In Harm's Way Indecision

Indecision is a virus that will KILL an organization!

[@michaelfrommountains7669]

I'm 71 years old. My father was 82nd Airborne, WWII. I know Wayne, Fonda were actors. But my old man wasn't. And the 3 of them provided me with a moral code when I was a kid. God Bless them.

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

Wayne was a draft dodger.

[@Twister051]

@ James Richards - I call BS to your claim.

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

@@Twister051 Wayne openly admitted he refused to serve.

[@goober208]

wayne was 42 on dec 7

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

@@goober208 Wayne was 34 in 1941.
The US was already at war with Germany in 1940, as Admiral King had confirmed at the time.

[@lordscrewtape2897]

" just how far can I go in dealing with admiral Broderick sir....well you can't kill him"....great line...🤣

[@tflynn2400]

And everyone in the theater was disappointed.

[@Ralphieboy]

"He wasn't a bad leader because he made bad decisions, he was a bad leader because he made no decisions."

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

Reminds me of another saying:
"Show me a man who never made a bad decision and I'll show you a man who never MADE a decision!"

[@kevinmccarthy6981]

IMO, the best line in the movie was “We all know that the Navy’s never wrong, but in this case it was a little weak in being right.”

[@-.Steven]

Haha! Great line! As a Navy vet I recall the saying, "There's the right way. The wrong way, and the Navy way." 😂

[@colwilliamnoydb4134]

There was a special moment in my life, as a young 2nd Lt. My dad who had 2 stars was a regional commander. I was sitting in a tent, doing paper work. All officers and Staff NCO's. A Lt Col walked in and called us to attention. He is the one to be called attention to. We all jumped up. My name was called to come front and center. I jump up, put my blouse and cover on, and walk up front. It was my father, with his 2 shiny silver stars as a Maj Gen. I salute, and he leans over and kisses my forehead. I was embarrassed beyond belief. But he mellowed out from earlier in his life when my older brother got killed. Reminds me of Adm Torry coming to tell his son his fiance had killed herself. Great movie and acting.

[@chuckmoore871]

Beautiful, thanks for sharing a touching father son moment.

[@jockellis]

My son is a cop. I pulled into a convenience store and as I was walking in, he came out. I kissed him on the cheek. I think he turned a shade of red.

[@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195]

Thank you and your Father for your service. My Father was only 19 and faced the first Kamakazi at the battle of Leyte Gulf on a destroyer.

[@edb3877]

@@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 My father was a gunners mate on the heavy cruiser Augusta. He was quite a man and I always loved
and respected him. One day when I was in my mid-20s, we were visiting and he got this thoughtful look on his face. After a moment,
he said "I always wondered why you never tried to take me on". I was stunned. I never thought of doing any such thing but I later
found out that it was some sort of rite of passage for young men in their late teens for his and previous generations. I was bigger
than him and smart enough to know that he was tougher... a LOT tougher. Besides, even if I'd gotten in a few punches, I never
wanted to hurt my Dad. He passed back in '87 and my Mom back in '15. I miss them both daily and pray that one day we will
be together again.

[@Mike44460]

A great movie and not ONE "F" word.

[@danieldunlap4077]

Which is odd, because this is a navy film. In real life, the dialogue would have been a lot more colorful.

[@cjpreach]

No "F-Bombs?" Obviously Tarentino was not involved in the project. Maybe that's why it's worth watching. hehehe

[@jwdickinson643]

great movie? oh hell no….FANTASTIC movie!

[@jimmason1072]

Just one rape scene....no much by today's standards....

[@Backroad_Junkie]

Historically inaccurate, lol...

[@timbalistreri6012]

Awesome movie and one thing that makes it so is the great actors and the wonderful chemistry between them.....especially Wayne, Douglas and Meredith......wonderful

[@aprilmay578]

Henry Fonda is a world class actor. The guy with the dimple in his chin is also a good actor. That big goofy guy that played the admiral was the one actor who sucked in this movie; his acting is way too cheesy. He is a very bad actor.

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

Some folks call "In Harm's Way" a John Wayne movie, but it's not, not really. Certainly the Duke's the headliner but he's just one of an outstanding ensemble cast. Look at who's in this film and you can see they really called up Hollywood's "A-Team" of the time. Just superb casting.

[@deaneaton8105]

One of Wayne’s best performances - IMO his best movie in the 60’s.

[@user-ud3fr9ni6e]

I remmber the DRIVE IN where I SAW THIS! Years-years_____ YEARS:..... later---KIRK DOUGLAS ---- is A RAPIST,...she - THE NURSE ____ COMMITS - suicide! Such are the FORTUNES of WAR 'n' HOLLYWOOD to DESTROY,....... A MAGNIFICENT,...... portrayol of ---- U.S. WAR in THE PACIFIC ---U.S. NAVAL **** U.S. ARMED COMBAT **** HISTORY!

[@wezza60]

Henry Fonda as Adm Chester Nimitz, him and Burgess Meredith acually served in WW2 USN and USAAF respectively.

[@user-ud3fr9ni6e]

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[@NgaiOlaudah]

FONDA was so brilliantly simple and elegant and so makes this scene so simple with all that scene & movie setting verbiage.... typically great for a stage performer turned cinema star! we miss Henry Fonda!

[@paulpeterson4216]

Fonda was great. His southern accent was horrible, and worse, no southerner would have looked to Lincoln or Grant as their role models. At least he didn't suggest that Wayne act like Sherman.

[@NgaiOlaudah]

@@paulpeterson4216 Hey, you... now, where do I begin? Your understanding of both history and human beings is resplendently ABSENT in this little stupid exegesis of yours. Plenty of Southerners, especially poor white men and women ALIGNED themselves with black slaves in slave revolts. There may have been universal disdain for Sherman (I am so glad he created scorched earth of Atlanta! & cut a swathe of destruction sixty miles wide on his way to Savannah!) but not for Grant or even for Lincoln both of whom did much to return stability to that Cradle Of Ignorance - the hapless backward American Southern States which also includes Texas! Where the poor white man and the black worked together as partners there was political unanimity and stability. Fonda's accent for won't of a better description is both light and reminds me of educated gentle and genteel, courteous, but gritty, Southern American aristocracy. At least you said... Henry Fonda was "great." Well, I am an actor with an Emmy and you have no idea how great Fonda really was... au revoir ...

[@sabrecatsmiladon7380]

@Leo Peridot He didnt say "Y'all" once so you know he's a fake!
Maybe some BBQ stains on his uni.....

[@kristianmurphy4308]

Admiral Nimitz was from the Midwest, not the South. And, he was a cool, calm leader.

[@nstix2009xitsn]

@@NgaiOlaudah Well, aren't you a pompous ass! Your "history" is garbage. I don't know if you won an Emmy--under what name?--but that's irrelevant.

[@thelastjohnwayne]

What a great scene. These were great actors much better than Hollywood has had in decades.

[@martystrasinger3801]

I think we have a few great actors, it decent writers we lack! But I get the idea, the trio of actors in this scene are giants of their profession.

[@aprilmay578]

Henry Fonda is a world class actor. The big guy on the left sucks as an actor and the short guy didn't have many lines to say.

[@yadayada9581]

@@aprilmay578
I disagree, I think the big guy on the left is pretty good.

[@natureboy1313]

​@@aprilmay578John Wayne was a world class actor. Henry Fonda was just an awful actor.

[@B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont]

@@natureboy1313 He always made a good Chester Nimitz.

[@bcask61]

One of my all-time favorites. A bit of a soap opera and not based on real events, but the performances from Wayne, Douglas, and Burgess Meredith make it a great film.

[@odysseusrex5908]

Actually, it's kind of yes and no in terms of being based on real events. The story and its characters are complete fiction, but almost every incident in the movie (and the book) is based on some real event sometime during the war. The USS Indianapolis was torpedoed, late in the war, because it wasn't zigzagging. Lieutenant John Kennedy and his men were stranded on an island after their boat was sunk. The Japanese unexpectedly withdrew from an island before being attacked in the Aleutians. A superior Japanese fleet, threatening a bridgehead, retreated from a smaller American force at Leyte Gulf. Outnumbered and underequipped American forces conducted an offensive to seize a strategically important island group in the Solomons. The author of the book was a naval veteran of the war and drew upon his knowledge, taking various disparate events to create a single narrative.

[@coleparker]

Actually it is somewhat based on the Guadacanal campaign. Broderick's character is close to Admiral Ghormley.

[@teller1290]

@@coleparker but then they throw in that Leyte-type action at the end.

[@coleparker]

@@teller1290 Interesting. I can see it, but originally I thought the battle scene was more in line with Daniel Callahan's First Naval Battle at Guadacanal.

[@teller1290]

@@coleparker wasn't that Savo Sound...where the four CAs were lost - or another battle?

[@georgegravette1132]

No matter how many times I watch this scene, there's always a point where I'm startled to realize these are the same two actors from Fort Apache, but portraying an entirely different dynamic. Great actors.

[@ser010267]

What effect a different director will have those who worked together before

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

They were both too old.

[@stuartkidney3257]

Great history lesson about McClellan - appropriate!

[@sg-yq8pm]

@@JamesRichards-mj9kw They were portraying characters based on Nimitz and Halsey, they were around the same age, you'll have to find something else to be a negative pain in the arse about.

[@JamesRichards-mj9kw]

@@sg-yq8pm This boring film flopped because it was just an overlong rip-off of "From Here to Eternity" with an elderly cast.

[@loudguitar]

One of my all-time favorite movies. Saw it with my father back in the 60s. He was a Navy man who served on destroyers in the South Pacific during WWII. The surface battle depicted here is sort of like the Battle of Leyte Gulf. Great dialogue and casting. "Old Rock of Ages...Looks like we've got ourselves another war! A gut busting' mother lovin' Navy war!" "It does seem to shape up that way Commander Eddington." Given some of what my father went through out there, it's a miracle that I am sitting here typing this.

[@timfremstad3434]

I love the movie, can't stand edington.....he had two blatantly stupid lines, when they stop zig zagging "Rock, you just threw the book away".....uh yeah, and after a heavy bridge hatch swings closed and breaks his arm....." In case you don't know it, that arm's busted".......well no s^^t Sherlock

[@davidwise1302]

When I made Chief Petty Officer, I saw to it that I was pinned with my father's anchors.

[@deansapp4635]

Thank you for your service !!!

[@sean_connors]

Duty, Honor, Country. I know your old man was proud.

[@lukeskywalker2116]

We need more men like you.

[@dciccantelli]

Thanks to you & your father for your service !

[@deansapp4635]

@@dciccantelli Dave thanks, However i did not serve but i help in other ways.

[@troy9477]

Excellent film. One of my favorites. Always loved Henry Fonda. And of course he played Adm Nimitz in Midway as well.

[@Mister_Pedantic]

I watched Midway (1976) a few years before I saw this one. I was intrigued by how Mr Fonda played Adm Nimitz differently in the two films. What do you think?

[@adamwsaxe]

Midway, his best role. Though perhaps tied with Mr. Roberts and On Golden Pond.

[@LordZontar]

Well, Fonda's effectively playing Nimitz in this movie as well, only the Admiral's name is never referred to and he's listed in the credits only as "CINCPAC II", but we all know who THAT is.

[@troy9477]

@@LordZontar - Yep. Just rewatched my DVD a couple of eks ago. Henry is one of my favorites. I think he played the President at least twice too- Fail Safe and another one i can't remember. He always played characters of a certain innate morality and goodness- until Once Upon A Time In The West. That opening sequence where he is revealed as the villain really floored a lot of people.

[@markmcdonagh4498]

@@troy9477 Fonda played President in Meteor; he also played Abe Lincoln in Young Mister Lincoln, but that movie was set before Lincoln was President.

[@HAL--ov4qu]

This is an awesome movie and talk about an all star cast! John Wayne, Henry Fonda, Kirk Douglas, Burgess Meredith. Back when Hollywood still had some class.

[@ernesthill4017]

Love your avatar, lol

[@OldMovieFan1973]

Don't forget Robert Mitchem in the beginning.

[@HAL--ov4qu]

@@OldMovieFan1973Also Carol Oconner aka Archie Bunker lol

[@OldMovieFan1973]

@HAL--ov4qu that's right He played the Captain on the Heavy Cruiser after John Wayne

[@marksheiman1538]

Aka​@@HAL--ov4quAKA Mr Burke.

[@deaneaton8105]

Fonda and Wayne together again after 17 years…
Even though they were political opposites, acting was in their blood and they always had a special chemistry.

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

Right, they differed politcally but never let it affect their friendship and mutual respect. Same with Fonda and Jimmy Stewart. They left the politics at the "front door" and got on with the job.

[@chuckyoder5765]

One of my all time favorites , " In Harm's Way " !!!
Top notch cast and direction !!!
When The Rock's son finally realizes his father is one helluva Navy man , it makes the movie !!!

[@robertcruz6974]

I am old now but I love movies like this. I am sorry most of these actors are dead now. Thanks for posting.

[@teller1290]

Hang in there, sir. We need movie lovers and patriots of quality.

[@chuckwagon5518]

There's more acting talent in this scene than in all of hollyweird in the last 20 years or so.

[@rcknross]

omg, what an observation -- more than just a cowboy -- the heart of american patriotism

[@MichaelLee-dt1iw]

Why do you think that is? BTW just saw this for the first time. Never saw the whole movie before.....gonna have to track it down.

[@billvetter5328]

Well said, sir...

[@edmonddantes3640]

@Leo Peridot Adults are talking , go back to the children's videos.

[@edmonddantes3640]

@Leo Peridot Gawd, you are so tough talking in your anonymity.

[@berniejacque4544]

Burgess Meridith is no slouch either, a great actor who is very talented. Quite a cast in this war film. In my opinion one of the best movies about the war in the Pacific.

[@amadeusamwater]

Burgess was quite the actor when you consider that could be a military officer and the Penguin on Batman.

[@b42baritone]

I've heard that John Wayne and Henry Fonda never talked about politics when they were together. Complete opposite. But they were great friends.

[@markharrison2544]

They weren't great friends.

[@myroseaccount]

Fonda's daughter never understood how her old man could friends with Duke as their politics were so far apart.

[@jeffstanley4593]

I have disowned good friends, even "friends with benefits" for choosing the wrong side.

[@jmstowe]

Same thing with BGen Jimmy Stewart.

[@yadayada9581]

Jeff Stanley Thats sad.

[@thewiseoldherper7047]

Great scene but they took some liberties when they described Grant as “not caring about organization”. Grant was quartermaster of the army that invaded Mexico in 1846. His organizational ability was one of the things that made him great in the Civil War.

[@iambiggus]

Grant was known as tenacious, fearless, and determined. He was known for a lot of great things, but his organizational prowess doesn't seem to be one of them. In fact, a lot of his success stems from his determination to flat out ignore the fog of war.
Sherman remarked on it.
“I am a damned sight smarter man than Grant; I know a great deal more about war, military history, strategy, and grand tactics than he does; I know more about organization, supply, and administration and about everything else than he does; but I’ll tell you where he beats me and where he beats the world. He don’t care a damn for what the enemy does out of his sight, but it scares me like hell!”

[@TEGRULZ]

​@@iambiggus I think Grant also excelled in the moment and I think he wasn't a bad campaign strategy man either, he didn't always get it right, in fact his lead up to Vicksburg was a slog and struggle, but he refused to quit, and once he got below Vicksburg, he was unstoppable for maneuvering, and honestly, he managed to keep the Vicksburg garrison pinned while turning around and facing off an enemy army at the same time. That's superb Generalship.

[@iambiggus]

@@TEGRULZ He was the right man at the right time for the right job, without a doubt.

[@melvincunningham5660]

Quite correct

[@Laceykat66]

Never sacrifice a good line for the sake of accuracy.

[@timkellyD2R]

Not just an A-List cast but directed and produced by the great Otto Preminger.

[@FCSchaefer]

It's amazing, considering the cast, but this movie has been almost forgotten today, even die hard cinema buffs have never heard of it. Which is a shame, because it is quite good, with great performances by John Wayne, Kirk Douglas and Patricia Neal.

[@Shadowman4710]

I've never forgotten it. One of Wayne's better films.

[@dorothycoker8830]

FC Schaeffer I very hope like this movie. It has been on TV many times.

[@jubalcalif9100]

Well said and well put ! I notice that TCM (Turner Classic Movies) seems to show it every few months or so. Thanks for your insightful comment !!

[@markharrison2544]

It was an awful rip-off of "From Here to Eternity". Wayne was too old to play a captain.

[@theeasybeats5913]

Was John Wayne's last B & W movie

[@airforceveteran71]

Reserve officers give me hay fever...great line.

[@ictpilot]

He just payed him a high compliment.

[@johnblecker4206]

In Harm's Way was one of the best early battle movies that I enjoyed from day one.

[@freedomtrucker2332]

One of my all time favorites ..I watch this at least once a year ..every year ..

[@dougalexander5871]

“Reserve officers give me hay fever.”
“Thank you, sir!”

[@paulpeterson4216]

Oh to see Burgess Meredith with a cigarette holder in this movie. Truly a great film.

[@randyallen8440]

my grandfather served in world war 2 on the USS Coral Sea in the Coral Sea conflict in world war II for freedoms and rights God rest his soul heaven his name was Audi brundage chief petty officer respected highly and loved by all under his command

[@TheStuport]

Salute To your Grandfather! My Dad was a 30 yr Pilot in the USAF....saw action in Korea and had multiple year tour tours in Vietnam....He would not talk much about his service other than to say "The Men around Him made his Service to Our Country Fulfilling" I'm positive he was speaking of ALL The Audi Brundage's in Our Armed forces! Cheers Randy

[@egosumhomovespertilionem]

@Randy: I think you have confused your U.S. Navy aircraft carriers. The U.S.S. Coral Sea was not present at the Battle of the Coral Sea in 1942. The U.S.S. Lexington (CV-2) and Yorktown (CV-5) were both present at the battle, with Lexington being severely damaged and subsequently scuttled. The U.S.S. Coral Sea was not launched until 1946 and commissioned in 1947.

[@rgrinnel]

@@egosumhomovespertilionem Oops?

[@Lonette]

"Some smart man once said that on the most exalted throne in the world we are seated on nothing but our own arse." Great line in the movie. I wonder if it could have been humorist Will Rogers who was the smart man that the CINCPAC commander was referring to. Rogers died in 1935 and Torrey's promotion to rear admiral takes place in 1942.

[@Thneed2003]

Wendell Mayes, I admit, I looked it up.

[@dennismasel206]

No, it was Frenchman, Michel de Montaigne

[@kenmaurer4743]

Mark Twain 🤔

[@JohnDoe-lc9yj]

George Santos

[@karljohanlea5564]

You can't kill 'em. Best line in the movie.

[@HartDoug]

I remember this scene from the movie... the Admiral (Henry Fonda), “Indecision is a virus that can sweep through and destroy an army or even it’s will to win...”’ We saw this in Vietnam (where it seemed everything had to be ‘approved’ by Washington)...

[@bobgriffith1810]

Douglas Hart
Yes sir that's correct,, but the strategy in Vietnam was flawed,, we feared expanding the conflict and thus lost our ability to cut the head off the snake.

[@HartDoug]

@@bobgriffith1810 That is, I think, correct; in Vietnam as it was in Korea... What? 10 or 15 years before. We should never (in my opinion) have become involved in either war (or conflict) if we weren’t going to fight to the conclusion!

[@nstix2009xitsn]

Douglas Hart Johnson saddled our men with rules of engagement, such that we could never fight to win.

[@HartDoug]

@@nstix2009xitsn, No argument from me...

[@douglasmiller8607]

"Approved by Washington" yeah. LBJ was nothing more than an armchair "general" or so he believed. Veteran groups were trying to get the Silver Star revoked that he did not earn.

[@WornoutRNPARAMEDIC]

I don't know what goes into the picking of what movies get played on movie channels, but this is a great one. One of the best by all the leading players. Would love to see it again.

[@coleparker]

Saw this movie when it came out. One of my favorites.

[@rickhibdon11]

me too.. Still love it!

[@allanh2687]

Two of the best actors ever, John Wayne and Henry Fonda.

[@LordZontar]

The two naval heroes in the portraits on either side of the battleship painting in "CINCPAC II's" office are John Paul-Jones (left) and Stephen Decatur (right).

[@chiefjoe528]

Great movie that you can’t get tired of.

[@jamesalexander5623]

I Love this Film and the Acting Cast is Excellent .... And it always Reminds me that Otto Preminger made some Damn Great Movies!

[@lawrencesullivan3307]

"you're going to be my Grant" says it all.

[@wrwhiteal]

Lawrence Sullivan
Grant was a lifetime drunk, a serial failure who achieved rank because he was the first general Lincoln found who totally lacked morality or compunction about killing fellow Americans.
Grant committed & ordered war crimes against Southern civilians, wanton looting, arson, theft like Sherman’s March of destruction to the sea.
Grant’s presidency was marked by fraud, mid-management, crony theft..

[@leoortkras1102]

@@wrwhiteal that's a lie

[@leoortkras1102]

@@wrwhiteal you ought to watch the series Grant get your facts straight you f****** moron

[@greentriumph1643]

@@wrwhiteal Writing this about Grant somehow make you feel better. Psychologically very interesting.

[@paulspears715]

your'e a fucking idiot

[@jeffjames4064]

Hell of a movie from beginning to the end. The actors are peerless.

[@joefaber1381]

One of Dukes best movies. So few have seen it. That is a shame.

[@archerpiperii2690]

It is a great movie, have watched it many times over the years.

[@jec1ny]

I saw it once many years ago. I'd like to again but can't find it anywhere that won't cost me money.

[@joefaber1381]

@@jec1ny I got my copy at Walmart for $5 as a two movie set several years ago.

[@light9999]

I've watched this or parts of it almost every year on some TV channel for the last 40 years. It does have great performances from some Hollywood greats and is always a pleasure to watch even individual scenes from. It does seem to always be in the rotation of classics where ever old movies are shown on cable. I'm not so sure it's unseen, except for the newer humans among us who won't watch anything they don't understand - like history, quality acting, or quality storytelling.

[@richardslack8873]

I have on DVR like to watch around veteran day and the the 4th of July

[@paulrivalto1974]

This scene in this movie is quite possibly, at least for me, The most well acted scene in movie history. Wayne & Fonda & Meredith are superb in how they complimented each other in the acting out of this scene. The scene draws us in and gives us a line of sight seldom revealed to us as movie goers. The human factor of all things is on display here. Then just as this movie showed us as well as history records, the human condition is fragile at best, then decisions made, often in trying conditions, give us historic accounts of humans overcoming adversity and often times, certain death! Thank you John Wayne, Henry Fonda & Burgess Meredith for this glimpse into the human condition.

[@paulpeterson4216]

The only quibble I have with this scene is that Fonda, playing a southerner, would be referencing Lincoln and Grant as the role models.

[@paulrivalto1974]

@@paulpeterson4216 - Fonda is just acting the part w/ the lines given him. The lines he speaks are historically accurate! And pertinent to the scene! Makes no difference if he is playing a southern gentleman or a northern gentleman. He is acting a part and very well I might ad! Then yes..... I am from the deep South. My family were and are all from the South as well!

[@cmalberts]

Even the portrait of John Paul Jones is perfectly framed in this scene between Meredith and Fonda, almost making Jones a participant in the meeting--which is appropriate, since the film's title comes from a Jones quote, and going in harm's way without indecision is exactly what is being discussed.

[@sordello51]

I love this film! It was done in monochrome and the effects were awful. It was about the story and not to dazzle with effects. Awesomeness!

[@robertf3479]

Excellent story. This movie couldn't include everything from the book but did pretty well nonetheless. Loved Burgess Meredith as Commander Powell, the intel guy. The entire cast work well together.

[@abevillanueva1974]

What a great trio of heavyweight actors in that short scene!

[@blessOTMA]

The level of acting these three men turn in here, makes me want to cry .😍😲😍

[@jimmyfischbeck9872]

Some heavy hitters in that scene!

[@d1bigshifter737]

The Penguin

[@retroray58warby98]

Three great actors showing how it’s done in one small scene. Vale the ‘Duke’, Hank Fonda and Burgess Meredith.

[@GumbysClay53]

The quintessential war movie…magnificent cast, world class director in Preminger, story capturing the futility, excitement, and human tragedy of WW2. Never get tired of this movie.

[@vernpascal1531]

Right. There's a Beauty to this, along with the stark realism, that you don't see in other WW 2 themed Movies. Could never be remade. You could but would the Actors and Actresses be as strong as the Duke,Douglas,O'Neal,Fonda,Meredith, DeWilde? Hell No! Would a remake capture the Atmosphere? Hell No!

[@jackbuckley7816]

@@vernpascal1531 I couldn't agree with you more. Aside from remaking this film in color, of course, the character development just wouldn't be there, only superficial at best. Emphasis would be on CGI effects, which usually look phony to me anyway. I'm not sure why but I can always spot them. Perhaps over-familiarity with such effects, plus seeing too many behind-the-scenes docs on how they're done, etc., has much-reduced CGI's once-stunning realism. Then there's both good & poor CGI, depending on budgets. When done capably with no expense spared, better, more convincing but still obvious fakery; when done badly/cheaply, simply laughably awful. "IHW" stands the test of time & certainly is one of Duke's best, an era when he still reigned as the cinema's greatest star, bar none.

[@vernpascal1531]

@@jackbuckley7816 I agree Jack. Case in point I saw The Current War about a week back with excellent Actor Benedict Cumberbatch about Tesla,Edison, Westinghouse and the battle for securing electricity to the country. Pretty good film could have been better considering the subject matter,but man everything was so dark and gloomy with CGI. I know it's too hard to recreate that era financially without a lot of effects,however you can't top good ol' Technicolor with on location shooting. That's why I'm a huge fan of 50's westerns as long as it's fairly good.

[@jackbuckley7816]

@@vernpascal1531 Love the big-screen Technicolor westerns of the 50's, mainly the result of the studios' attempts to win back theatergoing audiences who were becoming hooked on that wonder of the age, television. I think it's accurate to say that cinema technology reached its apex in the 50's. The only thing I don't like about some of the westerns from that era are the corny theme songs frequently used in their opening credits. A minor quibble to be sure but, with exceptions, I find some of those songs rather cringe-inducing!

[@vernpascal1531]

@@jackbuckley7816 High Noon, The Hanging Tree had excellent songs, and 3:10 To Yuma was pretty good songwise, I know what you mean though and one has to overlook a lot of non realisms as well.

[@shawncarroll5255]

Grant was a phenomenal organizer and trainer. He trained a good portion of the army he used to conquer western Tennessee. He also was a first class engineer, and understood both logistics, and his own eyes, when he chose to cast off from his commissary and feed off the Confederate plantations and farms around Vicksburg. He is one of the most misunderstood grest generals in US History.
He sucked at office politics, and had a horrible blind spot for men who would cheat him in business, or stab him in the back in the military. Lincoln was the one who kept Henry Halleck, the armchair general in charge of the US military, from cashiering Grant on unfounded or exaggerated rumors.
"Legend has it that when critics of Gen. Ulysses S. Grant complained to President Abraham Lincoln about Grant's drinking, Lincoln replied, "I wish some of you would tell me the brand of whiskey that Grant drinks. I would like to send a barrel of it to my other generals.""

[@bobbycars1340]

He FIGHTS

[@shawncarroll5255]

@@bobbycars1340 To actually get to that I'd have had to write down the argument Lincoln got into with a cabinet member after the first quote. Finally, in frustration Lincoln said exactly what you quoted (and it took a fair bit to get him to be short with you). I didn't want someone accusing me of misquoting him.
Both were great men, and if Lincoln had died when younger, we would have lost Grant and Sherman as well. Lincoln almost got pulled down under by the river current trying to get a pole boat past a weir dam, when he was about 20, I recall. Any one of them might have been difficult to replace, with all three and the possible candidates historically to replace them , I believe the Civil War may very well have ended differently.
One of Lincoln's greater moments came just afterwards, and I've always tried to emulate this with my kids. The letter is below.
"My Dear General
I do not remember that you and I ever met personally. I write this now as a grateful acknowledgement for the almost inestimable service you have done the country. I wish to say a word further. When you first reached the vicinity of Vicksburg, I thought you should do what you finally did - march the troops across the neck, run the batteries with the transports and thus go below; and I never had any faith, except a general hope that you knew better than I, that the Yazoo-Pass expedition, and the like could succeed. When you got below, and took Port Gibson, Grand Gulf and vicinity, I thought you should go down the river and join Gen. Banks; and when you turned Northward, East of the Big Black, I feared it was a mistake. I now wish to make the personal acknowledgement that you were right and I was wrong.
Yours very truly
(Signed) A. Lincoln"
He could admit he had been wrong, a critical trait in a leader of men. When he asked you for, or gave advice, he meant to it. We have an almost perfect contrast going on right now.

[@patrickmccrann991]

Grant was not the drinker that many believed him to be. Much of the drinking accusations were generated by people who disliked Grant and the fact he had left the army.

[@shawncarroll5255]

@@patrickmccrann991 Yes, and no. IMHO Grant is a perfect example of a man of action. Put him into a dead end where nothing he does makes a difference, he is cut off from all of his social network and family, and where there is nothing else to do - let's just say he didn't thrive in those situations. What many of us forget though is that the vast majority of us suck in those kind of adverse conditions .
The problem became of that because of his spectacular implosion before the war, which it looks like alcohol plus an utterly awful situation at a frontier post caused, people decided to give him a reputation. From then on even the slightest hint of an issue would cause people to dredge up what had happened before without any context. So he had many in his staff who were teetotalers, and even being on a riverboat, out of communication, going to the nearest city with a telegraph to send the wonderful news that Vicksburg had fallen - that meant he was becoming an alcoholic again. As far as I am concerned it meant that for only less than a handful of times he had no command responsibilities, he had just had a success nobody had thought was possible, and he celebrated. While that is not a possible choice for me, as I discovered when I was younger even one drink could cause me to start to bleed from my nose and other areas, and I don't wish to die from a stroke which runs on my mother's side of the family - I cannot think of a more responsible context to celebrate by getting drunk, if that floats your boat.
For whatever reason, Lincoln agreed with me. That, and his military success, I believe shows you that Lincoln was an astute judge of men.

[@williammerne8510]

A great movie with major acting talent. One of my favorites.

[@randallsage6740]

We have watched this many times, and still do. A point in time that once was, but is now gone.

[@teller1290]

well said...sadly.

[@samuelgriffin9364]

War movies were incredibly important to the box office movies as it is Thanks to the legendary John Wayne and Kirk Douglas

[@thebestisyettocome4114]

John Wayne, never severe in the arm forces.. Only in the movies. Still a very honest and great American. 🇺🇲

[@jenningsrozzell7557]

Mr. Wayne was deferred from serving due to his age and a condition of flat feet.

[@fooman2108]

One of my favorite Henry Fonda speech is in any movie

[@Scottrchrdsn]

It was good; I will grant you that. But, IMHO, nothing could beat his speech to the Soviet Premier in "Fail Safe"!! He did that performance about a year before and it was incredible.

[@ronaldjones398]

My birthday is December 7th, I have always loved thus movie, in 1996 started work at Dai Nippon ( IMSA) in Concord NC I worked for them 25 years in Management

[@allenatkins2263]

Take the Penguin with you, he has had some success against Batman.

[@anthonycarr5514]

And he's a great boxing trainer! just ask Rocky!

[@marstondavis]

If you've never seen this movie, do so. You'll see some great action and some excellent talent at the top of their game.

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

Good film indeed. My only problem with it is the cheesy model work towards the end. Otherwise, a great watch!

[@geraldjohnson3567]

I love the way Henry Fonda uses the analogy of the Lincoln dilemma concerning McClellan. He sets up Rock Torry to be his Grant albeit Admiral Broderick.

[@9johnpaul]

Lincoln outright replaced 1 general with another. In the movie that wasn't the case.If he had of,it would have had the opposite effect on the men that Nimitz said it would.

[@michaeljensen2013]

Fonda's character was wrong. Grant was a great organizer. Study his conquest of the Gibraltar of the West, Vicksburg, MS and you will agree his knowledge of supply lines and armies was second to none.

[@cripplehawk]

Kinda funny that Henry Fonda himself played Lincoln

[@edbrown4218]

Grant did not replace McClellan. McClellan was already gone when Grant was put in charge of the Army of the Potomac over Meade, and Meade was kept on as one of Grant's generals.

[@teller1290]

@@michaeljensen2013 but Little Mac was gifted in this area also...all the way up to committing them to getting killed. That was Grant's specialty.

[@stevenr6797]

Most of these actors played in 1976 Midway movie, in my opinion, the greatest collection of acting talent ever assembled, both past and present.

[@kyle381000]

As far as I know, only Henry Fonda was in 'Midway', but not the other two.

[@bobnejedlo]

This clip involves the value of decisive action verses indecision!

[@Mr91495osh]

When we had Movie stars like this in Hollywood, we were unbeatable and we proved it. Smart, stable and Patriotic! GlennFHoward

[@bigsur175]

@Leo Peridot you are the idiot the left is a bunch of nigga lovers and morons

[@joshuamitcham1519]

@@bigsur175 where ever you thought you were,you aint.go back.way back.
The dialog between those two characters should have won both an Oscar but this is one of John Wayne's finest performances.

[@bigsur175]

@@joshuamitcham1519 what the fuck you talking about

[@Mr91495osh]

@Leo Peridot we only win the wars we want to win. We never should have been in Vietnam. Johnson got us into that war after the Gulf of Tonkin incident. Trump would not have been sucked into it. We never belonged in Afghanistan. Our blood is more important than their ideology.

[@Mr91495osh]

@Leo Peridot you are so very misinformed

[@Einstein1414]

Hank Fonda... terse and brilliant. Outside of Tracy, best American actor of his generation.

[@paulcunningham2859]

Two great actors very different men

[@yadayada9581]

Three very good actors

[@captainamericaxxx3874]

I saw this movie at a drive in when I was a kid. Fictionalized names based on some real events. Careful telling of Gaudalcanal and Solomon's with out offending anyone. Fonda as Nimitz and Wayne as Halsey.
The movie was made without the help of the U.S Navy, which was rare in the 1960s.

[@ijnfleetadmiral]

The DoD cooperated extensively on the film.especially the U.S. Navy and the U.S. Marine Corps, with substantial filming occurring both aboard warships at sea and ashore at Naval Station Pearl Harbor (to include Ford Island) and Marine Corps Air Station Kaneohe Bay.

[@Johnnycdrums]

"Just how far can I go with Admiral Broderick". "Weeeell, you can't kill him.................. HAHAHAHAHAAAA!

[@Johnnycdrums]

Broderick is worse than being a safety hazard and detriment to equipment readiness.

[@Johnnycdrums]

You must watch "Once Upon A Time In The West". If you hate Fonda you'll love this one.

[@kimberlywertz8266]

Torry may not have killed Broderick. But he sure as hell humiliated him.

[@robertrock8778]

"Well, you can't kill him." Best line of this great movie.

[@navblue20]

Actually you could.

[@jackbuckley7816]

Superb scene with 2 great cinema heavyweights. Actually 3---Burgess Meredith was no slouch either, though never a marquee-headliner. This scene seems totally natural & believable. While Wayne still made mostly westerns, at which he was supreme, Fonda, by this point in his career, played several patriotic, all-American type-roles---not surprising, since he once played Lincoln, much earlier in his career. In the 1960's, he frequently played diplomats, presidents, politicians, businessmen, military commanders, etc., all very ethical & moralistic in nature, something for which he was well-suited. Don't get me wrong---Wayne played very patriotic & pro-American roles, too, not all of which were westerns, as evidenced here, but the shoot-em-ups still predominated, though by the 60's, they were becoming more sophisticated in nature. Fonda, too, made quite a few westerns during the decade himself. By the 60's, however, I think his straight-as-an-arrow, honest, humane, moral, & philosophical roles probably were needed both by studios & the public, for in such roles, Fonda had instant credibility.

[@vernpascal1531]

Well said. Love the film, and also really like the Rapport Kirk Douglas and Patricia O'Neal had with The Duke.

[@jackbuckley7816]

@@vernpascal1531 A very fine film indeed, probably even more effective without the garish distraction of color & the likely addition of Cinemascope. I don't recall if "IHW" was filmed in the latter. Though primarily associated with color films, some b&w movies also were done in wide-screen. Personally, I've always liked Cinemascope, though it means little on a TV screen. I also especially like the in-depth length of this movie, i.e., an enormous subject which never loses sight of the human-angle.

[@Lonette]

Wayne and Fonda star in another fine WW2 movie and both play Army generals, but not with each other - The Longest Day.

[@Skoora]

And then in ‘69 Fonda gave one of his greatest performances as one of the most evil, soulless characters in the history of Westerns, Frank from Once Upon a Time In the West.

[@romanticandperky]

This movie was filmed on The U.S.S St. Paul, which was a real Naval cruiser during WWII. In real life, the Captain was my maternal grandfather. I just discovered this a few minutes ago on Wikipedia.

[@b.b.5240]

He was actually banned from joining the military because of his stature and the need to make moral boosting movies for the U.S. population.

[@romanticandperky]

John Wayne, you mean? I don't remember what Grandpa thought of John Wayne, or even of what were his favorite movies.

[@markharrison2544]

Servicemen laughed at his stupid war films.

[@ictpilot]

Mark Harrison Not all.

[@teller1290]

only the ass holes...like you.

[@PackerBronco]

Actually, Grant was great at organization. In fact, he was great at just about everything.

[@tomjustis7237]

Small point. Burgess Meredith served in the U.S. Army and rose to the rank of Captain during WWII.

[@tomjustis7237]

@Leo Peridot Wayne tried to enlist but he was turned down due to both his age (36) and the fact that he had three dependent children.

[@MajorDenisBloodnok]

@@tomjustis7237 Henry Fonda was 37 years, had 3 children and enlisted in the Navy...

[@bruceboone1232]

As an actor this was educational. Only thing it lacks is Robert Ryan.

[@briangoldy8784]

Could have Made Room For Ryan here...agreed.......

[@stevenckaroly]

Grant was Lincoln's Grant. Only problem with the scene was that Lincoln didn't replace McClellan with Grant. Grant came later.

[@shiloh6519]

And McClellan saved the union by checking Lee at Antietam.

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

True, but remember they're just trying to make a point, not do a dissertation on the Union Army in the Civil War. Hank Fonda's lines have to be brief and to the point.

[@Medevicerep]

This movie captures the culture of military leadership very well.

[@TheWoodeezz]

My favorite WWII Movie!!! To bad not complete! And a bright spot in the middle of the picture???

[@dennislowry812]

Best ever WWII movie. This is my most favorite movie of all.

[@tag427]

Been trying to get the book for years!

[@qzo55]

Available at Barnes & Noble or "Google"
www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=in+harm's+way+book+james+bassett&tbm=shop&spf=1497923907930

[@jennifersman7990]

This and The Longest Day are my favorites

[@odysseusrex5908]

tag427 The book is just called *Harm's Way*, which makes searching for it rather difficult. It is very good though.

[@davidharris6581]

John Wayne's version of Here to Eternity. He did a lot of movies like that. Rio Bravo, which he made three times was his version of High Noon. McQ was his version of Dirty Harry.

[@Hal09i]

Look at the expression on John Wayne's face at the end of the scene as he says "thank you, sir". In real life Wayne detested the politics of Henry Fonda, a liberal. There was little love lost between the men. A side note: Fonda was very good friends with Jimmy Stewart, a conservative. They came to blows over politics in their younger years but then patched up their friendship-- they then agreed never to discuss politics in each others presence.

[@r2gelfand]

The attitude expressed by Torrey might have been b/c he had just been given a promotion, yes, but a new realm of responsibility and a new foe to deal with, Broderick. It's like, thanks for the promotion, but no thanks for the new crap I'm going to have to put up with!

[@TWS-pd5dc]

You are 100% incorrect regarding Wayne and Fonda saying "There was little love lost between them". Wayne and Fonda were friends, they worked together in Fort Apache. Wayne hardly "detested" Fonda's politics, he certainly disagreed with them. He also didn't agree with the politics of Kirk Douglas, Richard Widmark, Lauren Bacall, Angie Dickinson, George Takei, Lee Marvin among others who were staunch democrats. He got along with all of them and they all spoke well of Wayne, despite as Kirk said "we didn't see eye to eye on politics". Fonda visited Wayne at the hospital when Duke was nearing the end. Also, Wayne never spoke out against Jane Fonda's disgraceful conduct during the Vietnam war. That was out of respect to Jane's father. Henry Fonda was more democrat in the FDR mode than he was "liberal".

[@brandonseyfried1251]

Awesome, awesome movie. Everybody, and I mean everybody, is in it. From The Duke himself to a young Larry Hagman.

[@jantzfitzgerald6115]

Grant and Lee were both brilliant young officers who helped write the 1846 campaign. And both were logistics geniuses. So the line is historically stupid. Having said that the movie is exceptional. The actors ( I'm including the women) give strong performances. Pure Oscar material.

[@larrylewis6771]

I love when George Kennedy's battalion was, orderly, running to load up on troop planes to attack the island. This was shown on TV yearly for the last 3 years. Great movie. I saw every war movie in my teens except this one.

[@cliffclaveman2729]

In that scene. The Duke asked if there was room for him. Kennedy replied that it was dangerous. The Duke didn't have to say anything. Just gave him a look that was priceless.

[@windwardhaven]

I saw those Dolphins on Fonda's chest and was reminded that Nimitz held several sub commands in his early career (after getting court-martialed as an ensign in command of a DD for running it aground on a mud bank in the Philippines).

[@philip73image]

Wow. Burgess Meredith and Henry Fonda and John Wayne. Damn. What a scene, I was hoping more talking by Burgess in this scene. 😁

[@leoperidot482]

John Wayne and Henry Fonda were notorious for playing naval officers in various WW 2 movies.
Fonda plays CINCPAC twice, IN HARM'S WAY and MIDWAY.
Henry Fonda actually served in the USN in WW 2 whereas John Wayne dodged the draft.

[@marksheiman1538]

Right on target. In harm's way he had a Texas drawl. Nimitz was from Texas.

[@leoperidot482]

@@marksheiman1538 Nimitz may have ben born in Texas but he made sure not to be buried there. I don't blame him one bit. Texas sucks!

[@YosenBMamma]

The whole time I was expecting *Batman & Robin* to barge in and break up the party.

[@jameshoran8]

Or Rocky to come set and say, Cut me, Mick!

[@dakotaslim]

Probably seen this 20 times, minimum, still love it.

[@woodardcreekcreations8234]

One of my all time favorites! Great epic movie.👍

[@fettfan91]

Indecision is a bane of leadership.

[@PatrolOfficer161]

This scene represents three Oscars (AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOUR! BURGESS MEREDITH GOT ROBBED FOR "ROCKY"!). An absolute gem of a movie that was star packed and firing on all cylinders from beginning to end! Brandon deWilde's character arch was epic and the Duke never gave a more emotional performance.

[@jennifersman7990]

Right, but if Meredith had to lose, he lost to another great one, Jason Robards in All the President’s Men

[@kpopahjussi6379]

Three giants of the movie screen! They sure don't make 'em like any of these three men anymore.

[@owensweetland342]

"Admiral. Do you what this is?" It's a map.

[@thunderstruck5484]

Remember back in the sixties and early 70s Sunday night at the movies tonight Otto Preminger’s “In Harms Way”! Always exciting when they announced that

[@keiththompson7392]

Burgess Meredith's first time managing the Rock.

[@ianredpath8359]

Great film with a great cast.

[@user-sr2ij2lf4n]

Great film with 3 great stars Wayne Douglas & Fonda.

[@Zooba57]

Tom Joad, Mickey and the Duke all in one scene. Classic!

[@markharrison2544]

Henry Fonda fully agreed with Peter and Jane's anti-war activism.

[@horacioavelinovillela3619]

Mark Harrison pelicula completa

[@ffjsb]

At least he kept his mouth shut unlike Hanoi Jane.

[@Bubbles99718]

You feel we should have gone into Vietnam? All post evidence says that was one of the biggest fuck ups we ever did.

[@douglaslally156]

Jane's anti-war activism wasn't the issue. The issue was allowing herself to be used as a propaganda tool for the Communists by agreeing to let them parade her around with NVA troops. I strongly doubt Henry fully supported that stunt. I believe her apologies about that are sincere but many will never forgive her ignorance toward American troops.

[@williamphillips6049]

Hanoi Jane is a reported traitor. The story goes that she forwarded notes by American POWs to Hanoi Hilton guards who tortured them later.
I think Vietnam and Iraq were shit political actions. Political fiascos pushed on us by criminally incompetent "leaders" and liars/politicians.
That's no reason to disrespect the guys who are sucked in to fight these things.
Old Man Fonda wouldn't have done something as thoroughly evil as his bitch daughter did . .
But then we'll never know.
He did raise those two losers.
Peter tried to kill himself with a shotgun once. Too bad when he missed, he couldn't have shot her instead.

[@thelastjohnwayne]

These 3 Actors alone had more talent than Holly WEIRD has seen in decades

[@user-yk7yv8rb5i]

My late father was in the British special forces during W W 2 he loved this film and admired John Wayne

[@robertbishop5357]

This is a great movie.