i believe it is the way the original boss OSH was intended to be killed like this, slowly and progresivelly by all guild members, but players found hero combinations and tactics to kill the 160boss multiple times... or the best hero setup and tactics is yet to be discovered
YOu have put many heroes that have no synergy as you put in Polaris as she increases magic damage greatly but your attackers are pure damage dealers... so the key is to get perfect combo as I see that magic damage will be crucial... so pet like MErlin who can increase it by 100%(plus buff +25%).. heroes like Polaris who can put another 140%... rest of them should be studied but if morrigan or mushy could block the Horn with their skeletons or copies so that the whole team stays spared, it would be great.
I will try Aurora Celeste Orion Polaris Thea with Merlin as team pet...Aurora is the best magic dealer, Celeste is the only hero that can doble click on auto and give 100k magic damage bonus and heal in material phase and make damage in astral phase, Orin is also great MD dealer and gives a lot of MP, Polaris should boost that damage by another 140% and stun opponent and theas is a great healer and magic defense ulter, she also makes silence... merlin should be a killer with 125% MD bonus
I was thinking something like this but with Mojo (I think Orion is better but mine is weak). I thought Martha instead of Thea as healer cause she can speed up the team.
This is nice solution. i also think same about it. Merlin with this team works better, like around 8.5 mil. Axel make just 7.5mil with same setup. But it isn't best team(
@@dedaherowars The stuff GloZOsiris said seems right, Thea first talent can be activated manually to annilhate the stun, Martha canno't. Furthermore, this boss can make area damage, not that good for the tea pot.
I wonder if this is all in futility and the real key will be some new Hero released later this year. Even with 1000 points to put into buffs and everyone buying the weekly golden ticket, I wonder if the damages will still be too low to beat a boss with 860million health. Which gets me wonder if the real key might be some upcoming hero in the next 6 months that will be part of a new meta to beat this new boss. Nexters needs to make their money and needs the community to keep buying heroes.
Yes, it should be this way. It is simply commercial solution. Make a hard boss witch nobody can kill and then make a hero for money who will be good vs this boss. And most players then will pay for it. Knowing the developers of Nexters - this is exactly in their style.
If you don't have a lot of heroes levelled up you can at least make a decent attempt with Juh, Nebula, Sebastian & Martha +Albus (i added Mojo for magic damage and healing but that seemed to be a dud) which gave just under 15 million against the starting boss. I'm sure you'll need some of these heroes when the meta team is found but for now if your guild needs to grind out a bit more damage it's worth considering if you haven't got a wide choice of high powered heroes
we are all thinking about astral phase and making damage there... but what if previous meta team for OSH or some variation of it could work at the start of material phase? It's says that Maestro's defense has gradual increase... so maybe Corny can make a punch right after shifting from astral to material form?
so if back healer would be thea instead of Martha... in astral phase she could remove stuns from first 3 heroes coz she can both heal and silence... Isaac would then get supercharged coz of constant magic damage from the boss and then manual transition to material phase while armor on Maestro is still lower value... and boooom... Corny gets a crit hit.
Interesting results (thanks for sharing). We now have a framework for teams that protect too much, and teams that attack too much. We should be able to find the ideal heroes. If the healing and amors are sufficient, normally dispelling the Horn will be not necessary. I also wonder if Orion can do massive damage on Maestro as he does on Osh, spamming his missiles without being stuned. Let's try another Magic Team - Axel - Alvanor(Oliver) for the Grove Keeper bonus - Celeste(Axel) - Heidi(Albus) - Orion(Merlin) & another version with Lilith(Merlin) to check if there is a change - Thea(Mara)
Merlin is bad for orion. It is whole big video about it to do, mb later. I make lof of fights with Osh and Orion. All with merlin pet was bad. your team make with same buffs as in video - 10mil. With lilith it is 14 mil. And if replace Merlin as main pet it is ~12.5 mil. So Axel pet make some positive effect, mb vs stun coz it takes damage from low heroes and make it to full heroes and Thea can make then more healing.
Основные дамагеры Хайди/Майя бьют чистым уроном, так что особой разницы в дамаге и не должно быть. Разница должна быть только в физ/маг паках, где дамаг сильно зависит от пробива/защиты босса.
Я тоже так думал. Но при этом Майя оказалась хуже, чем Джулиус с одинаковыми остальными героями. Важен еще эффект контроля и лечения для работы с дебафами босса.
The goal in this fight is to spend as long as possible in the Astral Form and only switch to the Material Form when you need to heal up due to the continuously more powerful healing debuff in the Astral Form. That is clearly not going to happen if you have the fight set to auto. The fight will require you to learn to play manually to do any decent damage.
thank you for this testing video. Are you an internal developer or Nexter staff? I mean, it's amazing that u get to test various boss levels with the same team and have access to the asgard boss on wednesday
It is old story about Nexters for me and for now i have nothing to do with them. So i use some solutions + my own. My goal to make it clear and help find best team to players. And as you see, it is team work here and i share the results.
I'm thinking about couple of teams. Which one do u think would be better and maybe need to replace someone with another heroe: 1. Aurora+Kain / Maya+Albus / Celeste+Merlin / Iris+Oliver / Martha+Axel with Axel and pets flag 2. Aurora+Oliver / Maya+Albus / Celeste+Merlin / Heidi+Kain / Martha+Axel with Axel and pets flag 3. Aurora+Biscuit / Maya+Albus / Nebula+Kain / Iris+Oliver / Martha+Axel with Axel and pets flag 4. Aurora+Merlin / Maya+Albus / Nebula+Kain / Heidi+Biscuit / Martha+Axel with Axel and pets flag 5. Aurora+Kain / Celeste+Merlin / Heidi+Albus / Iris+Oliver / Martha+Axel with Axel and pets flag
you won't be able to take plag to Asgard boss. First team make ~9 mil vs 160 level and second ~9.5 mill. All was safe and noone die. So can make some more damage if put put 1 healing hero i think. The last one is not better, ~8.5 mil. Also noone died. good luck in your real fights tomorrow!
I tryed Elmir and Astrid&Lucas. They don't work and can't get stuns. Didn't try morrigan, but seems it will not work. In game all heroes got own ID number and boss skill can focus only for this ID. Also any next hero they can make with immune to this spell. It will be good promotion and usefull hero then, like it was with Lara. I will discuss this option with the developer team.
i believe it is the way the original boss OSH was intended to be killed like this, slowly and progresivelly by all guild members, but players found hero combinations and tactics to kill the 160boss multiple times... or the best hero setup and tactics is yet to be discovered
Blessings from Taiwan 🇹🇼 🥳
Thank you for testing these different teams. 🤓👍
Waiting for the BEST team to BEAT this new boss. 💪
Jesus loves everyone 😇 🥰
Hi David, thank you for teaching the next generation of TSMC employees! Your students will be making the microchips that go into phones and computers.
YOu have put many heroes that have no synergy as you put in Polaris as she increases magic damage greatly but your attackers are pure damage dealers... so the key is to get perfect combo as I see that magic damage will be crucial... so pet like MErlin who can increase it by 100%(plus buff +25%).. heroes like Polaris who can put another 140%... rest of them should be studied but if morrigan or mushy could block the Horn with their skeletons or copies so that the whole team stays spared, it would be great.
i tested Astrid&Lucas and Elmir. They can't block boss skill for pet/illusions.
I will try Aurora Celeste Orion Polaris Thea with Merlin as team pet...Aurora is the best magic dealer, Celeste is the only hero that can doble click on auto and give 100k magic damage bonus and heal in material phase and make damage in astral phase, Orin is also great MD dealer and gives a lot of MP, Polaris should boost that damage by another 140% and stun opponent and theas is a great healer and magic defense ulter, she also makes silence... merlin should be a killer with 125% MD bonus
I was thinking something like this but with Mojo (I think Orion is better but mine is weak). I thought Martha instead of Thea as healer cause she can speed up the team.
This is nice solution. i also think same about it.
Merlin with this team works better, like around 8.5 mil. Axel make just 7.5mil with same setup.
But it isn't best team(
@@dedaherowars The stuff GloZOsiris said seems right, Thea first talent can be activated manually to annilhate the stun, Martha canno't. Furthermore, this boss can make area damage, not that good for the tea pot.
I wonder if this is all in futility and the real key will be some new Hero released later this year. Even with 1000 points to put into buffs and everyone buying the weekly golden ticket, I wonder if the damages will still be too low to beat a boss with 860million health. Which gets me wonder if the real key might be some upcoming hero in the next 6 months that will be part of a new meta to beat this new boss.
Nexters needs to make their money and needs the community to keep buying heroes.
I think so too. Charly from Hero Wars Central also said there will be a new hero and a new pet. You probably need both.
It would not be surprising. 😅
Yes, it should be this way. It is simply commercial solution. Make a hard boss witch nobody can kill and then make a hero for money who will be good vs this boss. And most players then will pay for it. Knowing the developers of Nexters - this is exactly in their style.
@@dedaherowarsBlessings from Taiwan 🇹🇼 🥳
Agree with you 💯
Jesus loves everyone 😇 🥰
If you don't have a lot of heroes levelled up you can at least make a decent attempt with Juh, Nebula, Sebastian & Martha +Albus (i added Mojo for magic damage and healing but that seemed to be a dud) which gave just under 15 million against the starting boss. I'm sure you'll need some of these heroes when the meta team is found but for now if your guild needs to grind out a bit more damage it's worth considering if you haven't got a wide choice of high powered heroes
I find nebula make good damage with some hereos. it can be part of new meta.
we are all thinking about astral phase and making damage there... but what if previous meta team for OSH or some variation of it could work at the start of material phase? It's says that Maestro's defense has gradual increase... so maybe Corny can make a punch right after shifting from astral to material form?
so if back healer would be thea instead of Martha... in astral phase she could remove stuns from first 3 heroes coz she can both heal and silence... Isaac would then get supercharged coz of constant magic damage from the boss and then manual transition to material phase while armor on Maestro is still lower value... and boooom... Corny gets a crit hit.
Interesting results (thanks for sharing). We now have a framework for teams that protect too much, and teams that attack too much. We should be able to find the ideal heroes.
If the healing and amors are sufficient, normally dispelling the Horn will be not necessary.
I also wonder if Orion can do massive damage on Maestro as he does on Osh, spamming his missiles without being stuned.
Let's try another Magic Team
- Axel
- Alvanor(Oliver) for the Grove Keeper bonus
- Celeste(Axel)
- Heidi(Albus)
- Orion(Merlin) & another version with Lilith(Merlin) to check if there is a change
- Thea(Mara)
why Thea and not Martha who can increase velocity of all the team ?
@@dokhan6863 Because Thea can dispell the stun manually, while Martha can have his Tea Box broken.
@@GlobZOsiris Good point. Celeste can do that too isn't she ?
@@dokhan6863 Except Celeste will be in the 3 first heroes to be stun. Are you a new player ?
Merlin is bad for orion. It is whole big video about it to do, mb later. I make lof of fights with Osh and Orion. All with merlin pet was bad.
your team make with same buffs as in video - 10mil.
With lilith it is 14 mil.
And if replace Merlin as main pet it is ~12.5 mil. So Axel pet make some positive effect, mb vs stun coz it takes damage from low heroes and make it to full heroes and Thea can make then more healing.
Основные дамагеры Хайди/Майя бьют чистым уроном, так что особой разницы в дамаге и не должно быть. Разница должна быть только в физ/маг паках, где дамаг сильно зависит от пробива/защиты босса.
Я тоже так думал. Но при этом Майя оказалась хуже, чем Джулиус с одинаковыми остальными героями. Важен еще эффект контроля и лечения для работы с дебафами босса.
The goal in this fight is to spend as long as possible in the Astral Form and only switch to the Material Form when you need to heal up due to the continuously more powerful healing debuff in the Astral Form. That is clearly not going to happen if you have the fight set to auto. The fight will require you to learn to play manually to do any decent damage.
thank you for this testing video. Are you an internal developer or Nexter staff? I mean, it's amazing that u get to test various boss levels with the same team and have access to the asgard boss on wednesday
Хахаха, он просто купил скрипт/имеет свой альтернативный, спасибо ему за тесты пачек. Самому мне лень их проверить))
It is old story about Nexters for me and for now i have nothing to do with them. So i use some solutions + my own.
My goal to make it clear and help find best team to players.
And as you see, it is team work here and i share the results.
@@dedaherowars cheater
with HWS you can try fight again and again with OSH
I'm thinking about couple of teams. Which one do u think would be better and maybe need to replace someone with another heroe:
1. Aurora+Kain / Maya+Albus / Celeste+Merlin / Iris+Oliver / Martha+Axel with Axel and pets flag
2. Aurora+Oliver / Maya+Albus / Celeste+Merlin / Heidi+Kain / Martha+Axel with Axel and pets flag
3. Aurora+Biscuit / Maya+Albus / Nebula+Kain / Iris+Oliver / Martha+Axel with Axel and pets flag
4. Aurora+Merlin / Maya+Albus / Nebula+Kain / Heidi+Biscuit / Martha+Axel with Axel and pets flag
5. Aurora+Kain / Celeste+Merlin / Heidi+Albus / Iris+Oliver / Martha+Axel with Axel and pets flag
you won't be able to take plag to Asgard boss.
First team make ~9 mil vs 160 level and second ~9.5 mill.
All was safe and noone die. So can make some more damage if put put 1 healing hero i think.
The last one is not better, ~8.5 mil. Also noone died.
good luck in your real fights tomorrow!
is it you should show us the result info of every fight? this is the key data we need to know.
Can Peppy or Lian stunt those Harph or Horn?
Have you tried something using Peppy ? Maybe she can do great within an efficient magic team (using Mushy apparently ?).
aurora mushy orion thea celeste
because pure damage is always the same ?
Can you try Jhu in place of Heidi in these teams? And he does pure damage!
but other hereos are not good vs this boss. no need seb, isaac in team. So better to build new one team with heidi.
Mushy & Shtroom - Nebula - Peppy - Lilith - Martha ?
i will look later. thanks.
Seems Lilith can be good here!
try to include orian as its get additional enery so that more attack.
tryed some teams with him. but it not much more.
Some heroes need to be hit to do maximum damage. Maya for example, she performs better as a tank!
where is 20m damage team you said
Anyone's here now to give some feedback ? :)
if was from fist week. Lots of team works fine. But also we found new better team.
Thank you
thanks! nice to meet you here too ^^
I wish success to your discord server ;)
Hi Deda. Thank you for the video. Is there a way we can test the boss as well before friday? How do you get access to the fight?
I said about it already in other commetns. I got a solution for it, but i can't promote it.
my goal is just to give some info about new boss here.
Does morrigan's skeletons or mushy's copies take horns stuns instead of heroes?
I tryed Elmir and Astrid&Lucas. They don't work and can't get stuns.
Didn't try morrigan, but seems it will not work.
In game all heroes got own ID number and boss skill can focus only for this ID.
Also any next hero they can make with immune to this spell.
It will be good promotion and usefull hero then, like it was with Lara.
I will discuss this option with the developer team.
Someone have an opinion about Lian (control effect and magical damages) ? And Faceless ?
🎁Does the last NEWS called "Sounds Tasy!" means that Chabba will be able to swallow the Harp ?
no, it is a fake.
Some heroes skills doesn't work for asgard bosses. Like also Vex pet doesn't work vs Osh.
@@dedaherowars Thanks for checking. Too bad, it could have revived Chabba the Hutt. 😅
cool
Hello is there a good Mushy team???
It is highly possible she does a great job.
yes, she is good.
I make ~17 mil with team with mushy. Is is one of best damage.
Mushy can improve some results on your solutions.
can Chabba swallow Harph or Horn?
they are too big for him)
Also faceless and Karkh can't put them to the air.