some people are actually too simple to understand the complexity of the plot in the 2nd and third movie. (More the third then the second). I personally loved the trillogy, 4 isn't cannon and five was just too sad for me to watch. (Depp really was a shell of a shell of the man he was during the first 3)
They just weren’t as good as Curse Of The Black Pearl was . Still great but just shows how incredible of a movie the 1st was. The trilogy as a whole is still pretty amazing
@@bigdog3628 To be fair though 3 could've been much shorter. Like shit man I just rewatched them. Got to the scene when they trade Will and Jack and right before that AI was thinking "Oh shit we almost done..." Then I was like "Holy fuck there is an entire ass hour left." Granted the movie was better than I remembered. I actually liked it more than I did back then but shit dude 3 could've been much shorter lol.
@@brycebirkinbine4119 i disagree, the long ass movie is all a great buildup to the final battle and super character work, the third act wouldn't be as affective if there were cuts
I honestly liked 4. It works very well as just a standalone Jack Sparrow movie not connected to closely to the rest. The only returning characters are Ginbs, Jack, and Hector
Its literally known as one of the most iconic scores out there, certainly for big action cinema in the early 2000s, anyone who says otherwise has no idea
Johnny Depp and Geoffrey Rush are unpleasant? Why? In Depps case, if you’re referring to the Amber Heard incedent, she was proven to be a liar and lost favor of her fans and family from all the Courtroom Drama she cultivated. Yeah Depp isn’t an Angel either(drugs and all) but he has proven multiple times he’s never abused anyone. He also isn’t the one to take a shit in someone’s bed either, unlike Amber. I’m not so sure about Geoffrey but everyone who’s met him has said he’s a great guy as far as I know so I’m not sure where you got that from either.
@@theclericbeast4real Probably the obligatory woke disclaimers. He said he’s active on Twitter, probably shared that there too and wanted to be on the clear from the woke mob.
the CGI was indeed ahead of its time. Even for the 1st movie, whenever they shift the Black Pearl's damned crew to skeleton when there's a moon light still astounds me. What a movie, and the trilogy still stands as one of the best movie ever created. I like the 4th as well (not as much as the trilogy though); and the 5th installation is just boring af
The "Johnny Depp of it all"? What exactly is that suppose to mean? A man abused by his wife, forced out of his job, and treated like garbage somehow makes this movie bad?
Yeah cause Sparrow is Depp and Depp is Sparrow whatever bad or good thing happens to one it will affect the other So when Depp got abused Sparrow became. . . less of his former self
Please don't pretend Johnny is a saint. He is a known dick on sets, shows up late on sets intoxicated and there is proof of him hitting amber heard as well. I am not amber heard fan but that's the truth
We live in a world where when the accuser is a woman they have to be believed otherwise you aren't supporting them, thats how people actually think today its shocking
How about being a legal pedophile and hooking up with chicks that are 10 to fucking 23(!!) years younger than he? And then they wonder that their relationships turn into shit-fests...
The original trilogy worked when it focused on the trio of Jack, Will and Elizabeth. The sequels went stale afterwards as it lacked characters that we cared about.
And often the first movie is used to introduce the main characters for example Star Wars a new hope introduces the characters then return of the Jedi has a lot more characters and moves faster
Disagree slightly on the "problematic" aspects. I always thought the way the story was told resembled the tale of an old sailor, with all the exaggerations and weird stuff. So the fact that the chinese pirates have spent so much time in their bathhouse that fungi were growing on them was hilarious to me, not racist or problematic. Of course nobody wanted to say that that is how it really is or was. Same with the cannibals. But great video!
Tbh I can't think of a single problematic representation in the movie. All the pirates of different races were treated as equals, the women were pretty much all empowered (Elizabeth obviously, the one Jack owed a boat to in the first movie, even the prostitutes wouldn't take shit from Jack and were constantly slapping him for his BS). As for the cannibals, I thought they were handled quite tastefully. It's not like cannibalistic cultures didn't exist, and they weren't really savages. They had a culture, built huts, bridges and roads, and had tools, agriculture, and a seemingly sophisticated language. Any stereotypes, as you've stated, were exaggerated beyond the point of believability, and as such couldn't be taken seriously. The only thing that might be bad was the voodoo lady from movie 2, but in movie 3 you find out that she can only do voodoo since she's the literal vessel of a god, so I think it slides.
@@pewpewpandas9203 Voodoo is popularly practiced in the Caribbean _today_. 200 years ago it was all over the place in the Caribbean, as well as Africa. Honestly, other than the actual happenings in the movie, it's really quite historically accurate. The producers really did their homework.
@@TomatoFettuccini Fair enough. It's not that I think it was problematic that voodoo was shown at all, I just worry that it wasn't shown properly. I'm not at all an expert on voodoo or how it's practiced, but I worry that for the use of it in the movie, they probably didn't look into it too much. It would be like how American Indians are often portrayed in movies as generic tribes people with mystical knowledge of nature and feather headdresses. It's taking the aesthetic without respecting the actual culture. I don't know if that's the case for sure, as again I don't really know much about voodoo, but I think it's a safe bet to make.
I dislike Johnny Depp for his West Memphis 3 connection..., but that's just me.. That's a choice I made. Not a decision I let Hollywood gossip decide for me.
@@TheHardys01 so you’re in the habit of attacking innocent ppl, got it. You boycott Peter Jackson and all the other people who helped free those guys after DNA evidence proved them innocent?
@@gonzofilmreviews Mate, If we were face to face you'd be getting smacked up for the amount of assuming you're doing. &For you to defend that situation means you either know nothing of the occult & witchcraft, or are well educated in such arts, and looking to defend any fellow practicers. & Lastly I'll tell you this, If you really are just that ignorant, here's some news for you.. If you knew the full extent of the corruption within this world you were born into, you would take the concept of a boycott more seriously. Many of the struggles you face throughout your daily life( *cough* *cough* gasoline) could be aided if folks were unite and boycott against the proper organizations.
@fee foo no he wasn’t. A judge without a jury unilaterally made a fuckhead decision that shocked every lawyer who’s seen the actual evidence. In Virginia, with a jury, and no cherry-picking of the evidence, it is all laid out in the fairfax documents. She literally lied. There are pictures of her the day of her alleged “attacks” with ZERO injuries. Laughing. Read past a biased headline, bot
Yea, sorry man. I literally just listened to the entire Curse of the Black Pearl soundtrack two days ago and I was thrilled with every song but one. Yes the iconic songs are great (Hans worked on one of the songs), but listen to Underwater March, or Barbossa's Hungry, or anything from the battle between the British soldiers and the cursed crew. They are phenomenal, amongst other tracks. Hans Zimmer was masterful in DMC and AWE, but to say that Debault's soundtrack is "bad" is a bad take.
Yeah that part of the video really threw me off. Sure the soundtrack was better in DMC and AWE, but was CBP’s ost actually bad? Not every single piece of music has to be crazy memorable, it just needs to serve the scene well. From my few watched Pirates 1’s music serves it’s purpose well.
Just finished a marathon of the Gore Verbinski _Pirates_ trilogy, and I totally agree. These films are awesome! Fun, sexy, romantic, hilarious, full of heart (in more ways than one), often surprisingly moving, and breathtakingly beautiful.
I mean, Keira did have a few other action roles like King Arthur, Domino and Jack Ryan. It seems to be that she opted away from anything too big and mainstream, because she got famous so young, and the limelight was so overwhelming she admits to being unable to leave her house for a while. She got two Oscar nominations in that time as well, so her career direction seems to be entirely her choice. Agreed about her performance though. Elizabeth is the GOAT of the franchise
I think you’d better look into Depp and Geoffrey Rush before you call them problematic. Know the whole story, do more research. Because if you’re referring to Depp and Amber, the case came out that she was the abuser, not him. And as for Geoffrey Rush, he was proven innocent on any allegations. I would take proving of innocence to be a pretty credible source for this opinion. Other than that, good video, but was taken out of it a bit.
@@TheHardys01 Bruh there is a literal mountain of evidence showing Heard abused Depp in all the ways a person can be abused. Heard's defense can't bring an OUNCE of actual evidence he abused her. Her story has changed a million times. Her lies keep being exposed. All her legal team can do is attack Depp for his addiction troubles like being an addict makes you a bad person - which is so backwards it's infuriating. Depp has the the evidence. He has the character witnesses. He has the composure. He hasn't changed his story. Depp is innocent.
I’ve always thought the first 3 movies are incredible and it always annoys me when someone says the other two are bad, the first one prob is objectively the best but personally I just love all 3, watched them so many times and there’s just nothing else like it
You said, in reference to "icky people" that: "If someone wanted to discard the films because of this, that's fair". I'm pretty sure that's the polar opposite of "fair". Judging a work of art simply by the people who made is ridiculous, and frankly, and insult to all art and art criticism. Made even worse by the fact that Depp didn't even do the things he was accused of at the time. You should be embarrassed by this statement.
Johnny Depp's moral fiber only serves to add more merit to these films. I know nothing of Barbosa guy, except that he won his defamation case. I can't say whether the court ruled correctly, but it's worth noting that it ruled in his favor. As for the writer, googling him got nothing negative, so I'd be inclined to believe any incident wasn't particularly noteworthy. With all that said, it's likely that neglecting to mention a word about these three would've produced less of a reaction than actually including the disclaimer did
I do not understand the attacks on Rush and Depp. From all of the actual evidence I’ve seen for Depp and stuff I’ve heard about both Depp and Rush, they are both wonderful people, and wonderful to be around and work with.
Yes, too bad most channels have to rush to judgement based on big corporation media lies to cater to a small amount of woke weirdos, which is on its way out of fashion and people will not look back on this trend with much fondness. With that said the first 3 pirates films are very enjoyable and well made, they will stand the test of time!
I don’t care how many people may complain that it’s too campy, watching Barbosa officiate a wedding while in battle will always be one of the funniest things I ever watch
Loved this video. I'd disagree on some points, but not because I think you're wrong, I'm just a weirdo. You see, I thought the Keith Richards cameo was great, from a storytelling perspective. From the sound of it, it was going to happen whether anyone wanted it to or not, but the way they handled it was genius, I think. First, they assigned Richards to an essential plot device: Keeper of the Code, a Lawful-Neutral character scary enough to force the Brethern Court to act outside of their kneejerk, selfish instincts, and someone who can ultimately be pointed like a weapon by anyone clever enough to game the rules. He's a character the story needed to move forward regardless of who played him or what his relationship to Jack was. And from a meta-perspective, it just makes sense that Jack's "Mother Mary" is Keith Richards. Also, I think it's hilarious that two legendary Pirate Lords were at a stalemate, so one told on the other to his dad.
On top of that, the most horrific, terrifying-looking pirate in the entire franschise is Keith Richards' Captain Teague. Seeing THAT FACE coming at you would be more than sufficient cause to turn tail and run for your life!
I love the sequels so much. DMC and AWE are two of my all time favorite movies, so much so that I couldn't tell you how long it's been since I even watched the first one. Davy Jones and his crew are so fascinating to me, the design, the personality, the Flying Dutchman. It's all just so fucking cool for cool's sake and I love it. I'm 23, and I've been watching these since they came out, and I'll be watching them for the rest of my life. 10/10 will watch again
Completely agreed. I enjoy DMC AND AWE more with each viewing. First film was alot of fun, and was a great jumping off point for these characters. But I'll always prefer the next two. The Davy Jones saga alone elevates the movies, and the story itself is extremely ambitious. And good grief-- the ENDING of At World's End? A bittersweet and even tragic finale for all involved. I don't think it would have ended in such bleak fashion if these movies had been made in the last 5-7 years. Love these movies!!
For anybody who is always praising the first movie to be the best. I have been studying 1-3 and I constantly re-watch them. Pirates of the Caribbean does not go downhill in writing after the first movie. That is your business to believe that opinion everyone else goes with. Dead man’s chest gave the characters more depth! Elizabeth and William barely have anything to work with in the first movie. William’s relationship with his father that was hinted in the first movie of his father‘s existence. Paid off wonderfully. William’s character had way more in depth now and you have something to truly care about him for. You get both perspectives when you understand their Reunion! Bootstrap didn’t want Will to become a pirate like him, he wanted him to have a free life from the pirate life. William had a hard time accepting he was half Pirate but when he accepted his life and his father… He has a new journey to stab the heart of Davy Jones to set his father free. And you’re implying William is better in the first movie just because he wanted to save the girl he loved? William in the second movie now has Elizabeth as a lover. And now a new journey to rescue his father someone else he cares about. And this became a difficult situation when bootstrap told Elizabeth at world‘s end. William has to make a decision. Either don’t kill Davy Jones so he can be with you. Or he does kill Davy Jones and set me free, but he won’t be able to be on land for 10 years. If I were him I wouldn’t pick me! :/ The emotional weight on William’s character gets better and better. Elizabeth in the first movie was just a damsel in distress girl. She wasn’t useless in the first movie but you get the point. In the second movie, Elizabeth learned to wield a sword and she used it in the battle. She pulled a gun to Beckett‘s head.. went on her own journey to save will. She has grown a lot since the first movie who was just an innocent girl! Elizabeth got better as a character in 2 and 3! As for Jack sparrow. He does not become a joke at all in all 3 movies. Jack sparrow is at his best in the second movie and in the third movie. There was a moment in dead men’s chest… Where Jack didn’t know what he truly wanted so the compass couldn’t locate what he desired. So when Elizabeth went on her journey and then found Jack.. Jack used her for his advantage! He took advantage of Elizabeth’s feelings by telling her if you want to save Will you have to want to find the chest of Davy Jones! In order to get will back.. That’s why Jack gave her the compass. Jack knew if he couldn’t figure what he wanted out he was going to get it out of Elizabeth. Since Elizabeth now wants to find the chest of Davy Jones to save will. This gives Jack the huge opportunity to find the chest to stab the heart in it. But instead he wants to control DavyJones before killing him. Jack sparrow is not stupid! When will was trying to stab the heart towards the end of the second movie. Jack knows just because Davy Jones is dead, does not mean the Kraken will be stopped as well. And you’re telling me Jack is dumb after part 1?? As for Beckett. He was a well executed villain who uses dialogue and negotiation to control people. The Reason why Beckett didn’t fire his cannons at worlds end. Was because it would be totally out of his character to use weapons. Beckett uses certain words to get through people and how to control them behind the scenes. Beckett at the end of the movie had nothing left to negotiate with. Davy Jones was dead, Jack sparrow is alive and well. Will Turner is now the new captain of the Flying Dutchman. Beckett had literally nothing to use against on people. He was caught in shocked and he decided to die.. Anyways I could defend the Gore Verbinski’s Trilogy all night. His trilogy is an underrated trilogy. It had great character writing and amazing detail of its depth. Also Will vs Davy Jones!!! 😈😈😈 when Will challenging Davy Jones. Davy Jones asks him how do you know about the key? Will replies and says, that's NOT part of the game is it? 😏 You can STILL walk away!! 😏 As for pirates 4/5 they are not even Canon they are filler movies. The story ended at worlds end! ☠️
You expressed my thoughts perfectly though I probably wouldn’t be able to phrase them as eloquently. Elizabeth is easily one of my favorite characters of all time. Despite being the damsel in distress she is never helpless and takes advantage of any opportunity to improve her situation. Throughout the trilogy she regularly fools the people around her. Like how she poses as a maid of the manor assuming that they would try to ransom her otherwise. Or how she not only surmise the purpose of the raid on port royal but also called out their bluff when they stated otherwise. Her quick-wittedness isn’t as overt in the following two films but it’s still a big characteristic of hers that I love.
4 and 5 is canon sadly its just not pirates truly. They laminate on another pirate in the world aka blackbeard and the last one killed a future character off forsure but shows up things the comics talk about that even the beginning trilogy never answered only hinted at
I thought I was the only one that felt this way about World's End. I wasn't the biggest fan of Dead Man's chest, loved the effects, loved the setups, but World's End captivated me from beginning to end. I was ROOTING for Elizabeth. She was legitimately bad-ass, and I would've loved to see some pirate spin-off films with her. I even cared about Will! The way the story came together, and the full on ridiculousness, absurdity, and even mild psychedelia floored me. Then I found out that most people I knew I didn't like it at all. Although straight up, I disagree with you on the Johnny Depp of it all comment. And the Keith Richards jibe. That scene was a brilliant surprise for me in theatres. Knowing that he had in part been a large inspiration to Depp for Captain Jack, and then actually SEEING the man himself show up as his father? I loved every minute of it.
As for the actors off-set. Pretty sure Rush was accused of something but I never heard of it again so I assume there was nothing there and Depp has a massive wave of support right now as it appears things are headed towards Amber Heard being exposed as a liar and an abuser which I hope to some degree allows Johnny the peace of mind to focus and get back in the right mindset for his craft and give us more great moments
Couldn't get three minutes into this video without it turning into a big political/race speech that no one gives a crap about. Also would you care to explain what exactly is wrong with Johnny Depp and Geofrey Rush? Don't tell me they made a somewhat racist joke years ago and you got offended
I hope he isn’t referring to the Amber Heard allegations as what makes Depp problematic. Because they are quite literally false. Depp isn’t an angel or saint, but in that situation he seems to be the main victim and he got shit on by Hollywood for it. As for Rush, I saw another person say that he had a case go to court about sexual misconduct/defamation and he won (I acknowledge that this case was against a newspaper that was defaming him, and I can’t find info about the actual sexual misconduct beyond the allegations). So yeah hope he wasn’t referring to that stuff as to what makes both the actors problematic.
As a lot of others have pointed out in the comments, your vague attacks on Johnny Depp and rush and the 3rd guy really drags the quality of this video down. Throw in also the whole cultural problematic complaints which make no sense to me, as far as the cannibals there are actual tribes who are thought to engage in cannibalism so I don't see the problem with that, as for the bathhouse guys I never once thought that scene said anything about them as a race/ ethnicity just that those individual guys are a little crazy and did that as a fear factor cause I would of been terrified to see that. This video could have other wise been great but not after all that.
Brilliant! Thirty two minutes of which ten could easily be shaved off. And that’s just slandering GR JD, colonialism, history etc. He doesn’t have anything to say but still does. I don’t know his motives but if I could harbour a guess - self absorbed self righteous pompous narcissistic show off.
If someone wanted to discard the film because they "dislike" an actor they've almost certainly never met and who they've heard everything about from a celebrity media literally funded by the destruction of peoples lives... that would be fair? You come dangerously close to ruining this entire video because of silly statements like that, and it's a bummer, because otherwise this video is actually quite interesting and thoughtful
really.. calling innocent men problematic and saying the movie is racist. its a fucking fantasy movie with a villain who has a octopus beard... really disappointed.
That Hans Zimmer take, that the first definitely had the worst score compared to 2 - 3, is absolutely correct. Curse of the Black Pearl’s ost does sound more electronic, lacking that true orchestra richness the later movies have.
Maybe you should put something at the start of your video to show that you didn't really have the facts to outright dismiss these people? Geoffrey Rush won his case against the allegations and johnny deep has been fighting to clear his name against a women who admitted to being abusive. Kinda instantly put me off being that lazy about a fictional tribe as insulting in a magical pirate film, may as well says it's anti-British for them being useless and evil.
What you call 'luxury cinema' is the sort of movie you cannot watch while doing anything else. It demands your full attention, which is something we have a problem with nowadays, I think, when multi-tasking is the order of things. Thank you for a great essay!
We've been on a pirates kick in our watching, specifically 2 and 3. They have never failed on getting us genuinely excited for movie night in ways few movies can. We'll make themed drinks, grab kids pirate hats and sword fight with pool noodles. Nearly every aspect of the original trilogy slaps
I’ve done some research on Depp, and I think you should too. It looks like he wasn’t the bad person we all thought he was. He was kind of framed by his wife, who was actually the one abusing Depp.
At World's End is my favorite Pirates movie. I love the spectacle, the weirdness, the huge amount of plot threads all coming together, and the soul of it all
Man I dont know but I've always loved Bill Nighy as an actor...and as Davy Jones...damn that performance was incredible. As a person that sometimes likes villains over heroes in movies, I LOVED Davy Jones (and to be honest in this trilogy there is plenty of villain/anti-heroes to chose from)
Back then I thought the sequels were okay, and I quite forgot about them to be honest. But I rewatched the series a few months ago and I loved them! It's so much better than most of the stuff published today. And Hans Zimmer's love theme for Will and Elizabeth? Oh, what a masterpiece!
Alright, hang on. People have already addressed the “problematic” point so I won’t go there, but the “fine” cinematography point? The Star Wars sequel trilogy looks fantastic, especially The Last Jedi (which is 12th on that list you mentioned). Infinity War isn’t quite as good but it’s still well filmed.
You have an issue with the cultural portrayals? Ummm, there have been several historians that spoke about the cultural accuracies of these films. I get the sense you’re just a millennial dealing with white guilt. Thought this was going to be a good video but I just can’t get past your politically correct nonsense. Add in your bad opinions on Depp and Rush and wow, you’ve really sunk your ship
So hold on hold on your saying that we shouldn’t let the “problematic” trio effect how we see these movies only talking about it for the very beginning and ending of the video (and honestly didn’t seem like you didn’t look to much on based on what you say) and now in the comments when someone brings it up you don’t even acknowledge the situation like as if you never said it at all, like at the very least you could make a defense on your statement or acknowledge that you were wrong or even better if you didn’t want to talk about something you clearly brought up don’t put it in the video to begin with
20 years after the first one....when you see them again and again.....these 5 films are "lifetime films".....Johnny Depp gave life to this character Captain Jack Sparrow
Oh, someone seems to not be up to date with the news before making bolt-ish claims. Last I checked, Amber Heard turned out to be a liar and verry abusive to Jonny Depp herselfe. So if that's the "unpleasant" things you where alluding to, you kind of picked the wrong team.
Can we all agree the series should have ended here at the end of the third film? It had high stakes, the villains were defeated, Will and Elizabeth are apart but still married, and Jack Sparrow is on his next journey. Where else can you go?
I've always liked the second and third instalments more than the first. But I love all three. I just think Davey Jones is an amazing villain and the way they expanded the universe was really well done. Barbosa was always a really interesting and fun character but he's even more interesting when he's not the main villain imo.
I do not agree with some of the points made in this video, but I respect your opinion. The trilogy is an underrated masterpiece. It was my childhood. And Captain Jack Sparrow was my childhood crush. The last two movies do not exist in my opinion. I also do not like the design changes in Jack's appearance.
The johnny depp of it all part and certain things being problematic is you REACHING! Not many if anyone complains about depictions especially with the tribe in dead mans chest....that shit did happen on isolated islands
Great analysis! Revisited these films recently and was completely reminded of just how incredible they still are. Would love to know what the background song is that's playing around 6:30.
The pirates trilogy has always been amazing to me growing up. 4 was a disappointment, but not the worst thing. Preferably removing the character that takes Jack's identity. The dynamic for me was uninteresting or cringe. The story would have been better if it was simply a race to get to the fountain of youth. Thay being said, it's not the pirates movie I would put on if I was to watch one on movie night but I would watch it again. There are things about the movie I really enjoy. I saw the 5th movie outside of the US, I am not sure the quality of the movie. Like there were absolutely massive plot holes that I could ha e solved right after the movie, or they directly ignored what they layed put previously. Jack sparrow was in enjoyable and nothing else redeemed that. It seems like they ram put of budget halfway through and just ended it. My point is the trilogy is the nest by far, but the 4th got more hate than it deserved. Myself included.
I agree 4 gets more shit than it deserves. In my opinion it’s not bad at all. Is it at the level of the trilogy? Heck no. Does it expand on the trilogy? Heck no. But maybe that’s the point of the 4th. To be a small footnote. Johnny Depp is still classic Sparrow, unlike the 5th movie. And I like that 4 doesn’t tamper with the trilogy, unlike 5, that retcons a lot of stuff in a cheaper way. I also like that we see jack once again set aside his selfish impulses to save a person he cares about (Angelica)
Wonderful video!!! Unfortunately though I became super bummed to hear you play into & help to perpetuate the b.s. regarding Johnny Depp and others unnecessarily, considering you agree it shouldn’t affect the enjoyment and nostalgia of the movies themselves. Your virtue signaling with what you consider to be culturally inappropriate scenes in the movie does not really make sense considering what the reality of the storytelling is trying to get across. I would wager that you could not find a single movie to fit your "NERF THE WORLD" thought structure. One that was not literally created with the total focus of not offending anyone in existence. Leave out the all the virtue signals and cultural World Nerfing opinions and you’re GOLDEN!!!
Why oh why! does everyone say the sequels were underrated? I think they were very well received globally. They both combined for 2 billion at the box office. I personally would put the Pirates trilogy up there or even over franchises like LOTR and Harry Potter
am I the only one that never understood this take or what? like did everyone just think these movies were bad? I always loved 2 and 3, sure 3 is a little messy but its still has so many great elements to write it off completely is stupid, now 4 and 5 i can see this argument but 2 and 3? I don't get it, they've always been amongst my favourite movies if for no other reason than Davy Jones alone.
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Somebody really hated the sequels? I can understand 4 and 5, but the trilogy is almost universally loved.
some people are actually too simple to understand the complexity of the plot in the 2nd and third movie. (More the third then the second). I personally loved the trillogy, 4 isn't cannon and five was just too sad for me to watch. (Depp really was a shell of a shell of the man he was during the first 3)
They just weren’t as good as Curse Of The Black Pearl was . Still great but just shows how incredible of a movie the 1st was. The trilogy as a whole is still pretty amazing
@@bigdog3628 To be fair though 3 could've been much shorter. Like shit man I just rewatched them. Got to the scene when they trade Will and Jack and right before that AI was thinking "Oh shit we almost done..."
Then I was like "Holy fuck there is an entire ass hour left."
Granted the movie was better than I remembered. I actually liked it more than I did back then but shit dude 3 could've been much shorter lol.
@@brycebirkinbine4119 i disagree, the long ass movie is all a great buildup to the final battle and super character work, the third act wouldn't be as affective if there were cuts
I honestly liked 4. It works very well as just a standalone Jack Sparrow movie not connected to closely to the rest. The only returning characters are Ginbs, Jack, and Hector
I HEAVILY disagree that the score in Curse of the Black Pearl is bad. It’s my favorite Pirates score just because of how adventurous it is.
Dawg the score where the pirates walk underwater😩
Its literally known as one of the most iconic scores out there, certainly for big action cinema in the early 2000s, anyone who says otherwise has no idea
Johnny Depp and Geoffrey Rush are unpleasant? Why?
In Depps case, if you’re referring to the Amber Heard incedent, she was proven to be a liar and lost favor of her fans and family from all the Courtroom Drama she cultivated.
Yeah Depp isn’t an Angel either(drugs and all) but he has proven multiple times he’s never abused anyone. He also isn’t the one to take a shit in someone’s bed either, unlike Amber.
I’m not so sure about Geoffrey but everyone who’s met him has said he’s a great guy as far as I know so I’m not sure where you got that from either.
agree with you, but also feel he does a pretty good job of bringing up stuff that isn't fun to bring up
Yeah idk wtf he’s goin on about
I too believe he was on crack
Well he also said we all forgot about These sequel movies too …so…
@@theclericbeast4real Probably the obligatory woke disclaimers. He said he’s active on Twitter, probably shared that there too and wanted to be on the clear from the woke mob.
Pirates of the Caribbean has such incredible cinematography even Davey Jones looks amazing still holds up to this day
the CGI was indeed ahead of its time. Even for the 1st movie, whenever they shift the Black Pearl's damned crew to skeleton when there's a moon light still astounds me. What a movie, and the trilogy still stands as one of the best movie ever created. I like the 4th as well (not as much as the trilogy though); and the 5th installation is just boring af
You can never fault cinematographer Dariusz Wolski, the man is a legend!
The "Johnny Depp of it all"? What exactly is that suppose to mean? A man abused by his wife, forced out of his job, and treated like garbage somehow makes this movie bad?
Yeah cause Sparrow is Depp and Depp is Sparrow whatever bad or good thing happens to one it will affect the other
So when Depp got abused Sparrow became. . . less of his former self
@@morgansoul2651 sparrow became more of himself, he became a symbol along with Johnny. That men can be abused and how fucked the system is behind that
That part made absolutely no sense to me
@@mrpunjabi8606 Not in the fifth movie, which is what is being talked abput here.
Please don't pretend Johnny is a saint. He is a known dick on sets, shows up late on sets intoxicated and there is proof of him hitting amber heard as well. I am not amber heard fan but that's the truth
What did Johnny Depp do other than be victimized and demonized for years?
We live in a world where when the accuser is a woman they have to be believed otherwise you aren't supporting them, thats how people actually think today its shocking
How about being a legal pedophile and hooking up with chicks that are 10 to fucking 23(!!) years younger than he?
And then they wonder that their relationships turn into shit-fests...
nothing but people love amber heards old evidence-less defamation.
What did Geoffrey Rush and Terry Rossio do? Haven't heard anything about them.
@@alfredvickers4054 One of them is an anti-vaxxer. The other... well your guess is as good as mine.
The original trilogy worked when it focused on the trio of Jack, Will and Elizabeth. The sequels went stale afterwards as it lacked characters that we cared about.
They can’t just make the same movie three times in a row
And often the first movie is used to introduce the main characters for example Star Wars a new hope introduces the characters then return of the Jedi has a lot more characters and moves faster
@@darthskeletand1488 very ironic because return of the Jedi is the most slow-paced and boring movie of the original trilogy.
@@RockemSockem95 it’s boring but it moves faster like a lot of different scenes instead of the same stuff if you know what I mean
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What? Empire's pacing is the slowest
Nah you off for that mad disrespect to Geoff and Johnny in the beginning and I’m takin my like back
well said!
Cry
@@hybridcompy7692 bruh moment
I’ve never heard any wrongdoings from the two lol.
ong lol
Disagree slightly on the "problematic" aspects. I always thought the way the story was told resembled the tale of an old sailor, with all the exaggerations and weird stuff. So the fact that the chinese pirates have spent so much time in their bathhouse that fungi were growing on them was hilarious to me, not racist or problematic. Of course nobody wanted to say that that is how it really is or was. Same with the cannibals.
But great video!
Tbh I can't think of a single problematic representation in the movie. All the pirates of different races were treated as equals, the women were pretty much all empowered (Elizabeth obviously, the one Jack owed a boat to in the first movie, even the prostitutes wouldn't take shit from Jack and were constantly slapping him for his BS). As for the cannibals, I thought they were handled quite tastefully. It's not like cannibalistic cultures didn't exist, and they weren't really savages. They had a culture, built huts, bridges and roads, and had tools, agriculture, and a seemingly sophisticated language. Any stereotypes, as you've stated, were exaggerated beyond the point of believability, and as such couldn't be taken seriously. The only thing that might be bad was the voodoo lady from movie 2, but in movie 3 you find out that she can only do voodoo since she's the literal vessel of a god, so I think it slides.
@@pewpewpandas9203 what is so problematic about voodoo?
@@pewpewpandas9203 Voodoo is popularly practiced in the Caribbean _today_. 200 years ago it was all over the place in the Caribbean, as well as Africa. Honestly, other than the actual happenings in the movie, it's really quite historically accurate. The producers really did their homework.
@@TomatoFettuccini Fair enough. It's not that I think it was problematic that voodoo was shown at all, I just worry that it wasn't shown properly. I'm not at all an expert on voodoo or how it's practiced, but I worry that for the use of it in the movie, they probably didn't look into it too much. It would be like how American Indians are often portrayed in movies as generic tribes people with mystical knowledge of nature and feather headdresses. It's taking the aesthetic without respecting the actual culture. I don't know if that's the case for sure, as again I don't really know much about voodoo, but I think it's a safe bet to make.
@@pewpewpandas9203 maybe do some research before jumping to conclusions
So you’re calling people who were literally proven innocent of their crazy accusations problematic? Wow
I dislike Johnny Depp for his West Memphis 3 connection...,
but that's just me..
That's a choice I made.
Not a decision I let Hollywood gossip decide for me.
@@TheHardys01 so you’re in the habit of attacking innocent ppl, got it. You boycott Peter Jackson and all the other people who helped free those guys after DNA evidence proved them innocent?
@@gonzofilmreviews
Mate, If we were face to face you'd be getting smacked up for the amount of assuming you're doing.
&For you to defend that situation means you either know nothing of the occult & witchcraft, or are well educated in such arts, and looking to defend any fellow practicers.
& Lastly I'll tell you this,
If you really are just that ignorant, here's some news for you..
If you knew the full extent of the corruption within this world you were born into, you would take the concept of a boycott more seriously.
Many of the struggles you face throughout your daily life( *cough* *cough* gasoline) could be aided if folks were unite and boycott against the proper organizations.
@fee foo no he wasn’t. A judge without a jury unilaterally made a fuckhead decision that shocked every lawyer who’s seen the actual evidence. In Virginia, with a jury, and no cherry-picking of the evidence, it is all laid out in the fairfax documents. She literally lied. There are pictures of her the day of her alleged “attacks” with ZERO injuries. Laughing. Read past a biased headline, bot
@fee foo Where exactly? and don't say Britain. That was a lawsuit against a magazine.
Yea, sorry man. I literally just listened to the entire Curse of the Black Pearl soundtrack two days ago and I was thrilled with every song but one. Yes the iconic songs are great (Hans worked on one of the songs), but listen to Underwater March, or Barbossa's Hungry, or anything from the battle between the British soldiers and the cursed crew. They are phenomenal, amongst other tracks. Hans Zimmer was masterful in DMC and AWE, but to say that Debault's soundtrack is "bad" is a bad take.
Yeah that part of the video really threw me off. Sure the soundtrack was better in DMC and AWE, but was CBP’s ost actually bad? Not every single piece of music has to be crazy memorable, it just needs to serve the scene well. From my few watched Pirates 1’s music serves it’s purpose well.
@@anrick1362 completely agree
It's not even as if Hans didn't write those tracks either.
His name is Klaus Badelt, not Debault.
Just finished a marathon of the Gore Verbinski _Pirates_ trilogy, and I totally agree. These films are awesome! Fun, sexy, romantic, hilarious, full of heart (in more ways than one), often surprisingly moving, and breathtakingly beautiful.
I mean, Keira did have a few other action roles like King Arthur, Domino and Jack Ryan. It seems to be that she opted away from anything too big and mainstream, because she got famous so young, and the limelight was so overwhelming she admits to being unable to leave her house for a while. She got two Oscar nominations in that time as well, so her career direction seems to be entirely her choice. Agreed about her performance though. Elizabeth is the GOAT of the franchise
I think you’d better look into Depp and Geoffrey Rush before you call them problematic. Know the whole story, do more research. Because if you’re referring to Depp and Amber, the case came out that she was the abuser, not him. And as for Geoffrey Rush, he was proven innocent on any allegations. I would take proving of innocence to be a pretty credible source for this opinion. Other than that, good video, but was taken out of it a bit.
You do not know these men and women. Quit acting like you do.
@@TheHardys01 he never claimed to know these men
@@TheHardys01 Bruh there is a literal mountain of evidence showing Heard abused Depp in all the ways a person can be abused. Heard's defense can't bring an OUNCE of actual evidence he abused her. Her story has changed a million times. Her lies keep being exposed. All her legal team can do is attack Depp for his addiction troubles like being an addict makes you a bad person - which is so backwards it's infuriating.
Depp has the the evidence. He has the character witnesses. He has the composure. He hasn't changed his story.
Depp is innocent.
I’ve always thought the first 3 movies are incredible and it always annoys me when someone says the other two are bad, the first one prob is objectively the best but personally I just love all 3, watched them so many times and there’s just nothing else like it
Lots of people myself included think the second moovie is the best of the trilogy
My issue is that the third one is too messy, there is too much plot crammed together. It felt like two movies in one. But it’s still not bad
@@franck4727 I agree! The second one is a perfect blockbuster
You said, in reference to "icky people" that: "If someone wanted to discard the films because of this, that's fair".
I'm pretty sure that's the polar opposite of "fair". Judging a work of art simply by the people who made is ridiculous, and frankly, and insult to all art and art criticism. Made even worse by the fact that Depp didn't even do the things he was accused of at the time. You should be embarrassed by this statement.
Johnny Depp's moral fiber only serves to add more merit to these films. I know nothing of Barbosa guy, except that he won his defamation case. I can't say whether the court ruled correctly, but it's worth noting that it ruled in his favor. As for the writer, googling him got nothing negative, so I'd be inclined to believe any incident wasn't particularly noteworthy. With all that said, it's likely that neglecting to mention a word about these three would've produced less of a reaction than actually including the disclaimer did
I do not understand the attacks on Rush and Depp. From all of the actual evidence I’ve seen for Depp and stuff I’ve heard about both Depp and Rush, they are both wonderful people, and wonderful to be around and work with.
Yes, too bad most channels have to rush to judgement based on big corporation media lies to cater to a small amount of woke weirdos, which is on its way out of fashion and people will not look back on this trend with much fondness. With that said the first 3 pirates films are very enjoyable and well made, they will stand the test of time!
Depp was vindicated in court, I hope he isn't blacklisted anymore.
yeah. some friends of mine met both of them and their both super cool people.
What did Geoffrey Rush do?
@@theangrypotato1525sexual misconduct
What's the problem with Johnny Depp, his alcoholism aside, maybe. He has a heart of gold.
He’s referring to the Amber Heard alleged DV situation. I’m guessing he hasn’t followed the case.
People love shitting on addicts. Even self proclaimed progressives.
Keira Knightleys performance is amazing and Elizabeth Swann is my favorite character of this trilogy!
I don’t care how many people may complain that it’s too campy, watching Barbosa officiate a wedding while in battle will always be one of the funniest things I ever watch
He’s one of the few characters I actually enjoy watching. Will and Elizabeth are so boring
Loved this video. I'd disagree on some points, but not because I think you're wrong, I'm just a weirdo. You see, I thought the Keith Richards cameo was great, from a storytelling perspective. From the sound of it, it was going to happen whether anyone wanted it to or not, but the way they handled it was genius, I think.
First, they assigned Richards to an essential plot device: Keeper of the Code, a Lawful-Neutral character scary enough to force the Brethern Court to act outside of their kneejerk, selfish instincts, and someone who can ultimately be pointed like a weapon by anyone clever enough to game the rules. He's a character the story needed to move forward regardless of who played him or what his relationship to Jack was.
And from a meta-perspective, it just makes sense that Jack's "Mother Mary" is Keith Richards. Also, I think it's hilarious that two legendary Pirate Lords were at a stalemate, so one told on the other to his dad.
And also, to see them side by side, they are beautiful.
On top of that, the most horrific, terrifying-looking pirate in the entire franschise is Keith Richards' Captain Teague. Seeing THAT FACE coming at you would be more than sufficient cause to turn tail and run for your life!
I know this is random, but I like your profile pic
I love the sequels so much. DMC and AWE are two of my all time favorite movies, so much so that I couldn't tell you how long it's been since I even watched the first one. Davy Jones and his crew are so fascinating to me, the design, the personality, the Flying Dutchman. It's all just so fucking cool for cool's sake and I love it. I'm 23, and I've been watching these since they came out, and I'll be watching them for the rest of my life. 10/10 will watch again
Right there with you. While the first is still great, I'll take 2 and 3 over it any day
Completely agreed. I enjoy DMC AND AWE more with each viewing. First film was alot of fun, and was a great jumping off point for these characters. But I'll always prefer the next two. The Davy Jones saga alone elevates the movies, and the story itself is extremely ambitious. And good grief-- the ENDING of At World's End? A bittersweet and even tragic finale for all involved. I don't think it would have ended in such bleak fashion if these movies had been made in the last 5-7 years.
Love these movies!!
For anybody who is always praising the first movie to be the best. I have been studying 1-3 and I constantly re-watch them. Pirates of the Caribbean does not go downhill in writing after the first movie. That is your business to believe that opinion everyone else goes with.
Dead man’s chest gave the characters more depth! Elizabeth and William barely have anything to work with in the first movie. William’s relationship with his father that was hinted in the first movie of his father‘s existence. Paid off wonderfully. William’s character had way more in depth now and you have something to truly care about him for. You get both perspectives when you understand their Reunion! Bootstrap didn’t want Will to become a pirate like him, he wanted him to have a free life from the pirate life. William had a hard time accepting he was half Pirate but when he accepted his life and his father… He has a new journey to stab the heart of Davy Jones to set his father free.
And you’re implying William is better in the first movie just because he wanted to save the girl he loved? William in the second movie now has Elizabeth as a lover. And now a new journey to rescue his father someone else he cares about. And this became a difficult situation when bootstrap told Elizabeth at world‘s end. William has to make a decision. Either don’t kill Davy Jones so he can be with you. Or he does kill Davy Jones and set me free, but he won’t be able to be on land for 10 years. If I were him I wouldn’t pick me! :/ The emotional weight on William’s character gets better and better.
Elizabeth in the first movie was just a damsel in distress girl. She wasn’t useless in the first movie but you get the point. In the second movie, Elizabeth learned to wield a sword and she used it in the battle. She pulled a gun to Beckett‘s head.. went on her own journey to save will.
She has grown a lot since the first movie who was just an innocent girl! Elizabeth got better as a character in 2 and 3!
As for Jack sparrow. He does not become a joke at all in all 3 movies.
Jack sparrow is at his best in the second movie and in the third movie. There was a moment in dead men’s chest… Where Jack didn’t know what he truly wanted so the compass couldn’t locate what he desired. So when Elizabeth went on her journey and then found Jack.. Jack used her for his advantage! He took advantage of Elizabeth’s feelings by telling her if you want to save Will you have to want to find the chest of Davy Jones! In order to get will back.. That’s why Jack gave her the compass. Jack knew if he couldn’t figure what he wanted out he was going to get it out of Elizabeth. Since Elizabeth now wants to find the chest of Davy Jones to save will. This gives Jack the huge opportunity to find the chest to stab the heart in it. But instead he wants to control DavyJones before killing him. Jack sparrow is not stupid! When will was trying to stab the heart towards the end of the second movie. Jack knows just because Davy Jones is dead, does not mean the Kraken will be stopped as well. And you’re telling me Jack is dumb after part 1??
As for Beckett. He was a well executed villain who uses dialogue and negotiation to control people. The Reason why Beckett didn’t fire his cannons at worlds end. Was because it would be totally out of his character to use weapons. Beckett uses certain words to get through people and how to control them behind the scenes. Beckett at the end of the movie had nothing left to negotiate with. Davy Jones was dead, Jack sparrow is alive and well. Will Turner is now the new captain of the Flying Dutchman. Beckett had literally nothing to use against on people. He was caught in shocked and he decided to die..
Anyways I could defend the Gore Verbinski’s Trilogy all night. His trilogy is an underrated trilogy. It had great character writing and amazing detail of its depth.
Also Will vs Davy Jones!!! 😈😈😈
when Will challenging Davy Jones.
Davy Jones asks him how do you know about the key?
Will replies and says, that's NOT part of the game is it? 😏 You can STILL walk away!! 😏
As for pirates 4/5 they are not even Canon they are filler movies. The story ended at worlds end! ☠️
You expressed my thoughts perfectly though I probably wouldn’t be able to phrase them as eloquently.
Elizabeth is easily one of my favorite characters of all time. Despite being the damsel in distress she is never helpless and takes advantage of any opportunity to improve her situation. Throughout the trilogy she regularly fools the people around her. Like how she poses as a maid of the manor assuming that they would try to ransom her otherwise. Or how she not only surmise the purpose of the raid on port royal but also called out their bluff when they stated otherwise. Her quick-wittedness isn’t as overt in the following two films but it’s still a big characteristic of hers that I love.
Yeah I always say there's a difference between writing you don't understand or like and bad writing period
4 and 5 is canon sadly its just not pirates truly. They laminate on another pirate in the world aka blackbeard and the last one killed a future character off forsure but shows up things the comics talk about that even the beginning trilogy never answered only hinted at
I thought I was the only one that felt this way about World's End. I wasn't the biggest fan of Dead Man's chest, loved the effects, loved the setups, but World's End captivated me from beginning to end. I was ROOTING for Elizabeth. She was legitimately bad-ass, and I would've loved to see some pirate spin-off films with her. I even cared about Will! The way the story came together, and the full on ridiculousness, absurdity, and even mild psychedelia floored me. Then I found out that most people I knew I didn't like it at all. Although straight up, I disagree with you on the Johnny Depp of it all comment. And the Keith Richards jibe. That scene was a brilliant surprise for me in theatres. Knowing that he had in part been a large inspiration to Depp for Captain Jack, and then actually SEEING the man himself show up as his father? I loved every minute of it.
As for the actors off-set. Pretty sure Rush was accused of something but I never heard of it again so I assume there was nothing there and Depp has a massive wave of support right now as it appears things are headed towards Amber Heard being exposed as a liar and an abuser which I hope to some degree allows Johnny the peace of mind to focus and get back in the right mindset for his craft and give us more great moments
Well Johnny won idk what you were talking about in this video Disney dropped him and considered him guilty before proven innocent like you.
Also at the time of this video we’re you updated with the news because you seemed to be lost bro
I'm so glad people are starting to appreciate these films for the masterpieces they are
The Curse of the Black Pearl, Dead Man’s Chest and At World’s End form an amazing, under appreciated, trilogy!
Couldn't get three minutes into this video without it turning into a big political/race speech that no one gives a crap about. Also would you care to explain what exactly is wrong with Johnny Depp and Geofrey Rush? Don't tell me they made a somewhat racist joke years ago and you got offended
Guarantee you excuse wrongdoing...
However, I would also like him to state what the actual issue is.
I hope he isn’t referring to the Amber Heard allegations as what makes Depp problematic. Because they are quite literally false. Depp isn’t an angel or saint, but in that situation he seems to be the main victim and he got shit on by Hollywood for it. As for Rush, I saw another person say that he had a case go to court about sexual misconduct/defamation and he won (I acknowledge that this case was against a newspaper that was defaming him, and I can’t find info about the actual sexual misconduct beyond the allegations). So yeah hope he wasn’t referring to that stuff as to what makes both the actors problematic.
@@TheHardys01 changing the world, one internet comment at a time
@@calebschwartz7048
There definitely isn't any fixing the world.
It is possible for ourselves to change tho....
I wish they could get Gore Verbinski back for another Pirates movie. He was incredible
Your comment on Johnny and Geoffrey is the only thing that’s unpleasant
Ive always loved Pirates 2 and 3. Ive always defended them. Its cool that they have aged gracefully. Especially with the CGI.
As a lot of others have pointed out in the comments, your vague attacks on Johnny Depp and rush and the 3rd guy really drags the quality of this video down. Throw in also the whole cultural problematic complaints which make no sense to me, as far as the cannibals there are actual tribes who are thought to engage in cannibalism so I don't see the problem with that, as for the bathhouse guys I never once thought that scene said anything about them as a race/ ethnicity just that those individual guys are a little crazy and did that as a fear factor cause I would of been terrified to see that.
This video could have other wise been great but not after all that.
Brilliant! Thirty two minutes of which ten could easily be shaved off. And that’s just slandering GR JD, colonialism, history etc. He doesn’t have anything to say but still does. I don’t know his motives but if I could harbour a guess - self absorbed self righteous pompous narcissistic show off.
You do know the accusations against Johnny are false right? And that he’s the one that’s a victim of abuse?
If someone wanted to discard the film because they "dislike" an actor they've almost certainly never met and who they've heard everything about from a celebrity media literally funded by the destruction of peoples lives... that would be fair? You come dangerously close to ruining this entire video because of silly statements like that, and it's a bummer, because otherwise this video is actually quite interesting and thoughtful
really.. calling innocent men problematic and saying the movie is racist. its a fucking fantasy movie with a villain who has a octopus beard... really disappointed.
Whats wrong with Geoffrey Rush? Im out of the loop
Your take on the music from the first movie is crazy
2:17 this didn’t age well, and go listen to the soundtrack again it’s one of the best parts of all the movies
That Hans Zimmer take, that the first definitely had the worst score compared to 2 - 3, is absolutely correct. Curse of the Black Pearl’s ost does sound more electronic, lacking that true orchestra richness the later movies have.
i was all set to agree with this until OP nasally whines about rush & depp for reasons nobody ever cared about to begin with
I always liked them, I disagree with the backlash. ‘We’ didn’t get it all wrong.
Whats wrong with the cannibals island? Cannibals did exist.
DMC and AWE are better than the first in my opinion!
Maybe you should put something at the start of your video to show that you didn't really have the facts to outright dismiss these people?
Geoffrey Rush won his case against the allegations and johnny deep has been fighting to clear his name against a women who admitted to being abusive.
Kinda instantly put me off being that lazy about a fictional tribe as insulting in a magical pirate film, may as well says it's anti-British for them being useless and evil.
on the whole Depp controversy wih Amber Heard I say complications arose, ensued, were overcome.
What you call 'luxury cinema' is the sort of movie you cannot watch while doing anything else. It demands your full attention, which is something we have a problem with nowadays, I think, when multi-tasking is the order of things. Thank you for a great essay!
Great video. These two sequels are something else we couldn't get more of them these days.
Johnny Depp was innocent SOB
The Johnny Depp "unpleasant in multiple credible ways" comment aged like milk.
>soy voice
>identity politics whining within first 3 minutes
like clockwork
Based
This guy has the wrong idea of these movies. Everybody loves these
Well your criticism of Johnny depp aged well didn’t it ? Lesson learned, never comment on something you don’t know the full story on
"The Johnny Depp of it all" ... oh, youre one of those...
At Worlds End is one of the most well constructed films I’ve ever seen
We've been on a pirates kick in our watching, specifically 2 and 3. They have never failed on getting us genuinely excited for movie night in ways few movies can. We'll make themed drinks, grab kids pirate hats and sword fight with pool noodles. Nearly every aspect of the original trilogy slaps
I’ve done some research on Depp, and I think you should too. It looks like he wasn’t the bad person we all thought he was. He was kind of framed by his wife, who was actually the one abusing Depp.
At World's End is my favorite Pirates movie. I love the spectacle, the weirdness, the huge amount of plot threads all coming together, and the soul of it all
Bro Johnny Depp does not make it “problematic” his wife was abusive….Read up more on it
Man I dont know but I've always loved Bill Nighy as an actor...and as Davy Jones...damn that performance was incredible. As a person that sometimes likes villains over heroes in movies, I LOVED Davy Jones (and to be honest in this trilogy there is plenty of villain/anti-heroes to chose from)
I'm a cannibal living on a cannibal island and I have no qualms with my peoples depiction.
The release of 4 and 5 really recontextualized 2 and 3. I’ve always loved them.
I think Johnny Depo deserves an entire apology video from u, it’s crazy how u draw conclusions without any evidence
Thanks!
Bro hate on my boy Johnny one more time, I fucking dare you
dead man’s chest is the best one there i said it
My favorite too davy Jones is such a good villain.
Back then I thought the sequels were okay, and I quite forgot about them to be honest. But I rewatched the series a few months ago and I loved them! It's so much better than most of the stuff published today.
And Hans Zimmer's love theme for Will and Elizabeth? Oh, what a masterpiece!
Alright, hang on. People have already addressed the “problematic” point so I won’t go there, but the “fine” cinematography point? The Star Wars sequel trilogy looks fantastic, especially The Last Jedi (which is 12th on that list you mentioned). Infinity War isn’t quite as good but it’s still well filmed.
Damn and with three minutes of one video, you’ve made me never want to watch your stuff again.
Exactly 💯
Sad about the Johnny Depp stuff. He is about to win the trial.
You have an issue with the cultural portrayals? Ummm, there have been several historians that spoke about the cultural accuracies of these films. I get the sense you’re just a millennial dealing with white guilt. Thought this was going to be a good video but I just can’t get past your politically correct nonsense. Add in your bad opinions on Depp and Rush and wow, you’ve really sunk your ship
this man spitting
the score is good in every movie. Cant forgive you for saying that lol
So hold on hold on your saying that we shouldn’t let the “problematic” trio effect how we see these movies only talking about it for the very beginning and ending of the video (and honestly didn’t seem like you didn’t look to much on based on what you say) and now in the comments when someone brings it up you don’t even acknowledge the situation like as if you never said it at all, like at the very least you could make a defense on your statement or acknowledge that you were wrong or even better if you didn’t want to talk about something you clearly brought up don’t put it in the video to begin with
20 years after the first one....when you see them again and again.....these 5 films are "lifetime films".....Johnny Depp gave life to this character Captain Jack Sparrow
What world does this guy live in?
Oh, someone seems to not be up to date with the news before making bolt-ish claims. Last I checked, Amber Heard turned out to be a liar and verry abusive to Jonny Depp herselfe. So if that's the "unpleasant" things you where alluding to, you kind of picked the wrong team.
sorry didnt johny depp get proven innocent? lol
Enjoyable but i wish you would quit with all the soyboy "yikes this is problematic!" schtick, its gets old really quick
Can we all agree the series should have ended here at the end of the third film? It had high stakes, the villains were defeated, Will and Elizabeth are apart but still married, and Jack Sparrow is on his next journey. Where else can you go?
I greatly appreciate your relishing of this Amazing Trilogy, however your take on Johnny Depp is extremely flawed and disheartening
2:16: aged like milk. Johnny finally got justice and won!
depp won. I know it's late just felt I should say it here
You made the energy of this video weird with some of your comments on the actors
What did Johnny actually do??? Can you explain
I've always liked the second and third instalments more than the first. But I love all three. I just think Davey Jones is an amazing villain and the way they expanded the universe was really well done. Barbosa was always a really interesting and fun character but he's even more interesting when he's not the main villain imo.
I won't be first and I won't be the last to say it, that hot take aged like a milk jug in the desert. Otherwise, good video
So we're calling abuse victims "icky" now. Fantastic.
I do not agree with some of the points made in this video, but I respect your opinion. The trilogy is an underrated masterpiece. It was my childhood. And Captain Jack Sparrow was my childhood crush.
The last two movies do not exist in my opinion. I also do not like the design changes in Jack's appearance.
The johnny depp of it all part and certain things being problematic is you REACHING! Not many if anyone complains about depictions especially with the tribe in dead mans chest....that shit did happen on isolated islands
Great analysis! Revisited these films recently and was completely reminded of just how incredible they still are. Would love to know what the background song is that's playing around 6:30.
It's called "Medieval Astrology" by Underbelly & Ty Mayer, and it's part of the TH-cam Audio Library: th-cam.com/video/bH5NlwQyLpA/w-d-xo.html
The pirates trilogy has always been amazing to me growing up.
4 was a disappointment, but not the worst thing. Preferably removing the character that takes Jack's identity. The dynamic for me was uninteresting or cringe. The story would have been better if it was simply a race to get to the fountain of youth. Thay being said, it's not the pirates movie I would put on if I was to watch one on movie night but I would watch it again. There are things about the movie I really enjoy.
I saw the 5th movie outside of the US, I am not sure the quality of the movie. Like there were absolutely massive plot holes that I could ha e solved right after the movie, or they directly ignored what they layed put previously. Jack sparrow was in enjoyable and nothing else redeemed that. It seems like they ram put of budget halfway through and just ended it.
My point is the trilogy is the nest by far, but the 4th got more hate than it deserved. Myself included.
I agree 4 gets more shit than it deserves. In my opinion it’s not bad at all. Is it at the level of the trilogy? Heck no. Does it expand on the trilogy? Heck no. But maybe that’s the point of the 4th. To be a small footnote. Johnny Depp is still classic Sparrow, unlike the 5th movie. And I like that 4 doesn’t tamper with the trilogy, unlike 5, that retcons a lot of stuff in a cheaper way. I also like that we see jack once again set aside his selfish impulses to save a person he cares about (Angelica)
Why do you feel compelled to say those men are "unpleasant?" And how would you really even know?
JONNY WON!!!
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The Cannibal Island in Deadman's Chest -- Awesome !
Wonderful video!!! Unfortunately though I became super bummed to hear you play into & help to perpetuate the b.s. regarding Johnny Depp and others unnecessarily, considering you agree it shouldn’t affect the enjoyment and nostalgia of the movies themselves. Your virtue signaling with what you consider to be culturally inappropriate scenes in the movie does not really make sense considering what the reality of the storytelling is trying to get across. I would wager that you could not find a single movie to fit your "NERF THE WORLD" thought structure. One that was not literally created with the total focus of not offending anyone in existence. Leave out the all the virtue signals and cultural World Nerfing opinions and you’re GOLDEN!!!
The first 3 movies are truely underrated, but the rest doesn’t really cut it for me.
Why oh why! does everyone say the sequels were underrated? I think they were very well received globally. They both combined for 2 billion at the box office. I personally would put the Pirates trilogy up there or even over franchises like LOTR and Harry Potter
am I the only one that never understood this take or what? like did everyone just think these movies were bad? I always loved 2 and 3, sure 3 is a little messy but its still has so many great elements to write it off completely is stupid, now 4 and 5 i can see this argument but 2 and 3? I don't get it, they've always been amongst my favourite movies if for no other reason than Davy Jones alone.
Davy Jones is up there with Gollum, 2005 King Kong and the Na'vi as a motion capture icon