Well, I agree with you! We have a couple that appear to be SMS. But, not perfect match on the example. The two that we have have more extreme doubling & exact die markers on both coins. They appear to be quadruple die. Not this example coin you reference. They don't have the normal finish is rough, they do have minor die scraps that are identical If we did not two of them. I would just say it's damage. But, both coins match identical But, they will have to be sent off to verify and I like ANACS. But, I do think there is more of these coins out here than just the 50 sets. I think there are several verity of the coin and that they were having problems getting the die right. Just my personal thought. But, it's sad that people get nasty about it. I really appreciate your videos. Thanks for going over the markers. You can see one of them at nuggetridge.com You decide. We have two. But, one is in Spain & here in us. We will grade together. So, we have to grade both at Same time because they are nearly identical. But, the some of die markers same die as the example you show.
I have a 1964 set that came in the SMS envelope is all I’m saying. Unless the envelope that is like all the other SMS envelopes that I have is a fake along with the coins that came in the envelope.
Thanks for this... The reason so many people get fooled is because other TH-cam bloggers, who are normally pretty good, get people with click-bait. They actually do gin up interest, but do so at an expense to the hobby. I can't tell you how many people on coin forums claim they have a 1964 SMS coin, when the truth is they were all with Eva Adams, then sold off to collectors, who sold to other collectors. So the chances if finding it in change or a Dansco album or coin roll from the bank (as some bloggers claim) at home are close to zero...
I agree, they would be common if all of them found one. And they down right argue and get nasty with you over this coin, I refuse to look or talk about them when someone starts on the 64.
Daniel is always on point. I can only imagine the number of people he has to deal with that are misinformed, and lack the ability to be effective listeners.
Having just recently gone down the Rabbit Hole, I appreciate the detailed point by point information provided re: 64 JFK Half Dollar, and look forward to watching other videos on the channel. Well Done.
I apologize. I am still ecstatic on the bank notes. I know you are talking about my most likely loved KENNEDY coin. However....back to the dollar's. Who has those beauties? Oh...i love military paper money....cause we all THANK THEM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN FOR MAKING AMERICA THE BEST PLACE TO BE......AND GOD BLESS KENNEDY. HE ....BY THE WAY WOULD HAVE BEEN A WONDERFUL PRESIDENT IF GIVEN THE CHANCE.THANK YOU. I LOVE ALL YOUR VIDEOS. I THINK I GOT THIS ONE MR.MALONE. When you have something special like that Kennedy...you keep it. Money is not options sometimes. You are a GREAT TEACHER!
Daniel I know you have the very best intentions, but if they want to argue tell them to move on if they don’t believe you. You give the best information and are very Thorough, there is no reason to argue. Especially when you’re giving your time and knowledge for free
You know how it is. I had two people jump me on FB over their coins. I was not rude and answered as always, then they call on the phone at the shop, and send messages. People are goofy over these SMS halves. but have no idea they are not going to find one.
If people are being rude to you ,it's probably because they don't know anything about coins.I think your program is very informative and I've learned a lot in the short time I've been collecting.Thank you for sharing your info with us and I'm looking forward to your next video.
Thanks a lot for clearing that up daniel. I appreciate it. Sorry people get mad with you. Like your getting anything from telling them it's not the sms
Sorry people are not doing the research first before they try and convince others but keep up with sharing you knowledge I many others do appreciate what you give us thank you hardcore coin collectors hccbrett
I just gotta ask a short question after reading so many redundant comments/questions/thoughts that were posted directly on this informative video. Did anyone even watch it?
@@CoinHELPu I've got a old collection 5000pennys up to 1980s every half dollars from 1948 to 64 Franklin's some uncertalated some Penny's uncertalated 68 s wood like to talk to you about them they are for sell my no is 606 304-3929
@@CoinHELPu Hi Daniel, I can hear the frustration in your voice. Unfortunately, the people watching this video are your followers, who can easily get the differences between the SMS coins and the business strikes. The great unwashed masses out there don't seem to ever get it and will continue to insist they have a great rarity in hand.
Unless you or a family member bought it at a major auction as a 1964 SMS then you don't have one of these. Less than 30 where minted and you can't find these in bank rolls, change, proof sets or mint sets. These are not found that way.
@@SuperPegasus7 1964 isn't old and the 90% silver Kennedy Halves are metal so they look metallic. You're not going to just find one of these, all were found in a deceased mint employee's house. So they were not released into circulation and their existence wasn't even known until they were found there.
Great information and your channel is growing so fast.. keep up the good work I have learned so much from your channel..one question do you do giveaways on your channel
Thank you! I haven't yet. I think about it then my schedule just seems to get in the way. I just passed a year so might try to have one. Again many thanks!
As in any coin key features details are what numismatics is all about anyone that isn't paying attention to key details isn't going to have much success doing this,Thank for this video ur knowledge is 💪and appreciated 🙌👏 I've been matching details but did not go as far as die lines but if all the key details don't match up then it's a different coin from what was thought I'm gonna keep digging but so far details r matching on mine all the info to steer me in The right direction is so helpful 💪
Hey man loved the video gonna be using ur channel some, I happen to have 4 1964s in my possession 2 uncased and 2 in a case. The two in the case do look rather different to the naked eye
I noticed also on the reverse a fat "N" and then skinny second "U" in UNUM. Interesting. Also a way to remember those other marks you mentioned is to say you're "IDing" the 1964 Kennedy: "I" on the front and "D" on the back!!!!
Thank you Daniel for another informative video on these coins. Think i've come to the decision to just send my 64"s out for authentication. Then we'll both know more. Thinking ANACS will be cheaper then NGC. Currently working on finishing submissions to PMG as i know have some Fancy Serial #'s FRN'S worth having graded. Have a fantastic day my friend & God Bless
Great video i will have to keep an eye out for that.. Something i have noticed ur audio is weird like its to high on ur end.. I only say this cause i dont have the same issue on other channels
Hello Danielle, i have a 1977 half a dollar are they worth keeping. Im new and just learning. I would love to go to a class to learn about coin collecting.
I think that I have a while set. Every coin is double die and the half dollar has what looks like the dangling 4. They don't have that shiny proof finish. It looks like a matte finish. I have never seen this holder before either. Very strong details and very sharp edges. Any help would be appreciated.
Im sure this has already been covered ( I only read the comments from recent to several pages down) Im paraphrasing here but according to PCGS the graded coins are photographed prior to being encapsulated to ensure the best image possible. Having said that, it pretty much drives the point that your coin must look as close to exactly as a coin can get ,excluding PMD, without it miraculously becoming the actual coin you are comparing. (this has been known to happen on occasion and is always temporary with the coin in question reverting back to "close but no cigar" or "wtf was I looking at" after ones attention is diverted from coin inspection to back of eyelid inspection for three or more hours.)
I have 2 particular kennedy half dollars and its plainly clear that they both have different finishes. I sent one to pcgs who received it today, dec 3rd 2020. Once that comes back, I'll send in the other. I figure worst case scenario, if they grade a high MS and not a SP, I'll make quite alot more than what I have in them which is they were inherited.
I bought The Presidents collection Americana Series a few weeks ago , It's odd the Nickle is Not a 64 D , The rest are , It was Put together in 1998 by American Historic Society and it checks all the boxes Dan . I am just happy to Own it . I have a few hundred Thousand dollars , so I do not yet need the Money . But I want to send it along to be Graded with some other coins just to be sure :) QC
Hello, I'm pretty sure I have 3 if not 4 1964 sms Kennedy Half Dollar sets. They were gifted to me by my Grandpa. They were in the hard plastic case with the blue plastic identification coin. I need to get them graded. I also have a 90% silver 65 Kennedy uncirculated half dollar. I need to weigh a bunch of my coins. I didn't realize the true value of these coins.
My grandpa gave me a 64 Kennedy set in plastic with a blue base for the set. That was 1972. In '64 we toured the White House on a field trip from Michigan. I was 9. I still have the handout materials. It was still all the Kennedy brochures.
I have one, it took me 25 minutes to watch this video for having to pause and rewind and replay lol but it lined up with everything you mentioned except maybe the one on the "I" but my scope is one of the middle tier ones, it's not as good as I would like it to be or I just don't know how to use it to its maximum potential, but yeah I gots one, the pcgs submitting process is so confusing to me!!! But I want it graded by pcgs and only pcgs, any advice would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely Lost In Space...
My dad bought me and my sister a Kennedy Half Dollar date 1964 at the Worlds Fair in Queens NY and they came in a square container. We still have them. I never see anyone mentioning them. Are they just Philadelphia no mint mark? Thanks.
Great informative video but I think one thing missing from the images shown and your video is also the sides of the coin. What you read about the coins in the beginning of the video talks about very distinct square reeding or something like that and no images were shown about how distinct they are or look. That would also help. I have a dime that from my local coin shop said is that air gets trapped when the coin is struck it almost acts like a bombe and cause damage and sometimes cause the layers of clad coin to separate he showed me exactly where it looked like this happened and learned something new. But also learned something new that same day. That someone who knows more about coins won't believe or try to tell you its nothing. My local coin shop guy I speak of tried pulling my coin apart, I'm glad he didn't break my coin, also he then proceeded to tell me it looked to be tampered with to make it look like an error. Yet you can see the damage from the coin where he told me that acts like a bomb when struck and how it causes such a thing 🤔. So you can see what he talked about what happened and then proceeded to discredit my coin and find. That day I decided I will get it graded and looked at by a grading company and not rely on some who is knowledgeable about coins im not saying he isn't, but to try and pull apart my coin I have and tell me it's nothing I have a problem with. When what he spoke about how something could come about you can clearly see and then proceed to say it has been tampered with have a big problem with. I'm no liar, not trying to cheat or take advantage of something or someone for money yet the implication of tampering doesn't sit well with me when I know exactly how I acquired such a coin by hunting no deception needed. Cause my coin looks so exotic from the side and if put in a holder means you would see it. Maybe along with a slab pcgs should make a print out of all things about the coin and point them out along with grading then when they slad it yoy would know everything wrong or you have with a coin, without having to break it open just to see something. Great video just felt the sides of the coin weren't pictured or left out and would help others when trying to identify such a coin from what you read about the coin. Seemingly seems particular to such a coin is my only thought. Also your videos about misrepresented coin selling online let's me know there still are good people in the world. That 1977 Kennedy half bu roll i bought should have said 1977 cherry picked like craxy mint set roll would have been more appropriate cause they all have mirror finishes but if these things are uncirculated meant he never sold them he kept and did whatever he wanted to with said coins is more appropriately titled lol
DANNY....send the meanies to me. ❤I appreciate that you are helping us ENTHUSIASTS. THANK YOU BOYFRIEND. YOU know I am kind. I may try to help them see through there thick skulls. THANK YOU my darling. Tell them to bring it. Are they not STUDYING your Knowledge? I I I I I. ❤ stalker
Hello hello Danial, thank you for great job, i just send in my 1970 Kennedy .to PCGS for grading, comparing with other Kennedy's same year from the mint set ,weight are same,looking at the EDGE of coin my coin shows silver 100 percent. ,other coins clearly i see copper mixed with silver , IS THAT A MINT ERROR DANIAL?
I know you hear I all the time....but I think I want you to see one I came across in an aftermarket cardboard plastic case with a quarter and a dime from 64 with d marks. Scratches look legit and file marks are present on neck and even behind ear.
64 proof sets are common and you got to know how to use price guides and know the grading fees before thinking about sending them off for grading. We sell 64 sets for $35
Hey brother I know you are right it’s almost impossible to have one but I believe I have. I just wanted to know if I can trust the people who are doing the grading and also you mentioned something about registry coin. Appreciate your input
Thanks u for the Food News, after sendung your Videos i buy a half Kennedy dollers mont Mark D, and with the same little drop under number 4,, the Coin idonnt clean it , i will try to Sent u e mail with pictures from the Coin plus the second Coin from 1776 1976, Philadelphia eisenhower cameo Face but Looks somehow Like Gold color in original and seperat in blue Plastik box written at the Plastik box AS i See at the Cornet Made in England , with my best regards from switzerland, Bobby❤️🤑🥇
Hi! Daniel I have a 1964 D P JFK Silver Half Dollar. This coin of mine have a D mint mark in lower right side of 9 in 1964 in the Obverse which is from Denver and no mint mark in the Reverse which is from Philadelphia. We know this 1964 JFK Silver Half Dollar is a transitional coin and in my opinion this is a Prototype or Experimental Coin. By Gilroy Roberts and Frank Gasparro.
I will leave that to someone else. Thanks. I am not debating with people over their quarters. People think they have the SMS half enough. You're not just going to find these somewhere.
i have heard rumors of these sets out there . but never actually seen one ..I don't believe that there probably less than a 50 sets total ...if that ..one characteristic they say you can keep an eye out for is there's a teardrop on the four on the 50cent coin....nm should have watch the whole video b4 commenting .
Like all coins as the dies wear they are treated accordingly and the finish is Satin, it's the first thing to look for of any coin or coins to identify. They are so close in the shine Satin and no finish when first done it would be very hard to tell one from the other. So as time passes on though the finish is a big part in keeping a coin or a table or about all that have o e on it. A Satin finish is weaker much weaker than high gloss and that is with all finishes. Metal and wood it's the same as far as a protective seal on all. So Satin is also much easier on the eyes and carries nice eye appeal. So as the dies started to wear they would leave many similar marks or the like to many of those with a die chip or the like. This is 5 coins of that sms set and no doubt what so ever !!!
I am in Canada, I have never had a coin graded, I would like to get one appraised at PCGS, however part of me is suspicious about them swapping a coin, or even the coin being stolen in the mail, I need to get past this and do it, any advice for a new to having coins graded lady?
Hey Daniel, Thanks for this video. I really helped me understand what to look for. I actually have around 6 SMS sets but now I'm wondering if they are al authentic.
I agree. You don't owe anybody anything just because your a coin dealer. problem is people to tight an lazy to send the dern thing in an find out there self.
I have 2 not 1 but 2 half dollar of 1964. The second one my father have kept is with silver around the coin for necklace but when I put them together the second one ilike new. How can I identify what kind of 1964 coins of half dollar is? I am not expecting to worth thousands but I am pretty sure there is 2 different coins of 1964 Kenedy1964 50 cents
CoinHELPu I’ve seen one and hand one in my hand and it’s a amazing distinctive coin that’s just breathtaking if you’re a Kennedy half dollar collector.
I actually have the envelope that it came in. It’s got all the markings except the thing on the 4. I have all the coins still. I was just going through my collection to see what I wanted to send in for grading.
Ok guys, here is the deal…I went through all my coins. I found the ones that go with the envelope. Those weren’t it. I’m not sure exactly what the set I have is and/or I can say that maybe it isn’t the SMS set, but, then what exactly are they? If the JFK half dollar alone in the SMS set has the accented hair reverse and the one I have has the same G in FG and the same breaks in the rays where they meet the stars……and so forth.?I almost want to make a video and post it so everyone can see instead of assume. It may not be the SMS set but then what in the heck are the darn things? This is a frustrating ordeal for sure.
Ok so they have to be fake because I have THE actual 1966 SMS set and I went through my coins again because a thought dawned on me, my 1964-D has the same reverse. I know 1965, 66, and 67, they had no mint mark what so ever, but if you stopped and thought for a sec….1964 very much so, did have mint marks. So, whoever faked these coins, put a lot of thought in to that one I don’t know whether to be impressed or upset.
@@forbiddenhistory2331 k, just give me a bit because I do not know what I am doing lol but it will get done as soon as I can figure it all out and I’m going to start now so hopefully sooner than later.
I have that kind of coin, i'm 100% positive, the reason i din't sent it to grading i scared to lost my coin, i'm new colector also my 1964 SMS has double die obverse all the letters and date has a tear drops the number 4...
I have one of this but I don't know if is one of the valuable. I live in Crete Greece and I don't even know how I get this one. Where can I send a picture to have a look? It is not on good shape ,have a lot of marks on .I don't have right now a magnifier to check it but I will get one the next days.
Thanks for the reply. This answer should rule out many "could be" 64 sms. I used to think i had one when i first started collecting but turns out it was just a beautiful 64 proof
Actually, one of the sms does NOT have a teardrop and not all the coins have "exact" markers with the exceptions of about 6 exact markers listed on vdbcoins. So, this coin is an exception to the rule I believe.
Unless you have newer information that is not what they said, this is from their website. Two final Kennedy half issues deserve mention. A number of experimental 1964 Special Mint Set (or Specimen/Special Strike) coins were produced under mysterious (and unknown) circumstances, which are quite rare. We believe the 1964 SMS coins, the Kennedy halves in particular, are among the rarest coins produced in the second half of the 20th century. Please see the photo of our MS67 PCGS example on this site, part of our Registry Set items that are not for sale. We have done much research and believe the true number of SMS sets produced was 15-20 at most. Not all of them contained true 1964 SMS Kennedys, however, according to a source who was present when they first came to light in Stack's auctions in 1991 (not 1993 as is often given, as we have found Stack's catalogs from 1991 offering these coins). PCGS has certified only a dozen 1964 SMS halves, with some undoubted duplications. We have done extensive research on this series and believe that possibly only a dozen to 15 true 1964 SMS halves survive. We think most of the NGC examples have been cracked out and resubmitted to PCGS; the population data for both services are undoubtedly inflated, for all five denominations. We have handled several examples of each denomination, cent through half (and four complete sets) via private treaty. We are attempting to complete a roster of all known 1964 SMS examples; please let us know if you currently own/have owned any certified (NGC or PCGS) 1964 SMS coins, including the certification number and whatever details you can share. We will respect any confidential information.
@@CoinHELPuThis is the specific article I was referring to... Read very carefully under the heading 'Die Markers Obverse'. There IS one example WITHOUT the teardrop that has been certified and this also gives key characteristic markers. This article has helped me alot, eventhough many think they have one, it is my humble position there may be test strikes in proof sets or there may have been some released for GAC...Just something to keep in mind. www.vdbcoins.com/index.php/component/virtuemart/sold-archive-of-sold-coins/1964-sms-kennedy-half-ms67-pcgs-incredible-20th-century-rarity-detail?Itemid=0
@@CoinHELPu I have asked in some communities and there is such a wide degree of opinion of course because of the stigma surrounding their existence.... My theory (of course just as a collector not an expert by any means), is that this specific example withOUT the teardrop was accepted because of pedigree. I believe anonymity is given to most sellers, and I respect that...but that being said, I think this is also why you see an area of "protectionism" for lack of a better word, regarding these strikes. Also, I have personally researched this because of variations I have seen. As to the doubling, I think that is evident on all the other strikes of the SMS except the one withOUT the teardrop that they make the assumption that one was the first strike, as stated in the article. But I try to remember that it is an assumption when looking at the other coins in the group and again most likely based on its specific pedigree. Also, the fact that the mint continues to elude to the existence of a 1964 Peace Dollar and shows a mockup on its top 100 collectors coins makes this very very intriguing to me... My theory is never say never..especially when it comes to coins.. and dancing of course...😊
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Well, I agree with you! We have a couple that appear to be SMS. But, not perfect match on the example.
The two that we have have more extreme doubling & exact die markers on both coins. They appear to be quadruple die. Not this example coin you reference.
They don't have the normal finish is rough, they do have minor die scraps that are identical
If we did not two of them. I would just say it's damage. But, both coins match identical
But, they will have to be sent off to verify and I like ANACS.
But, I do think there is more of these coins out here than just the 50 sets.
I think there are several verity of the coin and that they were having problems getting the die right.
Just my personal thought.
But, it's sad that people get nasty about it.
I really appreciate your videos. Thanks for going over the markers.
You can see one of them at nuggetridge.com You decide. We have two. But, one is in Spain & here in us. We will grade together.
So, we have to grade both at Same time because they are nearly identical.
But, the some of die markers same die as the example you show.
CoinHELPu I need a grading company send me a number
I have a 1964 set that came in the SMS envelope is all I’m saying. Unless the envelope that is like all the other SMS envelopes that I have is a fake along with the coins that came in the envelope.
Totally need your help on this. Marks are present snd I can bring it to you.
Thankyou
I am a beginner! I so appreciate that you take time to show and explain things! Thank you!
I just can't convey how much I love your channel. You are the go to hands down.
Thanks for this... The reason so many people get fooled is because other TH-cam bloggers, who are normally pretty good, get people with click-bait. They actually do gin up interest, but do so at an expense to the hobby. I can't tell you how many people on coin forums claim they have a 1964 SMS coin, when the truth is they were all with Eva Adams, then sold off to collectors, who sold to other collectors. So the chances if finding it in change or a Dansco album or coin roll from the bank (as some bloggers claim) at home are close to zero...
I agree, they would be common if all of them found one. And they down right argue and get nasty with you over this coin, I refuse to look or talk about them when someone starts on the 64.
Daniel is always on point. I can only imagine the number of people he has to deal with that are misinformed, and lack the ability to be effective listeners.
Cool video, just found 3 1964 Kennedy Half Dollars in my rolled coins that I didn't know I had. Just picking up this hobby. 🍻
Best video I’ve seen describing the fine markers of a SMS Kennedy.
Having just recently gone down the Rabbit Hole, I appreciate the detailed point by point information provided re: 64 JFK Half Dollar, and look forward to watching other videos on the channel.
Well Done.
I love this video. I'm going to save it. So I can watch it over and over till I got it memorized. Thank You Daniel.
Charlie Glover I save CoinHELPu videos too so I know exactly which video to check each time I get new coins. It’s a great resource.
This one you really explained and showed the coin very well in details. Thank you
I apologize. I am still ecstatic on the bank notes. I know you are talking about my most likely loved KENNEDY coin. However....back to the dollar's. Who has those beauties? Oh...i love military paper money....cause we all THANK THEM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN FOR MAKING AMERICA THE BEST PLACE TO BE......AND GOD BLESS KENNEDY. HE ....BY THE WAY WOULD HAVE BEEN A WONDERFUL PRESIDENT IF GIVEN THE CHANCE.THANK YOU. I LOVE ALL YOUR VIDEOS. I THINK I GOT THIS ONE MR.MALONE. When you have something special like that Kennedy...you keep it. Money is not options sometimes. You are a GREAT TEACHER!
Daniel I know you have the very best intentions, but if they want to argue tell them to move on if they don’t believe you. You give the best information and are very Thorough, there is no reason to argue. Especially when you’re giving your time and knowledge for free
You know how it is. I had two people jump me on FB over their coins. I was not rude and answered as always, then they call on the phone at the shop, and send messages. People are goofy over these SMS halves. but have no idea they are not going to find one.
Yeah they should try to buy a sms set to begin with. Completely different finish .
This video just saved me so much time. No one has the half piece.
Hi Daniel, thanks for sharing your master knowledge of coins, very educational for newbies like me, great job!
If people are being rude to you ,it's probably because they don't know anything about coins.I think your program is very informative and I've learned a lot in the short time I've been collecting.Thank you for sharing your info with us and I'm looking forward to your next video.
Best coin channel! Truthful info.
Thank you
Great Job buddy! Thanks for Sharing
Cool video , I have been searching for that coin and still haven't found one ,
Very INFORMATIVE video love it and THANK YOU FOR SHARING
You're not going to find it. Only 20 to 30 are known and they're not in circulation.
I have the coin. i want to sell it
I have about 200 Kennedy Halves and I have been collecting since the 1980's. I hope I have a good one also. But I promise not to get mad. Bruce
Very very good. Really enjoy your help
Thanks a lot for clearing that up daniel. I appreciate it. Sorry people get mad with you. Like your getting anything from telling them it's not the sms
Another great video, very informative. Thank you.
I know I don't have any 1964 SMS. I really wish that I did. Thanks for another great video.
Have a great evening/day. ;D
You too
@@CoinHELPu Thank you, Daniel ;D
Sorry people are not doing the research first before they try and convince others but keep up with sharing you knowledge I many others do appreciate what you give us thank you hardcore coin collectors hccbrett
Amazes me they think they're going to find it in bank rolls or something.
You’re job is best thanks for all your information
Thank You For Some More Great Information. I hadn't Heard of some of the things you Mentioned Before.
I think i have one and i want to sell it.
Interesting and informative... Thanks
Very interesting info, Thank You.
Thank you excellent information
👌 grandioso saber esa información 👌 SR DANIEL
Don't have any 1964 Kennedy coins. Got quite a few 1965-1969 though. Thanks Daniel.
I just gotta ask a short question after reading so many redundant comments/questions/thoughts that were posted directly on this informative video. Did anyone even watch it?
I don't think a 1/3rd of the commentors watch the videos
@@CoinHELPu I've got a old collection 5000pennys up to 1980s every half dollars from 1948 to 64 Franklin's some uncertalated some Penny's uncertalated 68 s wood like to talk to you about them they are for sell my no is 606 304-3929
@@CoinHELPu Hi Daniel, I can hear the frustration in your voice. Unfortunately, the people watching this video are your followers, who can easily get the differences between the SMS coins and the business strikes. The great unwashed masses out there don't seem to ever get it and will continue to insist they have a great rarity in hand.
Thanks for the information. Very useful!
Great video. Sorry that people get angry when you tell them the truth.
I have one graded by NGC and you are right
It is very different to a regular 64
I have 1964 half dollar the same you showed.
Unless you or a family member bought it at a major auction as a 1964 SMS then you don't have one of these. Less than 30 where minted and you can't find these in bank rolls, change, proof sets or mint sets. These are not found that way.
CoinHELPu its very beautiful and metallic but old
@@SuperPegasus7 1964 isn't old and the 90% silver Kennedy Halves are metal so they look metallic. You're not going to just find one of these, all were found in a deceased mint employee's house. So they were not released into circulation and their existence wasn't even known until they were found there.
Great information and your channel is growing so fast.. keep up the good work I have learned so much from your channel..one question do you do giveaways on your channel
Thank you! I haven't yet. I think about it then my schedule just seems to get in the way. I just passed a year so might try to have one. Again many thanks!
As in any coin key features details are what numismatics is all about anyone that isn't paying attention to key details isn't going to have much success doing this,Thank for this video ur knowledge is 💪and appreciated 🙌👏 I've been matching details but did not go as far as die lines but if all the key details don't match up then it's a different coin from what was thought I'm gonna keep digging but so far details r matching on mine all the info to steer me in The right direction is so helpful 💪
Totally objective. This guys great.
Hey man loved the video gonna be using ur channel some, I happen to have 4 1964s in my possession 2 uncased and 2 in a case. The two in the case do look rather different to the naked eye
I noticed also on the reverse a fat "N" and then skinny second "U" in UNUM. Interesting.
Also a way to remember those other marks you mentioned is to say you're "IDing" the 1964 Kennedy: "I" on the front and "D" on the back!!!!
Great info Daniel you never cease to prove your worth my friend thank you so very much man I appreciate you.
Respectfully,
Michael.
Thank you
Daniel thanks for sharing buddy sorry I haven't said anything as of late. Great Information about the SMS !!!
Thank you. No obligation!
I have 1964
Hi I agree with you. You are here to help us with knowledge, but if you think you have something send it out. Thank for info. newbie
I have 4 for real
Thanks for the info
Nice video Daniel
Thank you so much 🌹🌹🌹
Thank you Daniel for another informative video on these coins. Think i've come to the decision to just send my 64"s out for authentication. Then we'll both know more. Thinking ANACS will be cheaper then NGC. Currently working on finishing submissions to PMG as i know have some Fancy Serial #'s FRN'S worth having graded. Have a fantastic day my friend & God Bless
You too and good luck!
I got handed a 64’ half dollar as change. It’s not SMS, but I think it’s cool that it’s a 64’.
I live in Canada and I found both 64 runs 50 /1c found in a double case MS grade,in at PCGS now!!!!
that was very informative ty
Have 1964 dime as well mine has a satin color with peach color on top square edges weight 12.6 grams it has lines as well.
The web is there to get the info you need..... If they can go to FB to ask the question and post a pic then they can google it.....
Great video i will have to keep an eye out for that.. Something i have noticed ur audio is weird like its to high on ur end.. I only say this cause i dont have the same issue on other channels
I talk loud, when I do commercials I don't need a lapel mic lol
Thanks very much
Hello Danielle, i have a 1977 half a dollar are they worth keeping. Im new and just learning. I would love to go to a class to learn about coin collecting.
I think that I have a while set. Every coin is double die and the half dollar has what looks like the dangling 4. They don't have that shiny proof finish. It looks like a matte finish. I have never seen this holder before either. Very strong details and very sharp edges. Any help would be appreciated.
Do you have a video that describes more of what to look for. Some of the key factors to make it at SMS coin?
It's the finish. Die markers can confuse so it must have the satin finish.
Im sure this has already been covered ( I only read the comments from recent to several pages down) Im paraphrasing here but according to PCGS the graded coins are photographed prior to being encapsulated to ensure the best image possible. Having said that, it pretty much drives the point that your coin must look as close to exactly as a coin can get ,excluding PMD, without it miraculously becoming the actual coin you are comparing. (this has been known to happen on occasion and is always temporary with the coin in question reverting back to "close but no cigar" or "wtf was I looking at" after ones attention is diverted from coin inspection to back of eyelid inspection for three or more hours.)
I have 2 particular kennedy half dollars and its plainly clear that they both have different finishes. I sent one to pcgs who received it today, dec 3rd 2020. Once that comes back, I'll send in the other. I figure worst case scenario, if they grade a high MS and not a SP, I'll make quite alot more than what I have in them which is they were inherited.
What’d they come back as?
I bought The Presidents collection Americana Series a few weeks ago , It's odd the
Nickle is Not a 64 D , The rest are , It was Put together in 1998 by American Historic Society and it checks all the boxes Dan . I am just happy to Own it . I have a few hundred Thousand dollars , so I do not yet need the Money . But I want to send it along to be Graded with some other coins just to be sure :) QC
Hello, I'm pretty sure I have 3 if not 4 1964 sms Kennedy Half Dollar sets. They were gifted to me by my Grandpa. They were in the hard plastic case with the blue plastic identification coin. I need to get them graded. I also have a 90% silver 65 Kennedy uncirculated half dollar. I need to weigh a bunch of my coins. I didn't realize the true value of these coins.
My grandpa gave me a 64 Kennedy set in plastic with a blue base for the set. That was 1972. In '64 we toured the White House on a field trip from Michigan. I was 9. I still have the handout materials. It was still all the Kennedy brochures.
searching for a 1964 sms ??? i think i have a better chance of finding a unicorn...and am saying this for the rest of numismatics
What's this about unicorns?? You must not know where to look cause they're easy to find 😂
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I have one, it took me 25 minutes to watch this video for having to pause and rewind and replay lol but it lined up with everything you mentioned except maybe the one on the "I" but my scope is one of the middle tier ones, it's not as good as I would like it to be or I just don't know how to use it to its maximum potential, but yeah I gots one, the pcgs submitting process is so confusing to me!!! But I want it graded by pcgs and only pcgs, any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely
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My dad bought me and my sister a Kennedy Half Dollar date 1964 at the Worlds Fair in Queens NY and they came in a square container. We still have them. I never see anyone mentioning them. Are they just Philadelphia no mint mark? Thanks.
Yes, no mint mark from Philly and it’s a put together, after mint set.
How do I send you some pics? I have studied this video and compared pics and would LOVE to have your opinion on whether this is worth grading.
I don’t help like that. Sorry
Great informative video but I think one thing missing from the images shown and your video is also the sides of the coin. What you read about the coins in the beginning of the video talks about very distinct square reeding or something like that and no images were shown about how distinct they are or look. That would also help. I have a dime that from my local coin shop said is that air gets trapped when the coin is struck it almost acts like a bombe and cause damage and sometimes cause the layers of clad coin to separate he showed me exactly where it looked like this happened and learned something new. But also learned something new that same day. That someone who knows more about coins won't believe or try to tell you its nothing. My local coin shop guy I speak of tried pulling my coin apart, I'm glad he didn't break my coin, also he then proceeded to tell me it looked to be tampered with to make it look like an error. Yet you can see the damage from the coin where he told me that acts like a bomb when struck and how it causes such a thing 🤔. So you can see what he talked about what happened and then proceeded to discredit my coin and find. That day I decided I will get it graded and looked at by a grading company and not rely on some who is knowledgeable about coins im not saying he isn't, but to try and pull apart my coin I have and tell me it's nothing I have a problem with. When what he spoke about how something could come about you can clearly see and then proceed to say it has been tampered with have a big problem with. I'm no liar, not trying to cheat or take advantage of something or someone for money yet the implication of tampering doesn't sit well with me when I know exactly how I acquired such a coin by hunting no deception needed. Cause my coin looks so exotic from the side and if put in a holder means you would see it. Maybe along with a slab pcgs should make a print out of all things about the coin and point them out along with grading then when they slad it yoy would know everything wrong or you have with a coin, without having to break it open just to see something. Great video just felt the sides of the coin weren't pictured or left out and would help others when trying to identify such a coin from what you read about the coin. Seemingly seems particular to such a coin is my only thought. Also your videos about misrepresented coin selling online let's me know there still are good people in the world. That 1977 Kennedy half bu roll i bought should have said 1977 cherry picked like craxy mint set roll would have been more appropriate cause they all have mirror finishes but if these things are uncirculated meant he never sold them he kept and did whatever he wanted to with said coins is more appropriately titled lol
DANNY....send the meanies to me. ❤I appreciate that you are helping us ENTHUSIASTS. THANK YOU BOYFRIEND. YOU know I am kind. I may try to help them see through there thick skulls. THANK YOU my darling. Tell them to bring it. Are they not STUDYING your Knowledge? I I I I I. ❤ stalker
Hello hello Danial, thank you for great job, i just send in my 1970 Kennedy .to PCGS for grading, comparing with other Kennedy's same year from the mint set ,weight are same,looking at the EDGE of coin my coin shows silver 100 percent. ,other coins clearly i see copper mixed with silver , IS THAT A MINT ERROR DANIAL?
1965 to 1970 Kennedy Half Dollar have a copper core clad in silver, so it is normal.
Yes i have the best 3 pieces 🥇💎🌹
I know you hear I all the time....but I think I want you to see one I came across in an aftermarket cardboard plastic case with a quarter and a dime from 64 with d marks. Scratches look legit and file marks are present on neck and even behind ear.
I don't examine them. You will need to find someone who does. you can contact someone through CONECA and they will want to see it in hand.
How do I contact you, sir, please?
I have the 64 the proof sets? What could they be worth of each coin? What could that be worth roughly before I send it out to get graded
64 proof sets are common and you got to know how to use price guides and know the grading fees before thinking about sending them off for grading. We sell 64 sets for $35
@@CoinHELPu O k thank you very much I really thought I had something but I guess not
Hey brother I know you are right it’s almost impossible to have one but I believe I have.
I just wanted to know if I can trust the people who are doing the grading and also you mentioned something about registry coin.
Appreciate your input
Thanks u for the Food News, after sendung your Videos i buy a half Kennedy dollers mont Mark D, and with the same little drop under number 4,, the Coin idonnt clean it , i will try to Sent u e mail with pictures from the Coin plus the second Coin from 1776 1976, Philadelphia eisenhower cameo Face but Looks somehow Like Gold color in original and seperat in blue Plastik box written at the Plastik box AS i See at the Cornet Made in England , with my best regards from switzerland, Bobby❤️🤑🥇
Hi! Daniel I have a 1964 D P JFK Silver Half Dollar. This coin of mine have a D mint mark in lower right side of 9 in 1964 in the Obverse which is from Denver and no mint mark in the Reverse which is from Philadelphia.
We know this 1964 JFK Silver Half Dollar is a transitional coin and in my opinion this is a Prototype or Experimental Coin.
By Gilroy Roberts and Frank Gasparro.
I want to send you a photo and let me know your opinion.
Daniel you have a good day and god bless.
I don't help with these. You're not going to find an SMS.
I have Kennedy half dollar 1964 coin error cut ear ? What is your opinion my coin ?
Thanks in advance.
Mine are still in the mint sealed plastic so it's a bit difficult to see those lines but everything else checks out.
It's not about the lines or die marks, it must have an SMS finish. You have a proof coin not an SMS.
Plz do a video on sms quarter
I will leave that to someone else. Thanks. I am not debating with people over their quarters. People think they have the SMS half enough. You're not just going to find these somewhere.
Just a thought
i have heard rumors of these sets out there . but never actually seen one ..I don't believe that there probably less than a 50 sets total ...if that ..one characteristic they say you can keep an eye out for is there's a teardrop on the four on the 50cent coin....nm should have watch the whole video b4 commenting .
Less than 30
Good morning sir I have 1964 half dollar
Like all coins as the dies wear they are treated accordingly and the finish is Satin, it's the first thing to look for of any coin or coins to identify. They are so close in the shine Satin and no finish when first done it would be very hard to tell one from the other. So as time passes on though the finish is a big part in keeping a coin or a table or about all that have o e on it. A Satin finish is weaker much weaker than high gloss and that is with all finishes. Metal and wood it's the same as far as a protective seal on all. So Satin is also much easier on the eyes and carries nice eye appeal. So as the dies started to wear they would leave many similar marks or the like to many of those with a die chip or the like. This is 5 coins of that sms set and no doubt what so ever !!!
I'd love to see a pic.
I am in Canada, I have never had a coin graded, I would like to get one appraised at PCGS, however part of me is suspicious about them swapping a coin, or even the coin being stolen in the mail, I need to get past this and do it, any advice for a new to having coins graded lady?
If you feel this way then this is not the game for you. Sorry but that's just how it is. You either trust or you don't.
Hey Daniel, Thanks for this video. I really helped me understand what to look for. I actually have around 6 SMS sets but now I'm wondering if they are al authentic.
As long as they're 1965 to 1967 then they're SMS, but no one is going to just find a 1964 SMS coin or set.
@@CoinHELPu Thanks Daniel. I appreciate it. They are all within those dates.
I sent the picture on Facebook of 1964 I have all set of Kennedy Philadelphia mint
I have 2 1964 sms from us treasury department,sets r from philadelphia mint r complete.
You have proof sets. SMS sets where not released.
You’re the expert!😂
People got nasty i hit that subscription lol 😆
I agree. You don't owe anybody anything just because your a coin dealer. problem is people to tight an lazy to send the dern thing in an find out there self.
Good video i have half dol'lor 64 Ken and several quarters who will buy those,
I have 2 not 1 but 2 half dollar of 1964.
The second one my father have kept is with silver around the coin for necklace but when I put them together the second one ilike new.
How can I identify what kind of 1964 coins of half dollar is?
I am not expecting to worth thousands but I am pretty sure there is 2 different coins of 1964 Kenedy1964 50 cents
The half dollar 64 SMS has like a Metallic like finish that’s one of a kind. When you have one you will know it Believe me.
I try to tell people but they all think they have one.
CoinHELPu I’ve seen one and hand one in my hand and it’s a amazing distinctive coin that’s just breathtaking if you’re a Kennedy half dollar collector.
yes, it is true very different from some coins.
I actually have the envelope that it came in. It’s got all the markings except the thing on the 4. I have all the coins still. I was just going through my collection to see what I wanted to send in for grading.
They didn’t come in envelopes and wasn’t issued to collectors.
Ok guys, here is the deal…I went through all my coins. I found the ones that go with the envelope. Those weren’t it. I’m not sure exactly what the set I have is and/or I can say that maybe it isn’t the SMS set, but, then what exactly are they? If the JFK half dollar alone in the SMS set has the accented hair reverse and the one I have has the same G in FG and the same breaks in the rays where they meet the stars……and so forth.?I almost want to make a video and post it so everyone can see instead of assume. It may not be the SMS set but then what in the heck are the darn things? This is a frustrating ordeal for sure.
Ok so they have to be fake because I have THE actual 1966 SMS set and I went through my coins again because a thought dawned on me, my 1964-D has the same reverse. I know 1965, 66, and 67, they had no mint mark what so ever, but if you stopped and thought for a sec….1964 very much so, did have mint marks. So, whoever faked these coins, put a lot of thought in to that one I don’t know whether to be impressed or upset.
@@forbiddenhistory2331 k, just give me a bit because I do not know what I am doing lol but it will get done as soon as I can figure it all out and I’m going to start now so hopefully sooner than later.
And it’s posted
I have that kind of coin, i'm 100% positive, the reason i din't sent it to grading i scared to lost my coin, i'm new colector also my 1964 SMS has double die obverse all the letters and date has a tear drops the number 4...
They're not doubled dies so you don't have an SMS, these are well documented.
Hi, so I have to go find them in the closet to take a look but if I have a 1964 mint set that is original, does that mean it is a sms?
I have one of this but I don't know if is one of the valuable. I live in Crete Greece and I don't even know how I get this one.
Where can I send a picture to have a look?
It is not on good shape ,have a lot of marks on .I don't have right now a magnifier to check it but I will get one the next days.
I have three of them coins right now
Hi Daniel , I have a half JK 1964 silver coin, can you please tell me tha value I really appreciate it, thank you.
What did the mint packaging look like?
No mint packaging wasn't for collectors nor released
Thanks for the reply. This answer should rule out many "could be" 64 sms. I used to think i had one when i first started collecting but turns out it was just a beautiful 64 proof
Actually, one of the sms does NOT have a teardrop and not all the coins have "exact" markers with the exceptions of about 6 exact markers listed on vdbcoins. So, this coin is an exception to the rule I believe.
Unless you have newer information that is not what they said, this is from their website.
Two final Kennedy half issues deserve mention. A number of experimental 1964 Special Mint Set (or Specimen/Special Strike) coins were produced under mysterious (and unknown) circumstances, which are quite rare. We believe the 1964 SMS coins, the Kennedy halves in particular, are among the rarest coins produced in the second half of the 20th century. Please see the photo of our MS67 PCGS example on this site, part of our Registry Set items that are not for sale. We have done much research and believe the true number of SMS sets produced was 15-20 at most. Not all of them contained true 1964 SMS Kennedys, however, according to a source who was present when they first came to light in Stack's auctions in 1991 (not 1993 as is often given, as we have found Stack's catalogs from 1991 offering these coins). PCGS has certified only a dozen 1964 SMS halves, with some undoubted duplications. We have done extensive research on this series and believe that possibly only a dozen to 15 true 1964 SMS halves survive. We think most of the NGC examples have been cracked out and resubmitted to PCGS; the population data for both services are undoubtedly inflated, for all five denominations. We have handled several examples of each denomination, cent through half (and four complete sets) via private treaty. We are attempting to complete a roster of all known 1964 SMS examples; please let us know if you currently own/have owned any certified (NGC or PCGS) 1964 SMS coins, including the certification number and whatever details you can share. We will respect any confidential information.
@@CoinHELPuThis is the specific article I was referring to... Read very carefully under the heading 'Die Markers Obverse'.
There IS one example WITHOUT the teardrop that has been certified and this also gives key characteristic markers. This article has helped me alot, eventhough many think they have one, it is my humble position there may be test strikes in proof sets or there may have been some released for GAC...Just something to keep in mind.
www.vdbcoins.com/index.php/component/virtuemart/sold-archive-of-sold-coins/1964-sms-kennedy-half-ms67-pcgs-incredible-20th-century-rarity-detail?Itemid=0
Btw, I do really appreciate all of your videos!
But one example and what if they find out it's not an actual SMS? Also why don't they mention the doubled areas on these coins? Thanks for the info!
@@CoinHELPu I have asked in some communities and there is such a wide degree of opinion of course because of the stigma surrounding their existence....
My theory (of course just as a collector not an expert by any means), is that this specific example withOUT the teardrop was accepted because of pedigree. I believe anonymity is given to most sellers, and I respect that...but that being said, I think this is also why you see an area of "protectionism" for lack of a better word, regarding these strikes. Also, I have personally researched this because of variations I have seen. As to the doubling, I think that is evident on all the other strikes of the SMS except the one withOUT the teardrop that they make the assumption that one was the first strike, as stated in the article. But I try to remember that it is an assumption when looking at the other coins in the group and again most likely based on its specific pedigree.
Also, the fact that the mint continues to elude to the existence of a 1964 Peace Dollar and shows a mockup on its top 100 collectors coins makes this very very intriguing to me...
My theory is never say never..especially when it comes to coins.. and dancing of course...😊