Life of an Indie App Developer - Computerphile

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  • Marco Arment made his name developing Tumblr but is now an independent app developer and technology commentator. He works mainly on web and iPhone software.
    More videos from this interview (and more coming): bit.ly/Marco_Videos
    Marco's own website: marco.org
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    This video was filmed and edited by Brady Haran (with a few tweaks by Sean).
    Computer Science at the University of Nottingham: bit.ly/nottscomputer
    Computerphile is a sister project to Numberphile. More at www.bradyharan.com
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  • @ching9679
    @ching9679 8 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I admire this guy's humility. He seems like a really nice guy. Probably his character is one of the reasons of his success.

  • @rich1051414
    @rich1051414 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Nothing better than deleting code, or simplifying redundant code. That is what gets me through the '90%' of drudgery, thinking about how I can do this simpler than I did last time, or how can I automate this process to make it quicker from now on. I am definitely a programmer that requires a challenge, and I will invent them if none exist.

  • @gunjeetsingh90
    @gunjeetsingh90 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This guy is so humble and honest .. outrightly tells others he isn't qualified to manage a team.. here in india you find mostly arrogant nutcases who will never do that.

    • @you7uber5
      @you7uber5 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +gunjeet singh india has shitty programmers

    • @gunjeetsingh90
      @gunjeetsingh90 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +tenminutetokyo : You are not wrong when you say one can buy a Phd. But those aren't the people who make it to silicon valley. I have some friends working in the valley and i can tell you they can compete with anyone in the world. Its not that easy for indians to make it to Silicon valley.

    • @frooots
      @frooots 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      gunjeet singh cultural differences 😃👍

  • @markganus1085
    @markganus1085 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    struggling programmer here. it's always motivating to watch talks with successful guys in the business.

  • @JairoCepeda
    @JairoCepeda 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I needs MOARRR.
    Seriously, I'm an indie developer, Hello Internet and ATP listener on Overcast. I love the work of Marco and yourself Brady. I'm eager to watch what's coming up.

  • @Perspectologist
    @Perspectologist 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like this series with Marco. Looking forward to the release of more videos.

  • @Richard-yt4rk
    @Richard-yt4rk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This guy sounds like Big Head in Silicon Valley!

  • @gutlessband5825
    @gutlessband5825 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. Really dig this sort of stuff.
    Would love to see more. Keep it up.

  • @jopaki
    @jopaki 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a cool gent. Thanks, Brady (keep em coming), for another gem.

  • @lednerg
    @lednerg 8 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    tumblr's Woz

  • @Stalkie
    @Stalkie 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "Do not touch the screen. I know what you mean." Love it :)

    • @SONOFAZOMBIE2025
      @SONOFAZOMBIE2025 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Sami what does it mean? I don't get it... :(

    • @DYTerMyter
      @DYTerMyter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He doesn't like when somebody touch his spagh...sorry, screen. And he can get the opponent's point without any pocking his screen. Apology for the late explanation.

  • @danfarm
    @danfarm 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You really are a great interviewer, Brady.

  • @schmoab
    @schmoab 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting interview. Gives me a few ideas. Thank you.

  • @21doyourthing
    @21doyourthing 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marco is great and so enjoyable to listen to.

  • @plop010
    @plop010 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    overcast is awesome! the standard ios podcast app is crap so I switched to overcast and it's just so much better. great job and thanks!

  • @kubispice3026
    @kubispice3026 8 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I have never seen a programmer so happy in their life. I sure as hell am not.

    • @CutiePi
      @CutiePi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +kubi spice Where do you work?

    • @ciyvi9
      @ciyvi9 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +kubi spice why? whats wrong with being programmer???

    • @kubispice3026
      @kubispice3026 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +Shorty4 Nothing wrong with being a programmer as I am a programmer, it is just the job I guess that you get or whom you work for. I personally do not like 12 hour days and short deadlines with threats of being fired if a extremely short deadline is not filled. I know 4 or 5 other programmers at different companies as well and they say the same thing to me. I guess the bigger the company the worse, unless you get the opportunity to work at say Google or Oracle.

    • @kubispice3026
      @kubispice3026 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +2263275electro I work on backend development at a healthcare company.

    • @kubispice3026
      @kubispice3026 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Hanniffy Dinn Not enough time to start up a project and work for myself. To create a great project, you need multiple people with loads of different talents to work on sections of the project. Whether that be security related, CGI, marketing, etc. Most programmers do not create with security in mind, and this is a huge disservice to users of the product (s) that you create .

  • @bernardosulzbach3134
    @bernardosulzbach3134 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video is very good. This is the level of quality we've come to expect from this channel.

  • @sweetspotendurance
    @sweetspotendurance 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was fascinating, keep 'em coming. Also, why was Brady back to Computerphile?

  • @bryn2666
    @bryn2666 8 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Nice Schiit Audio gear there.

    • @Computerphile
      @Computerphile  8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +Bryn Barker see the playlist link in video description to more Marco videos!!!

    • @BubbaYoga
      @BubbaYoga 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      +Bryn Barker "That sounds like Schiit"

    • @343N
      @343N 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Bryn Barker shiiiiiiiiiiiettt he's got schiit

  • @Tribble_Mama
    @Tribble_Mama 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Overcast is my favorite podcast app I have used so far. I recently switched from an iPhone to a Nexus phone and that is the one app I am having the hardest time replacing. It is also the only app I have ever spent money on.(partly because I'm cheap, partly because I'm poor :) I love it, still have it on my iPad.

  • @Semikami
    @Semikami 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It feels like it has been ages since this was teased…worth the wait!
    (these comments though…not so much)

  • @ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz
    @ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Allot of wise things were said in this short clip. Being in the right place at the right time can get you in the door, but it is the perseverance that will make you grow.

  • @rafaelkrizek9608
    @rafaelkrizek9608 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for honesty! Helps a lot! :)

  • @JoeDzado
    @JoeDzado 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I, too, love deleting obsolete code.

  • @jmasterX
    @jmasterX 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video!

  • @victornaut
    @victornaut 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I LOVE DELETING CODE.

  • @yababyism
    @yababyism 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    He didn't mention that he's on a podcast called under the radar. It's a great podcast about independent app development. If you're interested in this video, you should check out that podcast!

  •  8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like a really independence and fame longing guy that wants to have fun. That's not an easy way to take but a respectable one. Very nice interview.

  • @jmbu196
    @jmbu196 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I

  • @Amutechnologies
    @Amutechnologies 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice one thanks for the sharing..

  • @TheSpacecraftX
    @TheSpacecraftX 8 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    This man is partially responsible for the cancer that is Tumblr but he seems like a cool guy. He just made it work.
    It's pretty cool to have a hand in so many successful projects.

    • @404namemissing6
      @404namemissing6 8 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      +TheSpacecraftX He made a great product. It are the users who made it cancer.

    • @TheSpacecraftX
      @TheSpacecraftX 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I Wrestle Bears Very true.

    • @TheGreatSteve
      @TheGreatSteve 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +TheSpacecraftX Be thankful the tumblarina's are quarantined there.

    • @TheSpacecraftX
      @TheSpacecraftX 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ***** It's a breeding ground for "special snowflakes" and the extreme left. Like the kind of people who get love to get offended (e.g. shirtstorm). Those people were confined to tumblr for the longest time but they're spilling out into real life and other places online.

    • @sunsetsoverlavenderfields
      @sunsetsoverlavenderfields 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +TheSpacecraftX there's cool parts of tumblr. there's also shitty parts. just like reddit, 4chan, facebook, and any other website.

  • @SimplyMyAccount
    @SimplyMyAccount 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Overcast is the best podcast app by far. But please take out the pause play button sound thing. It isnt big enough to actually see the sound waves so it just looks like half light orange half dark orange.

  • @ferocious_lad2031
    @ferocious_lad2031 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okie this is f*ing 7 years but super relatably relevant till this day.

  • @jamesrockybullin5250
    @jamesrockybullin5250 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    00:07 00:24 00:36 01:11 01:42 02:28 02:34 03:35 04:19 04:27 05:48 07:26 08:23

    • @CYXXYC
      @CYXXYC 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Piano Telope He is nervous xD

    • @euphoricanimal
      @euphoricanimal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      +Piano Telope You have so much time.

    • @SleeveBlade
      @SleeveBlade 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Piano Telope lol didn't notice that

    • @jamesrockybullin5250
      @jamesrockybullin5250 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Vishwas Chauhan I suppose that's why he is being interviewed and not me. :) But I will not be listening to his podcast or other spoken-word media... jk x

    • @joshuajurgensmeier4534
      @joshuajurgensmeier4534 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +Piano Telope Wait... Is laughing against the rules now?

  • @tatianatub
    @tatianatub 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    i remember the early days of tumblr and how often it was down

  • @pierreleonsimard
    @pierreleonsimard 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inspiring!

  • @mayur1234560
    @mayur1234560 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The top-right thumbnail at the end of the video titled 'app development' doesn't even exist (yet) ?

  • @slugrider
    @slugrider 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anybody know where I could pick up some of those acoustic panels that he has?

  • @BoebieBaby
    @BoebieBaby 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are there any places where people can give off projects to other people?

  • @YSOFTWARE
    @YSOFTWARE 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wish I was an iOS dev back in 2008.

  • @tomdonaldson698
    @tomdonaldson698 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting!

  • @wargaming67
    @wargaming67 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are those Schiit Audio stuff near the speaker on the left?

  • @tzisorey
    @tzisorey 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "When do you let it go?"
    Great art is never completed - merely abandoned.

  • @crookesm
    @crookesm 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do one on Siracusa too, please!

  • @therealpanse
    @therealpanse 8 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Damn... He really had to say "gif" without a trigger warning? I feel offended.

    •  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +therealpanse Ich auch - und das schon bevor das Video hochgeladen wurde. Verschwörung? Illuminaten? Freimaurer? Oder doch nur Außerirdische...

    • @Lugitaro
      @Lugitaro 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +therealpanse Please go easy on him. It's not his fault that it turned out like that.

    • @asoidfhowehjr8248
      @asoidfhowehjr8248 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +therealpanse e d g y

  • @davidthorne999
    @davidthorne999 8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This guys sounds like bighead from silicon valley

  • @petefluffy7420
    @petefluffy7420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When did they change from being programs?

  • @MichielHaisma
    @MichielHaisma 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    MARCO ARMENT ON TH-cam OMGMGG

  • @stewiegriffin6503
    @stewiegriffin6503 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    why is Agassi making apps ?

  • @Arcsinner
    @Arcsinner 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    03:30 Fed-EX truck!

    • @tankmohit
      @tankmohit 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +Archsinner Brand Placement. lol

  • @sofiekimochiha3702
    @sofiekimochiha3702 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank u :*

  • @ConditionOfMan
    @ConditionOfMan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buffer overflow attack annotation link directs to Indie Games & the Fourth Dimension.

    • @finnianquail8881
      @finnianquail8881 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Drake Walker It was a buffer overflow app

  • @Ramzuiv
    @Ramzuiv 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marco looks quite different than how I imagined he looks

  • @rasm781b
    @rasm781b 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What programming language do Marco use?

  • @chloupichloupa
    @chloupichloupa 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy is so modest that I think he has real confidence issues ^^.

  • @noelgallagher7887
    @noelgallagher7887 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:20 "Do not touch the screen, I know what you mean." Haha I also get crazy when people put their dirty little finger on my screen

  • @sonicx7098
    @sonicx7098 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait this guy start streaming, would be cool. Kappa

  • @mvitcpmvitcp8103
    @mvitcpmvitcp8103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did he say he moved past the stage of his life where he could do something like that?

  • @CowTipper898
    @CowTipper898 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Overcast is the best podcast app

  • @Lostpanda123
    @Lostpanda123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The next thing is VR. Be ready people!

    • @anjith
      @anjith 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Been ready for a while 😒

  • @justodiaz1858
    @justodiaz1858 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a software developer, I agree with what he says at about 4:20, you need both of fixing an app and creating something new.

  • @jetbtwo
    @jetbtwo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe what he meant to say is Brand (tm)

  • @SirNightmareFuel
    @SirNightmareFuel 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    So do you figure VR could be the next wave?

  • @512TheWolf512
    @512TheWolf512 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tumblr is a terrible place nowadays
    why thank you for it, Marco, thank you!

  • @theamjolnir9641
    @theamjolnir9641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So essentially he learned about branding and marketing and that helped him succeed.

  • @TheRomichou
    @TheRomichou 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The "don't touch my screen, I know what you mean" sticker though.

  • @certee
    @certee 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Something about being a co-developer of Tumblr and being called an Indie dev just doesn't sit with me right.

    • @mitchellbrien7034
      @mitchellbrien7034 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Regardless of if Tumblr was indie or not while he was there (it stopped being indie when he left by the sounds of things), his current job is "indie developer" so that's what he calls himself.

    • @TheRealCountDancula
      @TheRealCountDancula 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +certee You're right, he wasn't an indie dev working at Tumblr. But now he's self employed working on projects like Instapaper and Overcast.

    • @EyePodX
      @EyePodX 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's an indie iOS app developer, not necessarily an indie developer in a general sense.

    • @certee
      @certee 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +EyePodX Indie to me invokes a sense of a game developer versus the scary corporate world. He practically founded a corporation. His resume will allow him into many doors. That isn't Indie to me.

  • @aliedperez
    @aliedperez 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oi! back-end is where fun is! It's way more interesting than insane a-new-framework-trend-every-month front-end.

  • @manasbansal7946
    @manasbansal7946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "waste some time with..." subtle

  • @hatchera
    @hatchera 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Being in the market when it's taking off is a huge advantage" So, gotta learn all about VR. App stores and such are already flooded.

  • @lorenzocalabro4785
    @lorenzocalabro4785 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's that keyboard? :D

  • @muddi900
    @muddi900 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Overcast is still not on Android.

  • @kerberossi
    @kerberossi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy to be early!

  • @junglifox9244
    @junglifox9244 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir I have a idea to create a great apps sir plz help me

  • @bibinzacharia7577
    @bibinzacharia7577 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a +2 (higher secondary) student from Kerala, India. I have a billion usd app idea but i don't know how to build an app. What could i do for accomplishing my idea. Can anyone help me..
    thank you!!

  • @dancrooks1490
    @dancrooks1490 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is exactly what I want to do in life.

    • @Dataacid
      @Dataacid 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +daniel crooks You will regret it.

    • @SIMUN2277
      @SIMUN2277 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Dataacid why?

    • @immanuelsegol829
      @immanuelsegol829 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Dataacid LOL, why would he?

    • @nixothepaladin
      @nixothepaladin 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Dataacid Why? If you get the gist of it, it's really quite fun.

    • @kubispice3026
      @kubispice3026 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you can handle stress very well, then you could possibly love it. If you cant, then look elsewhere.

  • @TheGrooseIsLoose
    @TheGrooseIsLoose 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't figure out why he doesn't sound the same. I barely recognize his voice and I hear it all the time in podcasts.

    • @jordangreene7952
      @jordangreene7952 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Different microphone, it makes a surprisingly big difference

  • @DaneMackier_ZA
    @DaneMackier_ZA 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spring cleaning is the best :)

  • @1stepofe-noise311
    @1stepofe-noise311 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Controller : [Logic]"...any number of players take turns with the same basic rule set of shapes pieces to mix...then...the entire set the players create is shifted by 1 person over to challenge them with the other person's arrangement...its timed...whoever's in the top 50% gets a slightly tougher starting basis...the grind continues by 50% of cutting the players...until...1...remains...

  • @Seawolf159
    @Seawolf159 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    he said sometimes it's just luck, sometimes it's just being at the right place at the right time (and some other one), but these 2 are the same !? aren't they both luck!!

  • @amreladawy3784
    @amreladawy3784 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    We may spent lifetime searching for an opportunity like tumbler, and you just walked away?
    I hope that you kept some options to keep you funded.

    • @brandon-butler
      @brandon-butler 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Amr ElAdawy He's buying a Tesla, I think he's got plenty of money :)

    • @kubispice3026
      @kubispice3026 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Brandon Butler I don't know. I wonder if he requested a payout. I know he said he left before they blew up, but exactly how big the platform was when he left is still unanswered.

    • @amreladawy3784
      @amreladawy3784 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +kubi spice
      Yes, this is my question also

    • @brandon-butler
      @brandon-butler 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      kubi spice I wasn't implying he bought it with funds from Tesla. I think he gets a lot of money from selling Overcast.

    • @amreladawy3784
      @amreladawy3784 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brandon Butler
      All software people deserve better life with more money and appreciation

  • @stanleysadventres
    @stanleysadventres 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is perfect for CGPGrey.....

  • @TechXSoftware
    @TechXSoftware 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm an indie developer too :P

  • @BunnyFett
    @BunnyFett 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is he seriously younger than me? We both have similar careers, I think he's really cool. :D
    Edit: He's 5 years older than me, I just checked. He just started a few years later than I did.

  • @hacker-7214
    @hacker-7214 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Too bad instapaper is now useless cuz of apple news app. but I still love overcast though. Really smart guy, I can see he wants to be the next Mark Zukerberg

  • @corkhead0
    @corkhead0 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Programmer here, deleting code is easily the most satisfying part of my job. All those potential problems, gone! Nasty spaghetti code, gone! Copy pasted garbage, gone!

  • @DaPainterDude
    @DaPainterDude 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Marco, I just watched your video. I'm looking for a developer. I have an amazing app idea. I'm not sure how to protect my idea before speaking to a developer so they cant steal my idea. Do you have any pointers for me?

  • @mattrmay
    @mattrmay 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let the camera sit.

  • @TerryRoyer
    @TerryRoyer 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    He's only 33 too... dang.

  • @ashishkumar-pi4ns
    @ashishkumar-pi4ns 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Dude are you a app developer? I Want to start my business can you help me to develope my business android app?

  • @Ptjuusitalo
    @Ptjuusitalo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's always a bit disconcerting somehow seeing the faces of all these people whose voices you are so familiar with.

  • @martinw4445
    @martinw4445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This dude must be Stefan Molyneux's blood brother.

  • @darkmage07070777
    @darkmage07070777 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    *sigh* Wish I was smart enough to come up with stuff like Mr. Arment. Ah, well.

  • @kefka4053
    @kefka4053 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. Early. Also, love this video.

  • @shaecloud4403
    @shaecloud4403 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Twitter? ¿??

  • @lhommedelapampa9730
    @lhommedelapampa9730 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Instapaper 👍🏼

  • @meanwhile_0
    @meanwhile_0 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    that "indy" in the thumbnail

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +meanwhile It's a dog's name.

  • @AfaqSaleemChannel
    @AfaqSaleemChannel 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't get the dislikes o_O

  • @vianddirect5196
    @vianddirect5196 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I connected very well, the boring 90% stuff

  • @ChunkyChest
    @ChunkyChest 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    and now .... framework in 10 seconds lol