Cheater AI: "I can see the entire map at anytime!" Also Cheater AI at 39:24 : "Hmm might as well send an observer to it's death to see what's he's up to"
3v3 weird shit to GM when? Harstem/uThermal/goblin trio collab series plz, we need this. Not just one game. A full season of Pots n Pans to GM would go straight down the hatch, plz make it happen
@@supernova9088 Guess you missed last few weeks of 3v3s and not least the vid of today, 2v2 with goblin. It was more like competitive play than Wierd Shit to GM, but 2v2 with goblin regardless. And hes planning(if enough interest ofcus) to move ahead with a monthly 2v2 tournament. 1v1s is allegedly too stale, and I totally agree. 2v2 is were hes going. But if logic follows(ik, dont take this math too serious) If 2v2 is better than 1v1, then surely 3v3 is better than 2v2s.. No? But 1v1s is currently about to be faded out(for a bit at least)
@martinwinther6013 I keep up with the videos. Started the 2v2 video but have to watch it later. I don't think harstems micro is good enough for thermal to play with him. I don't enjoy harstems videos
@@supernova9088 Traditional micro kinda loose relevans in 2v2/3v3s, but thats beside the point. The aim is obviously fun more than it is winning, to see what shennanigans we can get away with in a different meta, perhaps flip that meta upside down. Winning is ofcus almost always more fun, but the days of competitive gaming is over for now. - 2v2/3v3 have much more to it than just channeling resources into 1 player, and Harstem is plenty good to hold his own in Weird Shit to GMs in 1v1s. Harstem is a solid 5k+ MMR all day long and twice on sundays(touching 6k here n there iirc) Harstem is not all analytics, he is a good player who also gets some good laughs when the odd stuff works, and I think their energy would match, even synergise. At the end of the day, its not all about skills. Most viewers of this channel is here for the fun, not for the pure MMR
"Cyril T. Spelcasting, at your service." 🎩 Frickin epic hold against the AI. Nice to see even Marc enjoys the guilty pleasure of hoovering up the map with mass carriers. :)
I wonder if the AI has a trigger that prevents it from attacking until the player has a certain amount or supply of combat units. Might also just be a side effect of the programming - only attacking when the player reaches a particular threat level or it maxes out.
I can't believe I was late to one of my favorite series! Absolutely enjoy testing out the limits of the AI as it's more of a controlled environment than the shenanigans that happen on the ladder.
Your reactions at 8 minutes are hilarious! LOL It is actually nice to see you struggle against insane AI. Makes me feel less sucky. I think Carriers instead of Tempests might have a better chance because you can send out the interceptors and retreat while they keep attacking? Maybe? Or getting a Mothership to cloak all of your cannons? And now I'm watching game 2... LOL When you end up with 32 probes on one base, is it better to have them mine from far away instead?
Fantastic upload, enjoyed this! It was odd on the AI that most times your phoenix approached the big army, it seemed to be a trigger for it to attack your base.
Audience challenge (World Record Attempt) take a shot whenever uThermal on autopilot tries to make workers with just 1 worker and "YOU HAVE NOT ENOUGH MINERALS" is played over and over and over again.
you're amazing, isn't this technically two probes.. :( . saw your note in the second game; gg ! also, they're not attacking because they have map hacks ? Only attack when they feel they can win .. / kill a nexus.. ??
53:43 I think it's possible to resume from replay and take command of the other army. Would it be cool (or possible) to put yourself in a winning scenario and the AI in a bad spot, and then take command of the AI to see if you can make it out?
Have you thought of this strategy yet: Disruptor-Phoenix. Phoenix pick up enemy, disruptor shoots underneath, Phoenix drops enemy unit right before disruptor ball explodes. Perfection.
I don't play protoss or ladder and use the game as a warm up for my hands against bots but did anyone else know you could force field a cannon or did my eyes deceive me around 37:20?
This is a minor facet, and I'm not sure how much difference it makes, but an additional thing you can do to increase the difficulty is to kill all 12 of your starting probes. Right now you start with 50 minerals *and* 1 probe, meaning you sort of start with *two*. But you can go even further beyond.
The AI has map hacks. I think you’re unintentionally manipulating its behavior by massing cannons. “Why won’t the ai attack into my 5 cannons at 3 minutes?” I think you’re ensuring the AI will try to out-turtle/macro you.
If you're scouting with one of the starting probes...then technically you're not starting with 1 probe as you typically use a starting probe to scout. If you're going to start with one probe then you need to scout with any probe that is built.
@@Sparky31388 Title of the video is "Starting with 1 probe" not "Starting with 1 mining probe". You're starting with 2 if you're using a starting probe to scout. That scouting probe saves time and resources at a crucial time in the game and allows for strategy earlier allowing better build managment vs. having to use a probe the was built. Using a pre-built probe that you start with helps reduce the record time he's trying to break which is an unfair advantage. Also, if it was "just 1 mining probe" then why did he kill all the other probes instead of using them all to scout? He messed up. He had 1 probe left and nothing there to kill it. So he used it to scout not realizing he needed to kill that one as well and not use it to scout.
Lol I had the same thought. Not sure it counts as cheating tho because that probe did not mining and the point of the challenge is to be low eco... so it's probably a Grey area
I don't think it really changed anything. If he couldn't use that probe for scouting, then he just wouldn't have scouted at all, and I don't think that any of the information he got from scouting actually changed his build order at all.
The poor AI is over there finally updating their "GG Counter" to 1 / 83,413,721
I think I've seen every single one of your videos. Morning, evening, night I always love uthermal vids. Thanks and keep making content!
Thanks king :)
Cheater AI: "I can see the entire map at anytime!"
Also Cheater AI at 39:24 : "Hmm might as well send an observer to it's death to see what's he's up to"
I loved that you GG'ed the computer! Very good manners! :)
This will come in handy when skynet comes alive.
Lol I’ve done that accidentally as well.
Habit :)
Mark: Incredibly adept at forcing very economical trades in his favour.
Also Mark: 6 Disruptor shots for 1 creep tumour.
he said gg 😭😭😭😭 i love uthermal so much
I didn't even realise this until my brother told me hahaha
Mass battery+ mothership + mass void ray shreds insane ai when turtling.
Hey Marc! :)
"The Base livs" A much closer Christmas saga we couldn't reach out to. But indeed, Marc did! :D
3v3 weird shit to GM when?
Harstem/uThermal/goblin trio collab series plz, we need this. Not just one game. A full season of Pots n Pans to GM would go straight down the hatch, plz make it happen
Not a good combo at all. This dudes a solo solo army by himself
@@supernova9088 Guess you missed last few weeks of 3v3s and not least the vid of today, 2v2 with goblin.
It was more like competitive play than Wierd Shit to GM, but 2v2 with goblin regardless.
And hes planning(if enough interest ofcus) to move ahead with a monthly 2v2 tournament.
1v1s is allegedly too stale, and I totally agree.
2v2 is were hes going.
But if logic follows(ik, dont take this math too serious)
If 2v2 is better than 1v1, then surely 3v3 is better than 2v2s.. No?
But 1v1s is currently about to be faded out(for a bit at least)
@martinwinther6013 I keep up with the videos. Started the 2v2 video but have to watch it later. I don't think harstems micro is good enough for thermal to play with him. I don't enjoy harstems videos
@@supernova9088 Traditional micro kinda loose relevans in 2v2/3v3s, but thats beside the point.
The aim is obviously fun more than it is winning, to see what shennanigans we can get away with in a different meta, perhaps flip that meta upside down.
Winning is ofcus almost always more fun, but the days of competitive gaming is over for now. -
2v2/3v3 have much more to it than just channeling resources into 1 player, and Harstem is plenty good to hold his own in Weird Shit to GMs in 1v1s.
Harstem is a solid 5k+ MMR all day long and twice on sundays(touching 6k here n there iirc)
Harstem is not all analytics, he is a good player who also gets some good laughs when the odd stuff works, and I think their energy would match, even synergise.
At the end of the day, its not all about skills.
Most viewers of this channel is here for the fun, not for the pure MMR
"Cyril T. Spelcasting, at your service." 🎩
Frickin epic hold against the AI. Nice to see even Marc enjoys the guilty pleasure of hoovering up the map with mass carriers. :)
I wonder if the AI has a trigger that prevents it from attacking until the player has a certain amount or supply of combat units.
Might also just be a side effect of the programming - only attacking when the player reaches a particular threat level or it maxes out.
I can't believe I was late to one of my favorite series! Absolutely enjoy testing out the limits of the AI as it's more of a controlled environment than the shenanigans that happen on the ladder.
Your reactions at 8 minutes are hilarious! LOL It is actually nice to see you struggle against insane AI. Makes me feel less sucky. I think Carriers instead of Tempests might have a better chance because you can send out the interceptors and retreat while they keep attacking? Maybe? Or getting a Mothership to cloak all of your cannons? And now I'm watching game 2... LOL When you end up with 32 probes on one base, is it better to have them mine from far away instead?
Everyone else: „Good“
Marc: „Guuuud 🗣️“
quote of the day:" do not go forward you silly goose carrier"
yes lets go...... merry christmaa buddy
There are few more honorable things than GGing the Ai.
Fantastic upload, enjoyed this! It was odd on the AI that most times your phoenix approached the big army, it seemed to be a trigger for it to attack your base.
If the AI has map hacks, it makes sense they wouldnt attack into a gazillion cannons!
Audience challenge (World Record Attempt) take a shot whenever uThermal on autopilot tries to make workers with just 1 worker and "YOU HAVE NOT ENOUGH MINERALS" is played over and over and over again.
i wish you made more observers. they helped you so much in your observer challenge the other day.
LMFAO at 26:20 Nice shot bossman
on the flip side, the AI was terrified of u
This is 2 probe challenge. Thermal got us again.
I wonder if the computer seemed so passive is because it knew it couldn’t beat the cannons until the army was a certain size
you're amazing, isn't this technically two probes.. :( . saw your note in the second game; gg ! also, they're not attacking because they have map hacks ? Only attack when they feel they can win .. / kill a nexus.. ??
53:43 I think it's possible to resume from replay and take command of the other army. Would it be cool (or possible) to put yourself in a winning scenario and the AI in a bad spot, and then take command of the AI to see if you can make it out?
Nevermind, I tried and I can't
Economically chrono at the start makes such a big difference. You really need to chrono.
S-Tier = Serral-Tier confirmed?
Technically this is a two probe start
This game reminds me of the last protoss mission in WoL.
Omg, the forest of spine crawlers... 😮
Have you thought of this strategy yet: Disruptor-Phoenix. Phoenix pick up enemy, disruptor shoots underneath, Phoenix drops enemy unit right before disruptor ball explodes. Perfection.
The insane amount of micro needed is insanely hard.
Using an extra unit to turn your expensive AoE into single target feels like a bongcloud type of strategy.
*I Started With Just 1 Mining Probe, and 1 Scouting Probe. Can The INSANE A.I. Win?
Would've liked to see the efficiency chart on this one.
This just proves turtle-toss is broken.
To be fair: you start with a probe *and a nexus* ;-) Enjoying your content a lot!
Strictly speaking, you are not supposed to use your 1hp probe to explore the map and enemy right?😁
Protoss A.I has always been weak to mass carrier because it insists on making a potpourri of all units no matter what
Wasn't this a 2 probe scout because you used the one to scout from the original probes?
I love the vs ai challenges.
Basically how I get wrecked by protoss in half of my ladder games. 😅
I build BC or thors to counter that, but to no avail...
Pro tip. Build canons, make carriers🎉😂 sc2 in a nutshell 😅
You've not enough minerals.
Well done.
ok... here me out. 20 stargate challenge
HE DID IT!
Please play the nightmare difficulty custom campaign!
^^^ THIS!
You started with 2 probe :( ......
Jokes aside your a goat man i love your videos !
2v2 tempest + scv cheese coming soon ?
Do you have Serral's photo as avatar to scare the Insane AI? 😂
There’s the next über challenge ! Zero probe to GM!
I'm surprised you're not shift clicking the probes for fast mining at the start. You can get a lot more minerals like that yea?
I don't play protoss or ladder and use the game as a warm up for my hands against bots but did anyone else know you could force field a cannon or did my eyes deceive me around 37:20?
Around 45:30 can you not just make 1 nexus in the middle by the cannons and distant mine from two mineral places?!
at 22:00... with Zerg, could you neural an SCV and repair an ultra or other Z unit?
SCVs can only repair mechanical, P has mech units, Z does not
pretty sure medivac heals tho
I think you could neural a scv to have it repair however all of the Zerg stuff is bio so this wouldn’t work less you had a terrain or protos ally.
Hell yeah
both teams should start with just 1 guy i think
Half map contain. Build a forward base and just defend that while you expand behind
Pog
why no early attack on 1vAI?
Let's go!
So he's so good.... He starts with 1 worker now? Haha
Max carriers kill mass voids easily every time
Ând this is A Reason why i mostly play PvE or Coop. Its just Fun, without whining, Salt, exzessive Cheesing or Insults.
This is a minor facet, and I'm not sure how much difference it makes, but an additional thing you can do to increase the difficulty is to kill all 12 of your starting probes. Right now you start with 50 minerals *and* 1 probe, meaning you sort of start with *two*. But you can go even further beyond.
I want to see a tech snipe win. Mass carrier almost always beats AI and is boring. Do a back door recall or drop and take out all the tech.
Can you take a hidden base against Cheater AI?
Nice.
Ily
Good games
And they say that AI is smart. And Marc beat it starting with one probe against AI that is cheater and hacker.
11? I thought it was 6? Wtf?
But can you beat a diamond player with one probe though
Slap the like button. Cuz why the hell not
nice vid. any hope for some more bar content ?
I've never seen a contaminate on a nexus haha
The AI has map hacks. I think you’re unintentionally manipulating its behavior by massing cannons. “Why won’t the ai attack into my 5 cannons at 3 minutes?”
I think you’re ensuring the AI will try to out-turtle/macro you.
You're such a narcissist, Uthermal. How dare you troll this innocent AI, just trying to play the game!
If you're scouting with one of the starting probes...then technically you're not starting with 1 probe as you typically use a starting probe to scout. If you're going to start with one probe then you need to scout with any probe that is built.
One mining probe
Nah it counts.
@@Sparky31388 Title of the video is "Starting with 1 probe" not "Starting with 1 mining probe". You're starting with 2 if you're using a starting probe to scout. That scouting probe saves time and resources at a crucial time in the game and allows for strategy earlier allowing better build managment vs. having to use a probe the was built. Using a pre-built probe that you start with helps reduce the record time he's trying to break which is an unfair advantage.
Also, if it was "just 1 mining probe" then why did he kill all the other probes instead of using them all to scout? He messed up. He had 1 probe left and nothing there to kill it. So he used it to scout not realizing he needed to kill that one as well and not use it to scout.
@@Treksh I don't agree.
Hey! You cheated. Why are you scouting with a probe that you are not supposed to have. Do it again with a mining probe.
Lol I had the same thought. Not sure it counts as cheating tho because that probe did not mining and the point of the challenge is to be low eco... so it's probably a Grey area
I don't think it really changed anything. If he couldn't use that probe for scouting, then he just wouldn't have scouted at all, and I don't think that any of the information he got from scouting actually changed his build order at all.
I think its fair since he's playing random. Not like an AI would put Z in the chat
He hasn't told his race when playing random, so by his definition knowing the race isn't an advantage
I'm leaking like a faucet
Not be picky but, they're factions, not races.
what are you talking about ?
if you are talking about the starcraft 2 races, they are indeed called races, and not factions
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