IMO, a lot of strange ref decisions: lets where usually strokes are given, and no lets where giants as both willstrop and rösner with their enormous reach clearly can get to the ball. but, i know, ref decision is ref decision, at least it was like this through the whole match.
What gets me is that the ref never reversed one of his decisions after they asked for reviews! What's the point of having reviews if the ref has already decided he's not reversing any of his original decisions!?
Played minor league in Germany in my 20s in the 1990s. A bit taller than those two. Watching them move through the court makes me say: No. Knees. Left. Love the sport that took my joints ;-)
The video refs in this tournament were overly deferential to the original decisions. This game had a decision that was 100% incorrect (15:40) in the replay and was allowed to stand. I worry about the standard of "enough evidence to overturn the original decision" mentioned by the commentators on occasion. The sport wants to minimize overturned decisions, but the focus should be entirely on better original decisions, not less stringent reviews.
No let call at 8-9 was good...don't know why commentators thought it was a "howler"...Roesner "did enough to clear" as ref said earlier about Willstrop, just because the latter sticks his racquet into Roesner's legs doesn't make it a let...
+Diego Mercado Wilstrop hit the ball which came directly at him from the corner of the wall. Rosner was in a position to play the ball but was unable to so it resulted in a stroke to Rosner
I've been playing squash for 25 years, and I'm more confused about strokes/lets than I've ever been. This is like watching Figure skating with the bizarre decisions. Can someone point me to a TH-cam channel that really breaks down the nuances of stokes/lets? I would be so appreciative.
as a side note...I'm a application programmer. I have got a crude RF tagging system that can be pinned to each players shoulders and both feet, and a clip-on for the top of the racquet head. This is to collect data as to how players really interact.
This is because Willstrop had the slight possibility to hit Rosner if he volleyed the ball. He asked for a let just for Rosner's safety. It is possible that he was hoping for a stroke as he was holding the ball from Rosner until a call was made.
all these decisions of the referee are pretty strange. that is the reason why squash did not qualify at the Olympic Games. Such judges should be banned because it ruins the game and the audience makes it incomprehensible !!!
A lot of let that could be played by Rossner with a little bit of effort. The let is a good call, but he is boring to watch. I hate refering this kind of player.
One of the best uploads on free game friday! Good job psa squashtv!
Yes, this game was unreal, not to be missed, thanks PSA!
Wow what a shot by Rosner at 19:48!
I agree no let. It was willstrop who caught his racket against rosner
back in the day when just hitting it hard no matter where it goes was the way to play.
IMO, a lot of strange ref decisions: lets where usually strokes are given, and no lets where giants as both willstrop and rösner with their enormous reach clearly can get to the ball. but, i know, ref decision is ref decision, at least it was like this through the whole match.
What gets me is that the ref never reversed one of his decisions after they asked for reviews! What's the point of having reviews if the ref has already decided he's not reversing any of his original decisions!?
I don't believe it's up to the ref to reverse his own decision, it's in the hands of the video referee.
Played minor league in Germany in my 20s in the 1990s. A bit taller than those two. Watching them move through the court makes me say:
No. Knees. Left. Love the sport that took my joints ;-)
Jesus that backhand is so tight.
The video refs in this tournament were overly deferential to the original decisions. This game had a decision that was 100% incorrect (15:40) in the replay and was allowed to stand. I worry about the standard of "enough evidence to overturn the original decision" mentioned by the commentators on occasion. The sport wants to minimize overturned decisions, but the focus should be entirely on better original decisions, not less stringent reviews.
No let call at 8-9 was good...don't know why commentators thought it was a "howler"...Roesner "did enough to clear" as ref said earlier about Willstrop, just because the latter sticks his racquet into Roesner's legs doesn't make it a let...
I am starting playing squash and I would like to know what happened in the 28:55, I don't get why he won the point.
Thanks,
+Diego Mercado Wilstrop hit the ball which came directly at him from the corner of the wall. Rosner was in a position to play the ball but was unable to so it resulted in a stroke to Rosner
yes, you can't hit yourself with your own shot, that gives the other player a stroke
I've been playing squash for 25 years, and I'm more confused about strokes/lets than I've ever been. This is like watching Figure skating with the bizarre decisions. Can someone point me to a TH-cam channel that really breaks down the nuances of stokes/lets? I would be so appreciative.
as a side note...I'm a application programmer. I have got a crude RF tagging system that can be pinned to each players shoulders and both feet, and a clip-on for the top of the racquet head. This is to collect data as to how players really interact.
More of these please!!! Perhaps with referees/ video refs that aren't blind.
17:07 was a double if u see it in slow motion!!
I think it was fine.
Why was the very first point a let?
This is because Willstrop had the slight possibility to hit Rosner if he volleyed the ball. He asked for a let just for Rosner's safety. It is possible that he was hoping for a stroke as he was holding the ball from Rosner until a call was made.
16:35 is definitely a no let. Don't understand the commentators at all
Rosner doesn't half moan after every shot...jesus.
fukin' great
Nonsensical no-let decisions like that at 8-10 is why squash finds it hard to get into the Olympics!
It wasn't nonsensical, Roesner just kind of climbed on his back rather than finding a line to the ball.
Have you watched Judo?
Referring decisions has got nothing to do with why squash hasn't yet made the Olympics. Its all cash and viewing figures it seems
Lol these refs need kind of complementary course
Half of the time it was arguing about the interference. Not a pleasant game to watch.
Willstrop - one of the most unfair players.
James looks so gangley and off balance all of the time. No wonder Rosner gets frustrated trying to get around him.
all these decisions of the referee are pretty strange. that is the reason why squash did not qualify at the Olympic Games. Such judges should be banned because it ruins the game and the audience makes it incomprehensible !!!
Reffing in this match was terrible
Rosner played shamefully. A woeful game.
A lot of let that could be played by Rossner with a little bit of effort. The let is a good call, but he is boring to watch. I hate refering this kind of player.
I think Roesner's argument was that Willstrop wasn't clearing properly, it wasn't up to him (Roesner) to have make the extra effort to compensate.
these guys are not no ramy ashour..very awkward on the court and slow
They both are 6.4 feet tall...They look slow they aren't because of their long legs
So you haven't seen them playing live. The pace of all pros is unbelievable and you won't feel it as much as watching next to the court :D
Referee was very inconsistent. We won't like squash if like referee decision in succession.
Terrible decision.
I didn't think it was inconsistent, can you cite two examples of similar points?