit rich for my wallet. I owe myself an Ascent this Christmas (unless you tell me you have something with a day/date comp coming, Jodi, in which case, I'll save up any and all amounts).
LGP G100 should replace ALL sellita SW200 movements everywhere. There is no reason to have less than 2 full days of power reserve in 2024.
The name means 'closed fist' and a close pronunciation would be "punyo kyuso". Hope this helps 😁
Fwiw, pugnochiuso is a place in Puglia but also literally translates to "closed fist". Not sure whether this is explicitly what OT were going for but it could be considered as a nod to the communist salute. Officine Techniche can be translated as 'technical dispensary', which is also a weird name, but suits the vibe of those edges. I'm reminded of the IWC Ingineur
Expensive and I don't find the dial alluring and not a fan of fumé. I have no doubt it is exceptionally well made and really why bother paying another 200-300 Euros for much the same movement. Nice bracelet though.
Really quite like this one, original looking dial and beautifully made and balanced overall. I guess my main issue is that while the Swiss made one represents excellent value for money, it is just that bit too far beyond my budget, sadly. Whereas the Miyota powered model feels rather overpriced and is not nearly such good value in comparison, which I find kind of off putting; it needs to be about $100 less. As such, because I can't stretch to the one I'd actually like, I don't feel especially inclined to pay over the odds for the inferior one I'm less keen on. Not a great marketing strategy; I'll have to give it a miss. Shame really.
Pugno chiuso Is a beatyfull Place on the south of Italy in Puglia!
Sorry but I went straight to the link and I'm not buying it.
The LJP is just an improved Miyota 9015. "Swiss made, but Japan invented".
I was on the brink of buying this but having seen your video I‘ll pass on it. It does not look half as good as in the press shots on the website.
We’ve really appreciated the video from Jody, accurate and honest.
We undertand that name can be not intuitive, but the watch is just named AQUAS, while Pugnochiuso text, available just on the website, is used to refer to the top grade version of the collection.
Thanks for your feedback
@@LucaRobusto Kudos to you guys showing up here! Honestly the name does not bother me a bit. I like it and I find it a hilarious idea how a non-English name could be a potential reason not to buy the watch when there are renowned companies out there who don’t even care about naming their watches so the community gives them silly nicknames.
Mate you dodged a bullet. In my opinion This is not a good watch (for me). The zenith defy rip off dial the thickness and the crazy cost. I don't understand this watch at all.
If you can't pronounce the name, use the Net before recording your material and check it. ;)
Oh I did that. Didn't become instantly Italian, unfortunately.
I don't speak Italian either but the name seems perfectly sensible to me. I don't think they should change a thing. ☘
No problem with Italian, just too many syllables for me!
The purple one look 🔥🔥🔥
Good review and nice to see a microbrand heavily influenced by Zenith.
We really appreciate you retrieved the influence of Zenith Defy from ‘70.
3 line indexes are truly inspired by it, even if we needed to provide a much more contemporary personality to the timepiece. Thanks a lot for this comment
Not a fan of those hands
900E. ok....
Very cool 😎. Quite a different look IMO.
Thanks for the video Jody 👍
Fun fact the miyota 9000 series shares a lot of the architecture of the Le joux-Perret because Citizen/Miyota owns Le Joux Perret...
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For the price, it’s not doing it for me. Even at a significantly lower price, it’d still struggle
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It looks like too much of a mash up of too many different things. I wanted to say hot garbage, but that's too harsh. It's just boring and uninspired. Why should I give them my money? I'd rather buy an orient, Seiko, or used longines. That pricing is madness
Lots to like - especially with the Swiss variant 👌
I think your criticism of the branding is spot on. Naming a watch is like naming a dog: 1-3 sylables, 5 or so letters is optimal. Easier to remember and doesn't clutter the dial. The name "Rolex" wasn't chosen because of a historical or geographic connection, but because it pops and is memorable. This is Mad Men 101!
Aliexpress brand : Welly Merck diver 40mm, sapphire crystal, textured green dial, £42 uk. Worth a look , if you can live with the name
Beads of rice is my favorite bracelet style. Also, I really love the orange on that dial. Orange is quickly creeping up on my favorite dial color, olive green
Hello there. I Want to buy ORIGIN 41 White. Any chance for back in stock?
I like it a lot. Esp the unique seconds hand which you didn't talk a lot about Jody-- the little flag that provides a unique sweep but stays above the numerals and indices is really cool. And the square over the pinion is really unique. I'm tempted even though it's a no date. If it were $100 USD less for either id probably pull the trigger right away. Maybe I'll wait for the used market in 2025...
I stopped watching at the 3 minute mark. I hate it when Jody calls it a micro brand! It is a more elegant way to say an unknown brand from an unreputable watch maker! The Chinese watches on AliExpress with Miyota movement, they call them homage watches and when it's not from China and has a swiss movement, it becomes like magic a micro-brand charging over 600usd!!! Go figure. I say what the hell?!!! For that price I can get myself a good well known brand like Seiko and get into the prospect model at this price point. I don't care if the dial or the design is unique. You don't know where this brand will be in 10 years. Bankrupt or skyrocketing. My bet is bankruptcy for the challenge it takes to be up there with the bad boys. Right Jody, you must know something about the subject with your Erebus watches that are certainly well made and nice design but heck it is still an Erebus, a no name brand! I just looked at my Seiko watch wrist and it's time to leave!
Jody, this reminds me of the movie “John Rabe.” Good movie, important topic, good cast, horrible name. (And it’s my name!) Nobody knows what it is or how to say it. Branding matters! Keep it simple, sell watches.
Maybe these names were only invented to make Addiesdive sound, if not better, at least less worse...🤔🤯
Addiesdive will never not be the worst name for me, since Addie is a nickname for Adolf Hitler here in Germany. I really, really don't want a freaking Hitler diver on my wrist.
It is a place in South of italy
@@ccooper8785 oh come on. Addiesdive is a totally made up nonsense name while Pugnochiuso is not at all. If it does not make sense to *you*, that‘s not because of the name.
@@ulig12 Hate to break it to you but every name is made up; I am surprised you made it this far and still need to have that explained to you...🤣
@@ccooper8785 you thought your cocky insult sounded less arrogant when you deleted "darlin'" from it. It didn't. Boy oh boy.
Review is spot on. Bracelet is really good looking. Watches are pretty cool but will have a very stiff competition at 1500$.
How dare they!! Italians naming their company in their language giving anglos a bit of a hard time pronouncing a word in anything else then English…….
I've just received my black enamel Ascent. What a gorgeous watch! I like the box, too! I'm just not sure why there are spots for two watches in it - with my new GADA I am not able to think of any reason to take any other watch with me 😅
That fumé has a very steep gradient. On the thumbnail it looks like 2 concentric circles of black and white, and it's not much better close up.
If I'm honest, my biggest issue with the branding is "Aquas" - they've given it the same name as the only mainstream integrated bracelet dive watch on the market.
Which one is that? A search for "aquas" threw up no relevant results.
I kinda like Héron better. I think it's better looking and better value - they offer hardened case and bracelet for under $600
If only Tristano wasn’t selling off his collection for a constantly teased final grail, this would be the Capolavoro
Cracking watch, can't afford. Thanks Jody!
Where’s the I won’t review something I can’t say video. But I guess when it’s a freebie the rules change. 😂
Doesn't everyone pay the vat? I'm in the EU, can I side-step it?
Nice case and bracelet but the dial and hands are a complete mess, large batons, small ones some numerals and random stripes. Then they've forgotten the date, although to be fair there's nowhere to squeeze one in. At those prices Christopher Ward and pretty much all of the swatch group seems to have something to offer in competition.
I think it would look much better with all eight indices in a smaller size of those at 3, 6, 9 and 12.
i hate sand textured dials.would have preferred if those other indices were applied, fine if the numerals are painted on.. only ali is in my budget.
Technical Workshops is the brand?
Hi Jody, great review not a watch I would want don't like that dial at all , good look for those who buy it.
I'm Italian and the name literary means "closed hand" 🤜🏼👊🏼
At least it's not named after the Greek god of darkness and shadows.
😆
These watches remind me of Italian ice cream good enough to eat 😂
Doxa handset and beads or rice with a a blankpan bezel.
Get the la joux perret life is short its basically a 9 series blasted on steroids
I've not seen the numerals before minute 8. 😅
When I look at the dial I get oriental vibes.
That dial would give me a migraine.
All I can see now and want is a bag of liquorice all sorts 😊
The case shape reminds me of oris aquis
Love how it looks but the price on the model I'd be interested in? Kind of kills it for me (the purple one)
The Purple one, is the MIYOTA version, available for 480€ (+local taxes).
On the website shop it’s available with Cristalda name.
Thanks
Looks great. I'd have the orange one on a bracelet with the Miyota. Buuuuuttt...... As other commenters have said, it's too thick. Needs to be closer to 12mm
Hi, thanks for your comment.
Just to let you understand that the case is 10.9mm.
We move to 13.6 due to the very important DOME on the Sapphire.
It was a technical and stilyng decision to give a ‘70 approach to the timepiece.
Anyway, really thanks for your feedback.
It’s really important for us.
Shopping channel watch
Is that a new Bremont?
Excellent case finishing and bracelet design. I just think the dial is odd looking and not really a looker. Plus the price is getting silly. Maybe if they aimed at selling all with the 9 series and a bracelet with a strap option the price could be lower. Or maybe that’s just what I’d prefer. Anywho. Cool watch anyway.
The Miyota version is now 590€, or 480 without vat.
We are far from the average market😄
Anyway thanks for your feedback, it’s important for us
Seriously.....these look like hideous. Did they use the Citizen design or just chose the wrong week to stop sniffing glue ? How much did you say they were ?
😂😂😂😂
Discount Doxa! Woo hoo!
That seconds hand is pretty cool. It's fun to watch.
Very cool eh? Very 70s.
Yes
😊👍
Nice looking watch, and well done for being a bit unique looking. But I really would much rather the bezel be matte. Am I weird? Why does almost every new dive watch have glossy bezels these days?? I do believe they can do ceramic in matte too, no?
Hi, thanks for your question.
Matte is not a problem, we have in our collection both solutions. In AQUAS we opted for SAPPHIRE bezel insert, and not ceramic.
The reason is to have high quality with no standard colors like purple, yellow acid, deep green.
@@LucaRobusto Appreciate the reply. Is it possible to do a matte sapphire bezel? That would be cool.
I guess the watch models name is "Closed Fist", not sure what they are implying with that, but it is whatever. Very nice watch, and Jody, nice vid!
It is a sea place in Puglia, south of italy
@@Lanciarules Really!? Ok, but when I did the search for the translation, that is not what came up first. If it is, then great, thanks for the info! 👍
Im getting over the top Zelos design language vibes...kind of over thought out and more complicated visually, than it needs to be....
I noticed Erebus was listed on the brand list for Wind Up NYC… Will you be tending the booth one of those days?!
Hey mate! Steven and I will both be there all three days. Come say Hellooooo!
@@JustOneMoreWatch I will definitely stop by! Thanks, I know from previous experience, that flight is not short lol 🫣🫡
Also, leave the vegamite at home lol 😂
This watch especially the numerals definitely give off Atari vibes. Clever use of that T shirt.
Btw "Pugnochiuso" means "closed fist"
Yeah, i don't know where they are going with that either
Should’ve called it the Pugilist! 🥊 😵💫😂
It’s place bro, google it
@@andrewd7586 in this case it refers in a sea place in Puglia, south of italy
Awesome dial, case, and bracelet design 👍🏽
Aquas Pug no Chorizo
What...I can´t find the 20mm lug width? 🤔
Official Technique or just OTAP. Am not sure how to pronouce Heimdallr either.
Hi :-)
It’s Officine Tecniche (brand name) - Aquas (collection name)
Pugnochiuso is the color variant name. Thanks for asking
@@LucaRobusto Did you see the black letters underneath the orange AQUAS?
@@Horology_Report sorry for my misunderstanding. Pugnochiuso stands for the top grade version of the collection 😄
Closed fist in Italian
In this case it refers to a place in Puglia, in south of Italy
Nice watch, website says C1 lume which might explain why it isn't as good as expected..
Hi, it’s correct.
C1 grade A is much more intense, but less persistent. This was a technical design decision. Thanks a lot for the notification
@@LucaRobusto c3 would have been better
@@Lanciarules c3 is quite yellow at the light, while C1 is pure white.. This is the technical reason we opted for C1.
I hope you understand that behind every decision we put much effort for the best final result.
Anyway, thanks for your suggestion
nothing sucks more than a name that nobody knows how to pronounce. its worse than a 24 hour sub dial
Actually if you speak Italian you know how to pronounce it. Google translate pronouces it quite well
Learn italian instead of complaining
It’s quite pathetic to blame your own illiteracy on the manufacturer. It‘s not that hard to know some basic pronunciations outside of English.
@@Lanciarules learn english spaghetti breath
Nice, I really like the easy to read second hand !