She actually has one of the most loyal fanbase, despite her lower number of subs she actually has a better ratio of Superchaters per sub, means most of the Elfriends actually Superchats her and buys memberships.
@@kennichigatchalian6710 Despite her relatively low sub numbers, she's currently the 10th most superchatted person in the world, so I'll definitely take your word for that xD
FYI: Even that Chinese antis manage to make Coco graduate, they have said that they won't stop and they will change target until all Hololive eliminated. I saw their next target list if they manage to make Coco fired or resign: 1.FBK 2.Kanata 3.Suisei 4.Korone That means they will attack FBK next when Coco out. Coco indirectly protect FBK from those bugmen. For Kanata and Suisei I think they choose them cuz they live together with Coco. Idk why Korone is really high on their target list.
This sudden collab, last among us collab with coco, ark collab with blondie girls and all the meme review guests We know that the girls is behind coco's back
@@yamiRic coco is huge asset business wise, so its no brainer to let coco go, but seeing all the girls support is really show their bond, iirc on coco came back stream after the hiatus she also doing totsumachi (waiting call(?)) Which so many girl came sadly i cant find any clip of it
It's very heartwarming how the girls actually enjoy Coco and actively go after her. It's not like a quota she has to meet. Polka literally BEGGED to be on meme review
To put midly: Fubuki was about to quit if Coco was saked because of the antis. Fubuki probably is one of the MVPs (along with Yagoo's desitions, the other girls, and specially the fans) since she goes full tits on not only defend Coco, but said her that, beliving Cover won't be stupid to let her go, and then terminate her BilliBilli channel , who was one of the most popular along with Pekora. NOT ONLY Antis didn't care about CN ,but also they literally lose their favorites only because of this. Of course, what people doesn't know is Fubuki doesn't get any anti spam because that would means to divert resources into harrassing her, and if they do, they will had to face not only Fubuki and Cover but also the fubuki's fans who are half JP half overseas (like Towa). Of course they went to the other route instead and just did the shut down of collabs like the ASUS one back in December. BUT that proves to be dumb as they are killing their own industry to just own someone. On top of her also been black listed along Coco for the reasons i mentioned before. Of course , i still think, this are just a few people with access to bots to keep this going. So if we can find a way to get an extra protection for drop their bots down, then i think they will finally desist.
Poor Coco, she must feel terrible thinking the antis went over to attack Flare for helping her...I'm so proud of Flare for taking it in stride, she's a true, respectable senpai.
@@junimeme5626 Coco really deserves better, she's such a sweet and loving girl who's done nothing to deserve any hate. Really makes one wish they could spend some one on one time with all those pathetic anti's who's just getting off on trying to hurt someone..
We don't deserve Flare. To think she used to be the Gen 3 member whom I wasn't really feeling at the beginning, but she grew on me lots and lots. I'm also so sad and frustrated this stupid harassment thing is still ongoing. Coco doesn't deserve any of this crap and now they're basically making her having some sort of stigma that inconveniences collabs as well. So glad to see that she still carries on and has wonderful colleagues to support her. These girls really are made of some sterner stuff than most people.
What's make it more stupid is that the reason why the Antis is attacking Coco is just her showing her views analytic on youtube and somehow Taiwan was there and Coco just said something like Taiwan also there or something like that and the Antis is already attacking her for that reason and it's been going for almost half of year right now
@@yushagotnochill8842 those Antis are not suppose to use TH-cam anyway and why are they here ? If they are something like me a overseas student who come to other country to learn and have access to youtube they should have known better that multi culture is a must and and i dont see why they try to hard to harrass someone they barely know.
What's even more pathetic and stupid is that people are still not over it despite that the issue happened half a year ago. Such a loud reaction over a simple matter.
Before this stream I honestly forgot about the anti hate thing was still going on with Coco for a few months now. Mainly because Coco handles it well and how pathetic they actually are, my brain doesn't register them as threats. And now with this, we know the other members got Coco's back so we have nothing to worry about them.
It all makes the haters look super pathetic if for the sake of feeling good about their country they need to harass a young girl streamer that really did nothing wrong in the first place. Makes you wonder how weak and insecure china government must be that they need to worry about such things to spur nationalist propaganda and support hate mongers... What a waste of life to do such things. Hope every holo fan continues to support Coco and everyone else, and who knows maybe one day they sad weirdos will just give up and get on with their lives.
We need to see Coco collab with EN members. Its kinda weird she haven't collabing to any of them. Iirc those antis are afraid to spam EN or ID members. Notice how Moona didn't got spammed when Coco appear on her birthday. But they spammed Miko when she appeared.
@Mr. M That means they only focused on JP members. When Ollie sudden collab with Coco on MC they also didn't appear. Eventhough Coco also stream at that time. That means they know it and saw Ollie chatting with her in MC but they abort the plan to spam her.
I actually saw this first from Flare's POV (& saw the spam happening), but could tell from Coco's voice that she seem apologetic. Now seeing this from Coco's POV..well..you could tell she seem guilty about it even though it's not her fault. Personally, hoping the other members especially HoloID could follow Flare's example or something similar.
@@alistairwilliams9074 if you see the streams of the ID brand and the EN brand, you'll know that they don't take things like this lightly, they would go as far a banning those people themselves, se Reine for example (I think), banned a spammer in her chat some weeks ago herself and scolded people that do this kind of thing
@Mr. M ..& I hope it continues (Coco's interaction with the HoloID girls). From the little clips I see, I think Moona respects Kaichou a lot from the way she talks. While Ollie is.. Ollie 😅 Any Hololive members are potential wives 👍
My god.. Coco says "Thank you" And "im sorry" With that tone of voice completely breaks my heart And that happines in Coco after Flare says "i want to play with Coco" Was such a heartwarming stuff
From that day when she cried just because she got her birthday gift from the doggo in her bad day, to now when she spreads her kindness to Coco in her bad day. I'm gonna cry 😭
just a small TL note for you all! coco is using the keigo verbs when she asks flare initially where the location of the mesa is and as far as i can tell from the clip uses more formal language for this collab. coco being really polite to her senpais, probably because she doesn't want to bother them with the spam, is both heart warming and sad ;;
I loved Flare's reaction. No hesitation to play with her friend. Same thing happened a while back when Towa made a herbarium gift for Coco. Towa handled it very similarly to Flare. Told chat immediately, "If you see something ignore it." Antis went to Hololive and said "Coco or us." And Hololive went "K Bye" You love to see how strong the bonds of Hololive are.
Well, their Chinese revenue is so small that even they leave bilibili, there's no significant difference in their total revenue. The only thing that I think is regrettable is that there are more sponsorship opportunity in Chinese market.
Not only is there those bonds and all the things coco does, but asking cover to choose between one of the highest-on-youtube superchat earners and a bit of excessively overblown pride is hilarious in how doomed a question it is.
@@crimson9714 YAGOO seems to be making aggressive deals. The train company deal, the curry commercial, ema, Pekora's wine, Noel's beef bowl, HoloMyth's ad deal with Princess Connect... I think Hololive will be able to counter the loss of the Chinese market.
@@AklyonX There is also the fact that giving in to China so early in Hololive EN's launch would have created such a gigantic shitstorm that it would have sunk HoloMyth and likely seen a lot of overseas viewers bailing
@@crimson9714 That's not how a it works lmao having a bilibili streaming and working together with chinese could expand their ads like game collaboration and even solo concert on bilibili website alone. it's not like they leave them because "oh it's just small revenue so just leave them" they sacrifice lot of things for better. did you commented this because bili gives them a small SC? SC not even that much to begin with even with 50k yen. it's better if they sells merch and chinese community had a big market in that aspect.
It's not financially possible for me to be a member to everyone, but I definitely understand there are times when Member-only chat is needed. The actual fans won't mind, so I'm glad to see that things turned out well for Coco and Flare.
I'm really glad to see this solidarity. I understand staying out of the line of fire when the incident was fresh, but I think this kind of thing gives an idea of how uncomfortable not being able to play with Coco might have been for some of the girls that hadn't collabed with her since Aug/Sept last year, and works against any kind of narrative that may have been spun up.
@@amputaka The fewer details that continue to be spoken, the better- googling "Kiryu Coco suspension" will get the info. That said, the suspension was more to protect her than to punish her.
amputaka TLDR she read her youtube analytics. Taiwan is there. CN got mad she said the T-word. Lots more details on reddit, just google it. she even got on tv and newspapers and everything
@@amputaka Basically, after a series of incidents over implying taiwan is a country+CN fandom starting to feel slighted because of all attention given to the new EN fanbase, Haachama called Taiwan a country, and then the day after Coco showed a list of countries with Taiwan on it(implying taiwan is a country again) Things festered really quick as Cover tried to figure out what to do and everything spiraled out of control, resulting in the CN fandom going fucking ballistic and decided to make Coco their scapegoat for their hatred and harass her in any and every way possible(tbh from what i've heard they've always been biased against her because she comes from America:/). The end result of all the bullshit is that some schizos who can't handle their politics being challenged accidentally have gone on an insane vendetta against Coco and uses bots and flaws with youtube to spam Coco and anyone she comes in contact with during streams.
If I'm to be honest, i think that Flare stands as such a strong interview, she didn't hesitate to grab coco for a little fun, and knew what she had to do to chat, but her friend's feelings mattered to her and she stood strong not knowing how the fans would react to her actions, though they all seemed to be supportive of her caring side and wanting to have fun with her friend.
really chad move of Flare for doing that. If you check her stream you can see that she received a lot of new member because of that. Must be really frustrating for Coco that the spammer issue still goes on.
@@Taoutes "She american so she should know better" this is just of the many quotes that somebody translated from the site that the west taiwan people go to. Now i don't know if this is the only reason but it seems to me that they hate coco more because she's part american
@@Taoutes Now i think its more of them thinking that coco knows what she is doing but still choose to do it so they might view it as supporting taiwan as independent while for Haachama it can be viewed as an accident
@@godkeep3673 Coco showed her TH-cam analytics because they related to the Canada-USA superchat war in Calli's stream that she was covering on Asacoco Live. Her manager privated the video while she was doing a karaoke stream and Coco started asking why it was taken down on stream. The idea that she did it "to support Taiwan independence" is unfounded. Especially since she had no motive to do so. Besides which, the notion that an American should know more about East-Asian geopolitics than East-Asians is idiotic.
@@gunnermike4553 It goes to show how this spills into international relations, the PR speak whenever their official government discloses information over a certain thing, and the intentional omission of information they do not want the world to know about (losing face, or _kiasu_, is something very important to them and, personally, stupendously moronic to deal with, and is on the same level as that Arab throwing a shoe at George W. Bush back in the 2nd Iraqi War in terms of rage). Cover, TH-cam and the rest of the world need to move towards restrictions of unmitigated spam and trolls in chats. Call me anti-libertarian and "commie," given that I come from a region that is a potential hotspot for future theatre of operations (Southeast Asia), words have no meanings unless the meaning *I* assigned to them.
another flare kindness i remember one time coco get lost deep in nether and asking at minecraft chat the coordinate of nether portal to get back to the overworld, many holo member online that time but flare is the one who quickly respond and take the action checking nether coordinate and give it to her. that was sweet imo
@@moneybuas4942 th-cam.com/video/u-_SdNnSsBQ/w-d-xo.html that time flare (off stream) was playing with aqua (streaming) sadly i cant find the archieve of aqua pov, because it show how cool flare that time :(
I love Coco and Flare, not only I think they mix well together but you can see that Flare has Coco's back, which makes me so happy to see... it's a shame that the antis are still active even though now it's just a few of them but to see Flare stepping up like that... wow, so great.
That was really sweet but also made me sad. It's not fair to Coco. Flare's attitude was really cool though, and I'm glad to see that the members in her chat were understanding and supportive.
I love how the Antis would spend money just to attack someone lmao. Flare has earned everyone else's respect for her chadness and a respectable amount of "hate money" kekw
IT is yeah, but rest assured in your heart that you will always know they are worthless if thats what they spend their energy and time on, harassing people, they will always BE worthless. Wish it didnt happen but it does and those people's lives are meaningless.
I wonder if we can trace their IP's and dox them to their government. Would be pretty funny if their social points and lives are ruined because they couldn't let go of a very minor thing that wasn't even the fault of an anime girl on TH-cam.
Coco: See, the world with no one hurting is created. Very easy... Flare: Shut up and take my hand. PPT: Shut up and wear the rings. Other Member: SHUT UP AND GO WITH US!!!!
A bravo to the Elfriends here, and any other listeners who support their oshis playing with Kaichou even if it means they can't participate in the chat. I'm sure the girls would still support her even if the fans got uppity about it, but it's got make them feel better knowing the fans are on the same page in terms of standing up for each other.
The way Coco lowers her head and voice saying thank you to Flare switching on members only breaks my heart a little. Good on Flare to give the old F you to the antis and collab with her friend. Coco deserves all the love.
CONTEXT FOR NEWCOMERS: Haato read her YT analytics on stream, Taiwan is there(China is not listed cuz YT is banned there, CN audience uses VPNs to watch Hololive on YT and watch through Taiwan), CN a bit mad(cuz they don’t recognize Taiwan as a country), hours later Coco read her YT analytics on stream, Taiwan is there, CN Big Mad(cuz they think she’s intentionally provoking them, also she’s American), Coco confused why her Asacoco ep got privated during an unarchived karaoke stream on the same day, fans misunderstand and thought Coco intentionally said the T-word to protect Haato(she didn’t), CN spams start on all Holo streams, mass unsubs in Bilibili, CN making them choose: Graduate Coco or leave China, claims they will stop if Coco graduates(that’s a lie), Cover releases apology and ‘punishes’ haato and coco by suspending them for 3 weeks(but it’s really to protect them, fans misunderstand and got angry at Cover, sends emails at them and crashes the site, English audience will leave if Coco leaves, they say), CN audience points out Cover didn’t include a proclamation of supporting their One China policy thing on their twitter apology which they did on Bilibili and got mad again(some say this is due to them having separate CN representatives for Bilibili and they were the ones who manipulated the apology letter[cuz you can’t operate a business in CN without approved CCP representatives looking at your every move]), Holo CN gets harassed too, many defend them, leaks of most of them(particularly Artia) showing support for CN antis and encouraging Coco hate spams in their private irl accounts appears, Holo CN members UNOFFICIALLY claims Cover will release them from Hololive with their models and uncut SC money of that month, Cover never says anything about this and announces their graduation dates, Artia had a meltdown on twt lol, Holo CN graduates, Coco and Haato comes back, Coco makes it clear she loves everyone and it was all a misunderstanding, spams are still on Coco’s chat despite claiming they will stop if Hololive leaves CN which they did, Holo girls welcomes and collabs with Coco, spams and dislike bombs are going down lately. I don’t care if nobody reads this, I just wanna let it out cuz I keep seeing newcomers asking for context. bye
Sorarocks 93 There are YT vids that talked about the evidences(even a translated vid of Artia boasting about being part of harassing some celebrity years ago for china). Artia even reportedly mocked the English speaking community who defended them. Most of them were from Artia but there were some from the others too(probably cuz she’s the most popular one). iirc Yogiri, the red haired girl, was the only one they didn’t get any dirt on, maybe because she lives in Taiwan
Clairian S It happened in the middle of them spreading vague rumors about Cover’s promises to them and their graduation announcements. She acted very weird on a stream, ended it abruptly, made some vague twitter posts, said she’s gonna go to Mars and changed her profile pic to a Clown. I think this was the time when they realized their plans weren’t working. you can find more here: www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/jjnzb9/artia_just_updated_her_profile_on_twitter/?
Shiranui Flare "My friends are also to me. Either of them are important." Best words coming from the best elf-friend. And also 3:46 "Cute Dragon Squeal"
I will admit that I never really paid much attention to Flare other then when she plays GTA with Miko, but man this was awesome and went right to sub to her. Also took the time to watch some of her stuff and I'm hitting my head on the wall for not watching her before. Awesome elf is awesome.
I wish flare's action could at least minimize the anti's hate. like seriously, don't they realize their effort are futile. they try to make coco get lot of hate from other but instead coco gain more love and affection. And also, that small pause from coco after flare said her chat turn chaotic followed with small "thank you" really crunch my heart
These Antis think that we are going to abandon Coco just like that lol! Coco and Haachama are part of the talents that pulled so many people into Hololive, inspired so so so many talents to join Hololive. Coco's "sorry" just breaks my heart, she knows that people might be angry and the talents (in this case Flare) by having member's only stream, but I only have two memberships and literally don't mind this kind of response to the anties, just don't isolate Coco!
Fans would rather want a merber only and civilized stream, than a spam fest antis stream, fans don't mind this kind of thing and actually agree with them doing this kind of thing, the loyalty of the fan base just grows stronger every stream
Could catch just the beginning of Cocos stream, just as she was asking Flare for information. After that i learned what happened. Can only say *Stay strong Coco* it will be over, sometime in the future. Glad to see that other Holo Girls have her back.
Flare is such a boss. Legit her presence in Minecraft and collaborations have grown immensely. Due all the translations I’ve been able to appreciate her so much more and legit understand why the harem is not just a meme. She really is amazingly wholesome and hilarious.
Happy to see the strong bond the girls have. I know they have each other's backs but still seeing it really does bring it home. You can't help but love the talent.
I dropped in on this stream just for a bit and I was so happy to see them playing together. Thanks for clipping what I missed. I love these two so much and you know all the Holo girls love coco too. Hope they play together more!
You know I never got attracted to watch anything from flare, but after seeing this kindness I cannot at least give her a chance, I am amazed, because if I was on her position I would prefer to help coco without getting in trouble for that, she is truly a good friend/senpai
This is wholesome, I love Flare and Coco... I hope this harrasment will be gone sooner than later. For real, how long was it already? Sigh... I'm sure all the girls have Coco back, but how much can Coco endure this, that everytime she has collab, the other girl got some consequence? I just hope that Coco won't ever get discouraged by this.
Flare handled this like a BOSS. So nice to see these girls having each other's backs and helping. Not I just heard a bit of the story why there are Coco haters and I'm really glad the girls don't bow their heads to them. 💕😊💪🏻
When you try to cause trouble but end up being a contributing factor to a very wholesome stream. "One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it"
I can easily see Flare being the one to put someone in a choke hold if someone insulted her friends to her face. Flare is a badass and just all around amazing. You dont FAQ with Hololive girls and their friendship/familyship You will be destroyed. Count on that.
Stop trying to attack Coco! All your efforts are doing are creating an even loyal fanbase, giving monetary support ot the girls and best of all, creating even tighter bonds between the Hololive members. Despite the harassment, Coco has made it past 1 million subs. Despite the harassment, most of Cocos fanbase are members. Despite the harassment, she's starting to collab even more with her fellow vtubers. This won't stop. This won't end. You can not break us from Hololive and have only painted a worser image of China than already exists. Please stop. Think of your nation's reputation and try to build it up!
You can report the anti to local police in China if you know their information. China is thirsty for organs that they are hunting people who using VPN now.
i dont think you can reason with them that blindly hating. most of them probably avoid english clipper and just lurking in their hateful forum and acting like they protect their country when its actually just prove us right about them.
@Caio Coelho besides if them hating on a vtuber is what makes them seem like a shit people you must be ignorant of the blatant human rights violations comitted by the chinese goverement
This just shows us all. That no matter what. Holo member have a very strong bond with each other. I'm always sad when everytime i watch Coco stream and I can't comment. I'm one of the broke gang. But i understand. I will always gonna support her and the rest of the Holo members. They've light up my heart and honestly, I've never cried so much before i started going down this rabbit hole. Truly is a wholesome place indeed this rabbit hole.
"My friends are also important to me and I want to play with them"
Give this Chad Elf some love she deserved ever single drop of it!
She actually has one of the most loyal fanbase, despite her lower number of subs she actually has a better ratio of Superchaters per sub, means most of the Elfriends actually Superchats her and buys memberships.
@@kennichigatchalian6710 Despite her relatively low sub numbers, she's currently the 10th most superchatted person in the world, so I'll definitely take your word for that xD
@Aomine Daiki but we all know who is the only person that she loves the most, that is to her lefto sido, righto sido
I'm really fcking glad the holo girls have cocos back, and also what a fckng chad move from flare
Reminds me of when Coco was suspended, so Fubuki and some of the other girls went to go hang out with her off stream.
Them Antis just wanted to see more teetee moment like this so they be the villians or maybe they're just trash.
@@phuyaibankaengkro they're just trash, really.
FYI: Even that Chinese antis manage to make Coco graduate, they have said that they won't stop and they will change target until all Hololive eliminated. I saw their next target list if they manage to make Coco fired or resign:
1.FBK
2.Kanata
3.Suisei
4.Korone
That means they will attack FBK next when Coco out. Coco indirectly protect FBK from those bugmen.
For Kanata and Suisei I think they choose them cuz they live together with Coco. Idk why Korone is really high on their target list.
@@justinrald3318 Umm how do you get your hand on these information? I wonder why they wanted to eliminate Hololive
I know that most people are good, but it's so heart warming seeing kindness between people. Have a good heart everyone ❤️
God bless you all 🙏
Have a great time!
This sudden collab, last among us collab with coco, ark collab with blondie girls and all the meme review guests
We know that the girls is behind coco's back
And Cover corp too
@@yamiRic coco is huge asset business wise, so its no brainer to let coco go, but seeing all the girls support is really show their bond, iirc on coco came back stream after the hiatus she also doing totsumachi (waiting call(?)) Which so many girl came sadly i cant find any clip of it
Other mem is supporting coco in the back, but ever since kanatan busting door incident now everyone not afraid showing support for her.
It's very heartwarming how the girls actually enjoy Coco and actively go after her. It's not like a quota she has to meet. Polka literally BEGGED to be on meme review
To put midly: Fubuki was about to quit if Coco was saked because of the antis. Fubuki probably is one of the MVPs (along with Yagoo's desitions, the other girls, and specially the fans) since she goes full tits on not only defend Coco, but said her that, beliving Cover won't be stupid to let her go, and then terminate her BilliBilli channel , who was one of the most popular along with Pekora. NOT ONLY Antis didn't care about CN ,but also they literally lose their favorites only because of this.
Of course, what people doesn't know is Fubuki doesn't get any anti spam because that would means to divert resources into harrassing her, and if they do, they will had to face not only Fubuki and Cover but also the fubuki's fans who are half JP half overseas (like Towa). Of course they went to the other route instead and just did the shut down of collabs like the ASUS one back in December. BUT that proves to be dumb as they are killing their own industry to just own someone. On top of her also been black listed along Coco for the reasons i mentioned before.
Of course , i still think, this are just a few people with access to bots to keep this going. So if we can find a way to get an extra protection for drop their bots down, then i think they will finally desist.
Poor Coco, she must feel terrible thinking the antis went over to attack Flare for helping her...I'm so proud of Flare for taking it in stride, she's a true, respectable senpai.
The way her face drops and her voice lowers when Flare mentions it. You can tell she feels bad.
@@KyokujiFGC breaks my heart honestly...
@@junimeme5626 Coco really deserves better, she's such a sweet and loving girl who's done nothing to deserve any hate. Really makes one wish they could spend some one on one time with all those pathetic anti's who's just getting off on trying to hurt someone..
We don't deserve Flare. To think she used to be the Gen 3 member whom I wasn't really feeling at the beginning, but she grew on me lots and lots.
I'm also so sad and frustrated this stupid harassment thing is still ongoing. Coco doesn't deserve any of this crap and now they're basically making her having some sort of stigma that inconveniences collabs as well. So glad to see that she still carries on and has wonderful colleagues to support her.
These girls really are made of some sterner stuff than most people.
What's make it more stupid is that the reason why the Antis is attacking Coco is just her showing her views analytic on youtube and somehow Taiwan was there and Coco just said something like Taiwan also there or something like that and the Antis is already attacking her for that reason and it's been going for almost half of year right now
@@yushagotnochill8842 those Antis are not suppose to use TH-cam anyway and why are they here ?
If they are something like me a overseas student who come to other country to learn and have access to youtube they should have known better that multi culture is a must and and i dont see why they try to hard to harrass someone they barely know.
@@dodogamus1926 The irony is that most of those views were probably west Taiwan using a vpn to watch youtube.
What's even more pathetic and stupid is that people are still not over it despite that the issue happened half a year ago. Such a loud reaction over a simple matter.
@@eddardblackhart6305 Ikr that just pathetic, they probrably just want to ruin other ppl lives because their is already ruined.
She's not called a harem protag just for show, look at the chad energy overflowing from her.
Before this stream I honestly forgot about the anti hate thing was still going on with Coco for a few months now. Mainly because Coco handles it well and how pathetic they actually are, my brain doesn't register them as threats. And now with this, we know the other members got Coco's back so we have nothing to worry about them.
Amin my friends. I hope everything going in favor of coco. I hope all the best for all holo members
99% wholesomeness 1% minor inconveniences
It all makes the haters look super pathetic if for the sake of feeling good about their country they need to harass a young girl streamer that really did nothing wrong in the first place.
Makes you wonder how weak and insecure china government must be that they need to worry about such things to spur nationalist propaganda and support hate mongers...
What a waste of life to do such things.
Hope every holo fan continues to support Coco and everyone else, and who knows maybe one day they sad weirdos will just give up and get on with their lives.
We need to see Coco collab with EN members. Its kinda weird she haven't collabing to any of them. Iirc those antis are afraid to spam EN or ID members. Notice how Moona didn't got spammed when Coco appear on her birthday. But they spammed Miko when she appeared.
@Mr. M That means they only focused on JP members. When Ollie sudden collab with Coco on MC they also didn't appear. Eventhough Coco also stream at that time. That means they know it and saw Ollie chatting with her in MC but they abort the plan to spam her.
Coco thanking Flare in that small voice really breaks my heart...
Somewhere a certain K-night is dripping waterfalls from the immense chadness energy radiating from Flare.
The "Sumimasen..." and sad blinking from Coco absolutely broke my heart, PROTECC these 2 at all cost!
Hololive girls: we got you fam
I actually saw this first from Flare's POV (& saw the spam happening), but could tell from Coco's voice that she seem apologetic.
Now seeing this from Coco's POV..well..you could tell she seem guilty about it even though it's not her fault.
Personally, hoping the other members especially HoloID could follow Flare's example or something similar.
@@alistairwilliams9074 if you see the streams of the ID brand and the EN brand, you'll know that they don't take things like this lightly, they would go as far a banning those people themselves, se Reine for example (I think), banned a spammer in her chat some weeks ago herself and scolded people that do this kind of thing
@Dunno and kiara sends to the usual room, not that usual room, the OTHER usual room, you guys know which one I'm talking about
@Mr. M ..& I hope it continues (Coco's interaction with the HoloID girls). From the little clips I see, I think Moona respects Kaichou a lot from the way she talks. While Ollie is.. Ollie 😅 Any Hololive members are potential wives 👍
My god..
Coco says "Thank you" And "im sorry" With that tone of voice completely breaks my heart
And that happines in Coco after Flare says "i want to play with Coco" Was such a heartwarming stuff
From that day when she cried just because she got her birthday gift from the doggo in her bad day, to now when she spreads her kindness to Coco in her bad day. I'm gonna cry 😭
just a small TL note for you all! coco is using the keigo verbs when she asks flare initially where the location of the mesa is and as far as i can tell from the clip uses more formal language for this collab. coco being really polite to her senpais, probably because she doesn't want to bother them with the spam, is both heart warming and sad ;;
3:16 Coco's reaction touched my ❤
I loved Flare's reaction. No hesitation to play with her friend. Same thing happened a while back when Towa made a herbarium gift for Coco. Towa handled it very similarly to Flare. Told chat immediately, "If you see something ignore it." Antis went to Hololive and said "Coco or us." And Hololive went "K Bye" You love to see how strong the bonds of Hololive are.
Well, their Chinese revenue is so small that even they leave bilibili, there's no significant difference in their total revenue. The only thing that I think is regrettable is that there are more sponsorship opportunity in Chinese market.
Not only is there those bonds and all the things coco does, but asking cover to choose between one of the highest-on-youtube superchat earners and a bit of excessively overblown pride is hilarious in how doomed a question it is.
@@crimson9714 YAGOO seems to be making aggressive deals. The train company deal, the curry commercial, ema, Pekora's wine, Noel's beef bowl, HoloMyth's ad deal with Princess Connect... I think Hololive will be able to counter the loss of the Chinese market.
@@AklyonX There is also the fact that giving in to China so early in Hololive EN's launch would have created such a gigantic shitstorm that it would have sunk HoloMyth and likely seen a lot of overseas viewers bailing
@@crimson9714 That's not how a it works lmao
having a bilibili streaming and working together with chinese could expand their ads like game collaboration and even solo concert on bilibili website alone.
it's not like they leave them because "oh it's just small revenue so just leave them"
they sacrifice lot of things for better.
did you commented this because bili gives them a small SC? SC not even that much to begin with even with 50k yen. it's better if they sells merch and chinese community had a big market in that aspect.
You could really hear the guilt in coco's voice when flare said that she'll be making chat members only EVEN though its not her fault...
We need to make her realized that it is never her fault
It's not financially possible for me to be a member to everyone, but I definitely understand there are times when Member-only chat is needed. The actual fans won't mind, so I'm glad to see that things turned out well for Coco and Flare.
Hololive. Together. Strong. Flare continues to blossom in one of the most beautiful way.
Noel is truly very lucky
I'm really glad to see this solidarity. I understand staying out of the line of fire when the incident was fresh, but I think this kind of thing gives an idea of how uncomfortable not being able to play with Coco might have been for some of the girls that hadn't collabed with her since Aug/Sept last year, and works against any kind of narrative that may have been spun up.
what incident??
@@amputaka The fewer details that continue to be spoken, the better- googling "Kiryu Coco suspension" will get the info. That said, the suspension was more to protect her than to punish her.
@@amputaka West taiwan got angry at coco
amputaka TLDR she read her youtube analytics. Taiwan is there. CN got mad she said the T-word. Lots more details on reddit, just google it. she even got on tv and newspapers and everything
@@amputaka Basically, after a series of incidents over implying taiwan is a country+CN fandom starting to feel slighted because of all attention given to the new EN fanbase, Haachama called Taiwan a country, and then the day after Coco showed a list of countries with Taiwan on it(implying taiwan is a country again) Things festered really quick as Cover tried to figure out what to do and everything spiraled out of control, resulting in the CN fandom going fucking ballistic and decided to make Coco their scapegoat for their hatred and harass her in any and every way possible(tbh from what i've heard they've always been biased against her because she comes from America:/). The end result of all the bullshit is that some schizos who can't handle their politics being challenged accidentally have gone on an insane vendetta against Coco and uses bots and flaws with youtube to spam Coco and anyone she comes in contact with during streams.
If I'm to be honest, i think that Flare stands as such a strong interview, she didn't hesitate to grab coco for a little fun, and knew what she had to do to chat, but her friend's feelings mattered to her and she stood strong not knowing how the fans would react to her actions, though they all seemed to be supportive of her caring side and wanting to have fun with her friend.
Simping for a cool girl like Flare, that’s respectable
This is a very Big Sister moment and I love Flare for it
really chad move of Flare for doing that.
If you check her stream you can see that she received a lot of new member because of that.
Must be really frustrating for Coco that the spammer issue still goes on.
@@Taoutes So sad that they spend their lives like that but theyre so disgusting that they go so far to bully Coco
@@Taoutes "She american so she should know better" this is just of the many quotes that somebody translated from the site that the west taiwan people go to. Now i don't know if this is the only reason but it seems to me that they hate coco more because she's part american
@@Taoutes Now i think its more of them thinking that coco knows what she is doing but still choose to do it so they might view it as supporting taiwan as independent while for Haachama it can be viewed as an accident
@@godkeep3673 Coco showed her TH-cam analytics because they related to the Canada-USA superchat war in Calli's stream that she was covering on Asacoco Live. Her manager privated the video while she was doing a karaoke stream and Coco started asking why it was taken down on stream.
The idea that she did it "to support Taiwan independence" is unfounded. Especially since she had no motive to do so.
Besides which, the notion that an American should know more about East-Asian geopolitics than East-Asians is idiotic.
@@gunnermike4553 It goes to show how this spills into international relations, the PR speak whenever their official government discloses information over a certain thing, and the intentional omission of information they do not want the world to know about (losing face, or _kiasu_, is something very important to them and, personally, stupendously moronic to deal with, and is on the same level as that Arab throwing a shoe at George W. Bush back in the 2nd Iraqi War in terms of rage).
Cover, TH-cam and the rest of the world need to move towards restrictions of unmitigated spam and trolls in chats. Call me anti-libertarian and "commie," given that I come from a region that is a potential hotspot for future theatre of operations (Southeast Asia), words have no meanings unless the meaning *I* assigned to them.
another flare kindness i remember
one time coco get lost deep in nether and asking at minecraft chat the coordinate of nether portal to get back to the overworld, many holo member online that time but flare is the one who quickly respond and take the action checking nether coordinate and give it to her.
that was sweet imo
can you link this fellow brother
@@moneybuas4942 th-cam.com/video/u-_SdNnSsBQ/w-d-xo.html
that time flare (off stream) was playing with aqua (streaming) sadly i cant find the archieve of aqua pov, because it show how cool flare that time :(
@@6_package Thank you so much for taking the time to find it.
I love Coco and Flare, not only I think they mix well together but you can see that Flare has Coco's back, which makes me so happy to see... it's a shame that the antis are still active even though now it's just a few of them but to see Flare stepping up like that... wow, so great.
In the end, being able to chat is fun, but I'd just rather them enjoy their time together.
That was really sweet but also made me sad. It's not fair to Coco. Flare's attitude was really cool though, and I'm glad to see that the members in her chat were understanding and supportive.
I love how the Antis would spend money just to attack someone lmao. Flare has earned everyone else's respect for her chadness and a respectable amount of "hate money" kekw
Most of the new Members aren't Antis but rather Fans showing respect and support to Flare
Yes I know. But I'm referring to the action of the haters that really clashes with what they say and do
@@justamoogle5268 yeah it's also cool how the viewers supports flare's decision.
Flare such a good genuine girl this is one of million reasons why she's one of my favorite.
She knows what is right thing to do so faq you antis
Coco, for most of holomen, often seen and acted as the older sister. However, Flare is the older sister figure for Coco.
Flare thank you for 2 hours of helping COCO
3:19 OMG! That's just so heart-melting!
Now we just need a group mc collab with Flare, Polka, Choco, Coco, and Ollie. Yes, mommy Flare would go insane.
Coco often doing ark collab with polka, choco and aki so i see you idea can be happen
@@a_paandah if only Coco can drag Moona back to ARK, it will be more fun
When all the antis showed up, it's just sad that there's that many people with nothing to do
IT is yeah, but rest assured in your heart that you will always know they are worthless if thats what they spend their energy and time on, harassing people, they will always BE worthless. Wish it didnt happen but it does and those people's lives are meaningless.
It's not many people. It's a few people with hundreds of bot accounts. It may look like a lot but it's really not.
I wonder if we can trace their IP's and dox them to their government. Would be pretty funny if their social points and lives are ruined because they couldn't let go of a very minor thing that wasn't even the fault of an anime girl on TH-cam.
@@miragespl you say that, but those points would probably go up
@@AgiftfromyoMama Nope looking at her dislikes there's still hundreds of them
Coco's reaction broke my heart. Even behind her character you can see it. But I'm very happy about the outcome.
damn my tears
Coco: See, the world with no one hurting is created. Very easy...
Flare: Shut up and take my hand.
PPT: Shut up and wear the rings.
Other Member: SHUT UP AND GO WITH US!!!!
She's just too kind, and I love her.
A bravo to the Elfriends here, and any other listeners who support their oshis playing with Kaichou even if it means they can't participate in the chat. I'm sure the girls would still support her even if the fans got uppity about it, but it's got make them feel better knowing the fans are on the same page in terms of standing up for each other.
I am not going to lie. This made me cry with joy at Flare's kindness towards her friends.
Man, watching this after all of what happened, it Hurt, it really Hurt, but it s really nice to remember that she was loved until her last moment
The way Coco lowers her head and voice saying thank you to Flare switching on members only breaks my heart a little.
Good on Flare to give the old F you to the antis and collab with her friend. Coco deserves all the love.
you may be cool, but you never will be so cool like this elf. taking his dragon friend to a mesa biome and fighting of antis at the same time
CONTEXT FOR NEWCOMERS:
Haato read her YT analytics on stream, Taiwan is there(China is not listed cuz YT is banned there, CN audience uses VPNs to watch Hololive on YT and watch through Taiwan), CN a bit mad(cuz they don’t recognize Taiwan as a country), hours later Coco read her YT analytics on stream, Taiwan is there, CN Big Mad(cuz they think she’s intentionally provoking them, also she’s American), Coco confused why her Asacoco ep got privated during an unarchived karaoke stream on the same day, fans misunderstand and thought Coco intentionally said the T-word to protect Haato(she didn’t), CN spams start on all Holo streams, mass unsubs in Bilibili, CN making them choose: Graduate Coco or leave China, claims they will stop if Coco graduates(that’s a lie), Cover releases apology and ‘punishes’ haato and coco by suspending them for 3 weeks(but it’s really to protect them, fans misunderstand and got angry at Cover, sends emails at them and crashes the site, English audience will leave if Coco leaves, they say), CN audience points out Cover didn’t include a proclamation of supporting their One China policy thing on their twitter apology which they did on Bilibili and got mad again(some say this is due to them having separate CN representatives for Bilibili and they were the ones who manipulated the apology letter[cuz you can’t operate a business in CN without approved CCP representatives looking at your every move]), Holo CN gets harassed too, many defend them, leaks of most of them(particularly Artia) showing support for CN antis and encouraging Coco hate spams in their private irl accounts appears, Holo CN members UNOFFICIALLY claims Cover will release them from Hololive with their models and uncut SC money of that month, Cover never says anything about this and announces their graduation dates, Artia had a meltdown on twt lol, Holo CN graduates, Coco and Haato comes back, Coco makes it clear she loves everyone and it was all a misunderstanding, spams are still on Coco’s chat despite claiming they will stop if Hololive leaves CN which they did, Holo girls welcomes and collabs with Coco, spams and dislike bombs are going down lately.
I don’t care if nobody reads this, I just wanna let it out cuz I keep seeing newcomers asking for context. bye
Thanks, i'm not new but i didn't fully understand everything that had happened.
Someone tell China to grow the fuck up.
Wait so, even the Chinese members of Hololive were against Coco? Or only one of the members? Cause that's awful.
Why did Artia have a meltdown? Never heard that part of the story.
Sorarocks 93 There are YT vids that talked about the evidences(even a translated vid of Artia boasting about being part of harassing some celebrity years ago for china). Artia even reportedly mocked the English speaking community who defended them. Most of them were from Artia but there were some from the others too(probably cuz she’s the most popular one). iirc Yogiri, the red haired girl, was the only one they didn’t get any dirt on, maybe because she lives in Taiwan
Clairian S It happened in the middle of them spreading vague rumors about Cover’s promises to them and their graduation announcements. She acted very weird on a stream, ended it abruptly, made some vague twitter posts, said she’s gonna go to Mars and changed her profile pic to a Clown. I think this was the time when they realized their plans weren’t working. you can find more here: www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/jjnzb9/artia_just_updated_her_profile_on_twitter/?
Coco's expression made me cry a little
For those of you sorting by new, know well this isnt why Kaichou graduated
Chin up madafawkas, and keep on keeping on! FOR KIRIYU, NEVER FORGET HER 💪🐲
Yeah!
this is why I love flare the most
flare just said "hai" but man.....she is super duper adorable...what the hell is that creature....she's too cute
Man, fuck anti's. It hurts to see Coco's reaction to that. Big respect to Flare and her supporters.
Such a Heart warming moment.
Flare deserve the Harem. This is why all Girls love her.
Shiranui Flare "My friends are also to me. Either of them are important."
Best words coming from the best elf-friend.
And also 3:46 "Cute Dragon Squeal"
I will admit that I never really paid much attention to Flare other then when she plays GTA with Miko, but man this was awesome and went right to sub to her. Also took the time to watch some of her stuff and I'm hitting my head on the wall for not watching her before. Awesome elf is awesome.
Why does Hololive always warm my cold, dead heart T_T
I wish flare's action could at least minimize the anti's hate. like seriously, don't they realize their effort are futile. they try to make coco get lot of hate from other but instead coco gain more love and affection.
And also, that small pause from coco after flare said her chat turn chaotic followed with small "thank you" really crunch my heart
This collabs alone has earned Flare alot of new membership. I remember when she set to member only chat, new members goes bbbrrrrrrrrrrr.
Was happy to see "Welcome to Elfriends" messages filled out my screen even though I am not a member.
@@Indifferential- Same , also happy from how much support were given by this blunder alone.
I dont know, but it is maybe bad thing. Im not sure but maybe the new members are antis and they set flare as new target.
@@TomTom-hu2pv During the members-only mode, no spams were seen though.
Even if they do join and spam. They gonna quickly get bonk by mods and money they spent wasted. Which is not a bad news.
The teteness is off the charts in this one
My heart ❤ flare is such a good person and a friend too ❤
the way Coco started to look down when flare got spammed. Good thing flare handled it well
Fuutan spreading the teetee to everyone. Goddamn I just saw the part she switched to members only. What a chad!
So wholesome, Flare is a kind senpai indeed
These Antis think that we are going to abandon Coco just like that lol! Coco and Haachama are part of the talents that pulled so many people into Hololive, inspired so so so many talents to join Hololive. Coco's "sorry" just breaks my heart, she knows that people might be angry and the talents (in this case Flare) by having member's only stream, but I only have two memberships and literally don't mind this kind of response to the anties, just don't isolate Coco!
Fans would rather want a merber only and civilized stream, than a spam fest antis stream, fans don't mind this kind of thing and actually agree with them doing this kind of thing, the loyalty of the fan base just grows stronger every stream
basically they think we are stupid and mindless simping. you know typical people from East Asia, not all but they are there.
Could catch just the beginning of Cocos stream, just as she was asking Flare for information. After that i learned what happened. Can only say *Stay strong Coco* it will be over, sometime in the future. Glad to see that other Holo Girls have her back.
This sweetness and seisoness seriously made me tear up ❤
The way Kaichou says thank you
Best girl. Period.
No wonder she got that harem, she's cool AF.
I want to hug them both
This was so sweet
I have seen this so many times... Man just makes my eyes spill water while my heart feels like its covers with warm blanket
I never loved Flare this much before
Flare is such a boss. Legit her presence in Minecraft and collaborations have grown immensely. Due all the translations I’ve been able to appreciate her so much more and legit understand why the harem is not just a meme. She really is amazingly wholesome and hilarious.
Happy to see the strong bond the girls have. I know they have each other's backs but still seeing it really does bring it home. You can't help but love the talent.
Woah no wonder everyone can quickly fall in love with Flare❤️
I dropped in on this stream just for a bit and I was so happy to see them playing together. Thanks for clipping what I missed. I love these two so much and you know all the Holo girls love coco too. Hope they play together more!
You know I never got attracted to watch anything from flare, but after seeing this kindness I cannot at least give her a chance, I am amazed, because if I was on her position I would prefer to help coco without getting in trouble for that, she is truly a good friend/senpai
Damn i can feel kaichou's sadness through her avatar. I almost tear up too
This is wholesome, I love Flare and Coco... I hope this harrasment will be gone sooner than later. For real, how long was it already? Sigh...
I'm sure all the girls have Coco back, but how much can Coco endure this, that everytime she has collab, the other girl got some consequence? I just hope that Coco won't ever get discouraged by this.
i'm want to cry... flare so kind
Flare handled this like a BOSS.
So nice to see these girls having each other's backs and helping.
Not I just heard a bit of the story why there are Coco haters and I'm really glad the girls don't bow their heads to them. 💕😊💪🏻
I can see why she has a harem. This half elf is made of chad protagonist material.
flare....the underrated friend....crap she’s giving me the same vibes not to lood like mio-mama
When Coco first say "thank you", damn my kokoro can't take it, how can u do this😭
3:19 The most genuine "Thank you" I have ever heard.
I was surprised by this sudden collab hope more girls will collab with Coco in the future
When you try to cause trouble but end up being a contributing factor to a very wholesome stream.
"One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it"
Flare will always be the kindest of all holo mem imo. also COOL!
I can easily see Flare being the one to put someone in a choke hold if someone insulted her friends to her face. Flare is a badass and just all around amazing. You dont FAQ with Hololive girls and their friendship/familyship You will be destroyed. Count on that.
Wasn't Fubuki upset during the 1 month ban for the Taiwan incident done to Coco and Haato?
not just to her face
she will personally track the insulter and choke hold them where they stood
That's how loyal and loving Flare is to her friends
she's not only a CHAD but also very sweet
This is heartbreaking so beautifull
god im glad she has such good friends...
Stop trying to attack Coco! All your efforts are doing are creating an even loyal fanbase, giving monetary support ot the girls and best of all, creating even tighter bonds between the Hololive members. Despite the harassment, Coco has made it past 1 million subs. Despite the harassment, most of Cocos fanbase are members. Despite the harassment, she's starting to collab even more with her fellow vtubers. This won't stop. This won't end. You can not break us from Hololive and have only painted a worser image of China than already exists. Please stop. Think of your nation's reputation and try to build it up!
You can report the anti to local police in China if you know their information. China is thirsty for organs that they are hunting people who using VPN now.
i dont think you can reason with them that blindly hating. most of them probably avoid english clipper and just lurking in their hateful forum and acting like they protect their country when its actually just prove us right about them.
@Caio Coelho besides if them hating on a vtuber is what makes them seem like a shit people you must be ignorant of the blatant human rights violations comitted by the chinese goverement
Flare is now the resource server guide
This just shows us all. That no matter what. Holo member have a very strong bond with each other. I'm always sad when everytime i watch Coco stream and I can't comment. I'm one of the broke gang. But i understand. I will always gonna support her and the rest of the Holo members. They've light up my heart and honestly, I've never cried so much before i started going down this rabbit hole. Truly is a wholesome place indeed this rabbit hole.
2:09 lol coco is so cute
Really wholesome video all around
Thank you so much flare...
Flare with the BDE, something the antis clearly lack.
Flare is awesome to handle this all with a cool head. >
This was a special occasion and I am so happy I was watching it.