so 3 vils repairing a tc is 18 vils on wood (source: Twest), the first one repairs more so it does not scale linearly, but it remains expensive af. It is cheaper to just rebuild one, especially considering that you had the stone and the tc did not have enough health to garrison. Kinda hard to make that decision in the moment, but letting it go right after reaching imp would have been the batter call
The tc was mostly important to shield the gold as a save gold. The plumes and mangonel were too dangerous but couldn’t close in while his tc was up. Maybe a tower on the gold could have done the same though.
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It’s hard hitting single tiles with a trebuchet. Yes, could’ve been nice to try, but you could get 2 guaranteed shots on the castle in the time you wasted missing the mango. Trebuchets usually miss like 2 shots on single tiles before actually hitting unless you upgrade accuracy
@@amosdraak3536 Yeh but if he the wood he could have queued another treb. Weakening the castle didn't do anything in the end so it doesn't matter if it's going down. The TC needed to be up and he needed the wood.
In fast castles Hera says taking forward res first before the castle goes up is crucial also putting your defensive production buildings back(seige workshop, monastery) is better than walling with them. Also don't crowd yourself with your secondary walls. its crucial to be able to maneuver properly.
Aggressive arena is always Super fun .. when i tell you that arena is my fav map doesnt mean i am boomer i just love being safe and being super aggresive or sometimes Defending against Aggressive pushes are always super fun .. Looking For more Aggresive arena Stuff ...
It's strange how on nearly 100% of games I've lost I never bothered to research supplies. Honestly, it should be a general tech, not just for one unit. That way the name makes sense.
You got a like from me on this one, what an interesting game! The lines in the game play between players at this level really begin to crisscross. Almost as if forming a painting or something. It's difficult to not be a fan of the content you choose to bring to TH-cam.
What about not going for a castle? You had 14 vills on stone for a loooong time. While basically still waiting for chemistry for bbc. Castle did not do much for protection. Having those vills on farms and other resources which could be a faster imp, faster bbc and maybe extra eco for some skirms??
At 12:35 you could have used the treb to first take out his mangonel and saved yourself some time while he has to replace that. It would also have made him unable to effectively dive with the plums as the TC would have been too strong. Still decent effort aginst that micro I doub't you'd have been able to recover regardless.
IMO if you are playing arena vs the mayans as Burgundians, you are always going to have a better eco than them, and so the only way they can hurt you is by castle dropping you. Especially since that then feeds into plumes (with older players like Tatoh feeling super comfortable with an FC-plume build) so you should probably play like Vivi or Yo and go FC castle yourself, so that you can make Coustillier for map control, and it protects you from being castle dropped
Anyone know where to find the Community Game with Vinchester? Iv been seaching all of T90's vids for nearly 2 hours and cant find it. Was gonna go back and watch some of the older ones as iv seen all the vids, and I remember liking the Vinchester one ages ago. How do I find it, or has it been removed?
Yeah I played in it! It's titled "Three Hours of Lies Deceit and Craziness" and was played in Regicide Rumble 4. It was a great time, and probably (no bias here whatsoever) one of the greatest community games played in the last 4 or 5 years. T90 would agree I think, as it is the most viewed Regicide Rumble game on YT outside of the Original Legend of Blue Coffee video. But yeah, no bias at all from me! -Russell
I think you can not deny the castle but the damadge control could have been better. I also think that ideally you dont want to repear the tc after you are imp. Just wall behind and put your vills somewhere safe. In that way you can produce trebs and maybe 1/2 bbc. With that you should be able to hold. He has nothing to snipe siege so you slowly add skirms and push out.
I ban arena almost instantly when i see it. there is sometimes a thought like, what if i go Koreans and just build a billion towers with FC. but then i remember i only play vikings
This is one example of when pros resign too early, there was a chance he was going very low on res in seconds, at least try next time, you should if you want to improve. That was good hold anyway gg.
There's a lotta backseating in the comments. I think it was a good run and you seem to understand what you did wrong there. Can't wait for the next vid. (Also, I'd love to watch some commie games again!) edit: I seem to have overlooked the pizza map, but I stand by my original comment lol
Bro your not being completly honest you were just way slower than tatoh, he had better micro on his units, he had better contol. You already know this dont you. Your a great player no doubt but tatoh is prob not giveing you his very best. Ive seen him in the tournaments hes not going as hard as he could in this match because your not pushing him to that level. But if he ever gets a fat head against you and takes you too lightly you will def beet him hands down because you almost did in the first game with him a couple of wweeks ago. Its like he gave you a taste of what he could really do this time so GG.
It's crazy to me. That you "pros" resign so early. Sure your under alot of pressure but in a game where either player can gain an advantage seemingly out of nowhere... like.. play it out a bit. I'm not saying hide a villager and make him defeat you but even if it's 80/20... like 20% odds hit a lot
Pros don’t gain an advantage out of nowhere, if they are under pressure of pressuring.😅 Usually all their resources and time are spent, compared to us plebs🙄
Mistakes: 1. Adding a TC despite knowing you're getting All-In'ed. Especially considering how safely Burg win this match up once they reach chemistry. Besides that, why would you need another TC, Mayans are known to desperately go 1 TC on this map (with their awful mid-game eco) you already had all eco techs. It was just meta-minded move. 2. Obsession about relics. No idea why. Unable to understand your unique win condition. Even with 5v0 relics Mayans cant win Burg late game. The game was lost at this point basically.
Easy to say as watching it in hindsight. I agree there seems to be a new obsession with relics now. I see Viper talk about it all the time in videos. Never before had I heard relics mentioned as much. I see their value but on these maps you know you either put boom and hold or you all in and no eco
@ In Arena there's enough gold for Burgundians to achieve the basics for them to handle a meso civ. HC+ Hussar + BBC > Every meso civ. What you're talking about is a fully boomed meso civ (Eagle Spam) which also have full map control. It's unlikely. It's ok, AOE is far far far from being balanced on closed maps.
No. It's not just a superior civ based on "purely economic reasons". It's one of the most one sided civ wins out there. A bottom 3 vs a top 3 civ. Civ design in AOE is painfully awful, Burgundians are broken in so many metrics on closed maps, and I'm not even referring about the Flemish nonsense that should be removed, but we seem to helplessly cope with it.
T90 talks a big game in his thought process but really he's not as good as he makes out. He had so many chances to do damage with the light cav early on those vils as they came forward but kept circling for... some reason? You could have stopped the castle if you had just got in the way of those vills.
T90 found a loophole to cast shorter games. Just play them himself lol
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Hey wtf
Fun fact about Tatoh's ELO (2520): it's the smallest multiple of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10.
Unexpected Numberphile!
2520 is also a superior highly composite number
10:05 "trade" is a strong word
I was at Domino yesterday, and I gave them my name for my order, and the clerk said, "I thought you said your name was Chicken."
I read this right when I took a bite of my reheated chicken sandwich I got from Wendy’s yesterday
But...My name is chicken though >.>
@@SavingSoulsMinistries Still better than Chick fil a lmao
wendy better than chic fila is like saying lizzo is hotter than margot robbie
so 3 vils repairing a tc is 18 vils on wood (source: Twest), the first one repairs more so it does not scale linearly, but it remains expensive af. It is cheaper to just rebuild one, especially considering that you had the stone and the tc did not have enough health to garrison. Kinda hard to make that decision in the moment, but letting it go right after reaching imp would have been the batter call
The tc was mostly important to shield the gold as a save gold. The plumes and mangonel were too dangerous but couldn’t close in while his tc was up. Maybe a tower on the gold could have done the same though.
what happened to TTL did it end
Yeah. What happened?
All the full ttl sets are going on the second channel. It is about 1/3 of the way through.
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Hey T90, I would have gambled 1 treb shot on the mangonel after you started trebbing the castle my dude. Might have saved you a lot of wood.
Thats what I thought as well. Would have been interesting
It’s hard hitting single tiles with a trebuchet. Yes, could’ve been nice to try, but you could get 2 guaranteed shots on the castle in the time you wasted missing the mango. Trebuchets usually miss like 2 shots on single tiles before actually hitting unless you upgrade accuracy
@@amosdraak3536 Yeh but if he the wood he could have queued another treb. Weakening the castle didn't do anything in the end so it doesn't matter if it's going down. The TC needed to be up and he needed the wood.
Yep, treb on the mango wudve been clutch
In fast castles Hera says taking forward res first before the castle goes up is crucial also putting your defensive production buildings back(seige workshop, monastery) is better than walling with them. Also don't crowd yourself with your secondary walls. its crucial to be able to maneuver properly.
min 1:59, really hoping t90 beats a cool castle drop:)
Aggressive arena is always Super fun ..
when i tell you that arena is my fav map doesnt mean i am boomer i just love being safe and being super aggresive or sometimes Defending against Aggressive pushes are always super fun ..
Looking For more Aggresive arena Stuff ...
You didn't get SUPPLIES!!!! that was your downfall.
It's strange how on nearly 100% of games I've lost I never bothered to research supplies. Honestly, it should be a general tech, not just for one unit. That way the name makes sense.
You got a like from me on this one, what an interesting game! The lines in the game play between players at this level really begin to crisscross. Almost as if forming a painting or something. It's difficult to not be a fan of the content you choose to bring to TH-cam.
t90 gets clowned on
Uuuff, you did good T90! 👍
I am honestly impressed u didnt delete your forward walls 😂
What about not going for a castle? You had 14 vills on stone for a loooong time. While basically still waiting for chemistry for bbc. Castle did not do much for protection. Having those vills on farms and other resources which could be a faster imp, faster bbc and maybe extra eco for some skirms??
At 12:35 you could have used the treb to first take out his mangonel and saved yourself some time while he has to replace that. It would also have made him unable to effectively dive with the plums as the TC would have been too strong. Still decent effort aginst that micro I doub't you'd have been able to recover regardless.
IMO if you are playing arena vs the mayans as Burgundians, you are always going to have a better eco than them, and so the only way they can hurt you is by castle dropping you. Especially since that then feeds into plumes (with older players like Tatoh feeling super comfortable with an FC-plume build) so you should probably play like Vivi or Yo and go FC castle yourself, so that you can make Coustillier for map control, and it protects you from being castle dropped
You are a certified chad my boy
Anyone know where to find the Community Game with Vinchester? Iv been seaching all of T90's vids for nearly 2 hours and cant find it. Was gonna go back and watch some of the older ones as iv seen all the vids, and I remember liking the Vinchester one ages ago. How do I find it, or has it been removed?
Yeah I played in it! It's titled "Three Hours of Lies Deceit and Craziness" and was played in Regicide Rumble 4. It was a great time, and probably (no bias here whatsoever) one of the greatest community games played in the last 4 or 5 years. T90 would agree I think, as it is the most viewed Regicide Rumble game on YT outside of the Original Legend of Blue Coffee video.
But yeah, no bias at all from me!
-Russell
I think you can not deny the castle but the damadge control could have been better. I also think that ideally you dont want to repear the tc after you are imp. Just wall behind and put your vills somewhere safe. In that way you can produce trebs and maybe 1/2 bbc. With that you should be able to hold. He has nothing to snipe siege so you slowly add skirms and push out.
Better than slam dropped
Did T90 just do the @castofempires intro? 😮
emotedispenser35 is the MVP of this game.
ayo I can just randomly go and drop a chat at twitch and it may show up on youtube?? LOL
2:20 why is there chat 111
Ima be honest with you all, this new map pool is trashing my low elo self…….
I ban arena almost instantly when i see it. there is sometimes a thought like, what if i go Koreans and just build a billion towers with FC. but then i remember i only play vikings
Why did you research archer armor?
So ranged units take less damage.
This is one example of when pros resign too early, there was a chance he was going very low on res in seconds, at least try next time, you should if you want to improve. That was good hold anyway gg.
At least it was TaToH that beat you 11
whats wron with getting loom before castle age T90?
You don't need loom in arena, you're stone walled
There's a lotta backseating in the comments. I think it was a good run and you seem to understand what you did wrong there. Can't wait for the next vid. (Also, I'd love to watch some commie games again!) edit: I seem to have overlooked the pizza map, but I stand by my original comment lol
I think people resign too soon.
Dave casted this one while waiting for TTL match, I think you could've still one, but losing those two mangos hurt you the most.
knew I had seen this somewhere
@@foxtrotAOEespecially the chat in the beginning😂
Bro your not being completly honest you were just way slower than tatoh, he had better micro on his units, he had better contol. You already know this dont you. Your a great player no doubt but tatoh is prob not giveing you his very best. Ive seen him in the tournaments hes not going as hard as he could in this match because your not pushing him to that level. But if he ever gets a fat head against you and takes you too lightly you will def beet him hands down because you almost did in the first game with him a couple of wweeks ago. Its like he gave you a taste of what he could really do this time so GG.
when are u going to get a win offa one of these nabs
Last time I was this early, I walked into the wrong class in the right room
amazing soy face
Hey T90 I got banned on your server. Was looking for a teammate yesterday and did the everyone function. Any way I can get back in? ~Crash~
It's crazy to me. That you "pros" resign so early. Sure your under alot of pressure but in a game where either player can gain an advantage seemingly out of nowhere... like.. play it out a bit. I'm not saying hide a villager and make him defeat you but even if it's 80/20... like 20% odds hit a lot
yeah seems like he could have myb clutched up with the bombard
@justaguy-i1v there was a decent time anount of directions that game could have gone.
There's one flaw in your plan. He's agianst Tatoh.
Pros don’t gain an advantage out of nowhere, if they are under pressure of pressuring.😅 Usually all their resources and time are spent, compared to us plebs🙄
Mistakes:
1. Adding a TC despite knowing you're getting All-In'ed.
Especially considering how safely Burg win this match up once they reach chemistry.
Besides that, why would you need another TC, Mayans are known to desperately go 1 TC on this map (with their awful mid-game eco) you already had all eco techs. It was just meta-minded move.
2. Obsession about relics. No idea why. Unable to understand your unique win condition. Even with 5v0 relics Mayans cant win Burg late game.
The game was lost at this point basically.
Easy to say as watching it in hindsight. I agree there seems to be a new obsession with relics now. I see Viper talk about it all the time in videos. Never before had I heard relics mentioned as much. I see their value but on these maps you know you either put boom and hold or you all in and no eco
They can if they deny Burg from gold.
@ In Arena there's enough gold for Burgundians to achieve the basics for them to handle a meso civ. HC+ Hussar + BBC > Every meso civ.
What you're talking about is a fully boomed meso civ (Eagle Spam) which also have full map control. It's unlikely.
It's ok, AOE is far far far from being balanced on closed maps.
nice
No. It's not just a superior civ based on "purely economic reasons". It's one of the most one sided civ wins out there.
A bottom 3 vs a top 3 civ.
Civ design in AOE is painfully awful, Burgundians are broken in so many metrics on closed maps, and I'm not even referring about the Flemish nonsense that should be removed, but we seem to helplessly cope with it.
38 seconds 1 view bro fell off
okay never doing that again
Yes First!
T90 talks a big game in his thought process but really he's not as good as he makes out. He had so many chances to do damage with the light cav early on those vils as they came forward but kept circling for... some reason? You could have stopped the castle if you had just got in the way of those vills.
Did you not see the pikes??
@dylancope omg I didn't!
i would have said GG when i lost the second mangonel...