There is no other competitive game (online or not) that rewards bad plays. And there shouldnt exist one. Wildrift should delete their rank system if thats how they'll continue to manage it, because it discourages competition. It's contradictory to have a competing mode and at the same time encourage bad players. They have a good system in LoL, why didnt they just port it to WR, idk.
I 100% agree, my previous video about wild rift got a lot of hate but my main point was - I have played 100s and 100s of online multiplayer games and I have never experienced a ranked/online system like what Riot use. it is utterly broken. I just started league ranked mode, i don't know. I am in Iron of course but there is still people going 0-8 after 10 minutes which just cost the entire game which is annoying. I have been working on my ganks and playing as Udyr I average 1 laner kill every 5 minute and usually i am around 3 kills, 0 deaths and 1-2 assist in 12 minutes so I am doing my job but we still lose games because of players who shouldn't be in ranked at all hahaha but this is bottom of the barrell i suppose ha
@@JustPlatBro This one game was really a horrible experience but if you've been grinding both games, its not like Wildrift is better but at the very least the suffering is less considering its a shorter duration game and you have fortitude. If anything, I think Platinum below in PC should have fortitude. Even a challenger would lose in Emerald (many high elo streames have experienced this) even if there's "supposedly" an extremely huge gap in individual skill
The ranked system is absolute garbage and the only people who climb consistently to high ranks are playing 5q or duo/trio. Solo que is just a horrific experience below master, but then one you get to master, youll never be in a true "solo" que lobby again you will always be with and against duos/trios. So it gets harder in that regard as well. Even in GM people will troll and do stuff like this though. Ive had a singed top laner multiple times in gm games named nutsack run around and do nothing. 0-10 kda provide no value to the team at all... and hes grandmaster...
It is quite laughable and an obvious sign of a boosting algorithm/busted mm system when you're having 0.8 KDA low GPM players in master/GM, while most of the high KDA and GPM ones are either 5 man teams maphacking and wintrading in challenger or permastuck between memerald and diamond.. The day before the new season started and only normal ques were available I got matched with a premade challenger duo in basic PvP, the two of them went 6-22 in a 15 minute game.. checking the profiles they've both played their main champions, are mostly playing together.. the adc has a kda of 1.2 while the sup is under 1.. but they do average 800+ games a season, so guess they deserve the challenger rank according to the algorithm. And the enemy duo clapping their cheeks were a plat and a memerald player..
Everyone has bad games, but i legit see more macro from Platinum than Emerald players. I understand not knowing wave states, but team wiping and going for farm instead of objective is mental.
I am a GM jungle player and I am still experiencing the same thing very frequently. 0 communication, taking roles that aren’t theirs without consent and toxic behaviours are incentivized since no matter how rude and bad of a player you are, elo system will make sure you stay at 50% win rate. People can be as bad as they can be and still climb through massive amount of matches. It just takes away the fun of the game and the true status of attaining a high rank. Imagine just coming off work, load up the game wanting to relax while kicking some ass, and then these disgusting people show up and ruin the entire experience. I wonder why this game has less and less people now.
I am a support main and I play jungle almost every game despite hating the role to my core, due to 4 random players on the team with little to no game knowledge in mid elo. One way you can tell someone has game knowledge is when they wait for their jungler to kill the buffs and not stealing the buff from their jungler.
@@lancedonomie3523 oh yeah man. Nothing worse in the mid game when people steal your calls because they are behind when they would get more gold by just farming a lane. Proper idiot move
Play jg till emerald and go back to your role I did that. Main adc until I get to master was thinking of grinding until I see master elo solo rank is more fked up then diamond or emerald
Oh my god that thing drives me crazyyyyyy I just don't grasp the amount of shit you have to have inside your head and your person as a whole to do that WHEN YOU SHOULD KNOW, MORE THAN ANYTHING IF YOURE ALREADY PLAT OR EMERALD, THAT THE JGL SHARES THE FUCKING BUFF. I start sweating only thinking about this ahahaha
Ex wild rift challenger here (season 9), no matter the elo, if there’s a teammate trying their best to make your team lose (Ex; blitz hooking jg camps so they can’t farm), it’s almost impossible to win, I agree. The thing is, the likelihood of this happening is very low and statistically it should happen more often to the enemy team than yours (if you even notice). My point is, if u just wanna have fun then yeah, this sucks, just report them and try to move on, but, if you’re goal is to reach a certain rank, then don’t let these games discourage you. As long as you keep focusing on improving, you’ll climb and that’s it, I don’t see the need to try these strategies deliberately losing games to climb? Just let those games be statistical anomalies.
@@pinata8488 I know, I think the start of a season is always a mess because of higher ranked players absolutely clapping normal gold/plat players which just highlights how had they are
I get folks in every rank akin to the blitz support who just hooks minions constantly, completely worthless. The game isn't even that fun enough to try into, I'm gonna have to leave this guild then try actually achieving my in game goals.
I've been ignoring ranked for a few seasons now, basically only been playing aram because i find the matchmaking and damage balancing in wild rift atrocious. I used to be master but dropped down to gold 4 when i was inactive, so i was pretty surprised blind pick was a thing when i played a couple ranked games, on top of that you don't drop down if you lose, turning silver and gold rank into iron basically. My first match as a jngl i got a nunu mid that stole baron lane from a kayle that couldnt protect herself from ekko in mid at all (understandably so). The nice thing i'd say is that if you get a couple good scores and get an MVP you gain 2 rank up points, so you can get out of gold rather quickly. So i just spammed ambessa jungle but it was still a bad experience. Everyone at low elo just hyper focus on getting kills. Nobody listens to pings or helps with objective. I almost lost to baron because the only one that end up helping me was a seraphine support but she ended up leaving me to chase a low hp baron laner. I was relying on her heals to sustain and i almost died until the midlaner came in to help just in time lol. Honestly if Riot really wanna go this route and babysit the early ranks then atleast lock champs to their respective lanes so you don't get stupid champ choices in your team.
@@JustPlatBro bro master yi is sure more broken then pc but still in a team of enemies with full cc you can't do shit in blind pick i will pick lux or cait and i will against any master yi player anytime of the year there are more broken jungle players but sure yo with 3 items is more broken then pc counterpart
@@Darsam88 that is the problem team feeding yi but what i have seen through many games is people use auto target all the time they don't target manually
I reached master last season and man the beginning of that season was a hell in hell, no match was normal there will be either a troll, or a map hacker in enemy team. trying to climb is hard with people like these wishr it gets better but i don't think so with latest patches
I am in Emerald for last 2 seasons. Currently on this season, I easily get promoted to diamond. Then, I climb my way up to Master, now match making is actually the same with your experience. I easily got 5 marks, then it's all defeat down back to diamond. I carried every game, but one winning lane against four seams imposible.
Im a sovereign player playing since open beta , the game was P E R F E C T till the first 5 seasons , we had till then -10 +15 to bad players LP gains in Diamond , master+ was insanely educational only good players would exist there , but because all this hardstuck people perma complained about this they changed it to marks and this useless matchmaking , even in master plus rn game is terrible we play with 1kda masters its just absurd , great video with great emphasis on the problem *Ps if you were good u would get +15 - 10 it had to clearly do with ur total mmr
@@tankster27 Yeah the guy you're replying to is just quoting the LoL system. It wasn't like that in wildrift ever, also sovereign is only there for a few seasons now.
@@vincentschmitz2596actually it was like that… those were some crazy days but the - was way higher than the +. So I think if memory was correct 1 loss was equivalent to 2 wins. So that’s why they added fortitude to the complainers… now we have the s rank weirdness
so it seems like they have just brought in this mark system to encourage more casual play and attract more players... I mean i get this, but they have to bring in a new ranked system that isn't too hard to get into but something like 1. Master score of 2500+ with 5 champions 2. Level 30 required 3. 100 games played 4. some sort of new 'lane/role' score and have that as a threshold 5. bring LP back 100%
I did an experiment to see if there was a sweet spot in terms of KDA where i get matched with good players. My main account i have a high KDA and im constantly matched with trash. I don't have it in me to have to carry every single game. It's not fun. My other account has something like a 3 KDA and the quality of matches is far more superior. A lot more balanced on both sides. It's obviously anecdotal. It's not fun when the game forces you to either hard carry or be carried. Good players should never be punished. The system is broken.
There's only one middle solution to fix this. Riot wants bad players to be mixed up with good players so they can learn the game. But good players can't climb in rank this way. The only solution is to make climbing in rank based on player's performance in matches instead of being based on winning or losing.
I want to resonate what youre saying here. That poor matchmaking that you can get put into, its hapened to me before and in previous seasons it would "reset" until i performed really well and then near the end of the season i would again find myself in the "loser" queue. However last season and this season it didn't "reset. My matches have been absolutely TERRIBLE for more than an entire season now. Season before last, i made Master at a normal pace. Last season i was in emerald for THE ENTIRE SEASON. My matchmaking is so bad that i have lost friends on my friends list and others decline matches with me because they know my matches will have at least ine afk/griefer/inter. I am NOT an amazing player but for solo q ADC i can do well provided everyone in the tram is doing the bare minimum. Bare. Minimum. The thing that really bothers me is that Riot has All the information and stats on how people are playing. Matchmaking shouldn't ever be this way and ranking shouldn't be based on win/lose marks. Every role has a focus and ranking should be more based on individual performance. When you have two teams with similar performance are against each other the game makes more sense. Somply putting someone whos "winning more" on a team with people that are "winning less" is absurd.
yeah man, the season has started and honestly it has been probably the worst experience i have had playing the game. Either you smash through the team or they smash you haha. Everyone talks about 'carrying' but it is so much easier said than done especially when people constantly steal team mates farms
11:17 Your can't think of Wild Rift ranks the same as League of Legends ranks. In Wild Rift not matter what you do, if you play enough you get to challenger. Obviously most people can't play 12 hours a day so if you play too bad you can't realistically achieve it, but in theory it's possible. Saw someone on reddit with 3k games in one season with horrible stats reached challenger. I understand that riot needs to make the game appealing to casuals, that's why the fortitude thing etc exists, so you will always sort of climb, but at the same time I feel it's frustrating that I cannot get into higher ranks with just 3 games played per day, because of the way matchmaking is designed in Wild Rift.
Yeah so true man. I play 1-3 games a day so I completely get your frustration man. Just seems bonkers that you will eventually get promoted if you play enough games. I think they should bring the esport back so we can get more competitive players in the game. Genuinely the best way to win and have fun is played in a team of 3 or 5 but it’s obviously easier said than done
wow, when people take your jungle honestly, they should be in silver rank because they don't know how the game works. you get more gold from just staying in your lane, it's so annoying hahaha, i just find if i do not play jungle, the jungler always costs us the game haha
It’s gotten to the point where I feel like I’m being punished for being a good player while bad actors are continuously rewarded or are given a mere slap on the wrist. Their remake system is a joke and literally half of my games get approved player reports but they just get 26 champ score deduction (meanwhile, I lose more than that by actually trying in a full game).
I've literally mained every role to see which gives me greater influence on the games that I win but regardless the harder and better you perform the worse teammates you get as a consequence. The only way to fix this is Inting Sion tbh
Hahaha which lane do you think has the most carry potential? Jungle is great but if your team loses 2 lanes it’s most likely game over and a few dragons and ganks can’t save the game ha
I reach grandmaster and while I’m not a pro I play decent no feed farm most I can and help the jungle with objetives, but it’s quite unfair and not the fault of some ppl in diamond to get against a fricking challenger Chinese guy who will delete it even in base, I mean he reach master with a lot of effort, even myself with a lot of effort I manage to reach grandmaster and I know not all challengers are pro some of them are worse than platinum but it doesn’t feel like we are playing in a same level there’s always or a way too good guy or a guy who doesn’t even know how what to do.
So that's explains why I'm stuck at plat.... I'm a returning player and before i left the game i was master rank baron lane player... And now whenever i get promoted to plat 4 i immediately lose because of bad teammates (jinx jungle for example) and get demoted to gold again
I was wondering what was happening. I’m a master support main. I just came back to the game after a few seasons and I’m in gold. previously I would coast through from gold to diamond with a near 70% win rate now my win rate is around 50% and it’s been very slow to climb. It seems like I don’t really lose LP but at the same time it’s very hard to win streak. Even when I’m playing offensive supports and I’m performing very well and getting lots of kills my teams are just completely unsalvageable. I’m thinking about switching to playing mid until I get diamond.
Anyone else notice that once you make it to top 50 of x champion, the matchmaking entirely changes in the sense of you win multiple games in a row? I’ve had this happen to me 3 times in season 12, 13 and 14. Any time i choose x champion, I’d be matchmade into winninng queue, eventually leading to 6-7 consecutive wins with that champion. As soon as I choose a different champion, I immediately am put into losing queue. Is that normal?
I’ve noticed the opposite hahaha. Winners queue when trying out new champions in pvp. Loser queue with morons when I play my normal lane and normal champs with high mastery ha
I have quit and jumped back in a few times. Every time I come back after a long hiatus, the matchmaking is exactly the same. I get to Plat easily maining support (70-80%) getting good teammates. Once I get to Plat, like a switch, the matchmaking starts putting me with the worst teams against highly skilled opponents. It's honestly hilarious how winning and losing is largely controlled by the system. It decides when you have won enough and works against you.
The only times when LoL had reasonable ranking system was in season 1 and 2, back in the days when we just have an elo score and match based on that. The same as how chess ranking works. The problem with the current ranking system is that you gain or lose a star no matter your relative strength to your opponent and it's absurd. It also causes a massive discrepancy between your actual elo (mmr) and your rank. Happens to me all the time since I used to be high level then now back to gold after a few seasons. Gold and plat is just grandmaster and challenger trying to smurf each other out for me.
@@JustPlatBro yeah I just had a funnier experience in normal mode. Both of my team and the enemy team are entirely bots, and I realized it after 20 mins since they move randomly, almost never signal, don’t talk and have the same username pattern (something like AbcdG or Abcd100). They have insanely bad macro and sometimes ridiculously good and clearly robotic micro. I knew the game would have bots but I never thought they BOTH team except for me would’ve been bots. Anyways, turns out their bots are better mine. The score is 30-34 or smth and I contribute to 25 of my teams kill and I have zero assist (imagine). We’re definitely losing, but since they are bots, they are programmed NOT TO WIN. But my bots are too weak to push back so I’m stuck in an almost 40 mins game of not losing and not winning. They’ll get baron 3 times, and NOT PUSH LANES. Since they have the Trex but they’re programmed to not win so they can’t use it, their Trex is stuck where our blue buff is and doesn’t know where else to go. They’ll immediately stop pushing lane as soon as it’s possible to win or if they wipe us. Needless to say my bot teammates refuse to surrender as well. I had to wait till almost 40 mins for the super minions to finally take my base. Fucking hell.
It’s insane people just take your role if they don’t get it all the fucking time . I’m emerald in normal league and won 20 games straight in wild rift . But it’s so frustrating when you place mid and someone just comes mid and takes everything.
In low elo, the enemys is bots with fake "player names" and thats is the reason of the remove /All chat. You can see how they move, atack or etc. and in the "high and middle elo, have alot toxic and bad players"
@@clonosbr3015 it’s just a mess 🥲 Had a game today with all emerald players. An emerald player decided to play leona jungle and the emerald support left their lane and tried to push baron lane with me after 3 minutes. We lost 35-5 it was actually diabolical
Dude you literally said what I really happen to me all time>>>( the part where if you win a lot ur teammate start to suck even more ) I will add you we can play as duo which apparently can make a difference
I gave up on rank last season (S14), but when they released the Galio’s Aegis, I came back to test and it was a great protection program for good players. However, I’m a support main with KDA 11.2 last season with mostly S or A rating so imo, it was a good thing for me. But they removed it this season 15 (it was a test anyway) and especially during early season, you can see a massive skill gap so I stopped playing again, what an endless cycle 😂
hey dude, see i liked it but it needed refined purely because it was so easy to get an A or S as a support champion but much harder for other roles like jungle (my main), i think role protection should definitely be in but it needs a more advanced tracking system. Standing with your ADC as a support and healing them despite them going 0-10 shouldn't get you a A/S rank hahaha. The support role is so complex and it really requires a lot of map awareness that most support players really lack. Supports should be ganking nearly as much as mid
@@JustPlatBro I do agree with you that they need to adjust it for other roles. They should really make the criteria to achieve high ratings in each role to be more distinguished. But I don’t play enchanter supports ‘cause I’m soloq and 99% of the time, my adc is autofilled and plays super bad, so I always play either AP mages to carry or Tanks to make plays for my team, I hate enchanters in this meta 😂
I would say this set up has pros and cons. To clarify, I'm better than casual players and nowhere near your skill. However, as a support, I like the challenge that does come with a bad player. My Leona is still at a 60 percent win rate, though recently I have noticed what you described. Of late, I'm getting trolled more and more by a terrible dps. To keep my percentage high, I've adapted. I've learned how to turn support into ads
Everyone goes back to Gold or Plat meaning Master Elo and Gold elo players get mixed up into games. Gets easier as u get past Plat. But yh the system where they expect u to carry if ur doing well is annoying
I TOTALLY AGREE, IF YOU KEEP WINNING at game #5 matchmaking will give you the worst teammates, this is also my issue for the long time why Riot is doing this. This is the worst part of this game.
My KDA every season is 5-8, but i rarely get past plat. Last season i got to plat1 then lost 4 of 26 game with 15-45 kills and little turret damage. While aegis was on it was ok, but when it was removed, i just dropped. Tried split push, nope. Enemy can 3v4 my team at objective and send 2 after me.
i know the feeling dude, all the people who have 1000s of hours are just like ' a good player can carry a team', but you have to be REALLY REALLY good to be able to carry every single game ha
@JustPlatBro the people in diamond or higher typically have 500 + games and are only there because they can play 10 games a day. There are some exceptions, but being told to git gud by someone with the same win rate but less of a life than me is also why I'm probably done with the game. And after removing banning in gold just makes it borderline unplayable
Nah dude, tbh you are the problem. Im sorry but its the truth. Dont say most of the people that climb to diamond are those that play 500+ games per season cause its just not true. If you rarely get past platinum in this game you are just not good bro. And more specifically, you are in the elo you deserve. I dont understand why you guys think you should be in a higher elo.
I guess I deserve to stay in gold then despite platinum players and above instant surrendering. 60% of my games being A rated or better with 20% MVP/SVP and a 40% win rate. Yeah. I deserve to stay in gold. *faceplams*
@@tankster27 thats different from what the original comment said. He said he RARELY get pass plat in different seasons. Thats not the same as having a lose streak. If its just a lose streak you may not deserve to be in gold. If its consistent then ofc you deserve it. You shouldnt be in plat if you CONSISTENTLY fail on carrying golds. Besides, now you cant even lose marks on gold and below and if you get an S you get two marks, so reaching plat is extremely easy. Edit: also season just started, how many games could you possibly have played? 20 tops? Its too soon. You need more to reach a conclusion. Cant conclude anything with 20 games.
The latest update made ranked even worse. They removed banning and picking in gold and under. I've never had so many braindead teammates before. I keep spamming focus on objective or farm and don't fight. What do they do? They chase too far and die. They don't rush to dragon when there's just enough time to get it before other team. They leave lane at the worst times. This is platinum within the same week of latest update....
That's so true. I just mute everyone and play along. I played senna sup. And the game goes 40min. I had over 200 stacks on her. And I got lucky to stole the baron. To win this match.
I started playing the game 3 days ago (I've peaked GM in LoL PC), what I've learned is that you play against bots from Iron all the way to Gold, they have the same pattern while playing the game. Once I got to Plat, you know that you are dealing with real people now, and they play horribly, they could be bronze player in PC, fighting for nothing and blaming each other while diying 10 times in less than 10 minutes. Probably going to drop the game, but I hope it gets better, it is almost impossible to carry games like that.
they might have changed it, it didn't used to be bots in gold but that wouldn't surprised me. I played a game with youtuber who was smurfing and those games were 100% bots, i think if you're too good it gives you bots ha
I began playing S2. This has always been the case with team mates. I'm a jungle main hardstuck gm, but I carry a good 90% of the games I play. The thing that I like the most is when I'm ever on a role, the harder the opponents are, like a test of your own skill. But at the same time the game sucks ass because it mostly feels like I'm playing the game 1v9... Higher up you'll start to see people that are boosted or bought accounts on the regular.
@@JustPlatBro Yes. i've been a diamond player for around 6 seasons and it gets so much worse the higher you go. Its nearly impossible to rank up once you make it to diamond IV becase of the ranking system. I have been playing rift since it launched and after season 9 i've given up any desired to go past Diamond as its not even enjoyable to play. I have also seen a lot of Master players complain of this same issues so it does not get better the higher you go.
Bro I noticed this. Sometimes I’ll jungle and somebody is following me trying to get the last hit on farms and people just throwing etc. I also keep getting even worse team mates with every game I win.
I didn’t know the game actually threw people under the bus like that… it explains quite a lot actually. I was Diamond II once. Come next season I was trying to get to Master however I was trapped in Emerald like no tomorrow cause my teammates refused to group or go for objectives. I also played bad at times, not all games will be good. But man, losing 5 games in a row hurt and I couldn’t seem to find a chance, so I left the game for a while. My WR usually stayed around 60%. I just restarted so I’m Gold I now since I just began a week ago. My WR is around 54%. Whether I play good or bad it seems to be like winning 2, losing 2, sometimes W3, L2… however the game helps you rank when you’re low ranked so yeah, it’s normal to find bad players still in Plat and Emerald
Was sovereign top 100 on server last season and i can confirm game is absolutely rigged. Last season the we did get galios aegis for a short time which was a beta test on a system that would prevent u from losing marks if you got an A or S rating. They have since removed it tho and im hoping they bring it back but i wont be taking rank seriously until they do.
It’s also wild that many people said they do this just because they has nothing to do in their time and the more his team get pissed off the more they enjoy doing this
I play in masters sometimes GM In those ranks people don't know how to play other lanes. So basically if queue JG, another JG will get queued as ADC and throw. that's 50% of the games.
I've returned to wr this season after not playing more than a year and most games in gold/plat/em either so horrible that team was chaotically running all over the map and dying one by one with 1-2 players who were literally do nothing whole game, or team was so good that by the end we had like x3, x4 more kills and like 30-50% more gold. I don't know how it can be called ranked. I mean I'm okay to be low elo and not moving up quickly but I want to have nice matches where both teams perform on a similar level, it's just sad, the game has such beautiful mechanics and such poor ranked matchmaking.
The reason is the mmr system. If you are a good player with high kda the system will screw you by matching you with 4 weak players so enemy team gets 5 average players not as good as you but better than your ally.
I was diamond on league on pc and I've been playing aram on wild rift and it feels like it forces you to a 50% wr not by making the enemies more difficult but by literally giving you an inter on your team every game that goes 0/15 in 10 mins I'll be at a 90% wr for a long series of games after reset then it will start giving me inters every game on a giant loss streak every reset where I'm guaranteed svp or 2nd svp every game I play but feel like my mmr is somehow staying low for my team. I'm actually confused on how to increase aram mmr on wild rift since on pc it would very quickly start putting you in lobbies with only high mmr aram players that pretty much never pick champs like talon and prio supp adc tank on every team and not run in and fight/die for no reason which almost every wild rift aram game has at least 1 player that is much lower rank that runs it down all game coinflipping you to a 50% wr while you stack svps. The aram rank system on wild rift also makes no sense how it goes up every game on losses and at least pc mmr checker sites would show you real aram rank despite not having a rank listed in game.
yep i 100% agree and what makes it worse is that the bad person has lost so many games and it has decided it wants you to carry them so they keep their rank. like wtf
i really feel for you, i got hardly demoted from diamond and stayed long in emerald due to being matched with horrible teammates and hi-elo moving enemies. I play on auto fill then boom!
I Played from gold to emerald relatively well this season, until 3 days ago out of nowhere they started matching me with subjects who didn't set on targets, they were picking weird things like 2 or 3 ADC on the same team, always without a tank. In three days playing (we are on a holiday in my country these days) I have lost every game I have played and the matchmaking is getting worse, every game comes out one, 2 or 3 subjects who do not know what they do... and I already go down from emerald 4 with 3 marks to platinum 2 and I know that I will not win the next game I start... there are 13 losses in a row it is impressive.
The exact same thing has happened to me. Doesn’t matter what I do, what lane I’m in. The other 2 lanes are lost in 8/9 minutes. It’s just so annoying. I’ve been demoted to plat 4. I started with a 7 match win streak in plat and I’m on a 8 match loss streak now and so so sick
I've only done 3 rank games this season. Won every single one. I am skeptical however. For 4 straight seasons, I have gotten performances where i hit an A or better 60% of the time, the MVP/SVP rate being 20% of my games. I'm balling. For 4 straight seasons, my win rate for rank has been between 35% to 45%. I can hit platinum easily. I cannot stay in platinum. The rooms are night and day. Platinum is more competent than gold players. Yet platinum usually has an ego and surrenders. In other words, I'm a boomer stuck at Gold 1. I demoted there multiple times. Sad part about this is that 7 seasons ago i climbed to masters only autofilling. Autofill gave me jungle only until i hit masters, and there i just could not keep up. I want that wall back, not what we currently have now. This aegis system may benefit some people. Not me. I'll be one of the few players that's boosted. I do not want to be falsely banned due to a low win rate.
Sounds like a difficult situation to be in. It might help you if you can get some one to play duos with? As my channel gets bigger and I can creates polls etc, I’m considering making a discord or something for people who need help and advice but can play in groups to make the matches fairer sp stay tuned my dude
I had no idea matchmaking was like this. When I was pushing rank hard, I used to keep telling myself that if I can get to the higher ranks, I’ll finally get people who can work with me or people I can work with. I guess I really do just gotta learn how to carry games :/
Tips: you can easily solo carry until emerald. Frm emerald-diamond, you need to play duo/trio. In master and above, it is still better to play with your friends, but playing solo queue isn't as bad as in lower rank.
The funny thing about this for me is that, I play against better opponents in blind pick than I do in Ranked. Im plat-emerald and I go against diamond and above most of the time. Really debating if I should do blind pick content instead of ranked content…
Wild rift ranked match making is so incredibly stupid it’s embarrassing. Bc I do so well as a lower ELO person they throw me in matches with Diamond players and then my teammates are also probably still dudes from emerald or lower tier diamond players. It’s so crazy
😂welcomed to the club. Been playing here since 2012 and the ranking system never made any sense to me at all. Everyone's been complaining about it since the dawn of time. I just learned not to aboid ranking at all cost because it doesn't really make my wanna play the game when all i want is to have a good time😢
i've been grinding for 3 days and cant even get to diamond 1. Every time i get to diamond 2, 5 crystal, they gave me literally bot, afk or even troll. i just cant even get to diamond 2 6 crystal once. Please helpppp i am so mentally tired.
Evef if i get svp, doing more damage than my team and even than enemy team, preventing shield doesnt work and it keep taking my marks, can someone explain how that fucckcing system works?
My problem is that i am currently only getting queued with last season masters and grand masters, while i have peaked in diamond 2, it just feels unfair and unfun, because i rarely do anything and it feels like i am just there to complete a team.
It’s either you’re on a really good team or you got the derp team and people are way more toxic in these higher ranked matches with people that rightfully be in like silver gold
I've been playing since s2-s3 and holllllly smokes really the last few seasons have been horrific with ranked. I'm a support main, can do any roles, and I stay away from jungle because it's such a thankless job
i just introduce wild rift to my friend, and he is so bad that he lost himself in the map. its like a 2 year child playing, he is completly lost in the game. but someway he is in gold right now staying 0/11/1 in every matchup. so yes, its broken
i mean, you dont drop ranks in iron/silver/gold anymore no matter how hard you lose lol. hell i even lost a game but played pretty well and i got a rank up lol. so yeah getting out of iron/silver/gold takes absolutely 0 skill/knowledge. hope your friend gets better tho! :)
I'm not sure if it’s just me, but every time I’m trying to move up in rank tiers, it feels like winning gets a lot harder. Even if I'm playing well, the matchmaking seems worse during tier transitions. I end up with low-level, low-ELO teammates who sometimes don’t seem to know what they’re doing. Even when I carry, it feels like I'm being held back by teammates who lack the basics. When I'm at the lowest rank in a tier, it's usually easier to climb, but once I'm near a transition, the struggle kicks in again. I think this is due to poor matchmaking and imbalanced player matching. I have other problems with WildRift like severe ping spikes that doesn't happen in other MOBA, even the minimum ping of WR is double compared to other MOBA game like ML. that's why last week I decided to uninstall the game. and don't ever visit their reddit sub, their Reddit removes posts about issues, which feels like they’re avoiding feedback instead of improving. Had multiple posts deleted just for sharing honest thoughts.
I 100% know what you mean, this happened to me a lot towards the end of last season, every fight felt harder and harder until they were impossible to win
I play support in wild rift but i don't know if I'm doing it right and i just try my best to keep my team alive but as a silver ranked i just want to say that getting matched with people that's freaking emerald or higher is F up these guys know the nuances of this game lane management, counter building and hero mechanic... And then you throw them with us it feels like we're getting sacrificed to demons can't even set foot in lane without the trauma of getting killed... Not gonna lie though it feels like im getting boosted when I'm with them but trying to learn your champion with them feels stupid and learning the nuances is out the window...
@@yourstruly5769 thanks but I'm good... I honestly don't think it's a good idea to be carried out of rank because I think it'll be detrimental for me in the long run and I'm not trying to climb ranks I'm just mostly trying to play game
Hahahaha support is low key one of the hardest roles to play! You’ll get there! Learning all the champions is definitely a long road especially as a support
You are correct in what you suspect. It really does work that way. It used to be that we had LP points, which meant this method for climbing didn’t work. It used to be if you had high MMR, the LP system would lift you up to your appropriate rank, and if you had bad MMR, it would hold you back from climbing. And it used to be your in-game metrics didn’t impact your MMR. The system was MUCH better in season 2. Problem was, everyone wanted to believe “winrate” actually mattered, but it didn’t. So they cried and complained until riot removed the LP system, and made ingame metrics alter MMR. Now, the system is far more broke. Than ever, and no one is happy. Oh well.
I run duo with my friend (both emerald) so we usually perform well on lane. But seeing the enemy mid and jg keep ganking us every 2 minutes while our teammates never thought of helping is frustrating. They would rather sit and watch us die before stealing the kill. Apparently the game rewards the behaviour of using teammates as baits/sacrifice instead of fighting alongside and protect each other. They would score a nice kda at the end but contribute nothing to the team and is the main cause of losing. We sometimes are able to hard carry the team but then i almost feel guilty for winning since these idiots dont deserve to win.
BRO STORYTIME: I was playing wild rift and I got after playing for like 6 days the Jinx prodigy skin in wild rift, everything went fine until ONE game. This random girl would start making fun of me every time I died and at first I thought “it must be something else it can’t be me” boy I was extremely wrong, she out of a sudden said “stop using that skin you’re not jinx” 😂😂 and started sabotaging the game in order to make me lose… I don’t know how old this girl is but that is certainly a kids mentality. In the end we lost. This like this happen to me a lot, like one time a support chose Darius and started saying I WAS THE BAD ONE when we didn’t have a support and the other team had Soraka, anyways that’s all.
I am a complete beginner. Jungler level 21, playing for maybe 2 weeks on a serious basis. I cannot carry the game yet, I´ve only started to understand how to gank well. But the amount of people who have level 100 or more and slay my monsters right from the beginning is horrific! AT LEAST TAKE THE ENEMY JUNGLE FFS! Considering playing LOL on my computer. Is it better, would you recommend switching?
Hey, LOL is way more fun but harder on PC. I think wild rift is a less pressured way of learning the game. The more you play, the more you realise account level doesn’t matter. I play against people in platinum rank that are 150+ levels higher than me, that just tells me they don’t understand the game at all ha I would focus on pvp until you have played at least 15 games with one champion before going into rank. But the safest most generic jungle advice is, 1. Learn what your champion is weak to 2. Learn what level or item they ‘spike’ at 3. Do a full jungle clear, starting at red buff, red side, blue wolves, blue buff etc, then get scuttle, then look to gank either mid or the closest lane, then recall 4. Ward the other buff you aren’t going to be at around 36-40 seconds before they spawn then run to your other buff camp God speed
Yup, im ganna be that guy that tell you what you need to hear anyways, GET GOOD, and not in a satirical way, legit if you cant carry yourself out of your current rank and just looking for likeminded people hard stuck too instead to figuring out how to win difficult games, your not going to get better. And that Yi game, is like 1 in a million, legit never had an experience like that not saying it dosnt happen, but if YOU saw someone attempting to troll, you had time to switch you spells, and atleast lane cause theirs nothing you can do with possible someone that dosnt speak english im assuming. Also wtf was that play dude, you went all in on a sion from jungle as if Vi has any good damage early game and worst aginst a tank ??? Ive reached Master 5 times at this point 1 in each lane and legit its a struggle trust me, but this sad excuse of complaining aint it cheif, just keep practicing and get ready to break that back if its hard cause this systems you spoke about aint aginst you, its aginst everyone, your not the only one struggling
Yah it did seem like a lost cause game, but you know, it just means onto the next game, still im sure youll make it to the top ranks with some good old pratice m8, good luck !!! @JustPlatBro
Good vid brother. I'm high diamond on PC and my friend convinced me to play wild rift about a month and a half ago. What do you know, i kinda like the faster pace! Anyway, i won nearly every single game i played before even touching ranked, then went on a 25 win streak playing baron lane, and am still mostly winning my games at about 70% wr. Currently high gold at lv 30 or sth (Teams can be coinflippy esp playing baron lane) I find it odd how easy it is to just snowball and win games, and how slow the climb still feels. Getting MVP or SVP in pretty much 98% of my games feels pretty good. I don't notice this "rigged" matchmaking that much, always feels like i have a lot of impact unless 2+ people are really bad or 1 person is griefing the team. My only concern is a suspicion of some people being bots, but it's kind of rare and only a feeling i get, no proof.
@@sleep3417 hey dude, I was playing with no 1 ranked singed player on wild rift recently, still probably not as good as diamond on Pc hahaha but he was on his Smurf account and after one match we started playing against a lot of bots, when you are too good, I think it puts you against bots so you move up to a better rank faster so that might be why you haven’t seen it haha
Yeah i dont have this issue. Im diamond 1 now with a 61% winrate. started in gold 4 as I haven't played for 2 seasons. And found climbing fairly easy i made it to diamond 1 in around 180-200 games. you do run into games like this where players int. But you work around it and if you focus on your macro gameplay can usually prevail and win more games then i lose. Even if my team feeds i can still make game changing plays to sway the game or push lanes while teams are fighting else where to win and push inhibs. I see alot of people complaining about this but havent found an issue with climbing and once yoy get to diamond 4 and above you seem to run into this issue less and less as players in that rank hage put in the time to get there. people start knowing mechanics around emerald and diamond and teams start working together better and team fights become cleaner
The worst season begging in a long time. I even found extrange behaviors. 3 consecutives games with my junglers inting the game on propose. For no reason they didn’t do objectives, perma farm, gets killed before objectives….is super weird
i agree, i have been doing really well for about 7-9 games in a row, 6 wins, 3 loses (i was SVP in every game), now i am against playesr definitely from a higher rank last season with players who play like they are in bronze hahah then flaming me when I know i am only playing with them because of how many games I was winning in a row hahaha it's so so broken
I peaked diamond back when the game was relatively new and enjoyed playing the game but now when I q its not the same some characters feel just dumb broken and my tm8s aren't all there it seems and this is in multiple games, Iv'e chosen to stick to league pc its miles better than its mobile version. (they also recently removed the ban system in ranked like what are they thinking)
the ban remove is only for gold and lower thankfully, just basically making it even easier to reach platinum now. You can't get counter picked which just makes the game so so so much easier
5 games in a row: 3! Leavers 2 heavy feeders (0-11!!!!) WTF IS GOING ON????? I was svp two times. Last season was diamond and climbing through platina again is hell...
hahahahahahah! I just got back into platinum from the start of the new season and I know what you mean. There is always one person guaranteed doesn't know how the game works. I really want to get into emerald this season to get away from this madness
You're are 100% right, I got so many games win and higher win rate then suddenly I kept having terrible team mates and kept losing. That's why I'm here lol
The fact that when you make a new account and they allow you to turn off the chat is probably the reason why the Vi said nothing. To him yall were AI because he had chat COMPLETELY OFF
same experience here. i love wild rift so much, but the matchmaking and the randoms, i just can't keep up man. 1 game i get a godly top lane and we stomp the enemy together, the next 5 games i get matched with monkeys playing messenger or something, not playing the game and literally just type in the chat flaming others for 5 minutes straight.
@@JustPlatBro i love playing MOBAs and league in particular. and in my region, no one plays the pc (matchmaking could take like 30 mins with 0 result), so wild rift is my only shot to actually play league. but then the matchmaking is just so trash man 😭😭
I've never played a game that forces 50% wr... I was so shocked after coming from games like Identity V where I was easily at 90% winrate on hunter in the equivalent tier of grandmaster-challenger. I'm just not particularly sure why I would play a game that not only doesn't reward me for my skill but literally forces me to lose...?
Bro I was exactly the same! It just feels so weird. I mean I have been playing space marine 2 online and that has no match making and winning 50% of the time is better than getting but on an on balanced team like more casual multiples games. But considering how big league is, it still feels weird and like you’re victories aren’t as earned
Ranked games mode is broken by itself. I was Master S9 with 180 games and Emerald S14 with 280 games. Riot could fix it but it needs deep changes in the ranking logics. Players should have personal goals to achieve, non-depending on the elo lvl, so players could get some satisfaction to improve season after season, maybe to apply an every season's global reset. - One rankedQ with reset every season, heterogeneous teammates but individual goal to achieve. - On the other hand, LegendaryQ should be open for lower elo and in there you could play same elo teammates with winrate% to climb, but everyone forced to play their best and mastered champions.
This is such a good idea. Honestly they just get in-depth feedback like this from 10,000s of players per year which they just ignore because, lol. P.s gimme your money - riot, 2009-2024
It's the same in ARAM which is mostly what I play. I still enjoy the game but I silence the chat. Matchmaking is atrocious but if they want us at 50% then that makes sense.
I only play aram when there is daily challenges on and I see people who are level 200+ with all the aram titles, and they just run into the turrets hahaha it’s wild
What I noticed last season and this season also, lvl 30 players with mastery lvl 5 and higher on whatever champion, plays really bad or just trolling. I play since 3 seasons as support, tried every champion and just recently got mastery 5 on Nami and account lvl 93. Every time I am matched against these players, my thought is " here we go again, this game is lost" .
I'm a lvl 161 player, I still have trouble understanding items and runes. I don't build them myself, I just copy from "top 3 players". Idk why I wrote this)
hahaha i respect your honesty, that's a good start but the best players learn to build against their oppponents which is why youll see there is a ton of items in the 'top 3' builds not just 5 items, it's all about playing against your opponent especially when you are in a lane in the early phase of the game.
i dont know if this thing is exclusive to SEA server or not but whenever I'm in a win or loss streak, the game would pair me with bots. Win = bot teammates, loss = bot opponents. It's just make the game so much boring and unfair
I've been playing since ea and it makes me sad to see how matchmaking got to worse to nonexistent over the years.. most of my team consists of people that don't even know what to do... Sad
One of my problems with this game is the compensation system. It's bs, my teammate has been afk half through the game and I didn't get any compensation like extra fortitude.
I agree. Sometimes you do but yeah I agree. There needs to be a balance so people can’t just quit and their team mates benefit though. It’s probably quite hard to get right ha
I barely played any rank matches this entire year because of this bad matchmaking. I'm actually a master rank player and play all the lanes except the jungle. I was forced to play MOBA somewhere else like MLBB and honor of kings.
Maybe it’s just me, but I’m a jungle main and I watch alot of broxsha, jankos, and dantes, and have that 1V9 mindset. Especially in wild rift, it’s a lot easier to carry with how the damage is. It’s so easy to make a comeback by stealing an objective or killing a key player on the enemy team. I would say don’t let this discourage you from playing but try and learn something from every game and ask yourself after every game, “what could I have done better” 😊
the game will even put you into games with afk players on purpose for you to loose. another thing that happens is that from my understanding, you have a certain number of players that can be in each rank. for example lets say 250 players in master rank in your server. if you are emerald, and that rank is full, there is nothing you can do to rank up, the game will always find a way to keep you in a lower rank, this even goes to make you miss habilities on purpose on the previous season. thats why you have a really hard game to move on rank, for example, emerald to diamond, diamond to master. the only way to get to rank 1 is to start in the beggining of the season , where the slots are still avaiable, and grind your way through. if you are mid season or at the end of the season, the type of players you will have on your games are either smurfs, or consistent loosers.
The only way to beat the system is to play in teams of 5 really, then you can just smash and the matchmaking can’t affect your team mates but easier said than done
If you are as stupid as me and still want to play, add me and drop me a message on the game - Platbro #4868
Well that's riot we are talking abt valorant and league pc has the same issue solo q push is difficult my friend
@@pravesh7040 100% it's tough, i need leaue and wild rift fwiends hahaha
@@JustPlatBroI added you bro my name is Marakatora on rift
What server are u?
@@JustPlatBro i added you and accidentialy delet and add you again now xD *yessyess :>
There is no other competitive game (online or not) that rewards bad plays. And there shouldnt exist one. Wildrift should delete their rank system if thats how they'll continue to manage it, because it discourages competition. It's contradictory to have a competing mode and at the same time encourage bad players. They have a good system in LoL, why didnt they just port it to WR, idk.
LOL is the same People who say this has not played on PC for a while
I 100% agree, my previous video about wild rift got a lot of hate but my main point was -
I have played 100s and 100s of online multiplayer games and I have never experienced a ranked/online system like what Riot use. it is utterly broken.
I just started league ranked mode, i don't know. I am in Iron of course but there is still people going 0-8 after 10 minutes which just cost the entire game which is annoying. I have been working on my ganks and playing as Udyr I average 1 laner kill every 5 minute and usually i am around 3 kills, 0 deaths and 1-2 assist in 12 minutes so I am doing my job but we still lose games because of players who shouldn't be in ranked at all hahaha but this is bottom of the barrell i suppose ha
i just started it and I agree ha
@@JustPlatBro This one game was really a horrible experience but if you've been grinding both games, its not like Wildrift is better but at the very least the suffering is less considering its a shorter duration game and you have fortitude. If anything, I think Platinum below in PC should have fortitude. Even a challenger would lose in Emerald (many high elo streames have experienced this) even if there's "supposedly" an extremely huge gap in individual skill
The ranked system is absolute garbage and the only people who climb consistently to high ranks are playing 5q or duo/trio. Solo que is just a horrific experience below master, but then one you get to master, youll never be in a true "solo" que lobby again you will always be with and against duos/trios. So it gets harder in that regard as well. Even in GM people will troll and do stuff like this though. Ive had a singed top laner multiple times in gm games named nutsack run around and do nothing. 0-10 kda provide no value to the team at all... and hes grandmaster...
man WILD RIFT matchmaking is MENTAL
It’s crazy man
I once encounter similar problem plus afk and disconnected teammates FOR 6 GAME in a row , right After My 7th Winstreak. Totally not suspicious 😂
@@Hansen_0101 dude its been about 10 time i was top 1 fiora then to the top50 now im top5 i think , if you interested on fiora check my gameplays
Competetive integrity of wild rift is completely fucked. Ranks mean nothing when bad players share the same rank as good ones.
100% agree
I mean, if you're playing in a full party an iron can play with a master players for 7 games a day in ranked. So...
It is quite laughable and an obvious sign of a boosting algorithm/busted mm system when you're having 0.8 KDA low GPM players in master/GM, while most of the high KDA and GPM ones are either 5 man teams maphacking and wintrading in challenger or permastuck between memerald and diamond..
The day before the new season started and only normal ques were available I got matched with a premade challenger duo in basic PvP, the two of them went 6-22 in a 15 minute game.. checking the profiles they've both played their main champions, are mostly playing together.. the adc has a kda of 1.2 while the sup is under 1.. but they do average 800+ games a season, so guess they deserve the challenger rank according to the algorithm.
And the enemy duo clapping their cheeks were a plat and a memerald player..
if u say this in the discord server they'll say ur just bad and u should carry them fr lmao
Everyone has bad games, but i legit see more macro from Platinum than Emerald players. I understand not knowing wave states, but team wiping and going for farm instead of objective is mental.
I am a GM jungle player and I am still experiencing the same thing very frequently.
0 communication, taking roles that aren’t theirs without consent and toxic behaviours are incentivized since no matter how rude and bad of a player you are, elo system will make sure you stay at 50% win rate. People can be as bad as they can be and still climb through massive amount of matches. It just takes away the fun of the game and the true status of attaining a high rank.
Imagine just coming off work, load up the game wanting to relax while kicking some ass, and then these disgusting people show up and ruin the entire experience.
I wonder why this game has less and less people now.
wow man
I can relate to having your games ruined for sure
Matchmaking is absolutely TRASH in this game
couldn't agree more
I am a support main and I play jungle almost every game despite hating the role to my core, due to 4 random players on the team with little to no game knowledge in mid elo.
One way you can tell someone has game knowledge is when they wait for their jungler to kill the buffs and not stealing the buff from their jungler.
@@lancedonomie3523 oh yeah man. Nothing worse in the mid game when people steal your calls because they are behind when they would get more gold by just farming a lane. Proper idiot move
Same adc going jg till diamond just cuz I don't trust jg btw stopped playing this game
I will pre-start your buff while your on respawn and ping you to come so I can pick up the second buff as adc… 😅
Play jg till emerald and go back to your role I did that. Main adc until I get to master was thinking of grinding until I see master elo solo rank is more fked up then diamond or emerald
Oh my god that thing drives me crazyyyyyy I just don't grasp the amount of shit you have to have inside your head and your person as a whole to do that WHEN YOU SHOULD KNOW, MORE THAN ANYTHING IF YOURE ALREADY PLAT OR EMERALD, THAT THE JGL SHARES THE FUCKING BUFF. I start sweating only thinking about this ahahaha
Ex wild rift challenger here (season 9), no matter the elo, if there’s a teammate trying their best to make your team lose (Ex; blitz hooking jg camps so they can’t farm), it’s almost impossible to win, I agree. The thing is, the likelihood of this happening is very low and statistically it should happen more often to the enemy team than yours (if you even notice). My point is, if u just wanna have fun then yeah, this sucks, just report them and try to move on, but, if you’re goal is to reach a certain rank, then don’t let these games discourage you. As long as you keep focusing on improving, you’ll climb and that’s it, I don’t see the need to try these strategies deliberately losing games to climb? Just let those games be statistical anomalies.
Well said! I’m sure this will resonatate and encourage a lot of people 🫡
I agree with you but this season has been a mess. I have played 15 ranked games and at league 7 had trolls😪
@@pinata8488 I know, I think the start of a season is always a mess because of higher ranked players absolutely clapping normal gold/plat players which just highlights how had they are
I get folks in every rank akin to the blitz support who just hooks minions constantly, completely worthless. The game isn't even that fun enough to try into, I'm gonna have to leave this guild then try actually achieving my in game goals.
can we please talk about how lame the ranked blind pick until you hit plat is
So so bad, just pick master yi and win every game lower than platinum haha
I've been ignoring ranked for a few seasons now, basically only been playing aram because i find the matchmaking and damage balancing in wild rift atrocious. I used to be master but dropped down to gold 4 when i was inactive, so i was pretty surprised blind pick was a thing when i played a couple ranked games, on top of that you don't drop down if you lose, turning silver and gold rank into iron basically. My first match as a jngl i got a nunu mid that stole baron lane from a kayle that couldnt protect herself from ekko in mid at all (understandably so).
The nice thing i'd say is that if you get a couple good scores and get an MVP you gain 2 rank up points, so you can get out of gold rather quickly. So i just spammed ambessa jungle but it was still a bad experience. Everyone at low elo just hyper focus on getting kills. Nobody listens to pings or helps with objective. I almost lost to baron because the only one that end up helping me was a seraphine support but she ended up leaving me to chase a low hp baron laner. I was relying on her heals to sustain and i almost died until the midlaner came in to help just in time lol.
Honestly if Riot really wanna go this route and babysit the early ranks then atleast lock champs to their respective lanes so you don't get stupid champ choices in your team.
@@JustPlatBro even through plat and emerald I ban Yi every game because my team rarely understands how to deal with him
@@JustPlatBro bro master yi is sure more broken then pc but still in a team of enemies with full cc you can't do shit in blind pick i will pick lux or cait and i will against any master yi player anytime of the year there are more broken jungle players but sure yo with 3 items is more broken then pc counterpart
@@Darsam88 that is the problem team feeding yi but what i have seen through many games is people use auto target all the time they don't target manually
I reached master last season and man the beginning of that season was a hell in hell, no match was normal there will be either a troll, or a map hacker in enemy team. trying to climb is hard with people like these wishr it gets better but i don't think so with latest patches
100% agree, that's why, sadly it's important to report bad players so they don't get protection from any S/A ranks and get demoted
I just wrote a lengthy comment but this was very close to my experience last 2 seasons
I am in Emerald for last 2 seasons. Currently on this season, I easily get promoted to diamond. Then, I climb my way up to Master, now match making is actually the same with your experience. I easily got 5 marks, then it's all defeat down back to diamond. I carried every game, but one winning lane against four seams imposible.
Im a sovereign player playing since open beta , the game was P E R F E C T till the first 5 seasons , we had till then -10 +15 to bad players LP gains in Diamond , master+ was insanely
educational only good players would exist there , but because all this hardstuck people perma complained about this they changed it to marks and this useless matchmaking , even in master plus rn game is terrible we play with 1kda masters its just absurd , great video with great emphasis on the problem
*Ps if you were good u would get +15 - 10 it had to clearly do with ur total mmr
I prefer thaf system lol. I remember being thrown into diamond from emerald 3. When was the last time Riot had you skipping ranks like that?
@@tankster27 Yeah the guy you're replying to is just quoting the LoL system. It wasn't like that in wildrift ever, also sovereign is only there for a few seasons now.
@@vincentschmitz2596actually it was like that… those were some crazy days but the - was way higher than the +. So I think if memory was correct 1 loss was equivalent to 2 wins. So that’s why they added fortitude to the complainers… now we have the s rank weirdness
so it seems like they have just brought in this mark system to encourage more casual play and attract more players...
I mean i get this, but they have to bring in a new ranked system that isn't too hard to get into but something like
1. Master score of 2500+ with 5 champions
2. Level 30 required
3. 100 games played
4. some sort of new 'lane/role' score and have that as a threshold
5. bring LP back 100%
sov didnt exist in beta??
I did an experiment to see if there was a sweet spot in terms of KDA where i get matched with good players. My main account i have a high KDA and im constantly matched with trash. I don't have it in me to have to carry every single game. It's not fun.
My other account has something like a 3 KDA and the quality of matches is far more superior. A lot more balanced on both sides.
It's obviously anecdotal.
It's not fun when the game forces you to either hard carry or be carried. Good players should never be punished. The system is broken.
Yup, a KDA between 3 and 4 seems to be the optimal one according to the algorithm..
No way man
The other day I told you I ranked to master with a potato, today I apologize because the game is literally against me
pahahaahahahaha - i appreciate your honesty my guy x
Most people are playing duo or thrio Q to control the map and to prevent queuing with noobs
@@sidahmedhani5818 yeah hahah i played in trio sometimes but i think duo can be a double edged sword because you seem tog et even worse team mates ha
There's only one middle solution to fix this.
Riot wants bad players to be mixed up with good players so they can learn the game. But good players can't climb in rank this way.
The only solution is to make climbing in rank based on player's performance in matches instead of being based on winning or losing.
I want to resonate what youre saying here. That poor matchmaking that you can get put into, its hapened to me before and in previous seasons it would "reset" until i performed really well and then near the end of the season i would again find myself in the "loser" queue. However last season and this season it didn't "reset. My matches have been absolutely TERRIBLE for more than an entire season now. Season before last, i made Master at a normal pace. Last season i was in emerald for THE ENTIRE SEASON. My matchmaking is so bad that i have lost friends on my friends list and others decline matches with me because they know my matches will have at least ine afk/griefer/inter.
I am NOT an amazing player but for solo q ADC i can do well provided everyone in the tram is doing the bare minimum. Bare. Minimum.
The thing that really bothers me is that Riot has All the information and stats on how people are playing. Matchmaking shouldn't ever be this way and ranking shouldn't be based on win/lose marks. Every role has a focus and ranking should be more based on individual performance. When you have two teams with similar performance are against each other the game makes more sense. Somply putting someone whos "winning more" on a team with people that are "winning less" is absurd.
yeah man, the season has started and honestly it has been probably the worst experience i have had playing the game. Either you smash through the team or they smash you haha. Everyone talks about 'carrying' but it is so much easier said than done especially when people constantly steal team mates farms
11:17 Your can't think of Wild Rift ranks the same as League of Legends ranks. In Wild Rift not matter what you do, if you play enough you get to challenger. Obviously most people can't play 12 hours a day so if you play too bad you can't realistically achieve it, but in theory it's possible. Saw someone on reddit with 3k games in one season with horrible stats reached challenger. I understand that riot needs to make the game appealing to casuals, that's why the fortitude thing etc exists, so you will always sort of climb, but at the same time I feel it's frustrating that I cannot get into higher ranks with just 3 games played per day, because of the way matchmaking is designed in Wild Rift.
Yeah so true man. I play 1-3 games a day so I completely get your frustration man. Just seems bonkers that you will eventually get promoted if you play enough games.
I think they should bring the esport back so we can get more competitive players in the game.
Genuinely the best way to win and have fun is played in a team of 3 or 5 but it’s obviously easier said than done
Yeah with only a couple games a day it's really hard to get grandmaster and impossible to get challenger and above
You can't get challenger by being bad no matter how many games per day you play this is not codm that you can be bad and just survive top 3 for points
I stopped jungling and autofilling after this patch on purpose. Had a few mid and top take my jungle early lol, but expect ganks etc.
wow, when people take your jungle honestly, they should be in silver rank because they don't know how the game works. you get more gold from just staying in your lane, it's so annoying hahaha, i just find if i do not play jungle, the jungler always costs us the game haha
Everyone wants to carry lol. It's cool though. I did the same thing after noticing that.
@@tankster27 hahaha the only thing all high ranked players say is - "get good and carry your team", like it's some sort of biblical advice
It’s gotten to the point where I feel like I’m being punished for being a good player while bad actors are continuously rewarded or are given a mere slap on the wrist. Their remake system is a joke and literally half of my games get approved player reports but they just get 26 champ score deduction (meanwhile, I lose more than that by actually trying in a full game).
that's because you heavily punished for having a few good games hahaha the matchmakign is just wild, pardon the pun
I've literally mained every role to see which gives me greater influence on the games that I win but regardless the harder and better you perform the worse teammates you get as a consequence. The only way to fix this is Inting Sion tbh
Hahaha which lane do you think has the most carry potential? Jungle is great but if your team loses 2 lanes it’s most likely game over and a few dragons and ganks can’t save the game ha
Royal got one of his accounts banned for running that in the Chinese servers.
I reach grandmaster and while I’m not a pro I play decent no feed farm most I can and help the jungle with objetives, but it’s quite unfair and not the fault of some ppl in diamond to get against a fricking challenger Chinese guy who will delete it even in base, I mean he reach master with a lot of effort, even myself with a lot of effort I manage to reach grandmaster and I know not all challengers are pro some of them are worse than platinum but it doesn’t feel like we are playing in a same level there’s always or a way too good guy or a guy who doesn’t even know how what to do.
There’s really a guy that doesn’t know what to do I gm chalky o.o
yeah that is also fair, but i suppose the problem is the inflated ranks that create that situation from happening in the first place
So that's explains why I'm stuck at plat.... I'm a returning player and before i left the game i was master rank baron lane player... And now whenever i get promoted to plat 4 i immediately lose because of bad teammates (jinx jungle for example) and get demoted to gold again
I was wondering what was happening. I’m a master support main. I just came back to the game after a few seasons and I’m in gold. previously I would coast through from gold to diamond with a near 70% win rate now my win rate is around 50% and it’s been very slow to climb. It seems like I don’t really lose LP but at the same time it’s very hard to win streak. Even when I’m playing offensive supports and I’m performing very well and getting lots of kills my teams are just completely unsalvageable. I’m thinking about switching to playing mid until I get diamond.
yeah it's pretty mental how much the matchmaking forces the 50% win rate, yeah mid is probably a better shout so you can influence the game more
Anyone else notice that once you make it to top 50 of x champion, the matchmaking entirely changes in the sense of you win multiple games in a row? I’ve had this happen to me 3 times in season 12, 13 and 14. Any time i choose x champion, I’d be matchmade into winninng queue, eventually leading to 6-7 consecutive wins with that champion. As soon as I choose a different champion, I immediately am put into losing queue. Is that normal?
I’ve noticed the opposite hahaha. Winners queue when trying out new champions in pvp. Loser queue with morons when I play my normal lane and normal champs with high mastery ha
I'm not a Top 50 but I usually get good teams when I play my mains. When I try new heroes, I almost always get the worst teams imaginable.
I have quit and jumped back in a few times. Every time I come back after a long hiatus, the matchmaking is exactly the same. I get to Plat easily maining support (70-80%) getting good teammates. Once I get to Plat, like a switch, the matchmaking starts putting me with the worst teams against highly skilled opponents. It's honestly hilarious how winning and losing is largely controlled by the system. It decides when you have won enough and works against you.
Hahaha I know the feeling. I had 3 emeralds on my team in my last ranked match and the emerald jungler chose leona hahaha
The only times when LoL had reasonable ranking system was in season 1 and 2, back in the days when we just have an elo score and match based on that. The same as how chess ranking works.
The problem with the current ranking system is that you gain or lose a star no matter your relative strength to your opponent and it's absurd. It also causes a massive discrepancy between your actual elo (mmr) and your rank. Happens to me all the time since I used to be high level then now back to gold after a few seasons. Gold and plat is just grandmaster and challenger trying to smurf each other out for me.
yeah i completely agree with what you have said dude
@@JustPlatBro yeah I just had a funnier experience in normal mode. Both of my team and the enemy team are entirely bots, and I realized it after 20 mins since they move randomly, almost never signal, don’t talk and have the same username pattern (something like AbcdG or Abcd100). They have insanely bad macro and sometimes ridiculously good and clearly robotic micro. I knew the game would have bots but I never thought they BOTH team except for me would’ve been bots.
Anyways, turns out their bots are better mine. The score is 30-34 or smth and I contribute to 25 of my teams kill and I have zero assist (imagine). We’re definitely losing, but since they are bots, they are programmed NOT TO WIN. But my bots are too weak to push back so I’m stuck in an almost 40 mins game of not losing and not winning. They’ll get baron 3 times, and NOT PUSH LANES. Since they have the Trex but they’re programmed to not win so they can’t use it, their Trex is stuck where our blue buff is and doesn’t know where else to go. They’ll immediately stop pushing lane as soon as it’s possible to win or if they wipe us. Needless to say my bot teammates refuse to surrender as well.
I had to wait till almost 40 mins for the super minions to finally take my base. Fucking hell.
It’s insane people just take your role if they don’t get it all the fucking time . I’m emerald in normal league and won 20 games straight in wild rift . But it’s so frustrating when you place mid and someone just comes mid and takes everything.
In low elo, the enemys is bots with fake "player names" and thats is the reason of the remove /All chat. You can see how they move, atack or etc. and in the "high and middle elo, have alot toxic and bad players"
@@clonosbr3015 it’s just a mess 🥲
Had a game today with all emerald players. An emerald player decided to play leona jungle and the emerald support left their lane and tried to push baron lane with me after 3 minutes. We lost 35-5 it was actually diabolical
Didn’t know that was a thing. Still… Don’t usually face that problem. Like, at all. Does me maining support have anything to do with it?
Dude you literally said what I really happen to me all time>>>( the part where if you win a lot ur teammate start to suck even more )
I will add you we can play as duo which apparently can make a difference
The problème is you can’t derank more then plat 4 or gold 1 3 wins ! It’s crazy !
I gave up on rank last season (S14), but when they released the Galio’s Aegis, I came back to test and it was a great protection program for good players. However, I’m a support main with KDA 11.2 last season with mostly S or A rating so imo, it was a good thing for me. But they removed it this season 15 (it was a test anyway) and especially during early season, you can see a massive skill gap so I stopped playing again, what an endless cycle 😂
hey dude, see i liked it but it needed refined purely because it was so easy to get an A or S as a support champion but much harder for other roles like jungle (my main), i think role protection should definitely be in but it needs a more advanced tracking system.
Standing with your ADC as a support and healing them despite them going 0-10 shouldn't get you a A/S rank hahaha. The support role is so complex and it really requires a lot of map awareness that most support players really lack. Supports should be ganking nearly as much as mid
@@JustPlatBro I do agree with you that they need to adjust it for other roles. They should really make the criteria to achieve high ratings in each role to be more distinguished. But I don’t play enchanter supports ‘cause I’m soloq and 99% of the time, my adc is autofilled and plays super bad, so I always play either AP mages to carry or Tanks to make plays for my team, I hate enchanters in this meta 😂
Don’t we still have it? 😅 when I was support getting SVP was the most soul crushing thing ever
I would say this set up has pros and cons. To clarify, I'm better than casual players and nowhere near your skill. However, as a support, I like the challenge that does come with a bad player. My Leona is still at a 60 percent win rate, though recently I have noticed what you described. Of late, I'm getting trolled more and more by a terrible dps. To keep my percentage high, I've adapted. I've learned how to turn support into ads
This, everytime I play support I have a terrible adc and vice versa. But everytime I play as top or jungler its fine
Everyone goes back to Gold or Plat meaning Master Elo and Gold elo players get mixed up into games. Gets easier as u get past Plat. But yh the system where they expect u to carry if ur doing well is annoying
Thanks for the heads up. As long as I play more than a few games I’ll definitely get to emerald this season
I TOTALLY AGREE, IF YOU KEEP WINNING at game #5 matchmaking will give you the worst teammates, this is also my issue for the long time why Riot is doing this. This is the worst part of this game.
100%
My KDA every season is 5-8, but i rarely get past plat. Last season i got to plat1 then lost 4 of 26 game with 15-45 kills and little turret damage. While aegis was on it was ok, but when it was removed, i just dropped. Tried split push, nope. Enemy can 3v4 my team at objective and send 2 after me.
i know the feeling dude, all the people who have 1000s of hours are just like ' a good player can carry a team', but you have to be REALLY REALLY good to be able to carry every single game ha
@JustPlatBro the people in diamond or higher typically have 500 + games and are only there because they can play 10 games a day. There are some exceptions, but being told to git gud by someone with the same win rate but less of a life than me is also why I'm probably done with the game. And after removing banning in gold just makes it borderline unplayable
Nah dude, tbh you are the problem. Im sorry but its the truth. Dont say most of the people that climb to diamond are those that play 500+ games per season cause its just not true. If you rarely get past platinum in this game you are just not good bro. And more specifically, you are in the elo you deserve. I dont understand why you guys think you should be in a higher elo.
I guess I deserve to stay in gold then despite platinum players and above instant surrendering. 60% of my games being A rated or better with 20% MVP/SVP and a 40% win rate. Yeah. I deserve to stay in gold.
*faceplams*
@@tankster27 thats different from what the original comment said. He said he RARELY get pass plat in different seasons. Thats not the same as having a lose streak. If its just a lose streak you may not deserve to be in gold. If its consistent then ofc you deserve it. You shouldnt be in plat if you CONSISTENTLY fail on carrying golds. Besides, now you cant even lose marks on gold and below and if you get an S you get two marks, so reaching plat is extremely easy.
Edit: also season just started, how many games could you possibly have played? 20 tops? Its too soon. You need more to reach a conclusion. Cant conclude anything with 20 games.
The latest update made ranked even worse. They removed banning and picking in gold and under. I've never had so many braindead teammates before. I keep spamming focus on objective or farm and don't fight. What do they do? They chase too far and die. They don't rush to dragon when there's just enough time to get it before other team. They leave lane at the worst times. This is platinum within the same week of latest update....
That's so true. I just mute everyone and play along. I played senna sup. And the game goes 40min. I had over 200 stacks on her. And I got lucky to stole the baron. To win this match.
I started playing the game 3 days ago (I've peaked GM in LoL PC), what I've learned is that you play against bots from Iron all the way to Gold, they have the same pattern while playing the game. Once I got to Plat, you know that you are dealing with real people now, and they play horribly, they could be bronze player in PC, fighting for nothing and blaming each other while diying 10 times in less than 10 minutes. Probably going to drop the game, but I hope it gets better, it is almost impossible to carry games like that.
@gearkiler yeah unrated is way better because you eventually get to high sbmm, but it takes a bit. The ranked system is garbage.
yeah it's so weird butttt you can just pick master yi every game and destroy all the gold rank players in my experience hahaha
they might have changed it, it didn't used to be bots in gold but that wouldn't surprised me. I played a game with youtuber who was smurfing and those games were 100% bots, i think if you're too good it gives you bots ha
I began playing S2. This has always been the case with team mates. I'm a jungle main hardstuck gm, but I carry a good 90% of the games I play. The thing that I like the most is when I'm ever on a role, the harder the opponents are, like a test of your own skill. But at the same time the game sucks ass because it mostly feels like I'm playing the game 1v9... Higher up you'll start to see people that are boosted or bought accounts on the regular.
so it gets even worse as you get higher? no way.
@@JustPlatBro Yes. i've been a diamond player for around 6 seasons and it gets so much worse the higher you go. Its nearly impossible to rank up once you make it to diamond IV becase of the ranking system. I have been playing rift since it launched and after season 9 i've given up any desired to go past Diamond as its not even enjoyable to play. I have also seen a lot of Master players complain of this same issues so it does not get better the higher you go.
They balancing the match making system like how they balancing varus scales 💀
😂😂😂😂
Bro I noticed this. Sometimes I’ll jungle and somebody is following me trying to get the last hit on farms and people just throwing etc. I also keep getting even worse team mates with every game I win.
100% man it really happens. You get more gold from just farming lanes, people just do not know how to play and it's really frustrating haha
I didn’t know the game actually threw people under the bus like that… it explains quite a lot actually. I was Diamond II once. Come next season I was trying to get to Master however I was trapped in Emerald like no tomorrow cause my teammates refused to group or go for objectives. I also played bad at times, not all games will be good. But man, losing 5 games in a row hurt and I couldn’t seem to find a chance, so I left the game for a while. My WR usually stayed around 60%. I just restarted so I’m Gold I now since I just began a week ago. My WR is around 54%. Whether I play good or bad it seems to be like winning 2, losing 2, sometimes W3, L2… however the game helps you rank when you’re low ranked so yeah, it’s normal to find bad players still in Plat and Emerald
Was sovereign top 100 on server last season and i can confirm game is absolutely rigged. Last season the we did get galios aegis for a short time which was a beta test on a system that would prevent u from losing marks if you got an A or S rating. They have since removed it tho and im hoping they bring it back but i wont be taking rank seriously until they do.
It’s also wild that many people said they do this just because they has nothing to do in their time and the more his team get pissed off the more they enjoy doing this
It’s maddening they need to get a life hahaha
I play in masters sometimes GM
In those ranks people don't know how to play other lanes.
So basically if queue JG, another JG will get queued as ADC and throw.
that's 50% of the games.
Really? Wow, everyone wants to play jungle apparently haha
I've returned to wr this season after not playing more than a year and most games in gold/plat/em either so horrible that team was chaotically running all over the map and dying one by one with 1-2 players who were literally do nothing whole game, or team was so good that by the end we had like x3, x4 more kills and like 30-50% more gold. I don't know how it can be called ranked. I mean I'm okay to be low elo and not moving up quickly but I want to have nice matches where both teams perform on a similar level, it's just sad, the game has such beautiful mechanics and such poor ranked matchmaking.
100% the same experience I have in platium right now dude, it's just totally busted
The reason is the mmr system. If you are a good player with high kda the system will screw you by matching you with 4 weak players so enemy team gets 5 average players not as good as you but better than your ally.
I was diamond on league on pc and I've been playing aram on wild rift and it feels like it forces you to a 50% wr not by making the enemies more difficult but by literally giving you an inter on your team every game that goes 0/15 in 10 mins I'll be at a 90% wr for a long series of games after reset then it will start giving me inters every game on a giant loss streak every reset where I'm guaranteed svp or 2nd svp every game I play but feel like my mmr is somehow staying low for my team. I'm actually confused on how to increase aram mmr on wild rift since on pc it would very quickly start putting you in lobbies with only high mmr aram players that pretty much never pick champs like talon and prio supp adc tank on every team and not run in and fight/die for no reason which almost every wild rift aram game has at least 1 player that is much lower rank that runs it down all game coinflipping you to a 50% wr while you stack svps. The aram rank system on wild rift also makes no sense how it goes up every game on losses and at least pc mmr checker sites would show you real aram rank despite not having a rank listed in game.
yep i 100% agree and what makes it worse is that the bad person has lost so many games and it has decided it wants you to carry them so they keep their rank.
like wtf
Not promoted through win rate. Teammates are selected based on KDA and GPM.
Do well and get punished 🫡
You just blew my mind. This explains so much.
@@christinaparrish8105 hahahaha glad it helped
i really feel for you, i got hardly demoted from diamond and stayed long in emerald due to being matched with horrible teammates and hi-elo moving enemies. I play on auto fill then boom!
I Played from gold to emerald relatively well this season, until 3 days ago out of nowhere they started matching me with subjects who didn't set on targets, they were picking weird things like 2 or 3 ADC on the same team, always without a tank. In three days playing (we are on a holiday in my country these days) I have lost every game I have played and the matchmaking is getting worse, every game comes out one, 2 or 3 subjects who do not know what they do... and I already go down from emerald 4 with 3 marks to platinum 2 and I know that I will not win the next game I start... there are 13 losses in a row it is impressive.
The exact same thing has happened to me. Doesn’t matter what I do, what lane I’m in. The other 2 lanes are lost in 8/9 minutes. It’s just so annoying. I’ve been demoted to plat 4. I started with a 7 match win streak in plat and I’m on a 8 match loss streak now and so so sick
I've only done 3 rank games this season. Won every single one. I am skeptical however.
For 4 straight seasons, I have gotten performances where i hit an A or better 60% of the time, the MVP/SVP rate being 20% of my games. I'm balling. For 4 straight seasons, my win rate for rank has been between 35% to 45%. I can hit platinum easily. I cannot stay in platinum. The rooms are night and day. Platinum is more competent than gold players. Yet platinum usually has an ego and surrenders. In other words, I'm a boomer stuck at Gold 1. I demoted there multiple times.
Sad part about this is that 7 seasons ago i climbed to masters only autofilling. Autofill gave me jungle only until i hit masters, and there i just could not keep up. I want that wall back, not what we currently have now. This aegis system may benefit some people. Not me. I'll be one of the few players that's boosted. I do not want to be falsely banned due to a low win rate.
Sounds like a difficult situation to be in. It might help you if you can get some one to play duos with?
As my channel gets bigger and I can creates polls etc, I’m considering making a discord or something for people who need help and advice but can play in groups to make the matches fairer sp stay tuned my dude
Already doing so this season. I'm just being trifling and playing with a ton of other supports for an easy climb
I had no idea matchmaking was like this. When I was pushing rank hard, I used to keep telling myself that if I can get to the higher ranks, I’ll finally get people who can work with me or people I can work with. I guess I really do just gotta learn how to carry games :/
That is the sad truth or play in a group
Tips: you can easily solo carry until emerald. Frm emerald-diamond, you need to play duo/trio. In master and above, it is still better to play with your friends, but playing solo queue isn't as bad as in lower rank.
Thanks for the tips :)
The funny thing about this for me is that, I play against better opponents in blind pick than I do in Ranked. Im plat-emerald and I go against diamond and above most of the time. Really debating if I should do blind pick content instead of ranked content…
Wild rift ranked match making is so incredibly stupid it’s embarrassing. Bc I do so well as a lower ELO person they throw me in matches with Diamond players and then my teammates are also probably still dudes from emerald or lower tier diamond players. It’s so crazy
😂welcomed to the club. Been playing here since 2012 and the ranking system never made any sense to me at all. Everyone's been complaining about it since the dawn of time. I just learned not to aboid ranking at all cost because it doesn't really make my wanna play the game when all i want is to have a good time😢
Yeah it just seems like the weirdest thing I have ever seen to be honest
i've been grinding for 3 days and cant even get to diamond 1. Every time i get to diamond 2, 5 crystal, they gave me literally bot, afk or even troll. i just cant even get to diamond 2 6 crystal once. Please helpppp i am so mentally tired.
@@khoitran1257 how many games did you manage to win? Just remember if you are winning 60% of games you are doing very very well hahah
They also need a report system for feeding that works that works like a credit system to where you get banned from rank (Like MLBB)
Evef if i get svp, doing more damage than my team and even than enemy team, preventing shield doesnt work and it keep taking my marks, can someone explain how that fucckcing system works?
SVP isn’t the same as A or S (I didn’t know that either ha)
@@JustPlatBro fuckk them, we need some competition for riot moba
My problem is that i am currently only getting queued with last season masters and grand masters, while i have peaked in diamond 2, it just feels unfair and unfun, because i rarely do anything and it feels like i am just there to complete a team.
I was peak master last season and im getting paired with sovereign and challengers😂 def felt useless in those games.
Oh that does not sound fun at all haha
It’s either you’re on a really good team or you got the derp team and people are way more toxic in these higher ranked matches with people that rightfully be in like silver gold
I've been playing since s2-s3 and holllllly smokes really the last few seasons have been horrific with ranked. I'm a support main, can do any roles, and I stay away from jungle because it's such a thankless job
yeah the quality is getting worse and worse, this season is horrific atm
I get that about jungling, it is very thankless ha
@@JustPlatBro I peaked in diamond but for the last few seasons I've been chronically stuck between plat and emerald cause of this garbage 🫠
Platinum for me and my gf has been the absolute worst experience for us
The saddest thing is Riot doesnt bloody care
They only care about one thing 🤑🤑🤑
i just introduce wild rift to my friend, and he is so bad that he lost himself in the map. its like a 2 year child playing, he is completly lost in the game. but someway he is in gold right now staying 0/11/1 in every matchup. so yes, its broken
i mean, you dont drop ranks in iron/silver/gold anymore no matter how hard you lose lol. hell i even lost a game but played pretty well and i got a rank up lol. so yeah getting out of iron/silver/gold takes absolutely 0 skill/knowledge. hope your friend gets better tho! :)
Hahahaha my friend started playing normal league and the same thing happened to him hahaha
I'm not sure if it’s just me, but every time I’m trying to move up in rank tiers, it feels like winning gets a lot harder. Even if I'm playing well, the matchmaking seems worse during tier transitions. I end up with low-level, low-ELO teammates who sometimes don’t seem to know what they’re doing. Even when I carry, it feels like I'm being held back by teammates who lack the basics. When I'm at the lowest rank in a tier, it's usually easier to climb, but once I'm near a transition, the struggle kicks in again. I think this is due to poor matchmaking and imbalanced player matching. I have other problems with WildRift like severe ping spikes that doesn't happen in other MOBA, even the minimum ping of WR is double compared to other MOBA game like ML. that's why last week I decided to uninstall the game.
and don't ever visit their reddit sub, their Reddit removes posts about issues, which feels like they’re avoiding feedback instead of improving. Had multiple posts deleted just for sharing honest thoughts.
I 100% know what you mean, this happened to me a lot towards the end of last season, every fight felt harder and harder until they were impossible to win
I play support in wild rift but i don't know if I'm doing it right and i just try my best to keep my team alive but as a silver ranked i just want to say that getting matched with people that's freaking emerald or higher is F up these guys know the nuances of this game lane management, counter building and hero mechanic... And then you throw them with us it feels like we're getting sacrificed to demons can't even set foot in lane without the trauma of getting killed... Not gonna lie though it feels like im getting boosted when I'm with them but trying to learn your champion with them feels stupid and learning the nuances is out the window...
Right? I don´t understand? I´m iron and I get matched with a lvl 275 emerald jungler. I don´t stand a chance.
If u on na servers u want help climbing out ?
@@yourstruly5769 thanks but I'm good... I honestly don't think it's a good idea to be carried out of rank because I think it'll be detrimental for me in the long run and I'm not trying to climb ranks I'm just mostly trying to play game
Hahahaha support is low key one of the hardest roles to play! You’ll get there! Learning all the champions is definitely a long road especially as a support
I mean that is just straight up busted man
master & GM rank is the new bronze.
100% impossible to soloQ carry any role
Not surprised at all. Platinum rank is laughably bad. But everyone is in voice chat like they are pros
You are correct in what you suspect. It really does work that way.
It used to be that we had LP points, which meant this method for climbing didn’t work.
It used to be if you had high MMR, the LP system would lift you up to your appropriate rank, and if you had bad MMR, it would hold you back from climbing.
And it used to be your in-game metrics didn’t impact your MMR. The system was MUCH better in season 2.
Problem was, everyone wanted to believe “winrate” actually mattered, but it didn’t. So they cried and complained until riot removed the LP system, and made ingame metrics alter MMR.
Now, the system is far more broke. Than ever, and no one is happy. Oh well.
thanks man! yeah it's so broken
I run duo with my friend (both emerald) so we usually perform well on lane. But seeing the enemy mid and jg keep ganking us every 2 minutes while our teammates never thought of helping is frustrating. They would rather sit and watch us die before stealing the kill. Apparently the game rewards the behaviour of using teammates as baits/sacrifice instead of fighting alongside and protect each other. They would score a nice kda at the end but contribute nothing to the team and is the main cause of losing. We sometimes are able to hard carry the team but then i almost feel guilty for winning since these idiots dont deserve to win.
Support main tired of loser q has throwers 4 games in a row after winning 3
BRO STORYTIME: I was playing wild rift and I got after playing for like 6 days the Jinx prodigy skin in wild rift, everything went fine until ONE game. This random girl would start making fun of me every time I died and at first I thought “it must be something else it can’t be me” boy I was extremely wrong, she out of a sudden said “stop using that skin you’re not jinx” 😂😂 and started sabotaging the game in order to make me lose… I don’t know how old this girl is but that is certainly a kids mentality. In the end we lost. This like this happen to me a lot, like one time a support chose Darius and started saying I WAS THE BAD ONE when we didn’t have a support and the other team had Soraka, anyways that’s all.
I am a complete beginner. Jungler level 21, playing for maybe 2 weeks on a serious basis. I cannot carry the game yet, I´ve only started to understand how to gank well. But the amount of people who have level 100 or more and slay my monsters right from the beginning is horrific! AT LEAST TAKE THE ENEMY JUNGLE FFS!
Considering playing LOL on my computer. Is it better, would you recommend switching?
Pc is better but more toxic
Hey, LOL is way more fun but harder on PC. I think wild rift is a less pressured way of learning the game. The more you play, the more you realise account level doesn’t matter. I play against people in platinum rank that are 150+ levels higher than me, that just tells me they don’t understand the game at all ha
I would focus on pvp until you have played at least 15 games with one champion before going into rank.
But the safest most generic jungle advice is,
1. Learn what your champion is weak to
2. Learn what level or item they ‘spike’ at
3. Do a full jungle clear, starting at red buff, red side, blue wolves, blue buff etc, then get scuttle, then look to gank either mid or the closest lane, then recall
4. Ward the other buff you aren’t going to be at around 36-40 seconds before they spawn then run to your other buff camp
God speed
Yup, im ganna be that guy that tell you what you need to hear anyways, GET GOOD, and not in a satirical way, legit if you cant carry yourself out of your current rank and just looking for likeminded people hard stuck too instead to figuring out how to win difficult games, your not going to get better.
And that Yi game, is like 1 in a million, legit never had an experience like that not saying it dosnt happen, but if YOU saw someone attempting to troll, you had time to switch you spells, and atleast lane cause theirs nothing you can do with possible someone that dosnt speak english im assuming.
Also wtf was that play dude, you went all in on a sion from jungle as if Vi has any good damage early game and worst aginst a tank ???
Ive reached Master 5 times at this point 1 in each lane and legit its a struggle trust me, but this sad excuse of complaining aint it cheif, just keep practicing and get ready to break that back if its hard cause this systems you spoke about aint aginst you, its aginst everyone, your not the only one struggling
I’m trying lol I know I need to get better and I’m not someone who will only blame others but this game was bonkers
Yah it did seem like a lost cause game, but you know, it just means onto the next game, still im sure youll make it to the top ranks with some good old pratice m8, good luck !!!
@JustPlatBro
Good vid brother. I'm high diamond on PC and my friend convinced me to play wild rift about a month and a half ago. What do you know, i kinda like the faster pace! Anyway, i won nearly every single game i played before even touching ranked, then went on a 25 win streak playing baron lane, and am still mostly winning my games at about 70% wr. Currently high gold at lv 30 or sth (Teams can be coinflippy esp playing baron lane)
I find it odd how easy it is to just snowball and win games, and how slow the climb still feels. Getting MVP or SVP in pretty much 98% of my games feels pretty good. I don't notice this "rigged" matchmaking that much, always feels like i have a lot of impact unless 2+ people are really bad or 1 person is griefing the team. My only concern is a suspicion of some people being bots, but it's kind of rare and only a feeling i get, no proof.
@@sleep3417 hey dude, I was playing with no 1 ranked singed player on wild rift recently, still probably not as good as diamond on Pc hahaha but he was on his Smurf account and after one match we started playing against a lot of bots, when you are too good, I think it puts you against bots so you move up to a better rank faster so that might be why you haven’t seen it haha
I had to play 6 months or more can some one tell me why we don't have in ranked games banning system??
there is ban in plat and higher :)
Yeah i dont have this issue. Im diamond 1 now with a 61% winrate. started in gold 4 as I haven't played for 2 seasons. And found climbing fairly easy i made it to diamond 1 in around 180-200 games. you do run into games like this where players int. But you work around it and if you focus on your macro gameplay can usually prevail and win more games then i lose. Even if my team feeds i can still make game changing plays to sway the game or push lanes while teams are fighting else where to win and push inhibs. I see alot of people complaining about this but havent found an issue with climbing and once yoy get to diamond 4 and above you seem to run into this issue less and less as players in that rank hage put in the time to get there. people start knowing mechanics around emerald and diamond and teams start working together better and team fights become cleaner
I get s rank, a rank, svp or mvp in almost every game. This is litterally my experience in every third game lol.
It’s gut wrenching sometimes and just completely wastes your time
The worst season begging in a long time. I even found extrange behaviors. 3 consecutives games with my junglers inting the game on propose. For no reason they didn’t do objectives, perma farm, gets killed before objectives….is super weird
i agree, i have been doing really well for about 7-9 games in a row, 6 wins, 3 loses (i was SVP in every game), now i am against playesr definitely from a higher rank last season with players who play like they are in bronze hahah then flaming me when I know i am only playing with them because of how many games I was winning in a row hahaha
it's so so broken
I peaked diamond back when the game was relatively new and enjoyed playing the game but now when I q its not the same some characters feel just dumb broken and my tm8s aren't all there it seems and this is in multiple games, Iv'e chosen to stick to league pc its miles better than its mobile version. (they also recently removed the ban system in ranked like what are they thinking)
the ban remove is only for gold and lower thankfully, just basically making it even easier to reach platinum now. You can't get counter picked which just makes the game so so so much easier
5 games in a row:
3! Leavers
2 heavy feeders (0-11!!!!)
WTF IS GOING ON?????
I was svp two times.
Last season was diamond and climbing through platina again is hell...
hahahahahahah! I just got back into platinum from the start of the new season and I know what you mean. There is always one person guaranteed doesn't know how the game works. I really want to get into emerald this season to get away from this madness
@@JustPlatBroat least.. true, but in my case my team is already got 6 deaths in first 1.5 minute. Insanity. Matchmaking in Wild Rift is pure evil.
You're are 100% right, I got so many games win and higher win rate then suddenly I kept having terrible team mates and kept losing. That's why I'm here lol
@@Khang-wz2vl yep they just want you to play a lot of games. Rank doesn’t mean anything
The fact that when you make a new account and they allow you to turn off the chat is probably the reason why the Vi said nothing. To him yall were AI because he had chat COMPLETELY OFF
same experience here. i love wild rift so much, but the matchmaking and the randoms, i just can't keep up man. 1 game i get a godly top lane and we stomp the enemy together, the next 5 games i get matched with monkeys playing messenger or something, not playing the game and literally just type in the chat flaming others for 5 minutes straight.
Yep that’s how it goes, very very annoying hahaa
@@JustPlatBro i love playing MOBAs and league in particular. and in my region, no one plays the pc (matchmaking could take like 30 mins with 0 result), so wild rift is my only shot to actually play league. but then the matchmaking is just so trash man 😭😭
I've never played a game that forces 50% wr... I was so shocked after coming from games like Identity V where I was easily at 90% winrate on hunter in the equivalent tier of grandmaster-challenger. I'm just not particularly sure why I would play a game that not only doesn't reward me for my skill but literally forces me to lose...?
Bro I was exactly the same! It just feels so weird. I mean I have been playing space marine 2 online and that has no match making and winning 50% of the time is better than getting but on an on balanced team like more casual multiples games. But considering how big league is, it still feels weird and like you’re victories aren’t as earned
Game is dying iam master good kda 3.8 and i see grand with kda more then deaths then kills and they got grand challe i better quit it
@@anmazool725 oh wow
Ranked games mode is broken by itself.
I was Master S9 with 180 games and Emerald S14 with 280 games.
Riot could fix it but it needs deep changes in the ranking logics.
Players should have personal goals to achieve, non-depending on the elo lvl, so players could get some satisfaction to improve season after season, maybe to apply an every season's global reset.
- One rankedQ with reset every season, heterogeneous teammates but individual goal to achieve.
- On the other hand, LegendaryQ should be open for lower elo and in there you could play same elo teammates with winrate% to climb, but everyone forced to play their best and mastered champions.
This is such a good idea. Honestly they just get in-depth feedback like this from 10,000s of players per year which they just ignore because, lol.
P.s gimme your money - riot, 2009-2024
It's the same in ARAM which is mostly what I play. I still enjoy the game but I silence the chat. Matchmaking is atrocious but if they want us at 50% then that makes sense.
I only play aram when there is daily challenges on and I see people who are level 200+ with all the aram titles, and they just run into the turrets hahaha it’s wild
What I noticed last season and this season also, lvl 30 players with mastery lvl 5 and higher on whatever champion, plays really bad or just trolling.
I play since 3 seasons as support, tried every champion and just recently got mastery 5 on Nami and account lvl 93.
Every time I am matched against these players, my thought is " here we go again, this game is lost" .
haha yeah i have experienced this a lot too
I'm a lvl 161 player, I still have trouble understanding items and runes. I don't build them myself, I just copy from "top 3 players". Idk why I wrote this)
hahaha i respect your honesty, that's a good start but the best players learn to build against their oppponents which is why youll see there is a ton of items in the 'top 3' builds not just 5 items, it's all about playing against your opponent especially when you are in a lane in the early phase of the game.
i dont know if this thing is exclusive to SEA server or not but whenever I'm in a win or loss streak, the game would pair me with bots. Win = bot teammates, loss = bot opponents. It's just make the game so much boring and unfair
We should rate 1 star until they fix this problem and then they’ll listen . I’m gonna do it
That wouldn't solve anything. You're an idiot.
Fix your gameplay
Do it (palpatine voice)
Funny tho
I've been playing since ea and it makes me sad to see how matchmaking got to worse to nonexistent over the years.. most of my team consists of people that don't even know what to do... Sad
It’s a real shame
ima plat mundo plyer and its so annoying when people just take lanes for no reason
So so annoying ruins it for everyone
One of my problems with this game is the compensation system. It's bs, my teammate has been afk half through the game and I didn't get any compensation like extra fortitude.
I agree. Sometimes you do but yeah I agree. There needs to be a balance so people can’t just quit and their team mates benefit though. It’s probably quite hard to get right ha
I barely played any rank matches this entire year because of this bad matchmaking. I'm actually a master rank player and play all the lanes except the jungle. I was forced to play MOBA somewhere else like MLBB and honor of kings.
Oh wow, I stopped a bit to climb after some years on GM and got between plat/diamond playing for fun, i never got a player like that
It’s bad bad now
Maybe it’s just me, but I’m a jungle main and I watch alot of broxsha, jankos, and dantes, and have that 1V9 mindset. Especially in wild rift, it’s a lot easier to carry with how the damage is. It’s so easy to make a comeback by stealing an objective or killing a key player on the enemy team. I would say don’t let this discourage you from playing but try and learn something from every game and ask yourself after every game, “what could I have done better” 😊
well said buddy
the game will even put you into games with afk players on purpose for you to loose. another thing that happens is that from my understanding, you have a certain number of players that can be in each rank. for example lets say 250 players in master rank in your server. if you are emerald, and that rank is full, there is nothing you can do to rank up, the game will always find a way to keep you in a lower rank, this even goes to make you miss habilities on purpose on the previous season. thats why you have a really hard game to move on rank, for example, emerald to diamond, diamond to master. the only way to get to rank 1 is to start in the beggining of the season , where the slots are still avaiable, and grind your way through. if you are mid season or at the end of the season, the type of players you will have on your games are either smurfs, or consistent loosers.
The only way to beat the system is to play in teams of 5 really, then you can just smash and the matchmaking can’t affect your team mates but easier said than done