John, thank you for the detail (p/n's, etc) you provided on the oil cooler assembly you acquired. I ended up ordering the BMW shroud ($37) and mounting hardware from my BMW dealer, and the SPAL fan VA31-A101--46A from EDS Parts ($59). I wired it to a fuse block I have mounted under the seat and ran it through a relay mounted on the cruise control bracket. I mounted a water resistant push on/push off switch (eSwitch RP8201) on the RH interior trim panel opposite the radio controls. Works great. The BMW shroud is canted downward so it circulates air around the cylinder area, which is also beneficial when idling in stopped traffic. Thanks again for all your videos.
That's great. I was going to go that route with a unbranded fan too, but I just happened to get lucky on ebay. After I made this video I realized that it was difficult to really know if the fan was running at road speed, since you can't hear it. So I installed an indicator light, which is working well: th-cam.com/video/62lDYsv-BSc/w-d-xo.html
John I live in tropical Queensland, Australia and close-calls with overheating is a constant problem for me on my 2007 RT for 9 months of the year. I can't thank you enough for this video. I've watched so many of your videos over the years but this video and the previous on the Hex exCam install on the RT are so incredibly informative that I can't express enough thanks. Thank you!
Muchas gracias por el video. Conseguí hacerme con un ventilador de la Policía y desde hace tiempo lo tengo guardado mientras buscaba información sobre la puesta en funcionamiento. Creo que resuelves todas mis dudas. El clima de las Islas Canarias no veneficia el uso de la RT en verano en entornos urbanos. Un saludo!!
The way HEX ezCAN is set up for that circuit, you press and hold for a moment to get the light to flash, and then you press again one to ten times to step up the power in increments. I don't think there is a way to have it immediately full power. It sounds fiddly, but you get used to it pretty quickly. It is possible that future software upgrades will change this, so I should check again.
I did cover this in the video--there are two methods to power the fan. One is to use a CANBUS device like the HEX EZcan to create new circuits. That's what I did, and you can see my video on that here: th-cam.com/video/0wyMCMryQ6c/w-d-xo.html . The other method would be to install a fuse box directly off the battery and power the oil cooler fan from that fusebox. In that case you would need a switch and you could choose to use a relay if you desire. A relay could be used to lower the amperage going through the switch. However, the fan really doesn't draw much, so the need for a relay is debatable.
You live in Florida? I got a 12v fan off a handicap buss for rear heater blower for sale its a perfect fit just dont know how to mount your fideo helped me know what itbshould look like thanks
I have purchased the Police bike fan. I do not have the EZ can system.Can I just wire the fan to my battery with a fused switch attached on the left side panel near the usb socket and just switch the fan on manualy when needed?
Without the EzCan device you'll want to pull power directly from the battery and install your own switch. It would be a bad idea to tap into the accessory circuit because of how much power the fan draws, which would then limit what else you could use that circuit for. However, you don't want a dozen connections at your battery terminals either, because they can come loose or cause voltage drops. So, you can head over to your local auto parts store or to an online source and pickup a small fuse block. These are common and very inexpensive. Find one with a weather cover over the fuses. The fuse block will connect directly to the battery and you can tuck it into a spot under the seat. Now you'll have 4-6 additional circuits available to you from the fuse block and you can use whatever fuse is appropriate for the wire size you are using. You'll run wire from the fuse block to your fan, and interrupt one of those wires with a switch of your choice mounted wherever you like. You'll just need to remember to turn the fan off when you shut down the bike. If you are feeling really clever, you can add a relay to turn off the fuse block when the bike is shut down. In that case, the relay is added between the fuseblock and the battery and controlled by the low draw switched power source of your GPS circuit. When that circuit shuts down the relay disconnects the fuse block. Either way, adding a fuseblock will also give you reliable power for other accessories, such as auxiliary lights or heated gear.
hi, i'm from italy, i've a question: i don't find the police's model wiring diagram for the 1200 RT, in this bike whom is controlled the fan? There is a specific temperature sensor or the BMSK ecu switch to on or off the fan with the engine temperature value? if is possible please help me. thanks!! Bye Luca.
The police bikes may have wiring which is destroyed when they are decommissioned. The way the fan is probably supposed to work, a temperature sensor monitors the oil temperature and turns on the fan when the temperature gets too high. All I can suggest is to test the fan by applying voltage directly, and then check the wiring to the fan to see if something has been cut or damaged.
Hi I like your video but I have a question about the fan rotation. I have read that some make the fan blow through the cooler and not “pulling” the warm air through the cooler and send I against the driver. I understand the thoughts if you only moving I slow speed. I have a r1200rt 2010, and my plan is to drive to Madrid and in some areas during the summer it gets up to 110-115°F so even in moderate speed it will probably need some help whit cooling. Do you have any thoughts about this?
I think it's crazy to push the fan out the front rather than draw it in with the fresh air! I don't even understand the motivation, is it to avoid hot air on the rider? The air from the fan is no different in temperature from the air blowing through the air cooler anyway, and having a slight breeze at slower speed can only help the rider. In any case, it's very little heat getting to the rider. I would encourage you to have the fan pull air in following the direction of the fresh air so that the fan isn't struggling against the incoming air and it can do it's job.
I,m from the UK,, and I agree with the other guys ,in the UK this is largely redundant,but looking at Motorworks the fan is available and not too spendy..
It's interesting to me how different the parts availability can be between the UK and the US. On my side of the pond finding some of these parts, like a cooling fan, is like coming across a unicorn. On your side they seem much more available.
John, thank you for the detail (p/n's, etc) you provided on the oil cooler assembly you acquired. I ended up ordering the BMW shroud ($37) and mounting hardware from my BMW dealer, and the SPAL fan VA31-A101--46A from EDS Parts ($59). I wired it to a fuse block I have mounted under the seat and ran it through a relay mounted on the cruise control bracket. I mounted a water resistant push on/push off switch (eSwitch RP8201) on the RH interior trim panel opposite the radio controls. Works great. The BMW shroud is canted downward so it circulates air around the cylinder area, which is also beneficial when idling in stopped traffic. Thanks again for all your videos.
That's great. I was going to go that route with a unbranded fan too, but I just happened to get lucky on ebay. After I made this video I realized that it was difficult to really know if the fan was running at road speed, since you can't hear it. So I installed an indicator light, which is working well: th-cam.com/video/62lDYsv-BSc/w-d-xo.html
John I live in tropical Queensland, Australia and close-calls with overheating is a constant problem for me on my 2007 RT for 9 months of the year. I can't thank you enough for this video. I've watched so many of your videos over the years but this video and the previous on the Hex exCam install on the RT are so incredibly informative that I can't express enough thanks. Thank you!
Thank you for the kind words, I'm glad the videos were helpful!
Muchas gracias por el video.
Conseguí hacerme con un ventilador de la Policía y desde hace tiempo lo tengo guardado mientras buscaba información sobre la puesta en funcionamiento. Creo que resuelves todas mis dudas. El clima de las Islas Canarias no veneficia el uso de la RT en verano en entornos urbanos. Un saludo!!
Great video. Do you have to press the Info button a number of times EVERY time you want the fan to run?
The way HEX ezCAN is set up for that circuit, you press and hold for a moment to get the light to flash, and then you press again one to ten times to step up the power in increments. I don't think there is a way to have it immediately full power. It sounds fiddly, but you get used to it pretty quickly. It is possible that future software upgrades will change this, so I should check again.
Do oil cooler fan need relay sir
I did cover this in the video--there are two methods to power the fan. One is to use a CANBUS device like the HEX EZcan to create new circuits. That's what I did, and you can see my video on that here: th-cam.com/video/0wyMCMryQ6c/w-d-xo.html . The other method would be to install a fuse box directly off the battery and power the oil cooler fan from that fusebox. In that case you would need a switch and you could choose to use a relay if you desire. A relay could be used to lower the amperage going through the switch. However, the fan really doesn't draw much, so the need for a relay is debatable.
@@tinderboxarts thanks sir appreciate it.
You live in Florida? I got a 12v fan off a handicap buss for rear heater blower for sale its a perfect fit just dont know how to mount your fideo helped me know what itbshould look like thanks
I have purchased the Police bike fan. I do not have the EZ can system.Can I just wire the fan to my battery with a fused switch attached on the left side panel near the usb socket and just switch the fan on manualy when needed?
Without the EzCan device you'll want to pull power directly from the battery and install your own switch. It would be a bad idea to tap into the accessory circuit because of how much power the fan draws, which would then limit what else you could use that circuit for. However, you don't want a dozen connections at your battery terminals either, because they can come loose or cause voltage drops. So, you can head over to your local auto parts store or to an online source and pickup a small fuse block. These are common and very inexpensive. Find one with a weather cover over the fuses. The fuse block will connect directly to the battery and you can tuck it into a spot under the seat. Now you'll have 4-6 additional circuits available to you from the fuse block and you can use whatever fuse is appropriate for the wire size you are using. You'll run wire from the fuse block to your fan, and interrupt one of those wires with a switch of your choice mounted wherever you like. You'll just need to remember to turn the fan off when you shut down the bike.
If you are feeling really clever, you can add a relay to turn off the fuse block when the bike is shut down. In that case, the relay is added between the fuseblock and the battery and controlled by the low draw switched power source of your GPS circuit. When that circuit shuts down the relay disconnects the fuse block.
Either way, adding a fuseblock will also give you reliable power for other accessories, such as auxiliary lights or heated gear.
@@tinderboxarts Thanks for the detailed and concise reply, It is much appreciated. I will order the bits and take your advice.
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hi, i'm from italy, i've a question: i don't find the police's model wiring diagram for the 1200 RT, in this bike whom is controlled the fan? There is a specific temperature sensor or the BMSK ecu switch to on or off the fan with the engine temperature value? if is possible please help me. thanks!! Bye Luca.
The police bikes may have wiring which is destroyed when they are decommissioned. The way the fan is probably supposed to work, a temperature sensor monitors the oil temperature and turns on the fan when the temperature gets too high. All I can suggest is to test the fan by applying voltage directly, and then check the wiring to the fan to see if something has been cut or damaged.
Thankyou this is very useful
Hi I like your video but I have a question about the fan rotation.
I have read that some make the fan blow through the cooler and not “pulling” the warm air through the cooler and send I against the driver. I understand the thoughts if you only moving I slow speed. I have a r1200rt 2010, and my plan is to drive to Madrid and in some areas during the summer it gets up to 110-115°F so even in moderate speed it will probably need some help whit cooling. Do you have any thoughts about this?
I think it's crazy to push the fan out the front rather than draw it in with the fresh air! I don't even understand the motivation, is it to avoid hot air on the rider? The air from the fan is no different in temperature from the air blowing through the air cooler anyway, and having a slight breeze at slower speed can only help the rider. In any case, it's very little heat getting to the rider. I would encourage you to have the fan pull air in following the direction of the fresh air so that the fan isn't struggling against the incoming air and it can do it's job.
Spal is a good brand for automotive fans.
I,m from the UK,, and I agree with the other guys ,in the UK this is largely redundant,but looking at Motorworks the fan is available and not too spendy..
It's interesting to me how different the parts availability can be between the UK and the US. On my side of the pond finding some of these parts, like a cooling fan, is like coming across a unicorn. On your side they seem much more available.