I think Aba has this wrong by a mile. This lady who was trolled was scared by the kids. There is no way to know that they are here with good intentions and they already scared her for fun. So now she probably is giving him some of the same medicine. Just like her, she should just laugh because it's a "joke". The security guard was caught in the middle. The kids were up to no good and monetizing their channel by stressing some people out on their day off. And that kid's aggression in his defense is just his cover-up because he was really scared. Good. Fuck those kids.
Yes... someone saying "you cut the line, I always get discriminated against because im too tall for rides" is clearly the same as someone accusing somebody of sexual assault. Obvious trolling = Serious Life Altering Allegations. Next time you crack a bad joke, I hope someone accuses you of being a rap*st... shouldn't be anything wrong since theyre equivalent to you. Those kids may have been dumb but a false acucsation isn't proportional in the slightest.
Volunteered for the police, we got to a scene where a woman accused a man of sexually assaulting her. After listening to their stories and once the woman calmed down a bit, she told us that they're actually in a relationship and that she was just mad at him. It wasn't the first time either. Guys, if something like this happens to you, walk away from the relationship. Don't ruin your life.
In this situation in particular they have 0 consequences because they complained to security who then called the cops. So unless there is a way to tie her to the false report I'm not even sure if she technically broke the law. Even though what she did is a scumbag thing to do and women like that deserve to lose everything in their life.
it's stupid how police will go off one person's assumption instead of doing their jobs and investigating. people have gotten shot because of bullshit like that.
this is why defamation charges need to be pushed. there is and can be something used against these kind of people. Defamation is that thing we can use to stop such false accusations like this.
One of my close friends was falsely accused. It ruined his life and he tried to commit suicide and still takes psychological therapy. Women who lie about sexual assault and rape are pure evil. There ought to be a severe punishment for this.
Yes there definitely needs to be a severe punishment. it should be taking seriously as if was an actual sexual assault. it makes harder for people who actually been sexually assaulted, but until that day comes your still gonna have a lot of entitled people making false allegations.
This is honestly horrific when you think about it. How easy it was to be accused, even with a camera right there. Someone still had the balls to say they were sexually assaulted, security acted quickly on it, and at the end, the people falsely accused gets banned? Do I smell lawsuit in the forseeable future?
I hate this logic some people have of "If you're offended or angry then that must mean your guilty" even though anger is an emotion that humans feel when something unfair is done to them Accusing someone of something they never did and treating them like they did it is gonna cause anger and offence in the accused. What don't people get from this I saw somewhere on some documentary about integration rooms with cops that if a suspect is slowly getting more angry from an accusation that it's a sign they may be innocent as normally the guilty one tends to act calm and collected. Guilty people think being angry and offended will make them look guilty, actual innocent people are bound to get angry and offended because they know they are innocent and are being accused of something they never did. Like this video. We know the man didn't what he was accused of and he was getting more angry everytime the accusation was brought up. I hate people who honestly say "If you're innocent then you wouldn't take it personally"
Yeah the people running that park should ban her as well. At the very least be consistent. Not saying that makes up for intentionally falsely accusing some but the park shouldn't allow someone who does this to be around other patrons that's asking for trouble.
To be fair, we don’t know if nothing else happened. Maybe the cop went over to talk to her. Write her up for false accusations. All we have is this dude’s video
@@milton7763 bro, nothing happened. Point is there needs to be consequences for these type of things and the accusers were able to still go on about their day even if they were “spoken to”. Thats not the case for the ones who were accused. Its not rocket science
Even if they don’t get jail time for being falsely accused this is gaslighting to the extreme, it quite literally mentally ruins mens grasp on reality and shit like this mentally and can physically hurt men as well just from studies that show how shit like rejection or straight up gaslighting can be physically painful to deal woth
Yeah sound cool and all but imagine the flip side you get some shit done to you you go and report it but don't have bulletproof evidence... So now your ass is going to fail for "falsely accusing" Both senarios sound fucked I feel like people need to take accusations for what they are accusations. And in obvious cases you should be punished
It happens more than you think, and it does ruin lives... Not even a slap on the wrist for the person falsely accusing him. People don't even want to go by you or touch you with a 10ft pole...
I remember being expelled from middle school in 2003 (8th grade) for being accused of sexually assaulting two girls in my advanced art class. They both came forward & confessed to lying about it 3 days later & they suffered NO consequence. I had no idea this was a thing that people do until recently & it's really disturbing.
@@chapacoka When I went back, I had to talk to the principal with them in the office. They gave me the dryest apology I've ever heard in my life. After that, the principal asked me if I knew what would make them want to accuse me of doing that. I didn't have an answer for him back then & I still don't have an answer to that weird question.
@@thelonercoder5816 I'm sorry that happened to you. The world is so full of liars who push false narratives of truth that it's hard for people to express or believe what's rightfully true. I hope someone listens to you & believes you. I do.
@@sebbyh9764you didn't notice that despite all the evidence on camera that the guys did nothing, the only people who had any penalties was the guys. Yeah "nothing to worry about"
@@darklyripley6138yeah but that doesn't apply to the internet. They'll dox you, email your job, family, etc. And if you're a content creator, say bye bye to your livelihood
I’ll keep saying it until it becomes a thing. WE NEED AN “ACCUSER REGISTRATION” LIKE THE SEX OFFENDERS LIST. These things need to be recorded somehow as to prevent repeat offenders. Everyone can see it
I like the spunk but I think that’s a horrible idea. Predators could target the people on that list so no one listens even if a true situation occurs. Bad idea I personally think.
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I worked at an animal clinic and was restraining a client's dog. The dog was out of control, terrified, and the owner was trying to help keep him calm. He accidentally touched my hand and was apologizing. I didn't see it as a problem since both my hands were holding the dog, so I thought it was weird that he was apologizing over and over. I said "It's fine, no need to apologize..". Then he told me he was falsely accused of sexual harassment. I honestly believe him because of how scared he looked for accidentally touching my hand :(( And when he told the entire story I felt really bad and was upset along with him. Falsely accusing someone can literally ruin lives depending on how far it goes.
Thank goodness they were recording. Even tho I don’t condone “trolling,” what they accused them of was insane and I would sue as well. That’s not a topic to play with
@@DigitalRecursor alright buzz killington lets all go out and act like npcs in every public setting or else we may deserve a sexual assault case or worse coming our way
@@Redxminder or maybe don’t come up to random ppl and expect them to play along or be in the mood for your nonsense cuz there worse that can come ur way than a false rape allegation ie death.
There needs to be some kind of punishment for making a provably false claim like this. It's wild that people can just get mad and try to ruin your life, and the worst thing that will happen is it doesn't work.
@Jessie what punishments? Amber Heard has a massive following? Proved in court she was lying. Multiple photos of her the next day looking fine after she said depp beat her. Words have become 'so powerful' that people are now feeling emboldend to use them against others. Classics are : racist, n*zi, transphobe, white suprem, misoganyst.
@Jessie all that would’ve happened at most is her getting a stern talking to about not doing that. There’s no law anywhere that says false accusations get punished by law. You’re thinking defamation claims. Those aren’t the same. If I say you’re a murderer on my YT channel, you can file defamation. If I say you assaulted me but neither of us has evidence and you say you didn’t do it, then the case just ends. If you do have footage, they just say “you’re free to go” and ask that both parties stop having troubles with each other. Even if the accusation was blatantly a lie. If a woman accuses you of grape but you have footage and all you did was wave at her, nothing happens to her. She just leaves and is some what embarrassed.
@@rapidroadsode8789 exactly. all you're going to get is "but if we punish false allegations actual victims won't come forward". which is utter horse shit. victims won't come forward because of the actions of the liars. but if you stop the lying, a lot of people would lose power they didn't earn.
But they did know the laws and did have video footage. So, this whole drama was just the kids overreacting to the women overreacting. Why did I waste my time watching this crap? This is the true horror of my life.
I just bailed out after 5 months in jail because my ex accused me of an aggravated assault. This kinda crap happens everyday and it’s messed up. My whole life has been flipped on it’s head because of it.
@@zay2241 a prosecutor always has to present something. You don’t receive an actual sentence with zero evidence. It’s very possible that what actually happened wasn’t as bad as the case might make it sound, might have just been self defense, but the likelihood of him going to jail for actually doing nothing is very small
Time to enforce “filing a false police report”. Throw the book at her. This is terrifying. Could easily have gone another way. Patrice ONeal was falsely imprisoned under a similar scenario, spoke at length about how terrible it is to be falsely accused and how false accusations need to be punished.
It's already a thing on multiple levels. Whoever called in the false report can be charged with various offenses. Same as calling in prank calls to emergency services.
For anyone wondering. Yes, "False report to a Peace Officer" is an actual crime. It is in TX and I'm sure other states have a smiliar law. Only issues are is a conviction usually require a written statement with a perjury clause be signed. Furthermore, it is only a class B misdemeanor.
They would also have to make a report to a cop, not a security guard. We need to hold these women accountable and the filing a false report is not enough it needs to be a felony.
Some folks would say "well if they're innocent, then they just need to go with the security and verify that the women identified the wrong guys." To that I say no. She could easily lie and say that's them and boom arrested in a he says-she says case where you have to prove your innocence instead of them proving your guilt. Even with the camera, she could say it happened out of sight from the camera, get a false witness, and they're screwed. They did the right thing to leave the location and speak with the cops before the woman had the chance use crocodile tears on them.
True I would also like to point out that a lot of these places have security cameras and those guys never mentioned that they checked them. If they aren't bothering to do that or can't I don't think you should go anywhere private with that kind of person.
Because she knows she'll be long gone before park security ever gets their hands on the video, and even if she isnt gone, she knows the park wont do anything to her. so she causes problems for the guys with no consequence to herself. Win win in her mind.
@@munky342 You aren't wrong. 5 years from now they'll still be getting asked about that time they were accused of SA at "that one park." The details often get muddled with time , but not the alleged crime.
@@JustinDavis90 that's why I firmly, and I think rightly, believe that false accusations of any kind should carry the exact same penalty as the alleged crime. Even down to registering as an offender in the case of SA. Maybe just a different register. Would love to see people have to introduce themselves to all their neighbours as someone who falsely accuses others of SA.
Or the same amount of time as some who commits sexual assault. Just the accusation ruins the mans life and when the truth comes out and the man is vindicated a fraction of the people who heard about the accusation hear it was lie.
@@NL-fg6it, woo there. She's a woman. You're being harsh: 5 hours of community service, and she gets to lecture us about oppression of green-haired people while doing so.
Women are the most privileged individuals at least in the USA and they are treated better than kids they don’t even have any problems, they won’t to act like they have it hard while being protected heavy by the government so miss me with that pay gape and that other bullshit they bitch about
I worked with a guy who spent 45k on defending him self over a rape accusation and found not guilty cause her friend called her out. To put that into perspective 45 k is one year of his wages spent and nothing happened to her the matriarchy
There is, women are just exempt from it in cases like this... Courts and law enforcement are 100% bias depending on what the person had between their legs when they were born.
I have arrested someone for falsely reporting an incident here in NYC. Mostly though, it becomes a civil matter. These guys can and should be sue the Faire and the women.
@@LuxInvicta and the worst part isn’t just the immediate harm to the falsely accused it’s the fact that it’s because of people like this that we end up having to scrutinize real victims so hard. this shit has long-term consequences for everyone especially real VICTIMS it’s utterly disgusting
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I get sick of women abusing this narrative to work in their favor cause they don’t know how to control their emotions. They really need to allow the falsely accused to in turn press charges in these situations. It sickens me especially when victims of SA have a hard enough time being vocal about their situation from fear of backlash and other reasons. To sit here and play on such a serious accusation cause your upset really needs to be a crime.
Girls use this as a social bludgeon, a club to smash men and boys and ruin their lives. My nephew just turned 17 and he has already been accused twice and has had to deal with the social repercussions and the hate from parents that come with that. Crazy jealous women are the most dangerous creature on the planet. One of the girls actually thought that afterward she could be his girlfriend.
Yup in this scenario, there are two groups of victims: those who are falsely accused and the victims of ACTUAL SA Everytime one person spreads falsehoods , the true victims suffer
@@joshuasterling2144 oh that’s so horrible I’m so sorry he’s experiencing that at such a young age. They are and it’s scary knowing there are so many narcissistic crazy ass women out here who have no concern for the trauma and damage they cause. That girl was definitely delusional. It’s no way she really thought that man would want to pursue anything with her afterwards. Smh
Troll got trolled. He falsely accused her of line cutting. He thought it was big fun until the shoe was on the other foot. Then he's offended; boys the bitch.
They should make any false accusation a felony with one year minimum imprisonment if found guilty if the amount of time a guy serve and found innocent should be added to her. They should make it a pass , if they admit Lying within 48hrs with a day in jail . This is such a bad thing that they get a pass , it’s happened to me and friends of mine. It’s not ok . Unfortunately unless all of us men get together and make a crazy rally around the country for it nothing will ever happen.
How would someone enforce that? What constitutes as proof? What if there is no proof one way or the other? The logistics going into something like that would be difficult, the closest thing you have is defamation.
Won't ever happen unless you get millions of women to push for that to become law. And they won't because it takes away a weapon they can use against men.
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Was he being an arsehole to these women? Sure - he was trolling. Did he assault anyone - no. It was all on camera. Should he stay around to stand up to an unsubstantiated assault claim? No - he stands to gain nothing. In a just world, he could stay and roll with the "innocent until proven guilty" point. BUT, false accusations happen (it happened here) and it can ruin somebody. Props to the police officer - he's very level headed and just enquires.
@@beelzzebub don’t expect these commenters to have a decent reading comprehension level, some can’t seem to tell the difference between misogyny and masculinity.
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As someone who worked security, what you gotta do when someone comes to you telling you they have been victim of a crime, you tell them to call the cops... THEY have to report it, they have to do the talk, you simply stay there to make sure she is safe. And if she asks you to do something for them that you don't have to do, you are very welcome to say "no, that's not necessary".
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I work security and what Preach is saying is facts. I know coworkers who will blow sh*t out of proportion and make things so much worse. I’m not putting in all that energy and paper work unless there’s verifiable proof. I hate people that go on these damn power trips as if they were beat up as kids and now have a badge to go wild. They just said it’s recorded so all that hostility is unnecessary.
I don't know if it's wise but considering in that situation as they had evidence of their innocence and the whole interaction on video, but if it were me, I would have liked to challenge the women...and "security". I would very much like to know who almost got me arrested for a false crime claim.
I literally lost my job at a spa for being accused of sexual harassment, that became sexual mischievous, then I was told I made clients and other therapist uncomfortable with my draping. I did the same draping as every other therapist and even more conservative with my draping than the female therapist. If someone doesn't like you they will say anything to get you gone
@@Punty050 fair. Its a term for tucking and or folding a sheet as to not expose areas not being worked on for both modesty purposes as well as insulation to help keep the body warm. Mainly the modesty part
@@timmahh_jimmahh Appreciation and peace, thank you. Shame about the job, only good wishes for the future. You will do better and get better in the future after you resolve the accusation and job loss mentally and emotionally.
Most women have a measure of hatred towards men. It's sad that no one is calling it out for what it is. You were "different", and therefore you where considered the evil one.
Lmfao this actually urks me and I usually side w w women, but literally going to spas, getting undressed, they're literally they're to massage/spoil/touch you. Seems like some women of those Women just haven't been touched in years, what Karen's. Lmfao. I'm sorry but I wish I could afford the luxury of a spa, let alone a nice RESPECTFUL spa dude to massage me , because men give WAY better messages with their big strong hands. I'm sorry bruh!!! Don't let it get to u ☺️
I use to work security for a hotel in Vegas. When we would get reports of things like this or just in general we would have to make contact with the other party and get their side of the story. If there was a crime “committed” and one of the parties requested police we would have to hold all and call them so the police could launch an investigation and resolve it. The security office approached it wrong and escalated it off bat.
My understanding is you try to talk with them until police get there, but you cant hold them. This security guy was intentionally stalling for the cops to be there, and seemed a little shady, but he never physically stopped them from leaving. Thats where I see security get in legitimate trouble, when they essentially illegally detain someone without authority and wont let them leave
I was a massage therapist at a high end spa for making 60 to 70k a year. I lost everything due to false allegations. NO proof, no witnesses, no evidence whatsoever. No investigation was done. Two felony Charges were brought against me based off a verbal statement. I was bullied into taking a plea deal after 6 months in jail to avoid conviction by a jury that "aren't going to believe me" Now I have two misdemeanors on my record, lost my license, 40k in attorney Fees and bills due to lack of employment and served 1 year.
what was the verbal statement if you don't mind me asking? perhaps you can help some one else avoid this happening to them? also what kind of safe guards can someone use to protect themselves? can you ask to have audio recordings of each session for your protection?? or are you pretty much screwed?
@@itsjustavi audio and video are against HIPPA regulations. In the State of Virginia, all that is needed to charge someone with a sex crime is a verbal statement. No DNA, no witnesses, no physical evidence, no investigation. The claimant also is NOT required to testify in court or show up to any court hearings for that matter. The city did ZERO investigation because they don't have too. The claimant refused DNA test, refused Victims advocate, refused to testify in court, refused to press charges, refused to talk to the criminal defense investor that was hired by my attorney. It's plain and simple. There's no way in the state of Virginia to protect yourself from false allegations.
@@itsjustavi @TALBIT Not a bad idea, but it's a little too late now. Any decent massage place in any state would do a background check, and now he has a record. He probably wasn't aware how bad a false accusation could be, before it happened. I can understand no video, but honestly, I think there should at least be audio in the rooms. And I am appalled that there was no investigation on something that ruined a man's life. It's pretty much guilty, no matter what you say, if what he says is true. I would like to think this would be grounds for a lawsuit against the state, if for nothing else, but to change the rules, so any future accused person can have their day in court.
@@talbit I'm late to seeing this. How horrible! I am so sorry. For others moving forward. I'd still record audio in spite of HIPPA. A lot of times, corporate policy doesn't match/reflect the actual job. If you work at a gas station, keep a gun on you. I wouldn't say "oh, but policy says I'm not allowed. So I'll risk being robbed at gunpoint or shot". Because odds are if you really get in the mix and need it, you'll be glad you had it and keep your life and sanity vs losing a job or everything and facing jail time.
That girl needs to be identified and called out. We know she's done this before and will do it again. She felt offended and accused these kids of sexual assault. That's insane!
She seemed super defensive and we have no idea what she has going on in her head or if she was possibly being asked leading questions. There doesn’t always have to be a villain y’all.
@@burtreynolds8030 your right SA is a giant leap from him just trolling. The security guard was also trying to get him to say something incriminating. A lot of Security guards are power tripping A-holes, I’ve seen it firsthand.
This is sad and scary. What’s worse is those women are mothers. I have a feeling they were called out and lied to the security guard, who did a crap job at handling the situation. The children who were with those women are more than likely soaking up what they witnessed and processing false accusations in their mind as “okay”.
10 years later: I don't understand why my child is a scoundrel. I raised him right, yet he steals and lies every single day! It's like those parents that constantly say bad words at home, and then get angry when their kids start doing the same in public.
“who did a crap job at handling the situation” the police/security guard/authorities aren’t there and they are basing their behavior to what was reported because there is literally no way to know that she’s lying and same goes if the accused said they didn’t do it, the point is it is “reported” therefore the people involved must first be detained to interrogate and not let them escape possible criminal charges, they look for the evidences like security camera footage, witness reports, even physical examination sometimes if it involves violence like it or not if you think it’s not right to be detained and forced to follow their orders keep in mind there are actual cases(and they are the majority of cases) that isn’t fake like in this video and if the procedure/law happens to fit what YOU, the youtuber in this video and Preaches wants then there are actual victims that wouldn’t get justice and actual criminals not getting what they deserve you clearly know nothing of what is commonly a common sense procedure, you, the youtuber in this video and Preach video are punching in the air here for nonsensical reason another thing, they are in a private property so obviously it’s not the actual cops job to police what’s happening there, but as a business that deals with masses of people they employ securities which may not be cops but they are the cops by proxy just not in a public property, they have protocols just like cops they aren’t just civilians that just so happen to have a job to play pretend being a cop they also have legal authority as a proxy public sevant
I wonder how they'd like it if one of *their* kids was accused of something like that, probably not at all. It's like when those toxic feminist types forget they have male relatives, treating other men terribly with no self awareness. But I wasn't planning to have my faith in humanity restored today anyway, so there's no loss there!
dude you really don't get it do you. get this bullshit outta here. violence is VIOLENCE. words aren't. you are just as stupid as the other crowd saying this dumb shit. that said, the bitch should be put in jail instead yes. but it is not violence. moron.
I was falsely accused, and that lady still walks around like it didn’t even happen. Her boyfriend harassed me for 2 years and she dumped him after he found out it was false.. Still disappointed till this day
Also had a girl that would always try to get me to drink with her so she could grope me, I'd ask her to stop and everything and she'd still grab my genitals and rub on me and shit, people that were around me would just laugh while it was happening.
As a women who HAS been SAd... these women piss me off. Not only does this hurt the falsely accused men but also real victims of SA. I think every woman who does this should go to jail. It makes me wonder what these women would do if truly assaulted. Unless it's violent most women won't immediately come forward. It's a trauma that they have to process. The embarrassment and humiliation that can happen if they aren't taken seriously or believed is there as well. And these damn women make it even worse for SA victims.
I believe the same thing, I’m sorry to here that you were SAd. I have thankfully been not SAd but I have been harassed sometimes. I am a woman who believes that if a woman can accuse a man of that stuff she gets to live out the sentence that man was going to live out. It just sucks that this stuff happens today in this day and age. This is also why I don’t really trust my own gender when it comes to stuff like this.
Honestly I’ve been on the receiving end of this garbage before. Except it was me getting accused of being homophobic after some older lady started harassing me and I told her she was making me uncomfortable. Then she blew it out of proportion and said I was treating her bad because she was a lesbian. But I was the one that was ostracized and yelled at by everyone around us at the time. It’s crazy how people won’t even try to get the full story and will just jump on the band wagon and take the “victims” side. The thing I was on the receiving end of was minor, I can’t imagine how these poor men feel when crazy bi*ches get away with this with no consequences. They should be charged the same time the real victims would have to serve.
Most of the time its just old busy bodies or white knighting security guards. These amusement parks have all kinds of bullshit policies and run things like their own private Fiefdom. Its gotten worse what with surveillance technology. That woman wearing all the camouflage facepaint certainly knows her way around the security system there.
The cop needs to articulate why they're being detained he can't just say "we're called to investigate" that's not how this works and refusing I.d is not grounds for jail. The cop needs serious retraining or firing
Being under reasonable suspicion they committed a crime meaning they have to ID. Even though it’s a bad report the cops didn’t know that, therefore they would have to ID and could be placed under arrest if they refuse. Just look it up next time
I worked security for about 3 years. The slimiest thing I’ve seen is when one of my co-workers was writing a citation to a DoorDash driver that was parked in red. The driver was like “oh mb” and tried to drive off before he got the citation. My co-worker who was standing behind the car kicked the back of it, made a dent and chipped some paint then tried to say he got hit.
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Disagree. There are 2 actions here. 1. The false accusations was intentional and should get reported. 2. It is well know people's memories are unreliable as well as people get heated over nothings. You would get a society like Japan which just avoids these issues rather than a society that speaks up cause any support to a liar would be criminal.
The security guard also wanted to get both sides, that's why he was taken them in for questioning. If you were the security guard and heard that these people potentially sexually harrased someone, you wouldnt let them leave scott free
@@zee-anime If a crime happens you call a cop, I have worked security and if you do the job to the letter you are glorified surveillance cameras (at least in my country) you pretty much only get directly involved when there is immediate risk of physical harm to someone or someone refusing to leave somewhere they aren't supposed to be (private property, intoxicated people at bars etc.) you don't get carte blanche to make up your own rules and trust me security lie all the time to get their way BECAUSE they have no authority in most situations, so unless you see a crime happen your best move is to tell anyone who comes to you to write down a description and file a police report, other than that you want to act a cop go and actually become one otherwise stay in your lane
they believed the accuser didnt even ask to watch the footage or verified it like automatically if they are guilty "if your innocent"!?!? soo persumptious we should protest the park or something
It's almost impossible to get police or a DA to criminally charge someone with making a false accusation, but with evidence (like a video) you would have a very good chance of winning if you sued civilly for defamation. The problem would be finding an attorney or firm interested in taking the case.
If it hasn’t cost you any loss of income etc there’s nothing to sue for. They haven’t lost anything, nor did they need therapy afterwards, or anything that would show damage needing to be compensated for.
They should introduce a law that where if someone is proven to be falsely accusing someone, they should get the punishment that the falsely accused person could of got.
@@idonargesy8197 its "hard to punish them" because unless they file a false police report they haven broken any laws and a false police report is a slap on the wrist IF the police even bother to do the extra work to charge you for it (most won't because most das don't want to go to trial over something so minor) Needs to be a FELONY to falsely accuse someone of sexual assault. Then maybe some das would prosecute these bitches
I was at the mall this past weekend with a female friend of mine, and and we horse play a little, sure, but we're like that. We're there for like 2 hours while she does some shopping, and a security guard randomly comes up to me while i'm alone saying "we have reports of you assaulting a woman" ...i'm like excuse me? as my friend walks out of the store to meet back up with me. "you mean her?" people really do just accuse people of things all the time
Being trespassed? Sue them and take it to court. They were trying to leave then they were detained. They were voluntarily leaving so they should not have been trespassed.
The sad part is how normal all this shit is. A lotta innocent men are in jail or in prison due to a girl being mad for 2 minutes over something that honestly was harmless. It makes it hard for people to believe REAL victims of rape, sexual assaults, kidnappings, various forms of abuse, ect. Every man needs to know the law in order to protect themselves from situations like this.
@@dixbowman3452 no he’s dead because of racism Till didn’t even speak to the woman per the woman’s confession 50 years later. What happened to Till was a sexual assault and murder.
I don't find what these guys do to be particularly clever or funny. It's annoying, but they definitely did not deserve false and potentially life ruining accusations.
The security guard had limited authority to detain them, but if there was a crime committed, he does have an obligation to detain them enough for authorities to arrive. There wasn't a crime committed, but how does that guy know there wasn't a crime committed? I think people are just taking issue with authority in general.
I think it's possible there really could have been miscommunication. She could have said, "there are these guys with a camera going around and harassing people, they harassed me." And the security guard could have made the assumption that by harassment, she meant sexual. There's a reason things get garbled when you play telephone. She also could have straight up made a false allegation. Guess we'll never know for sure.
@@kellyriddell5014 well their faces are all over the internet at this point (the original video has million of views) so they could come out and say there was a miscommunication, if that's what happened
@@kellyriddell5014 nah, I'm not giving any woman the benefit of the doubt. Because what we're currently doing in this Society is the opposite, we're giving all women credibility in spite of whatever their character is, and in spite of how intelligent or stupid they are. I'm pointing out intelligence because a lot of women are too stupid to navigate conversations that have any degree of pressure, or where they're taking criticism, or where there might be conflict. Rather than having those conversations in a civil way, their response is to claim that they're being victimized. Oh and then there are just women that are terrible people. So I'm not giving this woman the benefit of the doubt, when our whole society is already giving women credibility by default.
We've seen countless videos of dudes getting arrested, beaten up, even killed because of a woman lying. On the flip side, even when you tell the truth as a guy, people don't believe you or don't care. Maybe..just Maybe she'll have a son who goes through the same thing, and maybe she'll know what what it feels like.
@@FrostTheRedeemed I personally love these little increments we're making, because eventually, all this will add up to "girl who cried wolf" situation. Nobody will believe it anymore, just like in the olden days. Same goes for words like racist, the -phobic & -ists labels. We're almost full circle.
Never joke around or be within half a mile of a woman with blue hair Also, never talk to the police on any allegation. If you're not free to go, ask for a lawyer, even if you haven't done anything wrong. Just say lawyer and shut up
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@@savapavlovic5319 I'm no language expert but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that neither you, I, nor the people in this video have even been to Serbia
@@zantiquechm3960 then shut up until they either let you go or arrest you in which case they have to provide you a lawyer. In most instances, you can't talk yourself out of getting arrested, but you can talk yourself into getting arrested.
I was LITERALLY just having this argument a couple days ago with some moron that thinks innocent people never get accused of shit they didn't do and that simply being respectful means you don't ever have to worry about getting caught up in bullshit. Thanks for another piece of evidence for me to throw on the mountain of proof I already had that proves what a stupidly dangerous concept that is
People actually believe innocents don't get accused?? That's the whole point of the justice system to determine if your innocent or not than punish the criminals...I'm so confused.
Must be quite blissful living in such ignorance of real world problems. I worry with such ignorance they’ll make a mistake and be on the receiving end eventually though if they’re so careless
If false accusations were prosecuted, than these women would think twice before slandering men! This is the problem; there are virtually zero consequences for completely lying about serious crimes. Give some jail time and this wouldn't be so common! I understand their anger, but they should have just submitted with the police immediately, because they are the ones who will vindicate them.
Correct! However, the system needs false accusations for it to continue churning money! Look up Duke Lacrosse! It's about greed, power, corruption, and notoriety! The entire judicial system needs to be completely overhauled. And that starts by having a new constitutional convention! And don't think politicians want that. So we are stuck with this pathetic system in place we have now.
@@StoicBehavioR That's idiotic. While I will admit, fasle allegations are a small percentage of reported rapes; there are still way too many. Thats such stupid reasoning! One has nothing to do with the other. Thanks for the insight!
@@nisuperman Yeah, have you ever sued anyone? Sure! Maybe in an ideal world a citizen would sue another and gain a large settlement, but this is the real world..not Hollywood. So, the person who was falsely accused should pay for a lawyer, go to a tedious court trial, and then wait for a settlement they will never see? They should be prosecuted.
@@sheerbeauty i get that, but regardless of the trolling, he didn't assault either of them, he just spoke to them in a trolling way. Its terrible that men can just be falsely accused because a woman doesn't like their behavior. And this doesn't just hurt men either, it makes the actual victims need to be questioned and doubted for the safety of everyone.
@@sheerbeauty so what? You just accuse someone of SA? While it isn't true and will ruin someone's life regardless of prosecution or not, your name will be tarnished. You're also making actual victims of SA less trustworthy.
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Not gonna lie, you guys are like the big brothers of the internet, funny as hell. Wise because of the experiences you've had. And judgmental for when people do stupid shit but willing to give advice to fix it
There really needs to be a law that punishes people for making false accusations against people. This sh*t is happening a LOT nowadays. People need to have repercussions for trying to ruin someone's life like this. Sexual assault? Are you kidding me?
It depends on how far it's taken. It's against the law to file a false police report and make false statements to law enforcement but not to a security guard. I don't think it's against the law to merely say it but a person could take civil action i suppose. It varies wildly from location to location.
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Yup. I rejected a crazy bitch coworker that wanted to fuck after work. She started saying to management I was asking her inappropriate questions. All the questions that they accused me of saying were said to me by her. If I wasn't the beloved golden boy of that store I would be probably fucked.
I’ve been accused of stealing despite being a regular. I was embarrassed and confused because it was front of a group of people. As a kid I called the police they investigated and said there’s been another group of kids that been stealing and so the employee kicked you out for that. I came back a later time and he apologized. It’s too bad the store closed months later.
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Guy didn't actually do anything wrong. He heard a complaint and went to investigate. His duty is to the property owners' best interest. But he didn't stop them, touch them, or even barrate them. Honestly with how the guys were acting, I would have expected the security guard manhandled them
@Tony G It's hard because sexual assault accusation is not easy to deal with. Since you may loose your chance to deal justice if you let the accused leave before could check the evidence. To be honest I don't know why they didn't just show their footage , if even after that the security guy still try to pressure them to stay...then the security guy would not be doing the right thing.
I got accused of shoplifting in a drug store and the employees made a big scene about it, drawing a crowd of customers. At that point I went above and beyond to prove I didn’t steal shit because I knew it would make them look like complete assholes. Dumped my purse out, took off my jacket, turned my pockets inside out, even volunteered to take my shirt and pants off in front of everyone. “That’s not necessarily” is how they replied. I told them an apology is what is necessary, since I had obviously not taken a thing and had just spent like $75 right before this all happened. I still don’t know who claims to have seen me take anything, and I understand them wanting to mitigate any theft, but there’s a right and wrong way to go about it.
As a security guard, Dan was doing way too much. All he had to do was walk up and ask what was going on and if they were causing trouble, ask them to leave the property, if they refuse, then you call the cops. Secuirty isn't police and they should keep that in mind.
Bruh you cant just let them walk after a sexual assault accusation not saying they did it but he would have been fired if that got to his boss. you cant blaim him blaim the women
@@battousaithekingslayer9913 what do you mean "just walk" exactly? If you're saying it's expected for a security guard to act like the police and he'll get in trouble if he doesn't you clearly have *zero* idea what you're talking about. Trying to detain based on an *accusation* alone when ur not a cop is a *very* easy way to get sued, there isn't a security guard company in country that would encourage what this guy did. The steps listed in OPs comments is exactly what is expected they're not there to play cop or detective.
@@jakehero95 Did you see him trying to detain anybody? Didn’t lay his fingers on him once. He did a great job. If it would have turned out that someone had been sexually assaulted and he had simply escorted the perpetrator off the premise the whole world would have yelled bloody murder
@@milton7763 I see how it could be taken that way but I wasn't trying to say he did, those were two separate statements I prob should've put a period between. Nah fam he showed behavior indicative of someone itching to overstep that's just asking for a lawsuit. I've worked security and had several friends that did every single place will tell you exactly what OP said above. You can talk about the gift of hindsight all you want but fact of the matter is neither you nor that security guard are the police, let them do their job. Yet again the steps listed above are what should've been done, which don't say just let them walk around y'all seem to keep ignoring the police involvement part. Y'all also seem to keep forgetting this was nothing but accusations with literally no proof whatsoever behind them, there was zero attempt to get their side of the story man's saw the camera and literally just used it to reinforce his bias that they did do something and filmed it. No this was a masterclass in a security guard trying to play detective, failing miserably, and putting the business close to or at risk of being sued. Don't be like this guy he just made everything worse, they might've even cooperated if he went about it the right way.
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The way the "Director of Security" handled that situation very poorly. If there was a victim, then the victim should've called the police. All security should've done was observe and report. The moment you jump the gun, you become liable over a lie.
The director of security should have been holding the alleged victim at the security office for her personal safety. Can't protect her from SA if the location of her person is not well known.
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I think the whole situation is absolutely insulting to accuse someone of such a “crime”. Also if the head of security was the older gentleman why wasn’t he out there with the police trying to handle this situation being that he is head of security. Instead he sends his 18 yr old minion out there to deal with the police during this serious situation. I smell a lawsuit heading their way. Also there are many security cameras around so they can easily see if there was an “ assault” smh.
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I love “you denied you were there”. They never said that just said they didn’t assault anyone, it’s amazing how an op will try to put words in your mouth that you never said.
Which is exactly why you don’t say shit to begin with. Every word you speak is like a puzzle piece you are giving them. And they will use those pieces to paint what ever picture they want.
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@@elcj9705 whut the he’ll you talking bout? You really think they sexually assaulted someone and edited it out? You must be a full time 9-5 clown. Ain’t no worship going on just calling out a bozo security guard for being a bozo. Now I’m starting to think your the guard from the vid🤔…
She should 100% go to jail for lying like that !! Thats really fucked up this is the shit men have to deal with and what real women who are assaulted and people dont believe them bc of this shit!!! Also that guy is just doing his job he was told someone was sexually assaulted so all he was doing was inquiring about it which is his job!! Imagine if your daughter was touched by someone and the security guard didn't give a shit and didn't even go up to them and ask questions!!
It seems like, if nothing else, he lied to them about where they were going and was trying to steer them over to a different place versus the exits. That alone is extremely iffy and unsettling. Especially knowing how some of these people are. Getting led off to who-knows-where and kept on the property when I'm trying to LEAVE? That's disturbing, honestly. Edit: Oh, and I want to add…I don't know whether they saw the video of the alleged incident or what, but it seemed like the matter was ultimately dropped without real investigation anyways and the park was already trying to placate them. So it doesn't seem like they were truly serious about investigating the alleged crime, either?
@@AhsokaJackson I think they did look at the video but in order for them to look at the camera they couldn't record, I guess they didn't think to record them looking at the footage on their phone or something, and I think the security was within his right to derail a suspected sexual preditor, who lied about never being at the scene of the crime and was trying to flee the property instead of cooperating so they could further investigate. if my daughter was assaulted and the suspect was asking for the exit to flee, I wouldn't tell them either, I don't think any of us would tbh... again the man was just do his job to the best of his ability...
There needs to be a law about false accusations. Its the only way to help stop this. Its not up to you to prove your innocence, is up to them to prove your guilt.
There is a law in every state. Sometimes it falls under "false reports" which is a general law that says you cannot report a crime to a law enforcement officer knowing the crime did not happen. The problem is that it is hard to prove majority of the time as it boils to down to "he said, she said."
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They were probably at the security office. I remember a guy punching a random kid at a park once and security grabbed me and my friends so the victim could clear us. Personally I’ve always wondered why don’t false accusers get punished. My guess is it’s probably pretty difficult to show that the accuser purposely lied so accusing them and taking legal action is a big ask without undeniable proof. There’s numerous cases of R victims pointing out innocent guys only for them to be proven innocent later. The victim can always say they were in such a state that they were mistaken. There’s not a lot of prosecutors jumping at the chance to go after said victim.
Let me say that I am so glad for cameras nowadays because imagine back in the day when there was no cameras how many people were sent to jail for false accusations! 🤦♀️
Its crazy bc people really don’t know how to admit they’re wrong… that security guard knew that was complete bullshit and his arrogance lead him to bother them all the way to the exit. Arrogance and boredom are deadly combinations.
i can guarantee if the three of them were in a secluded area dan and the other guards would of mained or killed them his rage over a accusation and hide the evidence...we know this happens to men and has for decades in america...its fucked up men need to literally keep all their texts, emails, and video tape encounters just to prove their innocence...
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You mean just like that youtube guy told the police they "talked to someone at the ride"? What happened was that they went to purposefully annoy strangers and film it, those strangers decided to get back at them by a false accusation. And then everyone was power tripping and excalating the situation.
Hard to tell 100% and after rewatching he didn't accuse them of anything. Rather it was suspicion but not a confirmation. And it's not arrogance, their job is security which is to ensure safety.
The cops should’ve reviewed the footage to conclude the accusation was false. Then they should’ve gone to the accusers and ask them if they’d like to file charges for the accusation. Then arrest the accusers for filing a false police report. Case closed.
technically the security company were the ones to contact the police, there was no police report filed by the accuser, but being banned from the park would impute criminality to the accused as well as be defamatory imo...I would sue the company for endangering my reputation and acting too hastily without investigating properly first.
@@Novem2244 No cuz entrapment is goading someone into knowingly committing a crime so you can arrest them. If a cop walked up and asked someone "are you selling heroin?" And the guy said yes and was arrested when they found heroin on them, that's not entrapment. If a cop walked up and said "hey I got heroin in my car you should buy it from me and flip it for cash" and then arrested the guy when they did all that, that's entrapment.
Sadly, this is not the first-time security has been crap. Anime Expo had horrible security. Someone got something from a content creator for free and the guard not only accused the customer of stealing but also hurt the customer and damaged the item among other horror stories.
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It’s generally not the best job. Often doesn’t pay great and you’re likely to constantly get shit on. You also have almost zero authority to do your job, which often ends up just being there to witness something and Inform police
Women are treated with kid gloves when it comes to false accusations. You'll be lucky, no bullshit, not an exaggeration, lucky if a judge treats her false accusations as hostile. The prosecutors definitely won't and their lawyers will use anything they can to drum up a story. In almost any scenario, you'll be seen as responsible for not making sure she felt safe enough to not make her want to falsely accuse you.
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I think Aba has this wrong by a mile. This lady who was trolled was scared by the kids. There is no way to know that they are here with good intentions and they already scared her for fun. So now she probably is giving him some of the same medicine. Just like her, she should just laugh because it's a "joke". The security guard was caught in the middle. The kids were up to no good and monetizing their channel by stressing some people out on their day off. And that kid's aggression in his defense is just his cover-up because he was really scared. Good. Fuck those kids.
Yes... someone saying "you cut the line, I always get discriminated against because im too tall for rides" is clearly the same as someone accusing somebody of sexual assault. Obvious trolling = Serious Life Altering Allegations.
Next time you crack a bad joke, I hope someone accuses you of being a rap*st... shouldn't be anything wrong since theyre equivalent to you. Those kids may have been dumb but a false acucsation isn't proportional in the slightest.
Not even close by comparison
you really want to be famous dont you?
shut up
most braindead comment ive seen in my life
Volunteered for the police, we got to a scene where a woman accused a man of sexually assaulting her. After listening to their stories and once the woman calmed down a bit, she told us that they're actually in a relationship and that she was just mad at him. It wasn't the first time either. Guys, if something like this happens to you, walk away from the relationship. Don't ruin your life.
Yup, leave that bitch and never look back. Make sure everyone in her life knows she makes false claims of sexual assault too.
Of course youTurd has deleted the comment!
But- b b but believe all women misogynistic bigot 😡
Yep.
That's crazy wtf
The key problem here is that a person making such a false claim has practically zero consequences facing them
Exactly
EXACTLY. Needs to fckn end.
In this situation in particular they have 0 consequences because they complained to security who then called the cops. So unless there is a way to tie her to the false report I'm not even sure if she technically broke the law. Even though what she did is a scumbag thing to do and women like that deserve to lose everything in their life.
This 🔥
I wanna see someone that does a false accusation to get the Max sentence for the accused crime.
The power to falsely accuse someone with 0 evidence and 0 consequences is crazy imagine if there were no cameras
it's stupid how police will go off one person's assumption instead of doing their jobs and investigating. people have gotten shot because of bullshit like that.
Men need to start wearing body cameras
That power was given by men.
Reminds me of a white women that got a black kid killed for allegedly whistling. We know his name
@@alaintouloucanon5467 so? Doesn't make it right, it needs to change.
The miscommunication between security and the cops always makes things so much worse.
When men are accused falsely that never leaves them. The accuser gets away scot free. There needs to be something done to the accuser. This is wild
Yep.
Ripping off the tongue of a proven false-accuser. Hammurabi was a very smart man, his wisdom lives through millenniums.
this is why defamation charges need to be pushed. there is and can be something used against these kind of people. Defamation is that thing we can use to stop such false accusations like this.
@@woefulfisher yep Tuco also said it best Columbian neckties. Cut the throats and pull their lying tongues through the slits.
Yo its the internet, y'all remember when 4chan found Shia Lebouf? Bruh just let some weirdos track her ass down
One of my close friends was falsely accused. It ruined his life and he tried to commit suicide and still takes psychological therapy. Women who lie about sexual assault and rape are pure evil. There ought to be a severe punishment for this.
Yes there definitely needs to be a severe punishment. it should be taking seriously as if was an actual sexual assault. it makes harder for people who actually been sexually assaulted, but until that day comes your still gonna have a lot of entitled people making false allegations.
Women are going to be sorry they did this shit because America is falling fast and the real heathens will every where and us men can fight they cant
@@Z-isuckatgaming solitary confinement for 1 who year. No visits
Women like them are the reason no one believes women when they come forward
FACTS.
This is honestly horrific when you think about it. How easy it was to be accused, even with a camera right there. Someone still had the balls to say they were sexually assaulted, security acted quickly on it, and at the end, the people falsely accused gets banned? Do I smell lawsuit in the forseeable future?
Yeah it should be instant jail time for them, theyre on camera committing a crime.. it should be an open n shut case in this instance
@@ChillAssTurtle which crime did they commit? Trolling someone isnt a crime. Its annoying, but no crime
@@stefanos7724 they mean the women making the false accusation.
@@stefanos7724 false accusation
@@stefanos7724 not the youtuber you moron, the people who falsely accused him.. on camera.. we all saw it.. your brain is dumb as heck
I love that it went from "if you're innocent you'll get front of the line passes" to "you're innocent and so you're banned" real quick
But the accuser gets to go back whenever
I hate this logic some people have of "If you're offended or angry then that must mean your guilty" even though anger is an emotion that humans feel when something unfair is done to them
Accusing someone of something they never did and treating them like they did it is gonna cause anger and offence in the accused. What don't people get from this
I saw somewhere on some documentary about integration rooms with cops that if a suspect is slowly getting more angry from an accusation that it's a sign they may be innocent as normally the guilty one tends to act calm and collected. Guilty people think being angry and offended will make them look guilty, actual innocent people are bound to get angry and offended because they know they are innocent and are being accused of something they never did.
Like this video. We know the man didn't what he was accused of and he was getting more angry everytime the accusation was brought up.
I hate people who honestly say "If you're innocent then you wouldn't take it personally"
I love how the woman is able to make a grave accusation for 1 minute then go on about her day and nothing happens to her for the false accusation.
Yeah the people running that park should ban her as well. At the very least be consistent. Not saying that makes up for intentionally falsely accusing some but the park shouldn't allow someone who does this to be around other patrons that's asking for trouble.
To be fair, we don’t know if nothing else happened. Maybe the cop went over to talk to her. Write her up for false accusations. All we have is this dude’s video
Modern women are sociopaths
@@milton7763 bro, nothing happened. Point is there needs to be consequences for these type of things and the accusers were able to still go on about their day even if they were “spoken to”. Thats not the case for the ones who were accused. Its not rocket science
@@justsomeguy2142 there is a punishment
Falsely accusing somebody of anything like this, it deserves jail time. I don't care. This is not okay. This will ruin lives.
Even if they don’t get jail time for being falsely accused this is gaslighting to the extreme, it quite literally mentally ruins mens grasp on reality and shit like this mentally and can physically hurt men as well just from studies that show how shit like rejection or straight up gaslighting can be physically painful to deal woth
Yeah sound cool and all but imagine the flip side you get some shit done to you you go and report it but don't have bulletproof evidence... So now your ass is going to fail for "falsely accusing"
Both senarios sound fucked
I feel like people need to take accusations for what they are accusations. And in obvious cases you should be punished
Nego sta brate
It happens more than you think, and it does ruin lives... Not even a slap on the wrist for the person falsely accusing him. People don't even want to go by you or touch you with a 10ft pole...
Nah, bitches that lie like this need to be drawn and quartered
I remember being expelled from middle school in 2003 (8th grade) for being accused of sexually assaulting two girls in my advanced art class. They both came forward & confessed to lying about it 3 days later & they suffered NO consequence. I had no idea this was a thing that people do until recently & it's really disturbing.
sad. ive been sexually assaulted by several women growing up but didn't think too much of it since men are constantly told to "suck it up".
I'm curious as to what happened to you after they confessed? Did you transfer schools or did they bring you back? Did anyone apologize?
I would've sued the lying bitches into bankruptcy.
@@chapacoka When I went back, I had to talk to the principal with them in the office. They gave me the dryest apology I've ever heard in my life. After that, the principal asked me if I knew what would make them want to accuse me of doing that. I didn't have an answer for him back then & I still don't have an answer to that weird question.
@@thelonercoder5816 I'm sorry that happened to you. The world is so full of liars who push false narratives of truth that it's hard for people to express or believe what's rightfully true. I hope someone listens to you & believes you. I do.
Should have stayed, get a police report and then get a lawyer then sue the park and sue the lady.
Exactly - nothing to worry about as everything is on camera
@@sebbyh9764Our system is innocent till proven guilty. You shouldn’t have to prove your innocence over false accusations.
@@darklyripley6138is more like was
@@sebbyh9764you didn't notice that despite all the evidence on camera that the guys did nothing, the only people who had any penalties was the guys.
Yeah "nothing to worry about"
@@darklyripley6138yeah but that doesn't apply to the internet. They'll dox you, email your job, family, etc. And if you're a content creator, say bye bye to your livelihood
I’ll keep saying it until it becomes a thing. WE NEED AN “ACCUSER REGISTRATION” LIKE THE SEX OFFENDERS LIST. These things need to be recorded somehow as to prevent repeat offenders. Everyone can see it
That's a great idea!
best comment yet
no they need to be on the SO list and given the same obscurity as the people who get put away. Then they will have compassion.
YESSS
I like the spunk but I think that’s a horrible idea. Predators could target the people on that list so no one listens even if a true situation occurs. Bad idea I personally think.
Takes me back to what Preach said like a year or two ago. "The apology has to be just as loud as the disrespect."
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No, it needs to be louder to drown out all the bullshit
I worked at an animal clinic and was restraining a client's dog. The dog was out of control, terrified, and the owner was trying to help keep him calm. He accidentally touched my hand and was apologizing. I didn't see it as a problem since both my hands were holding the dog, so I thought it was weird that he was apologizing over and over. I said "It's fine, no need to apologize..". Then he told me he was falsely accused of sexual harassment. I honestly believe him because of how scared he looked for accidentally touching my hand :(( And when he told the entire story I felt really bad and was upset along with him. Falsely accusing someone can literally ruin lives depending on how far it goes.
That's crazy..
Thank you for sharing
They never denied being there, they denied assaulting anyone
Thank goodness they were recording. Even tho I don’t condone “trolling,” what they accused them of was insane and I would sue as well. That’s not a topic to play with
Their trolling is what got this started. They need to explain that part too for context.
Yeah to think this all could have been avoided from the start if the guys filming weren't out deliberately looking to trigger people.
@@DigitalRecursor alright buzz killington lets all go out and act like npcs in every public setting or else we may deserve a sexual assault case or worse coming our way
@@DigitalRecursor I know right it’s like the videoes and news reports of irl trolls/“prankster “ being arrested or killed wasn’t enough lol
@@Redxminder or maybe don’t come up to random ppl and expect them to play along or be in the mood for your nonsense cuz there worse that can come ur way than a false rape allegation ie death.
There needs to be some kind of punishment for making a provably false claim like this. It's wild that people can just get mad and try to ruin your life, and the worst thing that will happen is it doesn't work.
@Jessie they find everything else on the internet
@Jessie what punishments have you ever heard of for false sexual harassment or rape allegations? Cite 2 cases please
@Jessie what punishments? Amber Heard has a massive following? Proved in court she was lying. Multiple photos of her the next day looking fine after she said depp beat her.
Words have become 'so powerful' that people are now feeling emboldend to use them against others. Classics are : racist, n*zi, transphobe, white suprem, misoganyst.
@Jessie all that would’ve happened at most is her getting a stern talking to about not doing that. There’s no law anywhere that says false accusations get punished by law. You’re thinking defamation claims. Those aren’t the same. If I say you’re a murderer on my YT channel, you can file defamation. If I say you assaulted me but neither of us has evidence and you say you didn’t do it, then the case just ends. If you do have footage, they just say “you’re free to go” and ask that both parties stop having troubles with each other. Even if the accusation was blatantly a lie. If a woman accuses you of grape but you have footage and all you did was wave at her, nothing happens to her. She just leaves and is some what embarrassed.
@@rapidroadsode8789 exactly. all you're going to get is "but if we punish false allegations actual victims won't come forward". which is utter horse shit. victims won't come forward because of the actions of the liars. but if you stop the lying, a lot of people would lose power they didn't earn.
Imagine a poor soul who didn't know any laws, just followed whatever he was told, and had no video footage. The actual horror.
🤚🏼
Thats how a lot of innocent people go to jail
But they did know the laws and did have video footage. So, this whole drama was just the kids overreacting to the women overreacting.
Why did I waste my time watching this crap? This is the true horror of my life.
Every black man during the confederacy
@@Spectrum0122 they had black slave owners ur ignorance hurts me
I just bailed out after 5 months in jail because my ex accused me of an aggravated assault. This kinda crap happens everyday and it’s messed up. My whole life has been flipped on it’s head because of it.
I hope your life has been getting better bud!
I recorded my ex during breakup and it saved my life. Many girls are so vindictive and evil when it doesn’t work out or when they get rejected.
You got sentenced with zero evidence? You sure you didn’t do anything?
@adamnorlen8532 it happens all the time
@@zay2241 a prosecutor always has to present something. You don’t receive an actual sentence with zero evidence. It’s very possible that what actually happened wasn’t as bad as the case might make it sound, might have just been self defense, but the likelihood of him going to jail for actually doing nothing is very small
Time to enforce “filing a false police report”.
Throw the book at her. This is terrifying.
Could easily have gone another way.
Patrice ONeal was falsely imprisoned under a similar scenario, spoke at length about how terrible it is to be falsely accused and how false accusations need to be punished.
That may work for the Karens calling the police on Black people.
No report was filed so she can't be charged with that but abuse of emergency services is a real thing.
@@nikolnolastname4473 even with no report, the "claim" and the even mention of it can destroy people's lives.
It's already a thing on multiple levels. Whoever called in the false report can be charged with various offenses. Same as calling in prank calls to emergency services.
@@vaushawnbrown2110 I didn't say it didn't
For anyone wondering. Yes, "False report to a Peace Officer" is an actual crime. It is in TX and I'm sure other states have a smiliar law. Only issues are is a conviction usually require a written statement with a perjury clause be signed. Furthermore, it is only a class B misdemeanor.
They would also have to make a report to a cop, not a security guard.
We need to hold these women accountable and the filing a false report is not enough it needs to be a felony.
Not only that courts don't file on false reports because it can deter actual victims from reporting but again it is fucked up.
@@Tinmann_77 to make them accountable we need to erase all simps in goverment and society...by any means..the only thing i know for real is bloodshed
@@Tinmann_77 f all the pacifist ill erase them too. Anyone in my way
@@supergobgoblin424 then go out and do it plenty of talkers walk the walk
Some folks would say "well if they're innocent, then they just need to go with the security and verify that the women identified the wrong guys." To that I say no. She could easily lie and say that's them and boom arrested in a he says-she says case where you have to prove your innocence instead of them proving your guilt. Even with the camera, she could say it happened out of sight from the camera, get a false witness, and they're screwed. They did the right thing to leave the location and speak with the cops before the woman had the chance use crocodile tears on them.
True I would also like to point out that a lot of these places have security cameras and those guys never mentioned that they checked them. If they aren't bothering to do that or can't I don't think you should go anywhere private with that kind of person.
so you believe the same with cops right. just because youre innocent doesnt mean you should cooperate right
@@isabelward7783 what are smoking and can you share?
@@hamsterwolf oh so you admit your reasoning doesn't make sense. And don't worry nothing you could afford
Leave and call your lawyer and have them do the bulk of the talking to the cops.
Why would she lie about a 'sExUaL aSsAuLt' if she _knows_ they were recording the entire time?! 🤷🏿♂️ Wtf?
Because she knows she'll be long gone before park security ever gets their hands on the video, and even if she isnt gone, she knows the park wont do anything to her. so she causes problems for the guys with no consequence to herself. Win win in her mind.
Genuinely sad that women like this are out there. They make it so difficult for actual assault victims to be taken seriously.
That and the potential destruction of people's lives. Any accusation like this stays with you, even false accusations.
@@munky342 You aren't wrong. 5 years from now they'll still be getting asked about that time they were accused of SA at "that one park." The details often get muddled with time , but not the alleged crime.
@@JustinDavis90 that's why I firmly, and I think rightly, believe that false accusations of any kind should carry the exact same penalty as the alleged crime.
Even down to registering as an offender in the case of SA. Maybe just a different register. Would love to see people have to introduce themselves to all their neighbours as someone who falsely accuses others of SA.
ngl I never believe anyone. Learned from young age that people are awful like that for no reason.
its what runaway feminism does
This should be immediate 5 years of jail for the woman.
It's an erosion of the justice system and faith in it.
Or the same amount of time as some who commits sexual assault. Just the accusation ruins the mans life and when the truth comes out and the man is vindicated a fraction of the people who heard about the accusation hear it was lie.
Nah, 100 hrs of community service would do
@@NL-fg6it, woo there. She's a woman. You're being harsh: 5 hours of community service, and she gets to lecture us about oppression of green-haired people while doing so.
Women are the most privileged individuals at least in the USA and they are treated better than kids they don’t even have any problems, they won’t to act like they have it hard while being protected heavy by the government so miss me with that pay gape and that other bullshit they bitch about
False accusations have ruined lives.
I fully believe anyone who falsely accused someone should be fined and possibly jail.
Both. False accusations such as this deserve jail and a big fine. There must be consequences for bs like this.
it should be a death sentence and your head put on a pike for others to see what happens if you falsely accuse someone, this is the only right way.
@@erikasmith8894 Erika out here speaking the truth
Is real
I worked with a guy who spent 45k on defending him self over a rape accusation and found not guilty cause her friend called her out. To put that into perspective 45 k is one year of his wages spent and nothing happened to her the matriarchy
Consequences from the women that false accusation those boys. Karens need to go to jail!
There needs to be consequences for false accusations. Either monetary or jail time, cause stuff like this is ridiculous.
It should be death
There is, women are just exempt from it in cases like this... Courts and law enforcement are 100% bias depending on what the person had between their legs when they were born.
Should be both 50k minimum enforcible via asset forfeiture. And a 2 year sentence, aswell as being placed on a false accuser registry.
I have arrested someone for falsely reporting an incident here in NYC. Mostly though, it becomes a civil matter. These guys can and should be sue the Faire and the women.
@@LuxInvicta and the worst part isn’t just the immediate harm to the falsely accused it’s the fact that it’s because of people like this that we end up having to scrutinize real victims so hard. this shit has long-term consequences for everyone especially real VICTIMS it’s utterly disgusting
I love that he asked “are you a cop?” know your rights people!!!
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I get sick of women abusing this narrative to work in their favor cause they don’t know how to control their emotions. They really need to allow the falsely accused to in turn press charges in these situations. It sickens me especially when victims of SA have a hard enough time being vocal about their situation from fear of backlash and other reasons. To sit here and play on such a serious accusation cause your upset really needs to be a crime.
Girls use this as a social bludgeon, a club to smash men and boys and ruin their lives. My nephew just turned 17 and he has already been accused twice and has had to deal with the social repercussions and the hate from parents that come with that. Crazy jealous women are the most dangerous creature on the planet. One of the girls actually thought that afterward she could be his girlfriend.
Yup in this scenario, there are two groups of victims: those who are falsely accused and the victims of ACTUAL SA
Everytime one person spreads falsehoods , the true victims suffer
@@joshuasterling2144 oh that’s so horrible I’m so sorry he’s experiencing that at such a young age. They are and it’s scary knowing there are so many narcissistic crazy ass women out here who have no concern for the trauma and damage they cause. That girl was definitely delusional. It’s no way she really thought that man would want to pursue anything with her afterwards. Smh
Troll got trolled. He falsely accused her of line cutting. He thought it was big fun until the shoe was on the other foot. Then he's offended; boys the bitch.
Umm they are called hoes ma’am.
They should make any false accusation a felony with one year minimum imprisonment if found guilty if the amount of time a guy serve and found innocent should be added to her. They should make it a pass , if they admit Lying within 48hrs with a day in jail . This is such a bad thing that they get a pass , it’s happened to me and friends of mine. It’s not ok . Unfortunately unless all of us men get together and make a crazy rally around the country for it nothing will ever happen.
Exactly, women talk about equality, well, that includes equal consequences 👍
How would someone enforce that? What constitutes as proof? What if there is no proof one way or the other? The logistics going into something like that would be difficult, the closest thing you have is defamation.
Won't ever happen unless you get millions of women to push for that to become law.
And they won't because it takes away a weapon they can use against men.
“Men lie more often.
Women tell the biggest lies.”
- Chris Rock
Wow that's so deep
Further proves my theory that comedians are modern day philosophers
Actually, women lie more often and tell the biggest lies. There, I fixed it for you.
"It's your baby"
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Was he being an arsehole to these women? Sure - he was trolling.
Did he assault anyone - no. It was all on camera.
Should he stay around to stand up to an unsubstantiated assault claim? No - he stands to gain nothing.
In a just world, he could stay and roll with the "innocent until proven guilty" point. BUT, false accusations happen (it happened here) and it can ruin somebody.
Props to the police officer - he's very level headed and just enquires.
Uh ok
When was the world just it’s always been survival of the fittest.
@@tooxtalivai0690 Sure - my point was “in a just world, he could do X, BUT…” indicating that I agree that it’s NOT a just world 👍
@@beelzzebub don’t expect these commenters to have a decent reading comprehension level, some can’t seem to tell the difference between misogyny and masculinity.
@@CChissel Sure - I was also going to pull up the inaccuracy of “survival of the fittest” and explain that a better description of evolutionary competition is “survival of the best fitted” (as being fit isn’t the same as being best fitted to your environment) but Probably no worth it…
(Although I guess I ended explaining that anyway 😅 what can I say - I love talking science + Biology)
"Men lie most; women tell the biggest lies"
-Chris Rock
"It's your baby"
Thats false. Woman lie more. Its been proven.
even that is not true, women lie constantly
"I was at Tony House."
"He R&ped me".
As someone who worked security, what you gotta do when someone comes to you telling you they have been victim of a crime, you tell them to call the cops... THEY have to report it, they have to do the talk, you simply stay there to make sure she is safe. And if she asks you to do something for them that you don't have to do, you are very welcome to say "no, that's not necessary".
This is absolutely getting out of hand in society, there needs to be repercussions for falsely accusing others of crimes that didn't happen.
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Totally agree, im so sick of these people ruins lives without consequences.
@@pulsaran yeeep same, tiring and shameful
They should be confined with the crime they accuse the other of, thats it all we need to stop this shit.
I work security and what Preach is saying is facts. I know coworkers who will blow sh*t out of proportion and make things so much worse. I’m not putting in all that energy and paper work unless there’s verifiable proof. I hate people that go on these damn power trips as if they were beat up as kids and now have a badge to go wild. They just said it’s recorded so all that hostility is unnecessary.
i need to buy a body camera these days
Yeah, the TH-camr said he had proof of innocence and I'm extremely baffled why security didn't ask to see it.
@@wayIess Because they’re a box of trash.
I don't know if it's wise but considering in that situation as they had evidence of their innocence and the whole interaction on video, but if it were me, I would have liked to challenge the women...and "security". I would very much like to know who almost got me arrested for a false crime claim.
You dont have to work security to know that. Every job, every field has that person that does that shit.
I literally lost my job at a spa for being accused of sexual harassment, that became sexual mischievous, then I was told I made clients and other therapist uncomfortable with my draping. I did the same draping as every other therapist and even more conservative with my draping than the female therapist. If someone doesn't like you they will say anything to get you gone
You probably should explain what "draping" is.
@@Punty050 fair. Its a term for tucking and or folding a sheet as to not expose areas not being worked on for both modesty purposes as well as insulation to help keep the body warm. Mainly the modesty part
@@timmahh_jimmahh Appreciation and peace, thank you. Shame about the job, only good wishes for the future. You will do better and get better in the future after you resolve the accusation and job loss mentally and emotionally.
Most women have a measure of hatred towards men. It's sad that no one is calling it out for what it is. You were "different", and therefore you where considered the evil one.
Lmfao this actually urks me and I usually side w w women, but literally going to spas, getting undressed, they're literally they're to massage/spoil/touch you. Seems like some women of those Women just haven't been touched in years, what Karen's. Lmfao. I'm sorry but I wish I could afford the luxury of a spa, let alone a nice RESPECTFUL spa dude to massage me , because men give WAY better messages with their big strong hands. I'm sorry bruh!!! Don't let it get to u ☺️
I use to work security for a hotel in Vegas. When we would get reports of things like this or just in general we would have to make contact with the other party and get their side of the story. If there was a crime “committed” and one of the parties requested police we would have to hold all and call them so the police could launch an investigation and resolve it. The security office approached it wrong and escalated it off bat.
My understanding is you try to talk with them until police get there, but you cant hold them. This security guy was intentionally stalling for the cops to be there, and seemed a little shady, but he never physically stopped them from leaving. Thats where I see security get in legitimate trouble, when they essentially illegally detain someone without authority and wont let them leave
I was a massage therapist at a high end spa for making 60 to 70k a year. I lost everything due to false allegations. NO proof, no witnesses, no evidence whatsoever. No investigation was done. Two felony Charges were brought against me based off a verbal statement. I was bullied into taking a plea deal after 6 months in jail to avoid conviction by a jury that "aren't going to believe me"
Now I have two misdemeanors on my record, lost my license, 40k in attorney Fees and bills due to lack of employment and served 1 year.
what was the verbal statement if you don't mind me asking? perhaps you can help some one else avoid this happening to them? also what kind of safe guards can someone use to protect themselves? can you ask to have audio recordings of each session for your protection?? or are you pretty much screwed?
@@itsjustavi audio and video are against HIPPA regulations. In the State of Virginia, all that is needed to charge someone with a sex crime is a verbal statement. No DNA, no witnesses, no physical evidence, no investigation. The claimant also is NOT required to testify in court or show up to any court hearings for that matter. The city did ZERO investigation because they don't have too. The claimant refused DNA test, refused Victims advocate, refused to testify in court, refused to press charges, refused to talk to the criminal defense investor that was hired by my attorney. It's plain and simple. There's no way in the state of Virginia to protect yourself from false allegations.
@@talbit jesus.... move?
@@itsjustavi @TALBIT Not a bad idea, but it's a little too late now. Any decent massage place in any state would do a background check, and now he has a record. He probably wasn't aware how bad a false accusation could be, before it happened. I can understand no video, but honestly, I think there should at least be audio in the rooms. And I am appalled that there was no investigation on something that ruined a man's life. It's pretty much guilty, no matter what you say, if what he says is true. I would like to think this would be grounds for a lawsuit against the state, if for nothing else, but to change the rules, so any future accused person can have their day in court.
@@talbit I'm late to seeing this. How horrible! I am so sorry. For others moving forward. I'd still record audio in spite of HIPPA.
A lot of times, corporate policy doesn't match/reflect the actual job. If you work at a gas station, keep a gun on you. I wouldn't say "oh, but policy says I'm not allowed. So I'll risk being robbed at gunpoint or shot".
Because odds are if you really get in the mix and need it, you'll be glad you had it and keep your life and sanity vs losing a job or everything and facing jail time.
That girl needs to be identified and called out. We know she's done this before and will do it again. She felt offended and accused these kids of sexual assault. That's insane!
You know it was the blue haired freak lol
She seemed super defensive and we have no idea what she has going on in her head or if she was possibly being asked leading questions. There doesn’t always have to be a villain y’all.
@@VictoryHardysure there doesn't have to be but often there is...
@@VictoryHardy she accused them of SA, you don’t get talked into that when you know they didn’t do that
@@burtreynolds8030 your right SA is a giant leap from him just trolling. The security guard was also trying to get him to say something incriminating. A lot of Security guards are power tripping A-holes, I’ve seen it firsthand.
This is sad and scary. What’s worse is those women are mothers. I have a feeling they were called out and lied to the security guard, who did a crap job at handling the situation. The children who were with those women are more than likely soaking up what they witnessed and processing false accusations in their mind as “okay”.
10 years later: I don't understand why my child is a scoundrel. I raised him right, yet he steals and lies every single day!
It's like those parents that constantly say bad words at home, and then get angry when their kids start doing the same in public.
Yup woman's fault fr fr
“who did a crap job at handling the situation”
the police/security guard/authorities aren’t there and they are basing their behavior to what was reported because there is literally no way to know that she’s lying and same goes if the accused said they didn’t do it, the point is it is “reported” therefore the people involved must first be detained to interrogate and not let them escape possible criminal charges, they look for the evidences like security camera footage, witness reports, even physical examination sometimes if it involves violence
like it or not if you think it’s not right to be detained and forced to follow their orders keep in mind there are actual cases(and they are the majority of cases) that isn’t fake like in this video and if the procedure/law happens to fit what YOU, the youtuber in this video and Preaches wants then there are actual victims that wouldn’t get justice and actual criminals not getting what they deserve
you clearly know nothing of what is commonly a common sense procedure, you, the youtuber in this video and Preach video are punching in the air here for nonsensical reason
another thing, they are in a private property so obviously it’s not the actual cops job to police what’s happening there, but as a business that deals with masses of people they employ securities which may not be cops but they are the cops by proxy just not in a public property, they have protocols just like cops they aren’t just civilians that just so happen to have a job to play pretend being a cop they also have legal authority as a proxy public sevant
@@f.b.lagent1113 yeah, could you imagine if that was a legit report and they didnt handle it the same way XD
I wonder how they'd like it if one of *their* kids was accused of something like that, probably not at all. It's like when those toxic feminist types forget they have male relatives, treating other men terribly with no self awareness.
But I wasn't planning to have my faith in humanity restored today anyway, so there's no loss there!
Anyone that knowingly makes a false accusation should be charged/fined .
This is an act of violence. Lying to take someone's freedom away.
Exactly
Words are never violence .
@@Bryan48950 Words or more so blatant lies can most definitely result in unjustified violence.
This is true.
dude you really don't get it do you. get this bullshit outta here. violence is VIOLENCE. words aren't. you are just as stupid as the other crowd saying this dumb shit.
that said, the bitch should be put in jail instead yes. but it is not violence. moron.
I was falsely accused, and that lady still walks around like it didn’t even happen. Her boyfriend harassed me for 2 years and she dumped him after he found out it was false.. Still disappointed till this day
I’m so sorry you had to go through that
@@cian2898 Its alright just a lesson, i can’t expect everyone to do right
Did he apologize?
Also had a girl that would always try to get me to drink with her so she could grope me, I'd ask her to stop and everything and she'd still grab my genitals and rub on me and shit, people that were around me would just laugh while it was happening.
@@jamessmith4455 She still saying her ex made that up but she knows thats not true
As a women who HAS been SAd... these women piss me off. Not only does this hurt the falsely accused men but also real victims of SA. I think every woman who does this should go to jail.
It makes me wonder what these women would do if truly assaulted. Unless it's violent most women won't immediately come forward. It's a trauma that they have to process. The embarrassment and humiliation that can happen if they aren't taken seriously or believed is there as well. And these damn women make it even worse for SA victims.
I believe the same thing, I’m sorry to here that you were SAd. I have thankfully been not SAd but I have been harassed sometimes. I am a woman who believes that if a woman can accuse a man of that stuff she gets to live out the sentence that man was going to live out. It just sucks that this stuff happens today in this day and age. This is also why I don’t really trust my own gender when it comes to stuff like this.
Honestly I’ve been on the receiving end of this garbage before. Except it was me getting accused of being homophobic after some older lady started harassing me and I told her she was making me uncomfortable. Then she blew it out of proportion and said I was treating her bad because she was a lesbian. But I was the one that was ostracized and yelled at by everyone around us at the time. It’s crazy how people won’t even try to get the full story and will just jump on the band wagon and take the “victims” side. The thing I was on the receiving end of was minor, I can’t imagine how these poor men feel when crazy bi*ches get away with this with no consequences. They should be charged the same time the real victims would have to serve.
@@rudecanadian bro i don't understand lesbians what are they ? I've seen them assaulting some gay guys as well and than scream ally like wtf .
at least your a woman and can thus report it, and even tangentially be believed, good luck if you any sort of guy
Most of the time its just old busy bodies or white knighting security guards. These amusement parks have all kinds of bullshit policies and run things like their own private Fiefdom. Its gotten worse what with surveillance technology. That woman wearing all the camouflage facepaint certainly knows her way around the security system there.
The cop needs to articulate why they're being detained he can't just say "we're called to investigate" that's not how this works and refusing I.d is not grounds for jail. The cop needs serious retraining or firing
Being under reasonable suspicion they committed a crime meaning they have to ID. Even though it’s a bad report the cops didn’t know that, therefore they would have to ID and could be placed under arrest if they refuse. Just look it up next time
Right?? Is this the gestapo now?
@@austinh7110reasonable? Hmm 🤔
I worked security for about 3 years. The slimiest thing I’ve seen is when one of my co-workers was writing a citation to a DoorDash driver that was parked in red. The driver was like “oh mb” and tried to drive off before he got the citation. My co-worker who was standing behind the car kicked the back of it, made a dent and chipped some paint then tried to say he got hit.
And those are the ppl I don't want in law enforcement for as long as they live.
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False accusations need to be prosecuted and given the same sentence if the person was convicted.
jean the real tea is that there is no legal frame work for this when the victim is male. and I am no red piller .
I would like that
That's what they do in Italy. If found to be lying - the woman gets the jail time the man would have received.
@@mmluon So would u say theres less false claims down there because of it? Just asking if u know.
Disagree. There are 2 actions here.
1. The false accusations was intentional and should get reported.
2. It is well know people's memories are unreliable as well as people get heated over nothings.
You would get a society like Japan which just avoids these issues rather than a society that speaks up cause any support to a liar would be criminal.
Security Staff: "You are GUILTY until proven innocent.."
Cops: "yeah.. nah.. that's not how it works.."
But that is how justice system work youre arrested before being convicted of a crime
@@PSNthr33staks being arrested doesnt mean your guilty, people are arrest and released all the time
The security guard also wanted to get both sides, that's why he was taken them in for questioning. If you were the security guard and heard that these people potentially sexually harrased someone, you wouldnt let them leave scott free
@@becky47231 you get arrested because they think you're guilty of something
@@zee-anime If a crime happens you call a cop, I have worked security and if you do the job to the letter you are glorified surveillance cameras (at least in my country) you pretty much only get directly involved when there is immediate risk of physical harm to someone or someone refusing to leave somewhere they aren't supposed to be (private property, intoxicated people at bars etc.)
you don't get carte blanche to make up your own rules and trust me security lie all the time to get their way BECAUSE they have no authority in most situations, so unless you see a crime happen your best move is to tell anyone who comes to you to write down a description and file a police report, other than that you want to act a cop go and actually become one otherwise stay in your lane
they believed the accuser
didnt even ask to watch the footage or verified it
like automatically if they are guilty
"if your innocent"!?!? soo persumptious
we should protest the park or something
It's almost impossible to get police or a DA to criminally charge someone with making a false accusation, but with evidence (like a video) you would have a very good chance of winning if you sued civilly for defamation. The problem would be finding an attorney or firm interested in taking the case.
Sue for what? Them liberal girls all broke. They got nothing to sue for they wouldn’t even have $100 to their names.
That's the other side of the problem lawyers don't see a profit on taking on these cases.
If it hasn’t cost you any loss of income etc there’s nothing to sue for. They haven’t lost anything, nor did they need therapy afterwards, or anything that would show damage needing to be compensated for.
Defamation requires you to prove you were damaged by the incorrect claim…
This would go nowhere very quickly.
@@creatrixZBD just realised you said the same thing haha.
They should introduce a law that where if someone is proven to be falsely accusing someone, they should get the punishment that the falsely accused person could of got.
yes I agree!
it is already hard to punish them in anyway let alone what your asking for
@@idonargesy8197 its "hard to punish them" because unless they file a false police report they haven broken any laws and a false police report is a slap on the wrist IF the police even bother to do the extra work to charge you for it (most won't because most das don't want to go to trial over something so minor)
Needs to be a FELONY to falsely accuse someone of sexual assault. Then maybe some das would prosecute these bitches
It’s called false report it’s already a law. You need sufficient evidence to effect an arrest
@@idonargesy8197 not really, just need to make a law... Pretty easy to enforce.
I was at the mall this past weekend with a female friend of mine, and and we horse play a little, sure, but we're like that. We're there for like 2 hours while she does some shopping, and a security guard randomly comes up to me while i'm alone saying "we have reports of you assaulting a woman" ...i'm like excuse me? as my friend walks out of the store to meet back up with me. "you mean her?" people really do just accuse people of things all the time
they crave the feeling of being morally superior to others, which is one of the main reasons cancel culture is so rampant.
SMH sad
Being trespassed? Sue them and take it to court. They were trying to leave then they were detained. They were voluntarily leaving so they should not have been trespassed.
The sad part is how normal all this shit is. A lotta innocent men are in jail or in prison due to a girl being mad for 2 minutes over something that honestly was harmless.
It makes it hard for people to believe REAL victims of rape, sexual assaults, kidnappings, various forms of abuse, ect. Every man needs to know the law in order to protect themselves from situations like this.
“B-b-b-but less than 2%”
Emmit Till is Dead because of this.
The REAL victims in these cases are the men. We don't always have to make it about women all the time to take an issue seriously.
men are not the issue here... the issue is that women don't know or don't care about the law and there is 0 punishment for them abusing the law.
@@dixbowman3452 no he’s dead because of racism Till didn’t even speak to the woman per the woman’s confession 50 years later. What happened to Till was a sexual assault and murder.
I don't find what these guys do to be particularly clever or funny. It's annoying, but they definitely did not deserve false and potentially life ruining accusations.
I think trolling is fine when executed right. But the problem is that Lofe has 0 charisma and doesn’t know when to stop
Ehh it is funny
@9BeastKing oh yeah meme anarchy saves lives bRuH
@9BeastKing Better to be a piece of shit than do nothing... The kids are not alright.
@9BeastKing What is it that they're doing so special besides earning money?
"Miscommunication" my arse. People who file false accusations, and the rent-a-cop simps who pull crap like this know exactly what they are doing.
The security guard had limited authority to detain them, but if there was a crime committed, he does have an obligation to detain them enough for authorities to arrive. There wasn't a crime committed, but how does that guy know there wasn't a crime committed? I think people are just taking issue with authority in general.
@@billyin4c514 the dude was still power tripping lol. Unearned authority will always be met with hostility. It's human nature and rightly so.
I think it's possible there really could have been miscommunication. She could have said, "there are these guys with a camera going around and harassing people, they harassed me." And the security guard could have made the assumption that by harassment, she meant sexual. There's a reason things get garbled when you play telephone.
She also could have straight up made a false allegation. Guess we'll never know for sure.
@@kellyriddell5014 well their faces are all over the internet at this point (the original video has million of views) so they could come out and say there was a miscommunication, if that's what happened
@@kellyriddell5014 nah, I'm not giving any woman the benefit of the doubt. Because what we're currently doing in this Society is the opposite, we're giving all women credibility in spite of whatever their character is, and in spite of how intelligent or stupid they are. I'm pointing out intelligence because a lot of women are too stupid to navigate conversations that have any degree of pressure, or where they're taking criticism, or where there might be conflict. Rather than having those conversations in a civil way, their response is to claim that they're being victimized. Oh and then there are just women that are terrible people. So I'm not giving this woman the benefit of the doubt, when our whole society is already giving women credibility by default.
it's not trespassing unless you're asked to leave and refuse. literally the opposite of what happened.
We've seen countless videos of dudes getting arrested, beaten up, even killed because of a woman lying. On the flip side, even when you tell the truth as a guy, people don't believe you or don't care. Maybe..just Maybe she'll have a son who goes through the same thing, and maybe she'll know what what it feels like.
Id rather have a donger than bleed every month though so.. if i could choose white guy in my next life i for sure would XD
Faaxxx
Look at Johnny Depp. It took him over 4 years to clear his name, and he was the actual victim.
Tried to get Terrell Owens caught up recently too
@@FrostTheRedeemed I personally love these little increments we're making, because eventually, all this will add up to "girl who cried wolf" situation. Nobody will believe it anymore, just like in the olden days. Same goes for words like racist, the -phobic & -ists labels. We're almost full circle.
Never joke around or be within half a mile of a woman with blue hair
Also, never talk to the police on any allegation. If you're not free to go, ask for a lawyer, even if you haven't done anything wrong. Just say lawyer and shut up
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Can't shut up in Serbia, the copper's gonna get an answer out of you, with or without a lawyer.
What if I don't have a lawyer
@@savapavlovic5319 I'm no language expert but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that neither you, I, nor the people in this video have even been to Serbia
@@zantiquechm3960 then shut up until they either let you go or arrest you in which case they have to provide you a lawyer. In most instances, you can't talk yourself out of getting arrested, but you can talk yourself into getting arrested.
I was LITERALLY just having this argument a couple days ago with some moron that thinks innocent people never get accused of shit they didn't do and that simply being respectful means you don't ever have to worry about getting caught up in bullshit. Thanks for another piece of evidence for me to throw on the mountain of proof I already had that proves what a stupidly dangerous concept that is
People actually believe innocents don't get accused?? That's the whole point of the justice system to determine if your innocent or not than punish the criminals...I'm so confused.
@@nerdycurls6253 apparently people really do believe that. It's sad and terrifying honestly
Jesus that is sad. Both sad sad and sad pathetic
Must be quite blissful living in such ignorance of real world problems. I worry with such ignorance they’ll make a mistake and be on the receiving end eventually though if they’re so careless
To be fair, this example doesn't involve anyone "just being respectful."
How you gonna trespass people when they're trying to leave and you're actively working to make them stay longer?
If false accusations were prosecuted, than these women would think twice before slandering men! This is the problem; there are virtually zero consequences for completely lying about serious crimes.
Give some jail time and this wouldn't be so common!
I understand their anger, but they should have just submitted with the police immediately, because they are the ones who will vindicate them.
They will not prosecute women for false allegations due to that fact they “feel” it’ll deter women who are sexual assaulted for not reporting it.
Correct! However, the system needs false accusations for it to continue churning money! Look up Duke Lacrosse! It's about greed, power, corruption, and notoriety! The entire judicial system needs to be completely overhauled. And that starts by having a new constitutional convention! And don't think politicians want that. So we are stuck with this pathetic system in place we have now.
Oh, they can't sue for false accusations?
@@StoicBehavioR That's idiotic. While I will admit, fasle allegations are a small percentage of reported rapes; there are still way too many.
Thats such stupid reasoning! One has nothing to do with the other.
Thanks for the insight!
@@nisuperman Yeah, have you ever sued anyone? Sure! Maybe in an ideal world a citizen would sue another and gain a large settlement, but this is the real world..not Hollywood.
So, the person who was falsely accused should pay for a lawyer, go to a tedious court trial, and then wait for a settlement they will never see?
They should be prosecuted.
The correct question is am I being detained? If not I can go. Not am I being arrested.
This is actually kind of scary that we can just get our lives ruined from talking to someone normally.
He wasn't talking normally, he was trolling and attempted to trigger her. And it worked.
@@sheerbeauty i get that, but regardless of the trolling, he didn't assault either of them, he just spoke to them in a trolling way. Its terrible that men can just be falsely accused because a woman doesn't like their behavior. And this doesn't just hurt men either, it makes the actual victims need to be questioned and doubted for the safety of everyone.
@@sheerbeauty so what? You just accuse someone of SA? While it isn't true and will ruin someone's life regardless of prosecution or not, your name will be tarnished. You're also making actual victims of SA less trustworthy.
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@@ItzMalick you know what? you are putting this on every damn comment, I respect the grind
Not gonna lie, you guys are like the big brothers of the internet, funny as hell. Wise because of the experiences you've had. And judgmental for when people do stupid shit but willing to give advice to fix it
This was a series of lying...the lady, security dispatch, and Dan the security tool. I hope there are lawsuits being filed by the TH-camr.
You'll have to explain what secuirty did wrong.
@@mrdoogle5931 Did you watch the video?
@@SoulReaper2078 Yes. Explain what they did wrong.
@@mrdoogle5931 If you can't see it, then you need to watch and listen more closely.
@@SoulReaper2078 Or, if they did something wrong, you could just tell me.
There really needs to be a law that punishes people for making false accusations against people. This sh*t is happening a LOT nowadays. People need to have repercussions for trying to ruin someone's life like this. Sexual assault? Are you kidding me?
HAPPENS A LOT..?? are you sane? what planet are you living on? youre like the flat earthers of mens rights activists.
There is. There’s one for impersonating a police officer too.
It depends on how far it's taken. It's against the law to file a false police report and make false statements to law enforcement but not to a security guard. I don't think it's against the law to merely say it but a person could take civil action i suppose. It varies wildly from location to location.
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@@ItzMalick Same here. Good luck bro.
Being wrongfully accused hurts. I've been there and the accusation to this day has me afraid to approach people
Bitch would go missing
You and me both
I feel you bro, hasn’t even been a year for me. Hopefully it eventually passes.
“you’re a man just deal with it”-society
@@ajfergy5569 lmao facts
I would instantly ask for the false accuser too be arrested
When do we start holding those women accountable for their actions?
Never it seems 🤷🏾♂️
When we stop works hunger bro
When society crumbles and it can't coddle nor entertain the delusions of women like them anymore.
As they say, there are no feminists in a house fire.
Heaven will have a renovation before that happens.
It'll only happen when there's no men on earth left to blame. Actually that won't work either lol
Enough. Shit's getting out of hand.
Blatant false accusations like this need to be prosecuted much, much more severely. I'm speechless.
They should be charged with a felony so that way their lives will forever be ruined just like the way they tried to do to these young men
Yup. I rejected a crazy bitch coworker that wanted to fuck after work. She started saying to management I was asking her inappropriate questions. All the questions that they accused me of saying were said to me by her. If I wasn't the beloved golden boy of that store I would be probably fucked.
The false accusation law should carry a sentence just as long as the crime they are accusing the other person of perpetrating.
Co sign
If it's there but I think it should be called restorative justice ⚖ 🤔
I would've filed a claim against whoever tried to file a false police report. Flip that shit back on them!
I’ve been accused of stealing despite being a regular. I was embarrassed and confused because it was front of a group of people. As a kid I called the police they investigated and said there’s been another group of kids that been stealing and so the employee kicked you out for that. I came back a later time and he apologized. It’s too bad the store closed months later.
Prolly had too much shoplifting and couldn’t keep up with the overhead. 😢
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That guy is most likely a retired cop or retired military, so he is still stuck in a time where he had actual authority...but now he don't.
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Most likely retired or discharged MP, got that " 0 to 100 douche bag power trip attitude".
@Tony G No, he’s not. He’s not a real cop.
Guy didn't actually do anything wrong. He heard a complaint and went to investigate. His duty is to the property owners' best interest. But he didn't stop them, touch them, or even barrate them. Honestly with how the guys were acting, I would have expected the security guard manhandled them
@Tony G It's hard because sexual assault accusation is not easy to deal with. Since you may loose your chance to deal justice if you let the accused leave before could check the evidence. To be honest I don't know why they didn't just show their footage , if even after that the security guy still try to pressure them to stay...then the security guy would not be doing the right thing.
I got accused of shoplifting in a drug store and the employees made a big scene about it, drawing a crowd of customers. At that point I went above and beyond to prove I didn’t steal shit because I knew it would make them look like complete assholes. Dumped my purse out, took off my jacket, turned my pockets inside out, even volunteered to take my shirt and pants off in front of everyone. “That’s not necessarily” is how they replied. I told them an apology is what is necessary, since I had obviously not taken a thing and had just spent like $75 right before this all happened. I still don’t know who claims to have seen me take anything, and I understand them wanting to mitigate any theft, but there’s a right and wrong way to go about it.
You definitely steal
@@generalwillwelsh7926100 percent she a thief
A lying security guard makes the company or the person they work for legally liable for that lie
As a security guard, Dan was doing way too much. All he had to do was walk up and ask what was going on and if they were causing trouble, ask them to leave the property, if they refuse, then you call the cops. Secuirty isn't police and they should keep that in mind.
Bruh you cant just let them walk after a sexual assault accusation not saying they did it but he would have been fired if that got to his boss. you cant blaim him blaim the women
@@battousaithekingslayer9913 Blaim? I hate to be that guy but cmon man
@@battousaithekingslayer9913 what do you mean "just walk" exactly? If you're saying it's expected for a security guard to act like the police and he'll get in trouble if he doesn't you clearly have *zero* idea what you're talking about. Trying to detain based on an *accusation* alone when ur not a cop is a *very* easy way to get sued, there isn't a security guard company in country that would encourage what this guy did. The steps listed in OPs comments is exactly what is expected they're not there to play cop or detective.
@@jakehero95 Did you see him trying to detain anybody? Didn’t lay his fingers on him once. He did a great job.
If it would have turned out that someone had been sexually assaulted and he had simply escorted the perpetrator off the premise the whole world would have yelled bloody murder
@@milton7763 I see how it could be taken that way but I wasn't trying to say he did, those were two separate statements I prob should've put a period between. Nah fam he showed behavior indicative of someone itching to overstep that's just asking for a lawsuit. I've worked security and had several friends that did every single place will tell you exactly what OP said above. You can talk about the gift of hindsight all you want but fact of the matter is neither you nor that security guard are the police, let them do their job. Yet again the steps listed above are what should've been done, which don't say just let them walk around y'all seem to keep ignoring the police involvement part. Y'all also seem to keep forgetting this was nothing but accusations with literally no proof whatsoever behind them, there was zero attempt to get their side of the story man's saw the camera and literally just used it to reinforce his bias that they did do something and filmed it. No this was a masterclass in a security guard trying to play detective, failing miserably, and putting the business close to or at risk of being sued. Don't be like this guy he just made everything worse, they might've even cooperated if he went about it the right way.
_Accusers must be prosecuted and receive harsh, life altering fines and jail time._
*The punishment must fit the evilness of the crime!!*
Evilness?
@@ShelCorporation
_Evilness:_ *The quality of being morally wrong or bad in principle or practice…*
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The way the "Director of Security" handled that situation very poorly. If there was a victim, then the victim should've called the police. All security should've done was observe and report. The moment you jump the gun, you become liable over a lie.
The director of security should have been holding the alleged victim at the security office for her personal safety. Can't protect her from SA if the location of her person is not well known.
@@JustinDavis90 Speaking in hindsight, she'd probably try to lie and say she was 'detained' by Security if things didn't go her way.
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Those two woman should go to jail. 🔥
I think the whole situation is absolutely insulting to accuse someone of such a “crime”. Also if the head of security was the older gentleman why wasn’t he out there with the police trying to handle this situation being that he is head of security. Instead he sends his 18 yr old minion out there to deal with the police during this serious situation. I smell a lawsuit heading their way. Also there are many security cameras around so they can easily see if there was an “ assault” smh.
Kids failed.
They should have talked to the security and cops to make a report on her for false accusations and hopefully get a bag of money
Solid
Security officer did his job...
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I don't see a lawsuit at all. What lawsuit could they do? The only ones they could sue was the one who reported it
I love “you denied you were there”. They never said that just said they didn’t assault anyone, it’s amazing how an op will try to put words in your mouth that you never said.
Yeap.
Which is exactly why you don’t say shit to begin with. Every word you speak is like a puzzle piece you are giving them. And they will use those pieces to paint what ever picture they want.
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Did we see the whole interaction between them, or just their edited footage? TH-camr worshippers are so narrow man…
@@elcj9705 whut the he’ll you talking bout? You really think they sexually assaulted someone and edited it out? You must be a full time 9-5 clown. Ain’t no worship going on just calling out a bozo security guard for being a bozo. Now I’m starting to think your the guard from the vid🤔…
She should 100% go to jail for lying like that !! Thats really fucked up this is the shit men have to deal with and what real women who are assaulted and people dont believe them bc of this shit!!! Also that guy is just doing his job he was told someone was sexually assaulted so all he was doing was inquiring about it which is his job!! Imagine if your daughter was touched by someone and the security guard didn't give a shit and didn't even go up to them and ask questions!!
It seems like, if nothing else, he lied to them about where they were going and was trying to steer them over to a different place versus the exits. That alone is extremely iffy and unsettling. Especially knowing how some of these people are. Getting led off to who-knows-where and kept on the property when I'm trying to LEAVE? That's disturbing, honestly.
Edit: Oh, and I want to add…I don't know whether they saw the video of the alleged incident or what, but it seemed like the matter was ultimately dropped without real investigation anyways and the park was already trying to placate them. So it doesn't seem like they were truly serious about investigating the alleged crime, either?
exactly!! I don't know why everyone is mad at the security, he didn't do a damn thing wrong!
@@AhsokaJackson I think they did look at the video but in order for them to look at the camera they couldn't record, I guess they didn't think to record them looking at the footage on their phone or something, and I think the security was within his right to derail a suspected sexual preditor, who lied about never being at the scene of the crime and was trying to flee the property instead of cooperating so they could further investigate. if my daughter was assaulted and the suspect was asking for the exit to flee, I wouldn't tell them either, I don't think any of us would tbh... again the man was just do his job to the best of his ability...
@@toriawilliams7903 wahmen. Excuses, excuses
@@haabat1342 lmao if you say so hun, do you boo boo😅
People should be charged with crimes for calling the cops with false accusations.
They need to start bring lawsuits against people who falsely accuse. Keep them held up in court forever for the mess they create.
There needs to be a law about false accusations. Its the only way to help stop this. Its not up to you to prove your innocence, is up to them to prove your guilt.
There is a law in every state. Sometimes it falls under "false reports" which is a general law that says you cannot report a crime to a law enforcement officer knowing the crime did not happen. The problem is that it is hard to prove majority of the time as it boils to down to "he said, she said."
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Why didn't the security tell those girls to stick around in case they were lying?
They were probably at the security office. I remember a guy punching a random kid at a park once and security grabbed me and my friends so the victim could clear us.
Personally I’ve always wondered why don’t false accusers get punished. My guess is it’s probably pretty difficult to show that the accuser purposely lied so accusing them and taking legal action is a big ask without undeniable proof. There’s numerous cases of R victims pointing out innocent guys only for them to be proven innocent later. The victim can always say they were in such a state that they were mistaken. There’s not a lot of prosecutors jumping at the chance to go after said victim.
I think he was going to have them meet the accused at the front?
How dare you expect any agency whatsoever from any woman, ever?
@@WhatTheCinnamonToastFck Relax, the women were apparently at the security office.
@@samiam2088 How dare you make a whamyn wait in an office to explain herself and her unhinged accusations? You are all fucking bigots
Let me say that I am so glad for cameras nowadays because imagine back in the day when there was no cameras how many people were sent to jail for false accusations! 🤦♀️
Its crazy bc people really don’t know how to admit they’re wrong… that security guard knew that was complete bullshit and his arrogance lead him to bother them all the way to the exit. Arrogance and boredom are deadly combinations.
i can guarantee if the three of them were in a secluded area dan and the other guards would of mained or killed them his rage over a accusation and hide the evidence...we know this happens to men and has for decades in america...its fucked up men need to literally keep all their texts, emails, and video tape encounters just to prove their innocence...
Well honestly I do think his build may very well spell steroid use so that doesn't help.
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You mean just like that youtube guy told the police they "talked to someone at the ride"? What happened was that they went to purposefully annoy strangers and film it, those strangers decided to get back at them by a false accusation. And then everyone was power tripping and excalating the situation.
Hard to tell 100% and after rewatching he didn't accuse them of anything. Rather it was suspicion but not a confirmation. And it's not arrogance, their job is security which is to ensure safety.
The cops should’ve reviewed the footage to conclude the accusation was false. Then they should’ve gone to the accusers and ask them if they’d like to file charges for the accusation. Then arrest the accusers for filing a false police report. Case closed.
technically the security company were the ones to contact the police, there was no police report filed by the accuser, but being banned from the park would impute criminality to the accused as well as be defamatory imo...I would sue the company for endangering my reputation and acting too hastily without investigating properly first.
Isn't that entrapment or something? Not meant to be rhetorical, I'm genuinely asking.
@@Novem2244 entrapment is when a government agent tricks you into committing a crime to secure a prosecution.
@@Novem2244 No cuz entrapment is goading someone into knowingly committing a crime so you can arrest them. If a cop walked up and asked someone "are you selling heroin?" And the guy said yes and was arrested when they found heroin on them, that's not entrapment. If a cop walked up and said "hey I got heroin in my car you should buy it from me and flip it for cash" and then arrested the guy when they did all that, that's entrapment.
@@mello6311 ohhhhh ok, thank you for explaining
Sadly, this is not the first-time security has been crap. Anime Expo had horrible security. Someone got something from a content creator for free and the guard not only accused the customer of stealing but also hurt the customer and damaged the item among other horror stories.
the accuser should remain on the premises to substantiate her claims
That's messed up. I hope the content creator was able to defend the attendee. The damaged item should also be replaced in some fashion.
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Was this with Evan?
It’s generally not the best job. Often doesn’t pay great and you’re likely to constantly get shit on. You also have almost zero authority to do your job, which often ends up just being there to witness something and Inform police
Here's what is messed up - the security guy should not be involved in the police investigation
Those females be held accountable.
It’s called “female privilege”… they will never be held accountable
Its so scary how people can get away with false allegations. if he didnt have a camera it might have not ended that way
not people, women
@@dradfulboss Sadly you are correct...
Women are treated with kid gloves when it comes to false accusations. You'll be lucky, no bullshit, not an exaggeration, lucky if a judge treats her false accusations as hostile. The prosecutors definitely won't and their lawyers will use anything they can to drum up a story. In almost any scenario, you'll be seen as responsible for not making sure she felt safe enough to not make her want to falsely accuse you.
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