My guess is the noise is coming from the coupling between the motor and the shaft. Underway with the motor running take a look at the coupling to see if there's a run out condition. You should be able to see with your eye if there is a wobble between the shaft and the motor. It would make sense that if the bottom bolt on the motor was loose it would cause a misalignment between the shaft and motor coupling. Your channel is great fun to watch.
It's still better than 40hrs a week Ina factory. You are literally free to go where the wind blows, even if it's not blowing where you think you want to go, you always end up somewhere interesting. Relax a little and go with the flow. Good Luck and may the wind be ever in your sails!
Stay strong and good spirited, no doubt it can and will be tough from time to time but, nothing is ever easy and you are doing what you love to do.... stay safe and well to you both and Yoshi!
Hi Mark, from the pictures in your video, it appears that you have grease caps fitted on your stern glands, the trick I was taught was that the grease should be thick -used some old fashion water pump grease and give each grease cap a half turn when you have finished with engines ro presureise the grease and take up the slack so water ingress to a minimum. for ease of access fitted a remote greaser with connecting tube, the greaser had a screw thread so you still gave it half a turn. have you got (can you, beg, borrow or - - - ) a dial test indicator which can be positioned on an arm to measure the runout/play or bow in your shaft. that would give uou an accurate assessment of what is happening when you turn the shaft over by hand.
Great suggestion that would be the proper way to diagnose if it is a problem with the shat or perhaps the coupling and for that matter Mark could check the axial alignment of the motor as well by setting up the indicator on the back side of the hydraulic motor to see if it is moving in the mounting position as he suspended a loose lower bolt.
Don't let the little stuff get to you. Re-check the weather just before pulling up your anchor. If conditions are not favorable then sit tight. You guys are doing a great job. Yoshi thinks you are doing fabulous. So cheer up and no more worries. ♡ Never let plans make you go out in unfavorable conditions. There is always tomorrow. : )
I enjoy and appreciate your videos and have watched them all from the outset. Have also owned 5 boats over my time - all of them with a few years of age to them - and have experienced many of the ups and downs you are having. Unlike some postings I think you have been very sensible and admire your resourcefulness and desire to learn. It is depressing when you get a run of problems but work methodically and don’t worry about fixing everything overnight. The joys of some good days will quickly reward you and remind you why you are doing it! Best wishes, Andrew
Hi Mark, The object in the ground you found is a observation post and machinegun post covering the Harbor, great video, stay safe keep well to you both and Yoshi!
I'm starting to see that Mark is a glass half empty kind of guy (which is healthy) and Nardiana is a glass half full kind of gal (which is also healthy); your turnaround destination was great and enjoyable to watch. Meant to be I say so enjoy more your semi planned and semi unexpected mystery adventures xx Always look forward to watching
Great show again. Many aviation engines use mineral oil for breaking in. After that we switch to a regular ash less dispersant oil. Im glad see that you’re using the recommended oil. Have a safe trip you two
Sometimes if you want to get somewhere, you just have to motor! Keep happy and enjoy where you ended up. He says having just motored singled handed for 85 miles, a 16 hour trip!
Get plenty of good rest before making those trips so when things like bad weather reports crop up you won't feel so exhausted and perhaps make a bad decision. Good luck to you two.
The never give up nor give in... Your both such brilliant ppl.. Yoshi is doing so much better as a boat doggo.. thanks for sharing your lives with us grateful ✌🏼💗😊❣️
You three stay strong, you three have gone extremely far it's always dark before dawn. Stay strong, and smile as often as you can, and i am thankful for your uploading your adventures!!!
well, I think I've done it...I found another 35 Cherokee I've committed to buy...I didn't plan on this kind of boat, to be honest, had been looking at prouts and Geminis here, but found a beautiful example of a one of these. Your videos gave me some confidence in this one i'm buying because I feel like having see you guys sail and work out some kinks, I've been doing it with you, on the same boat no less! I hope to be able to offer advice (and maybe get a little here and there) as we sail our sister ships!
Life on a sailboat is all about high highs, and low lows. There really is no flatlining. And there is no thing as a perfectly working boat. But you do have to learn about how to control anxieties, stress, doubts, worries, odd sounds, odd smells...haha, life in paradise😁
Mark Looked a bit stressed... Listen to your wife Mark 😉😁 I agree Mark Cutlass rubber shaft bearings need to be wet or they get chewed out when the shaft rotates. You guys are doing really well.
You are correct about the engine oil, only mineral oils. These are really good basic oils used in heavy working machines, ships etc. If the oil gets black early, refresh with half amount half way, then change all oil when time is up. Synthetic oils are good for high power applications - modern cars, planning boats and cold climate. Doesnt do any good in a cruising sailboat, only adding cost and destroying seals.
Another enjoyable update of your adventure together. Friday evenings would not be the same without them. So nice to see sweet little Yoshi, once a stray landlubber, roaming around a boat yard looking for somebody to befriend him. Just look at him now, a fully fledged sea-dog. Stay safe guys.
I think your cat is awesome. Just think of it as, you bought a $300,000 usd cat for almost nothing down and monthly payments whenever you can afford to make them. I think you guys are miles ahead of others with large boat payments and even they have costly repairs that have to be made. The two of you are wonderfully made for each other and you get to experience this grand adventure together. The regular challenges you face are a small price to pay such privileges' that many only dream about.
Dear Nadiyana and Mark, This time we did hear the tapping sound you were talking about veery well but Dick Isn’t sure that it was caused by the engine. You also hear the same sound when the connecting rod to the propeller has run out of the bearings. Maybe it’s wise to check this first before you start the search process with the engine. When an overhaul is properly done it can’t be the engine. We wish you both lots of wisdom in relation to this and wish you as well as your dear family all the happiness of the world plus we send you ❤️ from the Netherlands. Best regards, Willeke and Dick de Graaff
I think you did good heading back. After all, why do you have to get there on a schedule. Live:) and love:) I love you guys, keep up the good work and thank you for sharing your life.
@23:46 on the other side of the oil fill, that vibrating fuel line holder will eventually rub through the metal line. You can see where it already has the paint wore off. I'd either put some rubber padding inside it, or take it off completely.
Mineral oil for the OM636 is correct! It is not the viscosity, but the size of the chain molecules. Synthetic oil has much shorter chain molecules, and can escape through "smaller cracks" so to speak.
All 'Grist to the Mill' ar kid/s! I do like the way you are both visibly slowing down and relaxing into the daily stress of 'old boat life's' knocks, knackered and leaks though! When you just don't fancy it... why bother? Your casual intimacy with your reconditioned 'Frau' is impressive too Mark ... whipping off her top cover and bathing her in mineral oil was a seasoned pro at work! Crack on guys!
Regarding knocking sounds on port side: The pic at 1:38 is a good place to start. The flanged coupling between hydraulic drive and propeller shaft is not very tolerant of any misalignment between the two shafts ( radial, angular or axial). You will probably be better able to observe or hear the offending vibration or knocking while the propeller is engaged at some nominal speed. Most likely the knocking frequency is closely related to shaft rpm. …so will be difficult to observe if just spinning by hand. Places most suspect would include propeller shaft keyway, coupling flange bolts , mounting flange for hydraulic drive or shaft bearing in hydraulic drive. ***Be very careful of where you put your fingers or tools while examining a spinning shaft ****. It’s dark and cramped and not very forgiving when under way. The small plywood mounting surface is probably serving the function of a flexible mount to deal with any potential misalignment (.not good) …. But, If that’s true , then vibration, water intrusion from bilge and time will exacerbate the problem . The shaft seal ( stuffing box) could see some xtra wear from too much vibration, but not a likely cause of the problem. A bent propeller shaft could cause similar vibration and alignment “issues” . But you kids would likely have experienced some event recently to make you suspicious. Play in the cutlass bearing ( which is relatively far away at the propeller end) can contribute, but save that experiment until you better isolate the problem. If your diagnostics lead you to misalignment issues…The mating flanges of the shaft coupling may serve as a convenient datum to quantify misalignment or runout between the two shafts. Separate the two a nominal amount and measure the resulting gaps. The relative amount you need to tighten each bolt to secure the flange will tell you a lot. Best of luck. …a small price to pay for living in paradise. regards, -bill
Tapping could be the bearing in the hydraulic motor. Use a stethoscope (a screwdriver works) and listen for the origin. At any rate it doesn’t sound like a huge issue
I agree with ajax1137 on both counts. Using mineral or good old dinosaur oil on older engines is the way to go. Natural oil has all the vitamins (particulates) that keep them happy.
Pollença is amazing - I've been on so many lovely family holidays there - be sure to visit Pollença town as well as Porto Pollença. Menorca, I've only visited recently, but I fell in love with the place. Go visit the fish market in Mahon, it's fantastic! x
You did ok, sorry you didn't make it to Menorca from Mallorca. But, I got a good look at WW2 hidden weapon [probably machine gun] pit. It was a nic bay, I'm also guessing theres another pit on the other side for a crossfire. Nice job though, theres always stuff to do. Thanks m8s, you and yours stay safe asnd well.
Get a run out guage with a magnetic base and check both out put propeller shafts. On the inside of the boat. This way you will know what you are dealing with., if there is a problem. Then check factory spec for clearance.
Im in Menorca, wind breeze starts normaly around 1000 and loose 1830... These coming days very very low winds... Turning bit... Mahon from easterly. Its the time with less winds during the year. Menorca east Ciutadela will be full packed.. The most famoust Fiesta, San Juan will be 23-24 but starting Sunday... From Mainland and Mallorca thousands and thousands will celebrste this crazy horsefiesta. San Joan Ciutadela.. Quiet will be more to the east to the island.. Best beaches and most relaxing beautyful island is Menorca.. In Mahon we are for you for any Problem... And even if you hv probs at the south.. Relax
Good job Mark. Don't worry so much about the noise coming from the engine. Maybe if you could just reduce the engine RPM's a little it would also reduce the viberations from the prop shafts. Just a suggestion. Sail on.
Guys you could be getting hammered in WoT F7 conditions in the Irish Sea and thinking "this is it, it's all over".....oh no sorry that's me....damn forecasts. 😉
The thing about old engines doesn't apply to you you have all new gaskets and seals. The life comparison between mineral oil and synthetic oil engines is a telling reason synthetic is significantly extended life with fewer lubricant related failures and fewer oil changes. As a diesel mechanic with a half century of experience I'd say it's safe to use synthetic in a fresh rebuilt motor. Yoshi agrees with me. See when I was young and there was only mobile 1 synthetic and a English synthetic the only companies using it were in extreme north Alaska they used it on the. Alaska pipeline. Synthetic has a much lower gel point than synthetic. Engines start easier in extreme cold than mineral oil engines. Other than that. The long life of modern engines is really the best argument for synthetic oil. In the old days if a driver got 500,000 miles on a Cummins engine one of the longer life engines . Cummins made a big deal out of it they'd fly the driver and his wife back to the Cummins plant for a tour and they'd present the driver with a plaque for the dash of his truck. That's because it was a extreme rarity to get 500,000 miles on a engine . A modern diesel that doesn't get a million miles on it had a bad driver . Today a million miles is expected. The diesels were redesigned . But I believe the biggest change was switching to synthetic oils.
I think that you may find that the machining of the piston cylinder bores have something to do with it. Older classics have deliberately( actually left over from steam days) very fine (microscopic) grouves in the bore that holds the mineral oil.This is better for cold starts as the oil is retained in the bore longer & avoids dry cold starting one gets from modern oils. The synthetic is designed for modern bores with more accurately machined smoother bores. It does not stick to the sides of the bore in the same way as the shear action in the oil is different. Modern bores are more "polished" but still have those grooves but less so. Mineral oil deals with sludge differently due to the different detergents.Wildings engine is a low power engine so benefits from an oil designed for that type.
I think that you may not understand the difference between a marine auxilliary engine & a vehicle engine. A marine one will never last anything like your road engine simply because of the environment of salt along with the short use from entry & departure from port. My engine has done 5000 hours & the dealer expressed surprise saying that he has Volvo pentas changed after 1500 hours simply due to corrosion & failure to get warm etc . They get full of salt in the supplementary cooling . The oil sits in the engine & the acid in the oil causes corrosion when left.. The rev changes causes oil surge- never happens in a slow reving constant running marine engine that often never runs at full throttle load for long which a diesel really needs to do. Lots of reasons but no way can one expect the life a vehicle engine
@@grahamlongley8298 you may not understand synthetic creates a better barrier and promotes longer bearing life. My statement about engine longevity was pointing out the doubling life expectancy of diesels in a few short years coincidentally synthetic oil came into widespread use during that period also
@@timerickson7056 Double the engine life did not happen at the same time synthetic oil became available. you have just pointed out that it has been around for years. Longer life came about due to better manufacturing technique since then. If you feel modern synthetics are better, explain why Castrol Penrith Duckhams etalia still make mineral oil specifically for older classic vehicles & why they state that some modern synthetics should NOT be used on old classics.
I like keeping the fenders out when in busy anchorages- might look trampy, but several times it’s kept us from harm when other boats (once ours) have dragged…love you two!
After all your patience, conviction, dedication you two are a force which quite frankly I'm impressed 🙏🥰 Did Cat "Minke" have to be so annoying after all you TLC you've given!
Just keep pushing on and don't even think about past errors all that does is put negative thoughts in your heads instead just focus on the next immediate step. Each task completed brings you closer to your goals.
ok i heard enough about the shaft what must be done is to prove that the motor coupling is not worn due to miss alignment any miss alignment will cause a number of issues one is the couplings will wear as it rotates round 360deg over time it will get worce and could shear the prop shaft , the couplings may be keywayed and the key is worn and loose on shaft. the motor coupling may be splined and again through miss alignment be worn this coupling will be supported by a bearing and seal both could be worn excessively to find out this the motor needs to be removed from the housing at this point its worth remembering it has been fitted with special bolts through the housing these will come loose due to the vibration of the prop even if it is just a few thou of inch out lose bolting will do this . so before you pull the boat out of the water you need to prove the motor and couplings are in good order and aligned correctly with a feeler blade this can be done flange to flange. 2 thou top botton and sides the stright edge is to see if the couplings are the same at each point north south east west.. it could be a small square bar . so you say a friend at the end i hope hes done this type of engineering ,I have on bigger props than yours 25ton and lifebouts and all the sea cats you have seen on the mersey . tom . hope it goes well. good luck.
You are right to be using 100% conventional oil. You had me confused calling it Mineral oil (I’ve been out of uk for too long in usa). Nobody uses that term over here . I was thinking you were talking about non-detergent oil used in machinery or possibly that strange Castro’s R racing oil. Synthetic oils would be completely wrong for this and most marine engines that often sit for weeks unused. Synthetics are very clever in the way that they don’t break down and are super slippery to get maximum fuel economy but they also drain away from surfaces when the engine is not running over time ,so when you start the engine you’re in a low lubrication situation that is made worse by synthetic oils. And remember starting an engine is the worst thing you can do to it, it’s went all the wear occurs. FYI do not disassemble the hydraulic motors that should only ever be done in a very clean environment by somebody who knows what they are doing. Cheers Warren
Hey!! See the way Nadia turned her hand to undo the cap using thumb and forefinger? She probably doesn't realise it, likewise a great many people watching this, but if the forefinger points in the direction (so ideal for left handers when undoing) of travel then the fingers act like a pipe wrench and lock on to the cap. A lifetime observing people can teach you all kinds of stuff! Try it.
My lake boat (Catalina 25) is on a mooring ball, I use the same technique for cleaning. I am number two at the club for a slip, hopefully I will get a slip next month. Once on the slip I will paint the top deck and start fixing up the cabin.
I’m sure you know this but it didn’t come across in the video, but the cutlass bearing is normally separate from the shaft seal. Depending on a shaft seal some there is a nibble where you put grease in which will reduce the water ingress through the seal. Good luck finding a solution.
You guys are making great progress, I see you've cleaned the props, did it make any difference to the shaft vibrations? One big barnacle on the prop can make it behave badly. I would never take the rocker cover off to fill the oil, too concerned with creating another leak, I've always found that if there is oil on the gasket when refitting more oil will find its way out. Wipe both surfaces clean then apply grease or non hardening gasket cement. Find a suitable plastic funnel to use in the filler, keep in wrapped in a clean rag when not in use. Fair winds!
Would it be safe to put a couple of coats of car wax/polish/sealant on the solar panels? Water would then bead off easily with rain or a hose. Make sure they have a few degrees of slope on them.
I put rain x on 1/2 my car window. On normal mornings that side would be covered in dew drops while the other side was dry. I’ll never use it again. Probably a bad idea to put it on the panels.
Ha. Those stuffed vine leaves make a great boat cupboard Lidl find. Avoid the Greek 'style' au engines in oil...a right soggy mess. I converted to many tinned foods years ago. Not necessarily nicer..but always an adventure!
Hello Mark and you're beautiful wife hope you get all of that figured out that way you can spend more time sailing and less time repairing. By the way I like your shirt I used to wear shirts like that all the time tropical shirts are pretty cool to wear not so hot in the summer. Anyways thank you for the update stay safe I love you and God bless
Or an unbalanced prop. I changed to electric propulsion this year and without the noise of the diesel, I can now hear how noisy the prop is! That's another thing to put on the to-do list!
With regards to your new dipstick, why not ask your guru to measure a dipstick in an engine he has access to. That will make sure your new dipstick is reading the correct level. Other than that keep up the videos. We are still rooting for you to sort the boat out and really enjoy some sailing. Good Luck.
Great episode. Real life, sometimes things go well other times not so well. You need to keep your props clean & polished else you will lose a knot of speed real quick with a dirty prop. use a fine grade sandpaper to polish them & it will expose the copper & they wont get fouled so fast. you can also put lanolin on them (get Yoshi to round you up a sheep so you can harvest the lanolin from it). Where is our Wildlings song this week?
@@BreezyRider66 I am a commercial fisherman, been doing that for 45 years, I think I have learnt a little about props in that time. Have you ever had pure sheep's lanolin on your hands & then tried to clean it off? If you really want it to stick well to the prop heat it up before you put the lanolin on it. I was presuming the props are made of bronze which is an alloy of copper & tin both work as an antifoul. if they are aluminium, Well I guess you are somewhat correct, However you will never see a dull prop on any racing boat it will be super smooth & gleaming shiny!
Hey, maybe all those people anchored in that beautiful bay know something about the weather??? Try looking at an actual radar picture and tides to work out the best way to go... predicted forecasts are 99% wrong and 100% guaranteed to be horrible sailing if you subscribe to them. You're both smart and diy weather is what is missing along with enough sleep in the planning. Dolmas are one of my favorite greek foods and much of it is quite cheap and nonperishable making great cruising cuisine, you are in a Foodie's Paradise... yum, yum!
Have a look at the slapping noise when you are sailing, it might give you some more ideas as too what is wrong. Still its a nice chance to catch a few more fish. 🐟in the baron oceans. Fault free boat what would we do with that! nothing to tell you how to fix a fault we cant see or hear 😱 🤣🤣 great video 👍👍
Best cure for Sea Sickness - Live on a farm in North Dakota. Maybe you could try the "remedies" for sale or get sponsored by them and let the rest of us landlubbers know if they work or not. Eating a large bowl of custard before you set sail helps. Especially when you start puking as it lubricates the diced carrots and potato crisps on the way up.
You got that right about boat yoga eh.Remmber when you were cutting out the tanks,yikes..I build Blackbird boats in 🇨🇦 Canada eh!Question, are your props turned by hydraulic motors?That's cool 😎 hang in there....your the best🇨🇦🇨🇦🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🏁🏁🏁🏁🥥🎙
Thanks for taking me with you guys! Peace and love Rolfie
We have been watching your videos for a year and really like the true value and honesty.
From the West Coast of USA 🇺🇸
Keep sailing.
Nadiyana saves the day ~11:40 always see's the bright side of things!
A good skippers decision to turn back. No room for machismo on a boat. Well done you two!
My guess is the noise is coming from the coupling between the motor and the shaft. Underway with the motor running take a look at the coupling to see if there's a run out condition. You should be able to see with your eye if there is a wobble between the shaft and the motor. It would make sense that if the bottom bolt on the motor was loose it would cause a misalignment between the shaft and motor coupling. Your channel is great fun to watch.
Watching you guys is a highlight of my week. Stay strong and positive. Nadiyana is the key!
It's still better than 40hrs a week Ina factory. You are literally free to go where the wind blows, even if it's not blowing where you think you want to go, you always end up somewhere interesting. Relax a little and go with the flow. Good Luck and may the wind be ever in your sails!
Agreed with you on that. Few people these days would even know what 40 hours on a factory floor is like they are so entitled.
Stay strong and good spirited, no doubt it can and will be tough from time to time but, nothing is ever easy and you are doing what you love to do.... stay safe and well to you both and Yoshi!
Hi Mark, from the pictures in your video, it appears that you have grease caps fitted on your stern glands, the trick I was taught was that the grease should be thick -used some old fashion water pump grease and give each grease cap a half turn when you have finished with engines ro presureise the grease and take up the slack so water ingress to a minimum. for ease of access fitted a remote greaser with connecting tube, the greaser had a screw thread so you still gave it half a turn.
have you got (can you, beg, borrow or - - - ) a dial test indicator which can be positioned on an arm to measure the runout/play or bow in your shaft. that would give uou an accurate assessment of what is happening when you turn the shaft over by hand.
Great suggestion that would be the proper way to diagnose if it is a problem with the shat or perhaps the coupling and for that matter Mark could check the axial alignment of the motor as well by setting up the indicator on the back side of the hydraulic motor to see if it is moving in the mounting position as he suspended a loose lower bolt.
Don't let the little stuff get to you. Re-check the weather just before pulling up your anchor. If conditions are not favorable then sit tight. You guys are doing a great job. Yoshi thinks you are doing fabulous. So cheer up and no more worries. ♡ Never let plans make you go out in unfavorable conditions. There is always tomorrow. : )
I enjoy and appreciate your videos and have watched them all from the outset. Have also owned 5 boats over my time - all of them with a few years of age to them - and have experienced many of the ups and downs you are having. Unlike some postings I think you have been very sensible and admire your resourcefulness and desire to learn. It is depressing when you get a run of problems but work methodically and don’t worry about fixing everything overnight. The joys of some good days will quickly reward you and remind you why you are doing it! Best wishes, Andrew
Hi Mark, The object in the ground you found is a observation post and machinegun post covering the Harbor, great video, stay safe keep well to you both and Yoshi!
I'm starting to see that Mark is a glass half empty kind of guy (which is healthy) and Nardiana is a glass half full kind of gal (which is also healthy); your turnaround destination was great and enjoyable to watch. Meant to be I say so enjoy more your semi planned and semi unexpected mystery adventures xx Always look forward to watching
Hope y'all get all of the demons exercised, we are rooting for you.
😂😂😂
Gremlins.. 😉 Yoshi size..
Exorcised
Great show again. Many aviation engines use mineral oil for breaking in. After that we switch to a regular ash less dispersant oil. Im glad see that you’re using the recommended oil. Have a safe trip you two
Best of luck with the crossing, hopefully the motor issus is nothing too serious
Did you eat the dog 🐶? Oops, there he is. My worry’s are over!
Sometimes if you want to get somewhere, you just have to motor! Keep happy and enjoy where you ended up. He says having just motored singled handed for 85 miles, a 16 hour trip!
Get plenty of good rest before making those trips so when things like bad weather reports crop up you won't feel so exhausted and perhaps make a bad decision. Good luck to you two.
The never give up nor give in... Your both such brilliant ppl.. Yoshi is doing so much better as a boat doggo.. thanks for sharing your lives with us grateful ✌🏼💗😊❣️
You three stay strong, you three have gone extremely far it's always dark before dawn. Stay strong, and smile as often as you can, and i am thankful for your uploading your adventures!!!
and remember; it's not miles under the keel, it's smiles on the deck!
Boat life is full of challenges but keep the faith. Look what you've already done !! Amazing !
well, I think I've done it...I found another 35 Cherokee I've committed to buy...I didn't plan on this kind of boat, to be honest, had been looking at prouts and Geminis here, but found a beautiful example of a one of these. Your videos gave me some confidence in this one i'm buying because I feel like having see you guys sail and work out some kinks, I've been doing it with you, on the same boat no less! I hope to be able to offer advice (and maybe get a little here and there) as we sail our sister ships!
Life on a sailboat is all about high highs, and low lows. There really is no flatlining. And there is no thing as a perfectly working boat.
But you do have to learn about how to control anxieties, stress, doubts, worries, odd sounds, odd smells...haha, life in paradise😁
Mark Looked a bit stressed...
Listen to your wife Mark 😉😁
I agree Mark Cutlass rubber shaft bearings need to be wet or they get chewed out when the shaft rotates.
You guys are doing really well.
Don't feel bad about turning back. You didn''t feel comfortable so you made the right decision. Happy Paul McCartney's birthday!
Soooo nice to see a beautiful couple living thre dream. Looks like the boat is still giving you the "shaft" though.
Getting shafted left, right and centre
You are correct about the engine oil, only mineral oils. These are really good basic oils used in heavy working machines, ships etc. If the oil gets black early, refresh with half amount half way, then change all oil when time is up.
Synthetic oils are good for high power applications - modern cars, planning boats and cold climate. Doesnt do any good in a cruising sailboat, only adding cost and destroying seals.
Thanks for posting and sharing. I hope you enjoy the time with your friend.
Another enjoyable update of your adventure together. Friday evenings would not be the same without them. So nice to see sweet little Yoshi, once a stray landlubber, roaming around a boat yard looking for somebody to befriend him. Just look at him now, a fully fledged sea-dog. Stay safe guys.
Keep on chugging away ! You show determination. Thank you !
I think your cat is awesome. Just think of it as, you bought a $300,000 usd cat for almost nothing down and monthly payments whenever you can afford to make them. I think you guys are miles ahead of others with large boat payments and even they have costly repairs that have to be made. The two of you are wonderfully made for each other and you get to experience this grand adventure together. The regular challenges you face are a small price to pay such privileges' that many only dream about.
AHOY ! I think your Merc is becoming part of the family.... GT's Beta was ! It looks like a super life aboard Minke ! Thanks for another episode.
Dear Nadiyana and Mark,
This time we did hear the tapping sound you were talking about veery well but Dick Isn’t sure that it was caused by the engine. You also hear the same sound when the connecting rod to the propeller has run out of the bearings. Maybe it’s wise to check this first before you start the search process with the engine. When an overhaul is properly done it can’t be the engine. We wish you both lots of wisdom in relation to this and wish you as well as your dear family all the happiness of the world plus we send you ❤️ from the Netherlands.
Best regards,
Willeke and Dick de Graaff
I only use mineral oil in all my engines that range from 1996 and older. Always exhibit longevity.
I think you did good heading back. After all, why do you have to get there on a schedule. Live:) and love:) I love you guys, keep up the good work and thank you for sharing your life.
@23:46 on the other side of the oil fill, that vibrating fuel line holder will eventually rub through the metal line. You can see where it already has the paint wore off. I'd either put some rubber padding inside it, or take it off completely.
Mineral oil for the OM636 is correct! It is not the viscosity, but the size of the chain molecules. Synthetic oil has much shorter chain molecules, and can escape through "smaller cracks" so to speak.
Don't overthink things guys, you are doing great and there will be better winds and fair sailing another day. Stay safe. Andy UK
All 'Grist to the Mill' ar kid/s! I do like the way you are both visibly slowing down and relaxing into the daily stress of 'old boat life's' knocks, knackered and leaks though! When you just don't fancy it... why bother? Your casual intimacy with your reconditioned 'Frau' is impressive too Mark ... whipping off her top cover and bathing her in mineral oil was a seasoned pro at work! Crack on guys!
Regarding knocking sounds on port side:
The pic at 1:38 is a good place to start.
The flanged coupling between hydraulic drive and propeller shaft is not very tolerant of any misalignment between the two shafts ( radial, angular or axial). You will probably be better able to observe or hear the offending vibration or knocking while the propeller is engaged at some nominal speed. Most likely the knocking frequency is closely related to shaft rpm. …so will be difficult to observe if just spinning by hand.
Places most suspect would include propeller shaft keyway, coupling flange bolts , mounting flange for hydraulic drive or shaft bearing in hydraulic drive. ***Be very careful of where you put your fingers or tools while examining a spinning shaft ****. It’s dark and cramped and not very forgiving when under way.
The small plywood mounting surface is probably serving the function of a flexible mount to deal with any potential misalignment (.not good) …. But, If that’s true , then vibration, water intrusion from bilge and time will exacerbate the problem .
The shaft seal ( stuffing box) could see some xtra wear from too much vibration, but not a likely cause of the problem.
A bent propeller shaft could cause similar vibration and alignment “issues” . But you kids would likely have experienced some event recently to make you suspicious.
Play in the cutlass bearing ( which is relatively far away at the propeller end) can contribute, but save that experiment until you better isolate the problem.
If your diagnostics lead you to misalignment issues…The mating flanges of the shaft coupling may serve as a convenient datum to quantify misalignment or runout between the two shafts. Separate the two a nominal amount and measure the resulting gaps. The relative amount you need to tighten each bolt to secure the flange will tell you a lot.
Best of luck.
…a small price to pay for living in paradise.
regards,
-bill
Tapping could be the bearing in the hydraulic motor. Use a stethoscope (a screwdriver works) and listen for the origin. At any rate it doesn’t sound like a huge issue
I agree with ajax1137 on both counts. Using mineral or good old dinosaur oil on older engines is the way to go. Natural oil has all the vitamins (particulates) that keep them happy.
Pollença is amazing - I've been on so many lovely family holidays there - be sure to visit Pollença town as well as Porto Pollença. Menorca, I've only visited recently, but I fell in love with the place. Go visit the fish market in Mahon, it's fantastic! x
You did ok, sorry you didn't make it to Menorca from Mallorca. But, I got a good look at WW2 hidden weapon [probably machine gun] pit. It was a nic bay, I'm also guessing theres another pit on the other side for a crossfire. Nice job though, theres always stuff to do. Thanks m8s, you and yours stay safe asnd well.
yea Mark hes right! mineral oil in all older engines , they need it.
Get a run out guage with a magnetic base and check both out put propeller shafts. On the inside of the boat. This way you will know what you are dealing with., if there is a problem. Then check factory spec for clearance.
A fantastic video. really entertaining. Thank you!
Im in Menorca, wind breeze starts normaly around 1000 and loose 1830... These coming days very very low winds... Turning bit... Mahon from easterly. Its the time with less winds during the year.
Menorca east Ciutadela will be full packed.. The most famoust Fiesta, San Juan will be 23-24 but starting Sunday... From Mainland and Mallorca thousands and thousands will celebrste this crazy horsefiesta. San Joan Ciutadela.. Quiet will be more to the east to the island.. Best beaches and most relaxing beautyful island is Menorca.. In Mahon we are for you for any Problem... And even if you hv probs at the south.. Relax
If you get yourself a football nozzle for a 12V tyre inflator, you could deflate the fenders and use less storage space.
Good job Mark. Don't worry so much about the noise coming from the engine. Maybe if you could just reduce the engine RPM's a little it would also reduce the viberations from the prop shafts. Just a suggestion. Sail on.
Guys you could be getting hammered in WoT F7 conditions in the Irish Sea and thinking "this is it, it's all over".....oh no sorry that's me....damn forecasts. 😉
The thing about old engines doesn't apply to you you have all new gaskets and seals. The life comparison between mineral oil and synthetic oil engines is a telling reason synthetic is significantly extended life with fewer lubricant related failures and fewer oil changes.
As a diesel mechanic with a half century of experience I'd say it's safe to use synthetic in a fresh rebuilt motor.
Yoshi agrees with me.
See when I was young and there was only mobile 1 synthetic and a English synthetic the only companies using it were in extreme north Alaska they used it on the. Alaska pipeline. Synthetic has a much lower gel point than synthetic. Engines start easier in extreme cold than mineral oil engines.
Other than that. The long life of modern engines is really the best argument for synthetic oil.
In the old days if a driver got 500,000 miles on a Cummins engine one of the longer life engines . Cummins made a big deal out of it they'd fly the driver and his wife back to the Cummins plant for a tour and they'd present the driver with a plaque for the dash of his truck.
That's because it was a extreme rarity to get 500,000 miles on a engine .
A modern diesel that doesn't get a million miles on it had a bad driver . Today a million miles is expected.
The diesels were redesigned . But I believe the biggest change was switching to synthetic oils.
I think that you may find that the machining of the piston cylinder bores have something to do with it. Older classics have deliberately( actually left over from steam days) very fine (microscopic) grouves in the bore that holds the mineral oil.This is better for cold starts as the oil is retained in the bore longer & avoids dry cold starting one gets from modern oils. The synthetic is designed for modern bores with more accurately machined smoother bores. It does not stick to the sides of the bore in the same way as the shear action in the oil is different. Modern bores are more "polished" but still have those grooves but less so. Mineral oil deals with sludge differently due to the different detergents.Wildings engine is a low power engine so benefits from an oil designed for that type.
I think that you may not understand the difference between a marine auxilliary engine & a vehicle engine. A marine one will never last anything like your road engine simply because of the environment of salt along with the short use from entry & departure from port. My engine has done 5000 hours & the dealer expressed surprise saying that he has Volvo pentas changed after 1500 hours simply due to corrosion & failure to get warm etc . They get full of salt in the supplementary cooling . The oil sits in the engine & the acid in the oil causes corrosion when left.. The rev changes causes oil surge- never happens in a slow reving constant running marine engine that often never runs at full throttle load for long which a diesel really needs to do. Lots of reasons but no way can one expect the life a vehicle engine
@@grahamlongley8298 you may not understand synthetic creates a better barrier and promotes longer bearing life. My statement about engine longevity was pointing out the doubling life expectancy of diesels in a few short years coincidentally synthetic oil came into widespread use during that period also
@@timerickson7056 Double the engine life did not happen at the same time synthetic oil became available. you have just pointed out that it has been around for years. Longer life came about due to better manufacturing technique since then. If you feel modern synthetics are better, explain why Castrol Penrith Duckhams etalia still make mineral oil specifically for older classic vehicles & why they state that some modern synthetics should NOT be used on old classics.
@@grahamlongley8298 no I said it happened during the same period that synthetic oil gained widely used
I like keeping the fenders out when in busy anchorages- might look trampy, but several times it’s kept us from harm when other boats (once ours) have dragged…love you two!
After all your patience, conviction, dedication you two are a force which quite frankly I'm impressed 🙏🥰
Did Cat "Minke" have to be so annoying after all you TLC you've given!
Great, making it work. Great team, take care& good health.
Just keep pushing on and don't even think about past errors all that does is put negative thoughts in your heads instead just focus on the next immediate step. Each task completed brings you closer to your goals.
👍👌👏 Yes, definitely! Mineral oil 20W 50 or even SAE 30 is the way to go for an old (Diesel) engine. In winter time a bit thinner 15W 40 is possible.
If you turn the bottle hole to where it's on top the oil will pour better !
ok i heard enough about the shaft what must be done is to prove that the motor coupling is not worn due to miss alignment any miss alignment will cause a number of issues one is the couplings will wear as it rotates round 360deg over time it will get worce and could shear the prop shaft , the couplings may be keywayed and the key is worn and loose on shaft. the motor coupling may be splined and again through miss alignment be worn this coupling will be supported by a bearing and seal both could be worn excessively to find out this the motor needs to be removed from the housing at this point its worth remembering it has been fitted with special bolts through the housing these will come loose due to the vibration of the prop even if it is just a few thou of inch out lose bolting will do this . so before you pull the boat out of the water you need to prove the motor and couplings are in good order and aligned correctly with a feeler blade this can be done flange to flange. 2 thou top botton and sides the stright edge is to see if the couplings are the same at each point north south east west.. it could be a small square bar . so you say a friend at the end i hope hes done this type of engineering ,I have on bigger props than yours 25ton and lifebouts and all the sea cats you have seen on the mersey . tom . hope it goes well. good luck.
There's way to many things to go wrong with this boat if neglected much longer... hydraulic systems are hell on old boats, tractors etc...
Keep going your get there
Really enjoying your videos! You two are cute together. (From West Hollywood California USA 🇺🇸)
You are right to be using 100% conventional oil. You had me confused calling it Mineral oil (I’ve been out of uk for too long in usa). Nobody uses that term over here . I was thinking you were talking about non-detergent oil used in machinery or possibly that strange Castro’s R racing oil.
Synthetic oils would be completely wrong for this and most marine engines that often sit for weeks unused. Synthetics are very clever in the way that they don’t break down and are super slippery to get maximum fuel economy but they also drain away from surfaces when the engine is not running over time ,so when you start the engine you’re in a low lubrication situation that is made worse by synthetic oils. And remember starting an engine is the worst thing you can do to it, it’s went all the wear occurs.
FYI do not disassemble the hydraulic motors that should only ever be done in a very clean environment by somebody who knows what they are doing.
Cheers Warren
Yes, He's stressing!!!
Ey, cheeky
The fault-free boat is like nuclear fusion: always a decade away.
Engine dropping revs can sometimes be just the throttle slipping. Rest assured, there are no fault free boats.
There are fault free boats, imaginary ones 🤣they're perfect in our imaginations until they become real then, the faults start to show.
Hey!! See the way Nadia turned her hand to undo the cap using thumb and forefinger? She probably doesn't realise it, likewise a great many people watching this, but if the forefinger points in the direction (so ideal for left handers when undoing) of travel then the fingers act like a pipe wrench and lock on to the cap. A lifetime observing people can teach you all kinds of stuff! Try it.
That oil is for diesel engines, it has zinc, plus other natural minerals, that diesels, and older gas motors need.
My lake boat (Catalina 25) is on a mooring ball, I use the same technique for cleaning. I am number two at the club for a slip, hopefully I will get a slip next month. Once on the slip I will paint the top deck and start fixing up the cabin.
What you found on the beach was an old machine gunners nest. ... As for your sail ... Any way the wind blows baby ... 🤘😁🤘⛵❤️❤️❤️
I’m sure you know this but it didn’t come across in the video, but the cutlass bearing is normally separate from the shaft seal. Depending on a shaft seal some there is a nibble where you put grease in which will reduce the water ingress through the seal. Good luck finding a solution.
Cheer up mark your depressing me you have a lovely wife and life stop worrying so much thing always work out for you and the lovely Nadiana
You guys are making great progress, I see you've cleaned the props, did it make any difference to the shaft vibrations? One big barnacle on the prop can make it behave badly.
I would never take the rocker cover off to fill the oil, too concerned with creating another leak, I've always found that if there is oil on the gasket when refitting more oil will find its way out.
Wipe both surfaces clean then apply grease or non hardening gasket cement. Find a suitable plastic funnel to use in the filler, keep in wrapped in a clean rag when not in use. Fair winds!
Would it be safe to put a couple of coats of car wax/polish/sealant on the solar panels? Water would then bead off easily with rain or a hose. Make sure they have a few degrees of slope on them.
I put rain x on 1/2 my car window. On normal mornings that side would be covered in dew drops while the other side was dry. I’ll never use it again. Probably a bad idea to put it on the panels.
Definitely a good idea wax or like the other comets RainX works great on my land based solar panels.
It's boat yoga that you describe. Holding unusual difficult positions for periods of time. Boat yoga.
Bedankt
Thanks
I get sea sick going in the bath 😂
Looks like some good food
Ha. Those stuffed vine leaves make a great boat cupboard Lidl find. Avoid the Greek 'style' au engines in oil...a right soggy mess. I converted to many tinned foods years ago. Not necessarily nicer..but always an adventure!
Au engines ! Lol. Aubergines !
Hello Mark and you're beautiful wife hope you get all of that figured out that way you can spend more time sailing and less time repairing. By the way I like your shirt I used to wear shirts like that all the time tropical shirts are pretty cool to wear not so hot in the summer. Anyways thank you for the update stay safe I love you and God bless
@calvin the definition of cruising is "fixing boats in exotic locations" lol!
@@sailingmoonshadow3169 oh okay I'll accept that hahaha
that was a nice bunker you found. Surprised nobody is living in it
I might suggest that the noise encountered when you are sailing is the propeller rotating.
Or an unbalanced prop. I changed to electric propulsion this year and without the noise of the diesel, I can now hear how noisy the prop is! That's another thing to put on the to-do list!
Thanks for the video guys 👊👊👍👍
Nice one!
If you're going to Sardinia, try and make your way to Simius. There are some fabulous beaches around there.
With regards to your new dipstick, why not ask your guru to measure a dipstick in an engine he has access to. That will make sure your new dipstick is reading the correct level. Other than that keep up the videos. We are still rooting for you to sort the boat out and really enjoy some sailing. Good Luck.
A shame you didn't make it to Port de Pollenca - it's a gorgeous spot
Scrubbing the Decks Mark ... Sea water first then if you can spare it rinse the windows and panels with fresh water..
Great episode. Real life, sometimes things go well other times not so well. You need to keep your props clean & polished else you will lose a knot of speed real quick with a dirty prop. use a fine grade sandpaper to polish them & it will expose the copper & they wont get fouled so fast. you can also put lanolin on them (get Yoshi to round you up a sheep so you can harvest the lanolin from it). Where is our Wildlings song this week?
The props weren't bad certainly would not lose a knot, they're not made of copper, lanolin would be off after a few minutes of running...
@@BreezyRider66 I am a commercial fisherman, been doing that for 45 years, I think I have learnt a little about props in that time. Have you ever had pure sheep's lanolin on your hands & then tried to clean it off? If you really want it to stick well to the prop heat it up before you put the lanolin on it. I was presuming the props are made of bronze which is an alloy of copper & tin both work as an antifoul. if they are aluminium, Well I guess you are somewhat correct, However you will never see a dull prop on any racing boat it will be super smooth & gleaming shiny!
YMT+1 is the Yoshi clock which keeps food and fun on schedule
The revs are probably just a tiny air leak in the fuel system. You'll find it.
Yeah, these things are usually very simple!
@@WildlingSailing... and Good Lord, Nadiyana and those shorts! 😅
Hey, maybe all those people anchored in that beautiful bay know something about the weather???
Try looking at an actual radar picture and tides to work out the best way to go... predicted forecasts are 99% wrong and 100% guaranteed to be horrible sailing if you subscribe to them. You're both smart and diy weather is what is missing along with enough sleep in the planning.
Dolmas are one of my favorite greek foods and much of it is quite cheap and nonperishable making great cruising cuisine, you are in a Foodie's Paradise... yum, yum!
Beautiful beach you guys found. Hope you can figure out the engine/ hydraulic motor sound. Hilarious how Yoshi slept throughout the cruise.
Guys Aldi UK have outdoors stuff including a thermal sleeping bag suit and a 20L Solar shower bag.
Get those bloody sea bands they work,
Have a look at the slapping noise when you are sailing, it might give you some more ideas as too what is wrong. Still its a nice chance to catch a few more fish. 🐟in the baron oceans. Fault free boat what would we do with that! nothing to tell you how to fix a fault we cant see or hear 😱 🤣🤣 great video 👍👍
Best cure for Sea Sickness - Live on a farm in North Dakota.
Maybe you could try the "remedies" for sale or get sponsored by them and let the rest of us landlubbers know if they work or not. Eating a large bowl of custard before you set sail helps. Especially when you start puking as it lubricates the diced carrots and potato crisps on the way up.
You got that right about boat yoga eh.Remmber when you were cutting out the tanks,yikes..I build Blackbird boats in 🇨🇦 Canada eh!Question, are your props turned by hydraulic motors?That's cool 😎 hang in there....your the best🇨🇦🇨🇦🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🏁🏁🏁🏁🥥🎙
If you guys ever have an uneventful passage anywhere we will start to worry 😂 keep smiling and facing life head first 😁