Mud Tire Comparison | Motohavok Cryptid Outlaw OutbackMax Zillas
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- We put together some Heavy Hitters in the mud tire category with Main Street Cycle in Tishomingo MS.. now before you start slinging mud at me for leaving out your favorite mud tire; I wanted to include more and i am aware that there are other really great mud tires that i did not get to include in this video. But here are some of my favorite options and you will see how much each weighs in this video. As well as my top pick of best tire. When you get a chance click this link: / realtalkpowersports
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The outlaws weighed in the video appear to be original 29.5 outlaws. The outlaw 2s come for a 14" wheel and the lug wrap all the way to the tires bead. Only reason mentioning this is because the outlaw 2 is about 10lbs heavier than the original outlaws.
Yes!
i know I have said this to you before but not every one has seen it but I went with the ITP mud lite's 27x9x12 front 27x11x12 rear with factory wheeles and I will get a little rubbing on the inner plastic when I turn right all the way I was going to take that piece off then relized the radiator hose was there, the tire have been great so far love them
Awesome information, thanks for taking the time.
Thanks John
ITP Cryptid is the best mud tyre to get, best rolling ability and practicality with the traction spreading evenly across the pattern with a big enough gap for thick mud. These are the ones im getting, if i decide to go back to stock tyres imma go for maxx plus forerunners, used these on hilly farmland and construction with a foreman 450 and they get through anything.
@Flip Flop they don't yet but there is talk of them making 27 and 28s, the 30-9-14 is their entry level size
Good information keep thilese coming
I have the ITP mayhem tires and they have a very smooth ride on my atv I was very surprised. I live in N.E. Pa
Nice video man 👍
Thanks Man!!!
Blake Great review Brother...I have 28x11x14 Maxxis Maxxzilla on My Grizzly and Love them a 30 would not fit without a lift didn't loose any power in any range power steering is feather light to...
THATS AWESOME
Another great video man! Still on the fence with the CForce 800 and Outlander 650. Looking forward to some long term updated reviews from you on your 800.
On that same fence. What did you end up going with??
@@ecureed still haven’t bought one man. All the pandemic stuff made me Leary of spending a large chunk of money but I have my Polaris General to trail ride for now. And I still haven’t made my mind up yet. I’d like to see a bigger aftermarket for the CF moto. I have no doubt it’s a good brand.
@@xgumbix1 it’s a tough decision. I’m considering the 650 Max DPS or the 800 XC, basically a $1900 difference, maybe less because most of the CFMOTO dealers add the freight fee where my can am dealer will sell at msrp. So with it’s about a $1400 difference. Less warranty and no winch from Can Am but stronger track record. I’m torn especially since I could use that $1400 to add the wheel and tire package Blake installed.
@@ecureed yeah man. I know what I’m getting with the can am and they are built pretty tough. I’m a little cautious with the local moto dealer as he is really small and you just never know how long they’ll stick around. If he leaves the nearest dealer is a couple hours away. I have 3 can am dealers within an hour. It seems like the moto’s are built pretty good though.
I mean if you’re talking longevity, you’re comparing a Chinese manufactured bike to a North American manufactured bike. I work on all brands of bikes, I get tons of work with the Chinese bikes lol.
Found some reviews on the terache Aztek xl. If Main Street gets some in checkthem out. What’s also noce is they make them in a 28” and they’re only 35lbs at that size according to another TH-camr. These videos r super helpful and I’m sure fun to make.
Awesome info !! Are you talking about Mudpuppy?
Yeah he had the info on the weight. There’s some ohhers running them now too I don’t remember names.
Do happen to know the front and rear rims width. I wanna run 9’s all around but I remember having a hard time with the rears on my 570. We had to put some ether and light’em up lol pop on the bead. We couldn’t get air in fast enough on the machine.
Very informative video 👍😀
Thanks so much
any experience with the cst sludgehammers? hear they ride really good. wondering what the best riding true mud tire is. hear those and the cryptids are they way to go
Outlaw 3 or aztex best for mud or are there better mud tires you know of?
6:42 good to know this info
You should check out the terache aztecs they would work good on your next toy
How fast does the 500s go after the first maintenance/break in
Nice video! Just ordered a set of 27” zillas for my sportsman 570. Went with them because of their light weight.
Great choice! You will really like them
Just ordered 28’s for my 570 yesterday and can’t wait to get them on the bike!
James Stinnette Awesome! I was debating going with the 28’s but I read somewhere they rub a little. Not sure if that’s true or not.
Can you respond to my comments please
@@yourfatngay2346 what comments? We recieved none yet.. what questions do ya have? We will try to answer them
how would I get some good tires for my rancher 420 rear are 12 inch rims and backs 11inch weird everywhere I go they offer me mudlites n I don’t want em
Do a cleaning video on your fourwheelers.
Kenda executioners are the best
What’s best for my 2014 outlander 1000
what best for my brute force 750 2020 in 28
Good info! I have an 800XC 2020 model as well. Are you going 30x10 all the way around and do they fit that way without any modification?
Yes sir.. I took my fender flares off and went 30x10 all the way around. With a 5+2 offset wheel.. no rubbing and looks awesome. I'll be posting a video on it next week
@@RealTalkPowersports so went with another wheel and not the stocks? Would those 30x10s work on the stock wheels w/o mods?
@@roncrouch404 I think you might would need 1 inch wheel spacers to keep them from touching your Inner fender covers. My setup is 1 inch wider than the stock wheels and it comes close but doesn't touch. Now if you go with the 9 inch wide 30s I know you can use your stock wheels because i saw someone with that setup at the dealership
@@RealTalkPowersports awesome! Thanks for the info and look forward to your next video!
I got 36/10.5 R18 Intimidator on 6in portals.
I bought 32” intimidators for my defender.
How you liking them so far?
Real Talk Powersports wont be here for another 3 weeks. Lots of places sold out in canada.
@@danestrada2522 wow.. man yes everywhere is selling out of everything it seems
Hey! I have a question, not related to tires. Would you consider buying a CFMoto CForce 400S and putting Nicer tires and wheels and such. When this whole Virus thing passes. Like if he should!
Well the winch and power steering is very nice to have. And the power of the 500 is very good. But if you want to keep it simple and cheap then the 400 is great choice and put some 27 inch zillas and you would have a very capable atv
If u can swing the extra cost of the 500 I think it’s worth it. First time u get stuck by yourself you’ll be very happy u did. Plus the power steering and the nicer tires and rims. But like Blake said the 400’s on 27’s will get u just about anywhere on a tight budget.
How is comparing apples to oranges to pears to grapes accurate. Different sizes.
I do have a 14” Msa wheel. I went with 28” itp mega mayhem all from Main Street cycle on a 2020 cforce 600. How likely is a direct fit for 29.5 outlaw 2’s on my setup? Or would I need lifting?
I'm almost 100% certain the 29.5s will not fit without a lift. Cause my 28s come very close on my 600
Real Talk Powersports ok thanks! I’ll get it back up there and see what I need to get fitted. By the way! Best bike dealer around 👍🏽
Flip Flop I do but it seems that the outlaw 2’s work better and don’t cake as bad
Blake, and anyone else who may know... Obviously you can fit 28" tires on the 2021 cforce 500, but can I fit 30" on it being that I do have the 2" highlifter lift kit on it. I saw you did have 30" tires on the red 500 in the clutch kit performance video, but did you have any rubbing and will I have to worry about bottoming out if I hit a jump or two. I desperately want the 30" Terache Aztex, which actually only measure 29.5" and 9 or 9.5" wide, cause they are a beast of a tire, affordable and only 41 lbs.. I'm getting 4x3 offset msa wheel and I don't mind triming plastics, (I also already have 2" spacers that I can put back on it if the 4x3 offset isn't enough, I just want to make sure they aren't too big and rub, or should I just go with the 28" Aztex's (actually 27.5"). I just want as much ground clearence as possible for mudding. Also, the 500 won't have any trouble turning them (30" or 28") right? Especially with the stage 3 clutch kit I'll be adding to it in the near future too?
I highly recommend sticking with the 28s on the 500.. they will fit way better and perform great as well! Especially with the MSC Stage 3 kit..
Thanks alot for your help! Decision made, 28's it is!! You guys are the best, my official cf moto go-to for advice! Keep up the awesome videos.
Obor Mudfalo WU08 is the best
How much does weight really matter? I am putting new tires on a Polaris which is geared low from what I hear.
Depending on how much more weight a tire adds over stock setup.. you can normally feel and tell a big difference in performance
What's the biggest tire size i could run on a my CFORCE 500 HO 2018?
For sure any 27 inch tire.. But there are some 28s that you could get by with if you run a offset after market wheel and make sure the front tire is less than 9.5 inches wide
@@RealTalkPowersports Thanks for the reply!! Will do!
Which tire you like best the cryptid or the system 3 310. I’m tore between the two
AWE MAN!!! That is very tough! Thats why i have them both! I run the system 3 xm310 on my 600 and the cryptids on the 800! Either one will be great! But I think the cryptids may do slightly better on everyday trail riding.. But i dont think you can go wrong either way
Real Talk Powersports thank you man I’ve been putting off picking my new defender up because I just couldn’t decide what I wanted to do. U just made my decision . I wanted the smoother riding of the too
@@austinlittle2385 AWESOME!!!!
Wheres the silverback 2s!!??? There a super good tire especially if u cut the backwards hook lug off of em! I runnem on my og maverick 37s on 18s with 4" boxs!! The silverback 2s pull hard af!!
What is the best mud tire for a outlander 570 ride about 75% mud and 25%trail
Zilla
Should I go with the outback Max’s over the cryptids? Only going with a 26 inch or 27 if I get cryptids. How do the cryptids wear?
The cryptids in my opinion are WAY BETTER! because they are so much lighter and have a softer compound which gives it a better ride
@@RealTalkPowersports I am going with either 26 outback’s or 27 cryptids. Weight only effects it by about 1 pound so I was wondering what would be better for trail and water?
How should i break in my 500s should i have it in low or high half throttle
Your Fat n gay on most new machines, you don’t want to push them really hard at first. Honestly you should never run anything wide open for extended periods of time . It’s too hard on the engine. Just because your atv can run 65 mph doesn’t mean it can cruise at that speed. It would be like driving your truck 100 mph all the time.
Does the 500s keep up with polaris 450
What do you mean
So itp Cryptid x 9 is 29 and itp cryptid x 10 same tire just one measures true to size ?
yes the 9 inch wide actually only measures 28 and a half inches tall and the 10 inch wide measures just over 29 and a half inches
Do you mean 31 motohavoks?
That was a Og outlaw not outlaw 2
Did you re-clock the CVT primary to handle the extra weight or do the stock positions seem to be holding up ok?
They are doing great in the stock setup. Engine and stock clutching runs them great
I plan on getting some video of me riding pretty hard this week with them on
Does your 500s pop when you let go of the gas
Your Fat n gay My 570 doesn’t pop at all if that’s what you’re asking
David Vigliotti how does yours idle
Not sure how much mine weigh
Unbelievable how heavy these tires are. Twice as heavy as 25” tires. Definitely need serious power to handle them and strong axles too.
You Got a couple tires wrong. You called Monster Mayhems... Mega Mayhems. Monster Mayhems come only in 30s, while megas come in 27+28s. You also called the Original Outlaws the Outlaw 2.... big difference in weight between the 2 so people will get the wrong impression on them.