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These EVs are making it to America because in the last year there's been an influx of Chinese citizens coming into the country illegally and sometimes they're coming from Canada and sometimes they're coming from Mexico but many of them are driving through the desert
15:05 China's "highspeed rail" BRI project in Massachusetts constantly catches fire. 20 years and it's still not complete. It needs National attention and shaming to shut down. "East/west rail" is a money pit.
@@wisdomleader85That's only because it's a intro model the more expensive ones comes with a detachable steering wheel that you can take with you that's the complete Mr.Bean model 😜
Nailed it. As you’ve said before, once you’ve lived in China for a while, you realize they just chabuduo the **** out of everything. My “luxury” apartment in Beijing looked amazing… for the first few months. It’s only after you’ve lived there for a while that you realize the wood paneling is just stickers, the kitchen sink is only held on with caulk, and the granite flooring in your bedroom starts to crack and break apart because they never leveled the subfloor and used spackel instead of grout. If they’ll cut corners when making baby formula to earn a few extra bucks, then why would it be any different for an EV?
We get stunning luxury Chinese car brands here in South Africa. At 75% of established brand's prices. After a few short years these Chinese brands disappear, and a few new brands appear. So no parts, no service.
The wild thing is, none of these were accidents, they were all just charging or driving normally. These are massive quality control issues. I work on smart phones and smart devices and know firsthand that you can't mess with Lithium batteries. The thermal runaway will just continue until the energy is used.
They are not even driving at max speed in the highway, the roads are all flat and well maintained, the batteries should not be bumped around and they should not overheat. this is peak clownery.
You work with pouch cells, not blade or cylindrical.. 1 cell of 4600 shorting should be unnoticeable, as each is fused. Not all packs are equal, they are vastly different.
The company I used to work at provided testing facilities for the automotive industry, batteries included. The battery tests were conducted in armored, reinforced cargo containers for safety. And around a year ago, a battery actually blew up inside one of them. The explosion was violent enough to rip the reinforced door out of the frame and yeet it several meters away. There even were some blow-out panels installed, but the pressure of the explosion was just too much for them to handle.
Most of those blast-proof enclosures are rated for X amount of pounds of TNT, so if a battery explosion blew it up, the amount of energy behind it must've been insane.
So your company didn't design a safety system with a high factor of safety? Because a proper company would have over-engineered a safety system with redundancies but I mean I guess.
I stayed in a Chinese built apartment block in Kenya. It looked like a unmaintained 20 year old building in the UK. Electrics tripping, paint peeling, damp, leaks, broken glass and everything was super low quality. It was in a shocking state and was 2 years old!
U wonder what Kenyan government sold the chines to get such a great deal. Was it an airport, was it mineral rights or was it a land for future military build up.
So China invented a flashy EV version of the Ford Pinto that self ignites, no collision in the rear necessary, as a key feature. Hopefully it has other great features like an "all static" AM radio, automatic ejector seats that launch upon collision, self-shredding transmission, motor oil fountain, and auto flattening tires.
The billion dollar battery recall by Hyundai and GM was caused by the Chinese plant where LG Chem was building the batteries. Batteries built by LG outside China were ok, but all the batteries built in China had to be replaced because of a manufacturing defect
GM has such a great reputation.. China is killing these good companies... This is absolutely absurd !!!.... Chi sin. It takes around a good 5 years to train a low level manager.... The pay is similar regardless of levels.. but the importance is actually the qualities. And they even rate them on performances by being truthful...
I know I'm pretty late but GODDAMN that motorcycle in the elevator had me absolutely mortified for those two... I can't imagine the horror of knowing that thing IS going to explode at ANY moment, you can see the panic setting in on those two poor people...
What gets me on a lot of these, are the jets of flame shooting out. It's not just the vehicle itself, but a threat to other vehicles and even people around them.
The radiant heat from one electric car is sufficient to break the seal on the battery in another electric car parked next to it, creating a chain reaction of igniting cars. It will be very exciting to see when a parking structure is full of enough of these for the whole thing to go off.
This is why Japanese automakers are "behind" in the EV game. They have to make sure that the technology they're putting in their cars actually WORKS, instead of, you know, catching fire.
Toyota is developing Hydrogen electric technology because they see it as more viable than batteries. Once Toyota brings an EV to the US and its been out a few years, I might consider getting one.
@@wes773105333 the BZ4X is a solid first attempt by Toyota imo. People complain about the range and all but, who actually drives more than 200 miles on a daily basis?
@@wes773105333 Their first EV had to be recalled because the wheels fall off. Toyota head of engineering recently said they tore down a Model Y and is saying Tesla engineering and manufacturing is lightyears above Toyota... A "symphony of engineering and manufacturing" is a quote. So far Ford, VW and Toyota have said that they are far behind Tesla in technology and manufacturing...
Dude, my Chinese made shaving machine blew up whilst being charged for the very first time. It literally blew up, and I didn’t even get to use it, not even once. That’s $70 down the drain. My previous German-made (Braun)shaving machine, lasted from 2009-2022.
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@@cheecharron1244 China is expected to have food rationing shortly. ''Long pork'' might be the way to go, especially since most of the organs have already been removed, and they have millions in jails ready to be ''harvested''.
When I was a child I wanted a big house like in American movies, with a big garage integrated. Now with all these EVs I want my garage to be a free-standing structure at least 10 meters away.
you should always want your garage to be freestanding and NOT at the front of the house Attached garages (at the front of the house) are a result of poor design and building practices starting in the early 70's.
@@V100-e5q water is not effective at stopping lithium battery fires. So believe it or not even parking your car in the swimming pool wouldn’t stop the battery from overheating soon as you take the car out of the water it would combusting fire. Don’t believe me Google how much water is necessary to put out an EV fire 🔥
Stick with me for a moment while I explain something. I used to import computer mice, I mean by the container load. We would start by ordering some samples which we tested and noted the components. Satisfied that they worked we would order an initial batch of 3,000 pieces. When they arrived we would test those mice but guess what, the internals were nothing like the samples that we signed off. Sure they looked the same and they also worked but when confronted the factories response was "what's your problem, they are the same thing. We use other components when there's a short supply". This video 100% explains the truth about Chinese manufacturing, it's like an ants nest of small companies supplying bigger ones and they will take short cuts without you knowing. I don't know why you electric reviewers out there keep banging on about their design, their construction and their reliability? It's all smoke and mirrors.
This is why the EU and the USA is keep saying things like "go green"... as in..."take the rubbish from china and start manufacturing to create a better quality item " etc.... THAT is what they are saying now. Some people have started to do just that. Others not so much...
Why iPhones made in China have no such problems? Any chance money talks? He who pays calls! My experience is, Walmart merchandisers mandates product tiers to the market, product life related to target customer groups with targeted enduser price ! Sometimes engineered for shorter product life, even pay for higher exfactory price.
@@wilsonh9145 *That is different, so different that idk if your just playing dumb or not !* Apple does not *F Around* & They *Sure As F* Don’t Let The 🇨🇳 *Chinese* 🇨🇳 Manufacturers / *COMPONENT ASSEMBLERS F AROUND* , They of Course Had to Learn THIS the Hard Way, But They Did Learn ! *Only Two Companies* Are *ALLOWED* To Manufacture IPhones - ⚫️ *PEGATRON* - *&* - ⚫️ *FOXCONN* *BOTH* of These Companies Are 🇹🇼 *TAIWANESE* 🇹🇼 *Owned & Operated !¡!* *NEVERMIND THE FACT* That Many of The (Critical, Sensitive, & Delicate) Components Are *Pre-Fabricated* & Then Sent to These Companies For Additional Manufacturing & *ASSEMBLY* ! ~~~ *NO* , The Important Point Is That These 🇹🇼 *TAIWANESE* 🇹🇼 Companies Know *EXACTLY* What They Are Doing & What Needs To Be Done. On Top of ThIS Is That - They Know *EXACTLY* What The Mainlanders Are Like, Exactly What BS They Will Try To Pull if Given Half A Chance, & *EXACTLY* How To Keep Their 🇨🇳 *Chinese* 🇨🇳 Employees *IN LINE, UNDER THEIR THUMB, & UNABLE TO CAUSE HARM UNDER SUCH TIGHT CONTROL !¡!* ⚫️ *SO DON’T PLAY DUMB !¡! THE ONLY REASON THEIR ISN’T TROUBLE IN THAT PARTICULAR INDUSTRY & A FEW OTHERS, IS BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDER TIGHT CONTROL, SURVEILLANCE, & HAVE STRICT OVERSEERS WHO ARE BASICALLY PRISON GUARDS PROTECTING THE COMPANY FROM THESE SHIESTY, SHADY, & CORRUPT* 🇨🇳 *CHINESE* 🇨🇳 *!!! ¡¡¡ !!!* 👁🗨 *You Know It & I Sure As 5H1T Know It, & If You a truly Did Not Know at his Grim Reality, Then NOW YOU DO !¡!* ➖ *They Can NOT Be Trusted. So The* 🇨🇳 *CHINESE* 🇨🇳 *Employees Require* 🇹🇼 *Taiwanese* 🇹🇼 *Overseers, Guards, & Basically As An Internal Police For The Factory z owners !l!* 😆😂🤣 🇨🇳 *CHINESE* 🇨🇳 *Can’t Even Be Trusted As Guard Dogs Against Their Fellow Countrymen Because They Are The Type To Raid The HenHouse !l! ¡¡¡ !!! HA-HA-HA !¡! ¡!¡ !¡!* 🤣😂😆
Safety tip: stay upwind of a lithium battery fire. The smoke is seriously toxic. In an enclosed space, don't try to fight the fire - you'll fail - just get outside.
Last time I was near a Tesla Model 3 fire, I accidentally caught a breath of the smoke and had trouble breathing for a week afterwards. Even if you're downwind, the smell permeates through the air and stinks like a power station fire.
The biggest problem is that even when you constantly lower the temperature of the fire with water the shorted battery will continue to discharge rapidly until it simply cannot any more. And heat will probably fuse together more and more parts of the battery until everything is shorted. My god imagine a mass crash in a tunnel in a world with the majority being electric cars that would be absolutely deadly.
Few years ago a diesel car started to burn in Norwegian airport parking hall. Several gas tanks exploded destroying that section of parking hall. Several EVs burned, but not a single battery burned. Accident in a tunnel full of EVs would much less serious than with gas cars. Hydrogen cars would make it much worse.
@@jkn6644 EVs with safer batteries would. But in China they use the least safe chemistries. Those chemistries emit oxygen gas in significant quantities when they burn, so the graphite and metal electrodes also catch fire. Metal+graphite fire is no joke!
Gasoline burns more easily and you are most likely carrying 2-3 times more energy in the gasoline than in the battery. I would be far more worried about such a crash happening with gas cars. Much more likely to spread from car to car with the explosive flames from gasoline vs heat but mostly contained for batteries.
The thing is, it's not just an electrical fire. It's a metal fire. The metals in the battery actually catch fire. You do not want to mess around with metal fires. They are insanely intense.
The lithium in the batteries are turning moisture in the air into Lithium Hydroxide, Hydrogen gas, and heat. The Lithium itself doesn't ignite, but it produces a whole lot of good fuel.
@@ctpctp The lithium is undergoing a thermal reaction to produce lithium hydroxide. In laymen's terms, it's burning. It's going to be distinction without a difference when your entire car, including the frame, is on fire.
An the colbolt in fire fumes a creature from hell.Any skin contact can cause a semi permanent disabling effect and a major danger to first res ponders.
I was on the firefighting team as part of my job on a ferry in 2021-22. Our gravest fear was having an EV catch fire on the car deck, as we wouldn’t be able to extinguish it, despite having the newest high-fog, foaming agents, and enormous fire pumps. We would always park them by the ramp, joking that they’d go overboard if they caught fire (impossible btw). Thankfully never happened and the company no longer allows EVs onboard.
@@wandameadows5736 to the point where countries are banning the sale of other vehicles in the near future. Can't see any problems there in terms of incentive to solve the problem.
I have a fireman friend and he told me these electric cars are ridiculously hard to put out, the degrees at which they burn is incredible compared to regular fires..He said water barely works..They need to find something that can put these fires out quickly
The thing is, there's barely anything flammable inside a car, so for it to catch fire it must be incredibly hot. And the temperature rises due to the energy from the battery, so you can't put it out, it just heats up again until it runs out of charge.
I sometimes work in tunnels here in Europe. In general, only diesel-fueled vehicles are allowed inside the tunnel as diesel doesn't ignite as much as gasoline; and this is also the reason why especially EVs are NOT allowed inside a tunnel under construction.
the horizontal flame thrower mode is quite impressive. I heard they had primitive propane versions of those as carjacker deterrents in Johannesburg, but those were intentional and only worked in small bursts.
Some great vids of flame fried SA thugs. Funny shit, asses on fire and their heads are catching, swatting themselves like they're dancing the macarena🎆 LOL
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time. Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them). Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI). Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy. Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI). Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad). Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning! Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures. Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement. It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them. (19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).. Salam (Peace) -------------
The older Tesla from 2012-2013 also catch on fire but when Tesla heard about that, they put a massive titanium cover to protect the battery and a really big fan to help the battery cool down when overheat! Chinese brand don't have these!!!!
I overheard a Chinese man ask about a certain Japanese brand and where it's products are made. When the employee said made in China the Chinese man left. 😂
LOL.... I mean.. I recently bought a VERY old... brand of malt sugar.. even THAT was SO diluted it was surreal?!!?! I bet that, some small local companies have been bought out a lot... and then asset stripped to the point that.. they use those companies and those money to fill in their glorified projects or whatever. I bet that this is what had been going on. Cos I cannot for the life of me think... why isn't these malt sugar tastes as strong any more. I bet it is one of those "I will dilute one single real one,into 10 fake ones to sell on Amazon".... kind of sh!tty scam. People are way too obsessed with money these days... It's just... sigh...
Not many there yet? They are starting to become almost common here in Canada and I live in a small isolated city. Only started to see them locally maybe two years ago now I see one at least once a day
Consumer: The car catches fire. Company: We are working to solve this. Consumer: The air bags don't go off. Company: To address the issue of our cars catching fire, we have disabled the air bags to increase your chances of being ejected from the vehicle. We've determined that this is a safer alternative to burning alive.
I was considering buying an electric bike, but then I started to hear about those things just bursting into flames, and since I'd be keeping it in my garage, that means if it caught fire, it would burn down our house, maybe at night with me and the missus asleep. I gave up the idea and just got a normal 21 speed bike for our mountain roads. The fact that manufacturers AND the media are keeping this quiet is not only disgusting, it's potential murder.
Well loads of those reports are extremely overblown. If one e-bike catches on fire it will make national news, while a gasoline car fire will barely even make the local news. In reality they're extremely safe, and all of the electric bikes that *have* caught fire have always been home-built ones or super cheap Chinese ones bought from sites like Wish.
As a former Base Fire Officer in the Australian military, I am gobsmacked at these well meaning but silly people standing so close to burning cars, with the very real possible of a massive explosion or burning liquid electrolyte under pressure, shooting out from under the car, engulfing everything, and every one, in its path...🐼🐼
Forgive them. Just 30 years ago those well meaning but silly people were totally unfamiliar with any other transportation technology than their government-issued black bicycle.😉
I think part of it comes down to ignorance on their part; they don't realize how dangerous it is to stand that close. Another part is that outside the West many people seem to care less about safety in general. They're way more accepting of danger even when they know fully well how dangerous something is.
There is a saying in Hindi (🇮🇳) about Chinese stuff in India i.e "Chala to Chand taak nhi to saam taak" which translates to 'If it works, It will work till the distance of moon (Basically if luck favours, The Chinese stuff will work for years) but if its fails, It will work till evening'. 😂😂. Very apt. explanation.
Indeed, and I first heard the term “‘export quality” used in south Asian to describe Chinese products. It turns out the Chinese junk we get the in US - export quality - is far better than the stuff they sell domestically. Now if you excuse me, I’m gonna go watch a movie on my Pony brand TV.
@@ClockworksOfGL export quality was a thing in all of the so called communist states. When you were bribing your doctor to give you the treatment you were technically guaranteed by law, the ones most likely to ensure you got a decent treatment were packs of real coffee smuggled from Germany, jeans, or export quality clothes. They were so much better than the domestic ones it wasn't even funny.
The front end damage distorting the door and cab of the BYD in the multiple car accident is EXTREMELY concerning for anyone who knows even a little bit about the impact safety testing done on new vehicles, especially when the airbags failed too.
if the airbags wont deploy its a failed test and the car is not allowed to be sold here locally, that in the one if not one of the top requirements to get a ok to be sold
Tesla showed a video of crash tested vehicle that you could sill open and close the door. Meaning of course the crash had very little impact on the passenger cabin. BYD or any chinese car brand will never be sold in the US.
@@donm2255 Everything you said is true but BYD won't be sold in the US because of politics. BYD is meeting safety requirements and starting to sell cars in Europe, Australia and other western area's. Sure they won't be as safe as Tesla's but most cars aren't. BYD certainly has a way to go but their cars have gotten significantly better over the years.
@@JohnSmith-wx9wj Or lack there of, but whatever the reasons, they will need to pass the same regulations as everyone else. BYD is selling at significantly lower prices than other EV's and even lower than ICE vehicles in some cases. If they can pass safety regulations and politics in western countries they will gain a huge market share. Then again those are "ifs"
When I was in China, the taxi fleet had been upgraded in about the last 5 years, with similar aged Toyotas. VWs, BYDs and some Suzuki vehicles. I would actively avoid the BYD's as they were totally clapped out, was incredible how quickly they disintegrated in comparison to the other marques.
Reminds me of a friend I had in Italy. He bought a brand new Tata pickup (Tacoma clone basically) and it fell apart straight away. It wasn't even six months old and it had nasty electrical gremlins and surprisingly broad mechanical issues. Parts were just popping off; go to roll down the window and the winder would end up in your hand lol-
@@mer9706 The stories I could tell you about Tatas! And the next biggest problem after buying your Tata is getting mechanics to fix it without making the car another 5 years older because of the damage they would do!
This was an advert for why electric cars in their current state will never be successful. Just imagine a shopping centre car park full with electric cars. The whole block would have to be evacuated
In the Netherlands there are communal underground garages where it is not allowed to park EVs. That in response to a serious fire caused by a T....A where at least 50 other cars were completely burned out.
All electric cars have this problem and they are not as green as they say, all the materials for the bat'teries are not recycled, toxic and only last 5 to 10 years before you need to replace and discard the whole set. (Also very expensive to replace battery set).
Once the battery is in thermal runaway, the battery produces oxygen and heat through a chemical reaction that then produces flame. It can be submerged in water and still not be extinguished. It can be put in a vacuum and still burn. The batteries needs to burn completely before the fire is considered extinguished. Water is used to cool it while it burns.
hmm...someone should tell the dopey climate activists blocking up the roads about this! Doesn't sound very environmentally friendly. Like those windmills that kill thousands and thousands of birds.
I remember hearing as a kid we would all be driving Chinese cars. My dad would rub the tailfin on his old Thunderbird and say you might, but I wouldn't. Being an engineer, and working for a Chinese company he said there quality controls were terrible, and apparently there has been no improvement and my dad did this contract like 25 years ago back in the late 90s
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Quality is poor, but when labor is almost free, unions are illegal, and the government is backing you, it almost doesn't matter. They can afford to have 10% defective products, which they'll mostly dump on the domestic market since the Chinese people have no choice, and the best stuff will get exported. This has been the pattern for 30 years now. That said, you can't predict when a battery will explode, so it does seem like they have a huge problem to solve.
@ChickensAndGardening just like how GM, DODGE, and Ford always get bailouts. TO BIG TO FAIL. QUALITY IS POOR, NO INCENTIVE TO IMPROVE. Gm... class action on their 8 to 10 speed transmission on older and current models. It's worse when unions and Corp are on welfare. COST OF LAZY STONE ALCHOLIC labor is too expensive. Drunk lazy executes bonus are too high fur using taxpayers money. Made in the USA= GM=government Motors!
@@Tokenomics1 Its not what's more likely, its what it takes to put it out that's the problem. There's no argument that gasoline cars catch fire too, but they can be extinguished a lot easier, and safer.
@@Tokenomics1 Just FYI those stats don't differentiate between Electric and Gas car Fires. How many of those 200k are Electric cars vs Gas Cars? No one will tell you!
Thanks for covering this exclusive BYD EV feature. It’s called AFP technology (automatic fire pit tech). If you are camping, this feature turns your EV to an enormous camp fire, free of charge. Only setback is it’s for one time use.
Don't forget how incredibly toxic the smoke and fumes created when those EV's burn is,I'm glad I don't have any charging systems by where I live and I haven't seen those brands of cars in Canada yet.Hopefully never after seeing your great video,thanks.
The whole EV crazy has to stop right now. Making the batteries is extremely harmful to the environment (and the people who mine the materials), uses tons of energy, recycling then is a catastrophe and we are heading towards being buried in a battery avalanche, the toxins from batteries just rotting away somewhere are bad, the energy to charge them is mostly dirty and yeah, obviously they are unsafe too. We've had EV bus fleets burn down in Germany and France so this isn't just a Chinese quality problem.
The biggest issue with EVs catching fire, is that it's mainly a metal fire, from the batterypack, rather than a "conventional" fire from all the other parts inside. Lithium fires in particular CANNOT be put out by water, and in fact, adding water speeds up the thermal runaway, as the lithium reacts with water and explodes, which stimulates the rest of the battery to burn harder, which exposes it to more water, etc. EV batteries are so large that you'd need a full shipping container to put out their metal fire, cause you need like 6 kilos of anhydrous salt in a specialized extinguisher to put out an 800g metal fire, let alone a several hundred kilos worth.
“No matter how nice and how many features, still have quality issues.” I think the whole focus of “Made in China” is to look good on the store shelf and be the cheapest, and who cares if it doesn’t function or falls to pieces within a few weeks or months (or hours….have seen new kids shoes come apart while being tried on in the store).
@Vidalion hahaha. Something similar like that happened to me in Belize. I bought some Chinese tennis shoes and the entire sole & heel came off before I got home. 😅
@@michaelpowers9259 in China, we also buy the Chinese brand shoes which can last for 2 years at least, if you want to choose made in China, you should buy the Chinese brand but not the just made in China.
Chinas industry can produce "made in China" and actual quality goods. But going down the quantity over quality route has proven to make more money to them, hence most stuff produced in China fully falls into the "made in China" category. Unless we stop buying crap, they will continue to sell us crap. Chinese companies have really figured out this part of capitalism.
When I was making my products for shipment, I had an option to use Cheap Chinese material and make good profit but I preferred quality over cost. My profit margin was less but my customers only buy my products 😂😂
@@steveb9713 Could be, but if there is anything I've learned from this channel and other China watcher channels is that quite a bit of China's problems can be attributed to incompetence. It just ends up looking like malice because of how vehemently the CCP deny any mistakes and missteps.
@@steveb9713 or the lab leak was a red herring and the real origin was bats determined to take over the world hahaha om commands of their master count dracula from the west. Silly ppl. Yes on purpose , its more deadly to non whites so they released it on themselves . Duh Scientists have now found the virus is naturally resent in raccoons which they eat. So dont eat things that are not meant to be eaten. Not the first case of animals passing diseases onto humans Bird flu Swine fever Mad cow disease Foot n mouth disease Rabies
As an ex volunteer fire fighter I know how hard it is to extinguish any car on fire. But also know that lithium spontaneously combusts when exposed to water. That's like fighting fire with fire.
I watched a video of a tesla in Texas that the owner piled books on the seat and sat in the passenger seat and let it drive in autopilot. It autopiloted itself into a tree. It burned and they put I think 21,000 gallons of water on it over 4 hours before it went out
Modern batteries aren't made from lithium. It's cobalt+iron. Which is more safe, I guess. But cutting corners and disregarding safety tasting will account for that inconvenience 😂
There's not a lot of lithium in a lithium battery. That's not the issue. The problem simply is that the battery has all that's needed inside: the fuel, the oxygen, and the ignition source, which means you can't put out the fire until it has internally ran out of one of those. Your goal is just to keep the battery and the surroundings cool enough in order to not let the fire spread while it's using up all its energy.
you might need to mention that the particle fire extinguishers they were using to put out the apartment fire is one of the most expensive extinguishers you can get. They are basically highly compress, super dried sand in extreme pressure. They work by smothering the flame so using them from 4 meters away isn't going to do much for an electrical fire. They would have been better off carrying buckets of sand
In the Netherlands they dipped it in a container full of water. Maybe we should have firefighting methods before we launch electric cars. But that would be too easy.
Isn't the way to fight them just flooding with enough water to cool it and stop the thermal runaway? There's no atmospheric oxygen to smother, it's about just removing the heat energy.
That is absolutely horrifying! The e-bike caught fire while the owner and another man were in the elevator. Fortunately, they were able to escape in time.
So lucky. I am retired FDNY, and it was common for civilians to try to toss out a smoldering chair or mattress, only to have it light up in the elevator from the air flow as it went down
@@josiahr1375 The wealthy would call "a worker bee" to handle anything like that. Sadly with so many "hoods" in NYC that issue was a common problem. More than once the civilians were found dead in the flaming elevator.
@@GF-nm1cl this man is not a chinese person, teiying to scam me and proclaim themselves as genetically superior, so im fine with this. Imagine being acrually so srupid as you are
Just as an added note, my 31 year old petrol car has leaked gasoline in the engine bay for about 3 days until i caught it, and replaced a cracked rubber hose. The point is, that all the petrol what leaked went straight onto the exhaust manifold, what is extremely hot most of the time, and it still didnt catch fire. It evaporated before it could ignite. So remember, things can, and WILL happen, and its pretty important how "bullettproof" is the technology. We are using petrol for over than 100years now.. and it shows.
@@03056932 nah, happened to me again since then, the retainer failed, so it was pouring big time, but again, besides the stink of petrol nothing happened
You may be surprised to learn how many gasoline cars catch fire each year. According to our analysis of data found in the National Fire Protection Association, Reuters, and U.S. fire departments, there are an estimated 284,130 gasoline cars that catch fire every year.
you are extremely lucky, but you will ofcause also cling to that as a proof of fact instead of looking at real data. Actual facts are, that battery cars catch fire much LESS than ice does.
This video was easy to watch...no human suffering. It has been 20 years since I lived in China. Nothing has changed except it has gotten worse. When I was there, Chinese people told me that they preferred Japanese products (not their own domestic products). So I learned...'when in Rome,...' Another good and informative video, Winston.
Middle class and above Mainlanders will not buy local "fresh" produce for fear of being poisoned. They will only buy stuff imported from neighboring countries LOL
As a voluneteer firefighter, EV fires are our worst nightmare. You can't really put them out, as soon as you stop the water, it reignites itself. The strategy is therefore to get a huge container, fill it up with water and throw the burning car inside, where it can stay for up to a month.
German fire fighters say cover it with fireproof blanket, foam, and leave till cool. It is pointless to try to put out with water. That simply causes more electrical shorts, igniting a different battery cell.
@@ps8432 funny enough I am also a German firefighter 😁 guess this varies by Bundesland. We only ever use foam for liquid (fuel) fires. Probably also a good idea though, especially in combination with the blankets, as I am not sure how long our foam lasts, I think only a couple of hours.
Thanks for doing this video. I made a comment a few videos back that a distant relative who's a car dealer was thinking of selling Geely cars in the UK and deep down I felt this was a big mistake.
The safest bet for selling Geely cars are the ones being made by Proton. It appears that when Proton makes them from complete knockdown kits, it is actualy of superior quality compared to ones that actually come from China. By the way, Proton is a complete hit in South Africa at the moment since it sells quite affordable crossovers, the X70 and X50. And while they were designed by Geely, they were built in Malaysia
The reason why Black Cab firms was sold to Geely... WAS because.. they wanted those companies to KEEP the managements.. and to TRAIN those chinese people. But you would NOT expect those chinese people, to THEN... kick out the Western teams.. and then reduce their quality components and raw materials... and then cut costs. Cos MANY firms that are often bought from China.. works like that as well. It has been happening since 1990s !!! Nothing has changed ! Why? Cos that is basically how they operated.. even though SOME firms.. were allowed to actually keep those Western managements.. a lot of them.. were basically squeezed out. And then they will always support or try and educate a chinese management guy, WITHOUT actual physical experiences.. as their managment... This is how it often goes... Rather than to promote the individuals from bottom up.. or like GE to rotate them, so every single employees KNEW the exact step for ALL processes.. They didn't do it like that at all.... The arrogance is too much. And there is no trust between their departments as well. Don't go there is what I say.
@@TheOz91 : It is actually really really sad to read that actually... For Protons to be "higher" quality than Geely. I think Geely owned some of the UK car companies actually. They were sold... Don't tell me that they don't even run their factories properly.... and never HONESTLY call out the mistakes.. don't tell me that they reverted back to some kind of senior-subordinate BS play.... so then they hide their mistakes to cover their asses... Cos that is the least that you would need.. to make such important components...
Battery fires are nasty and very hard to put out, well you don't really as all you do is stop it burning down everything else around it until it has finished reacting.... I keep my solar setup away from the house for that reason and the batteries I use in that are way more stable than those in an EV.
Yes, but outside of China an EV fire is remarkably rare. Only 25 EV fires per 100,000 vehicles vs 1529 per 100,000 for gasoline cars or 3474 per 100,000 for hybrid vehicles. If you include hybrids in the average an EV is over 100 times less likely to catch fire than cars that use gasoline. I'd be willing to surmise you saw plenty more gas fires and hybrid fires than full EV's.
@@GreenDriveIndia Under what circumstance? You're driving a Pinto still? A fire around the EGR system? A short on the tail lights wiring? You will have time to react. With an EV the fire starts under the vehicle, the only thing I can think is comparable is forcing the ICE car to run fuel rich and setting your catalytic converter on fire. Even if you puncture the gasoline tank, you still need an ignition source from somewhere.
Let me say a quick correction and fun fact; you mentioned that you're only carrying half of the energy in the fuel tank in a gasoline car, actually you're only carrying only 1/14th of it. There's something called the "stoichiometric ratio" that determines the amount of gas versus air that need to mix together to complete combustion for a certain fuel or chemical. For gasoline it's 14.7 parts air to 1 part fuel.
But when it burns or explodes the whole energy is released unless you drive in vacuum. Actually amount of energy in batteries is way lower than in a typical tank of gas (combustion engine is quite inefficient for vehicles propulsion but energy density of the fuel is way higher than the battery).
@@1funnygame 'so probably a bit lower than that' No, it isn't lower than that. 1 gallon of gasoline burns against roughly 9000 gallons of air by volume, 20% of that is the oxygen. The 14.7:1 is by mass. That very large flow per gallon of gas is why having clean air filters is so important.
Example: Tesla Model Y long range has 75kWh battery, fully charged goes about 400km. My car: each liter of gas 13kWh of energy, I fill up 30l which is 490kWh of energy and it can make about 500km on it. Energy and efficiency equations is heavily favorable to EV’s. I don’t know about BYD but a regular top quality EV is statistically very unlikely to catch a fire compared to a combustion engine vehicle. Fires look scary but they are happening so often nobody is reporting on ICE cars fires anymore, EV’s are novelty as everyone needs to see their narrative confirmed and media is here to fulfill the demand.
It's both actually. Electrical fires are something chemical burning, like the wiring or the gunk inside a battery. I know what you meant. Lithium metal burns a bit like magnesium does and it hates water.
Before the internal atomic energy battery explode the car goes up in flame so to avoid a small nucelar explosion like in the terminator movie, in the movie the terminator did remove the battery by himself but customers isnt allowed to change or remove anything from their EVs so the car have to go up in flames and self destruct.
We have Chinese EV's on the road in the UK. They are branded "MG", but that's just a badge now for SAIC. Not heard about fires yet. Perhaps they are a little more careful about the ones they export?
@@GAZZA55 You obviously haven't owned one. MY MG ZT sports auto (Made in England) was 22 years old when I grudgingly sold it. Never missed a beat! I hear it's still going strong. I miss it so much, I'm thinking of buying it back! I must admit though, the Chinese MG I swapped it for is just as good. 8 years old and has never let me down.
I remember when getting my license to drive forklifts, when we covered electric lifts, the instructor telling us, "You're sitting on top of a bomb." That was 20 years ago btw! Yes, batteries are explosive AF if something goes wrong. The same applies to EVs as well.
I drove a propane fork lift, and in my training got the same speech. These are heavy compact machines, with exposed parts, and an exposed driver, moving things that can fall, and regularly put in really weird and awkward situations. Doesn't matter if it is compressed air, propane, or batteries, they are WAY more dangerous than driving a car... And also a heck of a lot more fun to drive!
little addition, these aren't electrical fires, these are metal fires that start out as a shortcircuit in the components. in fact Metal fires are even more dangerous than electrical fires
“Metal fires” (at room temperature purified lithium, potassium, and sodium are metallic) and *damn near impossible* to extinguish-like trying to stop a thermite reaction
@@drcovell exactly, and alot of phosphor munitions are outlawed because of their hazardous nature, and unpredictable outcomes when used. not to mention the amount of aluminium mold explosions and deaths
When li-ion batteries go into thermal runaway they produce their own oxygen as a by product of the chemical thermal breakdown. That is why its so hard to put out an EV battery fire, even with a foam extinguisher. You have to let it burn itself out.
So imagine this scenario in the future. Whole bunch of electric cars are parked in a parking garage that's attached to a large building. One cheep Chinese made car starts on fire it burns itself, and then the fire spreads to another, then the next one catches to another and so on untill eventually the entire building has been engulfed in raging hot flames in mere minutes. Thanks China! Many many many people all killed in said hypothetical situation because we couldn't stop China from building crap and we didn't learn how to extinguish an EV battery fire fast and efficient.
30 seconds? It wouldnt take me more than 2-4 seconds (depending on the type of pants im wearing) to get out of my car. 30seconds is more than enough time. I could probably light the cigarette on the flames, smoke it, and then get out of the car before 30seconds lmao. Try harder
My sister lives in Ft.Myers, FL. After the hurricane, EVs that got flooded were spontaneously combusting in driveways. After being extinguished by the fire dept., they would re-ignite. If near a house, they would destroy it. I think I'll stick with evil gasoline, thank you.
Those were the poorly built ones. People buy Tesla batteries out of flooded cars all the time... All the electrics should be well sealed off from water ingress in any reasonably well built EV.
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 100% the actual quality and quality control are a major issue here, gasoline powered cars have been known to spontaneously combust too if poorly built or poorly maintained. We've had EVs in my small city for years now but the only car we've seen explode and melt itself down in the last couple years was a new, gasoline powered, Ford Mustang, still took so long to put out it melted the engine block to useless scrap
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Electrical fire from battery source is almost impossible to put out while the battery still has power in it. They don't need as much oxygen as a regular fire
The heaters are impressive... In wintertime you'll be in your toasty living room calling the fire department for your high end Chinese luxury vehicle in roaring flames out on the street. (hopefully not in your garage)
I spent some time in battery work. I won't touch full electric vehicles until they're all solid state batteries. Let me explain. The reason you see explosions in batteries are often because of internal shorting. Almost all of these batteries have liquid electrolytes with solid electrodes. As you cycle a battery like this over and over again, you get something called a solid electrolyte layer on the surface. Eventually, the crystallised electrolyte starts to grow branching needle-like crystals called dendrites, which eventually find their way to each other. If the dendrites originate on the same electrode, that's pretty harmless. But if the dendrites from two different electrodes meet, you short the battery, which at best makes the battery useless, and at worst, well you've seen the explosions. A lot of very smart people are trying to solve the dendrite problem in liquid batteries, because it is a worthwhile cause. But you can avoid the issue entirely with solid state electrolytes. Because the electrode and electrolyte are in the same phase of matter, you won't get issues of recrystallisation and dendrite-driven shorting. The battery is going to be heavier, and as of now, more expensive, but the longevity, the capacity, the safety, and the efficiency of energy conversion, are all much higher. I'm happy to answer questions about this, if anyone has any. This is a topic I am deeply passionate about.
My question would be why you chose to talk nonsense because statistically EVs are a lot less likely to catch fire than gassers. Or at least those made by Western standards.
@@tellyboy17 First of all, I don't like you telling me that I'm talking nonsense when this is a legitimate problem in the battery industry. Second, the larger your liquid state battery, the more potential nucleation sites you have for dendrites. The greater your charging capacity and discharge rate are, the faster these dendrites may be able to form. With small batteries, your charging capacity and discharge rates are quite low, so the physical size and low power operation zone aren't huge concerns. But as you get bigger, the risk increases. And with something like a car, you should absolutely be concerned. I understand that this could also be partially a result of my paranoia from working in the field, the same way as a software engineer would about datamining, or a civil engineer would about bridges and buildings. But at the same time, these aren't matters you take lightly
@@me0101001000 ..and yet you will jump in your gas car without giving it a second thought, despite the fact that ~170K of those burn to crisp each year in the US alone.
The problem with reverse engineering is that you don't understand why somethings are in place. To save a few pennies those little things get removed. This is the result of not understanding the technology they are stealing.
BYD does its own research. BYD electric buses are being used without problems. ALL electric cars , yes Tesla too, have a battery overheat problem. This causes them to catch fire.
@@ruudkreuger9212 Well, its likely more of an issue in China due to quality control. People working assembly lines in China are probably paid less than a retail worker in the US working a register.
@@ruudkreuger9212go to like 14:30, he talks about buses too maybe buses have a bit more of the safety features or maybe it's just buses have less chances
The fire brigade in Germany stores electric cars that have caught fire in a water-filled container for two days after they have been extinguished with foam. However, these are mainly vehicles from Tesla, which are most widespread in Germany.
I was actually going to write that. I saw a video of a American fire chief saying they've had electric cars reignite out of nowhere days after being extinguished. That only submersion in water or complete battery depletion stops this from happening. He also said that electrical vehicles require exponentially more resources to deal as they not only pose a fire risk but an electrocution risk as well.
Same for Austrian Fire-fighters, they have made some containers to haul the EV's into and submerge them for a month before giving them over to recycle. It hadn't been many that where burning, I only know of 2 Teslas that caught fire after crashes.
A bus in my hometown caught fire. Luckily the driver spotted it straight away and got out immediately, it was ablaze within 30 seconds. Very luckily he had no passengers on as he was finishing his shift. Nothing in even the local press!
@@DataGeek903 Yes, but right now sparesly utilized in the cars cause of lower energy density. I think the cheaper Tesla models can use them and BYD lamellar batteries are Lifepo. I am not sure though. But if you buy a portable powerbank (you know the AC ones) most reputable brands are tranistioning to Lifepo, also because you can do a lot more cycles before having to recycle the battery
Just discovered your channel. Though I don’t speak the language I have traveled in China in 2010, 2015, and 2017. Your experience validates my own. Thank you.
If you think that a thousand fires burning for a couple of hours will produce more pollution than a billion cars running for years you have no grasp of reality whatsoever.
Add that to the greater pollution of producing them in the first place and the strip mining in Africa to get the lithium and other rare earth minerals needed to make them in the first place.
I was at a major shopping centre in Melbourne Australia with my son and while walking past a BYD demo car parked in the middle of the walkway, my son asks if this car is Chinese. I tell him, while in earshot of the sales lady standing next to the car, in a louder than normal voice, "yes, it's a crappy Tesla knockoff from China". The sales lady heard it, and dejectedly nodded while trying not to piss herself laughing. Even the sales people don't have any faith in these crap heaps.
@@Camulus11 You do of course realise Tesla is not Chinese designed. It's manufactured under the strict control of Tesla, which is not Chinese. The main issue with crap coming out of China is when it's Chinese designed. Try again bot.
@@MasterCommander. Gas cars are many times more likely to catch fire per mile driven. BYD has pouch cells and poor cooling. Just get a Tesla. Ford, VW and Toyota have publicly stated that they are far Behind Tesla's engineering and manufacturing.
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Gotta remember that quality control for export markets is gonna be much higher than for the local market, because if there are serious issues like this in the foreign market, that's a severe loss of face to the Chinese (which is why they'll find someone else, preferably a foreigner, to blame). Also gotta point out that many of these cars shown caught fire whilst being charged, so it's also possible the chargers are at fault, but then I'd hope that the EV cuts off the charging before the car catches fire. We're also seeing BYD EVs in NZ, yet so far, there's been no reports of them fire and I haven't see stories from UK with them having these problems, so it might be a more China-centric issue. Not that I'd ever buy a Chinese car and I'm not buying an EV with current battery tech any time soon.
Awesome show. This reminds me of a footage I once saw. It was in a EV dealership where a supposedly authorized Tesla salesman tells his customers in Chinese NOT to buy the Tesla because it is very "unreliable" and expensive. I am wondering now if his customer did purchase the Chinese brand he promoted instead.
That's a common tactic isn't it? Chinese people working for foreign companies actually trying to sabotage the company they work for and trying to help out other Chinese companies
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These EVs are making it to America because in the last year there's been an influx of Chinese citizens coming into the country illegally and sometimes they're coming from Canada and sometimes they're coming from Mexico but many of them are driving through the desert
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The "wheel falling off" part almost sounds like an antitheft measure from Mr. Bean.
15:05
China's "highspeed rail" BRI project in Massachusetts constantly catches fire.
20 years and it's still not complete. It needs National attention and shaming to shut down.
"East/west rail" is a money pit.
@@wisdomleader85That's only because it's a intro model the more expensive ones comes with a detachable steering wheel that you can take with you that's the complete Mr.Bean model 😜
Nailed it. As you’ve said before, once you’ve lived in China for a while, you realize they just chabuduo the **** out of everything. My “luxury” apartment in Beijing looked amazing… for the first few months. It’s only after you’ve lived there for a while that you realize the wood paneling is just stickers, the kitchen sink is only held on with caulk, and the granite flooring in your bedroom starts to crack and break apart because they never leveled the subfloor and used spackel instead of grout. If they’ll cut corners when making baby formula to earn a few extra bucks, then why would it be any different for an EV?
Face culture leads to danger and disappointment, I guess
We get stunning luxury Chinese car brands here in South Africa. At 75% of established brand's prices. After a few short years these Chinese brands disappear, and a few new brands appear. So no parts, no service.
They cut corners on the stuff they build for their own people. Imagine the corners they would cut on a car they are selling in the US?
stop lying you don't live in China ... and your describing furniture used in America low housing.
@@Joker-Leto How much is the CCP paying you to comment?
From internal combustion engine to spontaneous combustion batteries, what a marvel of technological progress!
ICE fires can be extinguished relatively easily. EV fires can burn for days.
It's their new weapon. 😱
Thank Elon
nearby a Porsche (ICE) burned completely and the cars next to it i doubt the owner cared that it was put out faster xD
Ok but the other hundreds / thousands of people driving or walking on the road care
The wild thing is, none of these were accidents, they were all just charging or driving normally. These are massive quality control issues. I work on smart phones and smart devices and know firsthand that you can't mess with Lithium batteries. The thermal runaway will just continue until the energy is used.
They are not even driving at max speed in the highway, the roads are all flat and well maintained, the batteries should not be bumped around and they should not overheat. this is peak clownery.
Nice Futurama Pic
how do you work on smartphones with those claws?
You work with pouch cells, not blade or cylindrical..
1 cell of 4600 shorting should be unnoticeable, as each is fused. Not all packs are equal, they are vastly different.
What do ppl expect smh
The company I used to work at provided testing facilities for the automotive industry, batteries included. The battery tests were conducted in armored, reinforced cargo containers for safety.
And around a year ago, a battery actually blew up inside one of them. The explosion was violent enough to rip the reinforced door out of the frame and yeet it several meters away. There even were some blow-out panels installed, but the pressure of the explosion was just too much for them to handle.
Most of those blast-proof enclosures are rated for X amount of pounds of TNT, so if a battery explosion blew it up, the amount of energy behind it must've been insane.
Bigger battery, bigger boom.
Should go over well with truckers. They have huge battery cells.
yeah look at those ev bikes exploding like hell indoor! They just don't stop exploding
So your company didn't design a safety system with a high factor of safety? Because a proper company would have over-engineered a safety system with redundancies but I mean I guess.
These EV‘s are giving the term internal combustion a whole new meaning.
I'd rather have an internal combustion engine , than an external combustion engine
@@joelstanhope7231 Gas cars do both! EVs have neither...
Going to be renamed intended combustion engines and unintentional combustion engines
Spontaneous combustion technology
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 : EV's take 20 minutes to fill and 20 hours to burn out.
I stayed in a Chinese built apartment block in Kenya. It looked like a unmaintained 20 year old building in the UK. Electrics tripping, paint peeling, damp, leaks, broken glass and everything was super low quality. It was in a shocking state and was 2 years old!
To think some people actually believe China won't only do the cheapest bottom of the barrel construction projects possible for their African "allies".
Hmm tofu dreg building
All part of the plan as they can re-build it on year 5 and boost the GDP numbers. Horrible strategy for the environment.
Ramen quality
U wonder what Kenyan government sold the chines to get such a great deal. Was it an airport, was it mineral rights or was it a land for future military build up.
Made In China really means Remain In China
People with Thomas The Tank Engine obsession comments don't really count buddy....
@@markmark5269people with china obsession comment don't count bud
Most of the electrical things u own will be made in China or the internal parts made in China
@@boyasaka Imagine the OP's house if everything made in China was removed as he requires ....
@@markmark5269 it would be empty
So China invented a flashy EV version of the Ford Pinto that self ignites, no collision in the rear necessary, as a key feature. Hopefully it has other great features like an "all static" AM radio, automatic ejector seats that launch upon collision, self-shredding transmission, motor oil fountain, and auto flattening tires.
IT'S A FEATURE!
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All-static LOL! 😂 And it shocks you too!!!
Accident free experiences here, Why are we complaining? FREE is FREE is FREE!!!!
Take it and run... . . . . . . . . ...AWAY from ALL EV’s!!
The new "onboard crematory" feature was added to address the formerly long waiting times in funeral homes.
The convenience factor is outstanding!
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I nearly had a urine accident by laughing😂😂
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For those that love their cars and want to take them into the afterlife.
The billion dollar battery recall by Hyundai and GM was caused by the Chinese plant where LG Chem was building the batteries.
Batteries built by LG outside China were ok, but all the batteries built in China had to be replaced because of a manufacturing defect
GM has such a great reputation.. China is killing these good companies... This is absolutely absurd !!!.... Chi sin. It takes around a good 5 years to train a low level manager.... The pay is similar regardless of levels.. but the importance is actually the qualities. And they even rate them on performances by being truthful...
"defect", lol! Chabuduo more likely.
No way! The Chinese cutting safety measures for profit? Say it isn't so.
@@monty4336 for profit? It would be half more acceptable if it were for profit. Instead, it is mere laziness.
imagine how pollutant all these batteries are. And the poor slaves mining for the batteries; all wasted. burned.
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Now that's a spot on
I know I'm pretty late but GODDAMN that motorcycle in the elevator had me absolutely mortified for those two... I can't imagine the horror of knowing that thing IS going to explode at ANY moment, you can see the panic setting in on those two poor people...
@connorelliott7881 Nightmare is right.
Stupid is as stupid does
Who the fuck takes a scooter into a lift
Yup, the worst possible scenario.
What gets me on a lot of these, are the jets of flame shooting out. It's not just the vehicle itself, but a threat to other vehicles and even people around them.
The radiant heat from one electric car is sufficient to break the seal on the battery in another electric car parked next to it, creating a chain reaction of igniting cars. It will be very exciting to see when a parking structure is full of enough of these for the whole thing to go off.
@@Miyuki2319 So like GTA? lol
Unfortunately telsa has this problem too. I'm obviously not justifying anything. It's just something to be aware of.
That happened because of covid. Spontaneous combustion. Official CCP disclosure. Lock down all the serfs in response.
That's Molten Lithium and alumium holy S*7t.
This is why Japanese automakers are "behind" in the EV game. They have to make sure that the technology they're putting in their cars actually WORKS, instead of, you know, catching fire.
Toyota is developing Hydrogen electric technology because they see it as more viable than batteries. Once Toyota brings an EV to the US and its been out a few years, I might consider getting one.
@@wes773105333 the BZ4X is a solid first attempt by Toyota imo. People complain about the range and all but, who actually drives more than 200 miles on a daily basis?
@Hycoperosity most ev's exposed to the same conditions would catch fire. There is a reason they're starting to ban them from ships.
@@wes773105333 Their first EV had to be recalled because the wheels fall off. Toyota head of engineering recently said they tore down a Model Y and is saying Tesla engineering and manufacturing is lightyears above Toyota... A "symphony of engineering and manufacturing" is a quote. So far Ford, VW and Toyota have said that they are far behind Tesla in technology and manufacturing...
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 And Yet its mostlyTesla's that have caught on fire in the west
Dude, my Chinese made shaving machine blew up whilst being charged for the very first time. It literally blew up, and I didn’t even get to use it, not even once. That’s $70 down the drain. My previous German-made (Braun)shaving machine, lasted from 2009-2022.
Chinese made hand grenade cleverly disguised as a shaving machine!
(After stealing your money, they didn't want to leave any witnesses behind!)
Good it didn't go in self destruction mode while on use on your head 😂😂😂
Why did you even bought a Chinese one anyway?
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Better for it blow up charging than while it’s on your face
This is why I'm very wary about Chinese made Bluetooth ear buds. The thought of the battery exploding or catching fire in my ear is scary.
head in the sand much ya ostrich pmsl
Ah crap now you got me thinking about
@@jlleibold1974 source ? Proof ?
Kindly share ncap ratings
Most of Sony ear buds are Made in Malaysia.
@@letitiaprincess1125 nope . From china
The self heating feature looks pretty cool. Maybe not in summer.
Such a nasty comment, I like it :p
Useful for some barbecuin' as well!
@@cheecharron1244 China is expected to have food rationing shortly. ''Long pork'' might be the way to go, especially since most of the organs have already been removed, and they have millions in jails ready to be ''harvested''.
@@LostCylon you're encouraging the Chinese courts to hand out more death sentence
@@LostCylon To any " real " cannibal , " long pork " is symbolic of human flesh !
When I was a child I wanted a big house like in American movies, with a big garage integrated. Now with all these EVs I want my garage to be a free-standing structure at least 10 meters away.
you should always want your garage to be freestanding and NOT at the front of the house Attached garages (at the front of the house) are a result of poor design and building practices starting in the early 70's.
@@hamyncheese Yes but convenient when there is bad weather and cold outside :)
@@randomnik70 Also much safer from criminals.
Just park your car in the swimming pool.
@@V100-e5q water is not effective at stopping lithium battery fires. So believe it or not even parking your car in the swimming pool wouldn’t stop the battery from overheating soon as you take the car out of the water it would combusting fire. Don’t believe me Google how much water is necessary to put out an EV fire 🔥
Stick with me for a moment while I explain something. I used to import computer mice, I mean by the container load. We would start by ordering some samples which we tested and noted the components. Satisfied that they worked we would order an initial batch of 3,000 pieces. When they arrived we would test those mice but guess what, the internals were nothing like the samples that we signed off. Sure they looked the same and they also worked but when confronted the factories response was "what's your problem, they are the same thing. We use other components when there's a short supply". This video 100% explains the truth about Chinese manufacturing, it's like an ants nest of small companies supplying bigger ones and they will take short cuts without you knowing. I don't know why you electric reviewers out there keep banging on about their design, their construction and their reliability? It's all smoke and mirrors.
This is why the EU and the USA is keep saying things like "go green"... as in..."take the rubbish from china and start manufacturing to create a better quality item " etc.... THAT is what they are saying now. Some people have started to do just that. Others not so much...
it's pretty much known the chinese worship wealth and will screw you over for it
Yeh I bought a cheap wireless mice the shit would keep losing signal and freeze was a chineese one
Why iPhones made in China have no such problems?
Any chance money talks? He who pays calls!
My experience is, Walmart merchandisers mandates product tiers to the market, product life related to target customer groups with targeted enduser price !
Sometimes engineered for shorter product life, even pay for higher exfactory price.
@@wilsonh9145
*That is different, so different that idk if your just playing dumb or not !*
Apple does not *F Around* & They *Sure As F* Don’t Let The 🇨🇳 *Chinese* 🇨🇳 Manufacturers / *COMPONENT ASSEMBLERS F AROUND* , They of Course Had to Learn THIS the Hard Way, But They Did Learn !
*Only Two Companies* Are *ALLOWED* To Manufacture IPhones -
⚫️ *PEGATRON*
- *&* -
⚫️ *FOXCONN*
*BOTH* of These Companies Are 🇹🇼 *TAIWANESE* 🇹🇼 *Owned & Operated !¡!*
*NEVERMIND THE FACT* That Many of The (Critical, Sensitive, & Delicate) Components Are *Pre-Fabricated* & Then Sent to These Companies For Additional Manufacturing & *ASSEMBLY* ! ~~~
*NO* , The Important Point Is That These 🇹🇼 *TAIWANESE* 🇹🇼 Companies Know *EXACTLY* What They Are Doing & What Needs To Be Done.
On Top of ThIS Is That - They Know *EXACTLY* What The Mainlanders Are Like, Exactly What BS They Will Try To Pull if Given Half A Chance, & *EXACTLY* How To Keep Their 🇨🇳 *Chinese* 🇨🇳 Employees *IN LINE, UNDER THEIR THUMB, & UNABLE TO CAUSE HARM UNDER SUCH TIGHT CONTROL !¡!*
⚫️ *SO DON’T PLAY DUMB !¡! THE ONLY REASON THEIR ISN’T TROUBLE IN THAT PARTICULAR INDUSTRY & A FEW OTHERS, IS BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDER TIGHT CONTROL, SURVEILLANCE, & HAVE STRICT OVERSEERS WHO ARE BASICALLY PRISON GUARDS PROTECTING THE COMPANY FROM THESE SHIESTY, SHADY, & CORRUPT* 🇨🇳 *CHINESE* 🇨🇳 *!!! ¡¡¡ !!!*
👁🗨 *You Know It & I Sure As 5H1T Know It, & If You a truly Did Not Know at his Grim Reality, Then NOW YOU DO !¡!*
➖ *They Can NOT Be Trusted. So The* 🇨🇳 *CHINESE* 🇨🇳 *Employees Require* 🇹🇼 *Taiwanese* 🇹🇼 *Overseers, Guards, & Basically As An Internal Police For The Factory z owners !l!*
😆😂🤣 🇨🇳 *CHINESE* 🇨🇳 *Can’t Even Be Trusted As Guard Dogs Against Their Fellow Countrymen Because They Are The Type To Raid The HenHouse !l! ¡¡¡ !!! HA-HA-HA !¡! ¡!¡ !¡!* 🤣😂😆
Safety tip: stay upwind of a lithium battery fire. The smoke is seriously toxic. In an enclosed space, don't try to fight the fire - you'll fail - just get outside.
Last time I was near a Tesla Model 3 fire, I accidentally caught a breath of the smoke and had trouble breathing for a week afterwards. Even if you're downwind, the smell permeates through the air and stinks like a power station fire.
The biggest problem is that even when you constantly lower the temperature of the fire with water the shorted battery will continue to discharge rapidly until it simply cannot any more. And heat will probably fuse together more and more parts of the battery until everything is shorted. My god imagine a mass crash in a tunnel in a world with the majority being electric cars that would be absolutely deadly.
Few years ago a diesel car started to burn in Norwegian airport parking hall. Several gas tanks exploded destroying that section of parking hall. Several EVs burned, but not a single battery burned. Accident in a tunnel full of EVs would much less serious than with gas cars. Hydrogen cars would make it much worse.
You just made a very sobering point. That would be a very nasty domino effect.
@@jkn6644 EVs with safer batteries would. But in China they use the least safe chemistries.
Those chemistries emit oxygen gas in significant quantities when they burn, so the graphite and metal electrodes also catch fire. Metal+graphite fire is no joke!
@@adamrak7560 there is no safer battery
Gasoline burns more easily and you are most likely carrying 2-3 times more energy in the gasoline than in the battery. I would be far more worried about such a crash happening with gas cars. Much more likely to spread from car to car with the explosive flames from gasoline vs heat but mostly contained for batteries.
The thing is, it's not just an electrical fire. It's a metal fire. The metals in the battery actually catch fire. You do not want to mess around with metal fires. They are insanely intense.
The lithium in the batteries are turning moisture in the air into Lithium Hydroxide, Hydrogen gas, and heat. The Lithium itself doesn't ignite, but it produces a whole lot of good fuel.
@@ctpctp The lithium is undergoing a thermal reaction to produce lithium hydroxide. In laymen's terms, it's burning. It's going to be distinction without a difference when your entire car, including the frame, is on fire.
Sounds like riding around inside an electric arc furnace. 🤔
@@ctpctp Sure does.
An the colbolt in fire fumes a creature from hell.Any skin contact can cause a semi permanent disabling effect and a major danger to first res ponders.
I was on the firefighting team as part of my job on a ferry in 2021-22. Our gravest fear was having an EV catch fire on the car deck, as we wouldn’t be able to extinguish it, despite having the newest high-fog, foaming agents, and enormous fire pumps. We would always park them by the ramp, joking that they’d go overboard if they caught fire (impossible btw). Thankfully never happened and the company no longer allows EVs onboard.
actually here in europe they just put in them in container filled with water and wait for about 2 weaks .....
@@amduser86 The amount of stupidity around the EV Religion is insane.
@@wandameadows5736 to the point where countries are banning the sale of other vehicles in the near future. Can't see any problems there in terms of incentive to solve the problem.
Denmark is able to deal with EV as they have Fully Electric Ferries, Ellen, Norway , Sweden.
Hi, so best not park it in an internal garage then?
I have a fireman friend and he told me these electric cars are ridiculously hard to put out, the degrees at which they burn is incredible compared to regular fires..He said water barely works..They need to find something that can put these fires out quickly
How about fossil fuels instead? Those actually WORK
The thing is, there's barely anything flammable inside a car, so for it to catch fire it must be incredibly hot. And the temperature rises due to the energy from the battery, so you can't put it out, it just heats up again until it runs out of charge.
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 I would not recommend fossil fuels to put out the fires...
😂😂😂@@r.gelmers6580
I sometimes work in tunnels here in Europe. In general, only diesel-fueled vehicles are allowed inside the tunnel as diesel doesn't ignite as much as gasoline; and this is also the reason why especially EVs are NOT allowed inside a tunnel under construction.
That's really interesting bro thanks your your insight
I remember that horrible Mont Blanc Tunnel Fire. I can imagine they don’t want to repeat that.
We would use diesels powered by propane in tight spaces. It produces much less exhaust.
Diesel is also very fuel saving too.
@@garryli2030there is synthetic ,and it works very well ,
the horizontal flame thrower mode is quite impressive. I heard they had primitive propane versions of those as carjacker deterrents in Johannesburg, but those were intentional and only worked in small bursts.
Seen those too, lol.
Some great vids of flame fried SA thugs. Funny shit, asses on fire and their heads are catching, swatting themselves like they're dancing the macarena🎆 LOL
Wonder how much the subscription for flame thrower mode is? 🤔
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -------------
How I miss them olde days, when everything worked in S. A. Hahaa... I would absolutely loved to see them flame throwers back in action.. Hah
I see what you’re saying... the BYD camper van deploys it’s own campfire when you arrive at the camp ground, and it’s wind & rain resistant :D
No good for marshmallows tho....
@@teebosaurusyou because you'll be the marshmallow
@@mozzarellamaniac6300 "giggles"
The older Tesla from 2012-2013 also catch on fire but when Tesla heard about that, they put a massive titanium cover to protect the battery and a really big fan to help the battery cool down when overheat! Chinese brand don't have these!!!!
no the chinese fans are crap as well.
I overheard a Chinese man ask about a certain Japanese brand and where it's products are made. When the employee said made in China the Chinese man left. 😂
😂😂😂🙏🙏🙏
That man has seen some things
LOL.... I mean.. I recently bought a VERY old... brand of malt sugar.. even THAT was SO diluted it was surreal?!!?! I bet that, some small local companies have been bought out a lot... and then asset stripped to the point that.. they use those companies and those money to fill in their glorified projects or whatever. I bet that this is what had been going on. Cos I cannot for the life of me think... why isn't these malt sugar tastes as strong any more. I bet it is one of those "I will dilute one single real one,into 10 fake ones to sell on Amazon".... kind of sh!tty scam. People are way too obsessed with money these days... It's just... sigh...
There must be a limit to nonsense, a pitiful person living under the media that takes out of context and smears China
cant wait to have these evs in Australia. they should compliment our bushfire seasons
Not many there yet? They are starting to become almost common here in Canada and I live in a small isolated city. Only started to see them locally maybe two years ago now I see one at least once a day
We in Finland are Lucky.
They started selling those here.
😂😂😂
yes and in south Europe
Have you been cold this winter ???
Consumer: The car catches fire.
Company: We are working to solve this.
Consumer: The air bags don't go off.
Company: To address the issue of our cars catching fire, we have disabled the air bags to increase your chances of being ejected from the vehicle. We've determined that this is a safer alternative to burning alive.
Sounds like a splendid 5 year plan comrade😀
What about a fire extinguisher as optional !?! 😂😂😂😂😂
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They aren't wrong.
Tofu Dreg Batteries 🤣😂🤣😂😅
I was considering buying an electric bike, but then I started to hear about those things just bursting into flames, and since I'd be keeping it in my garage, that means if it caught fire, it would burn down our house, maybe at night with me and the missus asleep. I gave up the idea and just got a normal 21 speed bike for our mountain roads. The fact that manufacturers AND the media are keeping this quiet is not only disgusting, it's potential murder.
I hear ya. My bike is 3 x 8....and I only ever use 8 gears on flat ground.
Well loads of those reports are extremely overblown. If one e-bike catches on fire it will make national news, while a gasoline car fire will barely even make the local news. In reality they're extremely safe, and all of the electric bikes that *have* caught fire have always been home-built ones or super cheap Chinese ones bought from sites like Wish.
As a former Base Fire Officer in the Australian military, I am gobsmacked at these well meaning but silly people standing so close to burning cars, with the very real possible of a massive explosion or burning liquid electrolyte under pressure, shooting out from under the car, engulfing everything, and every one, in its path...🐼🐼
Forgive them. Just 30 years ago those well meaning but silly people were totally unfamiliar with any other transportation technology than their government-issued black bicycle.😉
I think part of it comes down to ignorance on their part; they don't realize how dangerous it is to stand that close. Another part is that outside the West many people seem to care less about safety in general. They're way more accepting of danger even when they know fully well how dangerous something is.
Google the BYD Blade Battery puncher test aka they drill trhoug the battery and ZERO FIRE....
Not to mention the toxic smoke
Imagine the toxicity of the smoke
There is a saying in Hindi (🇮🇳) about Chinese stuff in India i.e "Chala to Chand taak nhi to saam taak" which translates to 'If it works, It will work till the distance of moon (Basically if luck favours, The Chinese stuff will work for years) but if its fails, It will work till evening'. 😂😂. Very apt. explanation.
Proudly made in China
Hahaha well said brother... Bilkul sahi dialogue hai
Indeed, and I first heard the term “‘export quality” used in south Asian to describe Chinese products. It turns out the Chinese junk we get the in US - export quality - is far better than the stuff they sell domestically. Now if you excuse me, I’m gonna go watch a movie on my Pony brand TV.
@@ClockworksOfGL export quality was a thing in all of the so called communist states. When you were bribing your doctor to give you the treatment you were technically guaranteed by law, the ones most likely to ensure you got a decent treatment were packs of real coffee smuggled from Germany, jeans, or export quality clothes. They were so much better than the domestic ones it wasn't even funny.
@@ClockworksOfGL wdym chinese junk, apple, tesla and a bunch of other companies all produce their products in China
The front end damage distorting the door and cab of the BYD in the multiple car accident is EXTREMELY concerning for anyone who knows even a little bit about the impact safety testing done on new vehicles, especially when the airbags failed too.
if the airbags wont deploy its a failed test and the car is not allowed to be sold here locally, that in the one if not one of the top requirements to get a ok to be sold
Tesla showed a video of crash tested vehicle that you could sill open and close the door. Meaning of course the crash had very little impact on the passenger cabin. BYD or any chinese car brand will never be sold in the US.
@@donm2255 Everything you said is true but BYD won't be sold in the US because of politics. BYD is meeting safety requirements and starting to sell cars in Europe, Australia and other western area's. Sure they won't be as safe as Tesla's but most cars aren't. BYD certainly has a way to go but their cars have gotten significantly better over the years.
@@Ryan-ff2db Or perhaps, they are selling in Europe and Australia because of politics.
@@JohnSmith-wx9wj Or lack there of, but whatever the reasons, they will need to pass the same regulations as everyone else. BYD is selling at significantly lower prices than other EV's and even lower than ICE vehicles in some cases. If they can pass safety regulations and politics in western countries they will gain a huge market share. Then again those are "ifs"
Thanks for sharing!
When I was in China, the taxi fleet had been upgraded in about the last 5 years, with similar aged Toyotas. VWs, BYDs and some Suzuki vehicles. I would actively avoid the BYD's as they were totally clapped out, was incredible how quickly they disintegrated in comparison to the other marques.
Reminds me of a friend I had in Italy. He bought a brand new Tata pickup (Tacoma clone basically) and it fell apart straight away. It wasn't even six months old and it had nasty electrical gremlins and surprisingly broad mechanical issues. Parts were just popping off; go to roll down the window and the winder would end up in your hand lol-
@@mer9706 The stories I could tell you about Tatas!
And the next biggest problem after buying your Tata is getting mechanics to fix it without making the car another 5 years older because of the damage they would do!
@@mechpatt LMAO
you must not came to China over 10 years， now BYD sells more than Toyota， Suzuki？ i am sorry it has quit Chinese market。
笑死掉
Nice to see EV's saving the planet and reducing pollution.
This was an advert for why electric cars in their current state will never be successful. Just imagine a shopping centre car park full with electric cars. The whole block would have to be evacuated
lol
The quality inspectors be like there is some fire but its within the allowed fire limit
Nice swimming pool baths left over from extraction. 😂😂😂😂. Mother Nature retaliating😂😂😂
It's the thought that counts.
In the Netherlands there are communal underground garages where it is not allowed to park EVs. That in response to a serious fire caused by a T....A where at least 50 other cars were completely burned out.
A disaster just waiting to happen
And the useful dummies who worship Tesla would say "See... ICE cars are 50x more likely to catch fire!"
a fire that big could endanger the building itself. the thing could collapse and have it kill loads of people.
@@richardmeo2503 not necessarily. Only the cheapskate companies like tesla are really prone to that
So you can park there with hunderds of litres of gasoline but cant park there with EV? Sounds logical.
Good to see Chinese manufacturing is still at high quality levels.
The explode on purpose it's all part of the plan..... Sodium batteries don't burn but they won't use them because that's part of the plan.....
@@JonySmith-bb4gx Jealous of what exactly?
you're a bot, in every comment @@JonySmith-bb4gx
Jealous of Tofu cars & Tofu everything ha.ha.❤ u both 🇹🇼 & 🇭🇰🎉🎉
Agreed 😂
It’s unfortunate that byd cars are being sold here in India
Yes, especially cause this will lead to improper disposal of battery materials
All electric cars have this problem and they are not as green as they say, all the materials for the bat'teries are not recycled, toxic and only last 5 to 10 years before you need to replace and discard the whole set. (Also very expensive to replace battery set).
@@robertjohnston8690 yea I think hydrogen may be the future
russia too
indians love buying cheap chinese crap, you need to take a stance!
Once the battery is in thermal runaway, the battery produces oxygen and heat through a chemical reaction that then produces flame. It can be submerged in water and still not be extinguished. It can be put in a vacuum and still burn. The batteries needs to burn completely before the fire is considered extinguished. Water is used to cool it while it burns.
Interesting. Thanks for succinct explanation.
They should adapt and bring more more water with EVs burning
@@Comradpetito in fact water helps lithium batteries to burn, you'll need a fire extinguisher for that specifically
but the best picture where the car loses its entire rear axle with the wheels, how cool is that?
hmm...someone should tell the dopey climate activists blocking up the roads about this! Doesn't sound very environmentally friendly. Like those windmills that kill thousands and thousands of birds.
I remember hearing as a kid we would all be driving Chinese cars. My dad would rub the tailfin on his old Thunderbird and say you might, but I wouldn't. Being an engineer, and working for a Chinese company he said there quality controls were terrible, and apparently there has been no improvement and my dad did this contract like 25 years ago back in the late 90s
Their software practices aren't much better actually.
🔥🔥🔥 Tesla Tesla Tesla is now being used as a weapon🔥🔥🔥 The USA military is driving Tesla into enemy bunkers, tanks, silos, and dropping Tesla from B52s!🔥🔥🔥
@@seymorefact4333 Yeah yeah while China will soon drop BYDs instead of incendiary bombs😂
Quality is poor, but when labor is almost free, unions are illegal, and the government is backing you, it almost doesn't matter. They can afford to have 10% defective products, which they'll mostly dump on the domestic market since the Chinese people have no choice, and the best stuff will get exported. This has been the pattern for 30 years now. That said, you can't predict when a battery will explode, so it does seem like they have a huge problem to solve.
@ChickensAndGardening just like how GM, DODGE, and Ford always get bailouts. TO BIG TO FAIL. QUALITY IS POOR, NO INCENTIVE TO IMPROVE. Gm... class action on their 8 to 10 speed transmission on older and current models. It's worse when unions and Corp are on welfare. COST OF LAZY STONE ALCHOLIC labor is too expensive. Drunk lazy executes bonus are too high fur using taxpayers money. Made in the USA= GM=government Motors!
You are saving lives with this video here!
The only people that can stop things like this is insurance companies. They either ramp up premiums or refuse to insure them.
True, just like the houses in California they refuse to insure now.
why? Gas cars are literally 100 times more likely to catch fire. Feel free to look it up. Nearly 200,000 cars every year catch fire in the US.
@@Tokenomics1 Its not what's more likely, its what it takes to put it out that's the problem. There's no argument that gasoline cars catch fire too, but they can be extinguished a lot easier, and safer.
Na, they are Subsidized by governments fool! Your tax money is being used to trick you!
@@Tokenomics1 Just FYI those stats don't differentiate between Electric and Gas car Fires. How many of those 200k are Electric cars vs Gas Cars? No one will tell you!
Thanks for covering this exclusive BYD EV feature. It’s called AFP technology (automatic fire pit tech). If you are camping, this feature turns your EV to an enormous camp fire, free of charge. Only setback is it’s for one time use.
😂😂😂😂
"Burn Your Dream".🫠
And no return… 😢
Hilarious 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😅
Don't forget how incredibly toxic the smoke and fumes created when those EV's burn is,I'm glad I don't have any charging systems by where I live and I haven't seen those brands of cars in Canada yet.Hopefully never after seeing your great video,thanks.
The whole EV crazy has to stop right now. Making the batteries is extremely harmful to the environment (and the people who mine the materials), uses tons of energy, recycling then is a catastrophe and we are heading towards being buried in a battery avalanche, the toxins from batteries just rotting away somewhere are bad, the energy to charge them is mostly dirty and yeah, obviously they are unsafe too. We've had EV bus fleets burn down in Germany and France so this isn't just a Chinese quality problem.
Don't import them
Can you name one EV brand that hasn't caught fire? Battery tech is changing all the time. Don't join the scaremongers.
those are hiybrid cars not EVs
So are ICE cars, you generally don't want to breath in the fumes that come from either a EV or a gasoline car.
The biggest issue with EVs catching fire, is that it's mainly a metal fire, from the batterypack, rather than a "conventional" fire from all the other parts inside. Lithium fires in particular CANNOT be put out by water, and in fact, adding water speeds up the thermal runaway, as the lithium reacts with water and explodes, which stimulates the rest of the battery to burn harder, which exposes it to more water, etc.
EV batteries are so large that you'd need a full shipping container to put out their metal fire, cause you need like 6 kilos of anhydrous salt in a specialized extinguisher to put out an 800g metal fire, let alone a several hundred kilos worth.
“No matter how nice and how many features, still have quality issues.” I think the whole focus of “Made in China” is to look good on the store shelf and be the cheapest, and who cares if it doesn’t function or falls to pieces within a few weeks or months (or hours….have seen new kids shoes come apart while being tried on in the store).
@Vidalion hahaha. Something similar like that happened to me in Belize. I bought some Chinese tennis shoes and the entire sole & heel came off before I got home. 😅
@@michaelpowers9259 in China, we also buy the Chinese brand shoes which can last for 2 years at least, if you want to choose made in China, you should buy the Chinese brand but not the just made in China.
China cell phones are really the only thing thats good in quality.they last longer than the buildings and cars they make.
Chinas industry can produce "made in China" and actual quality goods.
But going down the quantity over quality route has proven to make more money to them, hence most stuff produced in China fully falls into the "made in China" category.
Unless we stop buying crap, they will continue to sell us crap.
Chinese companies have really figured out this part of capitalism.
When I was making my products for shipment, I had an option to use Cheap Chinese material and make good profit but I preferred quality over cost. My profit margin was less but my customers only buy my products 😂😂
This is a good example of why I’m 100% confident in the lab leak origin of the virus.
Or they knew the lab leak would be a great cover for doing it on purpose
@@steveb9713 Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.
@@steveb9713 Could be, but if there is anything I've learned from this channel and other China watcher channels is that quite a bit of China's problems can be attributed to incompetence. It just ends up looking like malice because of how vehemently the CCP deny any mistakes and missteps.
@@taterkaze9428 Ukraine flag pfp 🤮
@@steveb9713 or the lab leak was a red herring and the real origin was bats determined to take over the world hahaha om commands of their master count dracula from the west.
Silly ppl.
Yes on purpose , its more deadly to non whites so they released it on themselves . Duh
Scientists have now found the virus is naturally resent in raccoons which they eat.
So dont eat things that are not meant to be eaten.
Not the first case of animals passing diseases onto humans
Bird flu
Swine fever
Mad cow disease
Foot n mouth disease
Rabies
Those batteries often have fluorinated plastics and liquids inside. The smoke coming out is extremely toxic.
Well also PVC for the cables, which can result in chlorine gas being emitted...
Keep in mind the VERY high voltages too. And the fact that the DC is converted to 3 phase AC. Dangerous!
Teflon burning is extremely toxic.
Fantastic content on all your podcasts. Well done!
As an ex volunteer fire fighter I know how hard it is to extinguish any car on fire. But also know that lithium spontaneously combusts when exposed to water. That's like fighting fire with fire.
I watched a video of a tesla in Texas that the owner piled books on the seat and sat in the passenger seat and let it drive in autopilot. It autopiloted itself into a tree. It burned and they put I think 21,000 gallons of water on it over 4 hours before it went out
Modern batteries aren't made from lithium.
It's cobalt+iron. Which is more safe, I guess.
But cutting corners and disregarding safety tasting will account for that inconvenience 😂
😂😢😂😂😢
@@ik2254lifepo4 is still use in many modern big brand car
There's not a lot of lithium in a lithium battery. That's not the issue. The problem simply is that the battery has all that's needed inside: the fuel, the oxygen, and the ignition source, which means you can't put out the fire until it has internally ran out of one of those. Your goal is just to keep the battery and the surroundings cool enough in order to not let the fire spread while it's using up all its energy.
you might need to mention that the particle fire extinguishers they were using to put out the apartment fire is one of the most expensive extinguishers you can get. They are basically highly compress, super dried sand in extreme pressure. They work by smothering the flame so using them from 4 meters away isn't going to do much for an electrical fire. They would have been better off carrying buckets of sand
yes and it's really the wrong type for lithium. You need heavier than air inert gas...IIRC not an expert.
In the Netherlands they dipped it in a container full of water. Maybe we should have firefighting methods before we launch electric cars. But that would be too easy.
Isn't the way to fight them just flooding with enough water to cool it and stop the thermal runaway? There's no atmospheric oxygen to smother, it's about just removing the heat energy.
@@wilsonx3217 Maybe we should require blow-out prevention devices that actually work before licensing deep-sea oil drilling operations hmmmmm
The issue there is that some of the high voltage circuits might still be live
That is absolutely horrifying! The e-bike caught fire while the owner and another man were in the elevator. Fortunately, they were able to escape in time.
So lucky. I am retired FDNY, and it was common for civilians to try to toss out a smoldering chair or mattress, only to have it light up in the elevator from the air flow as it went down
@@richardmeo2503 I bet that happened more in specific "hoods."
in Singapore previous case, the person died, its either e-scooter board thiny or e-bike iinm
Yeah thanks, we totally missed that part
@@josiahr1375 The wealthy would call "a worker bee" to handle anything like that. Sadly with so many "hoods" in NYC that issue was a common problem. More than once the civilians were found dead in the flaming elevator.
You get what you paid for … you paid for a metal moving coffin, and you got it !
Always praying for the wonderful people of China 🙏🙏 Great presentation here Serpentza ! 🥰🙏🇨🇦
As a Chinese, My friendly advise: DO NOT BUY CHINESE CARS for the sake of your life.
I try to never interact with anything china related
@@bomnitoperro9422you mean like TH-cam videos😂
@@GF-nm1cl this man is not a chinese person, teiying to scam me and proclaim themselves as genetically superior, so im fine with this. Imagine being acrually so srupid as you are
But-what about a Jac T9 green demon 😢
i dont gamble with my safety. all my cars are german, italian or japanese. the "axis alliance" make the best cars. period.
These are class Delta fires, in the navy the preferred method for Delta fires was to jettison whatever was burning over the side into the ocean.
Too bad cars don't drive in the ocean.
Will it become a Delta Mike fire then? (Discard Maritim)
There are commercial products available to put out these fires. They make the battery very cold basically.
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 The problem is getting close enough to the exploding/burning EV to use those products.
Once lithium starts to burn it is nearly impossible to put it out. Additionally, all the water used is now hazardous waste!
Just as an added note, my 31 year old petrol car has leaked gasoline in the engine bay for about 3 days until i caught it, and replaced a cracked rubber hose. The point is, that all the petrol what leaked went straight onto the exhaust manifold, what is extremely hot most of the time, and it still didnt catch fire. It evaporated before it could ignite. So remember, things can, and WILL happen, and its pretty important how "bullettproof" is the technology. We are using petrol for over than 100years now.. and it shows.
it's the evaporated gasoline that ignites. you did get quite lucky
@@03056932 nah, happened to me again since then, the retainer failed, so it was pouring big time, but again, besides the stink of petrol nothing happened
You may be surprised to learn how many gasoline cars catch fire each year. According to our analysis of data found in the National Fire Protection Association, Reuters, and U.S. fire departments, there are an estimated 284,130 gasoline cars that catch fire every year.
@@ThePeca1988 your own example, an anecdote, doesn't trump science. gasoline vapour ignites. not the liquid. look it up.
you are extremely lucky, but you will ofcause also cling to that as a proof of fact instead of looking at real data. Actual facts are, that battery cars catch fire much LESS than ice does.
This video was easy to watch...no human suffering. It has been 20 years since I lived in China. Nothing has changed except it has gotten worse. When I was there, Chinese people told me that they preferred Japanese products (not their own domestic products). So I learned...'when in Rome,...' Another good and informative video, Winston.
Think you should make a return visit and be surprised. Don't buy western propaganda.
Middle class and above Mainlanders will not buy local "fresh" produce for fear of being poisoned. They will only buy stuff imported from neighboring countries LOL
No suffering indeed... Except the people who are suffering for the loss to their wallets 🤣
6:58 yeah these guys really survived trapped inside an elevator with exploding lithium and smoke
As a voluneteer firefighter, EV fires are our worst nightmare. You can't really put them out, as soon as you stop the water, it reignites itself. The strategy is therefore to get a huge container, fill it up with water and throw the burning car inside, where it can stay for up to a month.
Great. And that's called progress...
@@Ruddermeister gasoline cars catch fire, horses don't. You call that progress? 🤣🤣
German fire fighters say cover it with fireproof blanket, foam, and leave till cool. It is pointless to try to put out with water. That simply causes more electrical shorts, igniting a different battery cell.
@@ps8432 funny enough I am also a German firefighter 😁 guess this varies by Bundesland. We only ever use foam for liquid (fuel) fires. Probably also a good idea though, especially in combination with the blankets, as I am not sure how long our foam lasts, I think only a couple of hours.
Shouldn't you be using special metallic fire fire extinguishers for this?
EV fires are suppressed and censored by the media. Question ? Why ?
Because media is funded by corporate and government and both is owned by cccp
Thanks for doing this video. I made a comment a few videos back that a distant relative who's a car dealer was thinking of selling Geely cars in the UK and deep down I felt this was a big mistake.
The safest bet for selling Geely cars are the ones being made by Proton. It appears that when Proton makes them from complete knockdown kits, it is actualy of superior quality compared to ones that actually come from China.
By the way, Proton is a complete hit in South Africa at the moment since it sells quite affordable crossovers, the X70 and X50. And while they were designed by Geely, they were built in Malaysia
Your 'distant relative' will do just fine. EV fires are extremely rare, this video does not reflect the facts of auto fires.
I’ve saw loads I’ve Teslas on fire. Just saying.
The reason why Black Cab firms was sold to Geely... WAS because.. they wanted those companies to KEEP the managements.. and to TRAIN those chinese people. But you would NOT expect those chinese people, to THEN... kick out the Western teams.. and then reduce their quality components and raw materials... and then cut costs. Cos MANY firms that are often bought from China.. works like that as well. It has been happening since 1990s !!! Nothing has changed ! Why? Cos that is basically how they operated.. even though SOME firms.. were allowed to actually keep those Western managements.. a lot of them.. were basically squeezed out. And then they will always support or try and educate a chinese management guy, WITHOUT actual physical experiences.. as their managment... This is how it often goes... Rather than to promote the individuals from bottom up.. or like GE to rotate them, so every single employees KNEW the exact step for ALL processes.. They didn't do it like that at all.... The arrogance is too much. And there is no trust between their departments as well. Don't go there is what I say.
@@TheOz91 : It is actually really really sad to read that actually... For Protons to be "higher" quality than Geely. I think Geely owned some of the UK car companies actually. They were sold... Don't tell me that they don't even run their factories properly.... and never HONESTLY call out the mistakes.. don't tell me that they reverted back to some kind of senior-subordinate BS play.... so then they hide their mistakes to cover their asses... Cos that is the least that you would need.. to make such important components...
I have been to a couple of EV fires in my career. You are correct, they are extremely hard to put out.
Battery fires are nasty and very hard to put out, well you don't really as all you do is stop it burning down everything else around it until it has finished reacting.... I keep my solar setup away from the house for that reason and the batteries I use in that are way more stable than those in an EV.
I hope you are not using water, which makes lithium combust.
@@stonehartfloydfanI use a Tesla powerwall 😃🔫
@@chuzzbot
ADD HIGH HEAT TO H20 AND THE H AND O SEPARATE. THEN YOU HAVE A POWERFUL BOMB ON YOUR HANDS.
Yes, but outside of China an EV fire is remarkably rare. Only 25 EV fires per 100,000 vehicles vs 1529 per 100,000 for gasoline cars or 3474 per 100,000 for hybrid vehicles. If you include hybrids in the average an EV is over 100 times less likely to catch fire than cars that use gasoline. I'd be willing to surmise you saw plenty more gas fires and hybrid fires than full EV's.
The biggest fear I have with an electric vehicle is not being able to get my kids out of their car seat in time if or when it catches fire
More time you get than ice
Don't worry those battery fires are slow starters, there will be plenty of time. When your gas car starts to smoke you had better be quick though.
Indeed. it's fear. Not reality.
A big tank of gas fire = explosion
Battery = slow 4hr fire
Then you probably shouldn’t drive a gas powered car. Gas burns and exploded instantly
@@GreenDriveIndia Under what circumstance? You're driving a Pinto still? A fire around the EGR system? A short on the tail lights wiring? You will have time to react.
With an EV the fire starts under the vehicle, the only thing I can think is comparable is forcing the ICE car to run fuel rich and setting your catalytic converter on fire. Even if you puncture the gasoline tank, you still need an ignition source from somewhere.
Imagine being stuck and the thing catches on fire, maybe this is a feature accessible over the net. Can be quite dangerous.
Let me say a quick correction and fun fact; you mentioned that you're only carrying half of the energy in the fuel tank in a gasoline car, actually you're only carrying only 1/14th of it. There's something called the "stoichiometric ratio" that determines the amount of gas versus air that need to mix together to complete combustion for a certain fuel or chemical. For gasoline it's 14.7 parts air to 1 part fuel.
Thanks for sharing the information
It's only the oxygen in air that's used in combustion, so probably a bit lower than that
But when it burns or explodes the whole energy is released unless you drive in vacuum. Actually amount of energy in batteries is way lower than in a typical tank of gas (combustion engine is quite inefficient for vehicles propulsion but energy density of the fuel is way higher than the battery).
@@1funnygame 'so probably a bit lower than that' No, it isn't lower than that. 1 gallon of gasoline burns against roughly 9000 gallons of air by volume, 20% of that is the oxygen. The 14.7:1 is by mass.
That very large flow per gallon of gas is why having clean air filters is so important.
Example: Tesla Model Y long range has 75kWh battery, fully charged goes about 400km. My car: each liter of gas 13kWh of energy, I fill up 30l which is 490kWh of energy and it can make about 500km on it. Energy and efficiency equations is heavily favorable to EV’s. I don’t know about BYD but a regular top quality EV is statistically very unlikely to catch a fire compared to a combustion engine vehicle. Fires look scary but they are happening so often nobody is reporting on ICE cars fires anymore, EV’s are novelty as everyone needs to see their narrative confirmed and media is here to fulfill the demand.
When battery goes off it's not an electrical fire it's a chemical fire
Exactly because a lithium battery is just a galvanic element....
It's both actually. Electrical fires are something chemical burning, like the wiring or the gunk inside a battery. I know what you meant. Lithium metal burns a bit like magnesium does and it hates water.
Their ev's are so ahead of the game they even got a self destruct feature
Before the internal atomic energy battery explode the car goes up in flame so to avoid a small nucelar explosion like in the terminator movie, in the movie the terminator did remove the battery by himself but customers isnt allowed to change or remove anything from their EVs so the car have to go up in flames and self destruct.
To make sure those pesky westerners can't get their hands on them and infringe on their IP 😂
@@BAUSSCO DNA scanners built in to the cars, if they detect a tourist in the driver seat it start the BBQ ?
We have Chinese EV's on the road in the UK. They are branded "MG", but that's just a badge now for SAIC. Not heard about fires yet. Perhaps they are a little more careful about the ones they export?
MG.(mans garbage)
@@GAZZA55 You obviously haven't owned one. MY MG ZT sports auto (Made in England) was 22 years old when I grudgingly sold it. Never missed a beat! I hear it's still going strong. I miss it so much, I'm thinking of buying it back! I must admit though, the Chinese MG I swapped it for is just as good. 8 years old and has never let me down.
I remember when getting my license to drive forklifts, when we covered electric lifts, the instructor telling us, "You're sitting on top of a bomb." That was 20 years ago btw! Yes, batteries are explosive AF if something goes wrong. The same applies to EVs as well.
Compressed air or fossil fuels are also a bomb.
I recently had to do a refresher training course for forklifts and electric pallet jacks, the instructor said the same thing.
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 Gas forklifts are really safe
I drove a propane fork lift, and in my training got the same speech. These are heavy compact machines, with exposed parts, and an exposed driver, moving things that can fall, and regularly put in really weird and awkward situations. Doesn't matter if it is compressed air, propane, or batteries, they are WAY more dangerous than driving a car... And also a heck of a lot more fun to drive!
I cant read the sentence "getting my license to drive forklifts" without thinking its a meme now due to licensed forklift memes
little addition, these aren't electrical fires, these are metal fires that start out as a shortcircuit in the components. in fact Metal fires are even more dangerous than electrical fires
“Metal fires” (at room temperature purified lithium, potassium, and sodium are metallic) and *damn near impossible* to extinguish-like trying to stop a thermite reaction
@@drcovell exactly, and alot of phosphor munitions are outlawed because of their hazardous nature, and unpredictable outcomes when used. not to mention the amount of aluminium mold explosions and deaths
@@drcovell even normal metals like aluminium can strip the oxygen from water if hot enough, releasing a huge amount of energy and hydrogen
keep a couple a large sacks of rice in the trunk, at least you walk away with some fried rice.
When li-ion batteries go into thermal runaway they produce their own oxygen as a by product of the chemical thermal breakdown. That is why its so hard to put out an EV battery fire, even with a foam extinguisher. You have to let it burn itself out.
So imagine this scenario in the future. Whole bunch of electric cars are parked in a parking garage that's attached to a large building.
One cheep Chinese made car starts on fire it burns itself, and then the fire spreads to another, then the next one catches to another and so on untill eventually the entire building has been engulfed in raging hot flames in mere minutes. Thanks China! Many many many people all killed in said hypothetical situation because we couldn't stop China from building crap and we didn't learn how to extinguish an EV battery fire fast and efficient.
Burning temperatures are extremely high. Problem of problems. Or is it planned that way?
What about LFP bateries, are they any better?
@TheAndpush Yes, but the capacity per square inch is why they use li-ion. You would need about 2-3 times the space to fit the same capacity.
no you don't, you need a different fire extinguisher. just like you don't extinguish oil fires with a regular foam extinguisher.
The frightening thing is that you have less than 30 secs to get out of the car before the fire and smoke overwhelms you
That's if the door opens ...gulp !
wear a race suit and helmet when you drive. Problem solved lol
@@manoz6194 1 iq take
30 seconds? It wouldnt take me more than 2-4 seconds (depending on the type of pants im wearing) to get out of my car. 30seconds is more than enough time. I could probably light the cigarette on the flames, smoke it, and then get out of the car before 30seconds lmao. Try harder
My sister lives in Ft.Myers, FL. After the hurricane, EVs that got flooded were spontaneously combusting in driveways. After being extinguished by the fire dept., they would re-ignite. If near a house, they would destroy it. I think I'll stick with evil gasoline, thank you.
Those were the poorly built ones. People buy Tesla batteries out of flooded cars all the time... All the electrics should be well sealed off from water ingress in any reasonably well built EV.
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 100% the actual quality and quality control are a major issue here, gasoline powered cars have been known to spontaneously combust too if poorly built or poorly maintained.
We've had EVs in my small city for years now but the only car we've seen explode and melt itself down in the last couple years was a new, gasoline powered, Ford Mustang, still took so long to put out it melted the engine block to useless scrap
Lithium and water dont mix well , lots of Hydrogen and oxygen are given off
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@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 Are you some sort of EV apologist?
Electrical fire from battery source is almost impossible to put out while the battery still has power in it. They don't need as much oxygen as a regular fire
That feature to be able to increase the temperature during winter via spontaneous combustion is something I have always looked for in a car
And if the car makes it to the summer, it had the feature of cooling from fire fighter spraying water on it.
The heaters are impressive... In wintertime you'll be in your toasty living room calling the fire department for your high end Chinese luxury vehicle in roaring flames out on the street. (hopefully not in your garage)
I spent some time in battery work. I won't touch full electric vehicles until they're all solid state batteries. Let me explain.
The reason you see explosions in batteries are often because of internal shorting. Almost all of these batteries have liquid electrolytes with solid electrodes. As you cycle a battery like this over and over again, you get something called a solid electrolyte layer on the surface. Eventually, the crystallised electrolyte starts to grow branching needle-like crystals called dendrites, which eventually find their way to each other. If the dendrites originate on the same electrode, that's pretty harmless. But if the dendrites from two different electrodes meet, you short the battery, which at best makes the battery useless, and at worst, well you've seen the explosions.
A lot of very smart people are trying to solve the dendrite problem in liquid batteries, because it is a worthwhile cause. But you can avoid the issue entirely with solid state electrolytes. Because the electrode and electrolyte are in the same phase of matter, you won't get issues of recrystallisation and dendrite-driven shorting. The battery is going to be heavier, and as of now, more expensive, but the longevity, the capacity, the safety, and the efficiency of energy conversion, are all much higher.
I'm happy to answer questions about this, if anyone has any. This is a topic I am deeply passionate about.
My question would be why you chose to talk nonsense because statistically EVs are a lot less likely to catch fire than gassers. Or at least those made by Western standards.
What are we lacking to have fully solid state batteries?
@@GldnClaw physics
@@tellyboy17 First of all, I don't like you telling me that I'm talking nonsense when this is a legitimate problem in the battery industry. Second, the larger your liquid state battery, the more potential nucleation sites you have for dendrites. The greater your charging capacity and discharge rate are, the faster these dendrites may be able to form. With small batteries, your charging capacity and discharge rates are quite low, so the physical size and low power operation zone aren't huge concerns. But as you get bigger, the risk increases. And with something like a car, you should absolutely be concerned.
I understand that this could also be partially a result of my paranoia from working in the field, the same way as a software engineer would about datamining, or a civil engineer would about bridges and buildings. But at the same time, these aren't matters you take lightly
@@me0101001000 ..and yet you will jump in your gas car without giving it a second thought, despite the fact that ~170K of those burn to crisp each year in the US alone.
Thanks so much for the video and info
Typically you don't put lithium battery fires out, they burn under water. So you limit spread and wait for the fire to burn out.
Yeah that's all I was thinking when I saw them going at it with the fire extinguishers
Or you can use dry ice dust and/or graphite powder. Blasting it with compressed CO2 also works quite well.
That's why extinguinshers release compressed CO2, and not water. Dipsh..t
@@texanplayer7651 XDDD
@@texanplayer7651 “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
The problem with reverse engineering is that you don't understand why somethings are in place.
To save a few pennies those little things get removed.
This is the result of not understanding the technology they are stealing.
BYD does its own research. BYD electric buses are being used without problems. ALL electric cars , yes Tesla too, have a battery overheat problem. This causes them to catch fire.
@@ruudkreuger9212 Well, its likely more of an issue in China due to quality control. People working assembly lines in China are probably paid less than a retail worker in the US working a register.
@@ruudkreuger9212go to like 14:30, he talks about buses too
maybe buses have a bit more of the safety features or maybe it's just buses have less chances
The fire brigade in Germany stores electric cars that have caught fire in a water-filled container for two days after they have been extinguished with foam. However, these are mainly vehicles from Tesla, which are most widespread in Germany.
I was actually going to write that. I saw a video of a American fire chief saying they've had electric cars reignite out of nowhere days after being extinguished. That only submersion in water or complete battery depletion stops this from happening. He also said that electrical vehicles require exponentially more resources to deal as they not only pose a fire risk but an electrocution risk as well.
Need some kind of fire blanket just to let it burn out safely
Same for Austrian Fire-fighters, they have made some containers to haul the EV's into and submerge them for a month before giving them over to recycle. It hadn't been many that where burning, I only know of 2 Teslas that caught fire after crashes.
A bus in my hometown caught fire. Luckily the driver spotted it straight away and got out immediately, it was ablaze within 30 seconds. Very luckily he had no passengers on as he was finishing his shift. Nothing in even the local press!
exactly, but you won't hear the ignoramus running this channel about that.
This happens almost every day in China. Some of them spontaneously combust in stores selling single items.
I’ve had first hand experience with li-po batteries in the rc hobby industry and these battery packs are literally incendiary bombs
Aren't LiFePO a lot safer?
@@DataGeek903 Yes, but right now sparesly utilized in the cars cause of lower energy density. I think the cheaper Tesla models can use them and BYD lamellar batteries are Lifepo. I am not sure though. But if you buy a portable powerbank (you know the AC ones) most reputable brands are tranistioning to Lifepo, also because you can do a lot more cycles before having to recycle the battery
Yeah I've had a lipo battery basically turn into red sulfer/napalm on my desk from an RC car.....exiting but not in a good way.
Aren't they also extremely toxic?
@@carlpanzram7081 Worse than they will ever let you know.
Love the videos. Stay awesome!
Just discovered your channel. Though I don’t speak the language I have traveled in China in 2010, 2015, and 2017. Your experience validates my own. Thank you.
@Jack Smith why doubt him?
@@CamdenKnightly even the most idiot person know this channel is anti China propaganda 😂
@Jack Smith wumao
Thanks for your reports I'm driving German's car loving it to see your podcasts that's very scary to me. Stay safe and be Awesome 😮from Australia
They started selling this stuff here in India and my uncle has one.... Hope it doesn't blow up 😢
😂
We pray for your Uncle. 😊
All will be fine.
Just park it reasonably far from the house
If it was happening often, no car insurer would ensure. This is like 0.001%
BYD sells like MILLIONS of vehicles per year.
Fear is the mindkiller
@@harm991 found the brainwashed
The fumes and pollution from all these fires has probably far exceeded all the pollution from old tech vehicles put together
If you think that a thousand fires burning for a couple of hours will produce more pollution than a billion cars running for years you have no grasp of reality whatsoever.
Yeah the fumes is a huge problem The people putting the fires had zero productive gear on.
Add that to the greater pollution of producing them in the first place and the strip mining in Africa to get the lithium and other rare earth minerals needed to make them in the first place.
Not forgetting the mining of the batteries minerals and the recycling of the car
@@royalcrowntowing2464 Not forgetting that all manufacturing requires materials and recycling.
I was at a major shopping centre in Melbourne Australia with my son and while walking past a BYD demo car parked in the middle of the walkway, my son asks if this car is Chinese.
I tell him, while in earshot of the sales lady standing next to the car, in a louder than normal voice, "yes, it's a crappy Tesla knockoff from China".
The sales lady heard it, and dejectedly nodded while trying not to piss herself laughing.
Even the sales people don't have any faith in these crap heaps.
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You're aware of course that every Tesla that comes to Australia is Chinese right?
@@Camulus11 You do of course realise Tesla is not Chinese designed. It's manufactured under the strict control of Tesla, which is not Chinese.
The main issue with crap coming out of China is when it's Chinese designed.
Try again bot.
@@Camulus11while true, this is a much different car than a Chinese companies car
@@Camulus11 Tesla manufactures quality cars, even if manufactured by Chinese workers.
Great video and narration!
Great video. People forget that battery fires are almost impossible to extinguish. Once they catch fie, you usually need to let it burn.
Here in those videos is revealed the propaganda of "no pollution", "clean energy".
@@MasterCommander. Gas cars are many times more likely to catch fire per mile driven. BYD has pouch cells and poor cooling. Just get a Tesla. Ford, VW and Toyota have publicly stated that they are far Behind Tesla's engineering and manufacturing.
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I’m starting to see these around Australia and this is a concern, thanks for your due diligence much appreciated Australia needs to see this.
None of it is true.
exactly. Its just a fear mongering for clics.
Gotta remember that quality control for export markets is gonna be much higher than for the local market, because if there are serious issues like this in the foreign market, that's a severe loss of face to the Chinese (which is why they'll find someone else, preferably a foreigner, to blame). Also gotta point out that many of these cars shown caught fire whilst being charged, so it's also possible the chargers are at fault, but then I'd hope that the EV cuts off the charging before the car catches fire.
We're also seeing BYD EVs in NZ, yet so far, there's been no reports of them fire and I haven't see stories from UK with them having these problems, so it might be a more China-centric issue. Not that I'd ever buy a Chinese car and I'm not buying an EV with current battery tech any time soon.
@@Spacerkari get out of here, Chinese shill
@@richardbaron7106BYD有电池穿刺实验，我觉得还不错的车企，现在特斯拉也用BYD的配件，每年卖几百万辆有起火的也算正常，我们油车都有着火的，不用过分放大这个缺点，还是有很大进步的空间的，继续努力。
Awesome show. This reminds me of a footage I once saw. It was in a EV dealership where a supposedly authorized Tesla salesman tells his customers in Chinese NOT to buy the Tesla because it is very "unreliable" and expensive. I am wondering now if his customer did purchase the Chinese brand he promoted instead.
That's a common tactic isn't it? Chinese people working for foreign companies actually trying to sabotage the company they work for and trying to help out other Chinese companies
Thats ok, Mother Nature will retaliate. 😂😂
Los EV de Tesla tiene mayor incidencias de incendios y problemas técnicos en su fabricación y Software.
We had an eBike store within a parking garage in Hannover going up in flames. You can guess the damages for yourselfs...
did you send money to ukraine too?
BYD are now selling cars in the UK.