incredibly fine singing and orchestral playing...setting absurd...that such distraction surrounds the fine artistry is unforgiveable... but Bert Brecht is smiling from his grave..Verfremdungsefect supreme...
Wir waren hier in der Premiere. Orchestral und gesanglich absolut hochklassig. Stuttgart hat eines der besten Opernhäuser in Europa, nicht zu vergessen. Wir sind darüber hinaus der Meinung, dass man Oper nicht mehr konventionell inszenieren darf. Wie langweilig wäre das auch? Die Inszenierung des ersten Aktes der Walküre allerdings: absolut ein Fehlgriff! So etwas katastrophales haben wir in Liveopern oder Opern im Fernsehen noch nie gesehen. Der zweite und dritte Akt sind angenehmer inszeniert.
Wonderful singing, wonderful orchestra-playing, wonderful, exciting, conducting. I still don't understsnd the staging, but one need'nt understand everything. I'll catch some meaning on my next viewing. Anyhow, thanks a lot for uploading this video!
Gee, I did not know that Sigmund was Sieglinde's grandfather. You may need a mature voice for Wagner but they could at least have tried to make him look a little like the sensual young hero that he is supposed to be.
Would somebody mind explaining what's going on here? I know in the previous Stuttgart Ring they gave each of the four operas to a different director and cast, with the only constant being the conductor and orchestra. The ostensible reason was to get a top-notch production of each opera without the director and cast being stretched over an entire cycle. For me it didn't work. A Ring without continuity seems a bit pointless. The Rheingold was very good, but the rest, meh. So have they given each ACT to a different production and design team this time? Has anyone ventured to explain why?
Yes, each act was given a different director, no idea why. I think the upcoming Siegfried and Gotterdammerung will have 1 director each, not 3 each. The overall problem seems like the directors are artists from a different genre and they don't really understand how to perform/direct opera. In some cases it feels more like an "installation" with little to no dramatic impact that is tied to the story.
@@gslazar Thank you for that. I always try to open my mind to a new regietheater production on the grounds that this is surely the creation of someone who has thought long and deeply about the work and being too quick with naked-emperor accusations is not helpful. But sometimes, and this is one of them, I really can't find anything. Die Walküre is an intensely emotional black tragedy. Four people (five if we include Fricka) whom we have come to care about experience the most tragic of outcomes, and in the case of the twins this comes after experiencing the only happiness they have known in their adult lives. We should be following their tragedies as intensely involved participants, not looking at expressionless people performing puzzling actions and wondering what the hell any of this is supposed to mean. It's not even about not knowing how to perform/direct opera, it's about apparently not understanding the work they're putting on stage. The Ring is a difficult work, and a new production should be trying to help audiences to a better understanding of it. Not really possible if the director doesn't understand it. It seems that running barely-relevant visual images as the music unfolds is a substitute for saying something meaningful. It seems to be playing to other theatre luvvies, look at these images I'm producing that are different from those anyone else has produced, and to that section of the audience that wants to appear ultra-sophisticated. I don't see what anyone who really loves the Ring is going to get out of this, or worse still, how anyone new to the work has any chance of gaining an understanding of its dramatic complexities.
My thought as well. Once or twice that strictured vocal timbre may have had some expressive significance, but otherwise it seemed an integral part of her tone.
@@walkure48sorry, you dont know a lot about opera. Stuttgart is one of the leading opera houses in europe. May be a performance is not so brilliant, but your description - provincial- is beside the point.
Yet another disrespectful, goofball European production, and German at that. What's wrong with these people that they make mockeries of great operas? I tuned in to listen to that great vorspiel but the idiotic rat puppets completely turned me off. I'm SO grateful that the Metropolitan Opera doesn't stoop to this kind of crap. Some productions skirt the edges but they get retired. The comments earlier are too polite. How do you say BARF and FOR SHAME? in German?
The opening was so silly until I realized how BRILLIANT it is ! Genius!
Well, the sound is great. And it's well-sung.
incredibly fine singing and orchestral playing...setting absurd...that such distraction surrounds the fine artistry is unforgiveable... but Bert Brecht is smiling from his grave..Verfremdungsefect supreme...
Wir waren hier in der Premiere. Orchestral und gesanglich absolut hochklassig. Stuttgart hat eines der besten Opernhäuser in Europa, nicht zu vergessen.
Wir sind darüber hinaus der Meinung, dass man Oper nicht mehr konventionell inszenieren darf. Wie langweilig wäre das auch?
Die Inszenierung des ersten Aktes der Walküre allerdings: absolut ein Fehlgriff!
So etwas katastrophales haben wir in Liveopern oder Opern im Fernsehen noch nie gesehen. Der zweite und dritte Akt sind angenehmer inszeniert.
Wonderful singing, wonderful orchestra-playing, wonderful, exciting, conducting. I still don't understsnd the staging, but one need'nt understand everything. I'll catch some meaning on my next viewing. Anyhow, thanks a lot for uploading this video!
Brava Sieglinde...should have been cast as Brunnhilde.
This is a fine opera - but seriously - don't watch it, just listen ... (this production I mean).
I have the same opinion. 1. Akt : terrible direction
Puppets are a nifty effect.
What's with the Rat Heads?.....This aint the Nutcracker
You lost me with the chair...
They lost me with the mouse masks, and it’s not particularly well-sung. The base sounds like a baritone singing below his natural range.
Bass. I hate spellcheck
@@ColonelFredPuntridgeah, the mouse mask. Hi, Mr. Nutcracker ballet dancer. This mask looks fun. Can I borrow it for the theatre next door? Sure. 😂😅
Gee, I did not know that Sigmund was Sieglinde's grandfather. You may need a mature voice for Wagner but they could at least have tried to make him look a little like the sensual young hero that he is supposed to be.
😂 they always do this same thing with Parsifal
much better stage than the Rheingold, but that big sword looks a little silly..
Verrückt close your eyes
Oy!
Would somebody mind explaining what's going on here? I know in the previous Stuttgart Ring they gave each of the four operas to a different director and cast, with the only constant being the conductor and orchestra. The ostensible reason was to get a top-notch production of each opera without the director and cast being stretched over an entire cycle. For me it didn't work. A Ring without continuity seems a bit pointless. The Rheingold was very good, but the rest, meh.
So have they given each ACT to a different production and design team this time? Has anyone ventured to explain why?
Yes, each act was given a different director, no idea why. I think the upcoming Siegfried and Gotterdammerung will have 1 director each, not 3 each. The overall problem seems like the directors are artists from a different genre and they don't really understand how to perform/direct opera. In some cases it feels more like an "installation" with little to no dramatic impact that is tied to the story.
@@gslazar Thank you for that. I always try to open my mind to a new regietheater production on the grounds that this is surely the creation of someone who has thought long and deeply about the work and being too quick with naked-emperor accusations is not helpful. But sometimes, and this is one of them, I really can't find anything.
Die Walküre is an intensely emotional black tragedy. Four people (five if we include Fricka) whom we have come to care about experience the most tragic of outcomes, and in the case of the twins this comes after experiencing the only happiness they have known in their adult lives. We should be following their tragedies as intensely involved participants, not looking at expressionless people performing puzzling actions and wondering what the hell any of this is supposed to mean.
It's not even about not knowing how to perform/direct opera, it's about apparently not understanding the work they're putting on stage. The Ring is a difficult work, and a new production should be trying to help audiences to a better understanding of it. Not really possible if the director doesn't understand it. It seems that running barely-relevant visual images as the music unfolds is a substitute for saying something meaningful.
It seems to be playing to other theatre luvvies, look at these images I'm producing that are different from those anyone else has produced, and to that section of the audience that wants to appear ultra-sophisticated. I don't see what anyone who really loves the Ring is going to get out of this, or worse still, how anyone new to the work has any chance of gaining an understanding of its dramatic complexities.
it was gobsmackingly stupid ... though the orchestra were (of course) first class.
@@foveauxbear I thought I'd seen about as bad as it could get with the Ring, especially Walküre, particularly with Herheim. Then this happens.
1:03:35 notung
Is that soprano unable to produce sound unless she crushes her larynx?
My thought as well. Once or twice that strictured vocal timbre may have had some expressive significance, but otherwise it seemed an integral part of her tone.
:(
Things won’t get any better until singers (who know better) tell these directors (who don’t) to go pound sand. What an embarrassment
I get the war associations. But all the rest? Stupid nonsense.
Terrible ! Listen the orchester which is quite good...and try to forget the rest !
People paid to see "that" ?
seems they did - and this year those fools even paid more to watch the crap at Bayreuth! all those cretin directors will rot in hell...
Not only the orchestra, the singers also are quite good!
@@hyperion700 Maybe by 21st century standards, but they are very, very provincial.
@@walkure48sorry, you dont know a lot about opera. Stuttgart is one of the leading opera houses in europe. May be a performance is not so brilliant, but your description - provincial- is beside the point.
Sehr befremdlich...oder einfach nur blödsinnig?
Somebody has to explain the giant plastic rat heads the two sturdy types are carrying. And why is one of them wearing a Scottish kilt?
Probably the worst setting and costumes ive ever seen. This makes modernized shakespeare theatre look decent.
Yet another disrespectful, goofball European production, and German at that. What's wrong with these people that they make mockeries of great operas? I tuned in to listen to that great vorspiel but the idiotic rat puppets completely turned me off. I'm SO grateful that the Metropolitan Opera doesn't stoop to this kind of crap. Some productions skirt the edges but they get retired. The comments earlier are too polite. How do you say BARF and FOR SHAME? in German?