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Cirrus SR22 G1-G6 2020 Info, Cost, Variants, History
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2020
- Let's explore the Cirrus SR22, from G1 to 2020's G6. Looking at cost, history and the amazing parachute system!
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The SR22T is the top model. As of 2019 it goes for $985k loaded. The accident rates were due to the high performance, low drag, complex aircraft and the lack of training for new pilot and renters. Now Cirrus requires basic training with a trained factory CSIP before a new pilot can fly the plane. Also, in the beginning pilots were reticent to pull the chute given the history of always 'landing the plane' in case of emergency. The factory now trains pilots on a simulator and trains when and how to use the system.
Thank you for the explanation
The accident rate was high because people were reluctant to pull the caps handle. Better training which promoted use of the caps over a bad ditching/landing is what lowered the rate
great observation
Part of the reason was the chute which is new to most people before they fly a Cirrus. But these high performance aircraft were being rented to pilots not able to fly them...so Cirrus requires rental companies to offer transition training before renting one out...the factory will train rental company pilots gratis. Also training was made a focus and now Cirrus has the best training in the world.
Casually watching this as I dream about a Cirrus for work, and come across a picture of a younger me jumping... this is a fantastic machine
So cool! What’s next?
Congrats on the record and book! - Have any tips for my PPL checkride from a pro such as yourself? (and Cirrus acquisition advice ? ;) Thanks!
2006 was the SR22 *TN* rather than the SR22T (which came in 2010). The difference? The 2006-2009 SR22 TN had a turbo normalised set up, which means the turbo was not active until at high altitudes, where it worked to maintain manifold pressure at sea level. The SR22 and SR22 TN had the same *max power output* . The 2010+ SR22T has a full range set up, where the turbo is taken advantage of throughout the power and altitude range. The SR22T has a modest increase in max power over the normally-aspirated SR22.
amazing paracute system! i have always loved cirrus aircrafts
Those are not suicide doors. Suicide doors open front to back.
Correct. Could be rather called "butterfly" doors instead. I guess 🤔
@@BharatSecurityWatch Gull-wing Doors. That's what they'd normally be called on a car, I think.
@@coling88 No ,its scissors doors. Gullwing door are opened from the roof,sideways up, like the wings on a bird.
@@golix1344 You're absolutely right. I was mistaken.
That's not the only thing he got wrong. Someone was more interested in making money off clicks than actually doing research on Cirrus.
This guy's great. Keep the humor :)
great video mate. keep it up
Nice overview. Except those are not suicide doors. That would destroy the fuselage if opened in flight. Cirrus has scissor doors
Great video, good job covering the different models!
The Cirrus accident rates were reduced via training. The aircraft is HIGH PERFORMANCE and COMPLEX. Few pilots are able to just jump in one and fly it without 10 to 20 hours of transition training. Three models are made SR20, SR22 and SR22T Turbo.
HP yes, but NOT complex. It has neither retractable gear nor a controllable pitch speed prop. It does have flaps :) But so does (nearly) every other plane made in the last 50+ years.
@@Vejitasei What are you talking about? The prop is constant speed and VERY large. The gear is fixed but costs no drag penalty and makes the plane safer and costs less to insure thanks to that. Cirrus was first to use the BRS chute, all carbon fiber and a NASA split wing to allow use of ailerons during any stall. They are equipped with Garmin glass and Garmin A/P and Garmin 3D sound so you can listen and monitor two radios at the same time. They also have ADS-B in/out, TCAS and TIS collision avoidance. And in cock-pit weather via Nexrad. Among the options are FIKI (flying into known ice) a titanium leading wing edge, a Sat phone, and fully IFR capable. The turbo version cruises at 200ktas with a range over 1100nm. Pattern speeds are 90ktas, over the numbers 80ktas.
@@Vejitasei Complex due to speed, agility, glass panel, feature set most pilots do not deal with in antiquated older aircraft like Cessnas and Pipers. Pilots coming from older aircraft will get behind the plane quickly without the training and experience. No one can just jump into a Cirrus cold and fly it with confidence.
@@speedomars
As a SR22 pilot/owner, I agree with you about flying the Cirrus cold not being a good idea. But, FAA part 61.1b (Applicability and Definitions) states "Complex airplane means an airplane that has a retractable landing gear, flaps, and a controllable pitch propeller, including airplanes equipped with an engine control systems consisting of a digital computer and associated accessories for controlling the engine and propeller..." Bottom line, the SR22 is not categorized as a "Complex" airplane as it has fixed landing gear not retractable.
@@jscott0071 I know the regs. I did not refer to them. I used the word "complex", which is an adjective: 1.
consisting of many different and connected parts. Synonyms: complicated, elaborate, multifarious, technical.
I bought new a 2016 G5 SR22T. My plane before the CIrrus was a Flight Design CTLSi (heavy stick/rudder skills needed). Despite having 500 hours in the logbook and having flown Cessnas, Pipers and a Mooney, insurance required me to fly 25 hours with a CSIP. It still took me two years of flying the plane to learn all of the intricacies and ways to get into and out of trouble. Imagine some guy renting an SR22 or SR22T coming from steam gauges or worse? Coming from a Cessna 172 or 182? That's why the accident stats were a problem for Cirrus before Cirrus corrected it by REQUIRING at least an hour of transition training with an experience Cirrus driver before even renting the plane.
That shot of a flyover at 7:06... that doesn't look like a Cirrus SR 20/22. To me it looks more like a vans RV wing.
Lamborghini doors are ‘scissor’ doors.
nicely shot video. thank you.
Sr22 should have foldable landing gear
They will fold on a heavy landing.
The reason why this plane ha terribrecord when it comes to fatalities it's., Encourage people to learn to fly who would not otherwise have the guts too and it's because the plane has a parachute. This is what is bringing out everybody to think that they can fly when they should never ever left the ground.
I spin my cirrus. It's rated for spin in Europe. Spinning it is very easy ibut don't try it without training
What is the Vans RV doing in this video ?
Oh, I thought it was in Xplane 11! LoL
well me too....the initial footage...
1:50 ''however the fatal accident rate is 1.6 ...''
I may have accidentally solved this question/
puzzle for you in my previous comment, ck this
out and let us know what you find, here is
part of what I wrote.. ;
''...2nd
issue is that the parachute from what I
understand requires min 600ft AGL in order
to save you, since most fatalities initiate
within about 300' AGL, this does not
excite me. The rest of the features are
awesome. OOPS, I almost forgot, there
is a channel claiming that getting out
of a stall spin in this is very difficult
at best, hence the parachute had
to be added for that reason, I think the
channel was touting the Diamond DA 62,
while the DA 62 recovery is supposedly
'easy' to recover...''
How can they improve this aircraft some more?
But he doesn't mention that the plane could not be certified to fly if it didn't have a parachute. So basically, you are purchasing a fancy portable parachute carrier. Without the parachute the plane would be worthless..
2:20 You are claiming that the subsequent
less fatalities is
probably due to better training regarding
the 'chute' system, I don't believe any of
that. Better training on how to safely
fly might be a factor, but improved
training in the use of the
chute, no , not buying any of that.
EDIT*; See Floridaflying's video:
The Panthera is FAST, Efficient, and BEAUTIFUL
Before running your mouth about myths, lol
RE; Spin issues with Cirrus
--Orig comment:
Love this with two exceptions, if it
kicks over on it's top during a mishap
and catches fire you burn to death, 2nd
issue is that the parachute from what I
understand requires min 600ft AGL in order
to save you, since most fatalities initiate
within about 300' AGL, this does not
excite me. The rest of the features are
awesome. OOPS, I almost forgot, there
is a channel claiming that getting out
of a stall spin in this is very difficult
at best, hence the parachute had
to be added for that reason, I think the
channel was touting the Diamond DA 62,
while the DA 62 recovery is supposedly
'easy' to recover..
:shrugs:
...*Edit cont.... lmao, no myth , and I'd love to see where they publish
pull the chute under 600' , right, pull it at 300' , why not, well
yeah, who wouldn't pull it, but that is not the point,
lets see where that is published.
The myth is not a myth,
the competition posted a video, and stated emphatically that
they did not pass certification for spins, and were required to
include the ballistic chute, and not as an option, mandatory
because of the issue with spin recovery.
And how to you escape again, if you have a a roll over mishap on
the ground of any nature?
The impossible turn and base to final are fatal situations for all aircraft, not just the Cirrus. Cirrus advises to still pull the chute regardless of being below optimal altitude. You are wrong about spin testing - repeating the nasty myth. The SR series passed spin testing in Europe (EASA). The FAA did not require it due to the presence of the chute. If you want to forgo using the chute and recover from a spin you are welcome to do that the same as with any other aircraft.
It’s increasingly like a car
I cant even operate a computer mouse left handed!
1:06 I don't get how something so expensive can also be a best seller. Are they only counting new units? Half a million is an unbelievably good deal if you can find one that low.
Easy. It is a superior product.
DA50 RG looks promising...
first diamond i would even consider getting honestly lol.
The DA50 RG would compete with the SR22, not the SR22T. It has a ceiling of only FL20...and a max cruise of 180ktas. It lacks a BRS chute and so will suffer the same fate as the Cessna TTx? Worse. It may come with retractable gear which is a deal killer. The extra insurance cost and the barrier to get insurance of 100 hours with a CFI in retractable gear plane will keep most of the market away. This is the same problem Pipistrel will face with the Panthera.
@@speedomars and the engine diesel engine it uses is maintenance hog ,it cannot be overhauled but its replaced instead when it reaches tbo
The cost of GA airplanes, operating costs, and insurance makes it less and less appealing. It has gone from very expensive to complete insanity.
Now owned by the Chinese !
So what? Don't care. Getting one for sure.
@@alizierny It matters to me. Love Cirrus but its a matter of principle and a love for my country.
@@allenking7532 I have a Volvo and I love it, its also owned by the Chinese, however all the people that designed, built it and operate the factory are anything but Chinese. Its just money that was invested in to that company, its business- nothing more. Pretty much same with Cirrus
@@alizierny You've made it clear, its just business as it is for me. I choose not to invest/buy from a company that sold out to a Communist regime that is aggressively advancing its oppressive agenda globally. To me it is a choice that has allowed us to explore other GA options. Very pleased with the direction we are going; a better built, more efficient, more modern twin that is more economic to fly and not owned by the Chicoms. TO ME IT MATTERS!
@@allenking7532 both Diamond and Piper are owned by us too...man
7:05 is not a circus.,.
You are correct, there is not one clown, elephant or lion tamer! LOL, sorry couldn’t resist😎
There is no G4
Please Please Please lord let me win the lottery and I promise to give most of it away and only keep enough to buy this and enjoy it. Please please please
For north of $700,000 as reported in the video. There is a host of other aircraft out there that you can get a lot more for your money. But for me one that comes to mind that I would like to have, would be the Mooney family of aircraft. Regrettably I think the Mooney family as well, has at least the Chinese partner involved in their business as well. We really need to buy American for those of us who live in America and abroad and stop giving money to our potential enemies. One man's opinion Dion YT: #Dionm01
apple is made in china, most laptops are made in China, "The US imports a lot of stuff from China. Over $560 billion worth of goods came into the US from China in 2018, making up more than 21% of the value of all goods the US imported." info from qz.com/1654798/these-are-the-products-the-us-is-most-reliant-on-china-for/
Mcquang Nguyen só you agree....we have to change that.
Continental engines is owned by chineese lol
@@victordasilva5255 I not agree
Also cirrus was founded in the US. Cirrus as multiple factorys in the us. So most of the planes are made in the US
Jesus... 500-800 G for an airplane with ONE propeller.. Where do people get their money?
It’s more than that. Back in March right as the world stopped spinning, I got a quote from cirrus sales for a fully spec 2020 SR-22T GTS and by the time all the options were added it was a little over a million... $1,010,000. With $200k down and financing $800k, the monthly payments are pennies a month under $4800. Based on 250 hrs flight time per year the total including mortgage, insurance, fixed & variable costs total $110,000 a year. It’s a beautiful plane but I’ll need to weigh it against older examples of bigger singles, twins, turboprops of each and of course Eclipse 500 jets can be gad used for that kind of money, too, competing directly with the Cirrus Vision Jet SF50, but the Vision now sells for $3 million. It’s tough to swallow that pill when the Eclipse and Cessna Citations can be had in that range... the Eclipse is actually cheaper to fly per mile/hour because it gets there quicker than the Vision... there is a video up here that makes that case.
@@wayneco Damn! And yet, it's currently the most popular new single-engine plane in the market.
@@wayneco Do they negotiate on the price? I would think $1M is "sticker" price, but I am not familiar with aircraft purchases and trying to get a discount. I did notice used (2019/2018) fully loaded going for $850K ASKING price , hence 1M is really sticker shock.
Sean F I didn't get the idea that there was much negotiating I do know that they talked about giving me a free year subscription to all the charts and maps and stuff and I believe they were going extend the extended warranty further and they want to use my plane for the first few months as a customer demonstration plane and they were going to pay me a couple hundred dollars an Hobbs hour to do that, plus they were going to warehouse, fuel and maintain the plane for the time they had it and that was part of the process to legally avoid paying $100,000 in sales tax to my state by using it and immediately putting it to work primarily outside the state for some number of months before I brought into my state permanently. As you can imagine the incentive to legally avoid sales tax on million or tens of million dollar items is worth it... in the meantime I was going to lease or rent by the hour something local to me as a stop-gap. This is all new to me and I’m actually involved in spec’ing and purchasing two aircraft at the same time, I’m also looking for a bush plane I can put big Alaskan tundra tires on for backcountry flying and also put floats on as well. I’ve definitely got my brain and hands full crash-coursing on aircraft ownership details. For jets it’s again much more complex, with yearly recertifications, and turbines in subscription programs, etc. the annuals or periodic inspections aren’t a thousand or few dollars like on a piston aircraft, they could be a hundred thousand or few dollars.
@@wayneco Thanks for the detailed reply. I live in California, hence the tax on a purchase like this would be close to 10%, although there are some exemptions. As far as discounts, if they are pushing all those "freebees", it sounds like there are no discounts. I guess if you want a fully loaded SR22 GTS with everything its going to be 1M, take it or leave it. The irony is, a lot of people complain about the Mooney prices, but they are not this high from my research and you can get a discount. If the economy really tanks, they may change their tune, but as of now I guess they are selling all they produce.
brittish accent???
Yep I’m from Yorkshire
My god, you're good!
@@droge192 im not native english speaker
@@StoriesofAviation Say hello to Parky!
I dont think pilot Mike is actually a pilot.......misleading name a piss poor facts