Aaron had it right... he was going for a professionnal box/door since Lift Arc is a professionnal shop. the latch is huh... i have the samething on my wood fence, look terrible on a metal box lol
1. If you guys are still having trouble with mold/mildew in your plasma table get a bottle of Physan 20 off of Amazon, I use about .5 oz. Per 20 gallons of water in my table (added to my name brand plasma fluid that shall remain nameless to protect the innocent) and haven't had any issues for the last year. (1 20 oz. Bottle should do at least 2 table fuild changes and it runs about $15.00 ) 2. Nice job on the box build, I have run into some of the same issues when Bending the last 2 opposing sides and not having the ability to bend a full 90*. I have started to make the designs bend 2 sides and tab and slot the other 2 sides making them almost fixture on their own since you have to weld out the whole thing anyway... Have a great day Chris @ T-Town Welding and Fabrication
@Spike, I have been doing AutoCAD since 2002, and SolidWorks for about 5 years. I am a Structural designer, and CNC programmer for our 6000 watt Trumpf CO2 laser. When I do relief slit cuts to aid in bending, I will cut the slit at the end of the bend line as well. This takes the "puckering" out of the corners. The shorter the tabs in between (longer slits) the less force required for bending with the downside of more welding - but that's the trade-off. Keep up the good work fellas.
Do you also cut a small circle in the corners to relieve the bending? Or does the relief cut take care of that? Appreciate the tip! Will try it out. - Spike
@@LiftArcStudios @Spike, sorry for the late reply... The slit at the end fixes the puckering in my experience. I do add a corner relief on occasion depending on the flange placement. When flanges start or end in the middle of a straight edge, I use 1/8" gaps to separate the flange to brake from the rest of that edge. Sectional tooling in the press brake allows you to bend the flange without bending the rest of that straight edge. The K-factor I typically use in SolidWorks is 0.33 for the bend allowance, but recently have been testing at 0.5 because our brakes have really tight corners with our Wila punch/die tooling. The more brakes you have the higher the tolerance stacking, so just fine tune your models to match your tooling. Much respect fellas
Love seeing you do something like this. I work for a company that builds custom electrical control boxes for chemical plants so this is close to what I do all day!
I think it's professional of Spike to ask Aron if his cutouts worked for him to work with. It is important to have communication between the different parts of a company.
Agreed, that way you could add a return the outside of the door that would hold the door flat/keep pressure in all corners against the seal. Also the return would pinch against the seal better. You could see poor Aaron thinking it’s Friday, I get to go home soon, just do what he wants & it’ll make the beer taste all the more delicious😅
Great straight to the point video! You guys have a great team there! It's rare to have a to size template. I'm used to chicken scratch on a sheet of paper from a client!
That's no easy task. Aaron certainly made it look easy. Doing 3D metal origami is much harder than it looks. As a newbie in my Dad's shop (around 16 yo) my job was to make a lunch box. Yeah, mine was mostly square. Especially with the top fastened. 😊 I still have that one and the one my dad made me in the garage. You could park a truck on my dad's. Mine holds small measuring tools....mostly. I still have my dad's bend allowance reference book. Heavily annotated for what you were calling a K factor, I think. Thanks for the video!
i agree Aarons idea probably would have looked nicer and had a bit more focus on security. that being said i feel like tay probably knew from talking to the person that they didnt care that much and just wanted it finished faster since at the end of the day its just a box on a truck.
Hey Tay, Have you ever thought about looking into laser welding? If so, would you ever consider making a video about this process or just reviewing one?
I’m sure yall can figure this out but just a heads up, to decrease the size of the pierce holes at the beginning of the cut you need to decrease the pierce delay in your programming software. It’s trial and error on what lowest setting you can get away with. Nice job on the box though!
Good video except the sound not so good in the shop. I would be interested in a little more talk as the sheet metal bending was going on about what was going on. Then you could do some elevator music also.
Aaron had it right... he was going for a professionnal box/door since Lift Arc is a professionnal shop. the latch is huh... i have the samething on my wood fence, look terrible on a metal box lol
Agreed. But I think going for an internal latch, á la Fire Engine stylee, was gonna be a whole lot more complicated & expensive.
1. If you guys are still having trouble with mold/mildew in your plasma table get a bottle of Physan 20 off of Amazon, I use about .5 oz. Per 20 gallons of water in my table (added to my name brand plasma fluid that shall remain nameless to protect the innocent) and haven't had any issues for the last year. (1 20 oz. Bottle should do at least 2 table fuild changes and it runs about $15.00 )
2. Nice job on the box build, I have run into some of the same issues when Bending the last 2 opposing sides and not having the ability to bend a full 90*. I have started to make the designs bend 2 sides and tab and slot the other 2 sides making them almost fixture on their own since you have to weld out the whole thing anyway... Have a great day
Chris @ T-Town Welding and Fabrication
@Spike, I have been doing AutoCAD since 2002, and SolidWorks for about 5 years. I am a Structural designer, and CNC programmer for our 6000 watt Trumpf CO2 laser. When I do relief slit cuts to aid in bending, I will cut the slit at the end of the bend line as well. This takes the "puckering" out of the corners. The shorter the tabs in between (longer slits) the less force required for bending with the downside of more welding - but that's the trade-off. Keep up the good work fellas.
Do you also cut a small circle in the corners to relieve the bending? Or does the relief cut take care of that? Appreciate the tip! Will try it out.
- Spike
@@LiftArcStudios @Spike, sorry for the late reply... The slit at the end fixes the puckering in my experience. I do add a corner relief on occasion depending on the flange placement. When flanges start or end in the middle of a straight edge, I use 1/8" gaps to separate the flange to brake from the rest of that edge. Sectional tooling in the press brake allows you to bend the flange without bending the rest of that straight edge. The K-factor I typically use in SolidWorks is 0.33 for the bend allowance, but recently have been testing at 0.5 because our brakes have really tight corners with our Wila punch/die tooling. The more brakes you have the higher the tolerance stacking, so just fine tune your models to match your tooling. Much respect fellas
Love seeing you do something like this. I work for a company that builds custom electrical control boxes for chemical plants so this is close to what I do all day!
Thanks for the box fellas! Mounted up great & hose reel fit perfect.
I think it's professional of Spike to ask Aron if his cutouts worked for him to work with. It is important to have communication between the different parts of a company.
I think Aaron had it right…inset the flange and door.
Multiple ways of doing the same thing
Agreed, that way you could add a return the outside of the door that would hold the door flat/keep pressure in all corners against the seal. Also the return would pinch against the seal better.
You could see poor Aaron thinking it’s Friday, I get to go home soon, just do what he wants & it’ll make the beer taste all the more delicious😅
Great straight to the point video! You guys have a great team there! It's rare to have a to size template. I'm used to chicken scratch on a sheet of paper from a client!
You make the simplest jobs seem fun - way cool. Stay safe.
That's no easy task. Aaron certainly made it look easy. Doing 3D metal origami is much harder than it looks. As a newbie in my Dad's shop (around 16 yo) my job was to make a lunch box. Yeah, mine was mostly square. Especially with the top fastened. 😊 I still have that one and the one my dad made me in the garage. You could park a truck on my dad's. Mine holds small measuring tools....mostly. I still have my dad's bend allowance reference book. Heavily annotated for what you were calling a K factor, I think. Thanks for the video!
i agree Aarons idea probably would have looked nicer and had a bit more focus on security. that being said i feel like tay probably knew from talking to the person that they didnt care that much and just wanted it finished faster since at the end of the day its just a box on a truck.
I am glad you found the shop - losing it is a pain
Hey Tay, Have you ever thought about looking into laser welding? If so, would you ever consider making a video about this process or just reviewing one?
Another great project 👍👍
A latch for a truck box would have looked great
Great job on the box ! Too bad about the latch.
17:35 That tab could've been part of the original cut-out.
I’m sure yall can figure this out but just a heads up, to decrease the size of the pierce holes at the beginning of the cut you need to decrease the pierce delay in your programming software. It’s trial and error on what lowest setting you can get away with. Nice job on the box though!
Surprised you guys didn’t go for a service bed style latch.
Aaron makes a good box but he is even better at filling a box after work. 😉
Very cool.
love it
My favorite part of the box was all the sides, the corners were sharp, but the sides were where its at. Latch was... meh, good i guess.
Great job guys. But I really don’t like seeing Aaron not wearing a glove when welding. TIG is the most dangerous welding as far as UV and cancer goes.
Getting motion sick from the camera movements!
Good video except the sound not so good in the shop. I would be interested in a little more talk as the sheet metal bending was going on about what was going on. Then you could do some elevator music also.
He went on Friday stayed 3 days and come back on Friday.
A cabinet lock would have been 10 times better appearance. Any big box store. Your lock looks childish and an afterthought.
The sound sucks
What a bunch of cowboys so glad I served my apprenticeship with a real engineering company.
Just take the idea to ta real tradesman or just to an apprentice so much bullshit cad and cnc