I had great hopes for it, but now that you can just "cheat" the win in Mak'gora (in the lore, it is a 1v1 honor duel, but in the game, both minis and spells can interfere) it does not look important.
Actually i find it powerfull to make him stong vs dragón tower or resistence for ever in defense is more under tower talent atack or defense with The help of execute and yeah but diplomacy has lots of shenenigans like steal harvest golem, malfurion, tyrion or sylvanass or a funny one a Banshee. fun leader fun talents fun gameplay and all talents has use @@OldGuardian
Before release, I thought Deathless Rage would be good because I thought Mak'gora was going to be 1v1 - because that is how it is in Warcraft lore! But now that you can just deal damage to the Mak'gora target with anything, it is much weaker.
2:42 so have an example here orgrim Challenges the banshee to mak’gora. Wins the mak’gora. I have the stealing talent. Orgrim actually steals the banshee ehe 😅… (looking euphoric) Yea! that… That happened. (looking disillusioned as Orgrim taken over to the dark side) 😂 perfect expressions ❤ funny as well Cheers for sharing this
Seem like armored/resistant effects are removed when doing mak'gora and it does not reaply, tried with Fae and Shaman and it seemed he dropped it after finishing the MakGo. Think may be an bug perhaps
@@OldGuardian huh, that's intresting, so like an Egg for Whelps scenario then. thx did not know he changed thought was he just got "reseted" after the battle with more buffs
Yes, Diplomacy effect is a permanent damage-over-time effect. Note that the bigger the mini you possess, the more damage it takes per second (because it is the same percentage of its health), so no healer can keep something like a Molten Giant alive.
f2p here 🙃 I got Malf to epic with 2x rom, Anub to rare in last day of the event - no rom left, but got Orgrim to rare just in few hours of the event 😅
Seems like a random reason to decrease the time period. Also a random comment to make on a video about Doomhammer. Poor guy is desperate for more raids lol
OG, I think there's some important text you didn't mention that may make Deathless Rage ideal for something. Under the Mak'gora details the last sentence "gains more power the duel was" This leads me to belive that perhaps winning at 1 hp from Deathless Rage ensures the highest possible buffed Ogrim.
Thank you kindly. I've been specifically holding off on purchasing any talents on him till I heard from the expert.
Thanks for working on the holiday to bring us this.
Wow, thank goodness I held off. I have deathless on the grid. It looked good.
I had great hopes for it, but now that you can just "cheat" the win in Mak'gora (in the lore, it is a 1v1 honor duel, but in the game, both minis and spells can interfere) it does not look important.
Actually i find it powerfull to make him stong vs dragón tower or resistence for ever in defense is more under tower talent atack or defense with The help of execute and yeah but diplomacy has lots of shenenigans like steal harvest golem, malfurion, tyrion or sylvanass or a funny one a Banshee. fun leader fun talents fun gameplay and all talents has use @@OldGuardian
Hello Old Guardian, thanks for your work. My Wife and me wish you a merry christmas 🎄
Happy Christmas! Great Guide as always. Thank you.
Thanks for the info!
It always amazes me how I ALWAYS manage to pick the worst talent first thinking "I can't be wrong this time!" 😂
Before release, I thought Deathless Rage would be good because I thought Mak'gora was going to be 1v1 - because that is how it is in Warcraft lore! But now that you can just deal damage to the Mak'gora target with anything, it is much weaker.
Best Christmas gift 🫶
Thanks for the early breakdown explainer 👍
2:42 so have an example here orgrim Challenges the banshee to mak’gora.
Wins the mak’gora.
I have the stealing talent.
Orgrim actually steals the banshee ehe 😅… (looking euphoric)
Yea! that… That happened. (looking disillusioned as Orgrim taken over to the dark side) 😂 perfect expressions ❤ funny as well
Cheers for sharing this
I was in a hurry so I could not get many takes: on my non-recording initial test he cleared the whole lane. Either way, great against Banshee.
@ I don’t think you need much takes… that looks natural and make me smile 😊
Does Goblin Sapper deal double damage with Orgrim’s leader ability???
no
great, just bought deathless because a guild mate said its good. he's rare, so i can get the other one i suppose lol
Seem like armored/resistant effects are removed when doing mak'gora and it does not reaply, tried with Fae and Shaman and it seemed he dropped it after finishing the MakGo. Think may be an bug perhaps
He becomes a new mini after winning so old effects are gone.
@@OldGuardian huh, that's intresting, so like an Egg for Whelps scenario then. thx did not know he changed thought was he just got "reseted" after the battle with more buffs
I was fearful poison damage would bypass “Deathless Rage” talent
How does channeled damage from witchdoctor work with double damage trait?
dAMN BOY, he is fast
Can you extend the life of Diplomacy victims with a healer? Will a Shaman extend the unit's life?
Yes, Diplomacy effect is a permanent damage-over-time effect. Note that the bigger the mini you possess, the more damage it takes per second (because it is the same percentage of its health), so no healer can keep something like a Molten Giant alive.
Rally the clan good for raids I think
Does double damage trait work with goblin sappers?
no
f2p here 🙃 I got Malf to epic with 2x rom, Anub to rare in last day of the event - no rom left, but got Orgrim to rare just in few hours of the event 😅
gracias
If you give him armor through Shaman, he loses it once the Mak'Gora ends
Yes, he becomes a different mini after Mak'gora.
@OldGuardian that's ridiculous
Since blizzard made the open queue, shouldn't they decrease the time period between MC& other sieges ?!
Seems like a random reason to decrease the time period. Also a random comment to make on a video about Doomhammer. Poor guy is desperate for more raids lol
OG, I think there's some important text you didn't mention that may make Deathless Rage ideal for something.
Under the Mak'gora details the last sentence "gains more power the duel was" This leads me to belive that perhaps winning at 1 hp from Deathless Rage ensures the highest possible buffed Ogrim.
*The closer the duel
Orgrim gets more damage (210 baseline) for winning at below 67% (230) and below 33% health (250), but that's it.
@@OldGuardian thanks! Good to have the actual numbers.