Starting a New Orchard in the Backyard!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มิ.ย. 2024
- I can't stop planting fruit trees...and killing avocados! Join @jacquesinthegarden and I as we replant avocados for a THIRD time, move bananas around, and set up a new micro grape vineyard in the backyard of the Epic Homestead.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
00:20 - Scooping Out Avocado Area
02:15 - Placing Trees
04:53 - Planting Out
10:12 - Watering In
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I guess this video is a sign for me to stop doomscrolling and go plant my grape vines 😅.
Sh*t why you had to remind me lol. All my vines sitting in pots somewhere waiting patiently.
I'll put it on the list for this weekend.
😂😂
Everytime one of you drops a video my depression is paused and I enjoy 10 to 15 mins of plants👌🏽
Means a lot
Mark @selfsufficentme made a good observation on the avocados saying that once the tap root hits clay it’s done for so he planted his on top of mound’s instead of mounding around the tree
Gary (from Laguna hills nursery) has several videos posted on the major problems behind avocado health issues and it has a ton to do with the soil they use to pot them up. It is loaded with filler like wood chips and bark waste as its cheaper to ship/acquire. This isn't great for plants in general but avocados are very sensitive to root rot and decaying matter around the root ball. The second I started washing off the root ball and planting directly into my sandy native soil...they started doing great. Just don't mix in anything that isn't fully decayed and gypsum helps as well.
I’ve struggled with avocado growing for about 6 years. I must have found what works because I’m about to harvest 11 Hass avocados for the first time. Million dollar avocados!
Rule of thumb, protect the shallow roots and shade whilst it’s young and vulnerable.
You need to get rid of most of the pups on the banana so that the mother grows stronger and not give up energy to every next gen(You want only one or two pup to have the energy). Also that blue java gets very large and will tilt a lot so be aware of it leaning to the fence or the other banana. When cutting the leaves, use the leaves as mulch and don't over water them, it'll kill the rhizome very fast.
Great advice!
I have probably 75 Blue Lavas and they do very well in bunches. The pups actually grows and protects the mother tree. Each of my clusters I have about 10 in a bunch and they all get to be about 15-20ft tall . They also protect the mother tree when it gets bananas to keep from leaning or falling over when heavy from fruit. The pups become the mother trees following year so I thin them out then to what is needed . Each year I end up giving away roughly 200 trees but key is to keep them in clusters where the mother is surrounded with protection. I use the dead leaves and old plants as my fertilize around my trees as it’s all they need . I have let one bunch have 20 trees in a bunch and they all thrived and produced even more so then. I hope this helps but been growing these for a long time now and they are very easy to grow and hard to go wrong.
lol you're completely wrong from a grower in cold climate I perfected bananas you don't need to get rid of pups it will make all the plants work together and the one with the most sun will thrive doesn't have to be the biggest at first. Blue java isn't that big just compared to other popular bananas in America it is you got the mulch part right but the over watering wrong you can basically grow a banana hydroponically a lot of people grow them next to lakes and you know lake levels rise etc.
You only want 2 pups and 1 main stem on the banana, as the main central leader with two followers. Once the main has produced fruit it’ll die off, so you chop it at the base. Next largest pup becomes the leader and you want two smaller followers. Also they are heavy feeders!
I love the chemistry between you and Jacques and the intros! And every video is really insightful and I learn a lot, even if it is not about something I will do in my garden in the near future
I would have removed most of the pups from the cavendish while you had it out of the ground, leaving a couple is generally advised and might hopefully stop producing piles more for a while. Probably a bit close together too, their canopies will overlap once they're bigger and shade each other out. Good luck, I planted my Blue Java at about that size a year ago and it's fruiting already in relatively similar climate so hopefully success for you next year!
Me being from the Caribbean almost every house here has a banana and an avocado tree in their backyard i feel sorry for your struggle. Hope those trees make it❤
Such a beautiful thing!
Where I am in the San Francisco Bay Area, we don't have banana trees around, but there are lots of avocados. The squirrels love them lol. We have lots and lots of lemon trees around and almost as many orange trees. I guess I always assumed it was easy to grow the avocados because I see them so often!
en pr no hay problema con crecer aguacates es la primera vez que escucho eso
Avocados can be seriously finicky if you’re not in an ideal environment. Mine has struggled, and I’ve killed my fair share too.
Bananas LOVE water, almost can't get enough! On the Gulf Coast which is a lot of wet savannah and swampland, and everyone grows them as landscaping plants but most never fruit. The ones I've seen fruit are much older and larger and always clumped up tightly with each other.
I planted an Avocado tree in my yard that one of my gardening clients propagated by seed about 20+ years ago. My soil shamefully was just Florida sand. It took 7 years to get fruit from being propagated from the seed. The fruit did not taste so great, the leaves are litterbugs and do not degrade quickly. Long story short, I had it cut down, stump ground just this year. My son planted 8 Southern Blueberry shrubs, four varieties in all in the place where the Avocado tree used to grown.
I wish you better luck with your Avocado tree. Just be careful not to put it to close to foundations or overhead wires. They can get pretty big.
I've learned the hard way to grow avacados the same as self sufficient me in clay. They hate clay. Best to plant them in a large mound above the clay with no digging. You just dug yourself a big water bowl for those roots to sit in. I'd would dig a trench for drainage if I were you. Or replant in a mound. Good luck sirs
You can propagate those grapes from a piece of green stalk placed in a pot of soil. (if you want more plants).
y'all are goofy as all HECK walking in and chuckling like that. and i love it
Good luck with your avocado trees. Have you not watched Mark's video on Self Sufficient Me? Mark has his avocado trees on a mound at least 3 foot high. I was thinking plant them in a Birdie's raised bed???? I have already killed 3 by just trying to do a 1 foot raised mound.
Would recommend some heavy mulch (6"+) around your bananas and feed them with as much fertilizer, compost, chicken waste, etc. That you can get your hands on. They are extremely heavy feeders. Water constantly. Its the only way I got mine to fruit. Limit each plant to 3-4 shoots; replant the pups elsewhere. Hope this helps.
For the grapes I would put in a trellis like you did with the raspberries and blackberries. You can then train the vines to grow along the wires.
Avocado’s are understory trees. Labels always say “full sun” but I disagree. I would recommend you create more of an agroforestry system and add in some support species that you can harvest later when the fruit trees become more mature.
My personal favorites are eucalyptus for developing a quick emergent layer, and Guajes for nitrogen fixation, shade, and chop and drop. I’d also recommend mexican sunflower.
I realize that many people are hesitant to plant support species along side fruit trees. They do not need to remain in the system permanently, but will help ensure success overall.
Just my opinion after years of trial and error.
Lychee! Did you know that you can eat the banana tree pups? In Khmer culture we make soup out of the young trunks, it’s refreshing and delicious!
It is a privilege to watch this. I love these moments before planting a perennial. Seeing the potential and working out all the different ways it could look or relate to other parts in the garden is so fun.
Totally! My imagination runs wild every time I plant a perennial as well. I'm trying to force myself to also imagine it dying so I don't get so disappointed when it does, but it's just so dang exciting if it works out! :)
Honestly I'm a experienced gardener at this point so I don't even watch for the gardening knowledge anymore. I just watch because y'all are hilarious 😂
We have a large pecan tree, would love to add some fruit trees as well. Hope you keep us posted on the progress of these new additions! 💚
I die a little more inside every time Kevin says “cuh-VEN-dish”.
Im in Goodyear, AZ and I planted my aguacate tree about 2 feet above my ground level I also got my auger and drilled down 2 feet below ground level so far so good. All the original leafs have fallen off but it's had an explosion of new growth
Can't wait for the updates on these!!! You gotta plant way more fruit trees though haha You're zone 10... there's so many you can grow!
Mulch dem mounds y'all. Love your vids together; You're too funny, and you teach me a bunch! Thank yous!
You two are such cute Pals!!!
greetings from the Netherlands... bought me the property next to my own garden last year (horse pasture with fruits trees on it already... 4 big apple trees (and i mean BIG!, harvest with 2 piece ladder.. lol)) and 2 cherrytrees and 2 huge wallnuttrees... ... now i added 6 pear trees, 2 plum trees, 2 vig trees and 4 more apples... i also transplanted 2 of my old grapes to this lot (sun all day + wall to lead the grapes). the weather here normally is not suited (yet) for citrus, so i have to make do with what i planted now ;)
You guys make me happy! Educational, funny, and dem legs... hubba hubba! 😁
I’d use a string net for the grapes and tie it to the top of the fence, then run it down at an angle to the base of the grapes.
My best avocado success came from a seed that popped up in my old compost bed, morning sun to part shade. I’ve left it there for several years and I’m hoping for fruit this year!
You will need to graft it from a tree that has produced fruit. Otherwise the chance of it fruiting are very small.
Good luck with the avocados!🤞As a fellow budding backyard orchardist in SD (who has also killed a couple avocados already) I have some random thoughts:
1. Make sure you mulch that avocado mound!
2. The 2-in-1 hole could work though I think those are tough varieties for that setup and I'd probably use a bigger hole. They're both pretty aggressive and like to spread horizontally. I think something like Reed + Pinketon would've worked a bit better for that tight spacing.
3. Cavendish is a more tropical variety so I think they are less vigorous in our area. Ice cream should be a good one. I forget if you said it's blue java, but note that namwah bananas are also sold as "ice cream" bananas. I got tricked when I bought mine but apparently namwah don't require staking when they fruit (vs blue java which does require it) and there's some debate about which one tastes better.
4. I always do the Jacque donut technique when I plant new trees to create a berm so that the water penetrates the rootball instead of running off. I do think this has helped my newer trees get established better though it's just anecdotal.
5. Good luck with the lychee. I have an air layer I've been waiting to put in the ground. Apparently they are super weak to wind and are a bit fussy about having acidic soil so it sounds like applying some conditioner is worth it. I'm planting a longan tree today that I got over the weekend, they like our alkaline soil and generally are much more suited to our climate, and I think the fruit is just as delicious!
I've recently started watching these more recent videos of you and Jacque, and the coordinated laugh creeps me out every single time LOL I liked when you used to silently pop out of a plant and launch right into the subject. Do a dual 'pop up' for me sometime!
A fire ring would have worked really well with the avocado plants.
Good luck with the avos. I have both those varieties. Haas in front yard and Fuerte in back. Fertilize 4x a year with avo/citrus food. The Fuerte grows like a weed. We have to cut it back every year so it doesn’t grow over our house. Not sure about that 2 in 1 hole method. We are surrounded by orchards in Carpinteria and they are all 10-15 apart with drip irrigation.
I suggest not to grow anymore than grapes. Vines are attractive to rodents for nesting. Plus it’s really hard to maintain them once they jump the fence to your neighbors yard. With all the fruit you’ll be attracting possums, raccoons and rats. Best not to give them a place to nest in the vines. Love your vlog!
You are both so funny. I loved when he kicked the bag of soil lol😂 hilarious editing
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I've killed 4 avocados here in CV as well. From what I've read the Zutano rootstock that is used commercially on most trees does not do well with our highly saline water and clay soil. Some of the more exotic nurseries up north in Fallbrook area have more varied clonal rootstock that may work better.
I once had 25 avocado trees. Now I'm down to 8. I have never planted 2 together. Mine are at least 10 feet apart from one another. Your soil is very much a part in how your tree is going to grow. They won't live in clay. I have dg but still added amendments to the soil. They also don't get watered for hours at a time. They get watered 1 hrs every week. Since the price of water has gone sky high I had to pick only 4 to keep. It breaks my heart to let half die. If you could dig them out I'd be glad to give them to you. I also saved 1 pomegranate, 1 mango and 3 oranges. So that's just on the top part of the property. I am starting my veg garden on the lower part and have numerous flowers. That's why I can't save the rest of the avos.
id love to try and take your avocado tree if your giving them away? I live in bonita in san diego
As far as avocados are concerned, I remember watching something a few years ago where the farmers would spray a mixture of fish and fish oils with water onto the soil in order to help the trees, and it really did a good job. Might be worth considering to see if it helps this time.
I believe those avocado farmers were out of Sacramento. If memory serves the fish that they used was anchovy I think.
Fish hydrolysate is a natural organic fertilizer, it's amino acids instead of minerals, and that's perfect. Plants don't like minerals, it's not their natural way to absorb nutrients (the natural way is called the rhizophagy cycle, only been discovered in 2018).
I watched a garden hack video a long time ago, and one of the tricks was to throw a small fish into the potting hole of a tomato(?)...maybe these are utilizing the same concept that fish contains beneficial nutrients that the plant is able to take in. I believe the fish thing was a really old hack during times when fertilizers weren't produced and sold yet...
@@noora7773 if by 'hack' you mean that the natives used it when planting corn then yes.
Love this! We have a similarly sized lot in in 9b/10a and also dedicated an area as orchard. There was a thriving pomegranate and large loquat (that started thriving with a little care) when we moved in. Now we filled the area around those with a dozen more trees - mulberry, guava, peach... Can't wait for it all to get going. Thanks for all your inspiration always! (Planted a citrus hedge earlier this year inspired by yours).
Your orchard sounds delicious! What a combination.
Trellis idea I'd say arched cattle panel trellis or some sort of tunnel like that. I think it would be a neat little hidey-hole in the garden. I actually wanted to do this in my garden to read under or for our friends kids to play fort in but I really don't have the space .
I love the term 'casual elegance'. Definitely going to start using that 😂
I don't know what it is, but hearing you guys laugh before the videos makes me laugh every time lol
For grapes a Y style trellis works best. Build 2 Y shaped timber supports on the sides and strong wire run between the two. Dm me if that is confusing
The videographer and editing are SPECTACULAR. Exceptionally creative. I appreciate the efforts.
Banana trees love lots of water and mulch❤ ,your garden is looking great!
I wants to plants a backyard fruit tree orchard, we've already got an apple tree, (which is giving us apples for the first time in years,) and I can't wait to grow more!
Absolutely love you guys!!! I need to buy seeds from you soon. 😁 any who… I’m in TN and started a peach orchard, they are fabulous! I do have a Plant and Soil Science degree and you guys are on point with your planting advice. 👏👏👏
Good luck with the Avocado trees. This video cheered me up after coming home to find a fox dug a massive hole in my flowerbed and used it as a toilet.
Jacques remembers his phone but forgets his hat...? Can the mothership beam down the real Jacques, in the garden...?
I was about to say the same thing, where is his hat?! It’s not on the epic gardening store yet! 😂
Are the avocado tree's planted to close together? What about room for future growth?❤🥑
Two close 🤣
Avocados hate the cold of winter,its a good idea to cover them with clear plastic (loosely over them)for the first one or two winters,and remove when they get warm
Trellis idea. Pergola with attachment point for either a hammock or a hanging bench swing.
No on the avocados 😬 Way too close. They get big faster than you think. Even the first few years. You might want to rethink it while you can still move one. We’re in the same area as you, just a little East and have started a few avocados in the last couple of years, as well has having a few established trees.
Now we will be buying a banana to plant! Enjoy your videos (and the darn Birdies beds, which I’m up to nine of!).
I didn't catch why you put 2 avocado trees in the same hole.
this hits me directly in the chest-- I am also on my THIRD avo tree (orange county, CA) and it's been over a year and it looks like this one is going to die, as well. For whatever reason, they do not do well in my terrible soil-- even if loaded w/rocks and well-draining soil to assure it doesn't get root rot... I MIGHT try one more time, in a container.
Hi Kevin, I noticed you have a curry leaf plant (real good one) in your green house. Can you please do a care guide video on that one. Also can you please include some tips for cold zones? I live and zone 6b so even though I love you, I actually enjoy Chris’s videos..
We went from one tree in our 7,800sf backyard to 14 trees in a year. 😂😂 Now we are in the process of building a guild for each tree.
WHERE IS THE HAT, JACQUES?!
(The animation at the start small consolation)
I have many grape vines, you’re going to have to stay on top of pruning and training those to keep them from growing into the avocado tree all wild and crazy. Table grapes are supposed to be pruned differently than wine grapes. 🤔 At least you have a garden crew to do the work 😅 They grow crazy fast when its summer.
Try and try again! Great moral. Great message. Love you!
I didn’t catch why you planted the avocados so close together? Please explain.
I believe for better pollination.
@@user-re8rl5mg7c my Carmen Haas is massive after 5 years and I’ve seen Fuertes grow as wide as houses. Room is what these trees need, imho.
@@virginiatibbetts1551 2-in-1 means they get pruned as one tree. Two varieties in the same space. It's pretty common, including for avos.
@Virginia Tibbetts I 100% agree with you. I lived in Florida until 7 years ago. Have had many avocado trees and have seen 100s if not thousand of them and have never seen that done. Those are huge trees that love their space and need it to grow strong. This is probably why they didn't make it the first time. While they are small they will be fine but in like 5 years one will take out the other. They will compete for nutrients and sun.
Im in nor cal and had some decent growth with 40 gallons a week of water. I use tree watering bags to irritate and have been amending and fertilizing, Got some decent blooms this year hopefully some fruit to come. Best of luck on this one!
The grass beind looking good. It's by the pond
I love the grape spacing. Maybe you can put trellis thatinterlinks among the grapes so you can create the grape vine perimeter wall.
I think you planted the bananas too close to each other that it will compete with the nutrients and water.
You planted the avocado trees too close that I think it will create a problem in the future. Avocados grow as big trees with large trunks, it should’ve been spaced out more like 5-10feet apart because it will really compete for space, water, sunlight and nutrients. Fruit trees need a lot of those.
But good luck with thos, and I hope all those trees grows prolific in the years to come.
Oh my! Jacques without his hermit hat?! I almost didn’t recognize him. It was almost a bit uncomfortable-like he was missing an article of clothing (a bit naked 😂😂😂).
This had me wondering what killed the original avocados? I have never grown outside but I’ve kept them alive for years inside and based upon that I wonder if they need more shade then people think. I know they require lots of water when fruiting but perhaps making sure the soil is well drained is key
Super clay soil got them
Don’t do it- move the grapes away from the wall! I have grapes- they will take up a lot more space than you think!
I laughed out loud when you described the smell of the anaerobic dirt. You two are hilarious
Avo’s should be mounded when planted not put in a hole, Literally sit the plant on the top of the flat soil and build up soil around them and mulch well. Putting them in any kind of hole even if shallow creates a “bucket” for water to sit in and then the potential for root rot. They are super fussy when it comes to drainage and the mound on flat ground allows for the water to flow away 👍🏻 I’ve never lost any planting this way (we are in Aus and have fairly wet summers)
I live in Perth where we have dry summers and I still can't keep them alive 😅 my ground is straight sand and hard to work with, compost just seems to disappear in the heat
I´m happy that you plant grapes. I love this fruit and my father planted about 10+ varities in our garden and here in Austria they do well. We in Loweraustria split this state in 4 "districts" and there is a district that translate into "winedistrict" because there is the biggest grape production in Austria
No mulch either? Especially in your climate, you should pack mulch!
I would straighten up that first banana plant or its going to be over your neighbors fence in no time...
Cor-steel supports for those grapes. 🍇 Best of luck on the 🥑
Oh you guys great showing as always....but Kia Kaha Kevin & Jacques. LOL You are gonna need to stay strong for those Avocados!
Sorry fellas but you definitely gonna need a bigger mound of dirt for the Avocados otherwise attempt no.4 will unfortunately be on the horizon... As Mark from Self Sufficient Me in Australia would tell ya's he also has clay soils and he has mounded his Avo's higher than yours. The tap root hitting the clay soil will be the problem. I think from one of his videos - obviously Kevin you could yak to 'im on the ol' videocall to find out more info - his one long mound was about 4 or 5 feet high that he planted the multiple trees in.
Good luck with the bananas and the grapes. The grapes will be a hit in a year or so! :)
Dudes, I need a sale, my cart is waiting😁
Avocados don’t tolerate too much heat. Provide some shade and they should be fine
shoutout to the editor, good job on the cute little things that are added
I really love how you guys start a lot of your videos with an awkward laugh. It gives me 90s daytime talkshow vibes. 😆❤
5:52 🤣😂🤣 that's a lil stinker 🤣😂🤣
Its quite interesting how plants grow easily depending on location. In PH, bananas grow like weeds. Atleast if your not planting commercially, it will just grow even on drought.
This is funny but informative. I have Niagra and Reliance 🍇 Grapes. Peaches 🍑 and figs . Fruit trees are money savers if you have a family. Waiting for it to PAY OFF.
Yooo I just planted two lychee trees. Stoked.
I have some grapes in pots still trying to figure out where to put them lol
great video. Thank you for sharing. Always learn a lot and the intros are spot on and fun.
For the grape trellis, I would just do simple cable. I wouldn't want anything to distract from the beautiful fence.
I think you guys will have the win on these avocados. Something about them just says hella good guac to me. 😂
Why didn't you use a tub planter for your avocado trees
use rain water on your avos. San Diego tap water is too salty for them.
We have an avocado tree, but it only gave us about 2 good harvests in the almost 20yrs it's been planted, but my dad refuses to cut it down 😅 the main trunk is actually rotted down now due to termites and some other pests... the offshoots are bearing fruit now but either the fruit bats get them or the wind knocks them down 🤣 and oh, the soil is covered in concrete so we cant fertilize it nor do we water it (we think some roots are in the rain sewers) 😂
I brought a banana pup home and planted it... then I thought it looked diseased, so I pulled it out and threw it in my green waste bin.... did some research post hast and it seemed like it might have been ok, so two weeks later I pulled it back out of the bin ( this was at the end of australian summer) it was sweaty but well hydrated, I cut it back quite low, re planted it and it is throwing out a beautiful looking shoot from the main stem, having only watered it a couple of times ! Lol, 🍌 tough love 🍌
Amazing content! Thank you ☺️
Avocados keep your coat shiny 🌳
Who painted the chicken mural?? It looks great!
Definitely think the banana placement was the best idea!
Man this made me feel terrible, I've planted grapes 3 times in my life and none of them have ever survived
Sorry I’m late lol was stuck at work. Idiot boss (wife) had me work some OT.
Why is Jacques digging with a child's shovel? 5:04 LOL
A great tip a banana ninja gave me ... add ash Cavendish love good and water
Personally, I'd have removed and planted a few of the banana pups essentially for failure insurance. I'm rooting for you though.