When I first saw this as a kid, I was totally surprised when I saw the Dodo riding the Warner Brothers' logo. That must have made theater audiences roar when this first came out! You don't see inovation like that in a joke anymore.
i like how the Salvador Dali inspired landscapes were implemented well with the whole Wackyland aesthetic. All of the creatures are very strange and alien looking and it just fits very well. Also I love the random nature of it too, just looks like something from a dream
Vi esse vídeo em 2019,quando eu tinha 11 anos.E pensar que hoje esse vídeo se tornou nostálgico e especial pra mim,principalmente porque eu tinha um DVD com esse episódio. (I am from Brazil )
These cartoons are the reason why the Dodo is my favorite looney tunes character. I feel like no one talks about him other than the fact he had a son in tiny toons
I watched this cartoon when I was like 5. I watched it at least 30 times at that time, because I was just obsessed and fascinated. But now I understand all the references to Dali etc...
@Sly Cooper, I mainly watched "Dough for the Doh Doh" a few times on Kids' WB in '96 during the "Bugs N Daffy" run and maybe "Porky in Wacklyland" at least once on one of the shows CN still had.. i think it was the Bob clampeett show or Toon Heads or sumthing...
Interesting how the endings differ. The original ending is much more of a happy ending for the Dodo (he's "saved"), while in the 1949 version the other dodos arrive just too late for Porky to see them, and he drags the poor "last" Dodo up the ramp and away into captivity etc.
Maybe the dialogue makes the difference (there's supposed to be dialogue right??) but it seems like the original ending is much funnier. The "time traveler reports dodo WAS eventually captured" gag (I guess that's what's happening there?) seems much more sophisticated and clever than the standard "dress up like a girl in order to seduce and capture boy" concept.
@@o_o_o_o_o-o_o_o_o_o Tbf in the remake all did Porky was just dress up as another Do-Do bird to fool YoYo (yes that's his name) and claim that he's "the last Do-Do"
@@TheComedicProsthesecondone Ohh hm yeah he's not actually specifically dressing as a girl dodo is he? I misinterpreted because the dodo suit looks like a dress. Okay, so the joke is that Porky tricked the dodo into becoming the hunter, I guess? Or something like that. That's better than what I'd thought it was.
Really loved the music, thank you for uploading this. I remember this cartoon from my childhood, back then I loved creative stuff like that. Now it just strikes me as creepy, haha.
This. Is. Truly. Awesome. Especially love the way the music fits. It's just so damn beautiful. I would kind of like to hear the two sounds on both cartoons just so i can see how similar and different they both are. But still, I LOVE the music on this!!! Just simply love it!
3:31 - 3:34 This scene for Porky in Wackyland was revomed in the *sunset productions* version Because this was to avoid any mention or reference to Warner Bros.
Call me old fashioned, but I still prefer the black and white version. It left more to the imagination. When I was younger, I made my own color scheme and that’s how I still imagine the characters now.😊
I remember both of these. Years after the first one they must have decided when they were redoing it in color to use some different ideas half way into the story, because I remember after those first 4 minutes or so they got quite bit different form each other
he is only trying to compare the two visual parts my understanding is that the original Clampett was damaged, so Freleng took the character cels and added the new backgrounds (the colour film) with the Daliesque references (or direct steals; he probably asked)
If I'm not mistaken, some of the retraced footage from Porky in Wackyland (from 0:50 to 1:17) from Dough for the Do-Do is actually stock footage from the earlier Tin Pan Alley Cats (which itself reused Wackyland footage). That's why some of the characters have "blackface" lips.
@JanusHoW I think the 49 version is much more Dali- the clocks everywhere, the eyeballs and yeah, the bones and body parts too...the use of broken furniture and such instead of just regular plants. In any event, this is a fabulous side by side with great music - thanks so much for putting this together!
I love both versions, but I think the original is a little better because the outlandish rubber hose animation better fits the "wackiness" of the cartoon. But the remake version is still special to me because it was one of the first Looney Tunes episodes I ever watched.
Clampett's Porky In Wackyland is still better imo because its, well, more original. The backgrounds, while in B/W are vastly superior. It doesnt feel like a boring wasteland and feels more full of wackyness
I actually prefer "Dough for the Do-Do." It's more controlled (even though it's supposed to be zany) and less arbitrary. And the color, of course, helps. Some better gags ("rubber band") and better ending, too.
The 3-headed man was obviously a copy of the actual Three Stooges, although in the later version Moe's hair is blond instead of black, making the satire less obvious.
At 4:06 in the right frame, that's where my favorite pair of lines would be: Dodo: I'm rich, I'm rich! I caught the last dodo, I caught the last dodo! Porky: Oh n-n-n-no, you haven't. I'm rich, I caught the last d-d-d-dodo!
My thought before watching this comparison was simple: 1938 "Wackyland" superb, 1949 "Dough" not as good. As if the classic black and white version, ranked as something like 8th among the 50 greatest cartoons of all time by animators in one book, couldn't be improved on. I'll still stand by 1938's "Wackyland," but the 1949 one had some Dali-like backgrounds that were great.
***** The comparisons are interesting. Clampett's 1938 version almost has to be viewed 10 times in order to catch everything that's going on with the backgrounds and the characters. That's its beauty. The 1949 Freleng cartoon is not quite that demanding but is great to watch too. Clampett has Porky landing in deepest, darkest Africa as I recall. Freleng's background almost evokes the U.S. southwest. I don't think color adds or detracts from this genuine cartoon classic.
prchristman I don't know, as someone who wasn't really aware of the hoopla of this cartoon, they seem to be virtually the same greatness-wise, except for the fun edition of color. (Although as good as they are, I certainly don't see either one as perfect, honestly)
0:07 - Wow, 4 sextillion (10 to the 21st power) dollars for the last dodo...pretty sure that's more than all the money in the world, even nowadays. Also, we recently got a new short featuring the Dodo, but this time with Daffy Duck headlining. It's a hoot.
What I have to wonder now: Was the old animation simply re-traced onto new backgrounds drawn by Hawley Pratt (except for the end)? To be honest, I find the Clampett version to be scarier.
I’m late as the update on fallout 76 but yes, the colored backgrounds are much more surreal. I especially love the giant bones, mixing in with the unnatural life.
Nice that the song that you used is called Dali, because that's what the background of the color remake reminds me of. Anyone else? The original reminds me more of the Alice series.
Interesting that the color version apparently took its cels from Tin Pan Alley Cats, which was essentially a remake of the original black & white wackyland cartoon that then became banned for racism. You can tell because some of the characters have big lips from when they were transformed to blackface.
Did this cartoon started with Porky flying over a map and he goes to africa, dark africa, darker and then wackyland? Or im thinking about other cartoon?
In the original short, Porky in Wackyland, the flight is there. It might have been cut from the remake on account of being just the little teeny eeniest bit racist.
I prefer Bob Clampett's version mainly due to the smoother animation. Friz Freleng's version is artistically stunning and very Salvador Dali-inspired to the fullest, but Clampett's version has much more leeway creating zanier gags with the use of more frames. The dance at 2:23 in particular got lost in translation in Freleng's version because the rhythm does not hold up nearly as well with Mel Blanc's performance as it did in Clampett's version. They're both great in their own ways, but personally I'll take Porky in Wackyland moreso.
@JanusHoW I agree with you on that. Pretty much everything WAS the same frame for frame, except at the very end like you said. Either way I still love them, and I love the way this video was put together. ;-)
Anyone agree this is heavily inspired by if not directly inspired by heart of darkness? Someone is tasked with getting to someone else... there are three parts to Africa in both, AND in both, the country that's being traveled into is full of weird things.
OMG, I forgot about the Do-do character. I think he was in a couple cartoons. Either that or he was more memorable from this cartoon and I just don't remember the rest of it
@superleviathan i know it was oer a year when you posted, but i do want to bring what you said forward. Many of the elements from Wackyland were used in '43's Tin Pan Alley Cats during the main character's freakout scene, which explains why some afro stereotypes are included in the colour version (eg. big-lipped characters, the giant watermelon behind the "swingin'" rabbit)
That was his son, Gogo. And yes, out of all the Looney Tunes & Tiny Toons characters, the only ones that actually are related to each other are Yoyo & Gogo (father & son), and Marvin & Marsha (uncle & niece).
I see plenty of Dali in the color version, and plenty that was not very Dali in the B&W. One of the coolest cartoons ever made. Wiki the story of the Dodo, it was a real bird, very sadly hunted into extinction
When I first saw this as a kid, I was totally surprised when I saw the Dodo riding the Warner Brothers' logo.
That must have made theater audiences roar when this first came out!
You don't see inovation like that in a joke anymore.
i like how the Salvador Dali inspired landscapes were implemented well with the whole Wackyland aesthetic. All of the creatures are very strange and alien looking and it just fits very well. Also I love the random nature of it too, just looks like something from a dream
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Vi esse vídeo em 2019,quando eu tinha 11 anos.E pensar que hoje esse vídeo se tornou nostálgico e especial pra mim,principalmente porque eu tinha um DVD com esse episódio. (I am from Brazil )
EXACTLY what TH-cam is all about. THANKS A MILLION!
These cartoons are the reason why the Dodo is my favorite looney tunes character. I feel like no one talks about him other than the fact he had a son in tiny toons
And he only appeared in two cartoons.
@@yosefdemby8792great NOW someone comments on this
hes an obscure character which sucks because his design and where he comes from his really cool
I don't think Clampett intended him to be a recurring character.
@@yosefdemby8792 I think he was one of the studens of Tiny Toons
Really outrageous!!! Even the remake doesn't disapoint!🤩😘🤣😂
thanks for this video!
The part where the Dodo comes from the WB logo has to be one of my favorite parts of any cartoon. I don't know why.
The sequence at 2:50 with the dodo running blends in with the soundtrack.
I watched this cartoon when I was like 5. I watched it at least 30 times at that time, because I was just obsessed and fascinated. But now I understand all the references to Dali etc...
@Sly Cooper, I mainly watched "Dough for the Doh Doh" a few times on Kids' WB in '96 during the "Bugs N Daffy" run and maybe "Porky in Wacklyland" at least once on one of the shows CN still had.. i think it was the Bob clampeett show or Toon Heads or sumthing...
Both versions are awesome.
Interesting how the endings differ. The original ending is much more of a happy ending for the Dodo (he's "saved"), while in the 1949 version the other dodos arrive just too late for Porky to see them, and he drags the poor "last" Dodo up the ramp and away into captivity etc.
You have to wonder how long a pair of stinking handcuffs will hold the Dodo though (or how long Porky can be the dominant one of the chained duo). XD
Maybe the dialogue makes the difference (there's supposed to be dialogue right??) but it seems like the original ending is much funnier. The "time traveler reports dodo WAS eventually captured" gag (I guess that's what's happening there?) seems much more sophisticated and clever than the standard "dress up like a girl in order to seduce and capture boy" concept.
@@o_o_o_o_o-o_o_o_o_o Tbf in the remake all did Porky was just dress up as another Do-Do bird to fool YoYo (yes that's his name) and claim that he's "the last Do-Do"
@@TheComedicProsthesecondone Ohh hm yeah he's not actually specifically dressing as a girl dodo is he? I misinterpreted because the dodo suit looks like a dress. Okay, so the joke is that Porky tricked the dodo into becoming the hunter, I guess? Or something like that. That's better than what I'd thought it was.
@@o_o_o_o_o-o_o_o_o_o Yeah Porky was tricking YoYo into capturing him only for Porky to capture YoYo instead
Thanks for this
Thanks for this video/comparison. I have seen both versions seperately, in the past. It is so interesting to view them side by side!!!!!
Really loved the music, thank you for uploading this. I remember this cartoon from my childhood, back then I loved creative stuff like that. Now it just strikes me as creepy, haha.
really like the music
Nothing like old cartoons
This. Is. Truly. Awesome. Especially love the way the music fits. It's just so damn beautiful. I would kind of like to hear the two sounds on both cartoons just so i can see how similar and different they both are. But still, I LOVE the music on this!!! Just simply love it!
I see how the backgrounds are completely different. But both cartoons became the inspiration for one of my fave Tiny Toons characters!
Gogo Dodo
@@ythewoodpeckerfan5286 Yeah, that’s him!
Yes I like him too he funny and crazy xD
Fun fact: Gogo is the son of Yoyo!
It just goes to show people have been ruining originals for a lot longer than the last 10 years.
I love the choice of music in this video. Very cool. :)
I love how the WB logo suddenly zooms in out of nowhere.
Yo-yo Dodo, perhaps the only Looney Tunes bird who can really give Daffy Duck a run for his money.
Gorgeous, huge. Is really fantastic animation. Many thanks
such a sick track
I'm loving this tune!!!
3:31 - 3:34
This scene for Porky in Wackyland was revomed in the *sunset productions* version Because this was to avoid any mention or reference to Warner Bros.
great vid thanks- the music is awesome!
I prefer "Porky in Wackyland," but I like the outlandish colors & backgrounds used in "Dough for Do-Do."
I agree
You know what? The music for this vid is almost as surreal as the short itself.
Dang, never knew how many differences there were until I watched this. Really cool video! :D
They totally nailed Salvador Dali's style
Call me old fashioned, but I still prefer the black and white version. It left more to the imagination. When I was younger, I made my own color scheme and that’s how I still imagine the characters now.😊
Me to !!!!!!!
Porky's gonna get 4 hexillion dollars. In 1940s money.
FINALLY! It's been years until i can know what damn number that was!.
"P.S. 000,000,000"
You mean "Sextillion", it's a one followed by 21 zeroes.
@@annonymousannonymous9586 7 year old Comment but the reply was sadly, still actually necessary. 😅 OTL oof
this slightly creeped me out as a child but this still was one of my favorite shorts ever
now it genuinely unsettles me
I did not know they were dropping acid back in the 1930's, but this hallucinatory nightmare proves it.
Acid hadn't been synthesized yet, but the level of food adulteration in the 30s left plenty for the imagination
I remember both of these. Years after the first one they must have decided when they were redoing it in color to use some different ideas half way into the story, because I remember after those first 4 minutes or so they got quite bit different form each other
*"IT CAN HAPPEN HERE"*
he is only trying to compare the two visual parts
my understanding is that the original Clampett was damaged, so Freleng took the character cels and added the new backgrounds (the colour film) with the Daliesque references (or direct steals; he probably asked)
I think I remember washing this when I was younger
If I'm not mistaken, some of the retraced footage from Porky in Wackyland (from 0:50 to 1:17) from Dough for the Do-Do is actually stock footage from the earlier Tin Pan Alley Cats (which itself reused Wackyland footage). That's why some of the characters have "blackface" lips.
Oh wow, I didn't notice their lips design at all.
Same
I noticed! Probably one of the reasons they tweaked bits.
I have only seen the B/W version because of a DVD set I have. Cool.
Well done...love it!
@JanusHoW I think the 49 version is much more Dali- the clocks everywhere, the eyeballs and yeah, the bones and body parts too...the use of broken furniture and such instead of just regular plants. In any event, this is a fabulous side by side with great music - thanks so much for putting this together!
Neither version outdos the other; they are equally great.
They’re both great but the ending in the original black and white one is funnier I think.
@@seanmcbay You mean better animated?
I love both versions, but I think the original is a little better because the outlandish rubber hose animation better fits the "wackiness" of the cartoon. But the remake version is still special to me because it was one of the first Looney Tunes episodes I ever watched.
It was also used in Tin Pan Alley Cat
Clampett's Porky In Wackyland is still better imo because its, well, more original. The backgrounds, while in B/W are vastly superior. It doesnt feel like a boring wasteland and feels more full of wackyness
Beautiful
"I got the last dodo! I got the last dodo!"
I liked it
I actually prefer "Dough for the Do-Do." It's more controlled (even though it's supposed to be zany) and less arbitrary. And the color, of course, helps. Some better gags ("rubber band") and better ending, too.
The 3-headed man was obviously a copy of the actual Three Stooges, although in the later version Moe's hair is blond instead of black, making the satire less obvious.
salvador dali influence...
At 4:06 in the right frame, that's where my favorite pair of lines would be:
Dodo: I'm rich, I'm rich! I caught the last dodo, I caught the last dodo!
Porky: Oh n-n-n-no, you haven't. I'm rich, I caught the last d-d-d-dodo!
Collins Crapo dodos: yes sir! He's got the last dodo!
VODODODEDODOVOHDODEOHDODOVODEDOVEDODEOHDOHVODEOH
Party in Backyard? More like Porky in Wackyland
Moe of the stooges has his black hair in Porky in Wackyland but in Dough for the Do Do his hair is blonde.
My thought before watching this comparison was simple: 1938 "Wackyland" superb, 1949 "Dough" not as good. As if the classic black and white version, ranked as something like 8th among the 50 greatest cartoons of all time by animators in one book, couldn't be improved on. I'll still stand by 1938's "Wackyland," but the 1949 one had some Dali-like backgrounds that were great.
***** The comparisons are interesting. Clampett's 1938 version almost has to be viewed 10 times in order to catch everything that's going on with the backgrounds and the characters. That's its beauty. The 1949 Freleng cartoon is not quite that demanding but is great to watch too. Clampett has Porky landing in deepest, darkest Africa as I recall. Freleng's background almost evokes the U.S. southwest. I don't think color adds or detracts from this genuine cartoon classic.
prchristman I don't know, as someone who wasn't really aware of the hoopla of this cartoon, they seem to be virtually the same greatness-wise, except for the fun edition of color. (Although as good as they are, I certainly don't see either one as perfect, honestly)
0:07 - Wow, 4 sextillion (10 to the 21st power) dollars for the last dodo...pretty sure that's more than all the money in the world, even nowadays.
Also, we recently got a new short featuring the Dodo, but this time with Daffy Duck headlining. It's a hoot.
Verdade,eu assisti esse novo curta metragem!É realmente muito bom!
(I am from Brazil)
Yo-yo Dodo is my favorite character and has been so underused, the new short made me SO happy!
What I have to wonder now: Was the old animation simply re-traced onto new backgrounds drawn by Hawley Pratt (except for the end)? To be honest, I find the Clampett version to be scarier.
3 headed guy reminded me of the 3 stooges
I prefer the colorized version more, the backgrounds are amazingly surreal and matches the weird characters better.
I’m late as the update on fallout 76 but yes, the colored backgrounds are much more surreal. I especially love the giant bones, mixing in with the unnatural life.
Its not a colorized version, its a remake
@@2idiot2animate28 Yeah poor wording, I know they're different.
I prefer Porky in Wackyland more. Dough for the Dodo’s backgrounds look a little too barren to me
At one point in time, 4chan was indeed "Wackyland"
MAGNIFICO!!!
my oh my i enjoy this.
The first remake of a cartoon...
That also happened with the 1934 Mickey Mouse short "Orphan's Benefit" in 1941.
I watched this when I was younger.
I even thought that this would be gen 8 of pokemon.
That would be AMAZING
@Delcat42 Yeah...
It's called Dali by Bernard Fevre. It's in the description.
Nice that the song that you used is called Dali, because that's what the background of the color remake reminds me of. Anyone else?
The original reminds me more of the Alice series.
Gogo Dodo... Show!
That part where the monster comes in is the scariest part for m
Interesting that the color version apparently took its cels from Tin Pan Alley Cats, which was essentially a remake of the original black & white wackyland cartoon that then became banned for racism. You can tell because some of the characters have big lips from when they were transformed to blackface.
1938: pants
1949: no pants
Did this cartoon started with Porky flying over a map and he goes to africa, dark africa, darker and then wackyland? Or im thinking about other cartoon?
Pedro Silva Estas en lo correcto
Yes.
Me too!! Still can't seem to find it... I thought it was daffy?
In the original short, Porky in Wackyland, the flight is there. It might have been cut from the remake on account of being just the little teeny eeniest bit racist.
I prefer Bob Clampett's version mainly due to the smoother animation. Friz Freleng's version is artistically stunning and very Salvador Dali-inspired to the fullest, but Clampett's version has much more leeway creating zanier gags with the use of more frames. The dance at 2:23 in particular got lost in translation in Freleng's version because the rhythm does not hold up nearly as well with Mel Blanc's performance as it did in Clampett's version.
They're both great in their own ways, but personally I'll take Porky in Wackyland moreso.
somewhere in the form realm.
Is it my imagination or does the black-and-white version have smoother animation/more frames?
you're crazy
@JanusHoW I agree with you on that. Pretty much everything WAS the same frame for frame, except at the very end like you said. Either way I still love them, and I love the way this video was put together. ;-)
The first one takes place in a forest and the new one takes place in the desert
3:38
*_Gyatt._*
Anyone agree this is heavily inspired by if not directly inspired by heart of darkness? Someone is tasked with getting to someone else... there are three parts to Africa in both, AND in both, the country that's being traveled into is full of weird things.
Its apparent this new version was drawn with a rotoscope......
Pause at 1:26
Looks exactly like "Number 4" from "Kid's next door".
+Alex Greggary Looks exactly like the 3 stooges =P
+Alex Greggary Don't make a joke.
OMG, I forgot about the Do-do character. I think he was in a couple cartoons. Either that or he was more memorable from this cartoon and I just don't remember the rest of it
He has a walk through in who framed roger rabbit.
no se ustedes pero estos caputulos donde sale do doo me recuerdan a los cuadros de DALI
*"PORKY: RETURN TO WACKYLAND" Remastered Edition*
I wonder who'll get the reference... ;)
I understood that reference
@superleviathan i know it was oer a year when you posted, but i do want to bring what you said forward. Many of the elements from Wackyland were used in '43's Tin Pan Alley Cats during the main character's freakout scene, which explains why some afro stereotypes are included in the colour version (eg. big-lipped characters, the giant watermelon behind the "swingin'" rabbit)
Yo-Yo's walk cycle at the end is way better in the original. Just them little peets swingin' around
this is crazy
Don't do drugs, kids.
*****
Stay in drugs, don't do vegetables, and eat your school.
Ok, got it. I was confused about what to do with my drugs, school and veggies. But this really clears it up for me. Thanks!
Can’t say the same for the guys whom made this episodes or the other guys in the cartoon industry.
I did my school, ate my drugs, and I'm trying to get this carrot stick to light
good shit!
whats up with the eerie music
Yoyo Dodo also in World of Mayhem
1:03: "Swing it, brutha! Sa-wing it!!!"
cool...
I have seen that so many times when I was a little kid ... and seriously now I can say .. What the fuck my parents got me to see :P
Isn't Dodo in Tiny Toons? Omg!
That was his son, Gogo.
And yes, out of all the Looney Tunes & Tiny Toons characters, the only ones that actually are related to each other are Yoyo & Gogo (father & son), and Marvin & Marsha (uncle & niece).
I see plenty of Dali in the color version, and plenty that was not very Dali in the B&W. One of the coolest cartoons ever made. Wiki the story of the Dodo, it was a real bird, very sadly hunted into extinction
Welp, thank you for the fact ig
MUSIC?
Flavio Carranza darude-sandstorn low pitched
The first thing I noticed is that it was 4:20. :-)
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