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The Curious Convergence of Spinoza and Advaita Vedanta

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  • @sagnikgangopadhyay4687
    @sagnikgangopadhyay4687 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I got to know of Spinoza from an Advaitin Guru.. Swami Sarvapriyananda of the Vedanta Society of New York

  • @joechip4822
    @joechip4822 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    People who find this a perennial philosophy, which underlies many, if not all philosophical and religious concepts as a common ground, especially considered their metaphysical aspects - may find the book from Aldous Huxley with the same name 'The Perennial Philosophy' of great value.

  • @CarldeFigueiredo-lf2gc
    @CarldeFigueiredo-lf2gc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Wonderfully clear explanation both of Spinoza's conception of God and Advaita Vedanta. Thank you!

  • @leighsos3101
    @leighsos3101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sooo glad I found your channel! Please keep posting videos.

    • @PhilosophyCorner-bd1uh
      @PhilosophyCorner-bd1uh  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you @leighsos3101 many more to come :)

    • @leighsos3101
      @leighsos3101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great! I will keep my eyes peeled 👀@@PhilosophyCorner-bd1uh

  • @sumitdutta7043
    @sumitdutta7043 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Well Swami Samarpananda of Ramkrishna Miission said that Spinoza's God is likely more closer to Vishistadwata.
    He himself is Adwaitin btw

  • @giantessmaria
    @giantessmaria 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    thank you, wonderful video! i look forward to more like this

  • @mdebarshi
    @mdebarshi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It is very important to let the ones who want to wander, wander.
    (Who knows, may be they are wandering right.)

  • @betweenearthandsky4091
    @betweenearthandsky4091 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You have a very soothing voice 🙏

  • @sumitrashankarchamoli8547
    @sumitrashankarchamoli8547 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Spinoza was a rationalist . And in advait vedanta there are several other concepts which spinoza might not have agreed . Spinoza substance was a response to Descartes dualism . And Advaita vedanta is heavily loaded with innumerable superstitious beliefs , superficially there might seem that two are identical, but if you study spinoza and adi shankara, who was the biggest proponent of advait vedanta, there are many divergences in their understanding of the world , especially in their methods. One believes in the unflagging ability of reason , while the other at some point even rejects inference and other logical concepts. Spinoza's own views are left to multiple interpretations, ranging from panthesim , atheism to panentheist panetheist. Like spinoza , Adi shankara has been accused of atheism by other branches of hinduism . Sipnoza concept of substance , which is derived exclusively in the structure of euclid geometry , does not resemble shankaras conception of the brahmaan , which though devoid of all attributes , may manifest in deities , upholding the traditional worship of deities .

    • @avi2125
      @avi2125 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good points. Shankara does reject dry logic - shushka tarka - but not altogether. He suggests understanding the logic of shruti, the scriptures. Because Advaita asserts that one cannot know certain events by normal pramanas - means of knowledge. Say Creation/shrishti. No one has seen it - pratyaksha, so no inference either etc.

    • @AnthonyMetivierMMM
      @AnthonyMetivierMMM 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Some people who talk about Advaita Vedanta may will load it with superstitious belief, but I'm not convinced they've understood the main tools of the philosophy, such as adhyaropa and apavada.
      Note too that neither A.V. nor Spinoza pretend that there is something done or final about these tools. They come out of reality itself and are subject to Becoming, a Becoming that is most likely to be perceived with greater clarity thanks to discernment and discrimination. In other words, inquiry, not belief.
      Thus, anyone who believes in anything (at least for longer than a few minutes) is unlikely to be using either Advaita or Spinoza's tools in any substantial way.

    • @vish2553
      @vish2553 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Go to a Advaitic guru and learn the basics please. You are wrong in your assumptions and all based on little knowledge.

    • @sumitrashankarchamoli8547
      @sumitrashankarchamoli8547 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@vish2553 if I have rudimentary knowledge of advait vedanta, then go and read shankar bhasya , which was originally composed by adi shankara . And there you will see the interpretation of brahman or brahma , based on vedic literature and Shruti , rather than relying on the power of reason to deduce substance in spinoza ethics .they seem distinct to those who lack originality and depth , like you who understands neither , and are but glibs .

  • @dr.satishsharma1362
    @dr.satishsharma1362 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Excellent.... thanks 🙏

  • @JacobSidi-nw7kn
    @JacobSidi-nw7kn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All music during presentation detract and disturbs. No exception here

  • @1959400
    @1959400 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Absolutely Excellent!!! Thank you

  • @juvenalhahne7750
    @juvenalhahne7750 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A ideia de convergencia me parece com o conceito matematico de denominador comum.
    Nao sera abusivo aplica-lo a sistemas tao logicamente fechados em si mesmos, tendo em vista que cada um deles ja e ou se apresenta como denominador de tudo que pode ser pensado?
    O melhor para quem gosta de fazer convergencias nao seria criar seu proprio sistema?

  • @jerry-mind-sky
    @jerry-mind-sky 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you , thank you for finding the pararel ! Adwaita Vendanta is reprezented by great masters like Sri Ramana Maharishi and Guru Nisargadatta who main metod to experience trsnscendence was constant question ,, Who am I ,, . Nice day.

  • @sdutta8
    @sdutta8 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Similar realizations were encountered by Ibn Arabi and Meister Eckhart. Of course, why should that be surprising? Fire making was discovered by Man independently in many parts of the world.

  • @mobiustrip1400
    @mobiustrip1400 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Islands that appear separated by an ocean, are one continent underneath it all. The one who reads this, is the one who wrote this 🙏

  • @danielhopkins296
    @danielhopkins296 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Contradicting your first sentence is that Schopenhauer intuitively pointed out Christianities deoendency on Buddhism

  • @mk-tl8pi
    @mk-tl8pi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great vid

  • @krishnamayimarianni8026
    @krishnamayimarianni8026 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent

  • @SajiSNairNair-tu9dk
    @SajiSNairNair-tu9dk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    👉universe sing flowing

  • @rareword
    @rareword 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Atman is actually the universal soul, not the individual soul.

    • @karlpayse
      @karlpayse 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Might look at a difference between satguna and nirguna.

    • @apassagebeyond108
      @apassagebeyond108 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Atman is the reflection of Brahman that exists within everything. They are ultimately one and the same.

  • @virgilioblanco
    @virgilioblanco 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The assertion of "GOD IS LIFE", "GOD IS LOVE" should put all the "RELIGIONS" and the "Thinkers", "Philosophers", and "Gurus" in their proper contects. Only the the "RELIGIONS"were intercepted, edited to suit the goals of that "Fallen Angel", and all those that came after pretending "higher" knowledge all fell to satisfying the goals of the interference of the Divine Spiritual Teachings meant to awaken the minds to "Harmonized" with that "Essence of Being" WITHIN each "Rational" being for the fruitful existence of mankind. The likes of "Socrates", "Plato", "Spinoza" and subsequent "Thinkers" were all subjected to the manipulations of the written word to fit the nefarious intent orchestrated by the creation of a Masterpiece Theatrical Production that opens with GENESIS, to include the editing of ALL the "DIVINE TEACHINGS" meant to ILLUMINE HUMANITY. Most effective in the times of sparse intellect, most destructive in sebsequent times of "advanced" intellect where "Academia" contributes to the convenient definition of words or terms. More like the long era of "Profound Superficiality". All stemming from the Epitomy of TRUTH accomplshed during the EGYPTIAN'S SCHOOLS OF HIGHER LEARNING that was more focus on THE LAWS OF GOD AND THEIR PRACTICAL APPLICATION, Aka, MYSTICISM (it's ORIGINAL definition) than the benefits of the "Material" world and it's clout and opulence, the latter the core interest of that "Fallen Angel", that by this stage have succeded in dismantling all that relates to REAL TRUTH (=the Forbidden Fruit) and GOD'S MANIFESTATIONS and the PROGRESSION OF SUCH. Now any reference of "Spinoza" and the likes is only rehashing fabricated conclusions and edited views. Considering that isolating one's "SOUL" from IT'S uncorruptedness and ETERNAL properties is the equivalent to willful ignorance being propagated. Some are INSIDE looking out watching the pretend knowledgeable recruit gleeful gullibles into stagnation, mutual destruction and celebrating their GODLESSNESS with glitter and opulence in the bloodletting, stench and chaos that they sponsor, the triumph of the intent of "Revenge". Maxim: "HE WHO PLOT REVERGE ASSURES HIS/HER OWN DESTRUCTION".

  • @rahulpaturkar1425
    @rahulpaturkar1425 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well there are half a dozen schools of Advait Darshan/School each have its own stream of philosophy endorsed by many Enlightened Rishis each one of them perceived to be at the same or above level of enlightenment as that of the Buddha!.
    The fundamental unity within all of these supreme philosophies is the law of Karma and reincarnation. Appropriating Spinoza with the Upanishads would be an adventurous feat in itself..

  • @scottconlon5124
    @scottconlon5124 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yes there is a "God" but it's not me rather I exist in the mind of

    • @miguelatkinson
      @miguelatkinson 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Theistic idealism

    • @jamescareyyatesIII
      @jamescareyyatesIII 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're a figment in this God's mind?

  • @sree18697
    @sree18697 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    upanishads are vedas.. the end of vedas...

  • @omkarbhausahebchattar5407
    @omkarbhausahebchattar5407 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I see Spinoza converge not in. Advaita but in Spinoza.... Also if you think there are no convergence then I feel that you haven't read read Indian philosophy

  • @user-ru1vs7cs9w
    @user-ru1vs7cs9w 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @saliksayyar9793
    @saliksayyar9793 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He was probably in part influenced by the Andalusian mystic Muhiyuddin Ibn Arabi who had developed the concept of pantheism in Iberia and North Africa. Spinoza’s family were Sephardic Jews from Portugal. So Ibn Arabi’s influence was more likely than the unknown Hindu sources in Europe .

    • @thestyleplaza4634
      @thestyleplaza4634 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Where is your source ? Sanathan was studied in Europe and it was written that Abrhamic religions were like kindergarten books compared to sanathan dharma literature

    • @Heretic-007
      @Heretic-007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Unknown" Yeah totally.

    • @thewhatorwhy
      @thewhatorwhy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just mention Hinduism anywhere and the Hindu fascists arrive in seconds. They think the internet is just another place to build a grand temple and load it with mental cowdung.

    • @ishaanrohmetra3447
      @ishaanrohmetra3447 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      indo arab or indo persian trade is older than jesus let alone islam.

  • @user-ii7rp1mg2o
    @user-ii7rp1mg2o 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍👏

  • @frialsharefabdo7715
    @frialsharefabdo7715 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    💚💚💚🙏🙏🙏

  • @69Kevrod2012
    @69Kevrod2012 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1