So sad honestly, as a fan of this channel I was equally excited for the Singed buff to see some more cool content. But I’m sure you’ll cook more content.
They did not need to nerf any of his abilities apart from the fling range and damage. None of his abilities were a problem before. Classic ooga booga lazy Rito nerf with no thought added. They see high win rate and they turn full monkey brain mode, unjustifiably nerfing everything when the real issue was the massive fling range and damage. At least we saw what Singed could have been. Now we will see what Singed will never be because we have monkeys working on the balance team.
@rayhanmuhammadputra4276 So long as it can balance him correctly, I agree with your point. If these changes can make him viable as a late game monster without making him utterly useless, I'm happy.
@@IYourGrandfather my guess is because late game he is rly bad He dominated early/mid and then late he does bad where as with singe rework he was good all round but I agree if there is an issue with singe then there should be a nerf for heim ambessa and many more
Originally, posion scaling was 30%. A year go, they buffed it to 35%, which was the only buff he recieved in his existence. Now they must think that was part of the rework or something. Monkey brain dev team.
I never got to play pre nerf Singed so getting less damage with more fling range and unstoppable feels fresh. And him SHARING the ULT now makes him an amazing support at level 3 above.
i agree, the base damage nerf, ult nerf, and the cooldown nerf (basically early game nerf) is maybe deserved by how his winrate sky rocketed and how annoying he is on early game, but the ap scaling nerf is just killing the mid and late game of this champ and made him worst in every point in the game, sure u can still win through teamfight but he is really dependent on team mates now that he just became basically a sustained damage support
with pre rework singed was playing him with lindry, warmog, rabbadon, psychic projector and riftmaker. with phase rush and max hp runes. i was doing really good in mid lane with the rework it was just broken lol
The fact every fucking time I open the game this pops up it makes me actually angry. First time I saw it I closed the game and didn't open it again for a few days. Why the actual fuck would they nerf every single stat of him? I get the rework was too much, but why would they even nerf the poison ap scaling which was a (very needed) buff a year ago, the only buff this champ recieved in 4 years. Why did they have to nerf speed? Why did they have to nerf even base damage of EVERYTHING? Champions which have been broken since release, even buffed after, permabanned everygame, and what does Singed get? Less than a day of glory. But it seems too much for the champ that has been forgotten since release. Well Viktor seems very balanced, let's buff him a bit so it can keep up with the rest of mages.
well he literally owned every single role with 70% winrate, even after nerfs he still has pretty high winrate and manages to be top1 midlane and support champion
After the hotfix i just stuck to playing him jungle, kinda ass they nerfed his damage to be even lower than before his rework, but his ganks is soo much better now, dash with e + smite nimbus cloak, and the ult sharing usually leads to a successful gank, bruiser build works best jungle too compared to full tank or full ap cause you still need clear
I went tanked singed even before this update but with a diff build, i do not know how to explain the build really but it’s more support-like in nature yet my damage is ofc worse after the update, but the E range nerf kinda pulled it back to original E range so idk
:( honestly i just stopped playing Singed. I tried playing support but i didn't like it at all. What I liked about Singed before is the choice to go full AP or tank whenever i need to. Now AP Singed is sadly gone. I told my friend that the buff was Aprils fools day done in December. It might be Riot's plan all along to nerf Singed even more. Crazy.
They reverted a buff from a year ago on his poison scaling, apart from nerfing every single base/scaling stat. I don't know the numbers prerework, but which are the stats you think that makes the rework a net positive?
3 years wait for his rework to be able to play him for a day , most damage i did with him was 83k on his rework , now i struggle to get 20k 😂😂😂 , so freaken sad.
You don’t even need to go full ap he’s a magic tank, people cooked tank builds on burst mages like ekko and one shot ap on tanks like Galio, I’m sure you can make something cool too!
Deserved nerf. He had a 70% win rate which is unheard of in this game. Even launch Hecarim/ Kindred/ Ambessa that was broken, did not have that kind of absurd winrate than this smelly junk😂
Im not complaining about them nerfing the dumb rework they created im complaining that he is worse than before if you go full ap, and I already got flamed for picking singed before the rework because he was so bad
Honestly, I play AP Singed because Peyco. I Play mid lane, and because of his mobility he can crazy roam and fast wave clear. And I think it was the best. But now? Really dont know what to build for him. So sad.. I love this champion. IDK why Riot abandon their first release champion, and keep making stupid and boring champion. Like can you make unique champion again like Singed? But Peyco I wish you keep upload Singed content..
@@gabutprojectsYT i was really hoping they would realise how they fucked it up but instead I saw spoilers about more nerfs.. they killed this champ for me I dont want to play him tanky
Only ap singed. Tank singed is better now but that was never my playstyle. Changes that ruined ap singed: -5% ap scaling on poison -25% ap scaling on fling
Let me tell you that i played him after nerf but i change the runes to tanky but with ap build every game doing high damage and mvp Grasp + second wind + overgrowth + and the shield + triumph or last stand or any Item : rod of ages + armor boot + infinity orb + rabadon cuz infinity scale with rabadon +riftmaker + options as u want Spell : flash + ghost I didn't try phase rush for the tanky build but i will do today
@PecyoWR yes and its hurt me alot, imagine climb to master in one day and then the nerf released, but try this build and im sure you will not feel different maybe a lil bit, yesterday i made in one game 74k damage...
He wasn't bad in high challenger I encountered a lot singed player But let's be honest what did you expect to happen I was playing ww top the moment he was dropped in the game and believe me when i say it he was trash and i made it work with ap build But because of the random rework they did to him He's always ban/ picked And i was trying to hit rank one with him rip my dream
Yeah its fcking stupid why nerf his ap he can one shot cause he do full ap buil like any full ap will one shot u ill understand the range nerf of third the other nerf is just dumb hotfix reduce number panic riot thing bullshit
A mage cant just pass yr team once and kill all of them that's why hes not fair to play against U can't outrun him either without the fact that if he flips y late game yr dead regardless of what y are before the dash at least y had the chance to do something But with it it made it impossible
Worst nerfs of all time His ap scaling on first ability is worst than b4 the rework The only reason he is still ok is because of the dash and little dmg on his mega adhesive He would be good if they nerfed everything but kept the ult to go to 100 ap Mr and armor Or keep his first ability and mega adhesive the same but nerf fling and ult But nerfing everything was just insane Sure he had a 76% wr but I feel the nerf was just too excessive considering he was always so bad for so long...and now victor is running amuck doing insane dmg If they wanted singed bad forever just say that riot Don't get my hopes up to then nerf bro less than 24 hours later😂😭 And the nerf to fling range was the worst thing in history It's a dash but....you gotta be smelling the enemies perfume to actually make it connect
Despite being an avid singed player myself, I’m completely fine with these nerfs. He’s completely fine when “trash tier” because he’s never actually trash. Crazy wave clear, one of the strongest cc abilities in the game, and a 4K gold finished item worth of buffs starting at level 6 will make him always usable. There was a reason he had such a high pick rate in high elo even before they made him a walking war crime with that gas damage. Having him broken was a much needed reminder that he’s weak because the game is absolutely MISERABLE when he’s strong. I wish they’d at least kept his early game Q damage high(er), and his original pocket watch passive would’ve solved so many balancing problems of his. But oh well, still a MASSIVE buff. Great video as always my guy. Ever since the nerfs I’ve been primarily playing ability haste singed jg with cosmic rush. I’ve been trying ability haste boots too for the summoner+flip haste and it’s worked damn well with tankier finished builds like Gauntlet Sunfire Zeke’s (crazy burn damage and ability haste). My favorite is still AP by far though, rabadon cosmic soulstealer item order has worked best for me. You get crazy damage in lane where you have the luxury to wait for cooldowns, haste and speed for objective fights and peeling once your opponents get strong, and then insane Mejais value once you can confirm you’ll get passive value. Still rockin’ a respectable 70% ranked wr in lower master (I’m a very casual player, only time I peaked chal was during my crippling AP nunu midlane addiction). I think Singed feels fine, but if you want to switch champs for a while, or permanently (Sion o7) then of course you shouldn’t force yourself. And if you need suggestions… AP NUNU alright see ya.
Yeah I really had high hopes for the singed rework I think it pissed me off watching how much worse he is while commentating.. hope it was still entertaining to watch 😅
Well deserved nerf. Singed is very broken no other champions in league of legends history has 70% win rate. Stop crying about the nerf. Singed got a dash for the E which is already enough
Of course he was broken after they overbuffed him for no reason. If they just added the dash everything would be fine but now they made his scalings way worse than before the rework where he was already a low tier pick for baron lane.
So sad honestly, as a fan of this channel I was equally excited for the Singed buff to see some more cool content.
But I’m sure you’ll cook more content.
Might have to go for support singed now 💀
singed had 70% winrate for a day and now he's back to useless forever xD
They did not need to nerf any of his abilities apart from the fling range and damage. None of his abilities were a problem before. Classic ooga booga lazy Rito nerf with no thought added. They see high win rate and they turn full monkey brain mode, unjustifiably nerfing everything when the real issue was the massive fling range and damage.
At least we saw what Singed could have been. Now we will see what Singed will never be because we have monkeys working on the balance team.
@@hamzie1010 100% agree. At least keep the q AP scaling and reduce ult bonus stat from 100 to 90 (max ult point)
@rayhanmuhammadputra4276 So long as it can balance him correctly, I agree with your point. If these changes can make him viable as a late game monster without making him utterly useless, I'm happy.
Bro had such a delicate early game, and now they shattered him with those base damage, and the AP% was salty in his mid and late game, eeeeewwww
Why not nerf Warwick then?
Because he didn't hit 70% wr in all lanes
Cause Warwick actually just became more comfortable.
@@IYourGrandfather my guess is because late game he is rly bad
He dominated early/mid and then late he does bad where as with singe rework he was good all round but I agree if there is an issue with singe then there should be a nerf for heim ambessa and many more
@blaze56701 and Ekko, for me that is perma banned. I don't wanna see him anymore
they could've just nerf the base damage of his poison. that 5% ap ratio nerf hurts alot
Yeah thats the worst part about the nerf..
Originally, posion scaling was 30%. A year go, they buffed it to 35%, which was the only buff he recieved in his existence. Now they must think that was part of the rework or something. Monkey brain dev team.
maybe full ad is the way now
@@hippoboii3401 😂😂😂😂
u must be a genius
People like you change the meta
When I saw some numbers being less before the revamp I was like wow rip.
RIP AP Singed. I got one game in at least. They will never take that away from me.
I never got to play pre nerf Singed so getting less damage with more fling range and unstoppable feels fresh. And him SHARING the ULT now makes him an amazing support at level 3 above.
i agree, the base damage nerf, ult nerf, and the cooldown nerf (basically early game nerf) is maybe deserved by how his winrate sky rocketed and how annoying he is on early game, but the ap scaling nerf is just killing the mid and late game of this champ and made him worst in every point in the game, sure u can still win through teamfight but he is really dependent on team mates now that he just became basically a sustained damage support
you can just hear the pain in this man's voice
Riot broke my heart 💔
with pre rework singed was playing him with lindry, warmog, rabbadon, psychic projector and riftmaker. with phase rush and max hp runes. i was doing really good in mid lane with the rework it was just broken lol
I tried going coquerer for the damage loss… works but why would I play singed when I can play Lilia
The fact every fucking time I open the game this pops up it makes me actually angry. First time I saw it I closed the game and didn't open it again for a few days. Why the actual fuck would they nerf every single stat of him? I get the rework was too much, but why would they even nerf the poison ap scaling which was a (very needed) buff a year ago, the only buff this champ recieved in 4 years. Why did they have to nerf speed? Why did they have to nerf even base damage of EVERYTHING?
Champions which have been broken since release, even buffed after, permabanned everygame, and what does Singed get? Less than a day of glory. But it seems too much for the champ that has been forgotten since release.
Well Viktor seems very balanced, let's buff him a bit so it can keep up with the rest of mages.
well he literally owned every single role with 70% winrate, even after nerfs he still has pretty high winrate and manages to be top1 midlane and support champion
I know he is good as tank, just saying they killed full ap
@@PecyoWR well, after rework it would be impossible to keep singed balanced while making ap build viable
Nerf ambessa ?????
putting him back in his place fr
After the hotfix i just stuck to playing him jungle, kinda ass they nerfed his damage to be even lower than before his rework, but his ganks is soo much better now, dash with e + smite nimbus cloak, and the ult sharing usually leads to a successful gank, bruiser build works best jungle too compared to full tank or full ap cause you still need clear
Searing crown is my fav item for jungle clear
I went tanked singed even before this update but with a diff build, i do not know how to explain the build really but it’s more support-like in nature yet my damage is ofc worse after the update, but the E range nerf kinda pulled it back to original E range so idk
But anyway, Merry Christmas
:( honestly i just stopped playing Singed. I tried playing support but i didn't like it at all.
What I liked about Singed before is the choice to go full AP or tank whenever i need to. Now AP Singed is sadly gone. I told my friend that the buff was Aprils fools day done in December. It might be Riot's plan all along to nerf Singed even more. Crazy.
He's not as broken as he was but he is definitely better then he was before the Buff so it's a net positive
Not for full ap singed :(
They reverted a buff from a year ago on his poison scaling, apart from nerfing every single base/scaling stat. I don't know the numbers prerework, but which are the stats you think that makes the rework a net positive?
3 years wait for his rework to be able to play him for a day , most damage i did with him was 83k on his rework , now i struggle to get 20k 😂😂😂 , so freaken sad.
its still no problem for u, and some people, still gonna dominate in the games
If anyone is dominating with ap singed now he would have done way better on any other ap champ.. its playing with a handicap now
the normal singed before the buff i was using just fine I have a 67 win rate
You don’t even need to go full ap he’s a magic tank, people cooked tank builds on burst mages like ekko and one shot ap on tanks like Galio, I’m sure you can make something cool too!
i think the ult and fling nerfs are deserved. Q nerf is a bit too much.
The Yi Zeke Build Still Good?
Yes very good, just played 4 games with it
Happy holidays!!
He was 67% win rate in one day… I’d say he was a little too strong
No doubt. I dont know what they smoked before the rework, I said he is broken in the last video too 😅
totally, but that doesn't justify nerfing every stat in the champ to let it worse than it was pre rework.
well good news btw
i'm plat and i only play jungle, i find it very entertaining to see you play singed, would it be a bad idea to become mono singed out of nowhere?
Mono meaning like one trick? Singed is good now but for me so far mostly with a tank build so ap might not do too well
They just kill him make him useless again ... Tk u riot
Deserved nerf. He had a 70% win rate which is unheard of in this game. Even launch Hecarim/ Kindred/ Ambessa that was broken, did not have that kind of absurd winrate than this smelly junk😂
Im not complaining about them nerfing the dumb rework they created im complaining that he is worse than before if you go full ap, and I already got flamed for picking singed before the rework because he was so bad
Warwick on pc, now singed in wild rift. Riot really have no idea what are they doing
Honestly, I play AP Singed because Peyco. I Play mid lane, and because of his mobility he can crazy roam and fast wave clear. And I think it was the best. But now? Really dont know what to build for him. So sad.. I love this champion. IDK why Riot abandon their first release champion, and keep making stupid and boring champion. Like can you make unique champion again like Singed?
But Peyco I wish you keep upload Singed content..
@@gabutprojectsYT i was really hoping they would realise how they fucked it up but instead I saw spoilers about more nerfs.. they killed this champ for me I dont want to play him tanky
I start zhin on blue😂
How have riot ruined singed
Only ap singed. Tank singed is better now but that was never my playstyle.
Changes that ruined ap singed:
-5% ap scaling on poison
-25% ap scaling on fling
Let me tell you that i played him after nerf but i change the runes to tanky but with ap build every game doing high damage and mvp
Grasp + second wind + overgrowth + and the shield + triumph or last stand or any
Item : rod of ages + armor boot + infinity orb + rabadon cuz infinity scale with rabadon +riftmaker + options as u want
Spell : flash + ghost
I didn't try phase rush for the tanky build but i will do today
You can still make it work but just from the numbers its less damage than before..
@PecyoWR yes and its hurt me alot, imagine climb to master in one day and then the nerf released, but try this build and im sure you will not feel different maybe a lil bit, yesterday i made in one game 74k damage...
He wasn't bad in high challenger
I encountered a lot singed player
But let's be honest what did you expect to happen
I was playing ww top the moment he was dropped in the game and believe me when i say it he was trash and i made it work with ap build
But because of the random rework they did to him
He's always ban/ picked
And i was trying to hit rank one with him rip my dream
4 days and nerf W riot
Yeah its fcking stupid why nerf his ap he can one shot cause he do full ap buil like any full ap will one shot u ill understand the range nerf of third the other nerf is just dumb hotfix reduce number panic riot thing bullshit
A mage cant just pass yr team once and kill all of them that's why hes not fair to play against
U can't outrun him either without the fact that if he flips y late game yr dead regardless of what y are before the dash at least y had the chance to do something
But with it it made it impossible
@@dreamdust5121 echo left the group
Why don't you use the number one players build? "Except the runes" Rylais deadmans
I like to do my own builds, I was top 1 singed myself last season so why not :D
Game 3 was NOT tank... you built 1 item with armor
@@silverwindfive757 for a Person that was used to building Infinitiy into liandry and rabadon, rylais into riftmaker is a tank build haha
Уровень английского, как на порнхабе
Bold statement for writing a comment in foreign language on an english video 😂
@PecyoWR well, you understood what I said, don't you?)
Yep thanks to google
@@PecyoWR lol
Worst nerfs of all time
His ap scaling on first ability is worst than b4 the rework
The only reason he is still ok is because of the dash and little dmg on his mega adhesive
He would be good if they nerfed everything but kept the ult to go to 100 ap Mr and armor
Or keep his first ability and mega adhesive the same but nerf fling and ult
But nerfing everything was just insane
Sure he had a 76% wr but I feel the nerf was just too excessive considering he was always so bad for so long...and now victor is running amuck doing insane dmg
If they wanted singed bad forever just say that riot
Don't get my hopes up to then nerf bro less than 24 hours later😂😭
And the nerf to fling range was the worst thing in history
It's a dash but....you gotta be smelling the enemies perfume to actually make it connect
Nah Viktor feels so balanced. Lowering a tank to 25% HP with one ability feels right. Nerfing Singed was obviously the correct option. /s
nerf rahkan when?
I just rush mejis to 1v9. Coinflip
Mejais rush on singed is next Level maniac 😂 i die less on every other champion in the game
They nerfed my dear ap twitch jg too i had 73% wr in 300 games😂Rip lil rat hopefully he will get a buff to see him back on adc role
Ap twitch jungle was crazy op i remember it was amazing
Heeee ssssooooo baaadddddd. Now
Despite being an avid singed player myself, I’m completely fine with these nerfs. He’s completely fine when “trash tier” because he’s never actually trash. Crazy wave clear, one of the strongest cc abilities in the game, and a 4K gold finished item worth of buffs starting at level 6 will make him always usable. There was a reason he had such a high pick rate in high elo even before they made him a walking war crime with that gas damage. Having him broken was a much needed reminder that he’s weak because the game is absolutely MISERABLE when he’s strong. I wish they’d at least kept his early game Q damage high(er), and his original pocket watch passive would’ve solved so many balancing problems of his. But oh well, still a MASSIVE buff. Great video as always my guy.
Ever since the nerfs I’ve been primarily playing ability haste singed jg with cosmic rush. I’ve been trying ability haste boots too for the summoner+flip haste and it’s worked damn well with tankier finished builds like Gauntlet Sunfire Zeke’s (crazy burn damage and ability haste). My favorite is still AP by far though, rabadon cosmic soulstealer item order has worked best for me. You get crazy damage in lane where you have the luxury to wait for cooldowns, haste and speed for objective fights and peeling once your opponents get strong, and then insane Mejais value once you can confirm you’ll get passive value. Still rockin’ a respectable 70% ranked wr in lower master (I’m a very casual player, only time I peaked chal was during my crippling AP nunu midlane addiction). I think Singed feels fine, but if you want to switch champs for a while, or permanently (Sion o7) then of course you shouldn’t force yourself. And if you need suggestions… AP NUNU alright see ya.
It sure is a massive buff to tank singed, thats just not my jam 😅
@ DONT PLAY TANK, NEVER BOW TO SOCIETY. REJECT CIVILIZATION, VIOLATE THE UN CHARTER
You sound so sad/tired this video...
Yeah I really had high hopes for the singed rework I think it pissed me off watching how much worse he is while commentating.. hope it was still entertaining to watch 😅
@PecyoWR It was, it just showed your passion for the champ
Well deserved nerf. Singed is very broken no other champions in league of legends history has 70% win rate. Stop crying about the nerf. Singed got a dash for the E which is already enough
Of course he was broken after they overbuffed him for no reason. If they just added the dash everything would be fine but now they made his scalings way worse than before the rework where he was already a low tier pick for baron lane.
Not fire this time
😭
:(
I believe you can climb to master II at least everyone start playing good at master I you can abuse them easily because they relly like to chase kill
Yes I could, but singed is just no fun too me anymore right now. I dont enjoy playing him tanky
meta slaves when the 72% winrate champion is actually balanced:
Lmao singed was meta for one day because riot overbuffed him now he is back to c tier 😂
Calling singed meta is one of the funniest things I've heard
He's not even a tier for 2 years lol...
@@tb3099he was meta for like 3 days lol. Every single ranked game, everyone were banning him 😂
neat. I'm early
First to hear me rant 👀
And here i was thinking maybe riot will give us a good singed skin with this nice rework but guess what happens🥲