How Did a Wash Make a Knight?: Ceremony, Magnificence and Transformation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- We are going to be looking at another order of chivalry today - the Order of the Bath.
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Royal Coat of Arms of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from 1953 to 2022 (variant used as Sovereign of the Order of the Bath) by Sodacan (2014).
The Interior of Henry VII's Chapel in Westminster Abbey by Canaletto (early 1750s). Held in an undisclosed private collection.
Enamel effigy of Geoffrey Plantagenet, Count of Anjou on his tomb (c.1151). Formerly at Le Mans Cathedral, now in the Museum of Archeology and History in Le Mans.
The coronation of Henry IV of England, from a 15th-century manuscript of Jean Froissart's Chronicles. Held by the Civic Library of Breslau.
Portrait of Richard II 'The Westminster Portrait' by an unknown artist of the English school (1390s). Held at Westminster Abbey.
"Henry of Bolingbroke, flanked by the lords spiritual and temporal, claims the throne in 1399" from Jean Creton, Histoire rimée de Richard II (La Prinse et mort du roy Richart) (1401). Held by the British Library, London, Harley MS 1319.
Reconstructed View of the Tower of London, Edward I's Completed Outer Wall, 1300 by Ivan Lapper (2002-2003). © Historic Royal Palaces, Tower of London. Photo credit: Historic Royal Palaces, Tower of London [from artuk.org/]
St John's Chapel in the White Tower at the Tower of London, photographed in 2020 by Ethan Doyle White.
The Stone of Scone in the Coronation Chair at Westminster Abbey by an anonymous engraver in The History of England (1859) by D. Hume, continued by T. Smollett, E. Farr and E.H. Nolan. Also published in The Queens of England (c. 1889) by Sydney Wilmot.
Charles II of England in Coronation robes by John Michael Wright (between 1671 and 1676). Held by the Royal Collection; on display at Holyrood Palace.
An etching of “The execution of King Charles I” after an unknown artist (c.1649). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Portrait of King Henry VII by an unknown Netherlandish artist (1505). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Portrait of Elizabeth of York by an unidentified painter, British school (c.1470-98). Held by the Royal Collection, on display at Hampton Court Palace.
Drawing of Perkin Warbeck by an unknown artist of the French School, (16th century). Held by the Bibliotheque Municipale, Arras, France.
A perspective view of the Abbey and Palace of Westminster as they may have looked in the time of Henry VIII, prepared by H. W. Brewer for The Builder magazine; Vol. 47, No. 2180 (November 15, 1884).
16th century woodcut of the coronation of Henry VIII of England and Catherine of Aragon. From Stephen Hawes, A Joyfull Medytacvon to All Englande(1509), printed Wynkyn de Worde, 4to, n.d. (Cambridge University Library).
Artist's Impression of the Tower of London Site, 1547 by Ivan Lapper (1999). © Historic Royal Palaces, Tower of London. Photo credit: Historic Royal Palaces, Tower of London [from artuk.org/]
Near contemporary portrait of Anne Boleyn by an unknown artist (c.1550). Held by Hever Castle.
Photograph of St Edward's Crown, the centrepiece of the Crown Jewels of the United Kingdom, taken by Firebrace (2022)
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Portrait of King George I from the studio of Sir Godfrey Kneller, Bt (1714-1725, based on a work of 1714). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Portrait of the Prince Regent, later King George IV by Sir Thomas Lawrence (c.1814). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Portrait of Queen Victoria by Herbert Smith (1848). Owned by Aberdeen City Council under the curatorial care of Aberdeen Art Gallery & Museums.
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Photograph showing the Mantle of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath, taken by Nicholas Jackson (2009)
Insignia of a Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the Bath (Civil Division) from Sir Nicholas Harris Nicolas’ History of the Orders of Knighthood of the British Empire, of the order of the Guelphs of Hanover; and of the medals, clasps, and crosses, conferred for naval and military service, Volume iii, published in London, 1842. Photo taken by User:Dr_pda (2006)
Insignia of a Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the Bath (Military Division) from same as above.
Great video, Dr. Kat! I never knew that the Order of the Bath was related to a bath. I assumed it was related to the city of Bath. No day is wasted if you learn something new. Love your channel!
So basically, the Order of the Bath was created because Empress Matilda’s hated husband, Geoffrey of Anjou, was a filthy teenager who stank and no one would knight him until he bathed.
“No really, Geoff. It’s just part of the ceremony. Don’t forget the soap.” 😂
I hadn’t thought of it that way… but now you mention it…
And yet, Geoffrey was lauded as one of the most attractive men of his time, so make of that what you will.
@@orsino88 Matilda hated his guts and told her father he was spoiled, arrogant and petulant. Looks aren’t everything!
Yes, he’s never struck me as a great human being. Henry II seems to have inherited his intelligence from his mother.
That was great, thank you 🙏🙏👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🦘🦘🦘
Great presentation, Dr. Kat! And yes, please, more content on the arcane and fascinating history of the chivalric orders. Unless you need to do Christmas shopping. In which case, we’ll wait!❤
I agree, please do more videos of chivalric orders.
What a fascinating topic, yes I would dearly love a follow up. In an age that history is being hijacked, distorted to fit someone else's s agenda I enjoy listening to you. Thank you.
Oh yes, I would very much like an experimental archeology episode regarding the coronation next year. Thank you for asking. I love your interesting, well researched videos.
This was fascinating! I have often wondered about the levels of knighthood and these orders. So yes please! Do further videos! And it would be awesome if King Charles decided to follow your advice...what an experience that would be to observe. Merry Christmas from Canada to you and your family Kat!
Chivalry is fascinating. Anything more you share would be great!!
Reading the title, i expected to hear about the Wash, the estuary of the Fens. Being from the US, I confess I knew of that area from D. L. Sayers' Lord Peter Whimsey 'The Nine Tailors'. But of course, you have gone with the more universal experience! Thank you again for your wonderful videos.
Yes, please do more videos on these chivalric orders. 🙂
I should be fascinated to know more about what duties knights actually carried out! Thanks for the video, Dr. Kat, and I do wish you and yours a fabulous Christmas!
Thank you for a very interesting video. I find it fascinating to learn where these traditions come from. I think it vital to know one's heritage. Your videos make learning enjoyable and fun.
As said in Robert Burns poem “The best-laid schemes O' mice an' men/Gang aft agley,” the poet writes(lie,often go away)” is about inevitable failures of humanity. The act of accession and elevation of titles points to the fragility of even the best laid plans often go afoul; the results of events beyond their controls. Honor and civility are attainable through personal disciplines and distorted by the same. Life throughout the ages is an allusion where we plan for the best but are not surprised when it brings out the worst.
Yes, please, more! This is a perfect way of explaining all of this to my husband. That said - There are other "ceremonies" that "change" one (allegedly, hopefully) profoundly, in their outlook on life, and behavior. Baptism (as an adult), Confirmation, becoming part of DeMolay, a Mason, even the US Girl Scouts has ceremonies. I distinctly recall the one we did moving from "Brownie" to "Junior" Girl Scout levels; you crossed a small bridge, with a mirror placed under it to be the "water" you pass as you "bridge", and we tossed our old Brownie hat into the mirror abyss and crossed to the other side as a Junior. There we tears. It meant something to us. Funny how decades later we can talk about it and realize it did change us.
My Brownie to Scout transition was called a "flying up", if I recall, and we received a badge with 2 wings to put on our sash, below the official troop number, to show we did not join as Scouts, but moved up from Brownies. And yes, it was a big deal at the time. Thanks for the memory.
Yes, I went through this ceremony as well when I was younger. The "Bridge to Juniors." And I still remember it!
Thanks for another fascinating talk! Yes, let's certainly hope that Charles III integrates some of these wonderful medieval traditions into his coronation events!
Yes I'd love to see videos on other orders of chivalry. And it would be so cool to see a recreation of the ceremony.
Yes, we would be very interested in videos about the other orders. I recently visited London and spent hours (the guides wanted me to move along, I'm sure) soaking in every corner of St. George's Chapel. Thanks very much for all of your hard work!
This was very fascinating. I love all your history videos that you make. I have learned a lot from your videos .
So happy to have found your channel a while ago. I have always loved history and you do good job making it accessable. Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year to you and yours.
Yes please to videos on the other orders of chivalry.
Oh Dr. Kat! I live your sprigged blouse. It’s adorable! And the Henry VII Lady Chapel roof is incredible!
Very interesting. I hope the people involved with the coronation will hear your suggestion. It would be a great opportunity for learning. And, yes I'd like to hear more about the other orders and honors
This was so interesting and would very much like to learn about other Orders. Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year to you and yours!
Yes, Dr. Kat! I am totally in agreement with your vison of the coronation! And it would be great to see them all bathing!
You are my favorite historian. You make so much of history come alive and make sense.
I would love a video about the other orders... such an interesting topic.
Ah, your description of this makes me want to write historical romance. Can you imagine seeing the men emerge from the bath, after all that praying, and secretly being in love with one of them? Who would you have been, to have seen that? Then perhaps being present for the kind of procession you're describing? There must have been so much passion around this ceremony, named or unnamed. I love this so much. Thank you for making this video, Dr. Kat.
Thank you Dr. Kat. I have learned so much from you about history. I look forward to learning even more in the future. May you and your family have a wounderful christmas.
Fascinating, as always!
Interesting & fascinating ceremony Dr Kat!Always look forward to Fridays & seeing your face. Love how you present historic events Yes I would like to learn more about chivalric orders. Take care
I agree Dr. Kat, I hope His Majesty does update some of the ceremonies. 😊
I agree, it would be really cool. I hope you cover the Order of the Bath ceremonies whenever, wherever, and however rhey occur.
Very interesting Dr Kat. Great video! 👍
American here but I would love to see the revival of the ancient ritual done too.
A very very interesting lecture this time. I would be happy to learn more about the various what do you want to call them orders of Knighthood Etc in in the British Empire. Your lectures bring me many many hours of enjoyment and you always increase my knowledge. That's something to be getting to wonder if it's going to go out of my head as fast as it's come in. I can still remember watching with all the neighborhood on the one TV we had Queen Elizabeth's coronation and wedding when I was small. It was entrancing then and its memories that have stayed with me all my life. Have a happy blessed Christmas.
Since I love experimental archeology I obviously love your suggestion that controls the third coronation be used as such.
Thank you Doctor Kat. I'd be keen to watch either of your suggestions. You never disappoint!
Terrific video. Fantastic information. Please keep doing videos on the orders. Thank you!
Fascinating as ever Dr Kat. I would love to learn more about the other Orders of Chivalry and what about the history of the Coronation Ceremony, the Regalia/Robes etc? With the Coronation fast approaching I am reading / watching as much as I can as I have always been fascinated by the history of our Kings and Queens and it’s a great excuse to indulge my hobby and learn more.
Dear dr Kat what a pleasure to listen to you I would like to wish you & husband & your baby boy a very merry Christmas please be happy & safe in the new year I love listening about the bath thank you for explaining it I enjoyed your chat about the order of the garter please do more seeing as we will be seeing King Charles III coronation so that we can understand more love ❤ you take care
always a delight dr. kat
Yes, more order videos please! And last week was the first time I forgot of your Friday upload. I celebrated by getting into a car accident. No more leaving the house on Friday for me.
Oh no! I hope it wasn’t too bad!! Stay safe!
Completely off topic, but Dr. Kat you look especially lovely in this posting!
Checked and still Subscribed. Interesting and gripping stories. Thank you.👏🏼🇦🇺✅
Very fascinating but I think these things should just remain in the past. Love your videos Dr. Kat
Thanks!
Thank you so much 🥰
Another great video presentation! Your message at the end of the video sure did instruct me to smash the subscribe button after watching your videos for quite some time now! I wasn’t aware I hadn’t subscribed since your videos upload onto my feed frequently! In any case, job well done and I look forward to future uploads.
First time I caught a Premier… Love this topic Thank you
Yes please Dr. Kat. 😊
I wouldn’t be surprised if Chuck decided to harken back to history and tradition during his coronation. The monarchy is at an all time low in terms of popularity, and an appeal to a more “mystical” and “romantic” time might be a decent way to stabilize his position. I don’t know if that would work though, as he might come off as a sort of Louis XVI (“partying while the people are starving”)
Yes, please more
Thank you this was very interesting. Merry Christmas to you and yours. 👼🎶🌟
Yes it would be SO COOL if they had the service in the St. John ____ chapel in The Tower!!!
I love your videos. ♥
Thanks for the very enjoyable and informative videos. Merry Christmas to you and your family from Emily in Wisconsin, USA.
Thank you very much! Merry Christmas to you and yours too 🎄
That was another good one. And yes, please do videos on the other chivalric orders too.
Thanks for another fun and informative post! Have a great holiday!
Love your channel and HAD
Yay I’m so pleased ☺️ thank you so much!
It was the anointing that was the most sacred ceremony that was thought to make the king or queen semi devine. This was done sometime before the coronation it was the anointing which made the king not the crowning. Although it was acknowledged that if the sovereign for whatever reason could neither be anointed or crowned he was still the legal sovereign.
I would like to learn the other order,, it would be nice to do the knight of bath done as a mediaeval ceremony
Yes!! 🥰
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Great video as always. Yes please do further videos. If possible , I would like you to make a video explaining what will happen in King Charles III coronation. Thank you and Happy Holidays.
Sounds like a good idea
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@readingthepast I would be interested in the history of the various ceremonies and traditions that we may observe in the coming coronation. 25:27
Fantastic ☺
Dr. Kat, I would be *so* interested in you analyzing the coronation next year that it's hard to capture my enthusiasm in a TH-cam comment!!
I'm interested in all of the historical information both heraldic and archeological.
Where were the Royal Apartments in the Tower of London? In the White Tower?
I think it would be fascinating to see the installation of knights during King Charles' coronation in May.
I used to believe in the Divine Right of Kings however the Magick has gone for me xxx
I am curious of how many members there are in the current order?
It would be amazing if King Charles reinstated the bathing and ceremonies of the Order of the Bath at the Tower. If televised, the knight candidates better wear drawers. Why not send him your idea?
When did you do the order of the garter video?
Edit: i went to the playlist that you discussed, but it isn't there. I was really interested in the order of the garter once you made mention of it
This is my 5th attempt to watch this lol, not that your boring, but I like to watch documentary videos in bed and I always fall asleep lol
•Would they be naked when they where bathed?
•where they bathed in a river or a bathhouse?
When I was a child we celebrated the birthday of the Queen on the 24th on may I remember singing the 24th of may is the queen's birthday if we don't get a holiday we will all run away with my class mates I have no idea when her true birthday happened but I am certain that she celebrated another day we'll pretty certain ,🤷🏼♀️😇👋🙋🏼♀️👋
I remember my mother singing that, ( I'm 88), but I think she sang "It's Oak Apple day".
@@learnenglishwithauntyjeanp1646 wow I had to look oak Apple Day up as I am Canadian I wonder if May 29 2023 will be an important day for our New King Charles and will it replace our current May 24 holidayI wish I could hear you sing it in memory of your mother. I too have lived in the reign of three monarchs I was born seventy two years. I hope to be proficient in the English language some day but not enough to worry about it I don’t really see the point of worrying about sparse punctuation marks or proper spelling and since I love long run on sentences too I am sorry if my comments lack clarity….well not really sorry but as a Canadian I am required to say sorry. My son says I should so I sprinkle a few full stops and commas when I remember them do you think that the language police might be offended that I don’t make that effort? There I am pleased with myself that I actually inserted a question mark and in the correct place too. I have a question for you do you enunciate Aunty to rhyme with anti I tell my nephews that I am not there Ant I am their daughtie / dotty Aunty. Since apples don’t fall far from the tree I credit the source of my sense of humour to my wonderful mother . She likely inherited hers from Grampy Ho Ho all of his grandchildren called him that as his laughter sounded like that. I have it on good authority that I am not really dotty even though I have burned my supper a few times I haven’t burned a hole in the pan..yet. I told my primary doctor that I would like the cognitive test though due to family history and that I viewed as a base line for the future after discussing it with my son. He was so relieved that my pots and pans didn’t have holes as a close friends mother is in bad shape . When I asked the Doctor if he thought that I could tell my son that I got an A+ on the test he laughed and said yes.. it was the easiest test I aced it even read one part of it upside down as he was writing a three word question for me to read and write a response as he was handling me the clipboard I told him what I had read my reply was about six times as long as I like to be a wordy devil . It’s six in the morning so I have to take my eye drops and continue my day thank you for letting me know about oak apple Ciao Linda AKA adniL eaM setaG I didn’t mention that I missed the day grammar was taught and I regret that I left out a few words that would have made my intentions clear…it is what it is I hope you find it in your heart to not give me an F maybe a C please or a D if you must 😇🌟🍀🌟👍👍👍🌟❤️🌟🖖🖖🖖🌟🍀🌟🖖🙋🏼♀️🖖🇨🇦
May 24th was Queen Victoria's birthday and Canadians have observed it since 1845. Nowadays it is celebrated with a long weekend (Saturday through Monday) - it is less common now to hear it called Victoria Day - now it is more often called simply 'May 24th' and a new name 'the May long' has recently appeared. Since Victoria's death it has been considered to be the celebration of the birthday of the current monarch It is the traditional beginning of summer, often celebrated with fireworks (when I was a child it was also called Firecracker Day) and outdoor parties.
@@annemorton5236 thank you for filling me in . I am having a bit of a chuckle that I never did any research as to why we were celebrating the 24th . You would think that someone who was born over seventy years ago would have been aware of the story behind the celebration. I am amazed that I truly don’t remember it being referred to as Victoria Day. I can recall that Canada Day was Dominion Day so I am left to conclude that I was not paying attention to a commonly known fact that is universally recognized by everyone else. Another small chuckle I expect that we will still be celebrating the Queen’s birthday in 2023. It’s funny that I knew the Queens birthday was celebrated on a different day in the UK but I assumed that it was done so for political reasons. Perhaps weather related. I shall have a conversation with my young granddaughter so that she will know the truth about the 24th. I am smiling and looking forward to teaching her the words of the song too and filling her in on the Oak Apple day as well. Now I am wondering if Charles knows the story. one of life’s mysteries Thank you again for sharing your knowledge with me. Live long and prosper 🖖🍀🌟🍀👍❤️👍🍀🌟🍀👋🙋🏼♀️👋
@@annemorton5236 I am now considering rewriting the song for my granddaughter with a reference to King Charles 111 and his multiple great grandmother. Who was on the throne when my grandfathers were born 😇🤷🏼♀️🤔😊👋🙋🏼♀️👋
As always, wonderful content. Would really appreciate more of the same 26:23
It'd be awesome if King Charles combined the two ceremonies so we could all experience this event and see what it was like
I'd be down for experimental archaeology, as a heathen American I'm not super into modern monarchy. (At the very least, I think they have enough money not to need to be funded by the taxpayer)
Being an American, I don’t have a pro or con feeling about monarchy except to say, the elitism is really stark to me. But it’s not my country. Y’all do you. However, the whole heraldic slice with the banners and badges etc is interesting to me. And who doesn’t like diamonds, gold and silver?
I think long ago it would have been a big deal with privileges and responsibilities therein, but today, it's a party and something to brag about.
Scone is pronounced Skoon, not as in a scone with jam…..
I can’t believe how many historians I hear getting that wrong.
Do you know, that was how I was going to pronounce it but I started second guessing it so decided to check how to pronounce it. Clearly I was led astray. Thank you for letting me know so I can get it right next time ☺️
Not to be confused with the Scone of Stone!
I believe it is pronounced differently in different regions of the country. I have tried to figure out which is correct, but have come to the conclusion that there may not be one correct pronunciation.
I wonder how much all of this pointless pomp and ceremony costs us when people are struggling to pay their bills?
Be interesting to see what they do with all those badges if and when Scotland, N. Ireland and Wales do their own thing!
~£1.29 pp?
@@jfs59nj loaf of bread when there is none in the cupboard ? Xxx
Most other European monarchies have gotten rid of these ceremonies for this exact reason - only the UK holds out. That’s why it’s the most expensive monarchy.
I know times are hard, but please treasure your history and culture. It's so rich. Happy Christmas. 😊
I'd rather be a knight of the bath or garter than a groom of the stool!!GROSS!!