TortugaPower: "physics. physics. physics. *gets a ruler*. physics. physics. physics" Me: Fire. Miss. Pray. "Lord let me hit something before I get sunk". Adjust. Fire. Miss. Pray harder Started playing this just two days ago. It's really nice.
No, the treaties had nothing to do with the renaming, that was Hitler's idea basically, to avoid any loss of morale from losing a ship named after the Fatherland. He made the decision after the Graf Spee was lost. There was a Hipper class cruiser supposed to be named Lutzow as well, but it was sold unfinished to Russia in 1940 , freeing up the name so they could rename Deutschland.
@@Pandadude-eg9li i mean yeah but since the Yamato was one of the the largest ships in history at the time i think they had a decent reason to name it that
HE shells work better against Destroyers and merchants, as they have no armor plating. It's also generally recommended to use AP shells if their armor thickness is equal to or greater than half your barrel width.
Just want to point out that this is not world of warships and that there is no over pen system in place. Not sure if you're relating this to world of warships or not but just thought I'd mention it!
Love the game, been playing as Germany too. Early 41 still and sinking 80k+ tonnage. A note thou, early on I spent hours sinking merchants fleeing after I killed of the escort. Now is auto kill of merchant from the map/? menu. Good luck
+Ulf Jönsson Very good to know about the auto-kill merchants! I also spent time hunting them down in off-camera escapades, so this will save a lot of time. Thanks!
Hah! Came across your channel with the Victory at Sea Pacific demo and saw you have done most of the other games I was researching lately haha. Was playing some old school Silent Hunter 3 as I was feeling a WW2 naval itch and it also led me to checking out games like this as well as Cold Waters which I see you have done one of too XD. Thanks for taking the time to make these.
Somewhat accidentally, my channel has morphed into a naval combat focused one. I'm still a huge fan of general wargames and play those, but the naval stuff is particularly popular. You mentioned WitP:AE in your other comment, so I'd like to recommend you check out the Rule the Waves content. It's not WW2 (more WW1 time), but it's a real gem that mixes naval combat with ship design and throws a bit of strategy/budget management on top of that. Cheers!
As the royal navy its pretty easy to win the Battle of the Atlantic. All you have to do is get 30 Subs and place 1 in each sector, this prevents any german u boats from attacking convoys for some reason and you can then pretty much do whatever the Damn you want, if you want you can even purchase surface ships later (I would recommend 1 heavy BB,1CVE because they are cheaper and 1 DD )to hunt after some subs or surface ships.
The reason on limiting ships you can build is for 2 reasons .... 1. the A.I. would out produce you in battleship making it impossible to have a surface engagement. 2. Germany didn't has access to the metals needed to build these ships so Germany would never be able to field more battleship then what they actually produced purely in terms of material.... that was the biggest issue with Germany wartime economy it completely relied on imports for war material
Lovely stuff, was hoping to see you playing this. Will you be going for a Uboat heavy style, or going to get them battleships? There's even a few H-39's you can buy.
+JamesTMAK1 For this campaign mode (Battle of the Atlantic), I'm going to focus on submarine warfare, and subs are really powerful from my experience so far (against *everything*, even surface ships). But I plan to collect a pool of the best ships for surface engagements, because that's lots of fun :)
Yeah, they are pretty comparable. I think the VII had better diving speed, but less depth -- mostly as you said it was about range. I believe that Atlantic Fleet treats the VII as "worse" though.
I put Hood vs 7 Aux Cruisers Results: Hood: light damage | Aux Cruisers: all sunk North Carolina/Washington vs Same amount of Aux cruisers Results: North Carolina/Washington: medium damage | Aux Cruisers: all sunk Explain this!
Hi! When I choose Battle of the Atlantic I manage to engage the enemy but then my ships get damaged and run out of ammo and torpedoes... How do I send them for repair and reload ammo? Cheers! Thomas
the main point of using HE shells is to make a explosion inside enemies ships to make the most damage, but if it unable to penatrable, it will do almost no damage, so depend on the angle u shoot the ship u use HE or not. Also if the gun angle is so great about 25 to 30 I also use ap because with large callable guns, even hit water next to the ship even do damage (the distance is long, accurate not very reliable
Yeah, the AP usage into the water is even better if the shell continues its travel into the lower hull under the belt. "Waterline" hits are devastating since ships usually aren't armored below waterline.
This is more of an arcade style game than strategy. It’s pretty much shoot till you find range. I’m sure it was to a certain extent in real life as well, where it’s mostly by feel and experience than doing a formula to get perfect shot. Too many variables, but then again he turned all the variables off like wind. Bland...
think it's due to gravity, mostly. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ideal_projectile_motion_for_different_angles.svg makes some intuitive sense, perhaps. honestly, it's all magic to me. hope this helps.
@@TortugaPower audacity has one, I think most audio apps will. You just need something that is more strict with cutting volume when you stop speaking, compressors generally do this, they normalise the volume so that the moment you stop speaking it is silent, and when you are speaking the volume is consistent, but some dynamics are lost - this is fine for speech. Some modern mics do this with noise suppression and other functions. Some people put sound proofing foam behind their screen, egg cartons with the tops ripped off will also help, to minimise audio reflections from the walls.
So I did learn a lot about the game from you but please for the love of god, shoot HE, high explosive, instead of AP, armor piercing at destroyers. Destroyers do not have armor so an AP shell will pass straight through the ship without ever arming doing minimal damage
Howdy IronDuke, a name I recognize from somewhere (the AtG forum perhaps). In this series I will be using the map throughout the campaign for range-finding (it's already been recorded for a year or so).
Eww...math and physics talk! Sacrilege! Game looks interesting, but it sucks you can't go full AU. Talk about a drawback...if you can't build more surface ships than what the DKM had in actuality, there's not much chance of winning in a surface campaign. British numbers will eventually overwhelm you.
The game actually ends up being pretty easy (I defeated the Brits in this campaign), and although the submarines are hugely overpowered (or were at this time). Also, I'm not sure about this, but I think you can rebuild sunk ships? At least the AI does.
All I do is state the facts. And my bi polor kicks in when logic isn't used. I understand you are commentating .but still. Also. Sense your here I did enjoy this. So I have two questions. One can you do a British campaign. And two is there a Pacific version of this game. As I like the Japanese navy the best.
yes I'm a Moron for something that makes me get angry faster than you. thanks for pointing out the obvious kid. know what go read a fucking book. maybe youll learn something.
TortugaPower: "physics. physics. physics. *gets a ruler*. physics. physics. physics"
Me: Fire. Miss. Pray. "Lord let me hit something before I get sunk". Adjust. Fire. Miss. Pray harder
Started playing this just two days ago. It's really nice.
If your prayers continue to go unanswered, there's always math!
Me: uses radar
its a mixed bag of prayer and math, its hilarious when those two things come together
Funny because God basically made the universe work off prayer and math as well.
Same well almost i dont get sunk except for my 8 ships
Third ship in Graf Spee class was Deutschland, but they became nervous about losing a ship named 'Germany', and renamed her Lutzow
You mean because of the naval treaties?
No, the treaties had nothing to do with the renaming, that was Hitler's idea basically, to avoid any loss of morale from losing a ship named after the Fatherland. He made the decision after the Graf Spee was lost. There was a Hipper class cruiser supposed to be named Lutzow as well, but it was sold unfinished to Russia in 1940 , freeing up the name so they could rename Deutschland.
Ah, very good to know. Thanks for all the info.
Japan: *Names ship Yamato in 1941*
Yamato is the ancient word for Japan and the present day word for the Japanese ethnic group.
@@Pandadude-eg9li i mean yeah but since the Yamato was one of the the largest ships in history at the time i think they had a decent reason to name it that
I would really like to see a new version of Pacific fleet where it was revamped to be exactly like Atlantic Fleet
On the contrary, the physics talk is great. You don't get stuff like that from gamers, and with a game like this, the more info the better. Nice vid.
"Elementary, my dear Watson!" Maybe they can use this game for geometry classes...
I just find the lack of "in game purchases" very refreshing.
Killerfish has yet to breach this market. I guess its directors aren't greedy enough.
HE shells work better against Destroyers and merchants, as they have no armor plating. It's also generally recommended to use AP shells if their armor thickness is equal to or greater than half your barrel width.
+R Blinson (Cr4zy Bl1nd Guy) Thanks for the info, I completely agree
Just want to point out that this is not world of warships and that there is no over pen system in place. Not sure if you're relating this to world of warships or not but just thought I'd mention it!
Love the game, been playing as Germany too. Early 41 still and sinking 80k+ tonnage. A note thou, early on I spent hours sinking merchants fleeing after I killed of the escort. Now is auto kill of merchant from the map/? menu. Good luck
+Ulf Jönsson Very good to know about the auto-kill merchants! I also spent time hunting them down in off-camera escapades, so this will save a lot of time. Thanks!
Thank you, Tortuga Power! Before watching your videos, I did the same
Im may be on 80k to but probably 150k
"it doesn't show wind strength" yes, it does. The darker blue the wind marker is, the stronger the wind.
Hah! Came across your channel with the Victory at Sea Pacific demo and saw you have done most of the other games I was researching lately haha.
Was playing some old school Silent Hunter 3 as I was feeling a WW2 naval itch and it also led me to checking out games like this as well as Cold Waters which I see you have done one of too XD.
Thanks for taking the time to make these.
Somewhat accidentally, my channel has morphed into a naval combat focused one. I'm still a huge fan of general wargames and play those, but the naval stuff is particularly popular. You mentioned WitP:AE in your other comment, so I'd like to recommend you check out the Rule the Waves content. It's not WW2 (more WW1 time), but it's a real gem that mixes naval combat with ship design and throws a bit of strategy/budget management on top of that. Cheers!
@@TortugaPower yep I'm to
Wow this game looks really good even for a turn based game
the rocking of your ship affects the shell landings
No, not in this game. Unless you mean listing, then it does affect the shell trajectory.
As the royal navy its pretty easy to win the Battle of the Atlantic.
All you have to do is get 30 Subs and place 1 in each sector, this prevents any german u boats from attacking convoys for some reason and you can then pretty much do whatever the Damn you want, if you want you can even purchase surface ships later (I would recommend 1 heavy BB,1CVE because they are cheaper and 1 DD )to hunt after some subs or surface ships.
The reason on limiting ships you can build is for 2 reasons .... 1. the A.I. would out produce you in battleship making it impossible to have a surface engagement. 2. Germany didn't has access to the metals needed to build these ships so Germany would never be able to field more battleship then what they actually produced purely in terms of material.... that was the biggest issue with Germany wartime economy it completely relied on imports for war material
Lovely stuff, was hoping to see you playing this. Will you be going for a Uboat heavy style, or going to get them battleships? There's even a few H-39's you can buy.
+JamesTMAK1 For this campaign mode (Battle of the Atlantic), I'm going to focus on submarine warfare, and subs are really powerful from my experience so far (against *everything*, even surface ships). But I plan to collect a pool of the best ships for surface engagements, because that's lots of fun :)
I done battle of the atlantic and I managed to sink the hood so I managed to get Bismarck and tirpitz when I unlocked them
Same but I sunk hood with Bismarck and tirpitz
You need to play silent hunter.
+Wargames SA What a great game! I've only played SH3 from the series, but I played that one for countless hours.
+TortugaPower play sh 5
+Wargames SA I heard SH5 was a dud. SH3 for Atlantic, and Silent Service II for the Pacific (maybe one day I'll make the investment for SH4)
+TortugaPower 4 was boring for me
3 with the Grey Wolves mod is the best.
The type IX wasn’t ”better” than the type VII. It had longer range but the type VII was more manouverable etc.
Yeah, they are pretty comparable. I think the VII had better diving speed, but less depth -- mostly as you said it was about range. I believe that Atlantic Fleet treats the VII as "worse" though.
@@TortugaPower
If I remember correctly the VII's could crash dive in 30 secs...while the longer range patrol IXs required a full Minute .
8:00 It‘s not true that gun elevation/range ratio is linear. And if you are so keen on realism, switch on the wind effect.
I think I might pick this up, £6.99 on steam, not to shabby a price.
You don't need to hit lightly armored ships to do damage. A near miss will be equally deadly.
Fair point.
I put Hood vs 7 Aux Cruisers
Results: Hood: light damage | Aux Cruisers: all sunk
North Carolina/Washington vs Same amount of Aux cruisers
Results: North Carolina/Washington: medium damage | Aux Cruisers: all sunk
Explain this!
@@muhdshuhairi609 16 inch HE against what's esentially merchants with guns?
Hi!
When I choose Battle of the Atlantic I manage to engage the enemy but then my ships get damaged and run out of ammo and torpedoes...
How do I send them for repair and reload ammo?
Cheers!
Thomas
You send the ship/ships back to port, and then click "repair/re-arm" (the little wrench icon) and select the ship/ships.
You should move subs to the entrance of the Mediterranean so when warspite comes out you can sink it
Germany had so many more ships to play with that had been built or just designed, why didnt they add more for both sides?
who else saw this after looking up atlantic fleet after watching the Jingles vids on this
the main point of using HE shells is to make a explosion inside enemies ships to make the most damage, but if it unable to penatrable, it will do almost no damage, so depend on the angle u shoot the ship u use HE or not. Also if the gun angle is so great about 25 to 30 I also use ap because with large callable guns, even hit water next to the ship even do damage (the distance is long, accurate not very reliable
Yeah, the AP usage into the water is even better if the shell continues its travel into the lower hull under the belt. "Waterline" hits are devastating since ships usually aren't armored below waterline.
Awww comeon! Being better at taking advantage of the wind than the AI makes this game fun.
Iv basically won every battle no matter which side I play but I lose every campaign
How do you win??
This is more of an arcade style game than strategy. It’s pretty much shoot till you find range. I’m sure it was to a certain extent in real life as well, where it’s mostly by feel and experience than doing a formula to get perfect shot. Too many variables, but then again he turned all the variables off like wind. Bland...
Subscribed, because of the physics lesson
Who knew that tangent would prove so beneficial.
think it's due to gravity, mostly.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ideal_projectile_motion_for_different_angles.svg
makes some intuitive sense, perhaps. honestly, it's all magic to me. hope this helps.
Title: Atlantic Fleet
Game: WoWs
Funny enough, I've corrected this already at least once. Hmph. I will try to explain this to TH-cam again.
Looks like a good game!
It's great as a single WW2 naval battle simulator.
why u keep using AP against a DD?
It hurts my soul. I mean, he did say he was only going to be using one barrage, ends up only using it
I love seeing ships sink
You've come to the right place.
I did the buy your ships option and I did all u boats still have like 2000 dollars lol
is it an offline game or not ?
Yes its all offline No online Multiplayer
@@Sloth0815 ok thx for ur coop.
Did you try the single battles?
I did, but I think the only one that I play on-camera is the Bismarck one.
TortugaPower Could you do some videos of them single battles?
How did you use a ruler in this game?
Get a ruler and put it on the computer screen. How dumb are you?
Use a compressor to take the tail end reverb out of your mic audio.
Are you referring to this? manual.audacityteam.org/man/compressor.html
@@TortugaPower audacity has one, I think most audio apps will. You just need something that is more strict with cutting volume when you stop speaking, compressors generally do this, they normalise the volume so that the moment you stop speaking it is silent, and when you are speaking the volume is consistent, but some dynamics are lost - this is fine for speech. Some modern mics do this with noise suppression and other functions. Some people put sound proofing foam behind their screen, egg cartons with the tops ripped off will also help, to minimise audio reflections from the walls.
I bet your mic has a built in function that would help.
Love the game only being 12$ or at least that’s what I got it for.
So I did learn a lot about the game from you but please for the love of god, shoot HE, high explosive, instead of AP, armor piercing at destroyers. Destroyers do not have armor so an AP shell will pass straight through the ship without ever arming doing minimal damage
she is not look like lutzow but graf spee. i guess they made only one model for class
Thanks for pointing that out. I think you're correct on this, but I don't know myself.
Please don't always use the map for weapon ranges. The game is trying to model WWII naval gunnery.
Howdy IronDuke, a name I recognize from somewhere (the AtG forum perhaps). In this series I will be using the map throughout the campaign for range-finding (it's already been recorded for a year or so).
I really like admiral graff spee but i think i prefer her in world of warships instead
Fair enough
i have atlantic fleet on my tablet
Buy the ships that you want
Sound advice if I want to enjoy the game!
The fucking sin function is coded into BASIC!!! Fucking BASIC! How in hell can a developer fuck up something as simple as this?
I don't think they cared too much, and maybe there's more that goes into it. It'd be really interesting to ask the developers though.
All I can imagine, is that its for ease of play, as an oblique throw is an outrageously simple calculation.
games the pacific fleet and the atlantic fleet
I'm not sure if I've played the Pacific Fleet version.
@@TortugaPower its also same as the atlantic fleet
And i subscribe too😊
The pacific fleet have the largest battle ship in the history the yamato this is were americans and the japanese
And also i have the pacific fleet premnuim
I have the lite version and I got put up against the hood and repulse
This Sucked! Jk, you just earned yourself a sub! =D
HOL' THE FUCK UP! THIS GAME IS ON STEAM!?
Yes
@@TortugaPower how much?
Eww...math and physics talk! Sacrilege!
Game looks interesting, but it sucks you can't go full AU. Talk about a drawback...if you can't build more surface ships than what the DKM had in actuality, there's not much chance of winning in a surface campaign. British numbers will eventually overwhelm you.
The game actually ends up being pretty easy (I defeated the Brits in this campaign), and although the submarines are hugely overpowered (or were at this time). Also, I'm not sure about this, but I think you can rebuild sunk ships? At least the AI does.
This would have been better if it had been realtime and multiplayer.
Adamstrange 3000 wouldn't it just be world of warships then?
i hate idiots that fire ap at targets like dd or light crusiers. its a waste of ammo. all ot will do is over pen
Yep, HE should be used against DDs, but that seems like a rather strong and unnecessarily hateful viewpoint!
All I do is state the facts. And my bi polor kicks in when logic isn't used. I understand you are commentating .but still. Also. Sense your here I did enjoy this. So I have two questions. One can you do a British campaign. And two is there a Pacific version of this game. As I like the Japanese navy the best.
bi polor? are you a moran? lol
yes I'm a Moron for something that makes me get angry faster than you. thanks for pointing out the obvious kid. know what go read a fucking book. maybe youll learn something.
dillan mcdaniel
hahaha awsome tears,thank you very much for that