Since I had a request for the Humble Grumble files (guess the name is sticking around!), I thought I'd pin a comment up here. Anyone who wants to take a stab at making/altering this nonsense build is free to do so. Zipped stl files can be located at: www.composerkristin.com/humblegrumble.html I'll come back to update if I change the location later. And... idk, link back to this vid if you make something/remix it? I'm seriously not precious about these files, though. Have at it everyone! :) UPDATE: Version 2 files are up at the link!
Your design would actually function if you added a bridge on the crank side of the wheel, and a nut near the tuners, such that the height of both allowed your string to just barely touch the wheel. You would also have to make the wheel perfectly round and perfectly centered on the axle. To function, your arrangement needs two ends between which the string can vibrate (these being the bridge and the nut) AND some third thing to make the string vibrate, normally a pick, or a bow, but in this case your wheel.
if you'd like to get it to make more of a droney sound rather than an 'Eeeeeek!!!!' then you need to use less rosin, and the main issue is definitely the pressure! The strings should lightly press the wheel, and shouldn't even really have a bend where the wheel is! If you are able to change anything to make that possible you may get some pleasant rustic droning notes out of it! Good luck :)
Ah... as a violin player, LESS rosin is definitely not my first instinct. :) I'll have to play around with it some more and see if I can do anything to make it sound a little better (besides my... um... creative solution). I can't remember anymore if I tried another octave lower to lessen the string pressure. Great tips! Thanks!
@@ComposerKristin that's string tension, not pressure! they are related but not the same, the issue is the equivalent of if you way over rosined your bow and then pressed as hard as you physically can onto your strings, and then pulled the bow slowly! the strings you have should work for your purposes, i would suggest either making the wheel smaller or making the bridge higher! something like that. If you want any suggestions or anything feel free to ask!
@@NicholasKonradsen Wheel could be lower and the same size for the same goal too... Edit: Her design has the strings anchored across the instrument linearly (spaced far apart). Violins and traditional 'Gurdies' have the strings anchored close together, more radially, on a tail piece. This affects how well it plays as well, as the strings experience a less even force across the bridge and wheel.
Yeah, I put together a UGears Hurdy Gurdy and had the same results. It was fun to put together and interesting to see how it all fits together, but at the end of the day its just a model not a real instrument. I have thought about trying to make my own, but havent had the time or space yet to do it, so I loved seeing your self made version as well.
In my opinion, you get a better sound out of your Ugears hurdy gurdy than those I have heard made by other people. I like the sound of the humble grumble. Usually, the wheel of a hurdy gurdy has the axle in the centre. Having it off centre, as you have, gives a sound that interests me. Personally, I would probably try to get a similar sound in a more controllable way by having a separate wheel that is for bending the string or by using a very low tension string so that the speed the wheel is turned makes a large difference to the pitch.
Interesting ideas. Yeah, my Humble Grumble... needs work, LOL. I may design something completely different using some of the lessons I've learned (err.. what not to do), but it definitely was a fun/ridiculous experiment. You gotta start somewhere! :)
UGears: Did you use the wax at all? If I remember correctly its basically there to help lubricate the gears and the main shaft for the wheel. Makes everything a lot smoother and helps the crank turn fairly easily. Still not the best Hurdy Gurdy in terms of sound despite a lot of other people saying it sounds better if you apply the rosin and tune it correctly. Not extremely horrible, but its very hard to get right and because the construction has all these gears, "sharp" angles rubbing against each other, and no real resonance chamber due to gaps and many small pieces in construction. Looks very, very cool though. I myself am tryin to get my hands on a Nerdy Gurdy kit. Looks good and sounds very passable if built correctly and tuned well.
I did use the wax, but it's clear it didn't help all that much. It's also one of those builds that you don't know if you're doing everything right until you're done, and at that point it'd be waaay to much of a pain to try and take it apart again. Oh well! :)
Your right it isn't really to play. It's crank shaft is made out of cheap breakable wood. as you stated very hard to crank. I bought one put it together, going by the instructions. Used the rosen and the wax it work for a while but the pressure on the shaft when trying to crank it, broke the shaft, I repaired it using some match sticks, Glue and som of the speared parts. Its just a model. It does still crank, bout the same as it did before. don't dare playing it because it might break again. The design does look beautiful. But I wouldn't concider it a actual musical instrument. I''ve found another model kit that is better, called "Nerdy Gurdy" It too has lazer cut parts but the shaft is metal and so is some of the parts. It also the actual size of a real Hurdy Gurdy too! Also if you can afford a CNC Machine for lazer cutting the parts out for you. there is a down loadable app, that lets you cut out the parts on your CNC Machine, to build your own Hurdy Gurdy.
I have spent a few years making hurdy gurdies, so if you wanted any advice (for example how to make a square wheel that works) I have a lot of things I could say.
Put like a ten-speed gearbox in that Humble Grumble and perhaps a couple of springs. Maybe inside have a rotating can filled with marbles or whatever. 😀👍🏼
Have you seen the Nerdy Gurdy on here? It seems a more substantial instrument than the Gears one while still being mad from high quality and thicker ply..
as a home-made gurdy maker myself i can attest it is a labor of love and trial and error. i would recommend a tagelharpa next, you'd do a good job with one and it'd be playable. I've made two from cigar boxes so far, the wine crate bass one is next.
Whelp, I had to look up what the heck a tagelharpa is... and it looks neat! So many cool instruments I didn't know about before. I have a feeling I'm going to end up with quite the collection of poorly constructed instruments pretty soon, haha. Thanks for the rec!
@@ComposerKristin Yep I'm running out of space lol...the cigar-box tagelharpa is a surprisingly easy build tho. I recommend using violin tuning pegs and fine tuners, and just buying a $25 psaltry bow for them.
Maybe mixing forward/backward motion can make the string sing better? Violin Bow motion is creating stick/slide to keep the string keep vibrting. Just my guessing.
I finished my uGears HG fairly recently... Having left it about half finished for several years... And was accepting of it's less than stellar sound. Though i have gotten it to improve by using the little wheel to lift the pressure off the wheel for the melody string. It also makes the crank easier to turn. It's for sue not a performance instrument, but tweaking for the best sounds possible can be done!
My experience with UGears was terrible : we received the parts without box or manual, some small pieces were missing. After finish, it looks very nice, but it is not functional
LOL, I made the same ugears hurdy gurdy a few years ago, and it sounded about the same. I reached out to the HG community to genuinely ask for advice on how to improve the sound and they said this was a toy (a joke) and can't compare to the real thing. Then a few nice hg players invited me over to their place to try out a real hg and what a difference it was. I also recently made a 3D printed violin! Looks like we worked on some similar projects!
I'm actually going to be releasing a video in about a week that I play around with this and a contact mic (plus other stuff). I definitely agree the actual box needs some development/evolvement/refinement (especially the darn crank design!), so it probably won't be the last time it makes an appearance. Thanks for hanging in there. :)
I found the bamboo drawers at Target so I can build a variation of your Humble Grumble. :D Do you have your prints up on printables or somewhere? They'd be useful for a starting point.
Oh wow, yeah that's where I got mine from. I don't have the files up anywhere at the moment. The build is janky enough it didn't occur to me that anyone would want them, LOL. I'm in the middle of editing a new vid I'm trying to get out in a day or two, but it's something I can look into when I finish that. Word of warning, though... they'll definitely need some modification.
Alrighty... here you go! I have my own server space, so I just zipped together all the files and threw them up there for the time being. I'm too lazy to explore all the different 3d print site options at the moment. Good luck!? www.composerkristin.com/humblegrumble.html
Did you eventually add the button key box on top to make musical notes? Nerdy Gurdy makes a good kit. but they're frickin expensive for the parts and material of the kit. If U-Gears can afford to Laser cut out a Hurdy Gurdy kit for under $100.00 . There is no reason, Nerdy Gurdy can't. They're both laser cut.
Nope. Just plays the 4 notes (badly), LOL. I'm not a hurdy player so it hasn't been a priority, but considering all the comments I've been getting about my silly hack job of a build... I might have to revisit at some point. :)
Since I had a request for the Humble Grumble files (guess the name is sticking around!), I thought I'd pin a comment up here. Anyone who wants to take a stab at making/altering this nonsense build is free to do so. Zipped stl files can be located at:
www.composerkristin.com/humblegrumble.html
I'll come back to update if I change the location later. And... idk, link back to this vid if you make something/remix it? I'm seriously not precious about these files, though. Have at it everyone! :)
UPDATE: Version 2 files are up at the link!
Your design would actually function if you added a bridge on the crank side of the wheel, and a nut near the tuners, such that the height of both allowed your string to just barely touch the wheel. You would also have to make the wheel perfectly round and perfectly centered on the axle. To function, your arrangement needs two ends between which the string can vibrate (these being the bridge and the nut) AND some third thing to make the string vibrate, normally a pick, or a bow, but in this case your wheel.
if you'd like to get it to make more of a droney sound rather than an 'Eeeeeek!!!!' then you need to use less rosin, and the main issue is definitely the pressure! The strings should lightly press the wheel, and shouldn't even really have a bend where the wheel is! If you are able to change anything to make that possible you may get some pleasant rustic droning notes out of it! Good luck :)
Ah... as a violin player, LESS rosin is definitely not my first instinct. :) I'll have to play around with it some more and see if I can do anything to make it sound a little better (besides my... um... creative solution). I can't remember anymore if I tried another octave lower to lessen the string pressure. Great tips! Thanks!
@@ComposerKristin that's string tension, not pressure! they are related but not the same, the issue is the equivalent of if you way over rosined your bow and then pressed as hard as you physically can onto your strings, and then pulled the bow slowly! the strings you have should work for your purposes, i would suggest either making the wheel smaller or making the bridge higher! something like that. If you want any suggestions or anything feel free to ask!
@@NicholasKonradsen Ah, I see what you're saying. Hmmm... could be another interesting project!
@@NicholasKonradsen Wheel could be lower and the same size for the same goal too...
Edit: Her design has the strings anchored across the instrument linearly (spaced far apart). Violins and traditional 'Gurdies' have the strings anchored close together, more radially, on a tail piece. This affects how well it plays as well, as the strings experience a less even force across the bridge and wheel.
Yeah, I put together a UGears Hurdy Gurdy and had the same results. It was fun to put together and interesting to see how it all fits together, but at the end of the day its just a model not a real instrument. I have thought about trying to make my own, but havent had the time or space yet to do it, so I loved seeing your self made version as well.
Perfect way to recreate white noice. Laughed all video. Thats funny, thanks for your effort.
It sounds like a horror movie about swarms of bees
If there's ever yet another remake of The Wicker Man, I'm all set. :) 🐝
In my opinion, you get a better sound out of your Ugears hurdy gurdy than those I have heard made by other people. I like the sound of the humble grumble. Usually, the wheel of a hurdy gurdy has the axle in the centre. Having it off centre, as you have, gives a sound that interests me. Personally, I would probably try to get a similar sound in a more controllable way by having a separate wheel that is for bending the string or by using a very low tension string so that the speed the wheel is turned makes a large difference to the pitch.
Interesting ideas. Yeah, my Humble Grumble... needs work, LOL. I may design something completely different using some of the lessons I've learned (err.. what not to do), but it definitely was a fun/ridiculous experiment. You gotta start somewhere! :)
UGears:
Did you use the wax at all? If I remember correctly its basically there to help lubricate the gears and the main shaft for the wheel. Makes everything a lot smoother and helps the crank turn fairly easily.
Still not the best Hurdy Gurdy in terms of sound despite a lot of other people saying it sounds better if you apply the rosin and tune it correctly. Not extremely horrible, but its very hard to get right and because the construction has all these gears, "sharp" angles rubbing against each other, and no real resonance chamber due to gaps and many small pieces in construction.
Looks very, very cool though.
I myself am tryin to get my hands on a Nerdy Gurdy kit. Looks good and sounds very passable if built correctly and tuned well.
I did use the wax, but it's clear it didn't help all that much. It's also one of those builds that you don't know if you're doing everything right until you're done, and at that point it'd be waaay to much of a pain to try and take it apart again. Oh well! :)
@@ComposerKristin I'm sorry it didn't turn out... I liked the video though. I especially liked your creative attempt at a hurdy gurdy "thing."
Your right it isn't really to play. It's crank shaft is made out of cheap breakable wood. as you stated very hard to crank. I bought one put it together, going by the instructions. Used the rosen and the wax it work for a while but the pressure on the shaft when trying to crank it, broke the shaft, I repaired it using some match sticks, Glue and som of the speared parts. Its just a model. It does still crank, bout the same as it did before. don't dare playing it because it might break again. The design does look beautiful. But I wouldn't concider it a actual musical instrument. I''ve found another model kit that is better, called "Nerdy Gurdy" It too has lazer cut parts but the shaft is metal and so is some of the parts. It also the actual size of a real Hurdy Gurdy too! Also if you can afford a CNC Machine for lazer cutting the parts out for you. there is a down loadable app, that lets you cut out the parts on your CNC Machine, to build your own Hurdy Gurdy.
Yeah, I'd definitely classify it as more of a fun arts and crafts project than anything else.
I have spent a few years making hurdy gurdies, so if you wanted any advice (for example how to make a square wheel that works) I have a lot of things I could say.
Laughed at square wheel, ngl.
@@heheollo651 , I've been thinking about it today. I ought to make a hurdy gurdy with a square wheel just for fun.
Put like a ten-speed gearbox in that Humble Grumble and perhaps a couple of springs. Maybe inside have a rotating can filled with marbles or whatever. 😀👍🏼
I honestly... don't hate these ideas, haha.
Have you seen the Nerdy Gurdy on here? It seems a more substantial instrument than the Gears one while still being mad from high quality and thicker ply..
I have! Amazing how much better they seem to sound. I should probably look closer at that construction of those and get some tips! :)
as a home-made gurdy maker myself i can attest it is a labor of love and trial and error. i would recommend a tagelharpa next, you'd do a good job with one and it'd be playable. I've made two from cigar boxes so far, the wine crate bass one is next.
Whelp, I had to look up what the heck a tagelharpa is... and it looks neat! So many cool instruments I didn't know about before. I have a feeling I'm going to end up with quite the collection of poorly constructed instruments pretty soon, haha. Thanks for the rec!
@@ComposerKristin Yep I'm running out of space lol...the cigar-box tagelharpa is a surprisingly easy build tho. I recommend using violin tuning pegs and fine tuners, and just buying a $25 psaltry bow for them.
Maybe mixing forward/backward motion can make the string sing better? Violin Bow motion is creating stick/slide to keep the string keep vibrting. Just my guessing.
I finished my uGears HG fairly recently... Having left it about half finished for several years... And was accepting of it's less than stellar sound. Though i have gotten it to improve by using the little wheel to lift the pressure off the wheel for the melody string. It also makes the crank easier to turn. It's for sue not a performance instrument, but tweaking for the best sounds possible can be done!
My experience with UGears was terrible : we received the parts without box or manual, some small pieces were missing. After finish, it looks very nice, but it is not functional
THE BEES!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL, I made the same ugears hurdy gurdy a few years ago, and it sounded about the same. I reached out to the HG community to genuinely ask for advice on how to improve the sound and they said this was a toy (a joke) and can't compare to the real thing. Then a few nice hg players invited me over to their place to try out a real hg and what a difference it was. I also recently made a 3D printed violin! Looks like we worked on some similar projects!
Niiice!
I'd love to see more development on that noise box!
I'm actually going to be releasing a video in about a week that I play around with this and a contact mic (plus other stuff). I definitely agree the actual box needs some development/evolvement/refinement (especially the darn crank design!), so it probably won't be the last time it makes an appearance. Thanks for hanging in there. :)
Funny video, and clever done - My Gurdy still in the box 🎼
You should crack that noisemaker out! :)
It sounds like a hole lot of old toy trains going around the Christmas tree 🤣 but great idea either way
This is hilarious ! :)
I found the bamboo drawers at Target so I can build a variation of your Humble Grumble. :D Do you have your prints up on printables or somewhere? They'd be useful for a starting point.
Oh wow, yeah that's where I got mine from. I don't have the files up anywhere at the moment. The build is janky enough it didn't occur to me that anyone would want them, LOL.
I'm in the middle of editing a new vid I'm trying to get out in a day or two, but it's something I can look into when I finish that. Word of warning, though... they'll definitely need some modification.
@@ComposerKristin Thanks that sounds great!
Alrighty... here you go! I have my own server space, so I just zipped together all the files and threw them up there for the time being. I'm too lazy to explore all the different 3d print site options at the moment. Good luck!?
www.composerkristin.com/humblegrumble.html
@@ComposerKristin Thank you!!
Did you eventually add the button key box on top to make musical notes? Nerdy Gurdy makes a good kit. but they're frickin expensive for the parts and material of the kit. If U-Gears can afford to Laser cut out a Hurdy Gurdy kit for under $100.00 . There is no reason, Nerdy Gurdy can't. They're both laser cut.
Nope. Just plays the 4 notes (badly), LOL. I'm not a hurdy player so it hasn't been a priority, but considering all the comments I've been getting about my silly hack job of a build... I might have to revisit at some point. :)
epic
The wheels are so noisy
Hahahaha I'm in tears with laughter, a great video and effort in making a noise box...sounds like a box of cats Hahahaha
I'll have you know, my cat is highly offended by this comparison. 😂
Keep the day job....This was funny af..
Lawnmower
You forgot to polish it
A cardboard hurdy gurdy, now?? 😄😄
POS: my car won’t start
😅😂😅