My heart goes out to the pilots. My hats off to the camera man and editor. I know that it was a sad day for the pilots but that video capture was phenomenal.
Why is this called "Formation" when it should be called "Flying Around in a Circle Until the Fastest Plane Ass-Packs a Slower One?" Ain't nuthin' "formation" about it..
We fliers enjoy the spectacular crashes (and this was a gooden) but we are not heartless we have been there ourselves and know the the emotions. Sympathy to the builders and pilots and thanks for being prepared to share. Two beautiful models that deserved their time in the air. Hopefully they donate their organs to a future project. Cheers from NZ.
A number of people here have complained that this video shows "Senseless," "Avoidable risk," "Showing off," "Hot Dogging," and "Taking Huge Risk's." While all of this is true TO SOME EXTENT, I normally fly large (100cc class) 3D aircraft, every flight is wrought with possible threats: Wind changes, mechanical, technical, structural, and pilot errors. Every flight. I've had losses, just like everyone else, and I work for a living, just like most of those in our hobby. But if I wanted to "play-it-safe," I'd be flying a trike trainer or Cessna in a slow race track pattern, and only when no one else was in the air. The ONLY TIME I fly a warbird is in formation flight: they just don't have the performance or challenge for me otherwise. Flying R/C is a gamble, and like gambling, don't risk what you can't afford to lose. Mid-airs happen even when there are only 2 planes in the air, and people are flying conservatively. Personally, if I'm not being challenged, I'll stay home and watch TV. While I take great care of my planes and equipment before and after flying, my flying risks my aircraft, perhaps more than you do yours, but because of the skills I've developed by flying the way I do, I have prevented crashes too. My point is, if you want nothing more than to putt around with a Piper Cub, or stay aloft for an hour with your sailplane, more power to you. I would never put you down for it, but it would bore me to tears. If, however, someone else wants to fly 150 MPH pylon racing, or 3D, or formation, or whatever, I can't figure out why anyone would feel the need to castigate someone else willing to take a calculated risk to improve themselves. Unless it's jealousy.
Because they are too chicken shit or cheap to take that risk with their own a\c so they want nothing more than to prevent you from doing it. Reason, you may actually succeed in your attempt.
They were both beautiful aircraft, such detail. They were so accurately detailed is a better way to describe them. I am planning a trip to Texas the summer of '21, I'd like to visit this place when they have the soonest event to my arrival. I can only imagine the heartache the Pilots are going through with all the time and the love of their creation. Thank you for sharing.
Its an occupational hazard of RC flying and the hobby wouldn’t be the same without it. My wife claims i do it on purpose from time to time to make room in the garage for another one
then your wife will say you spend more time with that dam model then me just one thing you need to remember never upset a lady if she is in the kitchen a lot of things will go flying only not the model ???
@@gunrunner4637 Kind of like riding a motorcycle. I flew a P51 for a little while. Took me months to lovingly build it. Crashed on the 4th flight I think. It was heartbreaking and didn't have the heart to rebuild. Respect to the guys who love this so much they carry on. It wasn't for me but I certainly admire the planes and those who excel at building and flying them.
I have been flying RC since 1972, I've had more that a few mid-airs. In the formation flying we usually tried to match airplanes with similar performance. Having flying so many years plus building and tested many aircraft for Chermark and Nitroplanes, I've built up quite a collection of planes. When it came to formation flying I used a P-40, P-51, or FW-190 for the prop planes, F-4 , ME-262, or F9F Panther for EDF, B-25, B-17, C-47, or PBY Catalina for the multi engine, J-3 Piper Cub, or Cessna for the Civilian, Christensen Eagle, Pitts Special, or Areomaster for bi-planes. By far warbirds are the most impressive in formation. I had only one midair in formation flying and that was when my F9F nose clipped a F-4 wing and took out his aileron. A mid air is always a risk when we fly.
I used to watch the guys fly R/C in Cincinnati in the 80s and 90s. Dave Brown and the World Engines people were the regulars. Crashes were pretty regular, along with some great flying.
I am in love. I have only watched the start of the video. I could really get into this. Looks like fun. Watching these planes buzz around. Thanks for the video. Great work. Now I will continue watching the rest of the video.
This is one of the best videos online that I have ever seen. Shame about the crash naturally. However kudos to all involved in this video as I almost want to start this hobby myself. Or watch it somewhere
Outstanding photography, beautiful planes things like that have happened to me in my life and I reminded myself that nothing lasts forever just as in most of the real WW2 aircraft all we have left are photos and memories. Beautiful planes.
that black dude flying the baby blue dive bomber 'SBD Dauntless?' with perforated dive flaps was amazing, lol that high speed gear out touchdown was spectacular!
thank you for sharing, i love large scale r/c, though i've never built or flown one, i know they are a huge ammount of time ,engineering,and fab work, it makes me cringe to see a crash, i hope everybody gets back up and flying soon!
Boys and their expensive toys! My heart aches for both flyers. This is an expensive hobby and I hopoe they can recover their losses and climb back into the air. Thank you
I also notice that several times planes pass each other when doing low passes and then risk colliding when both pulling out because one is crossing by the other. Simple rule...call out you're doing a low pass and stay behind the guy already doing one ahead of you. It may be a little more structured but is no less exciting tonwatch and far less stressful to participate in. Just my two cents. Still kudos to all for flying and great builds.:-)
Don't like giving a thumbs up to something so tough to watch. But the images are so compelling and the aircrafts so amazing. Hazards of the trade I reckon. Thank you for sharing 💜
Ashes to ashes...these beauties returned to "kit form" in spectacular fashion. The photography is outstanding, as were both builds. RIP big birds of prey.
@@TC-tm3nq they used to make releases for plastic bombs you filled with flour to simulate a bomb. They were pretty cool the few times I saw one used. That was 1989 so I don't know if they are made anymore.
"sweet dreams and flying machine in pieces on the ground" I've seen fire and I've seen rain....James Taylor Last week my sweet T-28 slipped a control arm on the rudder servo and crashed on base to final turn.....its okay...I walked away......a way down the field and picked up the pieces :-) r.i.p. - replacement on the way
I have been to B-17 meet in years past and I have witnessed these warbird races and it is very entertaining! That's one of the reasons this meet is one of the best in the south! RIP BBW!
Heartbreaking for both. Since it has been 9 yrs from the video posting date, I wonder if both gentlemen got back into flying or did they hang up their wings? I really hope they both got back into flying…both planes were awesome to watch.
That is some exciting formation flying. Too bad the best two airplanes collided. Hate to see such disappointment. Glad the pre-crash footage was captured on camera. Enjoyed the thrills!
mark pa usa I dislike the wreacks because I understand what it takes 2 do all the work and time and love that goes into into something that u love, i'm the same way when someone gives me an antique ,classic firearm ,I do my very best on the restoration , thx so much 4 the vid , Ive had a few fails in my life
The scale figure of William Holden survived the crash, only to be machine gunned by Chi Com infantry action figures. Scale Mickey Rooney and Earl Holliman action figures were also KIA. Where do we get such action figures?
Condolences indeed, beautiful planes. Happened so quick, and don't know the details, but is it just me, or did the jet almost look recoverable in its dive?
I guess this has been asked before but why don't these craft have a "panic chute"? If the carrier wave is lost the engines cut and a chute deploys or its pilot initiated following a structural failure. Its not impossible, Shirley!
Actually not a bad question, they do this with full sized planes now, in some cases, mostly light general aviation aircraft. At the time and expense these guys have in, it might be worth it.
It appeared to get slowed down and thrown into a spin, with enough altitude he may have been able to recover it. Just my observation tho! I doubt you can tell if any parts failed after that crash.
I saw my first mid air back in 1989 between to jets. 1/5 scale I think. They hit head on at maybe 200 feet up. It spread the wreckage the entire length of the airstrip. People had called in to report 2 planes colliding it was so loud and real looking. The young kid was at fault and got mad, the older guy looked heart broken but knew crashes happened. Back then even cheap planes like I flew were several hundred dollars and a month to build. I felt so bad for the older guy. I got disoriented in the sun 2 weeks later and destroyed mine. I quite flying until 1998 or so and only flew cheap .049 planes or smaller cheaper electrics. What I paid $300 for back then can be gotten for $100 now all ready to fly. I don't know who was fault here but I feel bad for both. They were nice planes. I assume the jet lost engines at impact since the fuselage was not broken apart like the prop planes was. It is too bad he couldn't fly it down to a better ending. I was also in Texas in 1989. Near the Brazos river where the mosquitos were large enough to carry kids and small dogs away :)
Talk about busy skies, this reminded me of an aerial combat scene more than anything else with some many planes in the air at the same time. Very exciting to watch. Definitely some mismatch of planes with different capabilities, but that's what made it exciting to view. Sad that they lost two great looking and preforming planes though. I have been wondering if having a small digital camera would help in flying more accurately. Great video coverage of this event.
really sad loss for these guys.. in money and build time. but i think these guys will again fly in this style. its very exciting to fly this way as well as to watch it be done. as always i think the most important thing is no one gets hurt. the event was a really great time! hats off to the pilots that risk their machines to put on a great show!
I was there that day in 2012 when those beautiful aircraft collided, and crashed. It was sad, but the only thing anyone can do, is to rebuild, build new, or just change planes. I have 20 aircraft for just such emergencies.
I usually lay down a cheap blue 5x7 tarp from harbor freight in the back of my vehicle before going to the field...that way I don't have to sweep it out .
A bunch of big RC planes flying at different speeds seemingly without a plan - what could possibly go wrong? Shame about the Tigercat though. A very impressive model.
Normally I don't mind seeing the odd RC crash, especially when it's not my own but watching the death of these two beautiful birds was sad. They were well constructed, well proportioned and flown expertly by both pilots. In the air, there was very little to distinguish between them and the real thing. I would have expected if a producer was making a movie that required these types of aircraft, they could have been used without the audience realising they were models. I hope that both pilots don't give up and continue to build beautiful aircraft like the ones they lost. I have a suspicion that's exactly what they're going to do.
As a kid I used to pour fuel on my Testors model planes, light em up and throw them off the deck to simulate being shot down....love those crashes! Keep em coming!
I agree and VFA-192 aircraft livery remains among the best looking in the Navy-even in the awful flat gull gray over white years during which I served as a member of the Golden Dragons (1966-70).
This was nothing more than utter chaos in the sky. No coordination amongst the pilots on how they were going to fly. It’s a amazing that there were more.
Every modeler has a shit day my self had to dig a few motors out of the dirt but its always a time to start the next project love building as much as flying therapy I call it gets me into the man shed and away I go good luck with your next project .
Great video and stills. I am planning on attending in Sept. So, what would you suggest on lenses, specifically tele-zooms? I shoot Fuji and will definitely bring along my 50-140 2.8 (70-200 2.8 doe FF DSLR equiv) and as I will be a spectator likely not getting close to the action would you suggest longer glass? Anywho, this is my first RC Airshow, so any suggestions and tips would be greatly appreciated.
Hi, you need some zoom for RC planes. This video was shot with a simple old Sony Cyber-shot with built in 20x zoom set at 1080 but 2 or 4k would be better to edit with. I got the photos from another guy. You can go up to the fence and be very close or up in the stans for a good view. The fall event is good, but not like it used to be when the owner was alive.
Agreed, but don't agree with taking avoidable risks with valued built-up models , mine or others, for whatever reasons. Mid-airs are avoidable "accidents" .
Funny all the comments on here about how sad the loss and worrying about cost. Yes its sad when we lose a plane,yes its costly,all AMA sites require insurance to fly. thats why we pay membership dues. The truth guys, flying is crashing,crashing is flying. Dont get me wrong,no body likes to lose a plane. We spend many hours,and plenty of money. It is more than that. Seeing peoples faces when we do shows is awesome,flying takes skill no doubt,but any RC pilot will tell you crashs happen. From the beginner to the expert,we all understand things happen,most unintentional. Equipment failure happends more than you can believe. Flying with other people in a show requires more than one person flying at a time,as humans,we make mistakes,especially when there are multiple planes up there at the same time. None of us are blue angel quality,but we are not amatures eather. My hat goes off to the pilots,they did a great job keeping their planes from landing in the spectator area dont you all agree?
"they did a great job keeping their planes from landing in the spectator area dont you all agree?" nope, disagree on this one, after the collision, the pilots where spectators......they had no control over their planes, one of the planes didn't even have it's empennage left....
scott firman Actually, I do not agree. In my opinion RC planes crash for the same reasons as full size planes. Pilot error, poor maintenance , bad weather, equipment failure, poor design, and human factors. We do not accept "flying is crashing" for full size planes. Why accept it for RC planes? There are lots of RC planes that survive years of hard flying and are retired intact. I'm sure both pilots knew the risks of flying in this crowd pleasing mass formation. They chose to fly anyway - human factors. Anyways, we should never accept flying is crashing. Almost all are preventable. I would rather have that for a mantra personally.
good call . his was a very odd take on this art / sport . it was avoidable and moving forward from there you'd hope an emphasis on training and safety would be the new mantra .
How does anyone get good at flying RC planes? I’m curious how many crashes each of these pilots have had in the course of their hobby. I love building model planes. Not sure how much I’d love crashing one, let alone mid-air with someone else. That said, great video ! Well done, great detail if the event and crash.
Start with a simulator to do your crashes, then practice for a few weeks, then if you have a lot of talent and a lot more practice and years, you may fly like the guys in the video. Kinda like just driving a car or being able to race a car on a track or weekend golfers compared to pro golfers. Crashing is part of the hobby, but maybe not so often and with repairable damage.
Inevitable with that many aircraft in the air with differing flight enveloppes and low level hot dogging. When the skies get that busy, I put mine back on the ground asap
Sorry for your loss. The photos of the stricken aircrafts are amazing!
My heart goes out to the pilots. My hats off to the camera man and editor. I know that it was a sad day for the pilots but that video capture was phenomenal.
Condolences to both pilots for the loss of their aircraft, they both were very beautiful.
Kevin in CT
The planes were beautiful, too. ;)
Calm down … just material kids
Why is this called "Formation" when it should be called "Flying Around in a Circle Until the Fastest Plane Ass-Packs a Slower One?"
Ain't nuthin' "formation" about it..
Circle, highlight and underline that.
Lol'd
Doug Gyver The crash was the formation . 🥴
Oh my, I wonder how much those toys cost? That would really suck!
@@robertspivey46 jet was probably about $15k, F7F probably $8k
We fliers enjoy the spectacular crashes (and this was a gooden) but we are not heartless we have been there ourselves and know the the emotions. Sympathy to the builders and pilots and thanks for being prepared to share. Two beautiful models that deserved their time in the air. Hopefully they donate their organs to a future project. Cheers from NZ.
Well said.
Outstanding stills from the video, Two of my favorite WarBirds
Semper Fi
A number of people here have complained that this video shows "Senseless," "Avoidable risk," "Showing off," "Hot Dogging," and "Taking Huge Risk's." While all of this is true TO SOME EXTENT, I normally fly large (100cc class) 3D aircraft, every flight is wrought with possible threats: Wind changes, mechanical, technical, structural, and pilot errors. Every flight. I've had losses, just like everyone else, and I work for a living, just like most of those in our hobby. But if I wanted to "play-it-safe," I'd be flying a trike trainer or Cessna in a slow race track pattern, and only when no one else was in the air.
The ONLY TIME I fly a warbird is in formation flight: they just don't have the performance or challenge for me otherwise. Flying R/C is a gamble, and like gambling, don't risk what you can't afford to lose. Mid-airs happen even when there are only 2 planes in the air, and people are flying conservatively. Personally, if I'm not being challenged, I'll stay home and watch TV. While I take great care of my planes and equipment before and after flying, my flying risks my aircraft, perhaps more than you do yours, but because of the skills I've developed by flying the way I do, I have prevented crashes too. My point is, if you want nothing more than to putt around with a Piper Cub, or stay aloft for an hour with your sailplane, more power to you. I would never put you down for it, but it would bore me to tears. If, however, someone else wants to fly 150 MPH pylon racing, or 3D, or formation, or whatever, I can't figure out why anyone would feel the need to castigate someone else willing to take a calculated risk to improve themselves. Unless it's jealousy.
It's jealousy. I say, no guts, no glory.
Im filing a report to the FAA about this. This was unnecessary lost of life two pilots, may they rest in peace.
@Jay Barker r/whoosh
@@coopereaton5263
Over his head and right out of the park.
Because they are too chicken shit or cheap to take that risk with their own a\c so they want nothing more than to prevent you from doing it. Reason, you may actually succeed in your attempt.
I really hate seeing such beautiful aircraft meet a tragic end. Looked like the F-9 pilot tried to eject, but the canopy stuck. The F-7 had no chance.
4:47 planes crash
5:54 crash slow mo
Just what I was looking for
i admire folks like you , keep up the good work.
thanks : ) ..
Thanks
Hero!
They were both beautiful aircraft, such detail. They were so accurately detailed is a better way to describe them. I am planning a trip to Texas the summer of '21, I'd like to visit this place when they have the soonest event to my arrival. I can only imagine the heartache the Pilots are going through with all the time and the love of their creation. Thank you for sharing.
Its an occupational hazard of RC flying and the hobby wouldn’t be the same without it. My wife claims i do it on purpose from time to time to make room in the garage for another one
then your wife will say you spend more time with that dam model then me just one thing you need to remember never upset a lady if she is in the kitchen a lot of things will go flying only not the model ???
And that response from her is bad or inaccurate HOW?!?
LMAO
Is she wrong lol
you married a smart lady .
Buy her own R/C plane and gave fun together.
The Navy was not happy upon finding out their F7F was constructed largely of wood.
when ya fly, ya crash. i fly quads now.
k
If wood was good enough for the Mosquito, it was good enough for Grumman.
"Shit, MY PLANE !!!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
A friend told me when I first got into the hobby, “ If it hurts your feelings to crash, your in the wrong hobby!”
Flatiron 53 ask his pocket if it hurts
Bruno Soares Don’t invest more than you are willing to lose.
If you fly model airplanes, you will indeed crash model airplanes....
I was told it's not if you will crash but when you will crash
@@gunrunner4637 Kind of like riding a motorcycle. I flew a P51 for a little while. Took me months to lovingly build it. Crashed on the 4th flight I think. It was heartbreaking and didn't have the heart to rebuild. Respect to the guys who love this so much they carry on. It wasn't for me but I certainly admire the planes and those who excel at building and flying them.
Rest In Pieces :-(
I have been flying RC since 1972, I've had more that a few mid-airs. In the formation flying we usually tried to match airplanes with similar performance. Having flying so many years plus building and tested many aircraft for Chermark and Nitroplanes, I've built up quite a collection of planes. When it came to formation flying I used a P-40, P-51, or FW-190 for the prop planes, F-4 , ME-262, or F9F Panther for EDF, B-25, B-17, C-47, or PBY Catalina for the multi engine, J-3 Piper Cub, or Cessna for the Civilian, Christensen Eagle, Pitts Special, or Areomaster for bi-planes. By far warbirds are the most impressive in formation. I had only one midair in formation flying and that was when my F9F nose clipped a F-4 wing and took out his aileron. A mid air is always a risk when we fly.
I used to watch the guys fly R/C in Cincinnati in the 80s and 90s. Dave Brown and the World Engines people were the regulars. Crashes were pretty regular, along with some great flying.
I am in love. I have only watched the start of the video. I could really get into this. Looks like fun. Watching these planes buzz around. Thanks for the video. Great work. Now I will continue watching the rest of the video.
This is one of the best videos online that I have ever seen. Shame about the crash naturally. However kudos to all involved in this video as I almost want to start this hobby myself. Or watch it somewhere
Outstanding photography, beautiful planes things like that have happened to me in my life and I reminded myself that nothing lasts forever just as in most of the real WW2 aircraft all we have left are photos and memories. Beautiful planes.
An emergency parachute for a collision like this would save hours of heartache. Both looked repairable until they hit the ground!
Great show guys.sorry for your lost...The joy and pain of this hobby...you gotta love it.
that black dude flying the baby blue dive bomber 'SBD Dauntless?' with perforated dive flaps was amazing, lol that high speed gear out touchdown was spectacular!
Navy #209 didn't seem to have much damage, by looking at the stills, but came down. what have I missed ?
thank you for sharing, i love large scale r/c, though i've never built or flown one, i know they are a huge ammount of time ,engineering,and fab work, it makes me cringe to see a crash, i hope everybody gets back up and flying soon!
Boys and their expensive toys! My heart aches for both flyers. This is an expensive hobby and I hopoe they can recover their losses and climb back into the air. Thank you
Why do they feel its necessary to have several flying at the same time?
If I spent that much time & money...there is no way I'm sharing air space....stupid...of course real airshow turn tragic when they do it.
I also notice that several times planes pass each other when doing low passes and then risk colliding when both pulling out because one is crossing by the other. Simple rule...call out you're doing a low pass and stay behind the guy already doing one ahead of you. It may be a little more structured but is no less exciting tonwatch and far less stressful to participate in. Just my two cents. Still kudos to all for flying and great builds.:-)
Don't like giving a thumbs up to something so tough to watch. But the images are so compelling and the aircrafts so amazing. Hazards of the trade I reckon. Thank you for sharing 💜
Its nice that they have photos of them, they were very nice models.
Ashes to ashes...these beauties returned to "kit form" in spectacular fashion. The photography is outstanding, as were both builds. RIP big birds of prey.
If only all vids on youtube were this good.....
You might have a look at my videos 😉🤘
It certainly didn't need some ill-informed narration over the song of those tiny engines.
That Tigercat was a gorgeous plane. (key tense there is "past")
I see the jet pilot managed to open his canopy, but unfortunately didn't manage to bail. RIP
Did anyone see any chutes?
i wont be impressed with scale realism until someone designs an ejector seat for their pilot when these happen.
They have them.
Properly speaking, neither of these aircraft would have had ejection seats. But that is a really cool idea.
Maybe if they could drop real bombs.
Lol if you look at the jet in the stills it looks like it failed
@@TC-tm3nq they used to make releases for plastic bombs you filled with flour to simulate a bomb. They were pretty cool the few times I saw one used. That was 1989 so I don't know if they are made anymore.
Outstanding beautiful warbirds, both pilots were excellent flyers. Excellent photography. If you want two flights bring two planes
"sweet dreams and flying machine in pieces on the ground"
I've seen fire and I've seen rain....James Taylor
Last week my sweet T-28 slipped a control arm on the rudder servo and crashed on base to final turn.....its okay...I walked away......a way down the field and picked up the pieces :-)
r.i.p. - replacement on the way
I have been to B-17 meet in years past and I have witnessed these warbird races and it is very entertaining! That's one of the reasons this meet is one of the best in the south! RIP BBW!
I grew up watching the Reno Air races, this looked just like the unlimited race. Unfortunately, including the crash I've seen so many of. What a loss
Heartbreaking, that F7F Tigercat was amazing.
Same
crazy
Heartbreaking for both. Since it has been 9 yrs from the video posting date, I wonder if both gentlemen got back into flying or did they hang up their wings? I really hope they both got back into flying…both planes were awesome to watch.
The Panther looked pretty much intact until impacting the ground...
what's needed is a system like the "Cirrus Aircraft" parachute system for your scale aircraft.
That is some exciting formation flying. Too bad the best two airplanes collided. Hate to see such disappointment. Glad the pre-crash footage was captured on camera. Enjoyed the thrills!
mark pa usa I dislike the wreacks because I understand what it takes 2 do all the work and time and love that goes into into something that u love, i'm the same way when someone gives me an antique ,classic firearm ,I do my very best on the restoration , thx so much 4 the vid , Ive had a few fails in my life
too many RC planes is a small airspace at speed.... simple to see it would eventually become a crash
Rest In Pieces to those brave pilots and their magnificent flying machines
The scale figure of William Holden survived the crash, only to be machine gunned by Chi Com infantry action figures. Scale Mickey Rooney and Earl Holliman action figures were also KIA. Where do we get such action figures?
It hurts me everytime I see one hit the ground!!! All the time, money and love that go into building one!!!
TOO THE BONE ,,,,,,,, it doesn,t have to be mine , The love that goes into it
Really great flying all around. Cool planes and a cool wreck. The breaks of Naval aviation, right?
Condolences indeed, beautiful planes. Happened so quick, and don't know the details, but is it just me, or did the jet almost look recoverable in its dive?
I guess this has been asked before but why don't these craft have a "panic chute"? If the carrier wave is lost the engines cut and a chute deploys or its pilot initiated following a structural failure. Its not impossible, Shirley!
Actually not a bad question, they do this with full sized planes now, in some cases, mostly light general aviation aircraft. At the time and expense these guys have in, it might be worth it.
Fly, crash, rebuild, fly. That's what R/C flying is all about.
Yes, If you have never crashed one, you have never flown one.
M Zajac Maybe to you..
Types of rc aircraft.
1. Crashed
2 about to crash
One of the better videos I have seen. Except for the middle out of focus part. Great stills at the end!
Jay Davis Thanks, I used a little bit of another video that may have come from a cell phone. Sorry about the focus, but it had good action.
How does someone get started in this beautiful hobby? Any info?
I feel for the guys in the crash. Hope they returned quickly.
The Tigercat was really something. And very skillfully piloted.
This is why they call it the Danger Zone.
LANA!!!
How much, approximately, for each airplane ?
That invisible date of when your plane is gonna be "rekitted" stamped inside every one of em
Any clarification of why the Panther could not be recovered? I can't see any damage apart from the dislodged canopy.
It appeared to get slowed down and thrown into a spin, with enough altitude he may have been able to recover it. Just my observation tho! I doubt you can tell if any parts failed after that crash.
I saw my first mid air back in 1989 between to jets. 1/5 scale I think. They hit head on at maybe 200 feet up. It spread the wreckage the entire length of the airstrip. People had called in to report 2 planes colliding it was so loud and real looking. The young kid was at fault and got mad, the older guy looked heart broken but knew crashes happened. Back then even cheap planes like I flew were several hundred dollars and a month to build. I felt so bad for the older guy. I got disoriented in the sun 2 weeks later and destroyed mine. I quite flying until 1998 or so and only flew cheap .049 planes or smaller cheaper electrics. What I paid $300 for back then can be gotten for $100 now all ready to fly. I don't know who was fault here but I feel bad for both. They were nice planes. I assume the jet lost engines at impact since the fuselage was not broken apart like the prop planes was. It is too bad he couldn't fly it down to a better ending. I was also in Texas in 1989. Near the Brazos river where the mosquitos were large enough to carry kids and small dogs away :)
Talk about busy skies, this reminded me of an aerial combat scene more than anything else with some many planes in the air at the same time. Very exciting to watch. Definitely some mismatch of planes with different capabilities, but that's what made it exciting to view. Sad that they lost two great looking and preforming planes though. I have been wondering if having a small digital camera would help in flying more accurately. Great video coverage of this event.
really sad loss for these guys.. in money and build time. but i think these guys will again fly in this style. its very exciting to fly this way as well as to watch it be done. as always i think the most important thing is no one gets hurt. the event was a really great time! hats off to the pilots that risk their machines to put on a great show!
I was there that day in 2012 when those beautiful aircraft collided, and crashed. It was sad, but the only thing anyone can do, is to rebuild, build new, or just change planes. I have 20 aircraft for just such emergencies.
The jet looked intact. Why did it crash too?
I usually lay down a cheap blue 5x7 tarp from harbor freight in the back of my vehicle before going to the field...that way I don't have to sweep it out .
sad to see, but I have to give kudos to the photographer. and camera quality. awesome crash pictures!
A bunch of big RC planes flying at different speeds seemingly without a plan - what could possibly go wrong? Shame about the Tigercat though. A very impressive model.
Looks like the jet was still intact after contact. Did he not have any control after the impact? Just curious.
amazing video my friend 💐 thanks for sharing
Who was filming the NTSB?
Normally I don't mind seeing the odd RC crash, especially when it's not my own but watching the death of these two beautiful birds was sad. They were well constructed, well proportioned and flown expertly by both pilots. In the air, there was very little to distinguish between them and the real thing. I would have expected if a producer was making a movie that required these types of aircraft, they could have been used without the audience realising they were models. I hope that both pilots don't give up and continue to build beautiful aircraft like the ones they lost. I have a suspicion that's exactly what they're going to do.
Oh boy what a concept they were flying real well until they come Clyde and crashed come on now and irresponsible at best
Two great looking and performing planes. I hope they recreate them. Sorry for that loss.
Love watching 'em fly! The "Oh S..." moments can be tough though !!! Lots of planes in the air !!
Too bad looks like the jet could have pulled out with a little more altitude
As a kid I used to pour fuel on my Testors model planes, light em up and throw them off the deck to simulate being shot down....love those crashes! Keep em coming!
Did the little guy in the jet eject??
Couldn’t see a canopy.
That panther was a sharp looking model!
I agree and VFA-192 aircraft livery remains among the best looking in the Navy-even in the awful flat gull gray over white years during which I served as a member of the Golden Dragons (1966-70).
That's the risk you take with so many in the air at once!
True, seems to happen more when there are only 2 in air in my experiences, like if they were magnetic! Part of the hobby.
This was nothing more than utter chaos in the sky. No coordination amongst the pilots on how they were going to fly. It’s a amazing that there were more.
what's he say about 5min mark? $25,000? ...Was he referring to the planes that went down? How much are they worth, like $12k each?
did the pilots eject on time??
Every modeler has a shit day my self had to dig a few motors out of the dirt but its always a time to start the next project love building as much as flying therapy I call it gets me into the man shed and away I go good luck with your next project .
Oh shite, my heart literally sinks to see that beautiful tigercat get cratered. A dream rc plane.
Great video and stills. I am planning on attending in Sept. So, what would you suggest on lenses, specifically tele-zooms? I shoot Fuji and will definitely bring along my 50-140 2.8 (70-200 2.8 doe FF DSLR equiv) and as I will be a spectator likely not getting close to the action would you suggest longer glass? Anywho, this is my first RC Airshow, so any suggestions and tips would be greatly appreciated.
Hi, you need some zoom for RC planes. This video was shot with a simple old Sony Cyber-shot with built in 20x zoom set at 1080 but 2 or 4k would be better to edit with. I got the photos from another guy. You can go up to the fence and be very close or up in the stans for a good view. The fall event is good, but not like it used to be when the owner was alive.
Seems like the Jet took out the Tiger, awesome crash video, would love to see more crash scenes.....
You're sick.Do you know how many skilled hours go into building one of these beauties?
Did the pilots get out ok?
Wondering if they have insurance on those planes?
Good evening from St John Parish, Louisiana 9 Sep 20.
Why do people fly large expensive models in a gaggle like that. They're good flyers but sooner or later.......
Handel
I agree with you! This happens a lot.
Some people aren't happy unless they're tempting fate. I thought the same thing.
It’s a thrill flying something that you made, even if it ends in disaster
Agreed, but don't agree with taking avoidable risks with valued built-up models , mine or others, for whatever reasons. Mid-airs are avoidable "accidents" .
Interesting to see RC warbirds around the country. Thanks for posting.
Funny all the comments on here about how sad the loss and worrying about cost. Yes its sad when we lose a plane,yes its costly,all AMA sites require insurance to fly. thats why we pay membership dues. The truth guys, flying is crashing,crashing is flying. Dont get me wrong,no body likes to lose a plane. We spend many hours,and plenty of money. It is more than that. Seeing peoples faces when we do shows is awesome,flying takes skill no doubt,but any RC pilot will tell you crashs happen. From the beginner to the expert,we all understand things happen,most unintentional. Equipment failure happends more than you can believe. Flying with other people in a show requires more than one person flying at a time,as humans,we make mistakes,especially when there are multiple planes up there at the same time. None of us are blue angel quality,but we are not amatures eather. My hat goes off to the pilots,they did a great job keeping their planes from landing in the spectator area dont you all agree?
Well said , but never the less , it is sad to see such wonderful models destroyed. After all the hours it must have taken to build them !
"they did a great job keeping their planes from landing in the spectator area dont you all agree?" nope, disagree on this one, after the collision, the pilots where spectators......they had no control over their planes, one of the planes didn't even have it's empennage left....
scott firman
Actually, I do not agree. In my opinion RC planes crash for the same reasons as full size planes. Pilot error, poor maintenance , bad weather, equipment failure, poor design, and human factors. We do not accept "flying is crashing" for full size planes. Why accept it for RC planes? There are lots of RC planes that survive years of hard flying and are retired intact.
I'm sure both pilots knew the risks of flying in this crowd pleasing mass formation. They chose to fly anyway - human factors. Anyways, we should never accept flying is crashing. Almost all are preventable. I would rather have that for a mantra personally.
good call . his was a very odd take on this art / sport . it was avoidable and moving forward from there you'd hope an emphasis on training and safety would be the new mantra .
In my opinion, you've never flown. So your opinion means squat.
Did the pilot's survive? I didn't see any parachutes. sorry. my bad.
So did the pilots eject? The crash was a real bummer for those who had a plane in the air - they couldn't watch it.
Very nice video production.
How does anyone get good at flying RC planes? I’m curious how many crashes each of these pilots have had in the course of their hobby. I love building model planes. Not sure how much I’d love crashing one, let alone mid-air with someone else.
That said, great video ! Well done, great detail if the event and crash.
Start with a simulator to do your crashes, then practice for a few weeks, then if you have a lot of talent and a lot more practice and years, you may fly like the guys in the video. Kinda like just driving a car or being able to race a car on a track or weekend golfers compared to pro golfers. Crashing is part of the hobby, but maybe not so often and with repairable damage.
Where was Forney & Nestor ?
Inevitable with that many aircraft in the air with differing flight enveloppes and low level hot dogging. When the skies get that busy, I put mine back on the ground asap
Love those classic navy warbirds. Always sad to see good planes die, real or otherwise.