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@@princeofpokemon2934 You DARE insult the Emperor’s morality?! Heresy! HERESY!!! *fires several bolter shots, misses every one, and hits a couple guardsmen instead* … they were probably heretics, too!
>Ignoring Emperor allowing Cult of Mechanicum to grow as he uses their techs to conquer more planets and star systems >Ignoring Emperor tolerating the Runepriests of Fenris that pretty much became a sect of later Imperial Cult (and making Space Wolves so formidable that they gave Inquisition so many regrets during "Month of Shame") >Ignoring Emperor tolerating the denizens of Ba'al to venerate Sanguinius (though only to limited degree) It's already clear that Emperor's last surviving contingency plan is to frame future growing Imperial Cult within Imperium to specific sects and cults from the carcass of secularistic imperial truth doctrines, also Games Workshop's Black Library authors still haven't explained how Power of Faith are different from any Warpcraft (Chaos or non-Chaos based) that even both Necron Pylons and Great Rift opened by Chaos factions doesn't affected it's psychic prowess
@@princeofpokemon2934 In the original canon he was, and it led to him being completely oblivious to the fact that his sons would betray him. They ruined the Emperor by making him arrogant, foolhardy and self-important, when the original lore was that he loved humanity to a fault, got obliterated by those he cared for most and was forced to slay his chosen son. GW is on a kick of god awful writing and retcons though, so maybe it's temporary.
Imagine this: Ollanius Persson was just chilling in his home, setting up a farm during his stay on Calth. One day, while wandering a city to pass the time, he comes across a healthy-looking young boy with dark brown skin, who seems to have lost his parents somewhere in the metropolis. Ollanius, out of pity, decides to help the boy, who seems quite infatuated with the Ultramarines stationed there (the boy is probably distracted by how cool the Ultrasmurfs were that he lost track of this parents) After hours of exploring, the boy's parents were found, and the family was reunited. Before leaving, however, Ollanius gave the dark-skinned boy a piece of bread to eat, and then, left without a word. That boy is Chairon.
@muhammadahmad1851 according to history there was actually black people in the roman empire. And also if we consider that ultramar is a whole sector comprising multiple colonized systems, statisticaly and logically there will be people of color in there somewhere so having a black ultramarine should not be a surprise ;)
@@ciseauàbois I'm talking about Roman's Roman, like original Italians. If these woke bullshit really needed to shove it down our throat, why they didn't make Black White Scars too? Cause I bet the black people already reach Mongol in the past. Need a black Marines? The Salamander would be enough, I'm Asian and I'm happy enough to see White Scar. Never thought every legion needed to have Asians in them lol
@@ciseauàbois For the record, that doesn't mean there was any substantial population of sub-saharan africans within, say Italy or Greece. They would primarily be within Egypt, particularly the Southern half which was known for having a higher Nubian population since Egypt's height. Otherwise yeah, Ultramar is a state of at least *five hundred planets* Considering our ONE planet has produced dozens of different phenotypes of Humans, it makes sense that there'd be at least one planet that has at least SOME brown people.
One of my favourite bits from TEatD Vol III was Ollanius trying to talk sense into the Emperor about the whole DK thing and has to talk through the smoldering Custodes, it took a buddy from 40,000 years ago to crack it into his skull that melting his banana boys whilst gathering as much Warp energy as possible wasn't one of the E's great ideas lol
It's funny that banana boys/Custodes being completely revisioned into "gender-inclusive" (except no Brother/Meister of Silence ofc, because lying about "equality" is great) happens by several months after Warhammer Horus Heresy/30K novel series ended (and all of the novels considered Custodes to be all-boys)
This means that Oll has thousands of years worth of combat experience under his belt. If I remember correctly, he even used a trick he learned during WW1 in "Know No Fear".
I mean its easy for him to know no fear as if he was shot with artillery round on top of his head he would still get up. He would have probably been way more impressed by all the ordinary people around him doing the same as him without extra lives.
Imagine if Ollanius and the Emperor stayed in touch and he had occasionally visited his humble farmer friend to stay grounded. Primarch would have gotten Uncle Olly and would have gotten drop on his farm to experience human life for a decade or two
And that would have been better how? It would do the opposite of grounding the emperor. It would further reinforce the idea that mankind should not be trusted with its own fate. Olly was the perfect example of giving up. Nothing else. He was pathetic. As the emperor told him, he had lived of countless millennia and he had nothing to show for it. It would disgust the primearchs. Even the nicer ones, knowing how old olly was and how little he had to show for it.
@@62sy And what Emperor achieved with his myriads of years of scheming and god like power? Nothing that he wanted, humanity barely survives. Ollanius achieved all he set out to achieve and the fact he kept fighting tells you he never gave up, just worked on smaller scale. (To be fair he was an example of how doing the opposite the Emperor did, small scale stuff, isn’t enough.) For primarchs to have both opinions visible through out the crusade would have been beneficial, as those that had a human perceptive arguable turned out the best. (Corvus, Dorn, Guilliman, Jaghatai and Vulcan.)
@@scientistsupreme5211 it’s messed up because there’s a malevolent force trying to enslave it. Not because of the emperor. Human perspective? What a joke. No primearch went “I’ll sit this one out”. They fought because they believed in the emperor’s dream. They would have been disgusted by the likes of Olly… who GAVE UP. Who chose to do nothing when he had the chance to do something. That’s why Gulluiman, Corax and Vulkan were willing to commit genocide numerous times and go against their beliefs. Because they would rather do something then let mankind burn itself out. No primearch would even hear him out… and most would kill him on the spot.
Just for context: Pius lived for thousands of years before Jesus was born, and survived for 30 thousand years after Jesus' death. Yet this dude, who himself was essentially a demigod, truly believed that Jesus, a guy that lived for less than half a century, was the messiah and the son of the one true god. Weirder still, Ollanus specifically believed in the righteousness of the Catholic church, an institution he both predated and survived. To have such faith to hold on to your exact beliefs, unchanged, for literal MILLENIA, is honestly super impressive.
@@TriangulumGalaxy_1 I believe Pius wasn't didn't personally practice. But kept practicing the faith to keep the memory of his wife alive during his many thousands of years alone without her, waiting for day they may reunite.
Honestly in 40k that would put some weight behind Catholicism, like the guy born before Jesus decided that that specific sect was the right one? that says something. I wonder if he ever met jesus though.
So an apocalyptic trio of a shirtless, headband wearing emperor, explosives expert Malcador, and a camouflaged knife-weilding Ollanius fighting the Men of Iron as John Connors most trusted loose canons is officially canon.
Dan Abnett: The guy who saved the Emperor? He was actually an even older guy who fought Babylon, Napoleon and Saddam Hussein. Psychiatrist: I think he needs an extra jolt.
@@unknowncommenter6698 You could argue both of them were bad guys despite how beloved Napoleon is by a lot of people he was at his core a warmonger. It would be a lie to say it's not what he lived for. Hussein was also a bad man who wanted greatness for his country like Napoleon. I think it's important to highlight they were bad not evil like Hitler and Stalin.
@@unknowncommenter6698 waging wars of conquest and\or waging war for the spreading of ideology is inherently evil as you need to stomp on innocents to do so. There is no way to commit small amounts of evil for the greater good, evil is evil no matter the justification
@@unknowncommenter6698 Napoleon turned more into a ruthless dictator towards the end, While Saddam is bad gassing Iranian targets during the Iran-Iraq war, because of some oil fields
Or Gnostic Christian since it’s stated as “Cathar” (a French Christian group in medieval who had gnostic teachings and persecuted by it). That or linguistic drift jumbling Catholic with Catheric.
@@powerist209 imma go with the ladder on that one i dont think the writers are really keen on theological and historical christian subjects let alone i dont think they woukd choose such a small movement of people from history to represent all christianity in 40k , i could be wrong tho
It's not necessarily that Oll was allowed to retire because of exceptional conduct (although obviously he was a pretty capable soldier, since he'd been that so many times before) or that he had the Emperor's favour. In Know No Fear, it pretty much states that you could sign up with the Army for a 20-odd year tour. And for that he got service shares. And he chose to spend them on getting land on Calth, because if you went for one of the 'new' worlds in Ultramar they paid your passage. All very ordinary, just as he wanted.
Sounds similar to our own old millitaries. In ancient Rome after you finished your millitary contract you'd recieve a large monetary boon or a piece of newly conquered land for farming
I preferred when the last guardsmen wasn’t a perpetual with lore. Just a man with balls of Ceramite reinforced Plasteel that wanted to save his Emperor
PVT Bart Johnson, from Correander 6, likes corpse starch and homemade toilet wine. Literally ran through the Saturnine gates. Somehow ended up in the teleporter room on a fluke. Lands on Vengeful Spirit wonders around lost in Warp fuckery then boom, "Is that the fucking emperor, IS THAT FUCKING HUROS?"
He technically is still a guardsman with balls. Half of the legend is about a guardsman who stared down daemon Prince Angron and stood his ground while shooting him and giving a war cry.
Unfortunately it wouldn't make any sense to bring a normal human on the Vengeful Spirit at that time due to it being basically hell. If Oll was a regular joe he would die instantly
@Ozzy08018 Doesn't give the same punch compared to a single guardsman staring down Horus himself. Basically living proof to the Emperor that what he fights for isn't for nothing. That if a single human can stare down all four Chaos Gods and not even flinch gives hope to even the Master of Mankind and all the guardsman that come after
RIP to the last Catholic. Sacrificing himself to make up for the sins of those he loved, and inspiring them from going down into the darkness and instead choose the light. Very Christ-like indeed.
I hope Horus stays dead and never returns. It looked like GW opened a path for Horus return. I loved old lore that said Emperor destroyed Horus's soul completely from warp. If they bring Horus back, the perpetuals must return too.
Yeah horus should stay dead. And konrad too. Thier stories have perfectly met it's end. But it would be nice to get more horus books on his feats during the great crusade.
I like to think that the Big E understood that he needed people like Ollanius around him to keep him grounded. It's hard, when you're one of the most powerful beings in the galaxy, to keep yourself in check and avoid letting all that infinite power going to your head. I thought that was a really nice touch to the story of the Emperor fighting Horus, reminding us that the God Emperor really was just an extremely powerful human man, with flaws and weaknesses. The emperor gets shit on a lot as this big blundering moron who's arrogance fucks the galaxy, but I think people miss how painfully aware the Emperor was of his flaws and weaknesses. All the people he respected, relied on and loved, abandoned him, aside from Malcador, and as a result he was kind of forced to rely on the leftovers, making due with people he knew couldn't keep up with him or even begin to understand his ideas or strategies. With this in mind, it kind of makes sense why he failed with his Primarchs. He kept them at arms length because he knew he couldn't truly rely on them yet, and that they wouldn't be able to protect the Emperor from himself. On the contrary, the Primarchs might very well have made him more vulnerable. This explains why it made him so angry and why he was so opposed to the people of the Imperium worshipping him as their god, despite the fact that he was, for all intents and purposes, the God of humanity. He knew it might go to his head and he knew what the potential consequences were. The Primarchs generally worshipped him anyways, each in their own way, whether as a father or a master or a God. At least this is what I got out of reading into Ollanius and his relationship with the big man.
It reminds a little of Amanda waller, in her original incarnation of the character. She was a complete bitch, but knew she had flaws and surrounded herself with people that could and had the power to tell her no. She goes unhinged when she doesn't have that person saying no. 😊
Ollanus and Malcador were the the true hands of the Emperor. Both his friends, both were there when the Big E needed them the most. Ollanus being stubborn, but for a reason and Malcador being shady, but also for a reason IS exactly what was needed. Now its the Emperor's turn not to make their sacrifices in vein.
Real reason why the Perpetuals left the Man-Emperor of Mankind and oppose Him: *they get sick of His constant pop culture references and memes and they can't take it anymore.*
What if the Emperor wasn’t able to reach Nuceria in time to prevent Angron dying from the High Riders? How would having one less available Primarch affect the heresy with more lopsided sides? What would happen to the War Hounds? What would happen to Nuceria? Who do you think would go to Khorne?
Why would anyone even go to khorne. Remember, Angron wasn't Khorns first choice. That was Sanguinus and the 'Angels. And he's still after them. With no Angron, the Warhounds would have remained a loyalist legion most likely. Or those 2... might have become those 3 and the legion absorbed into others.
Here's a what if: What if Ollanius Pius stayed with the Emperor or regularly visited him after the Babel tower to call him out each time he thinks Big E is doing something stupid?
@@lucerojunior6644 That's because it's implied that some REALLY hardcore LARPers had Fenris engineered to be that way. Some of the native wildlife has human DNA ..
@@lucerojunior6644 No i believe in my head canon (as a way of coping) that before Ollanius died he spread the word of Christianity to the citizens of ultramar and then some believed it and then it continued to spread even more and then it became a minor religion Edit: also i believe the denominations of Christianity still exists like orthodox or Baptism
I really enjoy the lore of Ollanius Pios/Persson, and I personally choose to believe him remaining a Christian could suggest a few things. He predated and survived the Catholic Church by thousands of years, lived to settle on distant worlds, fought gods and creatures that defied all logic and reason, witnessed countless trillions of human souls die in his millennium of service, literally time travelled just to get to the Emperor - and died with the Cross still around his neck. This unbreakable, disciple-level faith in the face of so many unexplainable horrors would suggest that he saw something to justify it. His piety would suggest that beyond the Immaterium, beyond Chaos, beyond the Aeldari, beyond the War in "Heaven", there exists only one true Creator who sent down His own son to die for the sins of Humanity, an ultimate authority who is beyond the knowledge, comprehension, or influence of any being, and whose known existence died with Ollanius in a Christ-like act of selflessness. Just imagine the fucking *_terror_* every single god and entity in WH40k would experience if they discovered the existence of a Creator who not only witnessed every single depraved action they had done and judged them for it, but could erase them from existence with zero effort. Imagine, similar to how the false Gods of ancient Earth were cast down, He sent St. Michael the Archangel to enact His divine justice, and how every single god would react as their powers, influence, and corruption are rendered completely useless as he effortlessly smites them and their legions, all in the name of the one true God.
In one of the End and the Death volumes, it is STRONGLY hinted that Oll was also Theseus - Oll keeps referencing a labyrinth and uses that memory to use the red string to track his way through the Imperial Palace like he did way back when.
I honestly like the old version where it was just a regular guardsman that stood against horus. I don't like how in 40K seemingly every important character is this super special person and regular people's only role in the plot is to be the weapon of the super special people.
I agree. He was supposed to be the ultimate saint for guardsman. The legend they tell shows that even a normal human can stare down and defy all the evil that this galaxy can produce. Not a super human, not an immortal, and some reincarnation of some hubiwhatsit. He is just a normal man with a normal gun and the biggest balls that humanity alone can produce.
Shame that in The End and The Death he is not Catholic it said the the Cross belongs to his wife who is Catholic he does not believe in God but finds comfort in the rites, the teachings and values particularly Kindness something reviled in 40K and even in 30K Imperium. Its his last memory of her and that it reminds him that he was born on an epoch that believes in the divine something that's hardwired into him and ironically saw that the Emperor is slowly being seen as a God by the common populace. Still it would have been nice that he was religious since he is sort of the direct opposite of the Emperor. Makes me think that instead of being this Golden Superhuman the Emperor should have opted a more regular human look and in regular human-sized power armour gold and all if wants but still the regular size of a human not this Shining Golden Giant.
Shoutout to the homie servitor Graft for beating Erebus with a null box. Ol: Graft, what are you doing? Graft: I am performing good works trooper Person!
Note : there was no good guy, bad guy in the battles of Austerlitz and Verdun, it was just warring countries being at war. Very rare are the wars like the second world war, based on ideology
If you want a perfect demonstration of the Emperor's hubris, he was abandoned by his wise best friend, who was older than him, and by other perpetuals. And instead of self reflecting and wondering if these people had a point, he manufactured new friends.
Idea for another video. If the Emperor had succeeded in building The Webway, would Humanity have actually done away with its more barbaric practices (ex. Turning people into servitors)?
I liked it better when he was a simple mortal Guardsman. It gave more gravitas to the sacrifice and made the Emperor's anger more justified. This simple man stood up to Horus himself to save the Emperor. It's such a noble sacrifice and embodies the best of humanity.
@@snowblind9551 The emperor didn't get mad at a guardsmen death. The emperor realized that his son was dead, as he laughed at the self-sacrifice of Ollanius. "Giving your life for your own kind is the greatest honor, man can give." Yet Horus laughed at that act. That's the key point of that story, the emperor didn't see his son anymore, just another chaos being, and didn't hold back with his next strike. That story is much more meaningful imo.
@@Zouna92 But that's absurd. Think of the literal billions of innocent civilians Horus killed during the Heresy. I mean, Horus literally just killed Sanguinius, the Emperor's favorite son. The Emperor thought he was still redeemable after all that, but killing one Guardsman was the final straw? That's silly.
@snowblind9551 I mean, families of serial killers often don't believe their child could do something like that until the evidence is right in their face. The denial is a strong drug.
The emperor can read any book he wants so can the grey knights custodes and blanks right those are the one actually immune too chaos well unless they infront of 1 of the 4 gods they get corrupted but anything below that they are fine so yeah they should try too gain the knowledge
its so cool that hes a saint of all guardsmen now. idk why i love that but there’s definitely some potential warp spaghetti there. i dont think he should ever fully come back though
@@danielwells1734probably because for some reason TH-camrs/influencers as they get bigger decide "I should talk to minors inappropriately" Its kinda weird
Here are some for possible consideration: What if every Astartes Legion staged a coup on the Emperor and took over the Imperium? How would they rule it and how successful would it be, compared to the canon Imperium? (this is all legions on the same side with minimal Chaos influence on events) What if 2 Primarchs held the Warmaster position cooperatively, under the assumption that those who would take issue at one Warmaster would respect the other one more and they could thus overall be more productive? Which nonhuman species would be the best fit for Chaos to take over and attain galactic dominance? If any one Loyalist and Traitor Primarch switched sides for the Horus Heresy, who would you choose for the best outcome for either the Loyalists, or the Traitors? What if the Silent King never got rid of his Command Protocols and took (almost) all the Necrons with him out of the galaxy to perhaps find a new and better one and come across the Tyranids? What if the Great Crusade had all the Primarchs and none turned Traitor, but there were no Astartes? What if the Beast Orks succeeded in defeating the Imperium? What if the Raptor Project succeeded/was never sabotaged? How would each Heresy/Crusade-era Primarch and Legion fare against the modern Tau Empire? What if one of the Primarchs landed on a xenos world and was raised by them? What if the Eldar managed to kill Angron before he was enslaved? What if another power rose to power during M31 instead of the Imperium, such as the Ullanor Orks, the Rangdan, or the Necrons via the Silent King returning early? What if the Beast Orks grew to threaten the Imperium before the Heresy could happen? What if the Tyranids arrived in M31, before the Heresy could happen?
the savior of mankind in that ship was no super human, no genetic freak like a custodes or a astartes.. but a regular human.. and i fucking love that shit.
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This is more amazing since I've heard about the random guardsmen that shielded the emperor during the duel but I never imagined it was the last catholic
Perpetuals is such a lazy concept, and it replaces older lore like the shamans, the Sensei, and that the Emperor is "The New Man" instead of just a super-juiced perpetual. Ollanius Pius was, and always will be, just one normal man that looked the devil in the eye and did not blink, and this is what made the Emperor realize Horus was beyond redemption when he casually swept this man aside. The Horus Heresy novels were never meant to be taken as canon, but here we are.
@@ginothecrusader9301 That's what I believe. The Old Ones being created by God to help Him create the universe and such. Not so much that God can't do it Himself, but to see how and what the Old Ones would do for Him.
Just cause he's old, doesn't know Ol don't know how to make it work
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damned mind reader i opened a tab on this dude yesterday cuz someone in thors stream said ollanius is a perpetual
I died laughing about the tower being chaos worshipers using anouncia cause YA of course lol which book is that from I wanna check it out.
I ordered two t-shirts and the know no fear shirt.
Big E: "Really, a farmer? For a long-lived Perpetual and a man of many talents?"
Ollannius Pius: "It ain't much but it's honest work."
And he was a great man. The emperor, not so much.
Cincinnatus style.
@@princeofpokemon2934 You DARE insult the Emperor’s morality?! Heresy! HERESY!!!
*fires several bolter shots, misses every one, and hits a couple guardsmen instead*
… they were probably heretics, too!
should have told him to stand out of the sunlight like big E was told a long time ago by diogenes when wearing the alexander skinsuit
@@steveishere8808 missed me!
Emperor: I hate religion!
Ollanius: I’m a devout Catholic.
Emperor: We’re best buds!
The thing is: he wasnt! his long dead wife was.
As a practicing Catholic with atheist friends, you might be surprised how often this happens
@@aaronc1942 agreed
@@aaronc1942 how can you call them friends if you're willing to let them go to Hell?
@@TannuWannu they have to make the choice to change. You cannot forcibly convert a heart.
Ollianus in 2024, after finding this video about him.
"What the fuck?"
LOL
That is amazing.
"It would be neet if Cavil were me"
Big E: "no more religion..except Pius, youre so cool!"
>Ignoring Emperor allowing Cult of Mechanicum to grow as he uses their techs to conquer more planets and star systems
>Ignoring Emperor tolerating the Runepriests of Fenris that pretty much became a sect of later Imperial Cult (and making Space Wolves so formidable that they gave Inquisition so many regrets during "Month of Shame")
>Ignoring Emperor tolerating the denizens of Ba'al to venerate Sanguinius (though only to limited degree)
It's already clear that Emperor's last surviving contingency plan is to frame future growing Imperial Cult within Imperium to specific sects and cults from the carcass of secularistic imperial truth doctrines, also Games Workshop's Black Library authors still haven't explained how Power of Faith are different from any Warpcraft (Chaos or non-Chaos based) that even both Necron Pylons and Great Rift opened by Chaos factions doesn't affected it's psychic prowess
Big E in a Mr. Krabs voice: “Everybody out! Except you, you can stay.”
Ollanius Pius: *happy clown noises
@@jkee9760 I wonder how things would be if the emperor was a bit more lenient and a lot more benevolent
@@princeofpokemon2934 In the original canon he was, and it led to him being completely oblivious to the fact that his sons would betray him. They ruined the Emperor by making him arrogant, foolhardy and self-important, when the original lore was that he loved humanity to a fault, got obliterated by those he cared for most and was forced to slay his chosen son. GW is on a kick of god awful writing and retcons though, so maybe it's temporary.
Big E sounds like Homelander to Black Noir huh? 😂
Imagine this:
Ollanius Persson was just chilling in his home, setting up a farm during his stay on Calth. One day, while wandering a city to pass the time, he comes across a healthy-looking young boy with dark brown skin, who seems to have lost his parents somewhere in the metropolis. Ollanius, out of pity, decides to help the boy, who seems quite infatuated with the Ultramarines stationed there (the boy is probably distracted by how cool the Ultrasmurfs were that he lost track of this parents)
After hours of exploring, the boy's parents were found, and the family was reunited. Before leaving, however, Ollanius gave the dark-skinned boy a piece of bread to eat, and then, left without a word.
That boy is Chairon.
Nice one
Bruh...that would explained his hatred to traitors.
Even it makes no sense for a black man to live in Space Romans world.
@muhammadahmad1851 according to history there was actually black people in the roman empire. And also if we consider that ultramar is a whole sector comprising multiple colonized systems, statisticaly and logically there will be people of color in there somewhere so having a black ultramarine should not be a surprise ;)
@@ciseauàbois I'm talking about Roman's Roman, like original Italians. If these woke bullshit really needed to shove it down our throat, why they didn't make Black White Scars too? Cause I bet the black people already reach Mongol in the past.
Need a black Marines? The Salamander would be enough, I'm Asian and I'm happy enough to see White Scar. Never thought every legion needed to have Asians in them lol
@@ciseauàbois For the record, that doesn't mean there was any substantial population of sub-saharan africans within, say Italy or Greece. They would primarily be within Egypt, particularly the Southern half which was known for having a higher Nubian population since Egypt's height.
Otherwise yeah, Ultramar is a state of at least *five hundred planets*
Considering our ONE planet has produced dozens of different phenotypes of Humans, it makes sense that there'd be at least one planet that has at least SOME brown people.
“Where I fall, ten more shall take my place! And one hundred each of them! So strike me down! I am the Harbinger!”
-Ollanius’ last words to Horus
One of my favourite bits from TEatD Vol III was Ollanius trying to talk sense into the Emperor about the whole DK thing and has to talk through the smoldering Custodes, it took a buddy from 40,000 years ago to crack it into his skull that melting his banana boys whilst gathering as much Warp energy as possible wasn't one of the E's great ideas lol
It's funny that banana boys/Custodes being completely revisioned into "gender-inclusive" (except no Brother/Meister of Silence ofc, because lying about "equality" is great) happens by several months after Warhammer Horus Heresy/30K novel series ended (and all of the novels considered Custodes to be all-boys)
Wat @@ohamatchhams
@@ohamatchhamsShut up, that has nothing to do with the original comment.
😂yeah, you're right. But atleast it made you(sissy boy) Rage comment....lol. @mrsmint43
the real god emperor was the friends he made along the way
"Was he a good person?" You could say he was pius
PIOUS!!!
😂
I'm ashamed at how hard this made me laugh 😂 I e had a long fucking day
You could say that Oll Persson was an Old Person.
These old GW names are very on the nose.
This means that Oll has thousands of years worth of combat experience under his belt. If I remember correctly, he even used a trick he learned during WW1 in "Know No Fear".
I mean its easy for him to know no fear as if he was shot with artillery round on top of his head he would still get up. He would have probably been way more impressed by all the ordinary people around him doing the same as him without extra lives.
@@Jebu911Know no fear being a common Astartes saying and the name of a book
@@FRAAANKYSUUUPER i do know thats the saying but its impressive to think of the people that didnt live forever and still didnt fear shit.
Imagine if Ollanius and the Emperor stayed in touch and he had occasionally visited his humble farmer friend to stay grounded. Primarch would have gotten Uncle Olly and would have gotten drop on his farm to experience human life for a decade or two
And that would have been better how? It would do the opposite of grounding the emperor. It would further reinforce the idea that mankind should not be trusted with its own fate. Olly was the perfect example of giving up. Nothing else.
He was pathetic. As the emperor told him, he had lived of countless millennia and he had nothing to show for it.
It would disgust the primearchs. Even the nicer ones, knowing how old olly was and how little he had to show for it.
@62sy and this is exactly why tge imperium is messed up
@@62sy And what Emperor achieved with his myriads of years of scheming and god like power? Nothing that he wanted, humanity barely survives. Ollanius achieved all he set out to achieve and the fact he kept fighting tells you he never gave up, just worked on smaller scale. (To be fair he was an example of how doing the opposite the Emperor did, small scale stuff, isn’t enough.) For primarchs to have both opinions visible through out the crusade would have been beneficial, as those that had a human perceptive arguable turned out the best. (Corvus, Dorn, Guilliman, Jaghatai and Vulcan.)
@@62syOl lived a short life on Calth of what they were fighting for in the first place. Peace.
@@scientistsupreme5211 it’s messed up because there’s a malevolent force trying to enslave it. Not because of the emperor.
Human perspective? What a joke. No primearch went “I’ll sit this one out”. They fought because they believed in the emperor’s dream. They would have been disgusted by the likes of Olly… who GAVE UP.
Who chose to do nothing when he had the chance to do something. That’s why Gulluiman, Corax and Vulkan were willing to commit genocide numerous times and go against their beliefs. Because they would rather do something then let mankind burn itself out.
No primearch would even hear him out… and most would kill him on the spot.
Just for context: Pius lived for thousands of years before Jesus was born, and survived for 30 thousand years after Jesus' death.
Yet this dude, who himself was essentially a demigod, truly believed that Jesus, a guy that lived for less than half a century, was the messiah and the son of the one true god. Weirder still, Ollanus specifically believed in the righteousness of the Catholic church, an institution he both predated and survived. To have such faith to hold on to your exact beliefs, unchanged, for literal MILLENIA, is honestly super impressive.
wasn't his wife catholic and not him? iirc he only wears the cross because it's his wife's
@@TriangulumGalaxy_1 I believe Pius wasn't didn't personally practice. But kept practicing the faith to keep the memory of his wife alive during his many thousands of years alone without her, waiting for day they may reunite.
Just sounds like an immortal dumbass imo
Honestly in 40k that would put some weight behind Catholicism, like the guy born before Jesus decided that that specific sect was the right one? that says something.
I wonder if he ever met jesus though.
praise god
So an apocalyptic trio of a shirtless, headband wearing emperor, explosives expert Malcador, and a camouflaged knife-weilding Ollanius fighting the Men of Iron as John Connors most trusted loose canons is officially canon.
this needs to be a movie
Yes, but the emperor WAS John Connor
@@xulianpintos982 No, but Ollanius probably went under the alias of Kyle Reese.
Dan Abnett: The guy who saved the Emperor? He was actually an even older guy who fought Babylon, Napoleon and Saddam Hussein.
Psychiatrist: I think he needs an extra jolt.
Was Saddam a bad guy tho
(or Napoleon, for that matter)
@@unknowncommenter6698Saddam Hussein was absolutely evil. Genocide is wrong
@@unknowncommenter6698 You could argue both of them were bad guys despite how beloved Napoleon is by a lot of people he was at his core a warmonger. It would be a lie to say it's not what he lived for. Hussein was also a bad man who wanted greatness for his country like Napoleon. I think it's important to highlight they were bad not evil like Hitler and Stalin.
@@unknowncommenter6698 waging wars of conquest and\or waging war for the spreading of ideology is inherently evil as you need to stomp on innocents to do so. There is no way to commit small amounts of evil for the greater good, evil is evil no matter the justification
@@unknowncommenter6698 Napoleon turned more into a ruthless dictator towards the end, While Saddam is bad gassing Iranian targets during the Iran-Iraq war, because of some oil fields
RIP Last Catholic, made us all proud +30,000 in the past.
He is not the last. I Read somewhere of a leutenant introducing himself as a "catheric by faith" to two space marines.
No love for Orthodoxy in media smh
Or Gnostic Christian since it’s stated as “Cathar” (a French Christian group in medieval who had gnostic teachings and persecuted by it).
That or linguistic drift jumbling Catholic with Catheric.
@@powerist209 imma go with the ladder on that one i dont think the writers are really keen on theological and historical christian subjects let alone i dont think they woukd choose such a small movement of people from history to represent all christianity in 40k , i could be wrong tho
@@tuff9486 Sh, the Imperial Inquisition doesn’t need to know this.
It's not necessarily that Oll was allowed to retire because of exceptional conduct (although obviously he was a pretty capable soldier, since he'd been that so many times before) or that he had the Emperor's favour. In Know No Fear, it pretty much states that you could sign up with the Army for a 20-odd year tour. And for that he got service shares. And he chose to spend them on getting land on Calth, because if you went for one of the 'new' worlds in Ultramar they paid your passage. All very ordinary, just as he wanted.
Sounds similar to our own old millitaries. In ancient Rome after you finished your millitary contract you'd recieve a large monetary boon or a piece of newly conquered land for farming
a humble soldier. a guardian. a friend. to the very end. not that mighty, but honest.
I preferred when the last guardsmen wasn’t a perpetual with lore. Just a man with balls of Ceramite reinforced Plasteel that wanted to save his Emperor
PVT Bart Johnson, from Correander 6, likes corpse starch and homemade toilet wine. Literally ran through the Saturnine gates. Somehow ended up in the teleporter room on a fluke. Lands on Vengeful Spirit wonders around lost in Warp fuckery then boom, "Is that the fucking emperor, IS THAT FUCKING HUROS?"
He's a fat guy so his nickname is "Big"
He technically is still a guardsman with balls. Half of the legend is about a guardsman who stared down daemon Prince Angron and stood his ground while shooting him and giving a war cry.
Unfortunately it wouldn't make any sense to bring a normal human on the Vengeful Spirit at that time due to it being basically hell. If Oll was a regular joe he would die instantly
@Ozzy08018 Doesn't give the same punch compared to a single guardsman staring down Horus himself. Basically living proof to the Emperor that what he fights for isn't for nothing. That if a single human can stare down all four Chaos Gods and not even flinch gives hope to even the Master of Mankind and all the guardsman that come after
Just when i thought warhammer lore couldn't get more crazier and batshit insane i get stuff like this
RIP to the last Catholic. Sacrificing himself to make up for the sins of those he loved, and inspiring them from going down into the darkness and instead choose the light. Very Christ-like indeed.
there is no greater love than this, that a man shall die for his friends
@@elytraman1809 Amen.
What if Ollaniua got reincarnated into Sly Marbo with massive inherited trauma?
Ollanius II: BACK WITH A VENGEANCE
"All knowledge to have use. And that he would be immune to it's effects". So that's where Magnus got that from.
Exactly
"In the name of the father the son and the holy FUS RO DAH -Ollanius at the Tower of babble and against Horus...probably...
I hope Horus stays dead and never returns. It looked like GW opened a path for Horus return. I loved old lore that said Emperor destroyed Horus's soul completely from warp. If they bring Horus back, the perpetuals must return too.
Yeah horus should stay dead. And konrad too. Thier stories have perfectly met it's end. But it would be nice to get more horus books on his feats during the great crusade.
Finally glad to see Ollanius get the love he deserves
My head canon will always be that he’s out there somewhere, maybe raising a family
40k Humor, to name the oldest person in the setting OL. Person.
Bro had balls massive enough to make even the emperor say 'oh my god"
I like to think that the Big E understood that he needed people like Ollanius around him to keep him grounded. It's hard, when you're one of the most powerful beings in the galaxy, to keep yourself in check and avoid letting all that infinite power going to your head.
I thought that was a really nice touch to the story of the Emperor fighting Horus, reminding us that the God Emperor really was just an extremely powerful human man, with flaws and weaknesses. The emperor gets shit on a lot as this big blundering moron who's arrogance fucks the galaxy, but I think people miss how painfully aware the Emperor was of his flaws and weaknesses.
All the people he respected, relied on and loved, abandoned him, aside from Malcador, and as a result he was kind of forced to rely on the leftovers, making due with people he knew couldn't keep up with him or even begin to understand his ideas or strategies. With this in mind, it kind of makes sense why he failed with his Primarchs. He kept them at arms length because he knew he couldn't truly rely on them yet, and that they wouldn't be able to protect the Emperor from himself. On the contrary, the Primarchs might very well have made him more vulnerable.
This explains why it made him so angry and why he was so opposed to the people of the Imperium worshipping him as their god, despite the fact that he was, for all intents and purposes, the God of humanity. He knew it might go to his head and he knew what the potential consequences were. The Primarchs generally worshipped him anyways, each in their own way, whether as a father or a master or a God. At least this is what I got out of reading into Ollanius and his relationship with the big man.
It reminds a little of Amanda waller, in her original incarnation of the character. She was a complete bitch, but knew she had flaws and surrounded herself with people that could and had the power to tell her no. She goes unhinged when she doesn't have that person saying no. 😊
Ollanus and Malcador were the the true hands of the Emperor. Both his friends, both were there when the Big E needed them the most. Ollanus being stubborn, but for a reason and Malcador being shady, but also for a reason IS exactly what was needed. Now its the Emperor's turn not to make their sacrifices in vein.
I love Ollanius and Malcador so much. Friends the Emperor doesn't deserve but has them anyway.
Real reason why the Perpetuals left the Man-Emperor of Mankind and oppose Him: *they get sick of His constant pop culture references and memes and they can't take it anymore.*
6:50 This picture right here. Ultramarines actually looking like Romans. I want an updated Primaris version of this aesthetic for Ultramarines.
the video starts at 2:28
You're doing the emperors work
What if the Emperor wasn’t able to reach Nuceria in time to prevent Angron dying from the High Riders? How would having one less available Primarch affect the heresy with more lopsided sides? What would happen to the War Hounds? What would happen to Nuceria? Who do you think would go to Khorne?
Why would anyone even go to khorne. Remember, Angron wasn't Khorns first choice. That was Sanguinus and the 'Angels. And he's still after them. With no Angron, the Warhounds would have remained a loyalist legion most likely. Or those 2... might have become those 3 and the legion absorbed into others.
Here's a what if: What if Ollanius Pius stayed with the Emperor or regularly visited him after the Babel tower to call him out each time he thinks Big E is doing something stupid?
I always figured they ran into each a few other times after that.
Best Lore video I have seen in awhile. Thank you MajorKill.
This means Christianity is canon. Nice 👍
Yeah man wh40k takes place in our timeline
And died forever in M31. The last catholic died in Horus ship so, a thing from the past. Bizarre is, Nordic Mythology still strong on Fenris.
@@lucerojunior6644 That's because it's implied that some REALLY hardcore LARPers had Fenris engineered to be that way. Some of the native wildlife has human DNA ..
@@lucerojunior6644 No i believe in my head canon (as a way of coping) that before Ollanius died he spread the word of Christianity to the citizens of ultramar and then some believed it and then it continued to spread even more and then it became a minor religion
Edit: also i believe the denominations of Christianity still exists like orthodox or Baptism
@@VUVUZELA521the inquisition wants to know your location
I really enjoy the lore of Ollanius Pios/Persson, and I personally choose to believe him remaining a Christian could suggest a few things. He predated and survived the Catholic Church by thousands of years, lived to settle on distant worlds, fought gods and creatures that defied all logic and reason, witnessed countless trillions of human souls die in his millennium of service, literally time travelled just to get to the Emperor - and died with the Cross still around his neck. This unbreakable, disciple-level faith in the face of so many unexplainable horrors would suggest that he saw something to justify it. His piety would suggest that beyond the Immaterium, beyond Chaos, beyond the Aeldari, beyond the War in "Heaven", there exists only one true Creator who sent down His own son to die for the sins of Humanity, an ultimate authority who is beyond the knowledge, comprehension, or influence of any being, and whose known existence died with Ollanius in a Christ-like act of selflessness. Just imagine the fucking *_terror_* every single god and entity in WH40k would experience if they discovered the existence of a Creator who not only witnessed every single depraved action they had done and judged them for it, but could erase them from existence with zero effort. Imagine, similar to how the false Gods of ancient Earth were cast down, He sent St. Michael the Archangel to enact His divine justice, and how every single god would react as their powers, influence, and corruption are rendered completely useless as he effortlessly smites them and their legions, all in the name of the one true God.
Now we need a major mini of Ollanus Pius!!!
I remember following you on my original TH-cam channel when you were at 40k. Crazy to find your page again and you’re at 600k
Keep up the good work geeza it was ur vids that got me into warhammer 40k best vid i randomly came across all that time ago
In one of the End and the Death volumes, it is STRONGLY hinted that Oll was also Theseus - Oll keeps referencing a labyrinth and uses that memory to use the red string to track his way through the Imperial Palace like he did way back when.
I honestly like the old version where it was just a regular guardsman that stood against horus. I don't like how in 40K seemingly every important character is this super special person and regular people's only role in the plot is to be the weapon of the super special people.
I agree. He was supposed to be the ultimate saint for guardsman. The legend they tell shows that even a normal human can stare down and defy all the evil that this galaxy can produce. Not a super human, not an immortal, and some reincarnation of some hubiwhatsit. He is just a normal man with a normal gun and the biggest balls that humanity alone can produce.
12:27 this image goes insanely hard
Gotta say one of the best works you have made major
Shame that in The End and The Death he is not Catholic it said the the Cross belongs to his wife who is Catholic he does not believe in God but finds comfort in the rites, the teachings and values particularly Kindness something reviled in 40K and even in 30K Imperium. Its his last memory of her and that it reminds him that he was born on an epoch that believes in the divine something that's hardwired into him and ironically saw that the Emperor is slowly being seen as a God by the common populace.
Still it would have been nice that he was religious since he is sort of the direct opposite of the Emperor. Makes me think that instead of being this Golden Superhuman the Emperor should have opted a more regular human look and in regular human-sized power armour gold and all if wants but still the regular size of a human not this Shining Golden Giant.
Got a little choked up by the end of today video. Really good retelling.
Finally ol'p episode, ive been asking for it for a while
I absolutely love this guy. He's absolutely amazing.
I don't know about you, but I've got a goosebumps from the last tree minutes of video! So epic!
this is the earliest I've ever been. love the show, Major keep it up
Been looking forward to this one. Cheers mate.
Shoutout to the homie servitor Graft for beating Erebus with a null box.
Ol: Graft, what are you doing?
Graft: I am performing good works trooper Person!
Note : there was no good guy, bad guy in the battles of Austerlitz and Verdun, it was just warring countries being at war. Very rare are the wars like the second world war, based on ideology
Rip to the last Catholic. Keeping the religion alive until the end.
Gross 🤮
@@danielwells1734 WTF
3:20 vulkan lives
*STOMP STOMP*
wow. Pious is officially in my top 3 favorite characters now
Immediately got the LED sign that’s actually amazing.
Can you even imagine someone who can talk down Big E from ascending to Godhood?
Possibly the best piece of lore in the entire setting
If you want a perfect demonstration of the Emperor's hubris, he was abandoned by his wise best friend, who was older than him, and by other perpetuals.
And instead of self reflecting and wondering if these people had a point, he manufactured new friends.
Idea for another video. If the Emperor had succeeded in building The Webway, would Humanity have actually done away with its more barbaric practices (ex. Turning people into servitors)?
Please make a video about Tau Navy and their battle, @MajorKill. The Exodite mini show got me interested in that topic.
“I am performing good works trooper Persson, run clear”. Rip the goat 🫡
Hey, Majorkill. This was a good video.
I liked it better when he was a simple mortal Guardsman.
It gave more gravitas to the sacrifice and made the Emperor's anger more justified.
This simple man stood up to Horus himself to save the Emperor. It's such a noble sacrifice and embodies the best of humanity.
Nah, it was extremely silly for the Emperor to get so mad over a random guy he didn't know getting killed. Even TTS made fun of its absurdity.
@@snowblind9551 The emperor didn't get mad at a guardsmen death. The emperor realized that his son was dead, as he laughed at the self-sacrifice of Ollanius.
"Giving your life for your own kind is the greatest honor, man can give." Yet Horus laughed at that act. That's the key point of that story, the emperor didn't see his son anymore, just another chaos being, and didn't hold back with his next strike.
That story is much more meaningful imo.
@@Zouna92 But that's absurd. Think of the literal billions of innocent civilians Horus killed during the Heresy. I mean, Horus literally just killed Sanguinius, the Emperor's favorite son. The Emperor thought he was still redeemable after all that, but killing one Guardsman was the final straw? That's silly.
@snowblind9551 I mean, families of serial killers often don't believe their child could do something like that until the evidence is right in their face. The denial is a strong drug.
With Oll being at 73 Easting, there's a good chance I've met him.
The emperor can read any book he wants so can the grey knights custodes and blanks right those are the one actually immune too chaos well unless they infront of 1 of the 4 gods they get corrupted but anything below that they are fine so yeah they should try too gain the knowledge
Let's GOOOOOO! OL-P Video!!!!
its so cool that hes a saint of all guardsmen now. idk why i love that but there’s definitely some potential warp spaghetti there. i dont think he should ever fully come back though
Reading his saga through the horus heresy was one of my favorite things
I am glad to say I am never disappointed when it comes to warhammer.
Thanks for talking about me 😊
Misnaming Oll as John was a hell of a throwback to the retired John Wick comment
Thanks mate. Been waiting for this video since the channel started
He finally got a video! Lets gooooooooo!
Majorkill you are my favorite TH-camr pls dont talk to any minors
I would happily fund a patreon specifically for Majorkill to bone pro escorts just to ensure he never has to be "confused" about anyones age!!!!
WTF??
@@danielwells1734probably because for some reason TH-camrs/influencers as they get bigger decide
"I should talk to minors inappropriately"
Its kinda weird
Good thing he's majorkill, not minorgroom
Here are some for possible consideration:
What if every Astartes Legion staged a coup on the Emperor and took over the Imperium? How would they rule it and how successful would it be, compared to the canon Imperium? (this is all legions on the same side with minimal Chaos influence on events)
What if 2 Primarchs held the Warmaster position cooperatively, under the assumption that those who would take issue at one Warmaster would respect the other one more and they could thus overall be more productive?
Which nonhuman species would be the best fit for Chaos to take over and attain galactic dominance?
If any one Loyalist and Traitor Primarch switched sides for the Horus Heresy, who would you choose for the best outcome for either the Loyalists, or the Traitors?
What if the Silent King never got rid of his Command Protocols and took (almost) all the Necrons with him out of the galaxy to perhaps find a new and better one and come across the Tyranids?
What if the Great Crusade had all the Primarchs and none turned Traitor, but there were no Astartes?
What if the Beast Orks succeeded in defeating the Imperium?
What if the Raptor Project succeeded/was never sabotaged?
How would each Heresy/Crusade-era Primarch and Legion fare against the modern Tau Empire?
What if one of the Primarchs landed on a xenos world and was raised by them?
What if the Eldar managed to kill Angron before he was enslaved?
What if another power rose to power during M31 instead of the Imperium, such as the Ullanor Orks, the Rangdan, or the Necrons via the Silent King returning early?
What if the Beast Orks grew to threaten the Imperium before the Heresy could happen?
What if the Tyranids arrived in M31, before the Heresy could happen?
For the chaos question, it would be Orks for Khorne.
the savior of mankind in that ship was no super human, no genetic freak like a custodes or a astartes.. but a regular human.. and i fucking love that shit.
Ollanius when the heresy started : get my holy water we going to kill the devil
Thank youuuuu, just finished the End and the Death books and I wanted more of him.
I totally dig the know no fear and the mechanicus one.
That's bloody amazing!!!
2:23 Let's get into it!
Bring Back Timmy. Video 122!
He's not coming back lol
@@enovos3138 That is my fear!
Could you do a salamanders or white scars shirt majorkill?
Ollie piece is the true hero of the siege hill worth dying on
Bruh I was looking for more info on olly and u dropped a video at the same time
I hope you make it to that Big 1 mil subs majorkill you deserve it bro. My favorite Warhammer content creator . And just a cool dude who loves nerdy shit 💪
THE COUNTDOWN CONTINUES 6 TO G0!!!!
Attempt number 97: what if the Primarchs were found in order of their creation.
Join me my brothers!!!
Within the first hour damn im runnin through these videos
This is more amazing since I've heard about the random guardsmen that shielded the emperor during the duel but I never imagined it was the last catholic
Please make some designs with brother dreadnought "In the name of the Emperor, I cast you down!" 😂
Perpetuals is such a lazy concept, and it replaces older lore like the shamans, the Sensei, and that the Emperor is "The New Man" instead of just a super-juiced perpetual. Ollanius Pius was, and always will be, just one normal man that looked the devil in the eye and did not blink, and this is what made the Emperor realize Horus was beyond redemption when he casually swept this man aside.
The Horus Heresy novels were never meant to be taken as canon, but here we are.
No further!’ he yells. ‘Damn you! I won’t let you touch Him!’ - Ollanius “Ceramite balls” Pius
Chad music.
Was hoping he’d make the list for a video
Dude brings that "get off my lawn" energy to new levels.
Best bit, he was Christian yet also older than Christ
Maybe Gods real in the universe
@@ginothecrusader9301
That's what I believe. The Old Ones being created by God to help Him create the universe and such. Not so much that God can't do it Himself, but to see how and what the Old Ones would do for Him.
Him being there and still believing is great testament
Wait, wasn't Big E implied to be Christ himself?
@@giventoringybanez5799 iirc, he was implied to have been a disciple
I could be wrong tho, I don't know what any source would be for that