If you look to the right inside the transfer box. There’s a empty micro switch. That’s used for shutting a device of while it’s in generator mode. Like your pool pump. The single wires that control s the pool pump would go there. Didn’t know if you knew that. Really good share!! Larry
Very extremely informative! When We purchased our house, the electric bill was $500.00 a month! I trashed the electric "Hot water heater", which HEATS the HOT water 20-30 times a day weather you use it or not. An "On demand" GAS (LP)water heater dropped our electric bill $200.00 a month. Next was double insulated windows a little at a time. Next was GAS heat. Goodman makes a 90 percent 80,000 BTU unit with a D.C. Fan that uses a fraction of the cost as well as the 5 ton coil with a 4 ton compressor, the extra large coil has larger cooling surface. Our electric bill stays around $90-120 a month and we are VERY comfortable. Also KVAR makes a surge protector with 2 massive size capacitors for surge protection, as well as saving money on electric. EVERY time you start an appliance, it causes a surge and the electric company gets extra money for that. If the capacitor is already charged, there is NO surge, and you save MORE money.
Lloyd Morrison II good assessment Lloyd! Our bill is about 500 in the winter months and 250 ish throughout the summer. Only reason I didn’t go with LP heat was because it seems to flocculate far more than power. The shortage a few years back put everyone at odds not knowing if they were going to be able to afford propane or not. I just recently got an upgraded heat pump and furnace and already have 100 a month savings on the bill, seen a decrease in the winter last year also by about 200 bones a month. I am considering the in demand water with my propane, but haven’t pulled the trigger yet. What tankless system did you go with? How many square fixtures is it supplying?
I'm very impressed, especially with the whole house surge protection. Very good decision on your behalf. The last generator I did a few weeks ago required a 200 amp service upgrade and we installed a Cutler Hammer 40-circuit panel with the built in surge protection. Came out looking really sharp and serves a great, great purpose. Remember, anything with a microprocessor is subject to surge and a few hundred dollars versus several thousands of dollars, well, it's worth it to have. Very nice gas piping too. I see it installed incorrectly with the flexible line often.
+electricalron I watch alot of Mike Holmes shows and have learned a great deal from that gentleman. His picture is on the box of the Eaton Surge Protectors as he endorses it. I used to have the battery backups on all my TV’s but I noticed when running generator power they kept switching back and forth from battery and generator power, and that make them drain quickly and then shut off, therefore the stuff that was plugged into it, were no longer powered. I investigated it a bit further and determined that I had to get specific UPS compatible with generator power or dirty power if you will. Then I’ve always had the surge protectors on all my other tv’s and electronics. Gas work was actually a breeze. Very easy to do. What I love about my local code authority, they will let you, as the homeowner do any work you want. Some city’s require you to have someone licensed in that specific field of work to complete the work.
Dan, that is the general rule for most states that you can do your own work at your house without a license contractor. Only if you own a multi-family dwelling or a commercial space would you be required to have a licensed plumber/ electrician. Believe it or not, some states don't even have a licensing requirement.
+electricalron Since you have both learned so much from Mr Holmes , Then WHY in Canada do they put there Breaker Panels in Sideways ? I wonder that everytime I watch that show .. LOL ....
BigHeartedMan65 Hahahahahahah! That's Hilarious! Kinda of weird yes, but the reason as I identify it, is in section 240.33 of the 2011 NEC requires that enclosures containing overcurrent devices must be mounted in a vertical position unless this isn't practical. Circuit-breaker enclosures can be mounted horizontally if the circuit breaker is installed in accordance with 240.81. Section 240.81 specifies that where circuit breaker handles are operated vertically, the "up" position of the handle must be in the ON position. So, in effect, an enclosure that contains one row of circuit breakers can be mounted horizontally, but an enclosure that contains a panelboard with multiple circuit breakers on opposite sides of each other will have to be mounted vertically. But that is all somewhat disputable because they use CSA (Canadian Standards Association) in Canada and in USA we use NEC (National Electrical Code) standards. I don't believe Canada has their own panels made and to meet their standard it has be installed horizontally. The panel in my house is a Square D, Homeline, HOMC30UC, and the main breaker is switched left to right, Left on, right is off, in Canada it would have be installed "sideways" so the on position would be on top, and the off positon would be on the bottom, to be installed correctly according to their code requirements.
We just got a 22kw Genrac with a 330 tank also put in auto switches to control loads. It hooks into the main line coming to the house. Have it set up to run every other week on Wednesday. Put a foam pipe cover or cut a rubber engine water hose and cover that line its thicker.
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Well done! I’ve just ordered a generator and will install it myself under the guidance of an electrical contractor that’s also a Generac dealer. I’m getting the genpad but I think I’ll go ahead and do a slab for it to set on.
I had my 20kw Generac installed about 3 years ago. Boy, doe it work great! The company that put it in here in Houston is Wired Electric. They are an authorized Generac and other generator companies dealers. It took them two days to install it. When the power goes out within 10 seconds the house is back to running without any problem. My house is a shining beacon in a dark neighborhood. The city inspectors came out and checked the installation and said it was a first rate job and gave me the green OK tickets. Don't try to install one of these or any other generators by yourself. You need to have someone that has experience and not have a bootleg bother-in-law job.
Great video. Only wish you could have pointed to the wiring and explained what size of wire was used at each application. For instance what size wire did you use coming from the generator to the transfer switch and what size wire was used coming from the transfer switch to the main panel and what size wire was used from the meter to the transfer switch. Thank you.
Nice setup. I've heard the same thing about the regulator vent causing an explosion. Can't find any examples of that ever happening. My house has been here for 40 years with the AC next to the gas meter. There are also several other homes with it too. At one point the vent had a constant gas smell. Never had an issue with anything exploding. Natural gas is actually pretty hard to ignite. It usually happens indoors when it has been allowed to accumulate. I remember an episode of Mike Holms where they moved the gas meter for the same reason, probably cost $2000, what you did makes more sense and is way cheaper.
Very informative video, thank you. Have you ever run your generator for an extended period of time during an outage? About how many gallons per hour did the generator burn please?
Yea I’ve had 12 hour outage and the fuel needle on the propane tank moved a hair or 2, it really does not us much fuel. Depends on the load on it also. I attached the spec sheets that is for the units Generac sells now. There are 3 parts to this video and I have a couple other generator update videos you should check out the channel. Thanks for watching! www.generac.com/generaccorporate/media/library/content/all-products/generators/home-generators/guardian-series/16kw-7035/generac-home-generators-guardian-16kw-20kw-22kw_spec-sheet-2017.pdf
Great video but i believe hard starts actually are rougher on ac systems and shorten the life span. They are also considerably cheaper than soft starts.
I thought the rubber hose (the one covered in automotive wrap), needed to be mounted in a vertical fashion for movement reasons like earthquake? Horizontally mounted I thought it could push and pull and cause a problem say if the earth shifted and there was movement. Maybe even movement say someone ran into it with a big garden tractor and moved the generator over several inches. I would think a vertically mounted rubber hose would work better than horizontal ?
Page 24. #3 talks about the rubber flex line. Page 25 shows the recommended installation for the gas line. cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1151/7156/files/8-22install.pdf?3391522684100065444 The entire purpose of the flex line is to absorb vibration so their not leaks creates at the connection points. The newer style generators have a steel type flex section and not rubber. Supposedly it can be bent or rounded during installation and the rubber one cannot. The steel flex does not look as clean of an install either.
@@dan8220 I looked at the link you sent. It doesnt say to install horizontal or vertical, it just says dont flex it like shown in the photo they provide on page 24. Page 25 I dont see where they show the rubber hose at all.
@@thelpw2608 I did mine exactly how the picture shows, you are correct it only says to not bend the hose, but the illustration in the photos shows it running with the generator, check this website out. These folks are the professional installers and can give many reason why or why not for any question. Great group of folks. www.zillerstore.com
Thanks for the mention, Dan. Those generators aren't exactly lightweight, and you're right. The weight isn't evenly distributed. As it exercises itself, it gradually settles unevenly which messes up oil distribution and causes the unit to break down (expensive repair). It's good that the generator bolts directly to it for the same reason.
There was no reason to. That was for locking out the heat pump if the generator was reaching compasity but with a 22kw and 3 lock outs for other heavy items it was not necessary. I’d you had 2 air units or heat pumps it may be so they don’t both start at the same time.
@@dan8220 Ok cool. I didn't know if you needed a separate branch circuit dedicated for it like we do at the hospital generators for the charging system. That sounds great. Good job. I've watched a bunch of your videos. Our hospital I work at will soon be getting 2 - 2000 KW generators up and running. They have two 20000 gallon diesel tanks in the ground too. Big stuff. God bless 🙏
A few questions: What size is your propane tank? How much did it cost to fill it up and what's the shelf life of propane? I wouldn't want to pay $400 worth of propane for it to sit for years and possibly go bad.
My tank is 500 gallons but they fill it up to 80% which is 400 gallons. The cost to fill it up depends on the price per gallon of propane. That is why I bought my own tank, so I could get it filled from any propane company and not be locked down to the company you rent a tank from. I rented a tank for 2 years when I had my 14KW and they were charging $3.05 a gallon and everyone else was around $2.60 a gallon. When I bought the 500 gallon I paid $.98 cent a gallon. I have used propane that was 18 years old out of a 500 gallon tank that was on the property when I bought it. the sellers son said they haven't use that tank in at least 15-20 years. I thought it was empty, but when I pushed the ball valve in the rotten egg smell and the fsst, indeed pushed out propane. Ended up being about 150 gallons left in that tank. We took the propane out and filled BBQ grill bottles. Worked as good as the new one that we had filled before we knew we could get the gas out of the big tank. I've never head of propane going bad. You are more likely to have a tank problem before the propane ever goes bad.
1. If you actually listened to the video he states the size of the tank your first question. 2. You asked what the shelf life of propane is. Don't be lazy and expect someone to answer it for you. Go into Google and type it in and search for it. The fact that you asked those 2 questions show that you're ignorant. Hence.. the definition of ignorant "lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular" You Sir are this very definition. Thank you have a nice day.. :-)
Scott Arsenault Wow, I’m sure you’re the pride and joy in your household with your great knowledge and wisdom. You should be very proud. Oh wait, you already are.
Dan, how has your 22kw been holding up? I know you have had it awhile now and was just curious. Also have you lost power and needed to use it? I am approaching 1 year with mine soon. I've had ZERO issues.
Mr Glock23 Yea mine has been great. I’ve lost power a couple times due to transformers blowing so I lost power for 30 minutes about 3 times. No Major outage as of yet. Only a couple disappointments, 1 is the mobile link is a joke and 2 the milky oil.
#Space #Village 1 likes some of this stuff. The wirering but we see some problems with the Gen so we would love to see a low wind 5kw stacked to 20kw or 2 10kw with are upgerad and 100year bearings and make the so you can add on more as needed for 24Hr power thanks
I wish Generac would come out with a home WiFi interface so you could monitor your generator VIA the Computer or your smart phone. They do have a system which connects to cellular service. That may be good in a remote service area, but face it, that's just another expenditure we can live without. We all have wireless routers and WiFi that would extend to our back yards. I have e-mailed Generac and told their customer service about that but all they tell me is their "Mobile Link". I wish everyone would get in touch with Generac and push this feature and tell them to develop a WiFi connected system.
They are actually working on something that will be Wi-Fi enabled. I added the mobile link about 4 months ago and it is limited to the point that it just sends you status updates. You can't change anything or, get into your control panel through it. Kinda of generic but lets you know if it needs any attention.
I again talked to Generac Customer support and they told me they were working on an app for smart phones or a program for your home computer to see just what your generator is doing. That is why I posted on so many TH-cam sites so people could call them or e-mail them and build a fire under them. I bet the people in the North East that are without power are having their generators run like crazy. Now waiting for the WiFi upgrade.
Look at Deep Sea Electrons low cost and works on anything.... Also you should look at using the A/C load shedding for your A/C units if you go to an overload it will shed the A/C unit based on Frequency nice feature most do not know about...
I got a new 11 KW replacement generator. My present transfer switch has no T 1 wire hook up. how could I connect the battery charging wire to the transfer switch?
Manufacturer got to next size breaker. Like a service used 2 alu or 4 copper wire go to 100 amp but from a main panel to a sub panel that #2 is the breaker is for a 90 amp breaker.
David Petrusewicz what part of the video are you looking at? The installers put in the wires and the local code enforcement inspected it per the permit, if it were incorrect it would not have passed the inspection.
2010Basepay2010 Not sure how to attach a picture here but the T1 goes to the T1 terminal in the generator. You can check these guys out and the can help you troubleshoot and possibly resolve. The are all Generac installers. Check out there forums. www.zillerstore.com
I’m amazed how much people will spend to not go without electricity. I live where there are hurricanes and reliable power systems has a 5-6 month backlog of work. On average, it cost 25-30k here for a 17 to 22k system.
5k just for the electrician to run the wires and set it all up. They have to bury the tanks because it’s a neighborhood. In some communities with all the setbacks and codes that means under the driveway. They pull up the pavers and sink it and replace them. It’s out of my price range.
Yes, Hoa but no gas. We either have to bury a tank or run gas. I have a gasoline 15k and a propane 15k someone gave me for free. I only have 6 small tanks for now but it’s better than nothing. We lost power in 2005 for 13 days and then 9 days after multiple storms came through. Code here is over 125 gal. of propane and you have to be 10’ from the property line and all openings. We have zero lot line and have very little options. I could buy a couple of 120 gal. Tanks and tie them together. I could also buy a 250 gallon tank and keep it at my friends shop. If we have a storm go and load it on a trailer. The downside is those tanks are not legal to move when full. I’m not comfortable doing it. I’ll end up with the 120 gal tanks I’m pretty sure.
Gene Miller yea is so the 120 gallon bottles. They can go right against the house and get you a 17 kw or smaller. You may not get the entire house but at least the essentials like fridge and heat/air and a tv or 2.
We recently installed a 22Kw Generac with a Smart Management Module (load shedding device) the module already failed and burned out, the generator has not been needed, and only tests once per week for about 4 1/2 minutes, does anyone have had this problem?
Same problem, two year old 22kw with a 100A SMM. Made a buzzing noise from day one and eventually the circuit board fried. Had the 60A AC breaker wired to it. Ordered a new 100A SMM (they only come with a one year warranty) and this time connected the 50A double oven breaker to the SMM - no buzzing noise and fingers crossed. From everything I’ve read these are unreliable devises. Hopefully this one lasts longer.
Chris Bertram A hard-start kit is essentially a capacitor that's placed inside your air conditioner. This hard starter acts as a "kick start" device that will push your fan on. The fan should start spinning very fast almost immediately as opposed to the slow start-up time that may have plagued it beforehand. The capacitor in the hard-start kit essentially provides extra juice at the beginning to help get the fan, and thus the motorized compressor, running at full speed right off the bat.
Donny Aldridge I’ve not heard that one before. This is my 2nd one and have had flawless operation out of both. The maintenance is key to keeping them in good running condition as well as proper installation.
Donny Aldridge Oh this not an equipment issue, this gentleman was using the generator as his primary source of power. This model is not designed for that type of use. It is a standby back up generator, not a off the grid primary generator. Generac makes a generator for that type of use but he did not buy the correct generator.
After 30 years experience working on GenSets, I can say generac makes poorly designed and executed JUNK,then hires morons to install it residentially,because the codes are more easily broken. People would be better served by a Harbor Freight 4K in a wooden enclosure to cut noise,and get better immediate emergency service. Unless they plan to run it 24/7, then they get a diesel !
I THINK THIS MAN TOOK THE TIME TO SHOW PEOPLE HOW TO INFO, AND YOU COUCH PEOPLE SHOULD TRY AND LEARN!
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Excellent presentation and a neat professional job. Thank you Dan
You should have mentioned the sediment trap on gas pipe, excellent content.
If you look to the right inside the transfer box.
There’s a empty micro switch. That’s used for shutting a device of while it’s in generator mode.
Like your pool pump. The single wires that control s the pool pump would go there.
Didn’t know if you knew that.
Really good share!!
Larry
Yes, I have a video in that. I used it for the garage furnace to not run on generator power.
Very extremely informative! When We purchased our house, the electric bill was $500.00 a month! I trashed the electric "Hot water heater", which HEATS the HOT water 20-30 times a day weather you use it or not. An "On demand" GAS (LP)water heater dropped our electric bill $200.00 a month. Next was double insulated windows a little at a time. Next was GAS heat. Goodman makes a 90 percent 80,000 BTU unit with a D.C. Fan that uses a fraction of the cost as well as the 5 ton coil with a 4 ton compressor, the extra large coil has larger cooling surface. Our electric bill stays around $90-120 a month and we are VERY comfortable. Also KVAR makes a surge protector with 2 massive size capacitors for surge protection, as well as saving money on electric. EVERY time you start an appliance, it causes a surge and the electric company gets extra money for that. If the capacitor is already charged, there is NO surge, and you save MORE money.
Lloyd Morrison II
good assessment Lloyd! Our bill is about 500 in the winter months and 250 ish throughout the summer. Only reason I didn’t go with LP heat was because it seems to flocculate far more than power. The shortage a few years back put everyone at odds not knowing if they were going to be able to afford propane or not. I just recently got an upgraded heat pump and furnace and already have 100 a month savings on the bill, seen a decrease in the winter last year also by about 200 bones a month. I am considering the in demand water with my propane, but haven’t pulled the trigger yet. What tankless system did you go with? How many square fixtures is it supplying?
I'm very impressed, especially with the whole house surge protection. Very good decision on your behalf. The last generator I did a few weeks ago required a 200 amp service upgrade and we installed a Cutler Hammer 40-circuit panel with the built in surge protection. Came out looking really sharp and serves a great, great purpose. Remember, anything with a microprocessor is subject to surge and a few hundred dollars versus several thousands of dollars, well, it's worth it to have.
Very nice gas piping too. I see it installed incorrectly with the flexible line often.
+electricalron I watch
alot of Mike Holmes shows and have learned a great deal from that gentleman.
His picture is on the box of the Eaton Surge Protectors as he endorses it. I
used to have the battery backups on all my TV’s but I noticed when running
generator power they kept switching back and forth from battery and generator
power, and that make them drain quickly and then shut off, therefore the stuff
that was plugged into it, were no longer powered. I investigated it a bit
further and determined that I had to get specific UPS compatible with generator
power or dirty power if you will. Then I’ve always had the surge protectors on
all my other tv’s and electronics. Gas work was actually a breeze. Very easy to
do. What I love about my local code authority, they will let you, as the homeowner
do any work you want. Some city’s require you to have someone licensed in that
specific field of work to complete the work.
Dan, that is the general rule for most states that you can do your own work at your house without a license contractor. Only if you own a multi-family dwelling or a commercial space would you be required to have a licensed plumber/ electrician. Believe it or not, some states don't even have a licensing requirement.
Btw, I've also learned a lot from Holmes, especially the non-electrical related stuff.
+electricalron Since you have both learned so much from Mr Holmes , Then WHY in Canada do they put there Breaker Panels in Sideways ? I wonder that everytime I watch that show .. LOL ....
BigHeartedMan65 Hahahahahahah! That's
Hilarious! Kinda of weird yes, but the reason as I identify it, is in section 240.33 of the 2011 NEC requires that enclosures containing overcurrent devices must be mounted in a vertical position unless this isn't practical. Circuit-breaker enclosures can be mounted horizontally if the circuit breaker is installed in accordance with 240.81.
Section 240.81 specifies that where circuit breaker handles are operated vertically, the "up" position of the handle must be in the ON position. So, in effect, an enclosure that contains one row of circuit breakers can be mounted horizontally, but an enclosure that contains a panelboard with multiple circuit breakers on opposite sides of each other will have to be mounted vertically. But that is all somewhat disputable because they use CSA (Canadian Standards Association) in Canada and in USA we use NEC (National Electrical Code) standards. I don't believe Canada has their own panels made and to meet their standard it has be installed horizontally.
The panel in my house is a Square D, Homeline, HOMC30UC, and the main breaker is switched left to right, Left on, right is off, in Canada it would have be installed "sideways" so the on position would be on top, and the off positon would be on the bottom, to be installed correctly according to their code requirements.
Excellent video, thanks for taking the time to post that
Hey thanks for watching, it has 3 parts to it and a follow up video.
Ill be sure to check them out, thanks again, its very helpful
We just got a 22kw Genrac with a 330 tank also put in auto switches to control loads. It hooks into the main line coming to the house. Have it set up to run every other week on Wednesday. Put a foam pipe cover or cut a rubber engine water hose and cover that line its thicker.
Saw all the three parts of your videos. Nicely made.Thanks,
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Nice set up buddy. Congrats
Well done! I’ve just ordered a generator and will install it myself under the guidance of an electrical contractor that’s also a Generac dealer. I’m getting the genpad but I think I’ll go ahead and do a slab for it to set on.
Steve Avant
Both a slab and gen pad would be way overkill! The slab is perfectly ok, mine is a solid as the day they installed it.
I had my 20kw Generac installed about 3 years ago. Boy, doe it work great!
The company that put it in here in Houston is Wired Electric. They are an authorized Generac and other generator companies dealers.
It took them two days to install it. When the power goes out within 10 seconds the house is back to running without any problem.
My house is a shining beacon in a dark neighborhood.
The city inspectors came out and checked the installation and said it was a first rate job and gave me the green OK tickets.
Don't try to install one of these or any other generators by yourself. You need to have someone that has experience and not have a bootleg bother-in-law job.
Outstanding installation! Very clean, Professional, and will last forever.
Thanks Lloyd.
Great video. Only wish you could have pointed to the wiring and explained what size of wire was used at each application. For instance what size wire did you use coming from the generator to the transfer switch and what size wire was used coming from the transfer switch to the main panel and what size wire was used from the meter to the transfer switch. Thank you.
Nice setup. I've heard the same thing about the regulator vent causing an explosion. Can't find any examples of that ever happening. My house has been here for 40 years with the AC next to the gas meter. There are also several other homes with it too. At one point the vent had a constant gas smell. Never had an issue with anything exploding. Natural gas is actually pretty hard to ignite. It usually happens indoors when it has been allowed to accumulate. I remember an episode of Mike Holms where they moved the gas meter for the same reason, probably cost $2000, what you did makes more sense and is way cheaper.
Very informative video, thank you. Have you ever run your generator for an extended period of time during an outage? About how many gallons per hour did the generator burn please?
Yea I’ve had 12 hour outage and the fuel needle on the propane tank moved a hair or 2, it really does not us much fuel. Depends on the load on it also. I attached the spec sheets that is for the units Generac sells now. There are 3 parts to this video and I have a couple other generator update videos you should check out the channel. Thanks for watching!
www.generac.com/generaccorporate/media/library/content/all-products/generators/home-generators/guardian-series/16kw-7035/generac-home-generators-guardian-16kw-20kw-22kw_spec-sheet-2017.pdf
Great video but i believe hard starts actually are rougher on ac systems and shorten the life span. They are also considerably cheaper than soft starts.
I updated to soft start on my hvac system, it’s better for the equipment than a hard start.
Instead of a hard start ,look in to installing a Micro-air SOFT START . You probably already have but i just wanted to bring to your attention
Yea I had to change heat pumps out and put a soft start on my new one. Night and day difference for sure.
I thought the rubber hose (the one covered in automotive wrap), needed to be mounted in a vertical fashion for movement reasons like earthquake? Horizontally mounted I thought it could push and pull and cause a problem say if the earth shifted and there was movement. Maybe even movement say someone ran into it with a big garden tractor and moved the generator over several inches. I would think a vertically mounted rubber hose would work better than horizontal ?
Page 24. #3 talks about the rubber flex line. Page 25 shows the recommended installation for the gas line.
cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1151/7156/files/8-22install.pdf?3391522684100065444
The entire purpose of the flex line is to absorb vibration so their not leaks creates at the connection points. The newer style generators have a steel type flex section and not rubber. Supposedly it can be bent or rounded during installation and the rubber one cannot. The steel flex does not look as clean of an install either.
@@dan8220 I looked at the link you sent. It doesnt say to install horizontal or vertical, it just says dont flex it like shown in the photo they provide on page 24. Page 25 I dont see where they show the rubber hose at all.
@@thelpw2608 I did mine exactly how the picture shows, you are correct it only says to not bend the hose, but the illustration in the photos shows it running with the generator, check this website out. These folks are the professional installers and can give many reason why or why not for any question. Great group of folks.
www.zillerstore.com
Thank you! Very informative.
Thanks for the mention, Dan. Those generators aren't exactly lightweight, and you're right. The weight isn't evenly distributed. As it exercises itself, it gradually settles unevenly which messes up oil distribution and causes the unit to break down (expensive repair). It's good that the generator bolts directly to it for the same reason.
Is/was there a reason why you didnt run your heatpump into the ATS using the A/C 1 contact?
There was no reason to. That was for locking out the heat pump if the generator was reaching compasity but with a 22kw and 3 lock outs for other heavy items it was not necessary. I’d you had 2 air units or heat pumps it may be so they don’t both start at the same time.
@@dan8220 makes sense
I'm about to fixed 20kva and I want to know how to fix it can you please help?
Depending, what are you trying to fix?
@@dan8220 the same generator
Where does your generator battery charging circuit originate from and how did you wire it in from your electrical panel?
It’s built into the generator control board and is connected to the T1 on the terminal in the generator and then to the T1 in the transfer switch.
@@dan8220 Ok cool. I didn't know if you needed a separate branch circuit dedicated for it like we do at the hospital generators for the charging system. That sounds great. Good job. I've watched a bunch of your videos. Our hospital I work at will soon be getting 2 - 2000 KW generators up and running. They have two 20000 gallon diesel tanks in the ground too. Big stuff. God bless 🙏
@@onecrazywheel thanks for watching, I appreciate that.
A few questions: What size is your propane tank? How much did it cost to fill it up and what's the shelf life of propane? I wouldn't want to pay $400 worth of propane for it to sit for years and possibly go bad.
My tank is 500 gallons but they fill it up to 80% which is 400 gallons. The cost to fill it up depends on the price per gallon of propane. That is why I bought my own tank, so I could get it filled from any propane company and not be locked down to the company you rent a tank from. I rented a tank for 2 years when I had my 14KW and they were charging $3.05 a gallon and everyone else was around $2.60 a gallon. When I bought the 500 gallon I paid $.98 cent a gallon. I have used propane that was 18 years old out of a 500 gallon tank that was on the property when I bought it. the sellers son said they haven't use that tank in at least 15-20 years. I thought it was empty, but when I pushed the ball valve in the rotten egg smell and the fsst, indeed pushed out propane. Ended up being about 150 gallons left in that tank. We took the propane out and filled BBQ grill bottles. Worked as good as the new one that we had filled before we knew we could get the gas out of the big tank. I've never head of propane going bad. You are more likely to have a tank problem before the propane ever goes bad.
He said it was a 500 Gallons..50% load on the 22K that is 6 days. Propane never goes bad.. look it up before you make such and ignorant comment.
Oh please, how the hell was my comment ignorant? All I did was ask a simple question. Get off your high horse and try not to be so full of yourself.
1. If you actually listened to the video he states the size of the tank your first question. 2. You asked what the shelf life of propane is. Don't be lazy and expect someone to answer it for you. Go into Google and type it in and search for it. The fact that you asked those 2 questions show that you're ignorant. Hence.. the definition of ignorant "lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular" You Sir are this very definition. Thank you have a nice day.. :-)
Scott Arsenault Wow, I’m sure you’re the pride and joy in your household with your great knowledge and wisdom. You should be very proud. Oh wait, you already are.
Nice set up
Awsome.. Enjoyed your video... You know whats up!
Wow How much does all this cost to buy and set up. Looks expensive.
I noticed that the neutral and ground was bonded at the transfer switch. Did someone un-bond in the main breaker panel?
Steve Hill
Yes they are separated in the main panel inside the house.
Dan, how has your 22kw been holding up? I know you have had it awhile now and was just curious. Also have you lost power and needed to use it? I am approaching 1 year with mine soon. I've had ZERO issues.
Mr Glock23
Yea mine has been great. I’ve lost power a couple times due to transformers blowing so I lost power for 30 minutes about 3 times. No Major outage as of yet. Only a couple disappointments, 1 is the mobile link is a joke and 2 the milky oil.
Nice
@@dan8220 Can you elaborate on not liking mobile link and the milky oil please?
Harold Rodriguez
I have a update video that I cover that in.
#Space #Village 1 likes some of this stuff. The wirering but we see some problems with the Gen so we would love to see a low wind 5kw stacked to 20kw or 2 10kw with are upgerad and 100year bearings and make the so you can add on more as needed for 24Hr power thanks
I wish Generac would come out with a home WiFi interface so you could monitor your generator VIA the Computer or your smart phone.
They do have a system which connects to cellular service. That may be good in a remote service area, but face it, that's just another expenditure we can live without.
We all have wireless routers and WiFi that would extend to our back yards.
I have e-mailed Generac and told their customer service about that but all they tell me is their "Mobile Link".
I wish everyone would get in touch with Generac and push this feature and tell them to develop a WiFi connected system.
They are actually working on something that will be Wi-Fi enabled. I added the mobile link about 4 months ago and it is limited to the point that it just sends you status updates. You can't change anything or, get into your control panel through it. Kinda of generic but lets you know if it needs any attention.
I again talked to Generac Customer support and they told me they were working on an app for smart phones or a program for your home computer to see just what your generator is doing.
That is why I posted on so many TH-cam sites so people could call them or e-mail them and build a fire under them.
I bet the people in the North East that are without power are having their generators run like crazy.
Now waiting for the WiFi upgrade.
I think that's coming as standard in 2018, though I don't know if it only applies to new units or if it can be retrofit on previous models.
Look at Deep Sea Electrons low cost and works on anything.... Also you should look at using the A/C load shedding for your A/C units if you go to an overload it will shed the A/C unit based on Frequency nice feature most do not know about...
I got a new 11 KW replacement generator. My present transfer switch has no T 1 wire hook up. how could I connect the battery charging wire to the transfer switch?
Ray S.
Your gonna have to run a wire from your t1 out of the transfer with or put in a separate battery trickle charger.
What causes too much amps going to Breaker Box from a 15kw generac kicking main breaker?
David Terro
best bet on that one is to go here and they will help you draw down the options.
www.zillerstore.com
3/8 COPPER FROM TANK. WHAT THE BTU RATING FOR 3/8 COPPER
Around 220,000 and the generator uses about 74,000.
Nice video 22,000 watts divided by 240 = 91.66amp they make a 90amp breaker but it 91.66 the company and go to next size breaker 100amps.
David Petrusewicz
The generator does have a 100 amp breaker. Not sure what your referring too.
@@dan8220 math don't lie. A true 100 amp generator would be a 24,000 watt generator at 240 volt is a true 100 amp generator
David Petrusewicz
I have no idea what your referring too.
Manufacturer got to next size breaker. Like a service used 2 alu or 4 copper wire go to 100 amp but from a main panel to a sub panel that #2 is the breaker is for a 90 amp breaker.
David Petrusewicz what part of the video are you looking at? The installers put in the wires and the local code enforcement inspected it per the permit, if it were incorrect it would not have passed the inspection.
Can you show the connections for your T1 line at the generator end. I have a 16kw and battery will not charge at all. THANKS
2010Basepay2010
Not sure how to attach a picture here but the T1 goes to the T1 terminal in the generator. You can check these guys out and the can help you troubleshoot and possibly resolve. The are all Generac installers. Check out there forums.
www.zillerstore.com
@@dan8220 Thanks for the info and your time.
Nice install.
I’m amazed how much people will spend to not go without electricity. I live where there are hurricanes and reliable power systems has a 5-6 month backlog of work. On average, it cost 25-30k here for a 17 to 22k system.
Nooooo way I’d spend that much! That’s crazy too much money. They aren’t a quarter of that cost around here.
5k just for the electrician to run the wires and set it all up. They have to bury the tanks because it’s a neighborhood. In some communities with all the setbacks and codes that means under the driveway. They pull up the pavers and sink it and replace them. It’s out of my price range.
Gene Miller
you have a homeowners association? Natural gas available?
Yes, Hoa but no gas. We either have to bury a tank or run gas. I have a gasoline 15k and a propane 15k someone gave me for free. I only have 6 small tanks for now but it’s better than nothing. We lost power in 2005 for 13 days and then 9 days after multiple storms came through. Code here is over 125 gal. of propane and you have to be 10’ from the property line and all openings. We have zero lot line and have very little options. I could buy a couple of 120 gal. Tanks and tie them together. I could also buy a 250 gallon tank and keep it at my friends shop. If we have a storm go and load it on a trailer. The downside is those tanks are not legal to move when full. I’m not comfortable doing it. I’ll end up with the 120 gal tanks I’m pretty sure.
Gene Miller yea is so the 120 gallon bottles. They can go right against the house and get you a 17 kw or smaller. You may not get the entire house but at least the essentials like fridge and heat/air and a tv or 2.
Nice Job.!!
We recently installed a 22Kw Generac with a Smart Management Module (load shedding device) the module already failed and burned out, the generator has not been needed, and only tests once per week for about 4 1/2 minutes, does anyone have had this problem?
I haven’t had or heard of any issue. I don’t have smart modules though, I have the pmm’s that’ were before the newer ones you have.
Same problem, two year old 22kw with a 100A SMM. Made a buzzing noise from day one and eventually the circuit board fried. Had the 60A AC breaker wired to it. Ordered a new 100A SMM (they only come with a one year warranty) and this time connected the 50A double oven breaker to the SMM - no buzzing noise and fingers crossed. From everything I’ve read these are unreliable devises. Hopefully this one lasts longer.
What is a hard start kit
Chris Bertram
A hard-start kit is essentially a capacitor that's placed inside your air conditioner. This hard starter acts as a "kick start" device that will push your fan on. The fan should start spinning very fast almost immediately as opposed to the slow start-up time that may have plagued it beforehand. The capacitor in the hard-start kit essentially provides extra juice at the beginning to help get the fan, and thus the motorized compressor, running at full speed right off the bat.
Too bad the estimate I get from electrical company was 4k just for labor and a 11kw generator is about 3k. Just don’t get labor cost at all.
DrMario Pepper
How many estimates did you get?
Every install is different. Install includes permit fees, gas/electrical and site prep. Install parts alone add up fast.
They say these things are a joke and usually blow up after only a few hundred hrs on the engine
Donny Aldridge
I’ve not heard that one before. This is my 2nd one and have had flawless operation out of both. The maintenance is key to keeping them in good running condition as well as proper installation.
@@dan8220 th-cam.com/video/iEc66BhuzzI/w-d-xo.html
Donny Aldridge
Oh this not an equipment issue, this gentleman was using the generator as his primary source of power. This model is not designed for that type of use. It is a standby back up generator, not a off the grid primary generator. Generac makes a generator for that type of use but he did not buy the correct generator.
5.2.1 relays will cut LRA Bigtime....
What part number is it
@@TheHookahg it's called (5.2.1. start kit)
After 30 years experience working on GenSets, I can say generac makes poorly designed and executed JUNK,then hires morons to install it residentially,because the codes are more easily broken. People would be better served by a Harbor Freight 4K in a wooden enclosure to cut noise,and get better immediate emergency service. Unless they plan to run it 24/7, then they get a diesel !