"CARDIONICS" MIKE MENTZER'S FORGOTTEN TRAINING PROGRAM
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While many people know that Mike created Heavy Duty training for building muscular size and strength, few are aware that he created one of the first-ever training programs that utilized weight training to develop cardiovascular fitness. He called it “Cardionics,” and together with a Maryland physician, Paul DeVore, they used it to help the doctor’s patients who were suffering from obesity and high blood pressure. It was a truly historical undertaking and further proof that Mike was ahead of the curve when it came to bringing science out of the laboratory and into the gymnasium.
Many thanks to Ironman magazine publisher John Balik for allowing me to use his incredible copyrighted photographs of Mike Mentzer throughout this video.
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I said HDC is #1 and this is further proof. Your channel reigns supreme in disseminating HIT intel with 0 filler or self-promotion which is most likley how Mike would have wanted it.
Im concerned about the fake AI mentzer stuff goin around nowadays and I know atleast here that wont happen
Not at HDC.
@@nigel7880 Thank you.
Mike was right. I used to be a very bad long distance runner in school. After I did body-building for two years I was astonished how fast and long I could run the distance.
No cardio for me-just HIT for years and a pneumonologist asked me if I train for some kind of marathon or some kind of championship,when she measured my perfect condition lungs!She was amazed when I told her that I only properly strength train!😅
just smashed out 10 heavy reps of squats today and felt like i had sprinted 500 meters its no joke ha
But you have been doing cardio. Just a different way. That's the point. Your strength training sessions are a BOGO. You build strength and muscle, and get cardio for free.
Mr. Little, this video is amazing. This channel never fails to amaze. I’ve done my best to read and watch everything by/about mike mentzer over the past few years. Recently I was beginning to think I knew just about all there was to know about him. That was until this video. I’m going to try and find the book that was shown in this video. Would be cool to expand my Mentzer collection.
Thanks for your post.
High intensity sets of weightlifting performed in quick succession seems analogous to high intensity interval training which is understood today to be the greatest way to improve cardiovascular fitness.
Great info! I grew up in Northern Va. Across the river and I never knew. Mike wasn't the first, but it sounds like he was the first to put in the research.
Doing HIT for years with 0 cardio, have perfect blood pressure and heart rate although 240lb at 6'1, funny that one colleague of mine does high volume training daily and is around 150lb at 6 feet and has worst blood pressure and heart rate...
Overtraining can kill you even if you look fit.
very true just people going 6 times a week to weightlift can ruin your body, the same is true to long and frequent cardio work
the worst is your muscles can regenerate faster from a mid long run so people feel they can do it more, specially when they leave the beginner stage
@@Aiolosz indeed, the muscle regenerate fast - even from weightlifting but the problem is the systemic fatigue
Thank you for this!
62, do HIT four times a week and walk 5 miles 5-6 days a week....feel great !
I've thought several times after finishing a set to momentary muscular failure and beyond that there must be some cardio stress and improvement. I could not and still can't see how the cardio system would not be improving when after my set all I can do is huff and puff until my breathing slows and some feeling returns to the target muscle. It's pretty obvious that something is occuring even if you've been led to believe it's not. Great video. I had never heard of this before. Thanks very much.
Was breathing heavy today after squats and all the other heavy compound movements to failure...there has to be
Exactly, when I'm doing those intense work out, my heart is beating so fast just like if i were doing a cardio workout.
Your videos are the best in providing an in depth compreehension and refinement of several points of HIT. Not only now I do not worry about the correct aproach to strenght exercise, but also to the ingestion of protein, caloric intake, cardiorespiratory fitness, etc.
Thank you!
Great video, thanks for the effort and research. I hope this channel grows and Mike's getting the attention he deserves
Much appreciated!
What you should remember from Mentzer’s remarks…..exercise to failure then you need more rest than you think you need to maximize muscle and fitness gains, most people overtrain
Great video John, I not heard or Seen this one and I never spoke to him personally about anything like this thank you keep up the good work
Love your video!!keep up the good work!! Much Love from Myanmar(asia).😍
Thank you so much!!
I just got my VO2 max test done after doing a year of HIT no cardio and my performance was better than 4 years ago when I was doing interval cardio with high volume 6 days a week. VO2 obviously went down a bit as a trade off for a larger anaerobic threshold but ability to perform at higher intensities was surprisingly good!
I would have liked to see Kenneth Cooper debate Arthur Jones.
It was actually a team of Dr. Kenneth Cooper’s physicians that conducted the cardiovascular tests (60 in all) on the subjects at West Point for the “Total Conditioning” study. He certainly knew from that about the cardiovascular benefits of resistance training.
Hit training for me , checked my blood pressure, 117/75 , I’m 61😊
Thank you for bringing so much good information!
@@johnmakaron3381 You’re welcome! Glad you are enjoying it.
At age 60 in July 2024, i performed a stress test at my cardiologist's office. I perform zero conventional cardiovascular training, as 2 failed knee surgeries have left me unable to run. I perform 3-4 high intensity weight sessions weekly for 1 hour or less each. The technician had to turn up the speed several times on the treadmill in an attempt to finally get my heart rate to the required 135 bpm. From the looks of the other patients in the waiting room, it appeared that simply walking to the treadmill would overexert them. Pitiful condition we Americans are in.
Great work great video. Keep up the fantastic video
Many thanks. I’ll do my best.
Great content more plz
Pretty cool to find this film of the West Point study. Too bad the Colorado Experiment film was mostly destroyed.
Excellent content as always, thank you!
Olá John. Um seguidor me perguntou pq ultilizar barra reta e não a corda no tríceps press down. Qual o motivo de Mike não aconselhar usar corda no press down?
Great Video
Thanks!
I’ve always wondered if there was a Mike Mentzer / HIT response to cardio endurance training which I could use to get through the many rounds of Boxing that we do.
This is one of the main reasons l alternate between HIT for building strength and HIIT (Sprint 8) for fat loss. No "steady state" or high volume workouts. Three times a week in the gym is more than enough for me.
Have you found the HIIT sessions to be beneficial for fat loss more than reducing calories and just doing the hit weight training sessions?
@@dm8127 Absolutely, yes!
Personally, l hate to diet. However, most people would consider my eatting habits very healthy. Being pass 50 years old, my metabolism has slowed down over the years. Thus, l have incorporated Phil Campbell's Sprint 8 (HIIT) system, and it works great for me. Ideally, l try to keep my body weight around 200 lbs. I both of Mike's HIT books, via Mr. John Little. However, with respect to Mike and John, people have to find what best works for them. Thats a process!
@@dm8127 yes! HIIT works great for fast loss, and it allows me to maintain some degree of muscle. However, if l want start putting on more muscle and size, a return back to strength training 3x a week. In short, its a balance between the two.
1:40 WOAH
It amaze me the language of that time..such rich words
Great content, as always!
Does You (or anybody else) knows is ,,Mr America's Total physical fitness weight control program" book (from 8:33 minute of the video) available in e-format?
Not yet.
HDC do you have any information if MM ever spoke about Jumping rope? and his thoughts on it? if he ever did. Thanks! love the channel.
@@Black-Circle Thanks for the kind words. I have not come across anything in my archive about Mike jumping rope. Like most of us, he certainly would’ve known that it was a good cardiovascular exercise and also good for coordination and timing. However, I don’t think he did it in his training.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Yeah that's what I thought. I do like jumping rope especially for the weight loss aspect.
So does anyone have the program?
So where is the program?
@@arikhan8804 It’s a video about the program, not schematics. The video does provide an overview of what the program consisted of.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE where can we get access to it? I wanna train by it
Mike and Dr. DeVore we’re going to write a book on the method in 1977. However, after Mike moved to California, the book was put on the back burner and was never completed. The two did collaborate on a book on the diet that they put the patients on (the photo of it appears in the video), but not the cardio program.
HEAVY DUTY JOURNAL...Mike details his pre-contest routine in great detail. Weights, diet, even his steroid dosages...and a TON of CARDIO!!!....Would you believe 4 MILES of Jogging in the Morning and then 10 Miles of Bicycle in the evening?...Along with 30 minutes of posing in the afternoon. On top of his usual Heavy Duty session's. (3-4 sessions per week then)...Clearly it shows how much Mike valued AND excelled at cardio pre-contest....And if getting in Mr.America,Universe,Olympia shape could ever be truly "low volume?"...LOWER than his competitors to be sure. But there are no shortcuts. Mike put in the work.
He did put in the work - but only before a contest in order to rid his body of any visible traces of fat. And this was typically for only three to four weeks prior to competition in conjunction with a reduced calorie diet. In the off season, he did not do posing practice, nor engage in any form of cardio, save the aerobic effects derived from his high-intensity training. The off season was for maintaining or building muscle, pre contest was for losing body fat and retaining muscle. They were two different approaches to reach two entirely different goals. The volume people are spending hours per week in the gym even in the off season, which, while good for endurance, is not so good for building muscle size as the stimulus they are applying is to increase endurance (low intensity/long duration) rather than increase size and strength (high intensity/brief duration).
If you talk to his training partners, even later in life, he trained each muscle once per week. He told others to take such a long time of between workouts. Yes, you can grow, but it's not necessary or optimal to hit each muscle less than once per week. It seems Mike did things one way himself and recommended other things to clients. That's why Dorian Yates had to adapt the training.
Yes, Mike did recommend less training for those clients of his that were not on steroids. That’s an important point to remember. I’ve spoken to all of Mike’s training partners, incidentally. For the 1980s Mr. Olympia, Mike was only training three days out of every 10 on a split routine, so some bodyparts did only get trained once a week - and that was when he was on steroids, which enhanced his recovery ability. If you watched any of Mike’s other videos, he makes the point that genetics play a huge role in one’s recovery ability, with some able to recover relatively quickly, and others not so quickly. Consequently, some trainees require less volume and frequency. That’s why you cannot have a cookie cutter, one size fits all, system of sets and workouts. Mike’s later recommendations came after personally training some 2000 clients, most of whom were not on steroids, and so he had to pay particular attention to the volume and frequency he subjected them to. When Mike trained with slightly higher sets himself, he wrote about that. And when he was training clients and discovered that they could not tolerate that volume and frequency, he wrote about that. It wasn’t a case of saying one thing and writing about another. Context is important, such as the era in which he wrote.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE I just want people not to get frustrated with Heavy Duty if the do not achieve a competition ready physique with training every 96-120 hours with very limited volume....I have no doubt that you can get bigger and stronger on such a routine. ( and for some people that is enough)....But one of the obvious drawbacks of training so little is not burning as many calories and keeping the metabolism high.
Mike realised this and used jogging, biking and daily posing, along with a LOW calorie diet as compensation.
@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Mine made it seem like most people need more rest. The majority of people are fine with hitting each muscle group once per week. Many can even hit some muscle groups twice a week. The average person is better off doing full body like Arthur Jones recommended or at least upper/ lower body split. The only thing is the short rest periods aren't necessary unless you want cardio benefits.