Slaad & Chaotic Outsiders in 5e Dungeons & Dungeons
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As always it seems that if you, as a DM, can answer "What does the creature want?" that tells you why it does what it does.
So, for example, a Slaad heard about this thing called family from a guy he ate and just wants to experience it for itself. As such it begins to take the shape of various creatures and people in the land to experience various families. Maybe one day it is a bearcub, the next week the leader of a pack of wolves, or a human infant. Then a little boy or girl, and then a mother or a father, maybe a young princess? The king? Staying in that form until it thinks it gets the idea and decides moves on to a new form, just exploring the concept of family.
But it leaves chaos and broken families in its wake, because it doesn't care who it hurts. Maybe it kills who it replaces, or it just drops them into Limbo and forgets about them.
Maybe it takes the wrong kind of lessons away from its experience, so that suitor to the princess must prove his worth in single combat against the king (the Slaad) in order to gain the right to become part of the king's family. But a noble is screwed against a green slaad, so the king just brutally murdered the prince of another kingdom right in front of everyone in his court.
Then the other kingdom justly declares war. But the Slaad is defending its adopted family, so now the war is on, because that's how family works right? The strong thing that spawned the weaker thing defends the weaker thing until it has grown strong? So clearly the princess must also go to war, so that she can become strong. Papa King will teach you strength...
Cool idea. It makes me want to rethink the origin I had in mind for a slaad based Wild Magic sorcerer I've been thinking about creating.
Daniel Mårtensson
That sounds pretty neat
This whole idea made by Daniel is just epic and so in depth, and I would not be surprised if he himself was a DM.
btw Karp, whats this Slaad Wild Magic idea you had? I've been trying to come up with one myself but my brain....it no work D:
The general idea would be that the sorcerers mother at some point becomes part of the sladdi reproductive cycle. Then nature takes it course and the child is infused with chaotic energies while in their mother's womb.
Where it goes from there, I am undecided on as there are loads of possibilities. For example, you could go for the Blade origin story and have the mother be infected by a blue slaad. Or another is the red slaad route, where the baby is saved from being devoured by their "sibling" and later on, the sorcerer seeks to find them for revenge or perhaps to connect with their only remaining family. As the slaad aren't evil and the sorcerers "sibling" could even feel bad for how it was brought into the world. Though on the other hand, the "sibling" could be sadistic towards the sorcerer by taking the guise of their dead mother to taunt them into a confrontation to end what was started long ago.
Alternatively, the sorcerer could come about by finding a slaad control gem. And over time it's energies infuse them with magic, perhaps even going one step further and have aspects of the slaad (who owned the gem) pass to them or even becoming a separate entity is the sorcerers mind. Causing the sorcerer to appear to be talking to his or herself like a crazy person and the eventual discovery of the control gem with the choice to destroy it (and with it the sorcerers growing power) or watch as the sorcerer descends further into madness similar to Gollum with the One Ring. Or as Daniel suggested, the sorcerer could simply be an offspring of a slaad looking to see how families work.
Really the possibilities are endless and that is just with a slaad based origin. Wild Magic sorcerers are fun!
Did that help? I could probably come up with more given time and in fact, the control gem idea just came to mind. So I may go that route now. As the idea of playing a magic using Gollum is quite entertaining to think about.
yoink
The whole flow chart of how slaad are made and the origin of the death slaad bring this idea up that I find incredibly interesting, that chaos isn't an absence of law, it's an overabundance. That too many rules either will eventually create contradictions or impossibilities, and that that's where chaos originates. Chaos is a wildfire: it clears away the excess so that what remains can thrive.
I've always used Warhammer Orks as a good starting point for the way Slaadi behave. Their concentrated force of "lol nah" towards the laws of reality, their desire for a good fight, and their general disdain for orderly actions. and thats why their telepathy is always in Cockney. "but they communicate through ideas" yes. cockney ones.
Darth Giggles that's a great idea! I love the way warhammer portrays Orks; they're a great fit for RPing Slaad!!
Darth Giggles I like this a lot. It's playable at the table, you can imagine it working out, etc.
I might make em smarter than Orks. Orks *can* be cunnin' but they usually ain't. So slaad as super cunning WH40K orks.
add some wahhhhhg to it too and ya got something
I love this idea!
Here's an idea. The party's main front line brawler or meat shield finds a magic great sword or something. It's way overpowered compared to all the other items the party has found. Every time the wielder rolls a 20 the sword cast a random high level death spell on the enemy.
But if the player ever rolls a 1 the sword jumps out of his hand and says "Okay, that's enough of that! I'll handle things from here on." And that's how party found out that their barbarian or paladin had been "fondling" a bored Death Slaad for the last few weeks.
Maybe have a green/gray/death slaad be freed from an archwizard by the party and start sending groups of blue slaads after the party to transform them into slaads out of gratitude.
Well, either the party get turned into Slaad - by definition becoming a stronger being - or the act of fighting off the blue slaads makes the party stronger because of the challenge.
i might add the wahhhhhhg to a slight degree to that too
So I had a fun idea. We have a slaad who owns a house or something with a really big basement. Imprisoned in the basement is a modron and it just spends all day every day trying to organize the basement and get everything all neatly ordered and just right, like a janitor with some hardcore OCD. And every day once everything has been set perfectly in order, the slaad comes in and just wrecks the place up, making the biggest mess it possibly can, just for fun. Then leaves so the modron can get back to work creating something for the slaad to mess up again tomorrow.
for a chaotic flair, the slaad might not always wait until the modron is done, or it might forget about the modron for a really long time, or only knock over one thing sometimes.
And the modron would still probably ignore what the slaad wants and would follow his specific order give to them before they entered the material prime
You can also have Anarcho-Capitalist Slaad.
Hippity hoppity get off of my property!
This is very much a juxtaposition
@@crazylegs5063 It's a chaotic evil aberration. It's politics don't need to make sense.
AnCap CG Slaad ftw
"It's not easy being green." - Kermit the Slaad
I have a couple of blue slaad dudes that occasionally show up. They just . . .do stuff.
For example, once I had them infect a magic user who became a green slaad. The green slaad quickly decided he wanted to be transformed into a plate of ravioli filled with macaroni, pickle juice, and vodka. After helping the green slaad accomplish his dream, they decided to eat him. One of the blue slaads took the plate the former-green-slaad-now-ravioli and ate that. After that, the other one put the ravioli on his friend’s head and ate each piece off one-by-one using his frog tongue.
This is just a normal Tuesday for a Slaad.
Baron Von Kek I’m going to need to do something similar to that soon.
I think I'm gonna have my party meet a Slaad that is just a crazy chill dude that has no ill intent towards them because he doesn't really care about the party, and then he invites them to a Slaad fight Club where the Slaad take on parties 1v party
Alignment shifted Slaad is a fun idea that I've seen bounced around on forums. Slaad are so chaotic that sometimes they arent even chaotic lol.
True chaos includes the potential for seemingly rational ideas. If you can predict chaos, it has become order.
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Rev Scare yeah, ever taken a helicopter ride?
Good one. You're truly edgy.
the Major, from Hellsing Ultimate: "there are some people in this world, certain irredeemable lumps for whom the means do not require an end."
^chaotic things
Pure chaos literally just "is". Constant moment to moment snap decisions. I don't know if the random table is really needed, because they still have wants and desires, they just act on impulse alone. That's how I usually handle it in my games.
If chaos could be predicted, it wouldn't be chaos
You can get both of ideas
They follow for some time a desire that they want
But randomly got bored of this and then prooceeds to make something purely ??????
Yeah that's how I viewed the Slaad. Overarching goal of becoming more powerful, but they have literally no structure or plan to achieve that. They just move to the absolute closest thing that could potentially add to their power and do whatever it takes to acquire it, then move on.
4:15 *partway through the line*
"... ya know what?! Screw it, we're bored, we're going home!"
"We're bored too. Can we speed this up? Maybe all of us at once?"
"Oh, good idea!"
chaos means living one moment at a time with no long term plans, just that...
That was the best description of how a red Slaad reproduces lmao
4:00 You see slaad are chaotic creatures, we see this when the form orderly queues in the midst of battle . Maybe Proudhon was right.
Love it! I'm stealing the idea of a village that's been ravaged by Slaad. Just one, brought in by a hapless wizard that the slaad ate as soon as it was summoned. Chaos everywhere, villagers exploding tadpoles. Thanks for getting my brain cogs spinning a lovely mess for my players.
As one example, I have a Slaad NPC for a Planescape game. One of its goals in life is to give the Lady of Pain a sexually transmitted disease. It takes that goal as seriously as it does any of its other objectives, that is to say, not very.
I almost spit my water reading this
@@Darknight4434 I've since created this character's offspring, a Blue Slaad who's more vicious and aggressive than its Red parent. The blue's a hardcore nonsexual sadist; he's entirely motivated by hate and contempt, but he generally doesn't kill people, because then he can't have fun torturing them anymore. He's vaguely possible to negotiate with, and doesn't necessarily always break his word, depending on whether he thinks he can get a better experience by dealing honestly with someone he thinks he understands; he always saves the option of betraying them at a crucial moment, figuring it's a one-time thing to save for the perfect moment; he has this whole little stable of captives that he keeps prisoner for this purpose, each of which has its own reason for having sought him out, and that gives each one of them this bizarrely unique abusive relationship with him, where they help him wreak havoc against others and avoid the Harmonium's enforcers as he marauds his way around the depths of the Hive, looking for new victims to mess with.
"Where did the Death Slaad come from, Jim?" I died and missed the next minute, had to rewind, lol.
This kind of reminds me of a campaign. Main antagonist was a chaos demon trapped in our realm and it had summoned some shape changing flesh golems, I forget their actual names, to attack us. The only time Magic Jar ever worked for me I possessed the strongest of them. DM got a little upset with me because I had recently talked a giant skeleton monster into joining our party a few sessions prior. So the party went from 3 adventurers to 2 adventurers a giant skeleton monster that took reduced damage from all sources except magical and another giant monster able to cast high level spells and take human form for interactions. I'm sometimes a problem at my table
honestly the best chaotic race is fey from the outer planes, a race represented by hedonism
The intro was A1, 10/10, 2 thumbs up
I see Slaad are more as a lawful corruption of chaos, so they match lawful structures but are much more chaotic
I like the idea of having a Slaad randomly screw the villain over.
I'm finding the Slaad extremely fascinating. I don't even play D&D but even these creatures alone makes me want to test it out with all of the amazing stories I could have with a Slaad, maybe even trying to get at least one player in the party turned into a Slaad, and perhaps on the villain's side, and maybe that player if they had been turned into a green would then choose to embrace the power and try to rise up the stages of Slaad. Perhaps I could turn a member of the party into the rest of the party's greatest adversary.
Yeah man, do it!
I like the idea of beings of pure chaos, it allows for so much toying with cause and effect to make things that really don't make sense. An idea I had while watching this was to make it so that the inciting incident that created the slaad has technically not happened yet, but simply because of the chaotic nature of Limbo, they exist through time. The introduction of the spawning stone didn't just make slaad appear, it made it so that they had somehow always been there.
I agree there should be more monsters that have lasting effects but I fully support removing monsters that drain xp
I think the way the Elder Scrolls lore describes it is pretty good. The "evil" daedric princes are evil because they want change, but the "good" divines are good because they want to keep order. And neutral things just want to do things their way
I find that concept of the slaad being the "trolls" of the D&D world to be the perfect concept to play around with.
I can almost hear nobles using their names to describe bothersome people...
"Oh, you're such a SLAAD!" or "Don't feed the slaad", or something to that effect.
i had my party help a green slaad become a gray slaad. the reward was a one use summon to gain his assistance.
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The best way to have Slaad in your game is to introduce them to the game without telling anyone they are Slaad. Like, create a nameless monster that IS a Slaad, but the players don't know it is. From there, you can turn the entire game into an investigation campaign that leads up to a Black Slaad encounter at the end or maybe even the Slaad "gods".
I love this! the main Villain in my campaign has a Green Slaad henchman who basically is just in it for the knowledge to transform into a gray. this will help me alot. Also because my setting is more law vs chaos instead of good vs evil the whole slaad vs mordrin instead of the angels vs devils idea really solves a problem i was having. keep it up guys.
Glad to assist.
Our party did encounter a village with a slaad problem...it was a pretty cool story arc.
Three of our party got infected with the slaad, but we had to power through the questline before we could even address
Once we dealt with the major threat, we scrambled to find a way to remove the slaad eggs...thankfully, a helpful devil offered a deal we couldn't refuse...
for tier 4 you could always make the black and white slaad make a comeback from earlier editions
Okay, I'm going to try and get a player to play a Green Slaad.
The deal is, they're playing a game where they shapeshift and randomly roll their entire backstory (including which languages they speak). They then have to infiltrate a group of adventurers and try to prevent the other players from finding them out. The game is over if another PC finds definitive proof that they're not who they say they are.
The kicker is that people from the player's fictitious backstory start showing up and playing important roles in the story. It turns out an Old One was amused by them and decided to make things more interesting.
Rhetorical question I have wondered for decades--if the slaadi are so chaotic, why the hell are they color-coded?
Edit: You led me to the answer right after I posted. Sodding Primus. lol
As always, fantastic video. I'd love to see your take on Sphinxes, their divine mission andastery of time makes for many interesting RP scenarios.
I think that the first death slaad was a different slaad that just willed itself to become a death slaad. Limbo lets you do things by just force of will, so maybe a slaad one day said "I wanna do this, this and this" and just thought REALLY hard
I like treating salads as a plague since they can infect and be a really fair and good problem for a campaign past 5 level.
they seek food, power, and most of all battle. Driven by a drive to eat the strong to prove their power.
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Surprised my players with a Death Slaad while they thought they were fighting a leader of a bunch of werewolves. Played the guy like a mix between Bondrewd from Made in Abyss and the Six Finger Man from Princess Bride. The Slaad was using the werewolves to gather up Fey creatures to figure out how the magic of the Weave works in hopes of creating some kind of immortality.
When asked why he's doing this, he responds, "I never let the question, 'why?' get in the way."
Awesome video, guys!
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ferret face reference at the end made my day.
Now I want to create an NPC wizard in his tower that’s really a green slaad in disguise. The party can loot his safe and find the control gem.
little known fact, the Madd hatter was a Slaad
I personally find it fun to have a slaad fighting someone. The guy drops his weapon or something right before the slaad lands a killing blow and it just stops and grabs the weapon gives it back to the guy before murdering him. Like just a super ADHD mess where its fighting and sees a bird or something so it goes chasing after it cuz its mor interesting then fighting you.
I had a group end up in a realm of chaos. There was a rainbow that turned into a swarm of carnivorous butterflies. And later when the party was in a combat a group of dwarves in kilts who kept their weapons in bags showed up and asked if they could "play through." They let the Dwarves takeover their combat and then new opponents showed up for the party. Chaos. Unpredictable.
My theory of death slaads was always that at one point a powerful demon lord like demogorgon or orcus or grazzt showed up in limbo and a bunch of slaad saw them and were astounded by their incredible power, they started worshipping them out of respect and fear, then became suffused with negative energy, went mad(er), and transformed into death slaads.
Dropkick Piper
That's a good one!
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if a powerful demon lord went to limbo, and a grey Slaad ate him, creating the first death slaad
Atuim Misting That could be it too.
thus is the nature of chaos all of those could be true. or none of them
call it Joker theory
The only problem with Atium's theory is that, by that logic, there can only be one Death Slaad, which isn't true. Unless, you're insinuating that multiple Grey Slaads ate multiple Demon Lords?
Just don't not tell the player the red slaad has done something to them like my DM did.
The best way to roleplay a slaad, though it varies by variety, can best be summarized as "be weird". You don't have to go full Fish-Malk with it, though; just have it take blatanly illogical actions for reasons that only make sense from a completely strange perspective. If you have a weird old uncle who says crazy shit that you can't make heads or tails of, channel that energy but kinda give it a 90-degree twist. One example is having a slaad show up and ask if you'd like to lick the slime off him; if you say no, maybe he gets insulted. Another one might tell you that he knows where you can find some treasure, only for it to turn out that by his definition, "treasure" refers to a rare and incredibly stinky fungus growing out of the long-rotten flesh of a dead adventurer, whose corpse has the map to the actual treasure, and you have to wait for the slaad to collect his fungus and go away before you search for the map; if the slaad finds it he'll use it for a napkin while he eats the fungus, and then he'll get mad at you because you didn't show proper table manners by yelling at him while he ate. Just go for whatever Bizarro-level behavior will amuse and confuse the players without frustrating them too much, and you'll have a good time. A lot of old 60s comics have the kinds of outrageous story premises that work well with a Slaad in the mix.
This just gave me the best way for a lich, beholder, death tyrant, and wizard to have an unstoppable army of destruction
Itd be kinda cool to have an allied NPC of the party be like turned into a green Slaad, and then have that NPC/Slaad become a recurring antagonist for the party. As they get into higher levels the green slaad becomes a Gray Slaad and then a Death Slaad.
Hm, interesting idea about the Slaad origin: Primus didn't create the Slaads by accident. Sure he might've not wanted it to get so out of hand, or even expected the Death Slaads to emerge, but in the same way the Upper Planes need angels, the Lower Planes need Fiends, and Mechanus needs Modrons, Primus knew Limbo needed something to embody its chaotic neutral nature. Sure he may not like chaos, and want to get rid of it entirely, but until then the balance of the Outer Planes must be kept.
they look like mutant frogs/toads. pretty intresting.
In the beginning you mentioned that describing slaads is almost alien. I was thinking of using slaads in just that way as if they are xenomorph aliens.
if you try the 20 Red & 20 Blue V the Party, make it 2 bunches of 30, because some Slaads will fight the other Slaads while others will fight the Party, not necessarily in this very order.....
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I don't think "Strength is the only thing that matters" is a chaotic belief. Because that's the law of nature.
Awesome video guys!
Daniel Martinez
Thank you kindly!
Don't death slaad's just come from green slaads? The book says green slaads over time transforms into the gray slaad and eventually a death slaad, seems like it's just a maturation cycle.
Silent Spirit Green slaads meditate and has an epiphany and makes themselves a Grey, who then has to eat a death, who meditates etc etc
as if the Slaad were not as fearsome and unstoppable and feared by demons in 3.5....5e taught us how they bread...
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One thing about slaad is that they are ordered because primus gave them order the gem that controls them is made of order but corrupted by chaos
Applying logic, cause-effect to Slaad is antithetical to what they are. Those are rules of Law, not Chaos. There was no first Death Slaad, as a first would denote Order. You cannot apply it to Limbo. It is utterly chaotic, where effects can come before cause or after or both.
So i have a funny story about slaadi. My players have heard the thing "if you absorb the gem in the slaadis head, you can control it" and by that time they bought a house in my campain where they can store magical items and sell like shopkeepers, but theft is a real thing in my campain (i dont do it often only sometimes) so they needed a guardian for magical items, now hiring a town guard aint enough my friend so, these lads decided "HEY LETS DROP THE PORTABLE HOLE INTO THE BAG OF HOLDING" and a blackhole sucked them up, they were by random chances transported into CARCERI, but i aint a bad dm so i made it be limbo, and we were making a little camp with stabilisyng the areas.
1 hour later of slaying thousends upon milion of slaadi, suffering chaos paghe and curing it with homebrew, i decided "these random encounter slaadi thing sucks" so i tossed a blue slaad in, they cracked his head open, and boom, they finnaly got the guard they needed for they're base.
(Why didn't they just hire a town guard)
the answer to where the death slaad's come from is... the spawning stone, all new death slaad's come from the spawning stone
The Slaadi are kindof like white blood cells in that way, maybe actively existing to break up and carrying off pieces of the stone in some fashion. And I even like the idea that one of their "gods" (one of the few primal chaotic beings) invited or tricked Primus into sending the spawning stone to actively try and prevent anything else from being chaotically born stronger than it. And then promptly lost interest in proving itself strongest or maybe even forgot it'd done anything. Either because of the infection of the stone, or because of the chaotic nature of its own mind.
Loved Faces of Evil. Best part about the Slaadi in that is how little h cares about exactness or rightness. He does stuff. And kindof relates it. Maybe. He tries, lazily, maybe.
Love the community references.
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To pull chaotic toward more of a realistic goal after all there is order in chaos right? I'd say chaotic higher beings may be after the use of entropy. The use of universal energy toward the eventual balance from all being expended and if they use more energy or get others to use more it goes toward their eventual goal no matter how ridiculous the scheme may be.
You know, with how Slaad don't need to follow rules of logic, it seems like they wouldn't even need a reason to exist. Maybe Primus made the spawning stone specifically so that there could be a logical cause for Slaadi to exist, because logic or not they had their slimy hearts set on existing anyway.
I was thinking something similar. Ive been thinking of making my Slaad consider their bodies, with its orderly rules for how to make other slaad and its stable form, a prison forced upon them by the forces of order via the spawning stone. Order prehaps did this because their original shapelessness and illogical nature offended Primus. And that they yearn to be formless chaos energy again. This also makes sense with the mind control gems in their brains, that gem is another piece of order restraining these creatures of chaos in some way.
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Slaads are cool, but I feel like representatives of pure chaos should be able to take any shape, split into smaller slaads, and fusing into larger slaads (which can themselves fuse into bio structures) and be every bit as capable of good as they are of evil.
I played a Changling Wizard who was actualy just a death slaad, Chaotic Neutral never tasted so good
I always kinda figured the first Death Slaad was because one Grey said, "Wonder what would happen if I just ate another Grey?" Then sought an answer.
also they don't kill those that they try to use for procreation, cuz it dose not work if the victim is dead, so they will often keep them alive just enough and will usually only care for the green ones as they r the only spellcasters and are rare among the 3 basic types
Great, now I need to add a Slaad to my game.
Aayy!, audio's fixed ! Mighty awesome !
I'm a big fan of the Gith, an episode on them would be great.
I have a suggestion for a video you might want to cover - Dinosaurs. My players want to fight dinosaurs, but my campaign doesn't really have a place for them apart from the odd island (I caved and did a Skull Island kind of adventure, with big dinosaurs fighting giant apes - please Mr. Jackson, do not sue). I'm thinking of making a whole other continent, a savage one where dinosaurs effectively rule the landscape, apart from the errant dragon who comes wandering over there, but it seems my players don't want to go too far from civilization.
Slaads fighting each other to see who gets the privilege of fighting the party first.
That was a good one
Levonhardt
I concur!
love the intro!
We just fought one of these last night. It was fun. But frustrating.
Can we get a link to the flow chart of Slaad reproduction please! Sounds so awesome!
I was thinking about gifting a red slaad with some toned down features (like shapeshifting, spellcasting, etc) that the higher CR slaad get to throw it at a lower level party... this just makes me more eager to include them in my games!
the ones infected by the red will not even know until it is too late, unless u use a specific kind of detect spell, such as I think it's detect magic?
Good, helpful video, but what about the slaad lords from 2nd edition?
Anyone seen that episode of Dexter's Lab that was revolved around D&D?
That's basically my image of DMs.
If a Blue Slaad infects a Mind Flayer, does that overwrite the Mind Flayer genetics and become a Red/Green Slaad? Do they become some psionic Slaad of a unique color?
Do they become a purple octo faced Frog like monstrosity?
i know that someone has homebrewed an adaptation of the xenomorph for dnd, but I wonder if anyone ever used slads to create an encounter reminiscent of alien or aliens
If there's a slaad infused with negative energy could there be a slaad infused with radiant energy? What about elementally infused slaad?
Slaads/Slaadi don't make very good representatives of Chaos, just as neither Modrons nor Inevitables nor Formians properly represent Law (Inevitables come the closest, but the fact that they're Constructs rather than actual Outsiders is a problem in terms of them being the "Exemplar" race comparable to Angels, Devils or Demons). Slaads were only invented to be monsters; Charles Stross specifically wanted a Lovecraftian vibe when he came up with them, and is on record saying as much. They weren't ever meant to be summoned as allies by a Chaotic Good cleric or anything. Retrofitting them to work as intelligent, reasoning representatives of a cosmic force is difficult, but I've done it on several occasions.The Slaad represent a version of chaos in which you utterly reject all external influences on the self, which is why Blue and Red slaads reproduce each other, and hate each other - it symbolizes their rejection of the continuation from parent to child, which is a manifestation of Law's nature as being ultimately a force of Time and Selflessness, a force which creates institutions that can outlast the mortal individual. Slaads would have no use for cities or governments or even warlords; they don't recognize anything outside their immediate presence as being relevant to them. They don't make promises and they don't believe others who do; a slaad yesterday or a slaad tomorrow is effectively a different person from that same slaad today. They just do whatever they want to, right now, regardless of anything that says they can't or shouldn't, other than a more powerful being who's right there at the time and able to compel them through direct threat. On a fundamental level, no slaad (other than perhaps those who have had direct experience with the Slaad Lords, Ssendam and Ygorl) believes in anything they can't personally detect at the time; they may have a vague sense that "the future" actually exists, but they regard it as dubious and untrustworthy, like a conspiracy theory that they hear lots of people discussing, but suspect is nonsense.