Wray, you must feel so frustrated when people say the "Flexible Pattern" doesn't work! I'm not a metal shaper, I just enjoy the work you do; even I can see the "Flexible Pattern" WORKS. Your explanations ARE very clear. Thank-you. "Metal is Clay"!!
Flexible shape patterns work perfectly every time. I’ve been using them for more than 25 years to design aircraft covers that confirm beautifully to the shape of the aircraft. It’s great to see how we use the same principles and technology but then work different materials to make our end product. That shows how versatile and accurate this pattern making method is, and your end products are works of art! One difference is that our finished product is made from woven fabric sewn together in much the same way as sections of metal panels would be welded. We can’t panel beat our material into shape.
I've seen a lot of TH-camrs shape metal with english wheels and planishing hammers, but one video of yours and this absolutely made sense to me. Most of the other people I've seen don't explain the hows.
thank you Wray, really appreciate when you show a project to completion, esp. a difficult one (rather than just showing the principles and leaving the details of finishing in the dark, where the Devil hides)...
👍👍😎👍👍…… after watching so many of your videos over the last year, this episode really pulls together all you’ve been teaching in a way that just lights up what’s possible. This series is going to be so cool. thanks Wray 🙏
Yes, some people don’t understand how flexible shape patterns work. I hand fabricated left and right front fenders and the lower front extensions for a 1949 f2 by hand off of the rusty originals using 18 gauge sheet metal back in 2013 . Idk if you can buy them in steel now days. That was my first biggest hand fab job I did back then. I was always told I couldn’t do it so all my life I always made it a point to prove that I can.
Ray, you are by far smarter than a whole tree full of owls and twice as talented. I always say that true genius is next to laziness in that it behooves a person to find the simplest, easiest approach while maintaining the quality as the final outcome, you da man.
Hi Wray !Proof is in the pudding , I think this is a tough one considering the many compound folds so ill be staying tuned to see the completion, please font leave us hanging on with an almost completed project. Thanks Dan R.
Thanks Wray. I learned some more and appreciate the discussion in the beginning about the strategy that you would take to make the whole dash and the specific panel. I look forward to seeing more.
Wray, I just came back into the active viewer group for your videos. Glad I did, too. Really satisfying to watch the 550 panels take shape. I watched you create the bonnet/hood for the e-type using the flexible pattern technique. That taught me that the flexible pattern really does work well. Have to agree that the doubters just don't understand the technique yet. They just need to watch a few more of your videos! Many thanks
Great video 👍Wray the idea of making and selling the dash could be a problem as the original Porsches were all different because they was a lot of hand finishing in production.
That is an amazing dash and very well executed. Can't wait to watch the gage bezel. I find it a bit frustrating that your flexible patterns are not something that can be reproduced. I can make the patterns but chances that I will be within arms length of a car like this are pretty close to zero and finding one that I can cover with tape is never going to happen. I visualize a set of patterns that arrive in the mail, spending too much time on Amazon , I guess. That said thank you for sharing.
While the 550 is a well known icon, I prefer the Maserati 450S. Looking at the style of both cars, I now see how the same technique can be used to shape the bodies of both these cars. It's something I want try as a future project. Loving the channel Wray.
@@proshaper Is that right! I'd be interested to see that one. The Maseratis were like our Aussie Valiant Chargers, they lacked the on track success that they should have had.
Your videos are great. Well edited and full of valuable content. I have access to a Porsche 550 Spyder fiberglass replica body for about 1 day. What would be the best way to duplicate the body lines in this short of time? Flexible shaped patterns of 1/2 the car plus a lot of gauges and templates? Thanks.
Wray Once again you have explained the use of the flexible shape pattern with true craftsman like and relative ease for the inexperienced of us out in viewer land. I need to get off my butt and try my hand at some of this metal forming. Also can yo give me the manufacturers details from the the rust 9-11. Trying to find a distributor in Australia
Did Mark change the way that he applies the tape? At the 6:48 minute Mark, it says to lay the tape about 1/16 of an inch apart. I thought in the past it was laid down just touching the previous piece of tape. Am I wrong or is there some reason for the change? Also, the transfer tape is almost parallel to the low stick tape. I thought that it should be perpendicular. Thanks, Pete
Great taste in music. What if the car was made for England? How do manufacturers account for the differences in handedness? Do they actually make separate parts? Btw, the latest iPad and iPhone can make a perfect 3D scan. From the scan, Fusion 360 can be used to create the the skeletal buck frame and ribs which can be directly cut out of plywood using a CNC or plotted on sheets as cutting patterns. Sheetmetal work isn't very different from sewing.
Watch how I make my hammerform. The impulse is always to use the latest technology. The problem is it is so expensive and difficult to master. I tried it five years ago, it only turned into a black hole of expense.
A tipping wheel would leave a sharp transition when a soft radius is needed. If you don't stretch the flange like I did you wouldn't be able to move the flange into the correct position.
Wray, on the corner I originally thought it would have needed shrunk with the shrinker dies. How do you determine between shrink and stretch in this scenario? I know it is in the reading of the Flexible Shape Pattern but how do you determine which is required? Thanks Jesse Halfacre
@@jessehalfacre6543 shrinking is needed when the flexible shape pattern edge lays down on a flat bench top, and inboard there is a loose condition. The loose condition can be filled by stretching inboard or shrinking the edge or a combination of both.
On that flange, stretch is the only way to get the desired result without very elaborate tooling. If you had a hard die to clamp and hammer against you could internal shrink the rolled peak, that is what would happen in a stamping die.
Wray, you must feel so frustrated when people say the "Flexible Pattern" doesn't work!
I'm not a metal shaper, I just enjoy the work you do; even I can see the "Flexible Pattern" WORKS.
Your explanations ARE very clear. Thank-you. "Metal is Clay"!!
Flexible shape patterns work perfectly every time. I’ve been using them for more than 25 years to design aircraft covers that confirm beautifully to the shape of the aircraft. It’s great to see how we use the same principles and technology but then work different materials to make our end product. That shows how versatile and accurate this pattern making method is, and your end products are works of art!
One difference is that our finished product is made from woven fabric sewn together in much the same way as sections of metal panels would be welded. We can’t panel beat our material into shape.
Great teacher, I can't tell you how many times I've fallen asleep watching John Glovers videos. Don't get me wrong he is a very talented metalshaper.
I've seen a lot of TH-camrs shape metal with english wheels and planishing hammers, but one video of yours and this absolutely made sense to me. Most of the other people I've seen don't explain the hows.
A lot of other TH-camrs are still learning basic stuff. Funny thing is they get more views....
thank you Wray, really appreciate when you show a project to completion, esp. a difficult one (rather than just showing the principles and leaving the details of finishing in the dark, where the Devil hides)...
👍👍😎👍👍…… after watching so many of your videos over the last year, this episode really pulls together all you’ve been teaching in a way that just lights up what’s possible. This series is going to be so cool. thanks Wray 🙏
Can’t get enough…. I am addicted to these videos. Truly art work… what a trade
Great project. Thanks for you great teachings.
Yes, some people don’t understand how flexible shape patterns work. I hand fabricated left and right front fenders and the lower front extensions for a 1949 f2 by hand off of the rusty originals using 18 gauge sheet metal back in 2013 . Idk if you can buy them in steel now days. That was my first biggest hand fab job I did back then. I was always told I couldn’t do it so all my life I always made it a point to prove that I can.
Flexible shape pattern, the way to go.
Maybe your best yet. And Mark's section was terrific too. Thank you.
Another great detailed video. One of these days I will be down to take some of your workshops.
This video will be your most viewed Mark. Great stuff as always gentlemen.
Mark is the unsung hero
The videos you have been doing have really helped out my own work. Thanks.
Ray, you are by far smarter than a whole tree full of owls and twice as talented. I always say that true genius is next to laziness in that it behooves a person to find the simplest, easiest approach while maintaining the quality as the final outcome, you da man.
I cant wait to come to your class and work with you,hopefully next year around this time
This really clearifys the flex pattern making and use. Thanks Wray!
Love to watch the way you work it out, all the little tips help to tackle our projects,thank you Wray 👍
These videos are getting more and more refined. Very enjoyable to watch, Wray. Looking forward to the next one!
Hi Wray !Proof is in the pudding , I think this is a tough one considering the many compound folds so ill be staying tuned to see the completion, please font leave us hanging on with an almost completed project. Thanks Dan R.
Really cool that you share all this. Incredible set of skills and techniques!
Thanks Wray. I learned some more and appreciate the discussion in the beginning about the strategy that you would take to make the whole dash and the specific panel. I look forward to seeing more.
Great video Wrey and Mark all your content is awesome to watch.
The clay, such a great tool, and holds the panel. Neat
Wray, I just came back into the active viewer group for your videos. Glad I did, too. Really satisfying to watch the 550 panels take shape. I watched you create the bonnet/hood for the e-type using the flexible pattern technique. That taught me that the flexible pattern really does work well. Have to agree that the doubters just don't understand the technique yet. They just need to watch a few more of your videos! Many thanks
Thanks for sharing this stuff Wray. I really need to make time to sign up for one of your classes.
Great video 👍Wray the idea of making and selling the dash could be a problem as the original Porsches were all different because they was a lot of hand finishing in production.
What a cool project....neat to watch it take shape...
That is an amazing dash and very well executed. Can't wait to watch the gage bezel. I find it a bit frustrating that your flexible patterns are not something that can be reproduced. I can make the patterns but chances that I will be within arms length of a car like this are pretty close to zero and finding one that I can cover with tape is never going to happen. I visualize a set of patterns that arrive in the mail, spending too much time on Amazon , I guess. That said thank you for sharing.
I've done the flexible shape patterns. Yes, they do work.
You make it look so easy
Thanks Wray excellent video very helpful.
Very nice work,great video, thanks for sharing
Very entertaining stuff guys. Really inspiring.
To make your body gauges quickly use a large tiling contour gauge then it's easily transferred to another material
Great video.
Good voice over
While the 550 is a well known icon, I prefer the Maserati 450S. Looking at the style of both cars, I now see how the same technique can be used to shape the bodies of both these cars. It's something I want try as a future project. Loving the channel Wray.
I have a 300S Maserati project in process.
@@proshaper Is that right! I'd be interested to see that one. The Maseratis were like our Aussie Valiant Chargers, they lacked the on track success that they should have had.
Excellent!
Wray as always, love it !!!
So interesting, thanks a lot for sharing !
Antoine
thank you
That's a difficult panel man geeze.
Your videos are great. Well edited and full of valuable content. I have access to a Porsche 550 Spyder fiberglass replica body for about 1 day. What would be the best way to duplicate the body lines in this short of time? Flexible shaped patterns of 1/2 the car plus a lot of gauges and templates? Thanks.
You will need help.to get it done in a day.
Wray
Once again you have explained the use of the flexible shape pattern with true craftsman like and relative ease for the inexperienced of us out in viewer land.
I need to get off my butt and try my hand at some of this metal forming.
Also can yo give me the manufacturers details from the the rust 9-11.
Trying to find a distributor in Australia
Try www.rust911.com
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Nice work.
Did Mark change the way that he applies the tape? At the 6:48 minute Mark, it says to lay the tape about 1/16 of an inch apart. I thought in the past it was laid down just touching the previous piece of tape. Am I wrong or is there some reason for the change? Also, the transfer tape is almost parallel to the low stick tape. I thought that it should be perpendicular. Thanks, Pete
Both ways work.
Great video as always! But why did you you start on the English wheel instead of the bend that required so much stretching?
Great taste in music. What if the car was made for England? How do manufacturers account for the differences in handedness? Do they actually make separate parts? Btw, the latest iPad and iPhone can make a perfect 3D scan. From the scan, Fusion 360 can be used to create the the skeletal buck frame and ribs which can be directly cut out of plywood using a CNC or plotted on sheets as cutting patterns. Sheetmetal work isn't very different from sewing.
The accuracy is not there yet.
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Great video Wray. How much thickness do you lose at the edge during a stretch like that?
If it is too thin, I have the option of welding on most of the lower section of the flange.
Thank you for the video Wray. Is there a method to scan a part and then 3d print a hammer form strong enough to make parts?
Watch how I make my hammerform. The impulse is always to use the latest technology. The problem is it is so expensive and difficult to master. I tried it five years ago, it only turned into a black hole of expense.
Could you use a tipping die to get the 90 degree bend just before you annealed it?
A tipping wheel would leave a sharp transition when a soft radius is needed. If you don't stretch the flange like I did you wouldn't be able to move the flange into the correct position.
Welding that flange on an option???
Yes, I might weld in the lower half of it if the metal thinned too much.
I know Bruce and Collins kimmons you still work for them out of California for a little while
Hey Wray, what would a hammer form for a panel like this look like?
Keep watching.
A 3-d scanner is a “must have” for what you’re doing. They’re getting really cheap for a decent one $500-1000...I just picked one up.
Been there done that.... I found it too expensive and complicated.
Wray, on the corner I originally thought it would have needed shrunk with the shrinker dies. How do you determine between shrink and stretch in this scenario? I know it is in the reading of the Flexible Shape Pattern but how do you determine which is required?
Thanks Jesse Halfacre
The flexible shape pattern shows it was all loose over on the right upper corner of the panel. That looseness shows a stretch is needed.
So with that theory, if it was tight around the corner, it would have required shrinking?
@@jessehalfacre6543 shrinking is needed when the flexible shape pattern edge lays down on a flat bench top, and inboard there is a loose condition. The loose condition can be filled by stretching inboard or shrinking the edge or a combination of both.
Is there a better powder than talc to de-stick the pattern? Maybe corn starch? Silicone spray?
I use plaster of Paris, always have. It is very inexpensive.
is there an internal shrink that may have worked? or is this a stretch the edge situation only?
On that flange, stretch is the only way to get the desired result without very elaborate tooling. If you had a hard die to clamp and hammer against you could internal shrink the rolled peak, that is what would happen in a stamping die.
Nice Video. Wish I could do half of the work what you do. Need a lot of Tools and Knowledge.
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