Tweek is one of the few players where if I see runs into Leo in his bracket, I just know it’s joever. What once was Leo’s Blessing is now one of his demons.
Tweek always getting clutched on by Leo's joker is legit what prompted him to put the time into Diddy Kong and start maining him, because it's such a tough matchup for joker and the rest of Leo's characters. His Diddy was literally born to be the leo killer.
@ nobody does that time is over everyone has gotten better and have caught up to Leo or surpassed he’s not a bad player is just players have learned what it takes to win and not choke
Tweeks turning into that player where he always beats your favorite player, but always loses to the ones you really want him to beat 😂 wish he’d beat Miya acola hurt instead of always beating Leo 😢
@@Arilinity Tweek is probably one of the best NA players against Japan. Hes undefeated vs Ken/Shuton, only has lost to Asimo once and was 1-0 vs Snow, TamaP, and Zackray in 2024. It’s really just the top dogs like Miya/acola/hurt that give him trouble but you can say that about most players
@DVGN12 in that case, those three are just monsters to handle for the rest. I sometimes pray that my favorite pros can a win a match. Sometimes someone like riddles, spargo, leo, and such.
SPOILER WARNING: Honestly, Leo played great here. He took Tweek to last stock every single game, and most of them were last hit scenarios. I think he just needs to VOD review just a bit, the same way he did to beat Gluto at the Luminosity invitational after having an insane lose streak against him. Either way, this was a banger set, and Tweek worked hard to get that W. GG'S to both players! But as a Leo fan, i hope to see him win the next time 😎
You could see Leo adapting as it went on. By games 3 and 4 he was playing much more confident around banana, even catching it and using it himself several times. Just got a bit too lax in his recoveries and lost for it after a solid lead game four. If he had closed out game four I think it’s likely he won game five
@101academics he's beaten every other Diddy he's fought with Joker, it's specifically just Tweek's Diddy. He even 3-0'd Ryuoh's Diddy last year at delta and he's the best Diddy in Japan. I think he just needs to study Tweek's specific habits
Not really. As a Joker main, Diddy is one of the most fun and even MUs because Diddy actually plays Neutral and is gimpable by Joker gun and other edgeguards. Diddy also lack killpower at times and Joker is quite heavy, when you reading their options Joker can be pretty oppressive vs Diddy. Tweek just outplayed him. A much worse MU for Joker is ROB because ROB can consistently zone you out and even gimp your recovery, but most ROB pro players aren't that good or choke against him.
@@Juriismywife Hey, wanna know what happened the last time a ROB tried to edgeguard Leo? Also, I don't think rob beats joker, maybe even at best. The only time he can really edgeguard joker is when he has no jump or when he's recovering low with arsene. Also, gun can only gimp diddy when he has no resources, because otherwise he can just monkey flip safely on stage
I agree with Juri. Joker does pretty well against characters that actually play the game like Palutena, Lucina, Wolf. ROB is way more of an issue, but just shows how the player carries a character. Tweek makes Diddy look unstoppable, but every other Diddy would get farmed in his place.
As far as game sense goes, Leo doesn't lose to anyone asides maybe Gluto. But in any neutral-based MU, nines times out of ten Diddy is to be favoured. I think he needs to start cheesing again. Imo, go MK next time. Just for the unfamiliarity and unexpectedness of the MU. Cheese Tweek, get a dub on the table and stop the bleeding. I doubt it would work again, so after that... Man, maybe it's time to bring out the Roy. Or start CAMPING as Joker.
I mean yeah the times he won or almost won with byleth he was getting multiple up-b into bair/dair cheese kills and fsmashes but it's not a consistent strategy. If he goes byleth now he gets dumpstered
When he heats up, it's definitely up there. But to me Tweek is more of a slow-based, set-play type of player. He's like Leo. As far as H2H goes it's probably Miya, Light and Kola.
Tweek just spams that banana over and over and over. He ain't shit without it. That's why he couldn't do it with Pokémon trainer, Sephiroth and Wario 😂😂💀
Complaining about hurtbox shift when defending a Joker player is insane. You Leo fans are so delusional and bad at the game. F-Smash or DownSmash would have connected there, but he picked the greedy aerial option.
@@mommypalutena Downsmash wouldn't have killed and F-Smash wouldn't have been fast enough, stop hating just to hate. Diddy was literally close enough to push Joker back, it was a silly hurtbox shift moment and you know that.
Tweeks Diddy is darn near invincible when he starts coming... With that being said i feel like Leo runs into the banana way too often. I think if he hopped around and waited until it was thrown out first before starting anything instead of button mashing into he'd have more opportunities to punish
Watched this live. Man I wanted to see Leo to verse Spargo in grands 🥲. Even if he lost in grands, that matchup feeds families. Good stuff to Tweek tho
They were doing the tweek chant which does sound like boo. Bro there's no way they would boo for Tweek when he's one of the last hopes of tri state to defend the LMBM tri state legacy lmao
Fun fact: this is the third year in a row Tweek and Leo have fought in the first round of top 8 at LMBM, and with Tweek winning 3-1 all three times
Tweek is one of the few players where if I see runs into Leo in his bracket, I just know it’s joever. What once was Leo’s Blessing is now one of his demons.
Tweek’s Diddy kong really just good against Leo’s characters
Tweek always getting clutched on by Leo's joker is legit what prompted him to put the time into Diddy Kong and start maining him, because it's such a tough matchup for joker and the rest of Leo's characters. His Diddy was literally born to be the leo killer.
He was like a frame away from taking it to game 5. It's definitely not as bad as 2023, so I wouldn't say it's joever when leo runs into him
Leo doesn't have a Tweek problem, he has a Diddy problem. He's always struggled against Diddy Kongs.
@@101academics Name a single time leo has lost to a diddy kong not named tweek
Leo’s last win against tweek is riptide 2021😢😢
Cry bout it
That second to last set in winners finals was also the last time Tweek got reverse 3-0'd by him. Tweek just doesn't lose to game 4 Leo anymore
@ nobody does that time is over everyone has gotten better and have caught up to Leo or surpassed he’s not a bad player is just players have learned what it takes to win and not choke
@@ITS_NIN10DOUGHBOY_YT I mean homie put a crying emoji in the comment to be fair
@@ITS_NIN10DOUGHBOY_YTI can just tell you a nin-toddler by your name
The all time classic of ultimate
8:00 Tweek is a SMOOTH operator.
Tweeks turning into that player where he always beats your favorite player, but always loses to the ones you really want him to beat 😂 wish he’d beat Miya acola hurt instead of always beating Leo 😢
I wish this was the top comment, because it EXACTLY feels like this. Play poorly against Japan, but absolutely dissects the America's
@@Arilinity Tweek is probably one of the best NA players against Japan. Hes undefeated vs Ken/Shuton, only has lost to Asimo once and was 1-0 vs Snow, TamaP, and Zackray in 2024. It’s really just the top dogs like Miya/acola/hurt that give him trouble but you can say that about most players
@DVGN12 in that case, those three are just monsters to handle for the rest. I sometimes pray that my favorite pros can a win a match. Sometimes someone like riddles, spargo, leo, and such.
@@microdocomo Leo whooped cola a few times already lol
To be fair how the heck would you expect to clear out Acola's Steve, it is not even fair for anyone to fight that broken-ass char.
When I think of smash ultimate, these are the two players I think of. Their rivarly will always be peak ultimate to me
Every time these two fight, the match is classic
Makes me happy to not just see this rivalry back but to see Leo WANT it.
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Honestly, Leo played great here. He took Tweek to last stock every single game, and most of them were last hit scenarios. I think he just needs to VOD review just a bit, the same way he did to beat Gluto at the Luminosity invitational after having an insane lose streak against him. Either way, this was a banger set, and Tweek worked hard to get that W. GG'S to both players! But as a Leo fan, i hope to see him win the next time 😎
Maybe Leo needs sword characters to have better range to overcome the bananas. Perhaps Aegis or Corrin.
Almost 50% of the time with top players it comes to down to the last hit. It's not about luck, it's about not choking when that scenario happens.
You could see Leo adapting as it went on. By games 3 and 4 he was playing much more confident around banana, even catching it and using it himself several times. Just got a bit too lax in his recoveries and lost for it after a solid lead game four. If he had closed out game four I think it’s likely he won game five
Tweek isn't the problem. It's Diddy. He struggles against Diddy's.
@101academics he's beaten every other Diddy he's fought with Joker, it's specifically just Tweek's Diddy. He even 3-0'd Ryuoh's Diddy last year at delta and he's the best Diddy in Japan. I think he just needs to study Tweek's specific habits
Every Ultimate set should be Leo vs Tweek shit is just too good
People saying "tweek will always beat Leo" like all games weren't last hit
He’s won the last 6 sets
My bad it’s actually 7 with this set now
Bro leo hasn't beated him since 2021 lmao
Leo has it next time. This was a close set all things considered
damn tweek earned that
Cloud is the only chapter in this tournament that really didn't have a losing matchup.
Cloud mains wont admit that though.
That’s not true…joker,diddy,rob, and sonic. Spargo used different characters against wrath and zomba. Tweek and Leo just didn’t make it to him.
What such a nice fight and for winning 3 years in a row against mkleo, tweek you stood out definitely
Tweek Diddy Kong vs Mkleo joker is like the most hype match ever in smash ultimate
his dk is so great to watch
Now their alltime ultimate setcount is even
Tweek really is Leo’s bracket demon
Punk spiderman commentating is legendary 😂
Well rip watching the vid... on to the next one already know who wins.
Game 4 Tweek
Is this the first time leo used a different joker skin?
What a fantastic set
Down B were so bad. Still great run by the goat
Really hard MU for joker, you have to time everything perfectly, specially down B's
Not really. As a Joker main, Diddy is one of the most fun and even MUs because Diddy actually plays Neutral and is gimpable by Joker gun and other edgeguards. Diddy also lack killpower at times and Joker is quite heavy, when you reading their options Joker can be pretty oppressive vs Diddy.
Tweek just outplayed him.
A much worse MU for Joker is ROB because ROB can consistently zone you out and even gimp your recovery, but most ROB pro players aren't that good or choke against him.
@@Juriismywife Hey, wanna know what happened the last time a ROB tried to edgeguard Leo? Also, I don't think rob beats joker, maybe even at best. The only time he can really edgeguard joker is when he has no jump or when he's recovering low with arsene. Also, gun can only gimp diddy when he has no resources, because otherwise he can just monkey flip safely on stage
@@cooper1431 Bro cooked sparg0 one time and decided to spam down b on everybody
I agree with Juri. Joker does pretty well against characters that actually play the game like Palutena, Lucina, Wolf.
ROB is way more of an issue, but just shows how the player carries a character. Tweek makes Diddy look unstoppable, but every other Diddy would get farmed in his place.
Tweekやばいな。操作精度高すぎるし、これ波乗ってるとき誰も勝てへんのちゃうか。間違いなく世界一のDD使いやし、DDのキャラランクを底上げしてる第一人者。職人の域ですね。
ラストストックの撃墜レースまでいってるからあと1歩だと思うんだけどなぁ〜
その1歩がめちゃくちゃ遠いんだろうけど、leoジョーカーがtweek倒すとこを見たい
Just like good old times 😊
Tweek is now 1 set away from tieing the all time record (currently 12-11 in favor of leo)
This set is my 13th reason
As far as game sense goes, Leo doesn't lose to anyone asides maybe Gluto. But in any neutral-based MU, nines times out of ten Diddy is to be favoured. I think he needs to start cheesing again.
Imo, go MK next time. Just for the unfamiliarity and unexpectedness of the MU. Cheese Tweek, get a dub on the table and stop the bleeding. I doubt it would work again, so after that... Man, maybe it's time to bring out the Roy. Or start CAMPING as Joker.
I mean yeah the times he won or almost won with byleth he was getting multiple up-b into bair/dair cheese kills and fsmashes but it's not a consistent strategy. If he goes byleth now he gets dumpstered
What is the last major Leo has won?
I think like 3 months ago. But no big names were there.
King Con last Feb
@@antmck99 leo didn't win a major 3 months ago. you're probably thinking of a B tier since his last major win was at king con last feb
Tweek has the best h2h combat I’ve ever seen is smash bros. Jesus Christ
No he doesn't
@ Who does?
@tevinwow Gluto. Muteace. Banham. Light
@@fupalover gluto’s hands are nice too. Light beats Tweek but I don’t know, it’s not the same. Can’t explain it
When he heats up, it's definitely up there. But to me Tweek is more of a slow-based, set-play type of player. He's like Leo. As far as H2H goes it's probably Miya, Light and Kola.
Tweek just spams that banana over and over and over. He ain't shit without it. That's why he couldn't do it with Pokémon trainer, Sephiroth and Wario 😂😂💀
but if you close your eyes... 🥹
15:55 this game is so shit LMAO
That's just diddy having no hurtbox and joker up smash having no hitbox. You'd be surprised by how many times people have low profiled that up smash
Complaining about hurtbox shift when defending a Joker player is insane.
You Leo fans are so delusional and bad at the game. F-Smash or DownSmash would have connected there, but he picked the greedy aerial option.
@@mommypalutena Downsmash wouldn't have killed and F-Smash wouldn't have been fast enough, stop hating just to hate. Diddy was literally close enough to push Joker back, it was a silly hurtbox shift moment and you know that.
Tweek is just the undeniable undisputed goat of smash
Leo hasnt beat tweek in a set in 4 years jesus christ
You know Leo is so over when arsen vanishes during Leo’s last stock! Congrats to tweek! He smashed it! 3-1
Those Diddy accusations
Tween cooked so hard in this set
The game 4 missed back throw costed so everything
All of the Leo characters lose to Diddy
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Why can't leo adapt to Tweek camping? Should really use MK.
Tweeks Diddy is darn near invincible when he starts coming... With that being said i feel like Leo runs into the banana way too often. I think if he hopped around and waited until it was thrown out first before starting anything instead of button mashing into he'd have more opportunities to punish
Tweek a demon
今更だけどDD強すぎないw
I think leo can camp more it seems
Tweek!
Chipolata
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GOATWEEK IS THE TRUE GOAT OF ULT!
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Nah Leo’s better idc if he lose
Monkey>Lion
And that’s why tweek ranked 10th simply invalidates the entire ranking system. Mkleo should not be over him at all
Does hurt winning smash awesome and beating acola twice mean he should be above acola in the rankings? Cause this is your logic
@ that’s not all. Tweek also placed very high in everything he went to. Not a single bad run
stats say otherwise
2nd
Leo fans coping hard
Mf all the leo fans in the comments are accepting the loss, you're spreading toxicity for no goddamn reason 🤦♀️
yean ngl bro nobodys coping
@@dhans9662 Says the due who used the 'mf' acronym, hypocrite much?
@@cool_cat104 Well there's a reason why you aren't seeing all the MKsimps coming out, because they don't have anything to talk about, too busy coping.
@@lando1296 looks like lil bro learned the american way to express today, chill dude it's a game, GGS!
Watched this live. Man I wanted to see Leo to verse Spargo in grands 🥲. Even if he lost in grands, that matchup feeds families. Good stuff to Tweek tho
the crowd booing when tweek won 😭😭😭😭😭 its over for ur goat move on
They were doing the tweek chant which does sound like boo. Bro there's no way they would boo for Tweek when he's one of the last hopes of tri state to defend the LMBM tri state legacy lmao
That wasn't booing lol
That "booing" is a celebration chant for tweek wins hahaha
first lol
But Tweeks ranked 10... oooooooook Luminosity
Tweek's only blessing in the top 10 is Leo. Leo's blessing is last year's no. 1 (spargo)