This nightmare scene instantly became one of my favourite scenes of all time. I can't say that about a lot of films these days. I'm glad Mysterio's superpower is literal CGI.
@@leonardpanergo7066 now what if...what if...*hits blunt*... the ending of Spider-Man: Far From Home was also an illusion and the movie is still going on? Mysterio is just waiting.
Some objects are CG to eliminate camera reflections or to create reflections of things that "aren't there", some are beacuse of safety and some are there to enhance particle simulations like smoke. I don't think there is too much CGI. Besides, the trippy scene is meant to look a bit off, because we "know" that it is Mysterio's doing, and then when it gets more real... boom, plot twist, it's still an illusion.
I thought I would add to this as reading the comments there's alot of the same stuff. I worked on the film at Framestore earlier this year. 1) why is the Audi car cg? A) basically the original Audi was an older version of the car.. Audi then did a facelift version of the car that they wanted to see in the film.. they pay some bills and write some cheques so in it goes. The cg car was built and tracked to the original plate and replaced the original footage of the car. It also provided a nice interaction point for spidey as he opened the door.. and also provided good bounce light and reflections for spidey further integrating him into final shot. 2) why does spidey look so cg.. why not use actors A) if you saw Tom Holland in the suit you would actually laugh.. on his own he's quite slender and wirey but still toned and muscular. In a suit with zips up his back and the fabric folding an awful lot around his joints and shoulders it just looks very strange and like a man in a suit and laughable. With cg the result is arguably better providing a char closer to what we expect to see of a photoreal comic book.. not that of a person in a suit. Also the illusion really does jump if they cut from a cg acrobatic Spiderman to a person in a suit.. you really do see the cut and get pulled out of the moment. To add.. alot of the shots where we see Tom Holland's head in the costume.. the whole thing is cg as opposed to him stood there in the suit. They pretty much replace all but his head. But if you saw the raw plate with him stood in costume it feels dorky.. almost like a bad "kickass" suit. This 100 crazed sequence came into the studio halfway through production.. literally 3 to 4 months from the end.. Framestore team had to produce 100 shots.. many of them changed and adjusted as time went on. For example when I started on the shot there was about 12 shots that showed spidey getting shot.. then falling onto a web where a giant spider tries to attack him. It was quite nightmarish. Another scene featured spidey getting caught in bubbles and drowning in a pile of Mysterio glass heads.. another shot showed him tumbling across a ribbon like floor.. alot of this stuff was heavily inspired by the "drunk" scene from the original animated dumbo! Many of the shots changed and were adjusted right up until the final weeks to ensure the story flowed through the shots whilst at the same time spatially remaining similar to what spidey was experiencing in the real world.. that alone was a challenge for the team. Hope this helps explain some bits for people. I've probably missed some stuff but hopefully it shows that alot more goes on behind what you guys initially see 👍🏽
I love how millions have seen the film but only a handful of people have seen the creators talk about it on TH-cam. I have a weird question. Is it possible for the render to change colours however you wanted? i.e.would you be able to make it orange smoke instead of green? I've always wondered how easy it is to do something massive to the project with the smallest of changes to the settings.
@@KiLLJoYTH-cam I think that colour changing part is done in the compositing stage, they'd probably use some kind of "pass" to dynamically change the colour or a simple hue/saturation/value effect or node would be enough without re-rendering the shot.
@@peterzettl7963 Having the suit there is a much better reference, plus they'd have to have the mocap tracking cameras on every stage. It depends on the shot/set/time to set up/planning and loads of stuff. But yeah the CG people have a really good reference of what the suit should look like on that set.
Well, to be fair this scene is supposed to be CGI even inside of the movie. But still you are right Marvel really likes to use CGI a little too much at times.
Dude doctor strange movie used more visual effects than far from home just watch doctor strange behind cgi scenes they did a lot more hard work than this movie
At least Dr. Strange isn’t cg. Spidey for the most part of the movie is cgi. If I was Tom I’d be pissed with having to wear a mo cap suit instead of the spidey suit.
Well it’s a film with a villain who uses drones to project images. They can’t do much practical with him. The rest of the film is not entirely CGI, either. A lot of the locations were real, and some of the set pieces were practically made. For instance, the set piece during the fight with Molten-Man was practical, even if Molten-Man wasn’t.
It truly is amazing what can be done with CGI now. Until seeing this, I never knew certain scenes were fully CGI (the train, the warehouse with drones, landing and walking up to Fury's vehicle). I've also loved Framestore's work in movies and short films. They know how to take the CGI to utmost realism.
So, I'm going to say that I had all but gave up on being astonished by vfx.. And then this happened.. absolutely brilliant scene and execution. Bravo..
2:36 i like how the broken statues are of vision, black widow, iron man and captain america, but the head is still attatched on cap's statue seeing as he technically isn't dead yet
2:00 how come i never realised Mysterio's head is the moon it's like when doctor strange gets the time stone in infinity war - it's one of the stars in the background
it’s cool to see Marvel are now taking FanArts and make them to a part of Mysterio’s illusion so that makes the fan are a part of Mysterio’s team and illusion maker
There's a moment during this setpiece where I think the camera zooms in on Iron-Man's helmet with spiders crawling on top of it, we zoom in really close to the spider's head revealing its eyes which then transition into an army of Mysterios.
Good job on the CGI guys, those Mysterio battles blew me away in Cinema! Now, leaving that aside, I'm very curious on why did the sequence from 0:40 - 0:50 have to be CG.
I really like a lot of the effects in this movie. I'm only assuming, but I'd hope they'd given some artistic freedoms when it came to Mysterio's drone projections
i can understand using CGI for things like swinging and when he is on top of the train, but why use it for when he frightens the blonde lady and then gets in a car. Surely it would have been easier to just get a car from Audi rather than create one in CGI.
Lol at the 6 Minecraft Builders who disliked this video. Whatever, losers - there’s some bona fide best-of-the-best-in-the-world people showing off their absolute state-of-the-art artistry that they clearly poured their collective heart, soul & talent into to entertain us & you’re like “dislike” - click. Way to go Framestore, you absolutely killed it with Far From Home. This sequence is up their with the VFX in Dr Strange. Just blows my mind what you guys can do. 👏👏👏
While I think the CG was mostly well done, there is so much of it that sometimes elements stand out because not enough time was spent on them. A lot of the fight scenes had a CG feel to half of the shots. There needs to be live action surrounding cg scenes or it just becomes really "detached"
0.43 - 0.49 kudos for the VFX people that made this shot but is there a reason why this scene had to be done using CGI rather than a real car and Tom Holland?
One of the Marvel benefits of using CGI is that it can hide moments in the film's narrative. 3D animation artists are likely to know as much about the entire story as the writer and the director.
Amazing but I still have a problem buying normal human movement like in 0:40 why's that does it has to do with framerate or maybe motion capture isn't capturing everything?
This nightmare scene instantly became one of my favourite scenes of all time. I can't say that about a lot of films these days. I'm glad Mysterio's superpower is literal CGI.
The cool part about Mysterio's illusions is that even if you can see that they are CGI, they're fake even in the fiction, so it's perfectly cool.
Yeah, if anything it actually immerses you more into the movie
@@leonardpanergo7066 now what if...what if...*hits blunt*... the ending of Spider-Man: Far From Home was also an illusion and the movie is still going on? Mysterio is just waiting.
@@CaptainIglo or what if Mysterio isn't a man... but an alien, from the future?
@@jake100xx bruv
HiTop: If only the fake illusions were practical
"I never realised there was this much CGI in the whole galaxy."
rodimus184 the movie itself is made by mysterio.
There’s some CGI that weren’t really obliged
@@auzeph2132 yeah like the place and water
@@auzeph2132 Like the suit in some scenes...
th-cam.com/video/CozA4dpznSo/w-d-xo.html
Cinematic vfx🤘💥
Some objects are CG to eliminate camera reflections or to create reflections of things that "aren't there", some are beacuse of safety and some are there to enhance particle simulations like smoke. I don't think there is too much CGI. Besides, the trippy scene is meant to look a bit off, because we "know" that it is Mysterio's doing, and then when it gets more real... boom, plot twist, it's still an illusion.
I dont think you know whats real peter
*Y O U N E E D T O W A K E U P !*
You won't its a leap of faith
I thought I would add to this as reading the comments there's alot of the same stuff. I worked on the film at Framestore earlier this year.
1) why is the Audi car cg?
A) basically the original Audi was an older version of the car.. Audi then did a facelift version of the car that they wanted to see in the film.. they pay some bills and write some cheques so in it goes. The cg car was built and tracked to the original plate and replaced the original footage of the car. It also provided a nice interaction point for spidey as he opened the door.. and also provided good bounce light and reflections for spidey further integrating him into final shot.
2) why does spidey look so cg.. why not use actors
A) if you saw Tom Holland in the suit you would actually laugh.. on his own he's quite slender and wirey but still toned and muscular. In a suit with zips up his back and the fabric folding an awful lot around his joints and shoulders it just looks very strange and like a man in a suit and laughable.
With cg the result is arguably better providing a char closer to what we expect to see of a photoreal comic book.. not that of a person in a suit. Also the illusion really does jump if they cut from a cg acrobatic Spiderman to a person in a suit.. you really do see the cut and get pulled out of the moment.
To add.. alot of the shots where we see Tom Holland's head in the costume.. the whole thing is cg as opposed to him stood there in the suit. They pretty much replace all but his head. But if you saw the raw plate with him stood in costume it feels dorky.. almost like a bad "kickass" suit.
This 100 crazed sequence came into the studio halfway through production.. literally 3 to 4 months from the end.. Framestore team had to produce 100 shots.. many of them changed and adjusted as time went on. For example when I started on the shot there was about 12 shots that showed spidey getting shot.. then falling onto a web where a giant spider tries to attack him. It was quite nightmarish.
Another scene featured spidey getting caught in bubbles and drowning in a pile of Mysterio glass heads.. another shot showed him tumbling across a ribbon like floor.. alot of this stuff was heavily inspired by the "drunk" scene from the original animated dumbo!
Many of the shots changed and were adjusted right up until the final weeks to ensure the story flowed through the shots whilst at the same time spatially remaining similar to what spidey was experiencing in the real world.. that alone was a challenge for the team.
Hope this helps explain some bits for people. I've probably missed some stuff but hopefully it shows that alot more goes on behind what you guys initially see 👍🏽
If true very cool
for 2: then why’d u not use a MoCap suit right away? U would have to hand animate less and definitely track less
I love how millions have seen the film but only a handful of people have seen the creators talk about it on TH-cam.
I have a weird question. Is it possible for the render to change colours however you wanted? i.e.would you be able to make it orange smoke instead of green? I've always wondered how easy it is to do something massive to the project with the smallest of changes to the settings.
@@KiLLJoYTH-cam I think that colour changing part is done in the compositing stage, they'd probably use some kind of "pass" to dynamically change the colour or a simple hue/saturation/value effect or node would be enough without re-rendering the shot.
@@peterzettl7963 Having the suit there is a much better reference, plus they'd have to have the mocap tracking cameras on every stage. It depends on the shot/set/time to set up/planning and loads of stuff. But yeah the CG people have a really good reference of what the suit should look like on that set.
I love that CG is a main theme in the movie. That's so creative and a nice way to modernize a comic book villain that used magic. I love this movie.
The CGI in this movie is so good, it's a big step up from Homecoming
Had a total blast working on various parts of that illusion battle was hard but turned out so cool 👍🏽
Still pretty lame to my eyes. Wish there was more practical suit stuff in a Spiderman movie haha
@@anthonymcgrath so, is MJ in 2:01 CG? Or just Mysterio?
If just Mysterio, then what was the MJ clay model for?
@@sharif47 I guess reference?
anthony mcgrath No way! Did you use Autodesk Maya? How hard was creating the animations on top of mocap?
So it's an animation with some live action parts. Like opposite Looney Tunes movie.
2019 movies in a nutshell
When I first read this I was pissed at you but then I saw the reel and goddamn you’re right!
@@kynmv2178 ikr, and I dont mean it the bad way. All the work takes a lot of talent, time and dedication. And it just looks so awesome.
Like space jam
Well, to be fair this scene is supposed to be CGI even inside of the movie. But still you are right Marvel really likes to use CGI a little too much at times.
Dr Strange: 70% special effects
Spiderman FFH: hold my spider tingle
Visual effects*
Peter tingle
Dude doctor strange movie used more visual effects than far from home just watch doctor strange behind cgi scenes they did a lot more hard work than this movie
An Apple User obviously I’m just making a joke dude
At least Dr. Strange isn’t cg. Spidey for the most part of the movie is cgi. If I was Tom I’d be pissed with having to wear a mo cap suit instead of the spidey suit.
I like how at 3:04 they just tell you that you've been completely tricked into think anything was real with the "100% CG" text lmao
Everything you think is real isn’t lmao GG frame store.
ikr omg
Even the damn car
Marvel movie CGI breakdown:
Everything was CGI
Well it’s a film with a villain who uses drones to project images. They can’t do much practical with him. The rest of the film is not entirely CGI, either. A lot of the locations were real, and some of the set pieces were practically made. For instance, the set piece during the fight with Molten-Man was practical, even if Molten-Man wasn’t.
I agree with The1TheOnlyG2. The iron man suit in Iron Man 2008 was practical.
Mohd Amerul Aidil 😢
@Mohd Amerul Aidil at least justice league actually made the costumes lmfao
Ruben Herrera so did Far From Home. There are physical versions of the Stark suit, shield suit, and new suit used in the film.
Woow!
VFX artists don’t get paid enough 😂
They average $67,000. I'd say that's pretty good if you ask me
@@steVENOM Jesus... Really?
@@steVENOM really dude?
Yeah, That's True!
@@steVENOM they should get like 150k
1:19 Timing was perfect XD
@Bobby TheAnt also at 2:40-2:50
omg so true XD
It truly is amazing what can be done with CGI now. Until seeing this, I never knew certain scenes were fully CGI (the train, the warehouse with drones, landing and walking up to Fury's vehicle). I've also loved Framestore's work in movies and short films. They know how to take the CGI to utmost realism.
this sequence really stand out in comparison to other Marvel action scenes. you guys rock!
wow, these marvel movies are great animations. I hope they win an oscar for best animated picture.
SRS though they have so much CGI in theme these days, its not a good or a bad thing i guess it just is what it is. I would prefer less
This is one of my favorite moments in the MCU thank you so much for this.
Skitjamo cgi is trash in the mcu they overusing it to much , The amazing spiderman had the best cgi/vfx only the script was trash
This is my all-time favourite vfx breakdown in the world.
The fact that the only thing that's real in this entire scene is MJ blows my mind.
VFX Team: so how much CGI do we want?
Sony: Yes.
One hell of a scene! The graphics was just mysterious as it could get!!! Worth the time people.
Wow! It’s amazing to realize how much was CG, even the parts that wouldn’t seem to require as much CG as was used.
Absolutely incredible work, that sequence might have just been my favorite part of the entire movie and seeing the breakdown is beautiful.
Its crazy to think how many live action movies there are that parts of are just straight up 100% animated nowadays.
so so good. epic job to all the artists at Framestore!
These animation skills are exactly what people three hundred years ago would call 'witchcraft'.
gg
But spider-man suit still looks fake.
well they'd probably call animation in general witchcraft when seeing it for the first time.
@@wego9589 he said animation dumbass
Honestly my favourite part of the film. The effects are astounding, probably why I love Doctor Strange sooooo much
So, I'm going to say that I had all but gave up on being astonished by vfx.. And then this happened.. absolutely brilliant scene and execution.
Bravo..
The concept artists dominated here. Really creative stuff.
2:36 i like how the broken statues are of vision, black widow, iron man and captain america, but the head is still attatched on cap's statue seeing as he technically isn't dead yet
Wtf they make like a whole world beside the actual shot in the scene
Yeah, for point of reference
2:00 how come i never realised Mysterio's head is the moon
it's like when doctor strange gets the time stone in infinity war - it's one of the stars in the background
I love these perspective tricks
Hey stem
@@harshithpabboju it's Grey Trace thank you very much
This is insane!! I’d love to get into VFX for movies someday- this seems like my cup of tea!
The 3D at this scene was unforgettable, me and my friend still talk about the 3D during this scene. So worth it.
the illusion scene was great, it shows Mysterious power in a perfect way.
It is a fitting conclusion to the first major story Arc in the MCU to see a villain using Tony's technology to a fuller extent.
The rendering is so well done 🔥
now I really appreciate the hardwork put into this movie
Aah those illusion scenes with Mysterio were spectacular!
it’s cool to see Marvel are now taking FanArts and make them to a part of Mysterio’s illusion so that makes the fan are a part of Mysterio’s team and illusion maker
This video itself is already amazing
These guys of framework are seriously good
The nightmare scene sequence is amazing.
At this point the entire movie can be made on a computer software.
Wow I had no clue that car Fury was driving was CG but it adds to the illusion of Misterio great video!
Astonishing.
You guys went all out on this one...
Did you actually feel like Mysterio cuz you did his work?
bravo Framestore!!!
This vfx is beyond imagination 👍👍👍👌👌👌👌
The shoot in 1:48 remind me with venom trapped in final battle Spider-Man 3. Only me or you take reference from that ? Amazing, nostalgic 😭
"Cgi breakdown" shows entire movie.
I expected that crazy transition when spider eyes become many of Mysterio's helmets
What are you talking about? When does that happen?
@@Gawillamon in that scene where spidey was fooled
There's a moment during this setpiece where I think the camera zooms in on Iron-Man's helmet with spiders crawling on top of it, we zoom in really close to the spider's head revealing its eyes which then transition into an army of Mysterios.
Good job on the CGI guys, those Mysterio battles blew me away in Cinema! Now, leaving that aside, I'm very curious on why did the sequence from 0:40 - 0:50 have to be CG.
Why not?
Popa Dan Tom probably wasn’t available and it’s easier to use an existing cg model with blocking then spend hours fitting him into a suit
Amazing work!
Incredible work 👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌
Great work.
This is how Marvel's Spider-Man 2 graphics should look like
That was incredible.
Amazing vfx
I really like a lot of the effects in this movie. I'm only assuming, but I'd hope they'd given some artistic freedoms when it came to Mysterio's drone projections
Very impressive, guys.
You guys should make a VR version of this sequence.
The Ironman Zombie is awesome!
Not taking away from any of the amzing work they do, but they have such a beautiful suit made, i wish they would use it more.
Marvels at the point where they might as well make all movies animated
@Eric J ex CUSE me??
Dude just let it go you sound like 5 year old just go watch Cartoon if you feel that way
@@Dcuniverse60 I've let it go. It's been 4 years
You guys are very talented, good work ❤
fav types of video
i can understand using CGI for things like swinging and when he is on top of the train, but why use it for when he frightens the blonde lady and then gets in a car. Surely it would have been easier to just get a car from Audi rather than create one in CGI.
Maybe not, maybe its too easy for them now that they resort to cgi almost always.
I think there was a real car.. but added another model of the car for lighting
Also they needed the car to interect with a cg model and thats is way easier having both of the elements being cgi
probably because it was supposed to be a reshoot but they cgi it instead
Yes lol world has gone crazy :D
Fantastic.
Dude...
That’s so cool.
Amazing, just like spider-man
ME : is this-
REEEEEEEAL?
EDITH GLASSES : YES!
everything starts on a easy to visualize concept, then art starts on the process
That Mysterio fight put even doctor strange to shame
Lol at the 6 Minecraft Builders who disliked this video. Whatever, losers - there’s some bona fide best-of-the-best-in-the-world people showing off their absolute state-of-the-art artistry that they clearly poured their collective heart, soul & talent into to entertain us & you’re like “dislike” - click.
Way to go Framestore, you absolutely killed it with Far From Home. This sequence is up their with the VFX in Dr Strange. Just blows my mind what you guys can do. 👏👏👏
The true power in this movie isn't from Mysterio but the VFX artists
Best movie no cap
Imagine doctor strange vs mysterio
I love Framestore
Good job, good job
While I think the CG was mostly well done, there is so much of it that sometimes elements stand out because not enough time was spent on them. A lot of the fight scenes had a CG feel to half of the shots. There needs to be live action surrounding cg scenes or it just becomes really "detached"
Amazing
the music in this movie is underated
Damn! Mysterio's illusions are nothing compared to the vfx team's illusions
0.43 - 0.49 kudos for the VFX people that made this shot but is there a reason why this scene had to be done using CGI rather than a real car and Tom Holland?
0:43 - 0:49
Timestamps use colons
$$$
without into the spiderman, the scene don't exist
Even the car? well played vfx team
But for what it’s worth, Peter, I really am sorry
🚂
Amazing work!!!!
That was cool
One of the Marvel benefits of using CGI is that it can hide moments in the film's narrative. 3D animation artists are likely to know as much about the entire story as the writer and the director.
How the hell do you find these?
As an animator, one of my dreams would be to work on a Spider-Man film, he's my all-time favourite Avenger :)
0:15 is that the same Spider-man model from contest of champions?!?!😂
I really like this theme it fits spiderman
Amazing but I still have a problem buying normal human movement like in 0:40 why's that does it has to do with framerate or maybe motion capture isn't capturing everything?
I LOVE this videos! It´s Amazing, what´s you can do with PC and some programs... I love this!
Was Marvel Studios responsible? I thought Sony did all of the VFX which made it so good
Cool!