@@WeeWoo6up also the fact that you can see the trail it leaves behind and the tiny maps you can encounter. What makes it worse is that in air rb you can see the enemy so in sim it must be def better
The nighthawk was interesting. It was a bomber classified as a fighter, used exclusively at night so it couldnt be seen, and the stealth was so good that only one ever got shot down because a radar crew got very very lucky. They were not supposed to go up against other aircraft at all.
The 262 aint overtiered. historicaly it would have fought the Meteor and F80 which existed at the same time as it. What doesn't make sense is the versions with the boosters, I don't think they ever saw production.
@ the 262 would have seen jets but mostly props The 262 and most of the early jets are outperformed by everything at their tier you can be in a match with a mig 15 the 262 is horrid in a up tier struggles at its tier and is better in a down tier , it fundamentally doesn’t function well with most of the things that it faces that can go faster turn better and climb quicker not to mention the flight model of a buss that makes it a task to even hit things that are moving quick the 262 doesn’t work well at 7 And the booster versions are literally almost identical to the first one other than the booster so it’s easy to figure out what they would do
@BAM_BAM_XCI Yes and no, stealth planes have nearly no difference to modern radar below lets say 10 km but this thing went aiganst early cold war sophisticated SAM which absolutely couldnt lock it at those distances, instead of solving this gaijin should just change the game and not the plane Same happedned with grom 1- could kill bases without having to go thru 200 fox 3 so they removed the grom instead of making the game actually enjoyabel
@Sleepjng yes they do, but it doesn't matter the radar. Not to mention, anything Russian isn't modern relative to American systems irl. Or the fact that iran can't detect F-35s with "modern" russian radars
Back in the 80's the competitor that lost to the f-117 was the f-19. It had a teardrop shape, The F-19 was not chosen because while the F-117 can evade all types of radar from the front, the F-19 had to Fly specific ways depending on the type of radar it was trying to get by. The + to the F-19 was it was set up with a larger weapons bay and equipped with AAM's as well as AGM. It was also dependent on global GPS systems which is a -.
When you flew up behind that person I was expecting you to slap them with your plane and send them spinning. When plane has no bullet, you become bullet.
Don't kid yourself. A bomber is still a bomber and it's still WT. You'll get shot down and your nearby teammates will continue flying in a straight line while blankly staring at the wall with perhaps a string of droll on their thigh
They should just make rewards for bombers destroying bases a lot higher, then maybe it would have a purpose in air rb, along with that give strike aircraft higher rewards for killing ground targets and less for bases
Why? Just have low-band radar get a rough position on it at considerable range and then have it go hard lock on high-band once it's within range, like Zoltan Dani did when his crew shot down an F-117 over Yugoslavia. Low RCS only goes so far.
I'm honestly surprised they are adding this. It's an attacker without a gun or missiles or even many bombs. It's stealth but like.. all it can do is bomb a couple things. I guess it might see use in ground RB but I don't see how anyone would want to use it in air RB. The whole design of it is to minimize player interaction.
And it’s way too detectable to be like its real life counterpart. Ir missiles are way too powerful against it and the plane is only stealthy facing it directly head on? Why? It should be stealthy from most angles except for directly above and below. IK they debuffed because of balance but I’m thinking they made it a bit too weak. What do you guys think?
@@MrPanzer234 it’s incredibly weak, such limited capability in air rb. If it’s only useful in one game mode why add it in the first place? And what’s worse, why add it when it’s a plane designed to basically fly solo and not in an environment with enemies. Basically an offline mode plane
@@Sleepjng I thought they weren’t exposed? I believe that the f117 used a special system to reduce its infrared signature. Like covering the exhaust with vents and lining it with special materials. Can you explain what you mean in more detail? I would like to understand where you are coming from.
Honestly, they should never have added the Nighthawk. Stealth has no place in a game like War Thunder. Stealth itself is already hard enough for enthusiasts to understand, let alone the Nighthawk specifically. There's no way Gaijin can model stealth even remotely accurately, regarding radar cross-section (RCS). Right now, all the Nighthawk is and all it most likely will be is a gimmick, not a game-changer, and certainly not as useful as some higher BR or even lower BR strike/fighters aircraft. It’s still relatively easy to get a lock on it (at least from the dev server test footage I’ve seen). If Gaijin actually made it as stealthy as it really is, people would just complain about it being overpowered. They should never have brought it into the game. There were plenty of other aircraft they could have used as squadron vehicles: the Northrop flying wing bombers, the XP-67 Moonbat (one of its variants would have been incredible), or even the XF-84H Thunderscreech. Sure, it never had guns in real life, but they could just give it the Thunderstreak’s gun setup and bomb load. For CAS, an awesome addition would have been the A-37 Dragonfly, statistically one of the most effective ground support platforms of the Vietnam War, outside of the Skyraider which probably did a bit better, considering that big, beautiful monster’s reputation.
Considering some parts of F-117 are still classified means that stealth no matter what could never be accurately modeled. This is either just testing ground how far they can go with aircraft or they are just adding it for clicks.
@@madkoala2130 honestly if its just for clicks there are still plenty of other aircraft they could have added like the su-47, F-15 STOL/MTD, the F-16XL. The f-117 personally in my opinion wasn't even the best option for clicks they could have added. Its something they really shouldn't have added I still think as a squadron vehicle the A-37 would have been a better strike option. If they are testing things then honestly that makes me worried about future additions.
@@floofles9473 then we can expect f-22 in less then 2 years, unless USAF or Lockheed puts a copyright on that to stop them (since gun companies were doing that for few years by now).
While it might be useless by itself it might still give Gaijin some insights on how stealth can work in game, so when planes like F-35 get added their stealth won't be completely jank. Additionally, who doesn't like stupid gimmick vehicles. Their might be shit in reality but are gold within our hearts.
Sim player here, and I think each player has the way they like to play. Im an airplane nerd and am overjoyed by the 117! I think in sim it can find a place to be useful was my point.
In my opinion vehicles like this should get a BR increase. The K9 VIDAR, M109, Bkan, F-117. These vehicles are all gimmick vehicles, that don't really work better or worse based on BR, but they still ruin all immersion.
Makes a lot of sense to be honest! The SPGs you mentioned have remained in use in the 1980s and later in some cases, and because they derp any tank with HE regardless of armour, why put them at 7.0 or lower? Your point makes a lot of sense and I agree, it’s not like these tanks are armour dependent, and I’d rather see an M109 fighting in a match with T-62s than Tiger 2:
@@thesnazzycomet For a bit more detail. These are all vehicles that are by no means competative, and are not supposed to be competative. The Artillery Guns do the same exact thing at 6.7 as they would be doing in 7.7-11.7 They have no armor to speak of, and all they have is a huge HE shell that may or may not overpressure a target. Throwing them against World War II vehicles don't help them at all, but it does ruin the immersion for every other player. And meanwhile people still take them up to higher BR as a meme, like the FV4005, KV-2, Ho-Ro, and the rest, none of these vehicles are particularly good anyways, they are funny, gimmicky, but not strong, and are not meant to be competative, but in War Thunder, vehicles like that have a place. Nobody forces you to play these vehicles, but if you do want to, the opportunity is given. You will never be strong in them, but it is fun to wreck someone, especially if you're wrecking an Abrams with a world war two bunkerbuster. You only ever meet a KV-2 in high tiers every so often, and it's not like something you ever think about encountering, and you can laugh if you did get killed by grandpa. That said, the Artilleries have no reason to face World War II, and early cold war tanks all the time, specifically because they are ruining the immersion for no particular positive. It's not fun, playing the King Tiger, perpetually facing cold war tanks, and having a real hard time anyways, only to be shot 3 times in 5 seconds by a K9 VIDAR, and dying to the second shot anyways. However meeting a K9, Bkan, or M109 in higher tiers does not take away from the immersion anyway, and it's less annoying. The F-117's problem is that it is a gimmick plane. You get funny stealth, which doesn't work too well, but it is there, and you look weird. And that's about it. If it was up to me, I'd throw it up to 9.7 to 12.0 give it a big SL booster in Air RB exclusively, and artificially increase it's bomb damage to deal with 2 bombs enough to take out one base reliably. No immersion problems, and the plane is now a fun gimmick. You can try to bomb a base, and if you make it, you'll get a nice reward in SL. If you don't that's okay. The thing is you can't lower it's BR, or it is fast enough to never be caught, while simultaneously too useless to do anything at all. You can however push up it's BR. For the plane that does not matter anyways, as it has to be catchable, and it does not have any Air combat capabilities wether it's at 8.7 or 10.3 It does not have a negative effect on the plane, as it's performance relative to it's peers remains unchanged. It does have a positive effect on the gameplay, because it does not ruin immersion in 8.7 TBH, Gameplay is the most important then comes Immersion, and then Realism. It sounds wrong at first, but think about it more.
I will say as well, I think this plane may go the way the Maus did and some other vehicles that are no longer available whether being OP or just useless. Could be a collectors thing eventually? But im calling that today 10/29/24. Lets see if Im right in a few years lol
Stealth aircraft should not be added in this game imo I love the aircraft but this aircraft does not fit the gamemodes currently available in WT I'm annoyed we got this and not the BUFF or my favorite bomber, Tu-95
So this aircraft is going to be the first stealth aircraft in war thunder?, OK: well I'm not complaining but again in all honesty I would have preferred a B47, or a ho18a flying wing, or the even the YB 49 or the xb35 flying wings, but anyway I'll definitely still pick up this aircraft parli do because I would think it would look very good in German markings from the second World War
@@thesnazzycomet which is why i've started playing world of warplanes casually partly do because only downloaded that game because the aircraft in that game are far more interesting than some bog standard boring as hell f15, i really don't get why people are so excited over another f15
@@charlieharris2864The issue is that there are two main groups of players in War Thunder: the World War II players and the modern players. Both groups want different things from the game. Gaijin focuses on the modern players because they make more money. I like to play modern vehicles, so I enjoy playing the new F-15 or Su-34, but I understand when someone is not interested in them. It is unfortunate that Gaijin needs to divert resources between the two groups.
@@Janno32_ Well I can understand that gaijin has to stretch resources between both groups, now if you like your modern vehicles (whatever floats you're boat) in my opinion, now I do own a few modern vehicles but I barely use them anyway, but also I think the best way to please both parties in this situation is say one patches dedicated to some modern military equipment, and then the next patch would be dedicated to World War II stuff and what if tanks and aircraft, so an example of what if aircraft and tank would be the Horton ho18a America bomber, and a example of a what if tank would be the E50, e75.
@@charlieharris2864 The issue is that modern players are a majority and make Gaijin more money. Since Gaijin is a commercial company, they do what makes them more money.
This plane ist useless at all, in GRB its really fun and it is an amazing test bed bc it will get loads of feedback due to being very hyped=a lot of players
@@Huewar huuh? The su 57 sated by sukhoi on their own is much less stealthy than this thing, i mean juet considering the shape but then you also account for the lack of RAM paint on the su and also the exhaust nozzle on the su which is not optimized toward loweting ir signature unlike f117
I am sure this will annoy some people! Keep in mind I was referring to Air battles only :)
The thing that people don't realize , Is that the F-117 was meant to bomb at 11km+ not at 2km...
this is the most useless plane to be added
Kinda yeah, its like a high tier PO-2
Yeah but it allows gaijin to make their future stealth aircraft semi realistc and not shit
@@Sleepjng nah its a cash grab and people are gonna waste GE day one for it.
@@thesnazzycometatleast the po2 has a gun
@@YesName_1 And it looks more funny
The thing that people don't realize , Is that the F-117 was meant to bomb at 11km+ not at 2km...
And for war thunder to actually implement this aircraft they would need to make it viable to reach 11km in an air rb match
@@WeeWoo6up air spawn?
@@WeeWoo6up Pretty sure he was talking about grb
@@WeeWoo6up also the fact that you can see the trail it leaves behind and the tiny maps you can encounter. What makes it worse is that in air rb you can see the enemy so in sim it must be def better
Usually bombers don't ment to be at 2000 meters anyway. :D
Gaijin be like: Put a stealth plane to a battle rating where you rarely see planes with radar missiles
It really should get an air spawn, maybe even a bomber spawn
it is a bomber designated as a fighter for budget reasons, it most certainly should get a bomber spawn
@@wbwam7710 it was mainly labeled as a fighter so that fighter pilots wouldn't feel like getting the f117 wasn't a derank or a smudge on their rep ☠️
The nighthawk was interesting. It was a bomber classified as a fighter, used exclusively at night so it couldnt be seen, and the stealth was so good that only one ever got shot down because a radar crew got very very lucky.
They were not supposed to go up against other aircraft at all.
Just give a groundstrike only gamemode already I would say, where both teams compete who destroys all targets first and no PvP is done.
The Buff makes more sense than the nighthawk.
@@gamerfan8445 literally though.
Countermeasures, workable payload if not too good, defensive turret? Even similar speed lmao
How did they add a plane that is somehow even more over tiered than a 262 and even more useless
The 262 aint overtiered. historicaly it would have fought the Meteor and F80 which existed at the same time as it. What doesn't make sense is the versions with the boosters, I don't think they ever saw production.
@ the 262 would have seen jets but mostly props
The 262 and most of the early jets are outperformed by everything at their tier you can be in a match with a mig 15 the 262 is horrid in a up tier struggles at its tier and is better in a down tier , it fundamentally doesn’t function well with most of the things that it faces that can go faster turn better and climb quicker not to mention the flight model of a buss that makes it a task to even hit things that are moving quick the 262 doesn’t work well at 7
And the booster versions are literally almost identical to the first one other than the booster so it’s easy to figure out what they would do
I think the F117 Nighthawktuah is perfect for 3.0 👍
@@FrostedEngines I’m amazed you’re the first person to say Nighthawktuah
@@thesnazzycometno Defyn did
Cam we please stop this. It's infuriating
I swear that hawk tuah shit so corny… She prolly can’t even nvm..
@ What, SPIT ON THAT THANG???
As someone said on X, they made it wrong because they hope someone will leak the real data on their forums.
@@captain0080 I’m pretty sure a Nighthawk leak has actually happened before
@@thesnazzycometthis game is better at uncovering military sectets than any cold war ers spy.
They should update the bomber tree again.
Add moder bombers, make the maps bigger, have them air spawn
I think that stealth tech is going to be useless in the CAS role. It will be seen, it will be shot.
And when it gets shot, it dies very quickly
that's the thing the night hawk shouldn't be able to be locked from the ranges it is being locked at in game
@BAM_BAM_XCI Yes and no, stealth planes have nearly no difference to modern radar below lets say 10 km but this thing went aiganst early cold war sophisticated SAM which absolutely couldnt lock it at those distances, instead of solving this gaijin should just change the game and not the plane
Same happedned with grom 1- could kill bases without having to go thru 200 fox 3 so they removed the grom instead of making the game actually enjoyabel
@Sleepjng yes they do, but it doesn't matter the radar. Not to mention, anything Russian isn't modern relative to American systems irl. Or the fact that iran can't detect F-35s with "modern" russian radars
Back in the 80's the competitor that lost to the f-117 was the f-19. It had a teardrop shape, The F-19 was not chosen because while the F-117 can evade all types of radar from the front, the F-19 had to Fly specific ways depending on the type of radar it was trying to get by. The + to the F-19 was it was set up with a larger weapons bay and equipped with AAM's as well as AGM. It was also dependent on global GPS systems which is a -.
It sucks but it's cool and is a test bed for future stealth planes
Stealth Arado B-2 or Vateour II B
Literally a PvE focused plane basically lol
I think to fix the immersion they should make it an event plane so barely anyone uses it
When you flew up behind that person I was expecting you to slap them with your plane and send them spinning.
When plane has no bullet, you become bullet.
Hey snazzy, quess what? It got a drag chute at least
@@Zelva_484 it does? When I tested it it didn’t
Why don’t they add this as a promotion vehicle to Warthunder Mobile, so when you do the challenge for it you get it for both pc and mobile for free
It seems to me the only way to use this thing is the way it was used historically, at night and ONLY at night.
Don't kid yourself. A bomber is still a bomber and it's still WT. You'll get shot down and your nearby teammates will continue flying in a straight line while blankly staring at the wall with perhaps a string of droll on their thigh
They should just make rewards for bombers destroying bases a lot higher, then maybe it would have a purpose in air rb, along with that give strike aircraft higher rewards for killing ground targets and less for bases
Been cool if in air RB it didn’t get “spotted” until you would get within 5 or so kilometers of it.
Угу ещё нужно перк шестое чувство добавить и лампочку обнаружения
Why? Just have low-band radar get a rough position on it at considerable range and then have it go hard lock on high-band once it's within range, like Zoltan Dani did when his crew shot down an F-117 over Yugoslavia. Low RCS only goes so far.
They should make it 7.0 for shits and giggles.
@@Quadrenaro please no
I'm honestly surprised they are adding this. It's an attacker without a gun or missiles or even many bombs. It's stealth but like.. all it can do is bomb a couple things. I guess it might see use in ground RB but I don't see how anyone would want to use it in air RB. The whole design of it is to minimize player interaction.
The Night Hawk should be played as how it was operated in real life fly it only at night battles and only in mixed battles
And it’s way too detectable to be like its real life counterpart. Ir missiles are way too powerful against it and the plane is only stealthy facing it directly head on? Why? It should be stealthy from most angles except for directly above and below. IK they debuffed because of balance but I’m thinking they made it a bit too weak. What do you guys think?
From behind its agruably the least stealthy due to exposed engine fan blades
@@MrPanzer234 it’s incredibly weak, such limited capability in air rb. If it’s only useful in one game mode why add it in the first place?
And what’s worse, why add it when it’s a plane designed to basically fly solo and not in an environment with enemies. Basically an offline mode plane
@@Sleepjng I thought they weren’t exposed? I believe that the f117 used a special system to reduce its infrared signature. Like covering the exhaust with vents and lining it with special materials. Can you explain what you mean in more detail? I would like to understand where you are coming from.
@@thesnazzycomet mostly true. But I’m still getting it asap when the update drops
I think they just added it to showcase the new radar cross section mechanics, and make so easy money out of it
Realistic air needs a new gamemode with objectives not just a deathmatch
Honestly, they should never have added the Nighthawk. Stealth has no place in a game like War Thunder. Stealth itself is already hard enough for enthusiasts to understand, let alone the Nighthawk specifically. There's no way Gaijin can model stealth even remotely accurately, regarding radar cross-section (RCS). Right now, all the Nighthawk is and all it most likely will be is a gimmick, not a game-changer, and certainly not as useful as some higher BR or even lower BR strike/fighters aircraft. It’s still relatively easy to get a lock on it (at least from the dev server test footage I’ve seen). If Gaijin actually made it as stealthy as it really is, people would just complain about it being overpowered. They should never have brought it into the game. There were plenty of other aircraft they could have used as squadron vehicles: the Northrop flying wing bombers, the XP-67 Moonbat (one of its variants would have been incredible), or even the XF-84H Thunderscreech. Sure, it never had guns in real life, but they could just give it the Thunderstreak’s gun setup and bomb load. For CAS, an awesome addition would have been the A-37 Dragonfly, statistically one of the most effective ground support platforms of the Vietnam War, outside of the Skyraider which probably did a bit better, considering that big, beautiful monster’s reputation.
Considering some parts of F-117 are still classified means that stealth no matter what could never be accurately modeled. This is either just testing ground how far they can go with aircraft or they are just adding it for clicks.
I should have read this before posting my comment. You cover some of the same things I mentioned.
@@MrPanzer234 what did you comment if i may ask? you said some i'm assuming i didn't think of a few things to say.
@@madkoala2130 honestly if its just for clicks there are still plenty of other aircraft they could have added like the su-47, F-15 STOL/MTD, the F-16XL. The f-117 personally in my opinion wasn't even the best option for clicks they could have added. Its something they really shouldn't have added I still think as a squadron vehicle the A-37 would have been a better strike option. If they are testing things then honestly that makes me worried about future additions.
@@floofles9473 then we can expect f-22 in less then 2 years, unless USAF or Lockheed puts a copyright on that to stop them (since gun companies were doing that for few years by now).
Reason:Hide from what?
@@logicmaster756 missiles, I guess
@@thesnazzycomet The radar missiles at... 8.7?
@@vaultence9859ground rb is 10.0 for it.
Airbase AA is the only place u r gonna find missles in large numbers, probably.
@@vaultence9859 hey I got killed by one in the video 😂
This plane would work great in sim and the stealth works but in air RB and ground RB it won’t work great
While it might be useless by itself it might still give Gaijin some insights on how stealth can work in game, so when planes like F-35 get added their stealth won't be completely jank. Additionally, who doesn't like stupid gimmick vehicles. Their might be shit in reality but are gold within our hearts.
@@Kapik1081 basically give them insight on what not to do
Sim player here, and I think each player has the way they like to play. Im an airplane nerd and am overjoyed by the 117! I think in sim it can find a place to be useful was my point.
They added a flying cybertruck.
As someone at around that br, I’m happy to take a lot of free kills
Gonna be interesting when the last players on each team just so happen to be in this shitbox
its cause they model it wrong just flat out, low fidelity radar and irst shouldn't be able to lock it from the distances it does in game
It doesn't get aim 9Bs even💀. Why would anyone play this. It sucks at being a bomber and if sucks in ground battle
depending on what kind of guided bomb, laser guided gbu, jdam they work differently
This is just the Arado at a higher tier and I’m honestly happy with that.
It's ok, they just rolled it out, give them time and they will make it worse.
It the perfect aircraft to add it tests stealth in the game and has no way to break the game
In my opinion vehicles like this should get a BR increase.
The K9 VIDAR, M109, Bkan, F-117.
These vehicles are all gimmick vehicles, that don't really work better or worse based on BR, but they still ruin all immersion.
Makes a lot of sense to be honest! The SPGs you mentioned have remained in use in the 1980s and later in some cases, and because they derp any tank with HE regardless of armour, why put them at 7.0 or lower?
Your point makes a lot of sense and I agree, it’s not like these tanks are armour dependent, and I’d rather see an M109 fighting in a match with T-62s than Tiger 2:
@@thesnazzycomet For a bit more detail.
These are all vehicles that are by no means competative, and are not supposed to be competative.
The Artillery Guns do the same exact thing at 6.7 as they would be doing in 7.7-11.7
They have no armor to speak of, and all they have is a huge HE shell that may or may not overpressure a target. Throwing them against World War II vehicles don't help them at all, but it does ruin the immersion for every other player. And meanwhile people still take them up to higher BR as a meme, like the FV4005, KV-2, Ho-Ro, and the rest, none of these vehicles are particularly good anyways, they are funny, gimmicky, but not strong, and are not meant to be competative, but in War Thunder, vehicles like that have a place. Nobody forces you to play these vehicles, but if you do want to, the opportunity is given. You will never be strong in them, but it is fun to wreck someone, especially if you're wrecking an Abrams with a world war two bunkerbuster. You only ever meet a KV-2 in high tiers every so often, and it's not like something you ever think about encountering, and you can laugh if you did get killed by grandpa.
That said, the Artilleries have no reason to face World War II, and early cold war tanks all the time, specifically because they are ruining the immersion for no particular positive.
It's not fun, playing the King Tiger, perpetually facing cold war tanks, and having a real hard time anyways, only to be shot 3 times in 5 seconds by a K9 VIDAR, and dying to the second shot anyways.
However meeting a K9, Bkan, or M109 in higher tiers does not take away from the immersion anyway, and it's less annoying.
The F-117's problem is that it is a gimmick plane.
You get funny stealth, which doesn't work too well, but it is there, and you look weird. And that's about it.
If it was up to me, I'd throw it up to 9.7 to 12.0 give it a big SL booster in Air RB exclusively, and artificially increase it's bomb damage to deal with 2 bombs enough to take out one base reliably.
No immersion problems, and the plane is now a fun gimmick. You can try to bomb a base, and if you make it, you'll get a nice reward in SL. If you don't that's okay.
The thing is you can't lower it's BR, or it is fast enough to never be caught, while simultaneously too useless to do anything at all. You can however push up it's BR. For the plane that does not matter anyways, as it has to be catchable, and it does not have any Air combat capabilities wether it's at 8.7 or 10.3
It does not have a negative effect on the plane, as it's performance relative to it's peers remains unchanged.
It does have a positive effect on the gameplay, because it does not ruin immersion in 8.7
TBH, Gameplay is the most important then comes Immersion, and then Realism. It sounds wrong at first, but think about it more.
If only we got night battles because I’m pretty sure I’ve only had 1 in a year and I’ve had night battles selected the entire time
its a perfect revenge bomber for hightier
A new, defenseless bomber gets added in my BR (easy kill in air RB!) :D
Its only in my nation D:
@@mr.morkite1598 literally me
War thunder players: we want modern bomber
Gets add
War thunder players: but is usuless😢
@@angelicafernandez9831 no one said anything about modern, we just want more bombers
whatever can be said on this. its gonna be good on sim on any br
I will say as well, I think this plane may go the way the Maus did and some other vehicles that are no longer available whether being OP or just useless. Could be a collectors thing eventually? But im calling that today 10/29/24. Lets see if Im right in a few years lol
Stealth aircraft should not be added in this game imo
I love the aircraft but this aircraft does not fit the gamemodes currently available in WT
I'm annoyed we got this and not the BUFF or my favorite bomber, Tu-95
Having the F-117 makes more sense than having israel in game.
This is more then dead on arival. No one will research this pos.
@@legion1yt they will and that’s the bad thing
When the RWR speaks Serbo-Croatian
there is no fighting with this things, Its basicaly a Buccaner or ArradoB2
So this aircraft is going to be the first stealth aircraft in war thunder?, OK: well I'm not complaining but again in all honesty I would have preferred a B47, or a ho18a flying wing, or the even the YB 49 or the xb35 flying wings, but anyway I'll definitely still pick up this aircraft parli do because I would think it would look very good in German markings from the second World War
@@charlieharris2864 I think we would all rather any of those planes you said
@@thesnazzycomet which is why i've started playing world of warplanes casually partly do because only downloaded that game because the aircraft in that game are far more interesting than some bog standard boring as hell f15, i really don't get why people are so excited over another f15
@@charlieharris2864The issue is that there are two main groups of players in War Thunder: the World War II players and the modern players. Both groups want different things from the game. Gaijin focuses on the modern players because they make more money. I like to play modern vehicles, so I enjoy playing the new F-15 or Su-34, but I understand when someone is not interested in them. It is unfortunate that Gaijin needs to divert resources between the two groups.
@@Janno32_ Well I can understand that gaijin has to stretch resources between both groups, now if you like your modern vehicles (whatever floats you're boat) in my opinion, now I do own a few modern vehicles but I barely use them anyway, but also I think the best way to please both parties in this situation is say one patches dedicated to some modern military equipment, and then the next patch would be dedicated to World War II stuff and what if tanks and aircraft, so an example of what if aircraft and tank would be the Horton ho18a America bomber, and a example of a what if tank would be the E50, e75.
@@charlieharris2864 The issue is that modern players are a majority and make Gaijin more money. Since Gaijin is a commercial company, they do what makes them more money.
Babe wake up snazzy just dropped a new vid
Please do a review on the T77E1, it’s a cool new AA
It’ll be round the corner :)
This plane ist useless at all, in GRB its really fun and it is an amazing test bed bc it will get loads of feedback due to being very hyped=a lot of players
@@Sleepjng it basically plays the same as a strike drone so why add it in the first place?
It really wont work at any brbitd be a free kill at any br basically
Oh good god i can't wait for the farm... :D
has anyone checked out the ir signature in sensor replay?
Irl it can carry ir missiles
you can fight a me262 lol
Same bomb load as Ju-87s
Serbian properganda
@@ethanloveland504 ahaha
reveling game play lmao
@@YeoldeOrange right? So interesting
The crazy part is that it’s stealthier than an Su-57 💀
Everything is stealthier than the Su-57
The Su 57 is supposed to be stealthy?
In fact, the F 117 has a smaller size on the radar, but otherwise, the SU 57 is much more stealthy
@@Huewar huuh? The su 57 sated by sukhoi on their own is much less stealthy than this thing, i mean juet considering the shape but then you also account for the lack of RAM paint on the su and also the exhaust nozzle on the su which is not optimized toward loweting ir signature unlike f117