Yaesu FT-891 HF Radio Review and Usage for DXpedition | HF Ham Radio
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- Yaesu's newest HF mobile radio has some cool new features, but leaves out other options of its predecessors. Let's take a look at the radio unboxing, menus, and see it used on the air.
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Picked up one of these to replace the FT-857D in the mobile. It is a great radio!
I've been using this radio for three years - great transceiver!
Thinking about getting this one . Lots power doesn’t break the bank . Only digital mode I’m interested is APRS and I have pico APRS v3 and FT5DR
just scored mine for 629.99 USD total with a free desk mic. I own an FT-991, a FT-817nd, and other yaesu handhelds / mobiles. The 891 is the first "modern" mobile radio they've released in years. Yaesu is far overdue for a refresh of the 817nd and 857. The mechanical filters of those radios are far outdated. As far as I can tell...the 891 is a steal and can be had for 599 usd now.
I bought mine the other day on Monday and got it the next day and on Wednesday I ordered the Yaesu FC-50 antenna Tuner . I live in a Apartment Complex an using the Rain gutter for the antenna and it works okay..
So after 4 years which do you prefer for the field: Icom ic-7300 or Ft-891
At the end you say "there are better options out there". What would you pick instead? Looking at one of these for QRO portable some day maybe. Always really liked the look of the 857D, though.
I just ordered one of these rigs. One of the attractions to me was the LACK of V/UHF. I already have a dual bander in my vehicle so I don't need V/UHF and there is no sense in paying for it if I don't need it. I think it will be the perfect mobile rig for me.
This comment makes sense with the price of this radio TODAY. When it released, it was over-priced without the VHF/UHF features. Don't forget that the previous models of this radio had VHF/UHF all-mode, so it was more than just an FM Dual Bander
I rarely use the VHF/UHF ability on HF rigs. I buy specifically for HF operation and would rather use a dedicated separate transceiver for 2M. I concur with your opinion.
857 & 891 are the same board just different options available concerning wattage,battery packs etc.
Looking at both atm for some outdoor usage over the Summer, so will keep you posted.
I own an FT-891 and I really like it as a portable on the go radio. I know the specs say it has 2.0 amp draw on standby. The specs are wrong. I have two watt meter and power analyzers that I've check mine against, they both read less than half (.98a). I love its DSP/DNR, but I still don't want to give up my FT-857, I like em both.
891 is a fantastic affordable intro appliance. The audio filters are decent and it's easily customizable for CW and SSB use. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for watching
@@HamRadio2 dit dit 💯 appreciate your passion and wisdom for the king of all hobbies. Keep up the great work.
HRO had a great deal on them for $550 What a steal! this radio is worth twice that and beats the 817, 857 and 897 with the new roofing filter and the DSP
I wouldn't call it a "steal" but that is a decent price, and a lower price than it was when I recorded this video.
Hi Jason. Just watching this and thinking about a first HF rig. I've been around Amateur Radio for a long time. However Haven't really gotten beyond Licensing. (wife just woke up. Gotta go. will get back.) Just wondering if this video is just the radio? Stand alone? or what else are you needing to be on the air during this video presentation. I just want to start... Thanks. W8LMC
It's a completely different radio than the 857, adding the IF DSP to the rig is a tremendous leap forward from an 857! It is a worthy upgrade! With those other features like built in sound card interface and USB cat control it's a much better rig. If you want the best of both worlds find a good used Icom IC-7000 , it's as close your gonna get to the best blend of 857 and 891
Question what kind of screwdriver type antenna can I use, looking at Carolina tar heel or yaesu ats 120
Wesley, Don't know if you've already got a antenna. I have this radio and Bought a Wolf River Coils TIA for POTA,SOTA and general portable use. And could not be Happier with it. 73's AG7UJ
Per your comment on the 891 receive-this thing hears signals my 706 NEVER could!
Agreed. The Receiver on the 891 is much newer and better.
Great video! I just took delivery of my 891 and am looking forward to trying it out. By the way, I really got a kick out of your "man cave" sign! It's awesome!!!
That sign is still hanging in here lol
@@HamRadio2 that's great! I'd love to get one of those for my "man cave"! 😂
Hi there. What is that radio (looks like a big HT with a large screen), to your left, our right?
The RFinder, probably
I agree. The 891 may be a fantastic rig for what it does. I don't know, I don't have one, but I do have and have had a 857 for about 12 years or so and I just can't see the reason for it other than forcing everyone to move to the 991A (which I think as a great 'shack in a box' rig for the shack but it ain't no mobile/portable 'shack in a box' rig that the 857 was).
I initially got my 857 to do mountain topping VHF/UHF contesting (before SOTA/POTA EXISTED) and came to love it for the whole complete radio that it is.
I love the 'Shack In A Box' concept. I bought my Kenwood TS-2000 for the home shack in about 2005 and have never looked back.
I think there is a much larger desire/demand for this concept in a rig than we would be led to believe. Kenwood had the base 2000 rig and Yaesu gave us the portable and even mobile 857 with the ATAS antenna option. Both FANTASTIC rigs that serve a much desired and in my opinion needed purpose.
I know how popular the Kenwood 2000 is/was. You only have to go to Wikipedia where it points out that the 2000 has more eHam.net reviews than any other rig on that site. And I know that the 857/897 had to be one of the most popular rigs ever sold!
I never went to a Field Day without seeing one or several around setup up operating. You can go watch almost any YT DXped videos and you almost always see a 857 sitting somewhere between all the K3's doing something. It's just too good, versatile, and reliable not to have around.
No one is filling this void or niche now.
As I get older and my eyesight gets worse and worse I defiantly appreciate a larger display but I would rather keep the V/U capability of the 857.
If Yaesu wanted to make a HF only mobile rig, then fine. Just charge less than the 857 and keep the 857 in production, or better yet make a 857 capable radio with a larger display and maybe charge a few more bucks for it.
I think making the 891 with a larger display while dropping the VHF/UHF bands and charging more for it and then discontinuing the 857 was a HUGE mistake!
Just my opinion for what little that's worth.....
73
857D was about 850 when it came out give a few months and when the frenzy comes down so will the price
Yep, I suspect you are correct.
Do I need a tuner to operate this radio?
Doesnt the DSP2 be improved too ?
Can you ask HRD why their software won't switch side-bands on the FT-891? My self and everyone else I asked have that issue. Not sure if you can test.
I'll ask
whats the pda looking thing with the rubber duck to the right of the screen near the end?
That is my RFinder Android DMR Radio. Look for a video on that next week.
www.ANDROIDDMR.com
i like the start so ill get my tuff up an and done a vid nige m6ltv west uk 73s
What other options do you think is better in your opinion as you stated in the end of this video
This video is several years old. Today, I think the FT-891 is 1-of-a-kind, sadly.
Good video ❗️. Just watched your video on best 6 HF Radios for under $1000 and was kind of surprised that you didn’t include the FT891 now that you can get it for a little over $600❓🤔❓❓❓
Got one of these yesterday, lot smaller than I thought, not sure what I make of it yet
It is the size I expected - about the same as the FT-857D. I saw one at Dayton in May of 2016, so this wasn't a shocker to me.
It looks and sounds like a good radio with a great display, but without VHF/UHF ssb I'll stick with my 857d's
You don't get the separation cable or stand for the head and other goodies u get with the form 100 I recently got aswell
F t m
Correct.
What was the reason for the stroke in the callsign and what does it mean in this case
I don’t know the details, but something in that format is often required when operating in a different country than issued your license - the ARRL has a page with some details.
It took a long time to "cut-to-the-chase". However, a good preliminary review.
Thanks for the comments. Yes, I have changed my format since this video was recorded over 3 years ago.
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Many thanks!
What's the best or low cost 2m radio for SSB ?
the best and low cost are mutually exclusive. What do you really want?
$850 in 2016. $630 now- great radio now to grab!!!
Supposedly the radio has better DSP and support features as for loosing the UHF/VHF its not a great loss unless you just can't have 2 radios in your vehicle/shack.
I agree the DSP is better than the older models.
My main complaint about losing VHF/UHF is that it should be a lower price since you are losing 2 bands.
But your gaining filters and more options
James Scouten why not just make a better newer 857
The FT891 is way beyond the old FT857, since if offers IF-DSP, requires NO extra filters like the old FT857, which used old technology audio DSP. I don't need vhf or uhf in my HF radio, so 6 meters is enough. I might just trade my mint FT-950 for one.
Bill A Several people seem to feel that way
Good summary thank you!
Nice vid, thanks for sharing.
A really nice rig, hope it will not have the same destiny as the FT991.
RX consumption is a little high for portable use (1 amp).
Curious to know how the NB performs on these... 73 de ha7wx chris
I had AGC activated in the QSOs in this video, and with that going, I don't notice much difference when activating NB. The Wide/Narrow and Notch filters seem to work well.
have they fixed the switching from USB and LSB issue? can you easily switch from USB to LSB on any band now or do you have to do weird menu work around stuff?
Last I heard, you still do the menu dance.
Are you going to show us the filters, try and clean up that signal?
Yep, its in the video
This dude is ham radio ROYALTY. He's the big cheese, the master, the BOSS!
Hi from NYC, n2eye. Nice review i need a new qrp all mode HF rig.
Radio is now about $600, got it on sale with tax for about $590.
Are the new models of this radio still suffering from interference through the headphone jack?
Is the TX power variable??
also tried find the answer but zero result. had called to dealler and he answered YES. strange description of this model...
Is that Ubuntu unity?
Hey just wanted to let you know: the price on every website currently is $699. Haven't seen ANY going for $850 like you stated. Just wanted to let you know.
73, KC3HZW
At the time of this video recording, they were $850-$870. It shouldn't surprise you that the price on the radio dropped after being out for a few months, this happens to all radios the same way.
Ham Radio 2.0 Okay yes, I figured as much but I'm surprised it dropped that much in only a month! Would you recommend the radio for $699? Seems solid, same price as the FT450D, but with a few more features.
Scope seems pretty rubbish up to now but conditions not been great in uk to test it all proper yet.
The scope was OK. I liked the notch filter.
i need to do more testing yet before the jury is out on this rig
funny how the price drops, bought one for $589 delivered.
2020 just got one shipped for $560
@@Mr_Meowingtons Where did you find it for that price? Lowest I see now is $614
The 32 bit high speed floating Point DSP is why it has a higher price
Chris Woods The Price on the radio today is much more reasonable, which is where it should have been in the first place
Hi
Many thanks for the great video, I'm thinking of buying one, can you tell me the measurement of the height of the radio from the deck when using the radio's stand (in mm)? As I will be using it under a shelf unit.
AlexGM0WNR
I can't, sorry. I sold this radio shortly after I did this review. I would like to keep all of the radios I review, but I can't afford to.
It is roughly the size of the FT-857D
No it isn't overpriced even though they took out VHF and UHF they added other options .I wish they added an internal sound card to run Digi modes.I have never used the 2m and 70cm in my 857 and they addressed the all the shortcomings of the 857.The only thing I d like to see now is drop price to $800 and throw in separation kit for free that is the deal I had when I bought my 857 or add internal sound card and price remain about where it is
Well you say it isn't overpriced, then you say you'd wish they drop it to $800.
I believe it is over-priced. Most radios will drop in price after they've been out for a while. The cool thing about the 857D isn't just VHF/UHF, it is also that VHF/UHF is all-mode. So you can't just get a FTM-100 or a Kenwood V71A to replace the missing VHF/UHF from the 857D, because those are FM-only radios. If you use SSB on VHF/UHF, as I do, then it takes even more away from the features of the 857D.
Yes the HF is updated with more features than the 857D, but to me that isn't worth dropping VHF/UHF all-mode and raising the price by $100.
They only dropped the price on 857d a few months before the release of 891 to try to reduce the stockpile if it wasn't for the 891 then the price would be about $800 for 857.They did the same thing with the 897 just be for 991 came out. even if both were $800 or so they would be cheaper than the Icom (7000 not 7100) and Kenwood options.I have used Icom and Kenwood VHF/UHF and yaesu radios in a 18wheeler hauling Farm and oilfield equipment off road as well as on and the durability of icom and Yaesu where much better so taking Kenwood out of the equation that it leaves Icom and Yaesu. Icom is more expensive then the 857 or 891 so it is a good value at around 800 plus or minus yes they took away VHF and UHF but if they kept it in the 891 then it would increase the cost to about the price of ic7000.when you look at the bigger picture from all manufactures it is a good price.
The 857D price has been around the same amount for about a year now, actually.
I agree in not including Kenwood because they don't make a radio similar to these, except maybe the TS-2000, but it isn't a mobile radio.
After the IC-7000, Icom doesn't actually make a radio like this anymore either, if you discount the IC-7100 which is overpriced due to it including DSTAR. BUT the IC-7100 is a lower price than the FT-991, and quite frankly is a better radio than the FT-991.
The $850 price of the FT-891 isn't a bad price for a 100-watt mobile HF radio, it just doesn't align with the rest of their product line, and that was my point.
Ok a year ago but still the reason to lower the price was to start clearing the stock in preparation for the 891 for more than a decade the 857 has been around it was priced between $800 and $850 some dealers threw the separation kit for free I paid $799 with free seperation kit 2011 most of the $800 to $850 was to do with dealer mark up when the newness goes away the price will come down to the same price the 857d sold for over the last 10 or more years for around $800 I think the original 857 hit the market in the 90s.the 891 will level out and sell for the average of 857 the new features coast about the same to manufacture today as the 2m and 70cm did in the 857 .The coast is set not on what you would pay so much as manufacturer shiping wholesale and retail profit.Just because it isn't perfect for your needs doesn't mean it is overpriced the 891 will sell for the same average price that the 857 did during it's run and it has been around long then any other competitor's options . FYI I got my 857d in 2011 from Gigaparts it ended up on back order because of the earthquake that damaged the Nuke plant in Japan they had to reroute it to exit another port
Kenwood TS-480SAT 100W HF/50MHZ All-Mode Transceiver w/ Built-in tuner kenwood does make a mobile 2 in fact 1 with tuner and 1 without but 200w output
it would have been nice to have a number pad on the mic to key in the freq..
There is a lot less noise when the DNR is on.
Yes that is the big feature that I didn't hear in this video. Some people don't like the effects caused by DNR, but I like being able to reduce the atmospheric noise so I hear mostly voices.
I got mine about 2 weeks ago for $540... new
thought about this radio. But the little things. I don't know. Maybe the 857. Seems like a better deal. Just a thought.
lost vhf/uhf.. and missed huge opportunity to ADD C4FM. i have the 991 with C4fm and this could have been a good mobile companion rig (C4FM on 6 meter would be a plus with band sensitive to man-made noise)
IMHO... a big miss. I'll save my $$$ for v.2 (maybe)
-rob
Fusion would have jacked the price up even more. The FT-991 has Fusion, they need to have one without it for those folks who don't care about digital, especially on HF
The 857d rx is terrible. Owned a few for mobile and i was always tweaking it to hear stations. I would never own one again. Now the 891 has a better rx on paper. At new 567.00 from r and l electronics i bought one for mobile. Could careless about 2/440 to many cb extras.
Agreed on the RX of the 891, it is quite good. Also it is a great price right now. The 2/440 missing is not just FM though, it is also sideband, which is quite fun to do.
Since IF DSP does cost more to implement it makes sense it will cost more to buy, and should make the receiver on the 891 much better than the 857/897.
However receive current consumption has gone way up (by almost 3 times) making this new radio less desirable for portable use on battery power.
You're too much,
Jason 🤘
629.00 for the 891 and still in the 800 park for 857
Not at the time of this video recording, about 7 months prior to your comment.
Ham Radio 2.0 oh well that im 100 percent sure of i just threw the prices there for a quick moment in time comparison. on a side note are you still using your 891? if so how do you like it? mine is on order
I used it for about a month, then sold it. The filtering on it was very good. Now that it has come down in price, it should be a great mobile rig, I think.
HRO has it for $700
At the time of this video recording, they had it for $860
Ham Radio 2.0 By the way, I enjoyed your video. It was very informative. I'm thinking of getting my general class license and setting up an HF station. The FT-891 seems like the way to go.
It is a good radio with nice filters. Now that they dropped the price on it, it is more worth the money, imo.
what a noisey radio sounds like an old fm cb radio, .. jeff..
My mistake you did include it, I am getting old and forgetful 🤔❓❓
Lol
Who cares about vhf/uhf. Just run a separate dual bander. Unless you are in to vhf/uhf ssb. Dont matter . I going to get one soon. I have a 991 so don't care bout the vhf/uhf.
kev mar Your 991 has VHF/UHF and it runs them all mode. the good thing about the 857 and 991 is that they'll do all mode, not just FM
ic-7300 only
Not only. But the IC7300 is better than this rig, for sure
@Ham Radio Extreme And why shouldn't they be? If it's good enough for an Icom 7851 and an FTDX101MP and if it's a helpful tool then you too should be enamored with it as well.
891A is the newedt
No 891A
Consider using a smaller mike.... that mike is way to big and distracting in front of your face.
LOL this video is over 3 years old. I can't count the number of changes that have happened since I recorded this. However, this is a HAM RADIO channel...guess what Hams use to talk on their base station radios...
@@HamRadio2 I looked at one of your later videos much improved how you do it now. Very true about what hams talk into but they are not making a video either.
FT-891 in Germany 650€ 😉
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The radio body looks just like my 857D. Be a hoot if all they did was add a new control head to the old body. ;) Not that they did that...
dude, you need to update your video on this radio. Its only $649.00 now at HRO. Id be more of a fan of yours if you kept up to date rather than reposting a 6 yr old video. C'mon Jason get with the game.
Reposting? You can clearly see it's 6 years old so why do you think it's been reposted? Radio prices change continually, this isn't news.
because in the video you clearly price it at $800. Im just saying an updated video on it would be awesome. I just ordered mine from hro. Cant wait to get it set up along with my ft-450. 73s
Hers is a little hint: _rehearse_ your presentations before you end up showing us your shoulder and furtive glimpses parts of the product. Seem like a plan?
TH-cam now allows you to see the date each video was posted. You might try comparing that to the date on your watch or phone to learn how old a video is. Then try watching something newer and see how much has changed.
You might want to redo your video. You can't hear nothing you say or what's going on in your radio.
I can hear it fine. But I have done several updates to this one also
For this to be HF the signal and audio sounds terrible
sounds to me your a bit bias
poor hat...Found On Radio Dead.
But on a serious note...glad you did a vid on this.
Have your facts and prices before filming; guessing isn't impressive
Prices were accurate at the time of this recording
ft891 Noise Machine.....