I strongly disagree and much prefer the shape, size and functionality of the PSP Go. Only issue with that is it being far behind the PS Vita which itself is behind current gen consoles, making the PSP Go only good for enjoying PSP titles or emulation of older games like Pokemon Emerald. :v All Sony would have to do is make another PSP Go with modern specs and I'd buy it, even if it's 2x the price of its competitors. They seem uninterested in making legitimate portable consoles, though. Sad. :
It's incredible how many different options we have nowadays on the handheld market! I love the secondary display, it's such a cool and useful feature. You killed me with playing youtube on it, it's exactly what I'd do. xD
I though I was the only one that has media playing in the background while playing games, but apparently it's more common than I though. Could watch game guides while playing a game right there and then. So many things you can do.
@@AdmiralBison Yeah, you could have some sort of guide open, when you are trying to either get an achievement, or just complete a puzzle on which you gave up. Or troubleshoot an issue you are having in the game. I love playing Fallout 4. Not the best game ever made, but I like building bases, which can be very time consuming. Having a podcast playing on the secondary screen would be so nice. xD
Instead of duel screening my mini pcs ...I have 2 running on 2 different screens. One for my TV shows watching and one for gaming. My actual TV get no love no more lol
I really wish people understood the videos on this channel are not reviews... They're just first look/hands on videos. I love this format bc it allows you to cover a wide range of products.
@@richarddukard8989 I'll believe it when I start seeing bad reviews from him, but from what I've seen most everything gets glowing remarks. Also, the fact that price is never mentioned is another hint to these being closer to advertiseents.
I didn't think I would want something like this before I started watching the video. I do like reading walkthroughs when I'm playing long RPGs. That second screen would also be nice as an on-screen keyboard. It seems like having the added versatility would be nice over a dedicated keyboard on the handheld.
Too bad you don't criticize products and have the viewers find more info about it. Your channel would be a lot better if you show the cons of products and make your viewer base aware instead of just advertising products. Edit: seems like people aren't understanding that I mean his channel in general notice how I said product*s*.
This! I like his quick transitioning, but you can tell he's a sellout, never includes the cons, while owning all of them, crazy to me tbh, but best quick interviews for sure, like you said though he does need to start including the cons, no excuses for it and I'm not the one to accept them
Yeah, most of these “reviewers” will never say a bad thing as they won’t get sent more devices. AyaNeo makes poor quality products that don’t last and are not supported with updates etc. They just keep flooding the market with new products.
@@fastshuther I wouldn't say he's a sellout as much but obviously he isn't reviewing products he's showcasing features at this point. I would like reviews from him because this is the only channel that actually does tech handhelds and other stuff.
I actually really like this. Like having a second monitor in your handheld, with the benefits of the clamshell design. The top screen being 120hz is very nice as well.
Bruh steam deck can only go up to 3.5ghz and not even 1080p display unless expensive version. And only 512gb space compared to 2tb of the ayaneo ds. Also, the new steam deck patch has bricked my steam deck.....
@@charlesgentry3758 neither could the game boy but it's still outsole this competitor, because battery life and overall cost are more important than power.
These devices are more for handheld enthusiasts or people who want to do more than the Steam Deck is capable of. If not enough people wanted them they wouldn’t exist. Steam Decks are sold at a loss.
Well the base Steam Deck has a very small storage. You can fit like two modern AAA games. A much suitable comparison would be the top spec Steam Deck. But even at the current stage the Steam Deck is very behind on specs.
@@sjneow like every other handheld on the market right now the internal SSD is replaceable with the addition of the microSD card slot, so complain about storage is honestly just stupid. And as I mentioned in a comment above about the gameboy out selling its competitor despite being underpowered, power alone does not sell a device to the masses, it's battery life and overall cost as even as it stands now steam hardware survey less than 18% of CPUs past 3.3 GHz and about 60% of the primary display resolution is still 1080p.
I'm very mixed. I own a 3ds with over 120 physical games. I would only buy this to maybe upscale them, or maybe use it for romhacks. But then you gotta wonder if its really worth $300 more than a steam deck(lcd). Tech like this is really neat, but it's so expensive for what it is.
Now with the major players entering the handheld PC space, these gimmicks is all companies like AyaNeo has left to draw in the buyers. As they can't compete on the value the other companies can, so they need to offer things that might appeal to a wider audience. They won't sell at the numbers of an ASUS, but they will keep enough gamers interested who might want the more unique options of something like this. For me personally, yeah, Steam Deck all the way, but this is interesting for sure.
this handheld is perfect. you can play ton of 3ds (perfect screen position ) and other emulator to. with small formfactor but 7 inch screen. and 780m GPU is perfect for emulator and some pc games.
Frankly it infuriates me if you want more RAM you get the larger SSD foisted on you. Not like you can just upgrade the RAM, If they had a 516 GB+32 GB. RAM tier I would feel much differently so in the $800 range instead of $900 and over.
Not gonna talk about the most important thing are we? How's the battery life? Given that the screen is one of the bigger drains, so having two of them could be a problem.
Dude, you got to start listing cons. For every product you get, you praise it, like if it was sent to you by God himself. All in all still a decent device not worth switching over from my current one I was really curious about that extra screen for DS games. Thanks!
For me this just makes me excited for the likes of Anbernic eventually bringing out far more affordable devices in this style that can run 3DS and Wii U titles but aren’t made for higher end PC titles so are more affordable.
Amazing... The subnotebook/handheld PC has come back with a roar. Sony tried something like this in the early 2000s with the PCG-U1 and U3 models in Japan, but they didn't do so well. But now we have APUs that are so powerful that they can easily do this. What a time to be alive lol
You could try playing with a drawing tablet. 😂 It wasn't bad when I tried it years ago, probably the best alternative rather than using a mouse. I also tried it on my phone on the Drastic emulator. Using a cheap stylus but the stylus was simply not made for that so the foam tip kept breaking.
I didn't aspect this first impression review and it has beeen a great news; this product it's quite a bit of fresh air on the handheld market and the chance to have a DS under steroids is attracting. I keep on waiting for your next video in this device and for now I'd like to thank you again for the video and for your usual job on the channel, well done ! :)
Hopefully there will be an AyaNeo Slide Dual Screen in the future as well. Duals or folding screens might end up becoming a standard for future handheld gaming pcs. Lots of use cases with having more than one full screen.
Secondary display is excellent In previous AYANEO handheld terminals, there were cases where the LCD was damaged due to the heat generated by the main unit. There is no need to worry about that with a secondary display.
That is actually a really beautiful and impressive device. I love the 3ds, I love the Switch but the 3ds was so amazing, the feel of it was perfect. I feel like although the Switch is superior the 3ds was just neglected and they could have done so much more with it. Really interested in this device. I have kind of gotten burnt out on all these new devices, but this one looks special, I might pass up my future Retroid purchase with this depending on how it does.
These are PCs, so there will be new chips coming out nearly every year. If not from AMD, then from Intel (if you are interested, personally I'm not) and potentially Nvidia and Arm. Handheld Gaming PCs are here to stay and can only get more advanced, innovative and powerful.
Reminds me of these old umpc small computers, especially ones from Japan. Jam-packed full of various ports, with really choked down cpus, they looked like the future of the computing.
It only took 8 years for that to happen. The only thing they didn't cover is to have both an ARM and a x86 chip on the same hardware for android/windows dual boot (I know it would de hard af for any company to do)
Was looking for a mention of the PGS lab scam. I wonder what happened to it, they kept the scam going for unreasonably long, but then just vanished without making any noise.
Aya neo used to be a firestarter in the form factor of handheld pc's before the big ones came, so this can inspire other brands like ayn or anbernic to make a cheaper version.
A friend linked me to this since I started playing 3DS games on my Retroid Pocket Flip. This thing looks impressive, and looks like it'd be the ultimate handheld device.
I love this idea. Now I want an additional clip on 120hz 7inch screen for my aya neo 2. It will kill the battery, but when couch gaming or traveling with a plug, it will be king.
I plan to move in about 4 years I hope there's a new version of this in 3-4 years. The cpu and internal gpu ins't upgrade friendly, and i'm not ready for a new pc yet. I'm going to use it as a PC version of Nintendo Switch. I really hope Aya Neo makes one in 3-4 years. I'll buy an AMD Flagship egpu (or nvidia if not available.), a dock to go with it and use it as a desktop.
How is cemu on this ? It feels like the bottom screen should be bigger and more centered however this is the first device other than the steam deck that i have considered getting as a companion to my SD. Competing with valve for a traditional handheld will be hard embrace the wacky alternative designs. Sadly AYA never stops releasing so a v2 will be out by next year so i think i will wait and see how it improves.
Not too bad for what seems a first like a more niche product. The I/O is good. I can't comment on the mouse option but there has always been a very usable and reliable mouse function that was built into IBM laptops decades ago, the red nipple. Some manufacturers might want to consider it as an option. I really dislike the opening line of the description "Unleash the future of handheld gaming with the AYANEO Flip DS! ". This comes across as a company advertising statement, rather than in independent review, so I watched with great scepticism.
that's really cool but IMHO it's a bit overkill. I would like to see a cheaper, more compact version that runs android and is just powerfull enough for 3DS emulations with a little bit of upscaling/speed up.
Hi! Any chance you could try to use different types of stylus on the bottom screen? I'm thinking of getting this to scratch my niche enjoyment of "animating/drawing on a Nintendo DS" but now it has proper PC software, so how does it stack up using different stylus? Any native support?
If these little x86 console keeps coming out with Occulink, I will probably pick it up as my main PC. The missis can use it plugged into a screen for her work, I can plonk it down with eGPU for gaming, and we basically can take it around the house with our projector for home entertainment setup.
So based on the stats, tdp of 30w brought the battery duration down from 1 hour 11 mins to 41mins from 84% Is that interface also telling us that it will take 2 hours 5 mins to fully charge the device from 33%? I suspect that it will be much lower with the lower screen disabled as well as increasing battery life as well. Idle on windows desktop with TDP of 18w show battery duration of 1 hour 21 mins. Overall I think that is pretty decent.
I would actually pay the premium for something like this if they would make one without the stupid offset joysticks. Guess I'm stuck with my Steam Deck and/or my DS5 controller 🤷🏻♂
ETA is generally a good dude but he’s really just a salesman at this point for every handheld he talks about. He’s the Paula Abdul when it comes to constructive criticism. These companies sending him these devices are probably telling him not to criticize them. Paid TH-camrs = PR for all these gadgets. Every gadget ETA talks about is worth getting since he’s a salesman for all these companies.
It's a very good device. The only problem is the screen hinges. They don't inspire much confidence. This type of devices should be guaranteed to turn on and off.
Love this clamshell its the best design because the screen is tilted at an angle so comfortable for viewing and doesnt strain your neck. Its just too bad the import cost for this is gonna be too high to consider.
Definitely capacitive. They don't really manufacture resistive touch screens anymore outside of really really niche industrial stuff that you need to be able to use with gloves on.
Its cool but the price has to come way down for me to even consider it, between my actual 3ds and steam deck i just cant justify it, especially since i actually really like the 3d effect, if in 2 or 3 years they drop the price to $300 or less and add a 3d screen i might actually buy it, maybe they could make a cheaper android version, i would pretty much only want this to play 3ds games at like 2x resolution and Android is plenty capable of that
I'm curious about what it is like to use this for productivity purposes, would like to know more about the on-screen keyboard and if it is possible to use the second screen as a pseudo drawing tablet.
i initially hated this design when it was first announced but seeing it here, it looks pretty okay. very thick obviously but i do like the thought of my adhd brain getting to watch two things at once.
This is pretty much almost what ive been looking for just tye size of the handheld needs to be a little bit smaller and I think ayaneo mught just have the best device out there
This is a good example for the argument for diversity and variety in Handheld Gaming *PCS* People have different preferences in sizes, form factors, designs, specs, features, power and prices. PCs are NOT static consoles and don't want them to all be variants of the Steam Deck or ROG Ally.
Why does the performance decrease when using the built in display on the handheld pc's with egpu's?... I want to get an egpu, but this issue would be a dealbreaker.
As someone who has used a DS and 3DS for years, that bottom screen is humorously small. Some games make it look like one big screen. Can’t do that here.
I wish they would integrate the old ibm/lenovo thinkpad rubber mouse nub thing they used to use, on these type of units, especially the varaieties with keyboard built in like the winmax
What else would you like to see running on the all new AYANEO Slide DS?
Are you allowed to show any game or did ayneo give you a set list? I would like you to test a more power hungry game.
I would be interested in touchscreen-heavy DS/3DS games
PLEASE TEST TEARS OF THE KINGDOM
Minecraft
Sonic rush
I still use my 3DS to this day, so seeing this just rocked my world
Same here
I still play my new 3ds
Sure, but it's more like an N2DS XL.
Same
@50086gt Yep. With 3D screen. Still amazed of that stereo effect.
I could never imagine we would see a PC DS Variant but here we are... lol... Good job Aya making random tech.
This may just be the perfect form for a pocketable handheld
I’m wondering if it really is pocketable, I haven’t seen it closed, but the body of it seems sorta thick for pockets.
@@metalmanexetrememaybe if you're wearing cargo pants 😂
most things become pocketable if cargos are involved 😩🤌 they should be standard@@notreallyhim
I strongly disagree and much prefer the shape, size and functionality of the PSP Go. Only issue with that is it being far behind the PS Vita which itself is behind current gen consoles, making the PSP Go only good for enjoying PSP titles or emulation of older games like Pokemon Emerald. :v
All Sony would have to do is make another PSP Go with modern specs and I'd buy it, even if it's 2x the price of its competitors. They seem uninterested in making legitimate portable consoles, though. Sad. :
It is
It's incredible how many different options we have nowadays on the handheld market! I love the secondary display, it's such a cool and useful feature. You killed me with playing youtube on it, it's exactly what I'd do. xD
I though I was the only one that has media playing in the background while playing games, but apparently it's more common than I though.
Could watch game guides while playing a game right there and then.
So many things you can do.
@@AdmiralBison Yeah, you could have some sort of guide open, when you are trying to either get an achievement, or just complete a puzzle on which you gave up. Or troubleshoot an issue you are having in the game.
I love playing Fallout 4. Not the best game ever made, but I like building bases, which can be very time consuming. Having a podcast playing on the secondary screen would be so nice. xD
Instead of duel screening my mini pcs ...I have 2 running on 2 different screens. One for my TV shows watching and one for gaming. My actual TV get no love no more lol
I really wish people understood the videos on this channel are not reviews... They're just first look/hands on videos. I love this format bc it allows you to cover a wide range of products.
Then he can just re-upload each of these OEM's trailers going over the specs and feel.
They are reviews. He says at 9:10 he will make a full review
He can't say bad things about anything or he won't keep getting free stuff!
@@richarddukard8989 I'll believe it when I start seeing bad reviews from him, but from what I've seen most everything gets glowing remarks. Also, the fact that price is never mentioned is another hint to these being closer to advertiseents.
He claims they're reviews. At least other tech "reviewers" occasionally pretend to be critical. This guy doesn't even try.
ive never wanted a ds more
I want an official steam deck with this form factor. Or the T-Mobile sidekick format.
One day.
Why no one revived the Sidekick form factor, with d pads, analogs and buttons on the sides, is beyond me.
exactly, it's always been the best form factor for portability as it protects both the screens and controls/sticks when not in use
You can already attach a portable screen to the current handhelds. 3D printing required in some cases.
i hope Valve doesn't make a SD in this form factor. It'll only make those whole like to play DS games happy.
Ayoneo slide is similar to the Sidekick.
I didn't think I would want something like this before I started watching the video. I do like reading walkthroughs when I'm playing long RPGs. That second screen would also be nice as an on-screen keyboard. It seems like having the added versatility would be nice over a dedicated keyboard on the handheld.
Too bad you don't criticize products and have the viewers find more info about it. Your channel would be a lot better if you show the cons of products and make your viewer base aware instead of just advertising products.
Edit: seems like people aren't understanding that I mean his channel in general notice how I said product*s*.
This! I like his quick transitioning, but you can tell he's a sellout, never includes the cons, while owning all of them, crazy to me tbh, but best quick interviews for sure, like you said though he does need to start including the cons, no excuses for it and I'm not the one to accept them
Big facts. He’s a major shill compared to taki or the phawx.
Yeah, most of these “reviewers” will never say a bad thing as they won’t get sent more devices. AyaNeo makes poor quality products that don’t last and are not supported with updates etc. They just keep flooding the market with new products.
Linus already fills that void nicely I think lmao
@@fastshuther I wouldn't say he's a sellout as much but obviously he isn't reviewing products he's showcasing features at this point. I would like reviews from him because this is the only channel that actually does tech handhelds and other stuff.
I actually really like this. Like having a second monitor in your handheld, with the benefits of the clamshell design. The top screen being 120hz is very nice as well.
God the cost of those PC handhelds just make the Steam Deck look even better then it already did.
Bruh steam deck can only go up to 3.5ghz and not even 1080p display unless expensive version. And only 512gb space compared to 2tb of the ayaneo ds. Also, the new steam deck patch has bricked my steam deck.....
@@charlesgentry3758 neither could the game boy but it's still outsole this competitor, because battery life and overall cost are more important than power.
These devices are more for handheld enthusiasts or people who want to do more than the Steam Deck is capable of. If not enough people wanted them they wouldn’t exist. Steam Decks are sold at a loss.
Well the base Steam Deck has a very small storage. You can fit like two modern AAA games. A much suitable comparison would be the top spec Steam Deck. But even at the current stage the Steam Deck is very behind on specs.
@@sjneow like every other handheld on the market right now the internal SSD is replaceable with the addition of the microSD card slot, so complain about storage is honestly just stupid.
And as I mentioned in a comment above about the gameboy out selling its competitor despite being underpowered, power alone does not sell a device to the masses, it's battery life and overall cost as even as it stands now steam hardware survey less than 18% of CPUs past 3.3 GHz and about 60% of the primary display resolution is still 1080p.
I high key want this lmfao. Like I was hype when i saw it the first time! I'm so happy i'm alive for this handheld era
If I had the money, I would 100% get this out of any of the handheld PCs. The dual screen and just overall look of this is amazing
I'm very mixed. I own a 3ds with over 120 physical games. I would only buy this to maybe upscale them, or maybe use it for romhacks. But then you gotta wonder if its really worth $300 more than a steam deck(lcd). Tech like this is really neat, but it's so expensive for what it is.
Now with the major players entering the handheld PC space, these gimmicks is all companies like AyaNeo has left to draw in the buyers. As they can't compete on the value the other companies can, so they need to offer things that might appeal to a wider audience. They won't sell at the numbers of an ASUS, but they will keep enough gamers interested who might want the more unique options of something like this. For me personally, yeah, Steam Deck all the way, but this is interesting for sure.
this handheld is perfect. you can play ton of 3ds (perfect screen position ) and other emulator to. with small formfactor but 7 inch screen. and 780m GPU is perfect for emulator and some pc games.
Yeah you can play 3DS games great on this but you could run AAA PC games well too. 👌🏽
Frankly it infuriates me if you want more RAM you get the larger SSD foisted on you. Not like you can just upgrade the RAM,
If they had a 516 GB+32 GB. RAM tier I would feel much differently so in the $800 range instead of $900 and over.
@@chrislaustin You say value when I think you mean price.
I would get this and put all my DS and PSP games on it as a dedicated emulation beast! This thing looks amazing.
Why not just use a psp or 3ds lol
@@hanslim4031 Because it can also play other things
Not gonna talk about the most important thing are we?
How's the battery life? Given that the screen is one of the bigger drains, so having two of them could be a problem.
There are no problems, only answers to problems.
28 watts. 1.5hrs top
Been waiting for this one!
since the xperia play m8
Such timing. I was considering getting a Microsoft Surface Duo + controller for DS emulation.
Dude, you got to start listing cons. For every product you get, you praise it, like if it was sent to you by God himself. All in all still a decent device not worth switching over from my current one I was really curious about that extra screen for DS games. Thanks!
No, he really doesn’t….
@@Jvstnick the game literally crashed in the video and he didn’t mention it
This device will singlehandedly get me readdicted to 3ds era games
Only problem is that Citra isn't 100% compatible with all 3DS games.
This looks super cool! A lot of the new wave of handheld devices look the same. Not this one though. This is a true successor to the DS and 3DS
This is what I wish retroid flip would have, dual screen.
Imagine Ocarina of time 3DS with HD textures... DAMN 🗿
You get it 😩
This is what "Retroid pocket flip" supposed to be, rather than just a huge blank area around the controller.
No regrets about pre ordering this. Very excited.
For me this just makes me excited for the likes of Anbernic eventually bringing out far more affordable devices in this style that can run 3DS and Wii U titles but aren’t made for higher end PC titles so are more affordable.
Urghh! I just got a retroid flip and now this beautiful specimen comes out! 😂😭
Amazing... The subnotebook/handheld PC has come back with a roar. Sony tried something like this in the early 2000s with the PCG-U1 and U3 models in Japan, but they didn't do so well. But now we have APUs that are so powerful that they can easily do this. What a time to be alive lol
We need an android handheld like this, in a form factor the size of the 3ds xl, and screens of similar size! I know that would sell out so quick
I’ve wondered why no one has really made a dual screen device. This is perfect
always fond of Ds form factor and Aya Neo really delivers. Hope this would be more affordable with the current pocket pc trends
I hope that in the future there will be a good way to emulate playing pokemon ranger games. Nothing quite does it like a real DS
DUDE SAME. I miss the ranger games but it’s literally impossible without an actual DS
You could try playing with a drawing tablet. 😂 It wasn't bad when I tried it years ago, probably the best alternative rather than using a mouse. I also tried it on my phone on the Drastic emulator. Using a cheap stylus but the stylus was simply not made for that so the foam tip kept breaking.
I didn't aspect this first impression review and it has beeen a great news; this product it's quite a bit of fresh air on the handheld market and the chance to have a DS under steroids is attracting. I keep on waiting for your next video in this device and for now I'd like to thank you again for the video and for your usual job on the channel, well done ! :)
I don't need it...I don't need it ...I NEEEEED IIIITT
Hopefully there will be an AyaNeo Slide Dual Screen in the future as well.
Duals or folding screens might end up becoming a standard for future handheld gaming pcs.
Lots of use cases with having more than one full screen.
Secondary display is excellent
In previous AYANEO handheld terminals, there were cases where the LCD was damaged due to the heat generated by the main unit.
There is no need to worry about that with a secondary display.
That is actually a really beautiful and impressive device. I love the 3ds, I love the Switch but the 3ds was so amazing, the feel of it was perfect. I feel like although the Switch is superior the 3ds was just neglected and they could have done so much more with it. Really interested in this device. I have kind of gotten burnt out on all these new devices, but this one looks special, I might pass up my future Retroid purchase with this depending on how it does.
Man, this handheld is something I want as NDS/3DS/WiiU are systems I am interested too!
You might not when you see the price.
@@Nickbaldeagle02I'd be happy with a cheaper arm version with 2 screens tbh. That'd be perfect
I clicked expecting something to emulate DS and the thing is running Spider Man and Street Fighter 6! Holly molly
I watched this video yesterday, played some 3DS on my Steam Deck today and I can honestly say 3DS on the Steam Deck is superb as it is.
Did that racing game crash?
Yes. Problem?
You'd think for a review of a gaming device, the reviewer could point that out....
I was getting 7840 fatigue but this has potential.
x2 I decided to just wait to the next year to buy a new handheld pc when AMD releas 9000s (I'm using a one with 6000s series)
These are PCs, so there will be new chips coming out nearly every year.
If not from AMD, then from Intel (if you are interested, personally I'm not) and potentially Nvidia and Arm.
Handheld Gaming PCs are here to stay and can only get more advanced, innovative and powerful.
@@AdmiralBison The only thing left for a huge leap fpr those devices is the battery
@@BadEnd98they'd probably need arm for that tbh
Super cool! Would love to see more vids on this
Reminds me of these old umpc small computers, especially ones from Japan. Jam-packed full of various ports, with really choked down cpus, they looked like the future of the computing.
Can't believe the concept for the pgs lab became real.
glad i wasn't the only one thinking this
It only took 8 years for that to happen. The only thing they didn't cover is to have both an ARM and a x86 chip on the same hardware for android/windows dual boot (I know it would de hard af for any company to do)
Not quite there yet. PGS concept was way sleeker. Waiting till the day we get actual phone sized PC's with proper cooling.
Was looking for a mention of the PGS lab scam. I wonder what happened to it, they kept the scam going for unreasonably long, but then just vanished without making any noise.
@@SaltyMaudthey were posting on Facebook for a while, even coming out with a "working" unit.
They even updated the specs once in their site.
This is emulation dream with the 8840 I can’t imagine anything it wouldn’t emulate perfectly
Honestly wish this was an android handheld for $350 with specs like the odin 2.
Aya neo used to be a firestarter in the form factor of handheld pc's before the big ones came, so this can inspire other brands like ayn or anbernic to make a cheaper version.
A friend linked me to this since I started playing 3DS games on my Retroid Pocket Flip. This thing looks impressive, and looks like it'd be the ultimate handheld device.
I love this idea. Now I want an additional clip on 120hz 7inch screen for my aya neo 2. It will kill the battery, but when couch gaming or traveling with a plug, it will be king.
Iv seen people use the Galaxy fold series with super display to do just that.
I am gonna buy the next version with built in dual screen, controller, keyboard, mouse, vr, and can fly like drone
Why did the screen freeze at end of the forza demo while you were still controlling it? game freeze?
Probably.
I plan to move in about 4 years I hope there's a new version of this in 3-4 years. The cpu and internal gpu ins't upgrade friendly, and i'm not ready for a new pc yet. I'm going to use it as a PC version of Nintendo Switch. I really hope Aya Neo makes one in 3-4 years. I'll buy an AMD Flagship egpu (or nvidia if not available.), a dock to go with it and use it as a desktop.
Using the second screen for TH-cam really is my cup of tea tbh. :-))
How is cemu on this ? It feels like the bottom screen should be bigger and more centered however this is the first device other than the steam deck that i have considered getting as a companion to my SD. Competing with valve for a traditional handheld will be hard embrace the wacky alternative designs. Sadly AYA never stops releasing so a v2 will be out by next year so i think i will wait and see how it improves.
also want to see how the home-brew community embraces this @ 7:00 you can see the bottom screen is just a window with a title bar
When playing 3ds there's a white line in the top of the second screen, can it be removed?
No
This how imagined the next ds will look like before 3ds reveal many years ago
This is a amazing idea that needs to be worked on more
Wow, you're basically the only tech TH-cam reviewer I've heard say it right and use pcie 4.0 and not "gen 4", I wish more said it like you.
The steam deck is the only pc handheld I’ve wanted until this. Man this thing is bad ass!
I would have totally got this... if I didn't just get an Air 1S before this was announced...
i kinda wanna see a gta v mod made specifically for that bottom screen so you can see the weapon wheel or map on it. thatd be so cool
It's so heckin awesome until you see the price, it's unobtainium!
The bottom screen is too small they should’ve put the buttons on the bottom side of the device and made the screen bigger
That makes no sense
It`s big enough for DS and 3DS emulation.
I have the GPD WinMax 2 2023 and i'm feeling envious of that 2nd screen. But I do have a full size keyboard... Not sure which is better.
you can probably use the on screen keyboard on the 2nd screen
Not too bad for what seems a first like a more niche product. The I/O is good. I can't comment on the mouse option but there has always been a very usable and reliable mouse function that was built into IBM laptops decades ago, the red nipple. Some manufacturers might want to consider it as an option.
I really dislike the opening line of the description "Unleash the future of handheld gaming with the AYANEO Flip DS! ". This comes across as a company advertising statement, rather than in independent review, so I watched with great scepticism.
Your description says 3.5" inch screen but the video says 3.2"? which is it
3:19 look again, 7" main screen, 3.5" secondary screen 3:2 aspect ratio
that's really cool but IMHO it's a bit overkill. I would like to see a cheaper, more compact version that runs android and is just powerfull enough for 3DS emulations with a little bit of upscaling/speed up.
This is great! That 3ds emulation is crazy!!
I think this will be a game changer for streamers with limited space!
Bezels are larger than I’m comfortable with
can you put a virtual keyboard on the DS variant? i know there is such a thing on windows
You can but it will be very tight vertically due to the size
Hi! Any chance you could try to use different types of stylus on the bottom screen? I'm thinking of getting this to scratch my niche enjoyment of "animating/drawing on a Nintendo DS" but now it has proper PC software, so how does it stack up using different stylus? Any native support?
Thinking of getting this as both a work computer and a handheld. Juat hoock it up to my dual display set up for work and have fun latet.
I wish more devices had a symmetrical analogs positioning option for the rest of us who aren't comfortable with asymmetrical analog positioning.
If these little x86 console keeps coming out with Occulink, I will probably pick it up as my main PC. The missis can use it plugged into a screen for her work, I can plonk it down with eGPU for gaming, and we basically can take it around the house with our projector for home entertainment setup.
So based on the stats, tdp of 30w brought the battery duration down from 1 hour 11 mins to 41mins from 84% Is that interface also telling us that it will take 2 hours 5 mins to fully charge the device from 33%? I suspect that it will be much lower with the lower screen disabled as well as increasing battery life as well. Idle on windows desktop with TDP of 18w show battery duration of 1 hour 21 mins. Overall I think that is pretty decent.
this is how a new ds should work, multitasking :)
I would actually pay the premium for something like this if they would make one without the stupid offset joysticks. Guess I'm stuck with my Steam Deck and/or my DS5 controller 🤷🏻♂
ETA is generally a good dude but he’s really just a salesman at this point for every handheld he talks about. He’s the Paula Abdul when it comes to constructive criticism. These companies sending him these devices are probably telling him not to criticize them. Paid TH-camrs = PR for all these gadgets. Every gadget ETA talks about is worth getting since he’s a salesman for all these companies.
It's up to you to use your judgement.
You need to remember that this is not a review, this is a first look
What a killer design. I love being able to watch a video on the small screen while gaming. Too bad that D-Pad seems a little too flat
It's a very good device. The only problem is the screen hinges. They don't inspire much confidence. This type of devices should be guaranteed to turn on and off.
Love this clamshell its the best design because the screen is tilted at an angle so comfortable for viewing and doesnt strain your neck. Its just too bad the import cost for this is gonna be too high to consider.
I just want Nvidia shield portable form factor back 😭 this is the closest so far probably
Is the touchscreen resistive or capacitive? I'm interested if it's great for a stylus mostly, for touchscreen-heavy games like Pokemon Ranger
Aren't there stylus compatible with both types of touchscreen? There are some Motorola and Samsung phones that come with a pen/stylus and work fine.
Yeah, I'd imagine capacitive. Haven't seen a resistant screen in a long time
Definitely capacitive. They don't really manufacture resistive touch screens anymore outside of really really niche industrial stuff that you need to be able to use with gloves on.
Its cool but the price has to come way down for me to even consider it, between my actual 3ds and steam deck i just cant justify it, especially since i actually really like the 3d effect, if in 2 or 3 years they drop the price to $300 or less and add a 3d screen i might actually buy it, maybe they could make a cheaper android version, i would pretty much only want this to play 3ds games at like 2x resolution and Android is plenty capable of that
I'm curious about what it is like to use this for productivity purposes, would like to know more about the on-screen keyboard and if it is possible to use the second screen as a pseudo drawing tablet.
i initially hated this design when it was first announced but seeing it here, it looks pretty okay. very thick obviously but i do like the thought of my adhd brain getting to watch two things at once.
This is pretty much almost what ive been looking for just tye size of the handheld needs to be a little bit smaller and I think ayaneo mught just have the best device out there
This is a good example for the argument for diversity and variety in Handheld Gaming *PCS*
People have different preferences in sizes, form factors, designs, specs, features, power and prices.
PCs are NOT static consoles and don't want them to all be variants of the Steam Deck or ROG Ally.
Fighting games on that thing could be mint
I am definitely going to buy this!!!!
Defacto best DS and 3DS emulator machine.
Why does the performance decrease when using the built in display on the handheld pc's with egpu's?... I want to get an egpu, but this issue would be a dealbreaker.
As someone who has used a DS and 3DS for years, that bottom screen is humorously small. Some games make it look like one big screen. Can’t do that here.
Reason why I opt for the KB rather then the DS version
I wish they would integrate the old ibm/lenovo thinkpad rubber mouse nub thing they used to use, on these type of units, especially the varaieties with keyboard built in like the winmax
this is like my dream 3ds
its happening. this looks awesome
Huge miss not to do what Retroid did and make custom hall 3ds-style sliders. That would have been such a sell for me
I hope new 3D handhelds come out like the 3DS