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I just would like to comment on your assessment of Schindler throughout the film: Maybe you got a bad idea of him from the very beginning since he's painted as a powerful, egomaniac and self-righteous man only working only for himself, which he was in the beginning, both, in the movie and in real life, but there were little hints at his future turn and how he got there. Yes, he was a profiteer and exploitative businessman at the very beginning of the story, the same as in real life; he thought of the Jewish people very little but he also deep down despised the German Nazi officers occupying his city, he was just playing along to gain their trust and use them to his advantage. In the end it is shown how he grew and evolved to care about and feel more for all people and try to protect the Jewish he was initially dismissive and indifferent about. He tried to be close to the top officers to keep his business working and to deviate attention from him. However, throughout the film he evolved into caring about the people and people's situations as well, not only business and numbers, as well as to learning how unjust, evil and despicable the Nazi mentality driven soldiers and officers were, so he grew a deep hate for them. At the very beginning you were right, he wasn't working against them nor trying to be a "double agent" but he despised Nazis and was analyzing and observing them so he could be able to manipulate and get as many of them in his pocket, he was cold and calculating as the business man he was. He was as opportunistic as possible to his advantage but started to feel guilty for using Jewish people as slave labor basically. He intentionally got many people to work for him, more than he needed and sometimes people who weren't skilled in factory working, just to get them away from the Nazi regime's hold. He started to not only think of them as people he could profit but as people who were struggling and suffering. For example in the scene where the old one-armed worker goes to thank him, you're right on the assessment of him feeling guilty or growing uneasy about his conscience; he dismissed the worker for two reasons: 1. Keeping the appearances / facade of being a Nazi sympathizer, as to not arise any suspicions, if the rumours of him being nice to his workers spread. 2. Because he felt guilty about himself and didn't want to grow expressive and show how he really felt, he wasn't able to live with his consciousness. When he sees the little girl is a sign of a turn or change in his mind by realizing how helpless and innocent these people were against the violent and repulsive nature of the Nazi soldiers and sympathizers who were hateful, violent, ruthless and horrible towards these helpless people. You can see a turn in his eyes, in his demeanor from this point on and then tried to, with little gestures, help the Jewish little by little however he could. By the end we have the full circle closure of his arc, which of course he went from being a selfish, egocentric man, to a selfless, altruistic and caring benefactor for the local Jewish community. Schindler was struggling with his feelings and trying to disguise them all the time, at first to try to fool himself but later to fool others, because deep down he was a good man, a good person. He used his power and status to help others, to give back to the community and the less fortunate, rather than himself or his close ones. A couple more points: Amon Goerth was truly a terrible despicable person in real life, who enjoyed in people suffering and pain and his character was toned down from all the horrible, disgusting, terrible things he did in real life, that's really how he was. The fascist and Nazi sympathizers and brainwashed soldiers were either really sick or grew to have some really terrible disgusting mentalities. A lot of this movie is grounded in real life, like how Goeth's gun got jammed and his subordinates', these were things that really happened and show how a lot fo times it was just fate and destiny that played a part in keeping these people alive and who were really helpless, at the mercy of their captors or luck and in contrast how important was the help of outsiders like Schindler who, prevented an otherwise catastrophic and tragic ending to a many more thousands of families. Really something to think about, and reflect upon: doing the right thing, being conscious about the other and being caring and loving of people regardless of how dire the situation is, doing the right thing for the common good. I really enjoyed your commentary and reaction, I hope you're doing great!
Another comment I forgot about: many of the same texts, poems verses and even books are found in the Qur'an, Torah and Bible, the Christian Bibles, which are all basically the same, are essentially the Torah, called the Old Testament, plus the New Testament. That's why Islam, Judaism and Christianity are considered part of the same religion family, they have the same foundations, text and origin stories. However people prefer to see the differences and hate instead of seeing the similarities and unite over them.
At the end of the film when you see people putting rocks on the grave of Schindler, the younger people are the actors in the film, and the older people are the real people those actors were portraying!
If only Japan was as honest about dealing with its past as Germany. Any Muslim who wonders why so many Europeans won't criticize Israel should watch this movie. There are still a lot of bad memories lingering even after eighty years, and saying anything that might sound even a little bit like Nazi sympathizing is heavily taboo.
@@ayacachotinemi4974 Let's be real, 99% of westerners have no clue what's going on in israel. Especially young people are pro-palestine because it's popular. It's just virtue signaling for clout
@@ayacachotinemi4974when I look at Germany I wonder wether they should have went with the Japanese route. As you said it's hard to say anything against Israel without being labeled a nazi. Especially in Germany or Austria
@@SawsanYasen-nu5vo No, just no. Get your history right and don't talk such BS please. BTW, a German speaking here if that is from some kind of importance to you. And yes, i know the answer...
Nazis weren't targeting Muslims; in fact, Hitler had quite an admiration for Islam. He even cooperated with them and had a Muslim SS unit in Bosnia. He was in contact with some prominent imams in the Middle East and hoped Muslims would help him drive the British from there.
The truth is a little more complicated than that. The Nazi's didn't target Muslims specifically just for being Muslims, that's true, and he spoke admirably privately and in public about his twisted idea of what Islam was, but he did target many Muslims for other reasons, such as race and minority status in the Nazi occupied territories. . An important thing to remember is that Hitler and the Nazi's borrowed (and built on) the idea of the superior Aryan race from the Iranians who also had a similar concept of Aryan superiority (Iran translates in Persian to "Land of the Aryans"). Hitler viewed Iranians as his natural allies because of what the Nazis believed was a common descent with the Germanic peoples and wanted to seduce them into joining the Axis powers, which never happened. Most of the Nazi propaganda concerning Islam was aimed at bringing Arab Nations in the Middle East to his side against the Allies (many of which were either current or former colonial overlords in those areas.) However, the Nazi's did not have the same regard for people, Muslims or otherwise, in North Africa, and the concentration camps there saw many Muslims put to death along with the Nazi regimes usual victims. Out of the over 10 Million civilians killed in the Holocaust an estimated 6+ Million were Jewish and they were by far the single most targeted group but the extermination of the Slavs, Roma peoples ("Gypsies") and many many more INCLUDING the Arab-Berbers of Algeria and neighboring North African countries were all targets for the "Final Solution." Being from Algeria, I imagine the Brothers have a very different perspective than Muslims from countries allied with Nazi Germany during WWII.
@@edmillan7427 Hitler didn't care that much about non-Jewish and non-gipsy populations outside of Europe; Berbers weren't targeted for the Final Solution; if they were targeted for something, it was non-compliance with the Vishy Administration in Algeria. I don't even think there was any systematic targeting by Germans at all in North Africa since the Algerian part was controlled by Vichy and the rest De jure by Italy, but that part was active front-line most of the time. Muslims were surely affected by WW2, as were everyone else, but nobody was sent to concentration or extermination camps simply because they were Muslim or Arab.
@@edmillan7427 Hitler would have eventually targeted all non-Aryan races once his primary objectives were complete. He even considered Ukranians to be subhuman because they were Slavs.
In Auschwitz, it was policy for prisoners to take regular showers (for "cleanliness") in order to create a routine so that prisoners would go into the showers quietly. Most of the time it was a regular shower, but when they needed to create room for more prisoners, they would turn on the gas instead of the water. You never knew if it was life or death. The soft-spoken Nazi who was asking the old woman's age was Dr. Mengele, who ran the medical experiments at Auschwitz. Prisoners were used as guinea pigs.
Not only that. Some transports were exterminated immediately. Auschwitz was not only a concentration camp but also an extermination camp like Treblinka.
Auschwitz had three large concentration camps and several small ones. The largest and most famous with the iconic train entrance and railway terminal was known as Birkenau. Two or three trains packed with prisoners arrived every day at Birkenau from 1942 to 1944. If fresh workers were needed at any of the town's camps, new arrivals were sorted into two groups - fit to work (strong healthy adults) and not fit to work (weak, sick, old and women with children). All of the latter and any surplus from the former were gassed before the next train arrived.
One has to imagine..Spielberg was not able to show the full extent on how horrible the reality was , so what you see in the movie was just maybe 10 percent of the unimaginable horror that happened. And for me as German it is important to mention: Those were normal people that turned into monsters that did this..they did that, went home to their families for dinner played with their kids and returned the next day. Evil lurks behind the eyes of ordinary men and women so we must be ever watchful, because you dont see it like one would think..evil hides itself well until it might be too late
And now in the US we are trying to ensure evil like this does not rise again through our elections this year. It does lurk in the shadows waiting for the right moment to reveal itself. We only had a taste of it in 2016....I believe this time, if we allow it, it will come full-flavored!
The Little girl in the red coat walks through the chaos like nothing else exists except for her to get to where she is going and Schindler is mezmorized by her obliviousness. Later when he sees she was executed with the others he is heart broken and becomes determined to help the Jews even more. He started out as a money hungry womanizing bastard but he ended up being a man with a big heart saving a great many lives.
do you want to say something about millions and millions of people in cccp concentration camps for half century after usa sold eastern europe to communists in 45?
@@divacroft1034sold? We didn't want to fight another war. What, we're suddenly responsible for and required to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of lives, maybe millions, to free Eastern Europe? The US did what it could, look at the Berlin airlift, they spent a lot of money doing the best they could in the situation. How you equate that with China 80 years later putting Uyghurs in concentration camps is beyond me, or any other rational person.
@@Alex-dh2cx you peasants signed the paper = all suffering on your hands...satan stalin even smiling in pictures hpw dumb usa and uk was to give him half europe without even a fight and tens of millions sent to concentration camps...if we knew you gonna sell us out for half century of slavery we would have helped germany to win the war.
A timeless masterpiece. I've been to Auschwitz, the concentration camp is still there and I fainted two times. You can breath the death still today, after 80 years. The actor Ralph Fiennes, who plays Amon Goeth, is a very nice person in real life, and said this was the hardest role he has ever made.
We took a school trip to Auschwitz when I lived in Germany. I cannot forget the smell. We didn't talk for 3 days after we returned. It was a great experience though....it will whip any racist thoughts out of your head real quick. I do think that everyone should see it in person.
@@rhiahlMT I remember that school visit there over 30 years ago and knowing the barracks were not original didn't help. As you said, death permeates the place.
Germany was a majority Christian nation, but the leadership of the Nazi party was religiously Gnostic. Basically a strange combination of eastern mysticism, occult/esoteric religion, and ancient Germanic paganism.
Hitler was Catholic, mein kampfe is him literally talking about being gods right hand But he focused less and less on Catholic principles after he got supreme power That group you mentioned was headed by Himmler and inner circle members
Hm, well, no, not really. The Nazi leaders (and the SS) saw the Christian religion as a product of Jews (which is correct), and they despised/hated everything that had to do with the Jewish religion. But most of the germans still were christians and had very strong believes, the Nazis would have lost every backup by the public, if they tried to get rid of Christianity. That's why the tried everything to get both christian churches in Germany to acknowledge their politics. Hitler and his guys mostly were socialists (kind of) and had no faith in any God whatsoever. They admired (and used) some religions as a tool to controle people and make them do what they wanted. Only Himmler and his SS held that neo-germanic paganism worth to be a quasi-religion for them with Himmler being a firm admirer and reader of germanic-hero-stories of the early 1900s with no base in any actual historical accurate background stories.
@@mattwerdell7151 Catholicism is one of the main branches of Christianity...the others being Protestantism and Eastern Orthodox. I'm not sure why that different is important lol.
I've watched several videos recently of young people learning about WWII for the first time. It's very upsetting to know that as the events of WWII pass from living memory, meaning those who experienced it firsrt hand are almost gone from this earth, it's also beginning to pass from our collective memory. Even more upsetting is seeing how many people across the world are not just ready, willing, and able, but also eager to bring back the kinds of attitudes and practices that precipitated the rise of fascism in Germany. People of good conscience need to be aware because this kind of monstrous, appalling thing should never, ever happen again. Peace to all. 💗🖖🏽
I am 16 and me and my friends all offer free tutoring at my old school which gives me a pretty good idea of how much high school age kids know about history. It seems to me like people my age generally know the very basics of WW2 but not anything past that. I don't think it's our fault I think it has a lot to do with how history is taught. People often say the reason we should learn history is so that we don't repeat the same mistakes but in practice we are just forced to memorize a bunch of trivia without ever diving deeper. Our classes should involve asking questions like "why did everyday Germans allow the Holocaust to happen" This would lead to an exploration and discussion on the dynamics of prejudice, propaganda, the bystander effect, indoctrination, coercion and how it relates to authoritarianism. I love history but learning the date Dan mcdoodle signed some random treaty and only retaining it for just long enough to take a test and then probably forgetting it is completely useless. It also leads to such a shallow understanding of what the underlying topics which makes people so easy to manipulate.
In Poland, WWII was very important, we learn about it almost every year at school, we watch films, talk to insurgents and people who survived the war, etc.
@@corbinlittle4746 May I ask what country you are from? Because our history classes in Germany used to do just that. Ask how it was possible, what contributed to it etc. We were only made to memorize very few dates. So if you have questions in this regard ask away. There is also a great source "Zeitzeugenportal" here on TH-cam. It is eyewitness accounts of people who lived through that times. I think the new translation features will make this more available for English-speakers.
There were very few blacks or Muslims in Europe in the 1940s. The majority of those murdered by the Nazis were Jews, Slavs, Gypsies & anyone in the occupied countries who resisted. Hitler reportedly thought of Islam as a martial 'race' and the Nazis courted the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem & supported an uprising in Iraq. Himmler, the head of the SS, raised a Bosnian Muslim SS Division to fight the Yugoslav Partisans (the 13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar) which was visited by the mentioned Grand Mufti. As you can imagine, there were Arabs who were sympathetic to the Nazis persecution of the Jews (The enemy of my enemy is my friend). You may enjoy a French film called Days of Glory (cheesy title) about North African troops fighting for the Free French in Italy & Germany. I think they were from Morocco. It came out in 2006.
There were and still are quite a few Muslims in the Balkans. Kosovo, Albania, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro and others. These areas were controlled by the Ottoman Empire for centuries. Many sided with the Nazis because the Nazis were fighting France and Great Britain, and both had a terrible history in the Middle East after WWI when they split up the former Ottoman Empire lands there. (Sykes-Picot Agreement).
True there weren't many black people at that time, but Hitler hated them and mixed race people enough to have the sterilized. He also went after Germans like Jehovah's Witnesses who refused to deny their beliefs just to save their own lives. When you add the mentally and physically disabled people, it's a wonder he didn't try to kill everyone but himself.
after all that happened in the last year, it's really nice and refreshing seeing two religious muslims really open, empathic, and not hatefull towards jews/jewish history
Your perspective on this movie was very interesting. Thank you for this reaction. As a German let me explain a few scenes: most importantly I think the scene where they were sent into the showers in Auschwitz. There were actual showers but there where also rooms that were made to look like showers. They gave the people soap and told them to tag their belongings when they got undressed so that they would believe they were only sent into a shower. It is much easier to handle a crowd and make them go into a gas chamber that way. Because this is what those look alike showers were. They got gassed, their gold teeth got pulled afterwards and then the bodies would get burned - which made it rain ashes all around the camps. They used the hair to make blankets and other "goods". When people arrived in the camps they were sorted. Those who still were healthy enough were send to the Auschwitz working camp as slave labour. All others were killed immediatly by gassing. Those in the working camps often died of diseases, starvation or were send to the gas chambers when they were no longer able to work. In some camps cannibalism started because people were starving. They made inmates do the dirty work of working in the gas chambers and getting rid of the bodies as well. About the ideology: It was not a religious belief that made people do this. This was based on a race theory. In the nazis eyes anyone who was not Aryan was a lesser human species, sometimes not better than cattle in their eyes. There was some kind of scale to this. Eastern Europeans were not Aryan but better than Jewish people or Turks were better than Arabs and so on. Don`t ask me about the logic behind it because there is none. And people believed that. So people could be Nazis and call themselves Christian although it is against the religion to commit such atrocities. In their eyes it was no conflict because they believed those other people to be lesser humans. your delight when you realized the engraving in the ring is also a quote from the Koran really got me. Our religions no matter if Jewish, Christian or Muslim all share some of the same books. How on earth is it possible that today after all that happened in this war and after all the "never agains" we are here today with all those conflicts flaring up. And that history repeats itself? No common people, no human being wants wars and hatred and misery. And yet all this bullshit happens today. I will never understand it. About the Jews in Europe: they literally had no place to go. There were GErmans or Poles or from any other nation in Europe. But would you like to keep living in a country were people did such crimes as you saw here to you? when you had to live in fear for a decade and most if not all of your family and friends got murdered and the murderers still roamed free and often did not get punished? Where all cities laid in ruins? No nations really had an answer on what to do with the surviviors. So that problem got dumped to another region.
the experimentation the japanese conducted on allied prisoners is horrifying to read about... surgeries without anesthesia, amputations of limbs and replacing them with limbs of others, locking prisoners in boxes with no water/food until they died. and, of course, the mass rapes of women when they invaded china. and apparently this history is not taught in japan and current generations have no idea of the crimes they committed.
Why don't you let each tragedy have its place? "As bad as this tragedy is". This movie is not about the Japanese. There's other movies about the Japanese. Should we write on a movie about the Rape of Nanjing, "as bad as this tragedy was, let's not forget 6 million Jews were subject to horrors beyond human comprehension in the holocaust by the Germans."? Why don't you bring up the thousands of Italians murdered and raped by the French Expeditionary Corps. Or the Gegenmiao massacre committed by the Russians? Or the Communist purges in Serbia in 1944-45, Or the hundreds of thousands of Chinese dead just from the conscription methods of the Chinese Nationalist Forces, or the Rapes of thousands of Okinawan women by US forces? Or the 18 million people sent to the Gulag by Stalin's government? I hate when people that try to take the focus on a specific tragedy away or compare genocides, as if they could possibly be worse for the people involved, on any scale.
This is true, under Japanese occupation Over 6 million Koreans, Cambodians, Burmese, and etc were murdered alone That's not counting the pows and slave forces used by the Japanese to build the Burmese railroad which was one large death March Still, that was not a systematic process like the concentration camps That was imperialist rule The Nazis are the only group in history to industrialize extermination like they were making motors in a factory
As an American Christian I can't get over how similar Jews and Muslims are in their beliefs yet have this seemingly never ending struggle. I wish nothing but the best for everyone and it's sad to see almost all wars are still based off religious differences.
Pardon the length of the reply, it's just that I often hear, especially from atheists/skeptics etc that religion is and has been the primary cause of wars. So I would like to respond to that claim.... the majority of the following comes from a book called "The Irrational Atheist" by Vox Day, his book is available online for free as a pdf, it is heavily footnoted to support the statistics. Se page 219 in the pdf for the chart as seen below. Actually, almost all wars were not based on religious differences, though of course there were some wars that involved people of religious differences. The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined. According to the 3 volume Encyclopedia of War there are 121 entries listed under “religious wars”, one of the entries deals with two wars, so a revised figure would be 122 wars, or only 6.9% of the wars considered by Phillips and Axelrod's Encyclopedia of War. The greatest culprits in human history in terms of war and especially the causalities that resulted from their totalitarian regimes, were atheists. Secular (atheistic) totalitarianism is “the summa of human evil.” It seems no one really cares why atheists kill innocent people en masse. People are primarily concerned with the undeniable fact that atheists do it with such an astonishing degree of regularity on the rare occasions that they find themselves in a position to do so. Below you can see the number of deaths and the worldview or ideology behind those deaths. Schwinn bicycles are included as a way to show a comparison of how many died as a result of riding bicycles as compared to everything else. Historical Event Responsible Dates Total Deaths Deaths per year Great Leap Forward atheists 1958-1963 43,000,000 8,600,000 Holodomor atheists 1932-1933 3,500,000 1,750,000 Holocaust pagan theists 1941-1945 6,000,000 1,500,000 Spanish Red Terror atheists 1936-1939 72,344 24,114 Children’s Bicycles Schwinn 1920-2007 11,310 130 Spanish Inquisition Christian theists 1481-1834 3,230 9 Medieval Inquisitions Christian theists 1184-1500 2,000 6 Portuguese Inquisition Christian theists 1540-1794 1,175 5 **** IMHO its overly generous to consider Hitler's Nazism as "pagan theism". In reality, Hitler espoused Monism; which is a philosophical worldview that posits the existence of a single, fundamental substance or principle as the ground of reality. Hitler's relationship to religion as one of opportunism and pragmatism: "his relationship in public to Christianity - indeed his relationship to religion in general - was opportunistic. There is no evidence that Hitler himself, in his personal life, ever expressed any individual belief in the basic tenets of the Christian church". Hitler stated, "We do not want any other god than Germany itself. It is essential to have fanatical faith and hope and love in and for Germany." Keep in mind that for Hitler, the "Final Solution" would eventually include the elimination of Christianity every bit as much as it included the elimination of the the Jews.
Oskar couldn't let people think that the factory was saving people. It had to be strictly business or the Grrmans would have shut him down and probably killed him. He couldn't afford to have rumors of it being a haven.
IN high school in the early 1980's I knew a girl who was being raised by her grandmother, who happened to be a Jewish Holocaust survivor. she was a great lady.
i am so pleased you watched this film. thank you. a fact, when filming this film, spielberg called robin williams to do some comedy show for the actors and all who were working to do this film, due to it was a depressing for all of them
In Oskar's factory, when he was like "It is Friday, isn't it?" He wasn't giving the man the day off, he was telling him to go celebrate the Sabbath (which had been made illegal elsewhere, but he was recognizing their humanity by allowing them to observe their religious feast and prayers anyway). Thats why nothing bad happened even though the whole factory could hear him singing the prayer.
Over 20 years since I first saw this movie I haven’t forgotten that little boy in the toilet it’s the first thing that comes to my head after all these years.
We all worship the God of Abraham, too bad people can't understand that. Pointless fighting each other when we are all cousins worshipping, Allah, Jesus, Jehovah, we are not enemies, but friends.
Unfortunately, you are wrong on one point: the Nazis did not treat Muslims like Jews. On the contrary, Muslims were allies of the Nazis because of their hatred of Jews. Even the SS had two divisions made up entirely of Muslims. The Nazis didn't like it, but they were needed.
Actually they did target Muslims in occupied territories For birth defects, racial make up They allied themselves with certain Muslim groups and nations but they did target Muslims in Europe and Africa
Worth pointing out there wasn't a significant Muslim population in Germany at the time so they were not in a position to be painted as undesirables like the Jews, gays, Romani, communists and disabled people a German would encounter on a regular basis. Now that there is a significant Muslim population in Europe, the present far-right racists have turned their hate toward them.
They didn't do it, because they hated Jews... they did it like all the non german people simply because they wanted to survive that horror. There were special divisions for Polish, Croats and so on...
the golden thing that the guy grabbed form the door frame is a jewish faith relic that serves two purposes to protect the house and show that jewish person lives there.
A Mezuzah is not a relic. It is a box containing a parchment with two verses from the Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4-9 and 11:13-21. It is also a reminder of the lamb's blood placed on doorframes during the final Plague of the Exodus.
Schindler was not giving the Rabbi the day off. Friday was their Sabbath, their day of worship. They use wine in their ceremony. Schindler respected their faith and beliefs.
The scene where he is dictating the list, where he knows the names and the people, I always break down crying there. I can handle everything else, but that scene just hits me so hard.
there's a local saying that goes: "Only God could make a german Luger click" - and Spielberg made it litteral in that scene. What a director! Thnx for a great reaction guys!
lol They didn’t treat Muslims like the Jews. There were several SS brigades made up of Muslims from the Balkans, and the Muslims in North Africa collaborated with the Wehrmacht.
You say they hated anyone not white? They allied the Japanese dude. The race thing was thrown away at convenience. I'm not gonna say they wouldn't betray their allies later. But Hitler didn't give a shit about Muslims.
@1:08:00 People think that it won't happen again. And when I bring it up they often say the same thing, 'but they need workers,' basically. Chris Williamson did an interview with Paul Hutchinson, and 48 min in during the chapter "Meeting Terrifying People With Terrifying Wealth," he really says why that is not the case. So yeah, it can happen again.
Jews were not the only group targeted during the Holocaust, but they were the largest by far. Still, many Roma/Gypsies, communists, Poles and Russians (including many POWs), the handicapped, homosexuals, political opposition and "Non-Aryan" races were also targeted. There weren't many black people, but those who were in Germany were subjected to racist laws and often forcibly sterilized, but some went to concentration camps too. Most Muslims who ended up in concentrations camps came from Russia, not Poland. Some ended up in Poland, but it was not until later in the war. Many of them were POWs, but there wasn't really a coherent policy for eliminating Muslims specifically, unless they were also Slavs or Roma. It's important to remember that the Nazis' ideology was focused on racial identity not religion (Jews were considered a distinct race under the Nuremberg Laws, and depending on your grandparents you would be considered Jewish or "Mixed" even if you didn't practice Judaism.) Many Muslims were also killed in Serbia and the other Yugoslavs; however, I think Serbia had its own camps and it was functioning more as a client state beneath Germany. There was also segregation in the camps. Jews would be transferred to other camps, as would the Roma, the communists, etc. Since this movie takes place in Poland and the efforts of Schindler, it only looks at the Jews who were in that specific region, none of the other groups.
This is the first time I have watched this movie since I first saw it in the theaters in the 1990s. I was so traumatized for days. The memory of this movie is etched into me. I will never understand humanity's inhumanity to one another.
Oscar Schindler when he first became a NAZI worked as a spy in his home country Czechoslovakia that had a large displaced German population that was separated from Germany when the Austro-Hungarian empire was dissolved at the end of WW1. Oscar used his popularity in the Nazi party to start personal businesses to support the war effort using slave labor and that is where the story for this movie begins.
first minutes "they treated muslims the same". Well.. Hitler was friends with Haj Amin al-Husseini, and they talked about palestine and agreed on jews i think. And the SS made use of arabs in some of their divisions just like they did scandinavians and others who were not part of the german area who volunteered.
While they were doing that with that leader They were murdering African Muslims and blacks in North Africa In Czechoslovakia, Bosnia, and Ukraine they were killing communists and Muslims through reprisals from resistance groups Or targeted cleansing Marshall Tito had many Muslims in his forces when he fought the Nazis as well. They made deals with certain Muslim leaders and groups But if you were a slavic Muslim you were considered a slav And the Nazis Slaughtered Slavs, who they called barley above animals.
@@mckenzie.latham91ofc, Slavs are untermenschen according to them, No matter the religion. My point is that our dear brothers think nazis were motivated by some overarching and equal racism and disliked jews the same as muslims or black africans. The last two groups weren't an "issue" for nazis in europe. This was before mass migrations remember. And Hitler expressed an admiration for islam and saw its potencial as a useful religion for soldiers to have. I can tell you in no uncertain terms that there weren't any auxillary SS made up of jews.
I sadly got into this reaction in the middle, but I have no problem watching the replay! I Love your reactions! ❤ The Germans claimed to be Christians, but Hitler, the SS, and nazi Party were very much into the occult and pagan worship. Muslims, Jews & Christians have much in common from the Old Testament & are the 3 Abrahamic religions. England controlled the lands of palestine (named by the Romans when they forced the Jews to leave around 78 CE (AD). England was the one, at request of the UN, that divided the land between the Jews and Arabs living as nomads in the land as neither Egypt nor Arabia would grant land for those Arabs - now known as Palestinians - to establish their own country. Israel originally was granted more land than they have today but gave up some of their "land for peace" during the peace agreements of the 70s and 80s. Sadly, none of those peace plans worked out. Trump's plans have come the closest to working to date. Each of those 3 religions believes theirs is the correct belief and the Holy Land & the great city of Jerusalem has great meaning to all 3. The Book of Daniel says Jerusalem would become a contentious city for the world in later days - written almost 500 years before Jesus. It would be a beautiful day if all of them could worship freely, in their own way, in the land. Only then will hostilities & war end. Pray for the peace in Jerusalem - for everyone.
You have to wonder at the history education and the news allowed in Algeria. These brothers are wonderful souls, but it is so obvious certain facts have been withheld from them in education and news.
@@billbliss1518 I don´t think the facts were withheld- it´s just not part of their curriculum and that is in a lot of countries that way because it was not part of their history, in almost all countries of South America, Africa and Asia the Holocaust is not or barely mentioned. I live in Europe and of course it was a big part in history classes but the lessons stopped with the Nuremberg Prozess what happened after, the Partition plan, the Nakba etc., we didn´t learn a thing about it. Just like we didn´t learn anything about the crimes and massacres of the Japanese during WWII. Pearl Harbor was mentioned but they killed up to 20 Million people in China and South East Asia and I didn´t learn about it until years later in a documentary.
I love their channel but some of the comments made were factually incorrect and the constant mentioning of palestine and gaza despite this being a movie about the consequences of what hundreds of years of ignored and internalized antisemitism can lead to.
No, that is not right. The allies did not say "they can just have it". When Germany invaded Poland, England and other allies declared war on Germany. But they were in absolutely no postition to do anything about territory concered on the other side of the land continent. How on earth could they.
My grandfather was Jewish, from what is now Ukraine but in his youth was the Russian Empire. I'm so glad that he and his family got the hell out of there a couple of decades before this crap happened.
Regarding the scene towards the end when Schindler makes the sign of the cross on himself: This is something that some Christians do, mainly Catholics and eastern Orthodox, although slightly differently. Catholics do it only at the beginning and the end of the prayer (or when they do something religious) and it's up - down - left - right. The Eastern Orthodox do it a lot more often and not just at the beginning and the end of the prayer, but many, many times during their worship service. Most of them do it even when they are just passing in front of a church and they almost always do three in a row. Also, they do it up - down - right - left, sometimes even bowing while they do it. If you watch videos of an Orthodox liturgy, you'll see them making the sign of the cross all the time. Schindler was obviously a Catholic, he did it the Catholic way. Just once, very discretely and up - down - left - right.
Really appreciate you uploading this.. thank you and God bless you. Re 6:30 no, not a single Arab had their home taken or was evicted before the Arab Israel war (48). Any comparison between the Holocaust and the situation in Palestine is insulting and ignorant (not blaming you 🫶 many young people are ignorant of holocaust history sadly)
The swastika (Hakenkreuz, hook-cross) is an ancient symbol that survived in many cultures like Hinduism, Buddhism etc. The symbol is connected to so-called Aryan race, probably the invasive Yamnaya culture (probably "proto-indoeuropeans" linguisticaly). Nazi ideology stood on some twisted theological ideas rooted in Christianity but also infused with many occult ideas, rooted in theosofical movements of 19th century, and various religions of ancient time, to an extent you could even call it something like a "Death cult". Nazi Germany simply derived its origin from the Aryan race and adopted the Swastika symbol. But swastika resembling a cross doesn't mean it is a Christian symbol in origin, it is not. The whole idea is wacky, historically distorted in narration and even Semitic races share same origins to an extent, so it is not only evil but also idiotic. And usage of swastika in eastern cultures is unrelated to German Nazi ideology.
The Nazis hated Christianity just as much as they hated the jews. There was nothing Christian about what they did. Not even a little bit. In fact the only one into all of the occult crap was Himmler. Hitler thought it was a waste of time and ridiculous. He had no time for religion of any kind.
The nazi ideology has nothing to do with christendom. It was at first a distinctively secular ideology overall. Matter of fact is tho that about 95%of germans were nominally christian at the time. This is why the nazis did utilize anti-semitic sentiment in parts of christianity to scapegoat and "other" jews. They used religion as a tool in their rethoric to sow division and gather public support. But it never was part of their ideology. At the same time Hitler viewed the chruches as contrarian and a long term threat to his ideology - in the later stages of nazi rule they tried to introduce a pesudo-religious cult around their ideology. Based on a weird cocktail of norse mythology and naziism. Ofc this didnt work out and even back in the day only a hand full of people actually ditched their religion in favour for this cooked up cult. Mainly in the SS. But it was planned to phase out all religions after the war with this new cult. So that there would be no systematic rivals to nazi ideology.
It actually may be the first complex symbol humanity ever came up with. Supposedly it’s on some cave paintings. There’s a theory that it’s based on patterns inside mammoth tusks and may have originally been a symbol for food.
There is a book called Auschwitz. This movie doesnt show even close how horrible it was. One thing I remember from the book is that soldiers all around the world were asked why they killed and tortured humans and did such horrible things. Most of them said because we had to follow orders or if we didnt do it we were killed aswell. The germans said we did it because we hated them. They were proud and there heart were full of evil
I loved this reaction. I'm 55 and saw this when it first came out. I bawled my eyes out at the scene with the girl in the red coat. I'm from the UK. My Grandfather escaped from Poland before the Nazi invasion, and fought at Monte Cassino. He was one of the first into the ruins of the monastery. My Great Uncle was a political prisoner in Auswitz (Oswiechem) and was liberated at the end of the war, and escaped the Russian oppression in Eastern Poland. They married my Grandmother and Great Aunt, who were sisters, because we had a refugee camp, literally on our doorstep at Hardwick Hall in Derbyshire UK. Thanks for reaching to this. I've followed you for a long while now, but never got a notification of this when you first reacted. The World is in chaos right now. Humanity seems to have disappeared. All I want is peace and safety for my kids and Grand children. Every religion or race or persuasion would agree. Unfortunately we have corrupt politicians and religious extremists. It's so sad.and depressing. Unfortunately, people like Orwell, Alinsky, etc. Were right decades ago.😢
The Nazis did not target Muslims specifially. There were even several muslim SS divisions. The Nazis saw Muslims as useful allies in the fight against the British Empire. The Nazis hoped that Muslims would rise up in the Britsh colonies and cause the Brtish as much trouble as possible. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, even met Hitler in 1942 to ask for his support for Arab independence from Britain and France and made all kind of propaganda appearances for the Nazis. The Nazis also supported an anti British coup in Iraq in 1942 and gave weapons and aircraft to the pro German faction in Iraq. However, the British quickly re-established their control over Iraq.The leader of the SS, Heinrich Himmer, was very much into warrior cultures like the Vikings etc. and he saw similarities between old germanic myths and Islam who he saw as useful for a nation of warriors.
i absolutely love your channel. reminds me of when i was in school and everybody thought i was muslim and i became good friends with alot of islamic people, even tho im native american
A dark terrible time in German + world history . But this movie shows that some Germans worked in the grey areas of government rules to provide a small degree of hope and compassion to the persecuted jewish peoples . Another good movie to review ( also based on true events ) is VALKYRIE .
I love to read books. On this subject I recommend "Crucible of Terror" by Max Liebster. It is a short read, but very interesting. It is written by a Jewish man, and it is about his stay in the concentration camps, and how he was helped by Christians who were also locked up but because they were conscientious objectors. He eventually became a Christian. Another interesting read along the same type of tragedy, "No Greater Love" by Tharcisse Seminega. This is about a man and his family surviving the slaughter of the Tutsi tribe by the Hutu tribe in Rwanda, both sides being Christian. I think it is important to see what was wrong in the past to know not to repeat the same mistakes. "And over all these virtues put on love, which is the bond of perfect unity." (Colossians 3: 14)
Palestine is not a country, it is a geographical region consisting of many different people now and throughout history. Before it was called Palestine it was known as Judea.
Id love to see a movie such as this about the Balfour Declaration and how the Middle East was divided up to establish Israel. Not trying to start a argument but man I am curious how that would be perceived.
@@Marcus-p5i5s The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British Government in 1917 during the First World War announcing its support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population. This is what I am referring to. Try not to split hairs so much...life is easier that way.
Interesting fact: I read an article a few years ago where a woman who had watched the movie recognized herself. She was the little girl in the red dress. She had actually survived the war. ❤
A bit of history. Polish troops fought with Germany and Russia (they attacked on September 17, 1939) from September 1 to October 6, 1939. Oskar Schindler undertook a dangerous undertaking. As a German, he was threatened with guillotining for helping Jews. Literally . Occupied Poland was the only country occupied by the Germans where any assistance to Jews was punishable by immediate death. It doesn't matter if you were a woman, a man or a child. For giving you even a cup of water or even a rotten vegetable or fruit, the Germans had the right to kill you on sight. The Germans burned entire villages because of this. Despite this, most of those who saved and hid Jews were Poles.
Ukraines military participated in the slaughters of over 6 million Jews, minorities during the Holocaust, Ukraine continues having a massive Neo-Nazi presence and large groups of Ukrainian Neo Nazis meet to celebrate their insane ideology aka hatred of Jewish persons, support inciting violence towards Jews and the genocide of Jews, not to mention under two different Democrat administrations, Operation Overcast later called Operation Paperclip was started and made it possible for Mazi scientists, doctors, soldiers etc trying to escape accountability for their heinously sinister acts during the Holocaust, to come into the US, have their records, names etc wiped clean and were given jobs in the US government, creating nuclear weapons etc which allowed their families to also live, go to school and work in the US, as US citizens were none the wiser yet even today under the current administration, which has given over 400 billion dollars to Ukraine, one of the most corrupted countries in the world, despite being well aware of their past, present very antisemitic ideology and hatred for Jews and right before the barbarically sickening acts of Hamas against innocent Israeli babies, children, pregnant women and their unborn babies etc Biden had funneled over 232 million dollars to Palestinian/Gazan leaders and organizations that openly, blatantly, fund, harbor, support Hamas terrorists and shelled out another 32 million 30 days before the unwarranted murders against Israelis committed by Hamas which I strongly believe was payment in advance for Hamas to commit such vile as acts that would incite a war from Israeli leaders because funding for Ukraine, an insane amounts of funds Biden and his administration have been funneling back and forth, was coming to an end so another war needed to be orchestrated.
There's a video on YT called The Fallen of World War II that breaks down both the military and civilian deaths and casualties of WWII, which was in the tens of millions, many say as many as a couple hundred million, and when you consider the mass murders that were still taking place after the end of the war it's not hard to believe it's even higher than that. It's difficult to conceive of the numbers that are being talked about and the guy who made the video, Neil Halloran, did an excellent job of laying it out visually in graphs and charts. It's a highly impactful video.
I hope they watch this. I teach high school history and show this to my students every year. It still blows my mind every time I watch it, and it really opens the students’ eyes.
the woman in bed with Amon is his mistress, she gave birth to his daughter a few months before he died, he never met his daughter, but she grew up believing her dad was a war hero. the mistress loved him until her dying day in the 80s. it wasn't until she saw Schindler's List that she learned the truth about her father. years later, the daughter's daughter. amon's granddaughter, saw a book about schindler (presumabily the one this movie is based on) and saw Amon's name. and when she read the book, is when she learned who her grandfather truly was. she wrote a book about the experience called ''my grandfather would of shot me'', she also wanted to know more so she saw this movie and was horrified. the reason she says that she would of been shot is because she herself is half african, her dad is nigerian, her mother is german white. so amon would in fact not approve of his grandaughter being mixed race. im pretty sure christoph waltz said that he based part of his performance on ralph's amon here.
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all united by Abraham. In a way, we're a trio. But all religions are equal and nobody should have to suffer because of their beliefs.
@@moon-moth1 Wrong on all counts. Islam may say that they worship the same god, but Allah is not the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, closer to being polar opposites. There are tons of evidence that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob does exist, have you ever looked for any?
@@bigboineptune9567 Blessings bigboineptune, It is true that many don't, BUT... There are somewhere between 700,000 to a million Messianic Jews who DO believe in Yeshua/Jesus (these are part of the "one new man"). Secondly, many Jews still believe in God, but they missed that particular aspect of God. They still worship the true God, but not His entirety (Abba Father, Yeshua/Jesus and Ruach ha Kodesh/Holy Spirit). It would be like saying all the Cessationist no longer worship the true God. Many of them DO worship the true God, but are messed up on attributes of Holy Spirit. Take for instance John MacArthur, I think he is doing tremendous damage to the Kingdom, but I do believe he is worshipping many aspects of the True God. There are many things I admire about him (like keeping his church open during the virus), but he is bringing great strife among the body of Christ.
at 19:34 it's worse than the allies 'leaving' poland, the Russians (who would later join Britain and France in the allies in 1941) actually invaded poland with Germany and split north eastern europe between them as they had just signed a friendship treaty. France tried to do a little offensive into germany to distract the germans but quickly pulleed back
Did you know that Steven Spielberg submitted *this movie* to meet his ‘student film’ requirement, for his degree- after a 33 year hiatus- because it was made more as a passion project for him, than anything else. It then proceeded to win *two* Oscars.
Hitler and his view on Religion is complicated. He liked to show himself as christian to the german public, he himself often in his speeches called upon "Providence" or "divine Providence" and he had no great view of Christianity, saying it was a "meek and feeble" Religion. They did make a thing called "positive christianity" which denied that Jesus was jewish but had "aryan blood" from his aramaic (?) ancestors. Mein Kampf (1924-25), written while Hitler was in prison after his failed 1923 putsch, contains numerous references to "God", "the Creator", "Providence" and "the Lord". Hitler actually met with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and wished to win the Muslims of the Middle East as allies against the british, there was even an SS Division recruited from bosnian Muslims, they gave them propaganda leaflets quoting certain hadith to agitate them against Jews. Another interesting fact is that the Waffen-SS soldiers were encouraged to leave the church and identify themselves as "Gottgläubig" "Believing in God". Against popular belief, Hitler did NOT want to restore the old germanic pagan Gods as a form of religion. Also, Hitler viewed atheists as uneducated, and atheism as the state of the animals. He associated atheism with Bolshevism, communism, and "Jewish materialism". And hier a Quote from Wikipedia that i found quite interesting: During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the invasion of Gaul. According to Albert Speer, Hitler wished that the Caliphate had won the Battle of Tours against the Franks in 732: "The Mohammedan religion would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[218] "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers - already, you see, the world had fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing was Christianity! - then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies heroism and which opens the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so."[219] According to Speer, Hitler believed that if Islam had taken root in central Europe, the Germanic people would have become the "heirs of that religion" and would have "stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire" as Islam, according to him suited the Germanic temperament.[218] Despite Hitler's apparent admiration for Islam and Muhammad,[220] and his willingness to work with Arab political leaders, he viewed Arab people as racial and social inferiors. From the leader of the Waffen-SS, Heinrich Himmler is said that he insisted on the existence of a creator God, who favoured and guided the Third Reich and the German nation, as he announced to the SS: "We believe in a God Almighty who stands above us; he has created the Earth, the Fatherland, and the Volk, and he has sent us the Führer. Any human being who does not believe in God should be considered arrogant, megalomaniacal, and stupid and thus not suited for the SS." He did not allow atheists into the SS, arguing that their "refusal to acknowledge higher powers" would be a "potential source of indiscipline". Himmler was not particularly concerned by the question how to label this higher power; God Almighty, the Ancient One, Destiny, "Waralda", Nature, etc. were all acceptable, as long as they referred to some "higher power that had created this world and endowed it with the laws of struggle and selection that guaranteed the continued existence of nature and the natural order of things."
I saw this in the Theater when it came out. I was so drain of energy when it was finally over, I could hardly walk out of the Theater. Think I stayed depressed for a week. I was purposely filmed in black and white, so we would feel the dept of the movie
The man @32:48, Amon Goeth, was actually worse in real life (yes, he existed, and he was far more evil), they had to tone him down because the director didn't believe that an audience would believe how bad he truly was. The actor playing him was shown to the actual survivors, and they all thought it was the man reborn, he was soo close in mannerism and appearance. @34:04 Yes, the regular German soldiers were by and large conscripts, but the SS (you can see the double lightning bolts on their collars) HAVE to be members of the Nazi Party, and were responsible for a large amount of atrocities because they were a "private army" for Hitler himself essentially. Hating Jews this much was Nazi Party policy; It was a big part of why they were elected. Yes they were elected. The act of placing visitation stones is significant in Jewish bereavement practices. Small stones are placed by people who visit Jewish graves in an act of remembrance or respect for the deceased. The practice is a way of participating in the mitzvah of burial.
"Whoever saves one life, saves the world entirely". I think almost every sacred book and or spoken language has this quote in some form, but still "representatives" of those moral values ignore it. Dosent mean that common people should, in my opinion. "Don't stare at your neighbors grain of sand in the eye while ignoring the pole in yours" is one of my favourite quote, that probably have a correspondant in every language. I live by it.
Not gonna lie, the more I watch of you guys the more I know how much they don't teach in other places, like yeah the American school system isn't that good, but they try teach all world history at least lol. Also I still learned way more on my own though so that still says alot. My parents were also cultured so that helps.
Mila Pfefferberg (the woman that refused to go into the sewers) married the man (that's the wedding we saw) that told the author of the book this is based on his story. Mila, was on set and saw Ralph Fiennes in his nazi uniform as Amon Goth (it's pronounced Gert) and she started shaking uncontrollably because he looked so much like Amon.
Awesome reaction! Found you guys down A rabbit hole of folks who do not know either the holocaust \Schindler or both. This was A very refreshing react to watch... Thank you for spending the time!!
In answer to your question: no, the Nazis were not Christian, they denounced religion as a whole except of course their own strange quasi-occult Aryan beliefs, but they mostly would be considered atheist/non-religious As for the stones on the grave, it’s a Jewish custom to place a small stone on the grave marker of a loved one when you visit it, and you’re correct, it’s a sign of love and respect
"Nazi Germany was an overwhelmingly Christian nation. A census in May 1939, six years into the Nazi era[1] after the annexation of Austria and Czechoslovakia[2] into Germany, indicates[3] that 54% of the population considered itself Protestant, 41% considered itself Catholic, 3.5% self-identified as Gottgläubig[4] (lit. "believing in God"),[5] and 1.5% as "atheist".[4] "
This is not true. The Nazis were Christian. Hitler laid it out very clearly in Mein Kampf that his entire ideology was deeply rooted in the belief he was doing God's work. They instituted prayer in schools and signed a concordat with the Vatican. The phrase 'God is with Us' was inscribed on the SS belt buckles. Anything you hear differently is post war propaganda, created (mostly) by American Evangelical Christians to try and distance their religion from the Nazis. "Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith" - AH "We believe in a God Almighty who stands above us; he has created the earth, the Fatherland, and the Volk, and he has sent us the Führer. Any human being who does not believe in God should be considered arrogant, megalomaniacal, and stupid and thus not suited for the SS. As National Socialists, we believe in a Godly worldview." - Himler Indeed, one of the warning signs of rising fascism enshrined in the US Holocaust museum in DC is intertwining of government and religion.
This is not correct - the nazi's relationship with Christianity is complicated and self-contradictory, but it is not true to say that most of them were atheist or irreligious. Hitler made pronouncements about Christianity privately and publically both negative and positive. Sometimes he engaged in anti-clerical rants, saying that he'd rid Germany of the Church after he'd rid it of Jewish people - sometimes he positioned himself as the defender of Christendom from atheistic communism. Plenty of high-ranking nazis were active Christians. Anti-semitism within Christianity has a long history, and some nazis engaged in anti-semitism due to their Christian beliefs, just as some Christians resisted the nazis due to their Christian beliefs. The occult stuff was something a minority of nazis dabbled in, it was not mainstream at all.
@@arielabril1981 they denounced the church and Christianity as weak and useless to the Nazi goal, they tolerated churches that added Nazi propaganda to their doctrine
Some scenes were not shot at all. Goeths crimes were so cruel, monstrous, sadistic, and inhumane that the producers thought the viewers might perceive them as constructed only for the film, thus damaging the whole work. Goeth often rode through the death camp, and when he wore a simple cap, the camp inmates could be reasonably sure that nothing would happen. However, when he wore his officer's cap and white gloves, the inmates were in absolute danger of death. One, in his eyes wrong look or a wrong greeting was enough and he began to murder without restraint, after he had tortured his victims before in indescribable sadistic way. By the way, the gravestones seen in the last shot were laid as paving stones on the road to the entrance of the Auschwitz extermination camp. I am German and the so-called "German culture of remembrance" is a matter of course in our country. Every day, for example, there are documentaries on at least two channels which show among other things the background of how Hitler was able to lever out parliament to come to power, the crimes of the GESTAPO (Secret state police) in their torture cellars, the deportation of the Jews, underlaid with original images from the concentration camps, the cruelest war crimes of the SS, which followed the Wehrmacht on the campaign and then brought unimaginable suffering to the rest of the population, which was also filmed at the time. Some already in color, which makes the whole thing seem even more bizarre. Trenches, on the edges of which Jews were killed by the hundreds with shots to the neck, etc. There are also "Stepstones". Small memorial plaques laid in the ground, so-called Stolpersteine, are intended to commemorate the fate of people who were persecuted, murdered, deported, expelled or driven to suicide during the National Socialist era. The square brass plaques with rounded corners and edges are inscribed with letters hammered in by hand using a hammer and hammer letters, showing e.g. who was deported in that house. They are usually set into the sidewalk or surface of the respective sidewalk at the same level in front of the last freely chosen homes of Nazi victims. On December 29, 2019 the 75,000th Stepstone was laid in Memmingen. In the German extermination camps, the women and children were gassed first, so that no more Jews could be born and grow up. Word had long since spread among the Jews that these gas chambers existed and when they arrived in Auschwitz, they also knew what the smoking chimneys meant. They knew exactly what to expect when they were led into such a chamber and, as shown in the movie, waited in mortal fear for the gas. The fact that water actually came out of the taps was one of the perfidious psychological torture methods used by the Nazis. It is always unbelievable what deviant fantasies people develop in order to torture other people! Very few Germans wanted to have known about the concentration camps, which of course was complete nonsense. For example, thousands of apartments were suddenly vacant because the Jewish residents had been deported during the night. The very next day, "Aryan" Germans, mostly belonging to the party cadre, moved in. Then hundreds of civilian German guards were employed in the death camps, who were even proud of their "work" and bragged about it to their acquaintances and friends. I could give many more examples, which prove that it was total bullshit, when it was claimed not to have seen anything and not to know what was happening there. In any case, I am a little proud of the fact that in Germany, even more than 75 years after the war, these unimaginable crimes against humanity have been and are being dealt with.
Most Germans were still Christians under the third Reich, but the Nazi ideology was more rooted in paganism and a romanticized view of pre-christian germanic people. They saw the world as a jungle in which only the most ruthless survive and hence saw Christianity as a weak ideology. But aside from this big mess of Ancient/medieval aesthetic put forth by the Nazi party, they remained nonetheless pretty much christians.
Thank you so much for watching this movie and sharing your reactions, brothers. I cried many times during it myself, especially for the children. I hate hatred. I want peace between our people and no more killing.
Hey Habibi Brothers, such a great reaction. I'm following you channel for quite sometime, since i saw your reaction on the fellowship of the ring (still waiting for the return of the king btw). Just came to say thank you for this beautiful reaction, every single time the "i could do more" scene gets me to tear up. I think the contents of this movie can make quite a controversial topic on this channel and i came just to give some gratitude for the content you guys provide. For all the ones who are polemicizing this video: Please, realize that others will have a different view from yours, different reasons and even different basis to wich they argüe. I miself have my pont of view, as does everybody else and see different points of views can be illuminating if you aren't close minded. Oh, and on the first crusade there was at least one crusader army that thought Jerusalem was too far away and it was best to sack Europe and kill jews, they were closer. To their credit plenty of christians priests and bishops died with a sword in their hands to defend the innocent jews who were being slaughtered and seeked haven in churches and catedrals. Sorry for my poor english and any mistakes made Obrigado, from Brazil.
The person laying the flower on Schindler's grave was Liam Neeson. Just like every actor accompanied the real person to the grave, Neeson went there by himself
Loved this guys, its pretty interesting to see the different reactions of people from different cultures to good movies... suggestion: you guys should react to the scarlet and the black, it's set during the Nazi occupation of Italy, an Irish priest trafficked around 4000 allied POWs and Jewish refugees to allied territories... it's a fascinating game of wits between an SS commander and a priest, it's worth a look for sure. It's a true story aswell!
The girl with the red dress is actually from the memory of the actress Audrey Hepburn who, in her youth, worked with the Dutch resistance against the Nazis during WW2. She told Spielberg of an incident during World War II where she saw a little girl with the same attire while the other people were loaded onto trains.
Love your reactions and your individual personalities. This is such an important story and it was beautifully personified via film. It’s a raw, gruesome movie, but it simultaneously shows the light in the darkness. (And is tragically ironic considering the genocide in Palestine). All love from New Mexico Habibi Brothers!
Fun History: Abraham moves to Canaan & sets up town in 1816BCE next Pharaoh captures most Canaanites in 1450BCE next Pharaoh sends captured Peleset / Philistine Sea Peoples( Not Indigenous) to Gaza in 1150BCE next Released Canaanites/ Israelites from Pharaoh are told to capture Jebus ( other Canaanites) in 1003BCE and do next Ceasar Captures Judea in 135 BCE being very angry changes the name from Judea to the Philistine Territories next Yasser Arafat the KGB & Egypt create the PLO in 1964 for Arabs born in Canaan. Gaza was named by a Canaanite. The only DNA known Canaanites live in Lebanon. Home boys from Jericho City Built a Fort 10,000 years ago by the Creak.😎
At around 50 minutes you enquire about the state of the muslim population, the guy on the left is right ( pun not intended) in Europe muslims were also mistreated by the german state like as bad as ziganes etc. Outside it was different, many muslim leaders saw germany as an opportunity tobreak free from Britain and France and extended offers of friendship particularly when they saw how germany treated the jewish population ( resented since sykes-picot). Famously AH met with the mufti of jerusalem and made a joint declaration.
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I recommend The 13th Warrior - the main character is Muslim, I think you would enjoy it.
I just would like to comment on your assessment of Schindler throughout the film:
Maybe you got a bad idea of him from the very beginning since he's painted as a powerful, egomaniac and self-righteous man only working only for himself, which he was in the beginning, both, in the movie and in real life, but there were little hints at his future turn and how he got there.
Yes, he was a profiteer and exploitative businessman at the very beginning of the story, the same as in real life; he thought of the Jewish people very little but he also deep down despised the German Nazi officers occupying his city, he was just playing along to gain their trust and use them to his advantage. In the end it is shown how he grew and evolved to care about and feel more for all people and try to protect the Jewish he was initially dismissive and indifferent about.
He tried to be close to the top officers to keep his business working and to deviate attention from him. However, throughout the film he evolved into caring about the people and people's situations as well, not only business and numbers, as well as to learning how unjust, evil and despicable the Nazi mentality driven soldiers and officers were, so he grew a deep hate for them.
At the very beginning you were right, he wasn't working against them nor trying to be a "double agent" but he despised Nazis and was analyzing and observing them so he could be able to manipulate and get as many of them in his pocket, he was cold and calculating as the business man he was.
He was as opportunistic as possible to his advantage but started to feel guilty for using Jewish people as slave labor basically.
He intentionally got many people to work for him, more than he needed and sometimes people who weren't skilled in factory working, just to get them away from the Nazi regime's hold.
He started to not only think of them as people he could profit but as people who were struggling and suffering.
For example in the scene where the old one-armed worker goes to thank him, you're right on the assessment of him feeling guilty or growing uneasy about his conscience; he dismissed the worker for two reasons:
1. Keeping the appearances / facade of being a Nazi sympathizer, as to not arise any suspicions, if the rumours of him being nice to his workers spread.
2. Because he felt guilty about himself and didn't want to grow expressive and show how he really felt, he wasn't able to live with his consciousness.
When he sees the little girl is a sign of a turn or change in his mind by realizing how helpless and innocent these people were against the violent and repulsive nature of the Nazi soldiers and sympathizers who were hateful, violent, ruthless and horrible towards these helpless people.
You can see a turn in his eyes, in his demeanor from this point on and then tried to, with little gestures, help the Jewish little by little however he could.
By the end we have the full circle closure of his arc, which of course he went from being a selfish, egocentric man, to a selfless, altruistic and caring benefactor for the local Jewish community.
Schindler was struggling with his feelings and trying to disguise them all the time, at first to try to fool himself but later to fool others, because deep down he was a good man, a good person.
He used his power and status to help others, to give back to the community and the less fortunate, rather than himself or his close ones.
A couple more points: Amon Goerth was truly a terrible despicable person in real life, who enjoyed in people suffering and pain and his character was toned down from all the horrible, disgusting, terrible things he did in real life, that's really how he was. The fascist and Nazi sympathizers and brainwashed soldiers were either really sick or grew to have some really terrible disgusting mentalities.
A lot of this movie is grounded in real life, like how Goeth's gun got jammed and his subordinates', these were things that really happened and show how a lot fo times it was just fate and destiny that played a part in keeping these people alive and who were really helpless, at the mercy of their captors or luck and in contrast how important was the help of outsiders like Schindler who, prevented an otherwise catastrophic and tragic ending to a many more thousands of families.
Really something to think about, and reflect upon: doing the right thing, being conscious about the other and being caring and loving of people regardless of how dire the situation is, doing the right thing for the common good.
I really enjoyed your commentary and reaction, I hope you're doing great!
Another comment I forgot about: many of the same texts, poems verses and even books are found in the Qur'an, Torah and Bible, the Christian Bibles, which are all basically the same, are essentially the Torah, called the Old Testament, plus the New Testament.
That's why Islam, Judaism and Christianity are considered part of the same religion family, they have the same foundations, text and origin stories. However people prefer to see the differences and hate instead of seeing the similarities and unite over them.
He was a capitalist with a heart of gold. 😉
@@TheBloodyPointI was thinking the same thing. Amazing movie and based on a true story!
At the end of the film when you see people putting rocks on the grave of Schindler, the younger people are the actors in the film, and the older people are the real people those actors were portraying!
If only Japan was as honest about dealing with its past as Germany.
Any Muslim who wonders why so many Europeans won't criticize Israel should watch this movie. There are still a lot of bad memories lingering even after eighty years, and saying anything that might sound even a little bit like Nazi sympathizing is heavily taboo.
@@ayacachotinemi4974 Japan did horrible things and at the same actually saved Jews. Look up Chiune Sugihara.
@@ayacachotinemi4974 Let's be real, 99% of westerners have no clue what's going on in israel. Especially young people are pro-palestine because it's popular. It's just virtue signaling for clout
@@ayacachotinemi4974when I look at Germany I wonder wether they should have went with the Japanese route. As you said it's hard to say anything against Israel without being labeled a nazi. Especially in Germany or Austria
@@ayacachotinemi4974 😂😂😂who made this film ??????
The Jews sorting the suitcase contents weren't traitors. They were forced to do this work.
mind boggling the depths of human depravity.
@@jillk368 and they do the same to Palestine now . shame
@@SawsanYasen-nu5vo When have you seen Palestinians forced to sort through stolen luggage of other Palestinians sent to death camps?
@@SawsanYasen-nu5vo No, just no. Get your history right and don't talk such BS please. BTW, a German speaking here if that is from some kind of importance to you.
And yes, i know the answer...
@@bobabier5394 🤣🤣🤣what no ???every thing is clear,and the whole world know it
Shitty people come in all races and religions, just like amazing people come in all races and religions. Much love and respect, brothers.
Well said mate and very true as well.
Agreed. "Shitty people".......yep.
If everyone could think like this the world would be a better place
Religion killed more people than cigarettes did
This is untrue statistically.
Nazis weren't targeting Muslims; in fact, Hitler had quite an admiration for Islam. He even cooperated with them and had a Muslim SS unit in Bosnia. He was in contact with some prominent imams in the Middle East and hoped Muslims would help him drive the British from there.
The truth is a little more complicated than that. The Nazi's didn't target Muslims specifically just for being Muslims, that's true, and he spoke admirably privately and in public about his twisted idea of what Islam was, but he did target many Muslims for other reasons, such as race and minority status in the Nazi occupied territories. . An important thing to remember is that Hitler and the Nazi's borrowed (and built on) the idea of the superior Aryan race from the Iranians who also had a similar concept of Aryan superiority (Iran translates in Persian to "Land of the Aryans"). Hitler viewed Iranians as his natural allies because of what the Nazis believed was a common descent with the Germanic peoples and wanted to seduce them into joining the Axis powers, which never happened. Most of the Nazi propaganda concerning Islam was aimed at bringing Arab Nations in the Middle East to his side against the Allies (many of which were either current or former colonial overlords in those areas.) However, the Nazi's did not have the same regard for people, Muslims or otherwise, in North Africa, and the concentration camps there saw many Muslims put to death along with the Nazi regimes usual victims. Out of the over 10 Million civilians killed in the Holocaust an estimated 6+ Million were Jewish and they were by far the single most targeted group but the extermination of the Slavs, Roma peoples ("Gypsies") and many many more INCLUDING the Arab-Berbers of Algeria and neighboring North African countries were all targets for the "Final Solution." Being from Algeria, I imagine the Brothers have a very different perspective than Muslims from countries allied with Nazi Germany during WWII.
@@edmillan7427 Hitler didn't care that much about non-Jewish and non-gipsy populations outside of Europe; Berbers weren't targeted for the Final Solution; if they were targeted for something, it was non-compliance with the Vishy Administration in Algeria. I don't even think there was any systematic targeting by Germans at all in North Africa since the Algerian part was controlled by Vichy and the rest De jure by Italy, but that part was active front-line most of the time.
Muslims were surely affected by WW2, as were everyone else, but nobody was sent to concentration or extermination camps simply because they were Muslim or Arab.
@@edmillan7427 Hitler would have eventually targeted all non-Aryan races once his primary objectives were complete. He even considered Ukranians to be subhuman because they were Slavs.
@@edmillan7427and they also put Jehovah's witnesses in there & also homosexuals
True, but I think he just used them for selfish purposes. They probably would’ve been next. Na**s hated ALL 3 Abrahamic religions.
In Auschwitz, it was policy for prisoners to take regular showers (for "cleanliness") in order to create a routine so that prisoners would go into the showers quietly. Most of the time it was a regular shower, but when they needed to create room for more prisoners, they would turn on the gas instead of the water. You never knew if it was life or death. The soft-spoken Nazi who was asking the old woman's age was Dr. Mengele, who ran the medical experiments at Auschwitz. Prisoners were used as guinea pigs.
Thank you. I didn't know this, but I'm not surprised.
I never knew that was supposed to be Mengele. Wow, makes that scene so much more disturbing.
Not only that. Some transports were exterminated immediately. Auschwitz was not only a concentration camp but also an extermination camp like Treblinka.
Auschwitz had three large concentration camps and several small ones. The largest and most famous with the iconic train entrance and railway terminal was known as Birkenau. Two or three trains packed with prisoners arrived every day at Birkenau from 1942 to 1944. If fresh workers were needed at any of the town's camps, new arrivals were sorted into two groups - fit to work (strong healthy adults) and not fit to work (weak, sick, old and women with children). All of the latter and any surplus from the former were gassed before the next train arrived.
Not correct. The showering usually only occurred after arrival to camps, for the minority of Jews chosen to be worked to death.
One has to imagine..Spielberg was not able to show the full extent on how horrible the reality was , so what you see in the movie was just maybe 10 percent of the unimaginable horror that happened. And for me as German it is important to mention: Those were normal people that turned into monsters that did this..they did that, went home to their families for dinner played with their kids and returned the next day. Evil lurks behind the eyes of ordinary men and women so we must be ever watchful, because you dont see it like one would think..evil hides itself well until it might be too late
We got a taste of the that kind of behavior in 2020. Quite a wake up call.
So true…
„The evil“ is inside men. Not in some Movie-Monster…
That makes it even more disturbing.
And now in the US we are trying to ensure evil like this does not rise again through our elections this year. It does lurk in the shadows waiting for the right moment to reveal itself. We only had a taste of it in 2016....I believe this time, if we allow it, it will come full-flavored!
@@ravensdark99 yes,and the same people are oppressed by Nazis ,did the same horror to Palestinians now .shame
Government and media.make citizens do the craziest of things.
divide and concur
The Little girl in the red coat walks through the chaos like nothing else exists except for her to get to where she is going and Schindler is mezmorized by her obliviousness. Later when he sees she was executed with the others he is heart broken and becomes determined to help the Jews even more. He started out as a money hungry womanizing bastard but he ended up being a man with a big heart saving a great many lives.
Exactly what I always thought. That was the final straw on the camel's back, and that was the turning point in Schindler.
It's why she's on the movie poster. She was Schindler's final straw.
That child actress went on to help Ukrainian refugees in Poland by the way
You guys are going through the classics, I love it. This one is heart breaking.
China has 1 million Uyghur Muslims in concentration camps as we speak.
Cool
Those are re-education camps. CCP don't want dead Uyghurs, they want compliant, obedient peoples.
do you want to say something about millions and millions of people in cccp concentration camps for half century after usa sold eastern europe to communists in 45?
@@divacroft1034sold? We didn't want to fight another war. What, we're suddenly responsible for and required to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of lives, maybe millions, to free Eastern Europe?
The US did what it could, look at the Berlin airlift, they spent a lot of money doing the best they could in the situation.
How you equate that with China 80 years later putting Uyghurs in concentration camps is beyond me, or any other rational person.
@@Alex-dh2cx you peasants signed the paper = all suffering on your hands...satan stalin even smiling in pictures hpw dumb usa and uk was to give him half europe without even a fight and tens of millions sent to concentration camps...if we knew you gonna sell us out for half century of slavery we would have helped germany to win the war.
A timeless masterpiece. I've been to Auschwitz, the concentration camp is still there and I fainted two times. You can breath the death still today, after 80 years.
The actor Ralph Fiennes, who plays Amon Goeth, is a very nice person in real life, and said this was the hardest role he has ever made.
I tell people that after visiting Dachau several times when stationed in Germany. You can smell it. The death just permeates the place.
We took a school trip to Auschwitz when I lived in Germany. I cannot forget the smell. We didn't talk for 3 days after we returned. It was a great experience though....it will whip any racist thoughts out of your head real quick. I do think that everyone should see it in person.
This movie is stunning and moving and terrifying. I think most people only watch it one time.
@@rhiahlMT I remember that school visit there over 30 years ago and knowing the barracks were not original didn't help.
As you said, death permeates the place.
@@Dreamfox-df6bg Where I was stationed (Augsburg) the library and craft center housed concentration camp victims. I rarely went over there.
Got a little shaky with the political commentary at the end, getting defensive and asking "what about Muslims?"
But it's a challenging film.
Germany was a majority Christian nation, but the leadership of the Nazi party was religiously Gnostic. Basically a strange combination of eastern mysticism, occult/esoteric religion, and ancient Germanic paganism.
Hitler was Catholic, mein kampfe is him literally talking about being gods right hand
But he focused less and less on Catholic principles after he got supreme power
That group you mentioned was headed by Himmler and inner circle members
Great comment , true.
Hm, well, no, not really. The Nazi leaders (and the SS) saw the Christian religion as a product of Jews (which is correct), and they despised/hated everything that had to do with the Jewish religion. But most of the germans still were christians and had very strong believes, the Nazis would have lost every backup by the public, if they tried to get rid of Christianity. That's why the tried everything to get both christian churches in Germany to acknowledge their politics.
Hitler and his guys mostly were socialists (kind of) and had no faith in any God whatsoever. They admired (and used) some religions as a tool to controle people and make them do what they wanted.
Only Himmler and his SS held that neo-germanic paganism worth to be a quasi-religion for them with Himmler being a firm admirer and reader of germanic-hero-stories of the early 1900s with no base in any actual historical accurate background stories.
Catholic. Not Christian. Important difference.
@@mattwerdell7151 Catholicism is one of the main branches of Christianity...the others being Protestantism and Eastern Orthodox. I'm not sure why that different is important lol.
I've watched several videos recently of young people learning about WWII for the first time. It's very upsetting to know that as the events of WWII pass from living memory, meaning those who experienced it firsrt hand are almost gone from this earth, it's also beginning to pass from our collective memory. Even more upsetting is seeing how many people across the world are not just ready, willing, and able, but also eager to bring back the kinds of attitudes and practices that precipitated the rise of fascism in Germany. People of good conscience need to be aware because this kind of monstrous, appalling thing should never, ever happen again. Peace to all. 💗🖖🏽
I am 16 and me and my friends all offer free tutoring at my old school which gives me a pretty good idea of how much high school age kids know about history. It seems to me like people my age generally know the very basics of WW2 but not anything past that. I don't think it's our fault I think it has a lot to do with how history is taught. People often say the reason we should learn history is so that we don't repeat the same mistakes but in practice we are just forced to memorize a bunch of trivia without ever diving deeper. Our classes should involve asking questions like "why did everyday Germans allow the Holocaust to happen" This would lead to an exploration and discussion on the dynamics of prejudice, propaganda, the bystander effect, indoctrination, coercion and how it relates to authoritarianism. I love history but learning the date Dan mcdoodle signed some random treaty and only retaining it for just long enough to take a test and then probably forgetting it is completely useless. It also leads to such a shallow understanding of what the underlying topics which makes people so easy to manipulate.
In Poland, WWII was very important, we learn about it almost every year at school, we watch films, talk to insurgents and people who survived the war, etc.
It's so bad that now even the Jews themselves have fallen into fascism and are committing genocide.
@@corbinlittle4746 May I ask what country you are from? Because our history classes in Germany used to do just that. Ask how it was possible, what contributed to it etc. We were only made to memorize very few dates. So if you have questions in this regard ask away. There is also a great source "Zeitzeugenportal" here on TH-cam. It is eyewitness accounts of people who lived through that times. I think the new translation features will make this more available for English-speakers.
@@angelagraves865 and that what exactly happened in Palestine now .
There were very few blacks or Muslims in Europe in the 1940s. The majority of those murdered by the Nazis were Jews, Slavs, Gypsies & anyone in the occupied countries who resisted. Hitler reportedly thought of Islam as a martial 'race' and the Nazis courted the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem & supported an uprising in Iraq. Himmler, the head of the SS, raised a Bosnian Muslim SS Division to fight the Yugoslav Partisans (the 13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar) which was visited by the mentioned Grand Mufti. As you can imagine, there were Arabs who were sympathetic to the Nazis persecution of the Jews (The enemy of my enemy is my friend).
You may enjoy a French film called Days of Glory (cheesy title) about North African troops fighting for the Free French in Italy & Germany. I think they were from Morocco. It came out in 2006.
There were and still are quite a few Muslims in the Balkans. Kosovo, Albania, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro and others. These areas were controlled by the Ottoman Empire for centuries. Many sided with the Nazis because the Nazis were fighting France and Great Britain, and both had a terrible history in the Middle East after WWI when they split up the former Ottoman Empire lands there. (Sykes-Picot Agreement).
You need to do some more research 😂😂😂😂😂
True there weren't many black people at that time, but Hitler hated them and mixed race people enough to have the sterilized. He also went after Germans like Jehovah's Witnesses who refused to deny their beliefs just to save their own lives. When you add the mentally and physically disabled people, it's a wonder he didn't try to kill everyone but himself.
@@KentuckyBrad White men just doing white men stuff right?
Like they did in America for *hundreds* of years.
@@KentuckyBrad Could you elaborate? What have I said that is incorrect?
after all that happened in the last year, it's really nice and refreshing seeing two religious muslims really open, empathic, and not hatefull towards jews/jewish history
Your perspective on this movie was very interesting. Thank you for this reaction. As a German let me explain a few scenes: most importantly I think the scene where they were sent into the showers in Auschwitz. There were actual showers but there where also rooms that were made to look like showers. They gave the people soap and told them to tag their belongings when they got undressed so that they would believe they were only sent into a shower. It is much easier to handle a crowd and make them go into a gas chamber that way. Because this is what those look alike showers were. They got gassed, their gold teeth got pulled afterwards and then the bodies would get burned - which made it rain ashes all around the camps. They used the hair to make blankets and other "goods". When people arrived in the camps they were sorted. Those who still were healthy enough were send to the Auschwitz working camp as slave labour. All others were killed immediatly by gassing. Those in the working camps often died of diseases, starvation or were send to the gas chambers when they were no longer able to work. In some camps cannibalism started because people were starving. They made inmates do the dirty work of working in the gas chambers and getting rid of the bodies as well.
About the ideology: It was not a religious belief that made people do this. This was based on a race theory. In the nazis eyes anyone who was not Aryan was a lesser human species, sometimes not better than cattle in their eyes. There was some kind of scale to this. Eastern Europeans were not Aryan but better than Jewish people or Turks were better than Arabs and so on. Don`t ask me about the logic behind it because there is none. And people believed that. So people could be Nazis and call themselves Christian although it is against the religion to commit such atrocities. In their eyes it was no conflict because they believed those other people to be lesser humans.
your delight when you realized the engraving in the ring is also a quote from the Koran really got me. Our religions no matter if Jewish, Christian or Muslim all share some of the same books. How on earth is it possible that today after all that happened in this war and after all the "never agains" we are here today with all those conflicts flaring up. And that history repeats itself? No common people, no human being wants wars and hatred and misery. And yet all this bullshit happens today. I will never understand it.
About the Jews in Europe: they literally had no place to go. There were GErmans or Poles or from any other nation in Europe. But would you like to keep living in a country were people did such crimes as you saw here to you? when you had to live in fear for a decade and most if not all of your family and friends got murdered and the murderers still roamed free and often did not get punished? Where all cities laid in ruins? No nations really had an answer on what to do with the surviviors. So that problem got dumped to another region.
As horrific as this is, we can’t forget that at the same time Japan was doing just as many truly evil things. Things you can’t even begin to imagine.
Competitions where they were catching Chinese babies on their bayonets.
the experimentation the japanese conducted on allied prisoners is horrifying to read about... surgeries without anesthesia, amputations of limbs and replacing them with limbs of others, locking prisoners in boxes with no water/food until they died. and, of course, the mass rapes of women when they invaded china. and apparently this history is not taught in japan and current generations have no idea of the crimes they committed.
Why don't you let each tragedy have its place?
"As bad as this tragedy is". This movie is not about the Japanese. There's other movies about the Japanese. Should we write on a movie about the Rape of Nanjing, "as bad as this tragedy was, let's not forget 6 million Jews were subject to horrors beyond human comprehension in the holocaust by the Germans."?
Why don't you bring up the thousands of Italians murdered and raped by the French Expeditionary Corps. Or the Gegenmiao massacre committed by the Russians? Or the Communist purges in Serbia in 1944-45, Or the hundreds of thousands of Chinese dead just from the conscription methods of the Chinese Nationalist Forces, or the Rapes of thousands of Okinawan women by US forces? Or the 18 million people sent to the Gulag by Stalin's government?
I hate when people that try to take the focus on a specific tragedy away or compare genocides, as if they could possibly be worse for the people involved, on any scale.
@@tor4472chill daddy
This is true, under Japanese occupation
Over 6 million Koreans, Cambodians, Burmese, and etc were murdered alone
That's not counting the pows and slave forces used by the Japanese to build the Burmese railroad which was one large death March
Still, that was not a systematic process like the concentration camps
That was imperialist rule
The Nazis are the only group in history to industrialize extermination like they were making motors in a factory
At the end, the real people from the list walked beside the actors that played them.
As an American Christian I can't get over how similar Jews and Muslims are in their beliefs yet have this seemingly never ending struggle. I wish nothing but the best for everyone and it's sad to see almost all wars are still based off religious differences.
They're branches of the same religion; they have the same origin. All three (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) come from the same teachings.
Jews and Arabs are semites. Get your head around that if you can!
Actually the 3 Abrahamic religions have more things in common than they do different but they have been killing each other for millennia
It mostly stems from world war II after the war the United Nations took part of Palestine and made it into Israel that we know today
Pardon the length of the reply, it's just that I often hear, especially from atheists/skeptics etc that religion is and has been the primary cause of wars. So I would like to respond to that claim.... the majority of the following comes from a book called "The Irrational Atheist" by Vox Day, his book is available online for free as a pdf, it is heavily footnoted to support the statistics. Se page 219 in the pdf for the chart as seen below.
Actually, almost all wars were not based on religious differences, though of course there were some wars that involved people of religious differences. The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined. According to the 3 volume Encyclopedia of War there are 121 entries listed under “religious wars”, one of the entries deals with two wars, so a revised figure would be 122 wars, or only 6.9% of the wars considered by Phillips and Axelrod's Encyclopedia of War.
The greatest culprits in human history in terms of war and especially the causalities that resulted from their totalitarian regimes, were atheists. Secular (atheistic) totalitarianism is “the summa of human evil.” It seems no one really cares why atheists kill innocent people en masse. People are primarily concerned with the undeniable fact that atheists do it with such an astonishing degree of regularity on the rare occasions that they find themselves in a position to do so.
Below you can see the number of deaths and the worldview or ideology behind those deaths. Schwinn bicycles are included as a way to show a comparison of how many died as a result of riding bicycles as compared to everything else.
Historical Event Responsible Dates Total Deaths Deaths per year
Great Leap Forward atheists 1958-1963 43,000,000 8,600,000
Holodomor atheists 1932-1933 3,500,000 1,750,000
Holocaust pagan theists 1941-1945 6,000,000 1,500,000
Spanish Red Terror atheists 1936-1939 72,344 24,114
Children’s Bicycles Schwinn 1920-2007 11,310 130
Spanish Inquisition Christian theists 1481-1834 3,230 9
Medieval Inquisitions Christian theists 1184-1500 2,000 6
Portuguese Inquisition Christian theists 1540-1794 1,175 5
**** IMHO its overly generous to consider Hitler's Nazism as "pagan theism". In reality, Hitler espoused Monism; which is a philosophical worldview that posits the existence of a single, fundamental substance or principle as the ground of reality. Hitler's relationship to religion as one of opportunism and pragmatism: "his relationship in public to Christianity - indeed his relationship to religion in general - was opportunistic. There is no evidence that Hitler himself, in his personal life, ever expressed any individual belief in the basic tenets of the Christian church". Hitler stated, "We do not want any other god than Germany itself. It is essential to have fanatical faith and hope and love in and for Germany."
Keep in mind that for Hitler, the "Final Solution" would eventually include the elimination of Christianity every bit as much as it included the elimination of the the Jews.
Oskar couldn't let people think that the factory was saving people. It had to be strictly business or the Grrmans would have shut him down and probably killed him. He couldn't afford to have rumors of it being a haven.
IN high school in the early 1980's I knew a girl who was being raised by her grandmother, who happened to be a Jewish Holocaust survivor. she was a great lady.
i am so pleased you watched this film. thank you.
a fact, when filming this film, spielberg called robin williams to do some comedy show for the actors and all who were working to do this film, due to it was a depressing for all of them
I never knew that about Robin Williams, bless his beautiful heart ❤
In Oskar's factory, when he was like "It is Friday, isn't it?" He wasn't giving the man the day off, he was telling him to go celebrate the Sabbath (which had been made illegal elsewhere, but he was recognizing their humanity by allowing them to observe their religious feast and prayers anyway). Thats why nothing bad happened even though the whole factory could hear him singing the prayer.
They gave them soap so they'd think they were really having a shower. That kept things orderly. No rioting, etc
Over 20 years since I first saw this movie I haven’t forgotten that little boy in the toilet it’s the first thing that comes to my head after all these years.
A MOVIE THAT SHOULD NOT EVER BE FORGOTTON, IN THIS LIFETIME, OR ANY FUTURE LIFETIME.
33:12 "Thank god they lost" I feel that in my bones.
We all worship the God of Abraham, too bad people can't understand that. Pointless fighting each other when we are all cousins worshipping, Allah, Jesus, Jehovah, we are not enemies, but friends.
Unfortunately, you are wrong on one point: the Nazis did not treat Muslims like Jews. On the contrary, Muslims were allies of the Nazis because of their hatred of Jews. Even the SS had two divisions made up entirely of Muslims. The Nazis didn't like it, but they were needed.
There were some exceptions. The Great Mosque of Paris helped hide Jews and kept them safe.
Actually they did target Muslims in occupied territories
For birth defects, racial make up
They allied themselves with certain Muslim groups and nations but they did target Muslims in Europe and Africa
Worth pointing out there wasn't a significant Muslim population in Germany at the time so they were not in a position to be painted as undesirables like the Jews, gays, Romani, communists and disabled people a German would encounter on a regular basis. Now that there is a significant Muslim population in Europe, the present far-right racists have turned their hate toward them.
They didn't do it, because they hated Jews... they did it like all the non german people simply because they wanted to survive that horror. There were special divisions for Polish, Croats and so on...
@@johannesadamec8670 pls take some history lessons
the golden thing that the guy grabbed form the door frame is a jewish faith relic that serves two purposes to protect the house and show that jewish person lives there.
It's called a mezzusah
A Mezuzah is not a relic. It is a box containing a parchment with two verses from the Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4-9 and 11:13-21. It is also a reminder of the lamb's blood placed on doorframes during the final Plague of the Exodus.
Schindler was not giving the Rabbi the day off. Friday was their Sabbath, their day of worship. They use wine in their ceremony. Schindler respected their faith and beliefs.
Another great reaction from my favorite brothers 😊
You're the best!
The scene where he is dictating the list, where he knows the names and the people, I always break down crying there. I can handle everything else, but that scene just hits me so hard.
there's a local saying that goes: "Only God could make a german Luger click" - and Spielberg made it litteral in that scene. What a director!
Thnx for a great reaction guys!
lol They didn’t treat Muslims like the Jews. There were several SS brigades made up of Muslims from the Balkans, and the Muslims in North Africa collaborated with the Wehrmacht.
I cant imagine there were many muslims in poland or Germany in 1939
Also read into the Palestinian leadership that were in Nazi Germany i.e. mufti al husseini. I don't think Muslims were a Nazi priority at the time.
You say they hated anyone not white? They allied the Japanese dude. The race thing was thrown away at convenience. I'm not gonna say they wouldn't betray their allies later. But Hitler didn't give a shit about Muslims.
@1:08:00 People think that it won't happen again. And when I bring it up they often say the same thing, 'but they need workers,' basically. Chris Williamson did an interview with Paul Hutchinson, and 48 min in during the chapter "Meeting Terrifying People With Terrifying Wealth," he really says why that is not the case. So yeah, it can happen again.
It is happening again. Only the victims are Palestinians.
They need workers,
but that doesn't mean they need to keep them
Jews were not the only group targeted during the Holocaust, but they were the largest by far. Still, many Roma/Gypsies, communists, Poles and Russians (including many POWs), the handicapped, homosexuals, political opposition and "Non-Aryan" races were also targeted. There weren't many black people, but those who were in Germany were subjected to racist laws and often forcibly sterilized, but some went to concentration camps too. Most Muslims who ended up in concentrations camps came from Russia, not Poland. Some ended up in Poland, but it was not until later in the war. Many of them were POWs, but there wasn't really a coherent policy for eliminating Muslims specifically, unless they were also Slavs or Roma. It's important to remember that the Nazis' ideology was focused on racial identity not religion (Jews were considered a distinct race under the Nuremberg Laws, and depending on your grandparents you would be considered Jewish or "Mixed" even if you didn't practice Judaism.) Many Muslims were also killed in Serbia and the other Yugoslavs; however, I think Serbia had its own camps and it was functioning more as a client state beneath Germany. There was also segregation in the camps. Jews would be transferred to other camps, as would the Roma, the communists, etc. Since this movie takes place in Poland and the efforts of Schindler, it only looks at the Jews who were in that specific region, none of the other groups.
Gladiator!!
I second this
yes please react to this
This is the first time I have watched this movie since I first saw it in the theaters in the 1990s. I was so traumatized for days. The memory of this movie is etched into me. I will never understand humanity's inhumanity to one another.
Oscar Schindler when he first became a NAZI worked as a spy in his home country Czechoslovakia that had a large displaced German population that was separated from Germany when the Austro-Hungarian empire was dissolved at the end of WW1. Oscar used his popularity in the Nazi party to start personal businesses to support the war effort using slave labor and that is where the story for this movie begins.
It is a hard movie to watch, but its important to see it and not forget how unchecked evil can progress if we let it.
first minutes "they treated muslims the same". Well.. Hitler was friends with Haj Amin al-Husseini, and they talked about palestine and agreed on jews i think. And the SS made use of arabs in some of their divisions just like they did scandinavians and others who were not part of the german area who volunteered.
While they were doing that with that leader
They were murdering African Muslims and blacks in North Africa
In Czechoslovakia, Bosnia, and Ukraine they were killing communists and Muslims through reprisals from resistance groups
Or targeted cleansing
Marshall Tito had many Muslims in his forces when he fought the Nazis as well.
They made deals with certain Muslim leaders and groups
But if you were a slavic Muslim you were considered a slav
And the Nazis Slaughtered Slavs, who they called barley above animals.
@@mckenzie.latham91ofc, Slavs are untermenschen according to them, No matter the religion.
My point is that our dear brothers think nazis were motivated by some overarching and equal racism and disliked jews the same as muslims or black africans. The last two groups weren't an "issue" for nazis in europe. This was before mass migrations remember.
And Hitler expressed an admiration for islam and saw its potencial as a useful religion for soldiers to have. I can tell you in no uncertain terms that there weren't any auxillary SS made up of jews.
I sadly got into this reaction in the middle, but I have no problem watching the replay! I Love your reactions! ❤ The Germans claimed to be Christians, but Hitler, the SS, and nazi Party were very much into the occult and pagan worship. Muslims, Jews & Christians have much in common from the Old Testament & are the 3 Abrahamic religions. England controlled the lands of palestine (named by the Romans when they forced the Jews to leave around 78 CE (AD). England was the one, at request of the UN, that divided the land between the Jews and Arabs living as nomads in the land as neither Egypt nor Arabia would grant land for those Arabs - now known as Palestinians - to establish their own country. Israel originally was granted more land than they have today but gave up some of their "land for peace" during the peace agreements of the 70s and 80s. Sadly, none of those peace plans worked out. Trump's plans have come the closest to working to date.
Each of those 3 religions believes theirs is the correct belief and the Holy Land & the great city of Jerusalem has great meaning to all 3. The Book of Daniel says Jerusalem would become a contentious city for the world in later days - written almost 500 years before Jesus. It would be a beautiful day if all of them could worship freely, in their own way, in the land. Only then will hostilities & war end. Pray for the peace in Jerusalem - for everyone.
This is why Israel exists.
You have to wonder at the history education and the news allowed in Algeria. These brothers are wonderful souls, but it is so obvious certain facts have been withheld from them in education and news.
@@billbliss1518 I don´t think the facts were withheld- it´s just not part of their curriculum and that is in a lot of countries that way because it was not part of their history, in almost all countries of South America, Africa and Asia the Holocaust is not or barely mentioned. I live in Europe and of course it was a big part in history classes but the lessons stopped with the Nuremberg Prozess what happened after, the Partition plan, the Nakba etc., we didn´t learn a thing about it. Just like we didn´t learn anything about the crimes and massacres of the Japanese during WWII. Pearl Harbor was mentioned but they killed up to 20 Million people in China and South East Asia and I didn´t learn about it until years later in a documentary.
@@billbliss1518 10000%! I do believe they are good people but it’s very obvious they’re victims to regional propaganda.
I love their channel but some of the comments made were factually incorrect and the constant mentioning of palestine and gaza despite this being a movie about the consequences of what hundreds of years of ignored and internalized antisemitism can lead to.
I thought it was a birth right based on divine authority
Which is a literal justification used by the current government of Israel
No, that is not right. The allies did not say "they can just have it". When Germany invaded Poland, England and other allies declared war on Germany. But they were in absolutely no postition to do anything about territory concered on the other side of the land continent. How on earth could they.
My grandfather was Jewish, from what is now Ukraine but in his youth was the Russian Empire. I'm so glad that he and his family got the hell out of there a couple of decades before this crap happened.
Kinda glad the Russians forced my family to leave Europe before all this lol.
The young lady in Red is Polish and today is a volunteer helping Ukrainian refugees.
Regarding the scene towards the end when Schindler makes the sign of the cross on himself:
This is something that some Christians do, mainly Catholics and eastern Orthodox, although slightly differently.
Catholics do it only at the beginning and the end of the prayer (or when they do something religious) and it's up - down - left - right.
The Eastern Orthodox do it a lot more often and not just at the beginning and the end of the prayer, but many, many times during their worship service. Most of them do it even when they are just passing in front of a church and they almost always do three in a row. Also, they do it up - down - right - left, sometimes even bowing while they do it. If you watch videos of an Orthodox liturgy, you'll see them making the sign of the cross all the time.
Schindler was obviously a Catholic, he did it the Catholic way. Just once, very discretely and up - down - left - right.
Really appreciate you uploading this.. thank you and God bless you. Re 6:30 no, not a single Arab had their home taken or was evicted before the Arab Israel war (48). Any comparison between the Holocaust and the situation in Palestine is insulting and ignorant (not blaming you 🫶 many young people are ignorant of holocaust history sadly)
The swastika (Hakenkreuz, hook-cross) is an ancient symbol that survived in many cultures like Hinduism, Buddhism etc. The symbol is connected to so-called Aryan race, probably the invasive Yamnaya culture (probably "proto-indoeuropeans" linguisticaly). Nazi ideology stood on some twisted theological ideas rooted in Christianity but also infused with many occult ideas, rooted in theosofical movements of 19th century, and various religions of ancient time, to an extent you could even call it something like a "Death cult". Nazi Germany simply derived its origin from the Aryan race and adopted the Swastika symbol. But swastika resembling a cross doesn't mean it is a Christian symbol in origin, it is not. The whole idea is wacky, historically distorted in narration and even Semitic races share same origins to an extent, so it is not only evil but also idiotic. And usage of swastika in eastern cultures is unrelated to German Nazi ideology.
The Nazis hated Christianity just as much as they hated the jews. There was nothing Christian about what they did. Not even a little bit. In fact the only one into all of the occult crap was Himmler. Hitler thought it was a waste of time and ridiculous. He had no time for religion of any kind.
The nazi ideology has nothing to do with christendom. It was at first a distinctively secular ideology overall.
Matter of fact is tho that about 95%of germans were nominally christian at the time. This is why the nazis did utilize anti-semitic sentiment in parts of christianity to scapegoat and "other" jews. They used religion as a tool in their rethoric to sow division and gather public support. But it never was part of their ideology.
At the same time Hitler viewed the chruches as contrarian and a long term threat to his ideology - in the later stages of nazi rule they tried to introduce a pesudo-religious cult around their ideology. Based on a weird cocktail of norse mythology and naziism.
Ofc this didnt work out and even back in the day only a hand full of people actually ditched their religion in favour for this cooked up cult. Mainly in the SS.
But it was planned to phase out all religions after the war with this new cult. So that there would be no systematic rivals to nazi ideology.
It actually may be the first complex symbol humanity ever came up with. Supposedly it’s on some cave paintings. There’s a theory that it’s based on patterns inside mammoth tusks and may have originally been a symbol for food.
@@huntardhc2286 Nothing funnier than one cult calling another religion a cult.
@@menotyou8369 well in terms of the nazi-cult it was literally that. Religions usually form through conversion. Not by dictate of a mass murderer.
There is a book called Auschwitz.
This movie doesnt show even close how horrible it was. One thing I remember from the book is that soldiers all around the world were asked why they killed and tortured humans and did such horrible things. Most of them said because we had to follow orders or if we didnt do it we were killed aswell. The germans said we did it because we hated them. They were proud and there heart were full of evil
I loved this reaction. I'm 55 and saw this when it first came out. I bawled my eyes out at the scene with the girl in the red coat. I'm from the UK. My Grandfather escaped from Poland before the Nazi invasion, and fought at Monte Cassino. He was one of the first into the ruins of the monastery. My Great Uncle was a political prisoner in Auswitz (Oswiechem) and was liberated at the end of the war, and escaped the Russian oppression in Eastern Poland. They married my Grandmother and Great Aunt, who were sisters, because we had a refugee camp, literally on our doorstep at Hardwick Hall in Derbyshire UK. Thanks for reaching to this. I've followed you for a long while now, but never got a notification of this when you first reacted. The World is in chaos right now. Humanity seems to have disappeared. All I want is peace and safety for my kids and Grand children. Every religion or race or persuasion would agree. Unfortunately we have corrupt politicians and religious extremists. It's so sad.and depressing. Unfortunately, people like Orwell, Alinsky, etc. Were right decades ago.😢
You shouldn't abbreviate the name of the United Kingdom - give your country more respect.
@@artsed08 alright then. I'm from England. The United Kingdom isn't a country. It's a union, much like the EU, European Union.
The Nazis did not target Muslims specifially. There were even several muslim SS divisions. The Nazis saw Muslims as useful allies in the fight against the British Empire. The Nazis hoped that Muslims would rise up in the Britsh colonies and cause the Brtish as much trouble as possible. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, even met Hitler in 1942 to ask for his support for Arab independence from Britain and France and made all kind of propaganda appearances for the Nazis. The Nazis also supported an anti British coup in Iraq in 1942 and gave weapons and aircraft to the pro German faction in Iraq. However, the British quickly re-established their control over Iraq.The leader of the SS, Heinrich Himmer, was very much into warrior cultures like the Vikings etc. and he saw similarities between old germanic myths and Islam who he saw as useful for a nation of warriors.
There were also Czech, Romanian, and Ukrainian units in the SS
That didn't stop the Nazis mass murdering Czechs, Romanians, Ukrainians and etc
Sophie's Choice will break your soul.
i absolutely love your channel. reminds me of when i was in school and everybody thought i was muslim and i became good friends with alot of islamic people, even tho im native american
A dark terrible time in German + world history . But this movie shows that some Germans worked in the grey areas of government rules to provide a small degree of hope and compassion to the persecuted jewish peoples . Another good movie to review ( also based on true events ) is VALKYRIE .
I love to read books. On this subject I recommend "Crucible of Terror" by Max Liebster. It is a short read, but very interesting. It is written by a Jewish man, and it is about his stay in the concentration camps, and how he was helped by Christians who were also locked up but because they were conscientious objectors. He eventually became a Christian.
Another interesting read along the same type of tragedy, "No Greater Love" by Tharcisse Seminega. This is about a man and his family surviving the slaughter of the Tutsi tribe by the Hutu tribe in Rwanda, both sides being Christian.
I think it is important to see what was wrong in the past to know not to repeat the same mistakes.
"And over all these virtues put on love, which is the bond of perfect unity." (Colossians 3: 14)
You were like "Schindler is the devil".
The movie: "Let me show you an actual devil" (rolls in Amon Goeth)
Real Schindler was quite far from the character depicted in this film.
@@Mustanaamio7 So what? Same is true for the real Amon Goeth
Thank you for reacting to this. Never an easy watch, but important. ❤
Thank you for watching!
Palestine is not a country, it is a geographical region consisting of many different people now and throughout history. Before it was called Palestine it was known as Judea.
Id love to see a movie such as this about the Balfour Declaration and how the Middle East was divided up to establish Israel. Not trying to start a argument but man I am curious how that would be perceived.
Israel was established thousands of years ago.
@@Marcus-p5i5s The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British Government in 1917 during the First World War announcing its support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population. This is what I am referring to. Try not to split hairs so much...life is easier that way.
@@jimmy_jarhead I know what it was. Geez, you think Britain created Israel? OMFG rent an education.
@@Marcus-p5i5s Thats not what I said at all. Stop trying to provoke an argument.
Interesting fact:
I read an article a few years ago where a woman who had watched the movie recognized herself. She was the little girl in the red dress.
She had actually survived the war. ❤
A bit of history. Polish troops fought with Germany and Russia (they attacked on September 17, 1939) from September 1 to October 6, 1939. Oskar Schindler undertook a dangerous undertaking. As a German, he was threatened with guillotining for helping Jews. Literally . Occupied Poland was the only country occupied by the Germans where any assistance to Jews was punishable by immediate death. It doesn't matter if you were a woman, a man or a child. For giving you even a cup of water or even a rotten vegetable or fruit, the Germans had the right to kill you on sight. The Germans burned entire villages because of this. Despite this, most of those who saved and hid Jews were Poles.
Ukraines military participated in the slaughters of over 6 million Jews, minorities during the Holocaust, Ukraine continues having a massive Neo-Nazi presence and large groups of Ukrainian Neo Nazis meet to celebrate their insane ideology aka hatred of Jewish persons, support inciting violence towards Jews and the genocide of Jews, not to mention under two different Democrat administrations, Operation Overcast later called Operation Paperclip was started and made it possible for Mazi scientists, doctors, soldiers etc trying to escape accountability for their heinously sinister acts during the Holocaust, to come into the US, have their records, names etc wiped clean and were given jobs in the US government, creating nuclear weapons etc which allowed their families to also live, go to school and work in the US, as US citizens were none the wiser yet even today under the current administration, which has given over 400 billion dollars to Ukraine, one of the most corrupted countries in the world, despite being well aware of their past, present very antisemitic ideology and hatred for Jews and right before the barbarically sickening acts of Hamas against innocent Israeli babies, children, pregnant women and their unborn babies etc Biden had funneled over 232 million dollars to Palestinian/Gazan leaders and organizations that openly, blatantly, fund, harbor, support Hamas terrorists and shelled out another 32 million 30 days before the unwarranted murders against Israelis committed by Hamas which I strongly believe was payment in advance for Hamas to commit such vile as acts that would incite a war from Israeli leaders because funding for Ukraine, an insane amounts of funds Biden and his administration have been funneling back and forth, was coming to an end so another war needed to be orchestrated.
The piece he pulled off the doorway and kissed was religious.
yep it’s called a mezuzah!
I always wondered how muslims felt about this movie. Thanks.
There's a video on YT called The Fallen of World War II that breaks down both the military and civilian deaths and casualties of WWII, which was in the tens of millions, many say as many as a couple hundred million, and when you consider the mass murders that were still taking place after the end of the war it's not hard to believe it's even higher than that. It's difficult to conceive of the numbers that are being talked about and the guy who made the video, Neil Halloran, did an excellent job of laying it out visually in graphs and charts. It's a highly impactful video.
I hope they watch this. I teach high school history and show this to my students every year. It still blows my mind every time I watch it, and it really opens the students’ eyes.
I wish more people had the mindsets of you two gentlemen. Much love to you and your families.
the woman in bed with Amon is his mistress, she gave birth to his daughter a few months before he died, he never met his daughter, but she grew up believing her dad was a war hero. the mistress loved him until her dying day in the 80s. it wasn't until she saw Schindler's List that she learned the truth about her father. years later, the daughter's daughter. amon's granddaughter, saw a book about schindler (presumabily the one this movie is based on) and saw Amon's name. and when she read the book, is when she learned who her grandfather truly was. she wrote a book about the experience called ''my grandfather would of shot me'', she also wanted to know more so she saw this movie and was horrified. the reason she says that she would of been shot is because she herself is half african, her dad is nigerian, her mother is german white. so amon would in fact not approve of his grandaughter being mixed race.
im pretty sure christoph waltz said that he based part of his performance on ralph's amon here.
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all united by Abraham. In a way, we're a trio.
But all religions are equal and nobody should have to suffer because of their beliefs.
All religions are NOT equal!
@@moon-moth1 Wrong on all counts. Islam may say that they worship the same god, but Allah is not the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, closer to being polar opposites. There are tons of evidence that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob does exist, have you ever looked for any?
@@entropy2002Since the Incarnation of Christ, and their rejection of Him, Jews also no longer worship the true God.
@@bigboineptune9567 Blessings bigboineptune, It is true that many don't, BUT... There are somewhere between 700,000 to a million Messianic Jews who DO believe in Yeshua/Jesus (these are part of the "one new man"). Secondly, many Jews still believe in God, but they missed that particular aspect of God. They still worship the true God, but not His entirety (Abba Father, Yeshua/Jesus and Ruach ha Kodesh/Holy Spirit).
It would be like saying all the Cessationist no longer worship the true God. Many of them DO worship the true God, but are messed up on attributes of Holy Spirit. Take for instance John MacArthur, I think he is doing tremendous damage to the Kingdom, but I do believe he is worshipping many aspects of the True God. There are many things I admire about him (like keeping his church open during the virus), but he is bringing great strife among the body of Christ.
@@bigboineptune9567Well, they still worship God the Father, Yaweh, so it's good enough.
at 19:34 it's worse than the allies 'leaving' poland, the Russians (who would later join Britain and France in the allies in 1941) actually invaded poland with Germany and split north eastern europe between them as they had just signed a friendship treaty. France tried to do a little offensive into germany to distract the germans but quickly pulleed back
Did you know that Steven Spielberg submitted *this movie* to meet his ‘student film’ requirement, for his degree- after a 33 year hiatus- because it was made more as a passion project for him, than anything else.
It then proceeded to win *two* Oscars.
Hitler and his view on Religion is complicated. He liked to show himself as christian to the german public, he himself often in his speeches called upon "Providence" or "divine Providence" and he had no great view of Christianity, saying it was a "meek and feeble" Religion. They did make a thing called "positive christianity" which denied that Jesus was jewish but had "aryan blood" from his aramaic (?) ancestors. Mein Kampf (1924-25), written while Hitler was in prison after his failed 1923 putsch, contains numerous references to "God", "the Creator", "Providence" and "the Lord".
Hitler actually met with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and wished to win the Muslims of the Middle East as allies against the british, there was even an SS Division recruited from bosnian Muslims, they gave them propaganda leaflets quoting certain hadith to agitate them against Jews.
Another interesting fact is that the Waffen-SS soldiers were encouraged to leave the church and identify themselves as "Gottgläubig" "Believing in God".
Against popular belief, Hitler did NOT want to restore the old germanic pagan Gods as a form of religion. Also, Hitler viewed atheists as uneducated, and atheism as the state of the animals. He associated atheism with Bolshevism, communism, and "Jewish materialism". And hier a Quote from Wikipedia that i found quite interesting:
During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the invasion of Gaul. According to Albert Speer, Hitler wished that the Caliphate had won the Battle of Tours against the Franks in 732: "The Mohammedan religion would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[218] "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers - already, you see, the world had fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing was Christianity! - then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies heroism and which opens the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so."[219] According to Speer, Hitler believed that if Islam had taken root in central Europe, the Germanic people would have become the "heirs of that religion" and would have "stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire" as Islam, according to him suited the Germanic temperament.[218]
Despite Hitler's apparent admiration for Islam and Muhammad,[220] and his willingness to work with Arab political leaders, he viewed Arab people as racial and social inferiors.
From the leader of the Waffen-SS, Heinrich Himmler is said that he insisted on the existence of a creator God, who favoured and guided the Third Reich and the German nation, as he announced to the SS: "We believe in a God Almighty who stands above us; he has created the Earth, the Fatherland, and the Volk, and he has sent us the Führer. Any human being who does not believe in God should be considered arrogant, megalomaniacal, and stupid and thus not suited for the SS." He did not allow atheists into the SS, arguing that their "refusal to acknowledge higher powers" would be a "potential source of indiscipline".
Himmler was not particularly concerned by the question how to label this higher power; God Almighty, the Ancient One, Destiny, "Waralda", Nature, etc. were all acceptable, as long as they referred to some "higher power that had created this world and endowed it with the laws of struggle and selection that guaranteed the continued existence of nature and the natural order of things."
I saw this in the Theater when it came out. I was so drain of energy when it was finally over, I could hardly walk out of the Theater. Think I stayed depressed for a week. I was purposely filmed in black and white, so we would feel the dept of the movie
I really like that you took your time with this. It didn't feel too long for reaction video, since topic and movie are so meaningful.
This was based on real life Schindler did everything he did in the movie
The man @32:48, Amon Goeth, was actually worse in real life (yes, he existed, and he was far more evil), they had to tone him down because the director didn't believe that an audience would believe how bad he truly was.
The actor playing him was shown to the actual survivors, and they all thought it was the man reborn, he was soo close in mannerism and appearance.
@34:04 Yes, the regular German soldiers were by and large conscripts, but the SS (you can see the double lightning bolts on their collars) HAVE to be members of the Nazi Party, and were responsible for a large amount of atrocities because they were a "private army" for Hitler himself essentially.
Hating Jews this much was Nazi Party policy; It was a big part of why they were elected.
Yes they were elected.
The act of placing visitation stones is significant in Jewish bereavement practices. Small stones are placed by people who visit Jewish graves in an act of remembrance or respect for the deceased. The practice is a way of participating in the mitzvah of burial.
The sign he does at the end is the Sign of the Cross, "In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit". It's Catholic.
Heart wrenching movie. Now you know why Zionism is all the more important.
"Whoever saves one life, saves the world entirely". I think almost every sacred book and or spoken language has this quote in some form, but still "representatives" of those moral values ignore it. Dosent mean that common people should, in my opinion. "Don't stare at your neighbors grain of sand in the eye while ignoring the pole in yours" is one of my favourite quote, that probably have a correspondant in every language. I live by it.
Day 553 of asking the brothers to watch. Remember the titans 😂
For you is maybe the best movie ever. I saw it. For me is an okay movie since l am not a fan of American futbol. I guess the Muslim brothers either.
Not gonna lie, the more I watch of you guys the more I know how much they don't teach in other places, like yeah the American school system isn't that good, but they try teach all world history at least lol. Also I still learned way more on my own though so that still says alot. My parents were also cultured so that helps.
Mila Pfefferberg (the woman that refused to go into the sewers) married the man (that's the wedding we saw) that told the author of the book this is based on his story. Mila, was on set and saw Ralph Fiennes in his nazi uniform as Amon Goth (it's pronounced Gert) and she started shaking uncontrollably because he looked so much like Amon.
Awesome reaction! Found you guys down A rabbit hole of folks who do not know either the holocaust \Schindler or both. This was A very refreshing react to watch... Thank you for spending the time!!
In answer to your question: no, the Nazis were not Christian, they denounced religion as a whole except of course their own strange quasi-occult Aryan beliefs, but they mostly would be considered atheist/non-religious
As for the stones on the grave, it’s a Jewish custom to place a small stone on the grave marker of a loved one when you visit it, and you’re correct, it’s a sign of love and respect
"Nazi Germany was an overwhelmingly Christian nation. A census in May 1939, six years into the Nazi era[1] after the annexation of Austria and Czechoslovakia[2] into Germany, indicates[3] that 54% of the population considered itself Protestant, 41% considered itself Catholic, 3.5% self-identified as Gottgläubig[4] (lit. "believing in God"),[5] and 1.5% as "atheist".[4] "
This is not true. The Nazis were Christian. Hitler laid it out very clearly in Mein Kampf that his entire ideology was deeply rooted in the belief he was doing God's work. They instituted prayer in schools and signed a concordat with the Vatican. The phrase 'God is with Us' was inscribed on the SS belt buckles. Anything you hear differently is post war propaganda, created (mostly) by American Evangelical Christians to try and distance their religion from the Nazis.
"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith" - AH
"We believe in a God Almighty who stands above us; he has created the earth, the Fatherland, and the Volk, and he has sent us the Führer. Any human being who does not believe in God should be considered arrogant, megalomaniacal, and stupid and thus not suited for the SS. As National Socialists, we believe in a Godly worldview." - Himler
Indeed, one of the warning signs of rising fascism enshrined in the US Holocaust museum in DC is intertwining of government and religion.
Plenty were christians,practizing ones.
This is not correct - the nazi's relationship with Christianity is complicated and self-contradictory, but it is not true to say that most of them were atheist or irreligious. Hitler made pronouncements about Christianity privately and publically both negative and positive. Sometimes he engaged in anti-clerical rants, saying that he'd rid Germany of the Church after he'd rid it of Jewish people - sometimes he positioned himself as the defender of Christendom from atheistic communism.
Plenty of high-ranking nazis were active Christians. Anti-semitism within Christianity has a long history, and some nazis engaged in anti-semitism due to their Christian beliefs, just as some Christians resisted the nazis due to their Christian beliefs.
The occult stuff was something a minority of nazis dabbled in, it was not mainstream at all.
@@arielabril1981 they denounced the church and Christianity as weak and useless to the Nazi goal, they tolerated churches that added Nazi propaganda to their doctrine
One of my top 10 favourite movies. You two brothers did an excellent job. The ending breaks all men who have a pure heart.
Some scenes were not shot at all. Goeths crimes were so cruel, monstrous, sadistic, and inhumane that the producers thought the viewers might perceive them as constructed only for the film, thus damaging the whole work.
Goeth often rode through the death camp, and when he wore a simple cap, the camp inmates could be reasonably sure that nothing would happen. However, when he wore his officer's cap and white gloves, the inmates were in absolute danger of death. One, in his eyes wrong look or a wrong greeting was enough and he began to murder without restraint, after he had tortured his victims before in indescribable sadistic way.
By the way, the gravestones seen in the last shot were laid as paving stones on the road to the entrance of the Auschwitz extermination camp.
I am German and the so-called "German culture of remembrance" is a matter of course in our country. Every day, for example, there are documentaries on at least two channels which show among other things the background of how Hitler was able to lever out parliament to come to power, the crimes of the GESTAPO (Secret state police) in their torture cellars, the deportation of the Jews, underlaid with original images from the concentration camps, the cruelest war crimes of the SS, which followed the Wehrmacht on the campaign and then brought unimaginable suffering to the rest of the population, which was also filmed at the time. Some already in color, which makes the whole thing seem even more bizarre.
Trenches, on the edges of which Jews were killed by the hundreds with shots to the neck, etc.
There are also "Stepstones". Small memorial plaques laid in the ground, so-called Stolpersteine, are intended to commemorate the fate of people who were persecuted, murdered, deported, expelled or driven to suicide during the National Socialist era. The square brass plaques with rounded corners and edges are inscribed with letters hammered in by hand using a hammer and hammer letters, showing e.g. who was deported in that house. They are usually set into the sidewalk or surface of the respective sidewalk at the same level in front of the last freely chosen homes of Nazi victims. On December 29, 2019 the 75,000th Stepstone was laid in Memmingen.
In the German extermination camps, the women and children were gassed first, so that no more Jews could be born and grow up.
Word had long since spread among the Jews that these gas chambers existed and when they arrived in Auschwitz, they also knew what the smoking chimneys meant. They knew exactly what to expect when they were led into such a chamber and, as shown in the movie, waited in mortal fear for the gas. The fact that water actually came out of the taps was one of the perfidious psychological torture methods used by the Nazis. It is always unbelievable what deviant fantasies people develop in order to torture other people!
Very few Germans wanted to have known about the concentration camps, which of course was complete nonsense. For example, thousands of apartments were suddenly vacant because the Jewish residents had been deported during the night. The very next day, "Aryan" Germans, mostly belonging to the party cadre, moved in.
Then hundreds of civilian German guards were employed in the death camps, who were even proud of their "work" and bragged about it to their acquaintances and friends. I could give many more examples, which prove that it was total bullshit, when it was claimed not to have seen anything and not to know what was happening there.
In any case, I am a little proud of the fact that in Germany, even more than 75 years after the war, these unimaginable crimes against humanity have been and are being dealt with.
Most Germans were still Christians under the third Reich, but the Nazi ideology was more rooted in paganism and a romanticized view of pre-christian germanic people. They saw the world as a jungle in which only the most ruthless survive and hence saw Christianity as a weak ideology. But aside from this big mess of Ancient/medieval aesthetic put forth by the Nazi party, they remained nonetheless pretty much christians.
Thank you so much for watching this movie and sharing your reactions, brothers. I cried many times during it myself, especially for the children. I hate hatred. I want peace between our people and no more killing.
@@TheBrooklynPipe Weak af 🙄
Hey Habibi Brothers, such a great reaction. I'm following you channel for quite sometime, since i saw your reaction on the fellowship of the ring (still waiting for the return of the king btw).
Just came to say thank you for this beautiful reaction, every single time the "i could do more" scene gets me to tear up.
I think the contents of this movie can make quite a controversial topic on this channel and i came just to give some gratitude for the content you guys provide.
For all the ones who are polemicizing this video: Please, realize that others will have a different view from yours, different reasons and even different basis to wich they argüe. I miself have my pont of view, as does everybody else and see different points of views can be illuminating if you aren't close minded.
Oh, and on the first crusade there was at least one crusader army that thought Jerusalem was too far away and it was best to sack Europe and kill jews, they were closer. To their credit plenty of christians priests and bishops died with a sword in their hands to defend the innocent jews who were being slaughtered and seeked haven in churches and catedrals.
Sorry for my poor english and any mistakes made
Obrigado, from Brazil.
Hello brothers. I just wanted to say hi and give you a like. I've seen this movie once and I can't watch it again. ✌️
This was directed by Steven Spielberg (director of Jaws, Jurassic Park, and many other movies).
Also, if you liked this movie, Spielberg did a movie that explores the endless cycle of violence in Israel/Palestine. It's called "Munich".
The person laying the flower on Schindler's grave was Liam Neeson. Just like every actor accompanied the real person to the grave, Neeson went there by himself
@@stephanos2758 I was mistaken. I had read before that it was Spielberg.
Loved this guys, its pretty interesting to see the different reactions of people from different cultures to good movies... suggestion: you guys should react to the scarlet and the black, it's set during the Nazi occupation of Italy, an Irish priest trafficked around 4000 allied POWs and Jewish refugees to allied territories... it's a fascinating game of wits between an SS commander and a priest, it's worth a look for sure. It's a true story aswell!
The girl with the red dress is actually from the memory of the actress Audrey Hepburn who, in her youth, worked with the Dutch resistance against the Nazis during WW2. She told Spielberg of an incident during World War II where she saw a little girl with the same attire while the other people were loaded onto trains.
Love your reactions and your individual personalities. This is such an important story and it was beautifully personified via film. It’s a raw, gruesome movie, but it simultaneously shows the light in the darkness. (And is tragically ironic considering the genocide in Palestine). All love from New Mexico Habibi Brothers!
Fun History: Abraham moves to Canaan & sets up town in 1816BCE next Pharaoh captures most Canaanites in 1450BCE next Pharaoh sends captured Peleset / Philistine Sea Peoples( Not Indigenous) to Gaza in 1150BCE next Released Canaanites/ Israelites from Pharaoh are told to capture Jebus ( other Canaanites) in 1003BCE and do next Ceasar Captures Judea in 135 BCE being very angry changes the name from Judea to the Philistine Territories next Yasser Arafat the KGB & Egypt create the PLO in 1964 for Arabs born in Canaan. Gaza was named by a Canaanite. The only DNA known Canaanites live in Lebanon. Home boys from Jericho City Built a Fort 10,000 years ago by the Creak.😎
I like the occasional messages that come on screen to describe what’s happening. They make sure you remember it’s not just a movie but history.
At around 50 minutes you enquire about the state of the muslim population, the guy on the left is right ( pun not intended) in Europe muslims were also mistreated by the german state like as bad as ziganes etc. Outside it was different, many muslim leaders saw germany as an opportunity tobreak free from Britain and France and extended offers of friendship particularly when they saw how germany treated the jewish population ( resented since sykes-picot). Famously AH met with the mufti of jerusalem and made a joint declaration.