@@dannymorales787 it took a while as a lot of the 3d and animation content I learn from my course wasn't really applicable. I had to go out and self teach myself the essentials and fundamentals again. Which took about an extra 2 years on top of my 2-3 year degree. Now I work in visual effects at MPC one of the largest VFX studios
@@Andrew-lg2wq Thanks for taking your time responding back. I give you mad props for making it at MPC, I graduated last year from a 4 year university and still applying to different studios while trying to keep my demo reel updated. Whats the best way to keep in touch? Anyway to check out your reel?
Yeah; I had no idea that their 'quantum realm suits' were all CGI as well. You really mean to say that something as 'simple' as that couldn't be made with practical effects?
Now THIS is how you do a VFX breakdown! Beautifully put together and fascinating to watch as always, Framestore. You guys are the gold standard at this.
@@iliastsarouchas8997 there could potentially be a movie without the need of actors and actresses. With mo-cap, riggers and animators, all that would be possible for a real heavy budget.
@gargar gooarr Yes, I agree VFX Artists deserve better, but dude, actors and actresses are like the vegetables in a soup. They're the one who gives emotion to the film. Mo-cap may replace their physical presence, but who will put the emotion and heart to the characters? It's hard to convey non-heartfelt emotions, especially when it's melodramatic. Try acting yourself and tell me if it's hard or not.
Honestly, complain about the overuse of CGI all you want, but practically no one realised the suits were CGI until they revealed they were. They've pretty much perfected photorealistic full suits now.
I noticed the CGI suits when I first watched it in the theaters. Sure it's close to perfect but there's still something that makes it look "fake". Nonetheless, this is some of the best CGI I've ever seen
You can mock the CGI all you want, but this is phenomenal. I have so much respect for the team that worked on this. Words cannot describe how amazing/revolutionary this is.
I don't see why people mock it. It's like an art. It allows us to create worlds and creatures that would never be accomplished practically. I'm in awe of this technology
@@siyandavilakazi781 Yeah agreed, I know heaps of people in the digital arts business and have so much respect for them. It's opening up so many opportunities for the future as well, in 20/30 years time, people will look back at this and see how big this really was.
@@i_megaman_i8079 he's supposed to look weird? It's an enormous green rage monster. Sure, now tempered by the intelligence of Banner, but he's supposed to look horribly mutated. That's the point of the Hulk.
@@jbonegw I've read that the suits hadn't been designed yet when they shot the scene. Still seems like a waste of money unless doing them in post is now less expensive than building them for real.
The suits were in a lot of scenes so it makes sense that if the design wasn’t finalized they would go this route. Also agree with you that the cost to add them in during post production would be significant. At least it was in the past maybe not so much nowadays?
@@jbonegw It just seems strange to shoot a portion of the movie without designing the costumes first. I can understand fixing something in post if you realize too late in the game that something doesn't work but in this case, apparently, they just didn't bother to get it for real.
@@sn0wiron lion king cgi is good but the characters do not express themselves limited expression plus i think hulk , thanos , iron man suit, rocket and the battle scene vfx i consider them better
Finding out that the time travel suits weren’t even real was mind-blowing. I had of course assumed that the helmets obviously weren’t. But the suits?! To me that’s one of the most amazing uses of invisible effects in this movie that, ironically, highly visible yet beautiful effects
So basically they dont need humans to act in a film. All the work is done by the best CGI Masters! Respect to these guys. They are underrated. The face are the actors but actually the real heroes are behind the monitors.
It will definitely win the oscar for best visual effects especially after having financially surpassed both Titanic and Avatar, both of which won that Oscar.
That wide shot of Asgard is just environment gold. That's just beautiful. And the entire hangar?! The suits?! I honestly don't care about the budget. It's still crazy how far tech has come that artists can fool people this hardcore. Idk if the hangar being fully CG was just that one shot but even so, even if for that one shot...that's insane. It was just their heads. There heads were real and everything else was CG. Damn, son.
Imagine this. Soon everyone is gonna be a voice actor, as CGI is the only thing being necessary to make a movie, while props and other stuff is there to testify and try out realistic interactions, etc. But when the time comes, soon everyone has enough sounds and everything to just put it in, change and tweak it online or on some program and BOOM, CGI movie only.
My friend works in this company. Hes very private about the CGI he does for movies. He tells me which movies he worked on but not the scenes. Now I see the magic behind his stuff. Cool!
Wow. I'm very impressed that there was CG in places I never expected. It was perfectly seamless, and I would have never thought it wasn't real. Not exactly sure why they needed to create CG suits, but it was perfectly done. Great, great work.
Even watching this at 0.25% you still need to watch it a few times, you see new things each time.....gotta love all who worked on this and infinity, their skills are awesome...well done to you all. 🏆👍🏼😊🍻
It annoys me so much man. I used to look forward to those bonus features so much and now to get the same content I have to rifle through a thousand different youtube channels.
This bugs me so much. I feel like these movies are so successful and so well liked, they could easily have released behind the scenes footage like the Lord of the Rings extended editions.
@@bluejello007 I know right? What sucks is that the DC movies put hours upon hours of deleted footage on their DVD extras. Zack Snyder may have put out a few duds but he made sure to give your money's worth of BTS content.
I've been saying for a long time that the problem with CGI VFX is rarely photorealism anymore, that's achievable, instead the real problem that so often that exposes it as fake is actually the animation, and that we can only go so far before we'd have to bring in some manner of machine learning to provide that extra finesse to reach believabilty. I'm glad to see I'm no longer alone in thinking this.
Damn, watching this again, you guys just had to put the Black Widow/Hulk cute scene right after the scene where Hulk realises Widow's gone. I'm not crying.
Only complaint is that the nano-helmets don't change the lighting on the actors' faces, you can tell something isn't quite right. You'd never notice it in the theater though, only when watching a slowmo breakdown.
This vis effect team did such a great job! I don't see why the directors and VFX supervisor saw it necessary to CGI the whole suits though lol, but this team made it work!
For all the noobs who ask why they didn't get real suits made for then when filming instead of cgi it's the designs hadn't been made by the time of filming. And no they couldn't wait for the designs before filming because these big movies are under hard strain and pressure to film because of the multiple cgi, audio, and other work that needs to be given a good year to work on. Keep in mind filming movies take a good 3 months and a ton of work is still left to do after that.
Bro, we have been waiting since 10 years. Everyone could have waited more than a year. Besides, this movie was gonna be huge, do you really think money couldn't bought time for the suits? They wanted to flex their cgi stuff,that's it.
@Tony Toons First, the CGI suits look incredibly realistic so it all worked out in the end. Second, they couldn't wait a year because that would've wore out the effect Infinity War had on people, which wouldn't have made the movie that high-stakes and exciting.
I wished the suits were real but damn, the attention to detail in their 3D models is... beyond incredible. Wonder what kind of computers could render that stuff considering the limited time they had to make the movie.
One day I am gonna be old and I will tell my grandchildrens how crazy we were back then for the Marvel movies..I hope my comment remains here and after 50 years any marvel movie gets no.1 movie to beat the avengers endgame ...Someone from future comes and read my comment posted 50 years ago..Kids we loved marvel and always will be
These vfx artists deserve more respect!!
Heng Lim exactly! All that hard work and time it took to edit all those scenes, I hope they got paid over time for this and get an Oscar please!
@@flipingboredcritic we normally don't get paid overtime in London
@@Andrew-lg2wq How long did it take for you to get your first job?
@@dannymorales787 it took a while as a lot of the 3d and animation content I learn from my course wasn't really applicable. I had to go out and self teach myself the essentials and fundamentals again. Which took about an extra 2 years on top of my 2-3 year degree. Now I work in visual effects at MPC one of the largest VFX studios
@@Andrew-lg2wq Thanks for taking your time responding back. I give you mad props for making it at MPC, I graduated last year from a 4 year university and still applying to different studios while trying to keep my demo reel updated. Whats the best way to keep in touch? Anyway to check out your reel?
The whole hangar was completely CGI?! Shut the front door!
It was always closed the use the back door
The Quantum suits were completely CGI?! Shut the front door!
The hulk was cgi??
Nils rocket was cgi?! SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!!
Yeah; I had no idea that their 'quantum realm suits' were all CGI as well.
You really mean to say that something as 'simple' as that couldn't be made with practical effects?
Now THIS is how you do a VFX breakdown! Beautifully put together and fascinating to watch as always, Framestore. You guys are the gold standard at this.
IKR, some companies do a breakdown with just the background plate isolated and the cg objects and call it a day
@@blite6106 Thanks so much! We're working on it right now - sorry for the wait but it's a big job! 👍
Super hero vs super villain bowl
I know, right. And they even shut the front door. Very polite!
My mind is blown! The details on the suits when Hawkeye kneels for the baseball glove, damn... pretty amazing. I had no idea the suits were CGI.
@gargar gooarr without the actors they would be no movie
@@iliastsarouchas8997 there could potentially be a movie without the need of actors and actresses. With mo-cap, riggers and animators, all that would be possible for a real heavy budget.
@gargar gooarr Yes, I agree VFX Artists deserve better, but dude, actors and actresses are like the vegetables in a soup. They're the one who gives emotion to the film. Mo-cap may replace their physical presence, but who will put the emotion and heart to the characters? It's hard to convey non-heartfelt emotions, especially when it's melodramatic. Try acting yourself and tell me if it's hard or not.
You don't always need to use dialogue in a film
@gargar gooarr Read my reply above again. I clearly said VFX Artists do deserve better. I just said you belittled actors a bit too much.
Honestly, complain about the overuse of CGI all you want, but practically no one realised the suits were CGI until they revealed they were. They've pretty much perfected photorealistic full suits now.
Yeah , they do nothing , the credit of the movie only goess to vfx ..Marvel studios dont do shit lul
People complain because they only notice the bad stuff, the good stuff doesn't get credit because it's so good you think it's real
Exactly. Watch the show Mindhunter, there are many scenes I had no idea that CG was used or things were removed.
I noticed the CGI suits when I first watched it in the theaters. Sure it's close to perfect but there's still something that makes it look "fake". Nonetheless, this is some of the best CGI I've ever seen
@@jeremynunez1762 The helmet lol
Look at the god damn WRINKLES on Hawkeye's boot. That's insane.
Yeah, I noticed it too. Insane work
There is CGI in this movie that you can't even tell is CGI, like that ENTIRE HANGAR SCENE????
You should check out VFX analyses of Fincher movies. It'll blow your mind. There's completely invisible CGI EVERYWHERE in them.
nope
*_clint where's nat?_*
She went for a nap
You can mock the CGI all you want, but this is phenomenal. I have so much respect for the team that worked on this. Words cannot describe how amazing/revolutionary this is.
I don't see why people mock it. It's like an art. It allows us to create worlds and creatures that would never be accomplished practically. I'm in awe of this technology
@@siyandavilakazi781 Yeah agreed, I know heaps of people in the digital arts business and have so much respect for them. It's opening up so many opportunities for the future as well, in 20/30 years time, people will look back at this and see how big this really was.
I'm blown away by just how much there is, and how so much of it is absolutely perfect.
Wow, they've used Machine Learning to refine the VFX of Professor Hulk.
And it still looks like a potato.
wish DC did that.
@@i_megaman_i8079 yeah okay buddy
But why tho I didn't get it
@@i_megaman_i8079 he's supposed to look weird? It's an enormous green rage monster. Sure, now tempered by the intelligence of Banner, but he's supposed to look horribly mutated. That's the point of the Hulk.
This is so freaking awesome. The suit looks sooo real. You guys are insane. I demand more
IKR. But why would they need to do CGI suits and not just wear real ones? It’s not like the suits did something incredibly special.
@@jbonegw I've read that the suits hadn't been designed yet when they shot the scene. Still seems like a waste of money unless doing them in post is now less expensive than building them for real.
The suits were in a lot of scenes so it makes sense that if the design wasn’t finalized they would go this route. Also agree with you that the cost to add them in during post production would be significant. At least it was in the past maybe not so much nowadays?
@@jbonegw It just seems strange to shoot a portion of the movie without designing the costumes first. I can understand fixing something in post if you realize too late in the game that something doesn't work but in this case, apparently, they just didn't bother to get it for real.
DIGINONProductions who cares they look cool!
The most inspiring VFX work I have ever seen till now. Kudos to the entire team!
This is damn impressive... as always, Good luck for Oscars.
The Lion King would've got it for sure.
@@sn0wiron lion king cgi is good but the characters do not express themselves limited expression plus i think hulk , thanos , iron man suit, rocket and the battle scene vfx i consider them better
@@e65666 how the heck is that a fault of VFX and not direction?
This will be the best movie award
Cause I don't know what I'm gonna do If it doesn't
@@e65666 I do agree that Endgame has some seriously great CGI but the academy would likely give it to their kind of movies. You know the academy.
Every single VFX individual that worked on both Infinity War & Endgame, you have my utmost respect and admiration.
I love how they actually shut the front door at the end there, these effects look excellent!
Finding out that the time travel suits weren’t even real was mind-blowing. I had of course assumed that the helmets obviously weren’t. But the suits?! To me that’s one of the most amazing uses of invisible effects in this movie that, ironically, highly visible yet beautiful effects
you should do a breakdown on the artists low salary
We’ve really come a long way from Spy Kids 3D
Or Speed Racer
Ant Man and The Wasp quantumania entered the chat…
1:34 wrinkles on his left ankle! What an attention to detail that was!!
Saurabh Bhide that’s incredible
its amazing what cloth simultaions can look nowadays!
Damn, I had no idea the suits were digital... Spectacular work guys!
There needs to be a VFX award 🏆
So basically they dont need humans to act in a film. All the work is done by the best CGI Masters! Respect to these guys. They are underrated. The face are the actors but actually the real heroes are behind the monitors.
3:37 lol seeing shrimpy little Ruffalo behind that desk is hilarious
This is pure perfection... I can't even imagine how you could do it better.
Maybe by making a good movie out of all this CGI
@@andreberclet3733 It's better than what you or your whole damn family can make ;)
@@vampirethespiderbatgod9740 omg i'm crying right now...
Those Quantum suits are a real achievement in the CGI world!
Wow! Great effects! Well done Framestore!
I see this as an absolute WIN!
Everyone taking about how great the VFX is, but no ones talking about the Front Door Slam At 4:58
I had to shut the front door so the killer won't come in the house.
It will definitely win the oscar for best visual effects especially after having financially surpassed both Titanic and Avatar, both of which won that Oscar.
Y'all are nuts! Excellent work!
Everybody is CGI at this point. Framestore you devilish mastermind! Those suits alone deserve an oscar!
I always knew the suits were CG but damn! Imagine how hard just making Clints boot wrinkle would be when he picks up the glove, great work dudes.
That wide shot of Asgard is just environment gold. That's just beautiful. And the entire hangar?! The suits?! I honestly don't care about the budget. It's still crazy how far tech has come that artists can fool people this hardcore. Idk if the hangar being fully CG was just that one shot but even so, even if for that one shot...that's insane. It was just their heads. There heads were real and everything else was CG. Damn, son.
Framestore once again revolutionizing visual effects
it's unbelievable that the quantum realm suits are all made of cgi- they look real
Imagine this. Soon everyone is gonna be a voice actor, as CGI is the only thing being necessary to make a movie, while props and other stuff is there to testify and try out realistic interactions, etc. But when the time comes, soon everyone has enough sounds and everything to just put it in, change and tweak it online or on some program and BOOM, CGI movie only.
that's called an animated movie
Gonna take a while to perfect and capture the human form. Especially the face. But man... I bet they’re gonna be close in like two years from now
My friend works in this company. Hes very private about the CGI he does for movies. He tells me which movies he worked on but not the scenes. Now I see the magic behind his stuff. Cool!
Wow. I'm very impressed that there was CG in places I never expected. It was perfectly seamless, and I would have never thought it wasn't real. Not exactly sure why they needed to create CG suits, but it was perfectly done. Great, great work.
DigiFootage FX, in one of interviews vfx producer said that they had no time to make these costumes.
*"Clint wheres nat"*
_Gone reduced to atoms_
Even watching this at 0.25% you still need to watch it a few times, you see new things each time.....gotta love all who worked on this and infinity, their skills are awesome...well done to you all. 🏆👍🏼😊🍻
Deffs going on my vfx porn playlist.
Excellent work
Get help
You need help
Whatever floats your boat I guess
VFX porn as in Addiction. Like food porn. "Porn" dosen't necessarily mean that nowadays"
Please kill me thank you for the explanation I didn’t want to have to.
I didn’t realize the old prototype suit Scott was wearing was cg too. Incredible work!
Jesús Christ, he look just real, those vfx artist are insane.
Those close-ups of CG Hulk look SO GOOD!
When you question what is CGI and then you're learning that it is in a total mind-blowing way, you know you have done a good job.
They just made the suits CG to flex on everybody. Those just look amazing, didn't even notice they were Cg
Sycom yeah, they could of just made physical suits, but they tossed it to the cgi guys. Shows how much Marvel trusts their vfx department.
@@kaseycombs6968 Word is they couldn't get the real suits made in time.
1:50 that looks scary honestly! 😂
Baffles me on how much BTS footage Marvel is willing to give youtube channels but they barely put any of it on their DVD's.
RandomBlackGamer I like that though, they’re helping out TH-cam channels by giving them features found nowhere else.
RandomBlackGamer Well the VFX studios themselves (framestore) usually get to use their stuff for purposes like this, which is really great!
It annoys me so much man. I used to look forward to those bonus features so much and now to get the same content I have to rifle through a thousand different youtube channels.
This bugs me so much. I feel like these movies are so successful and so well liked, they could easily have released behind the scenes footage like the Lord of the Rings extended editions.
@@bluejello007 I know right? What sucks is that the DC movies put hours upon hours of deleted footage on their DVD extras. Zack Snyder may have put out a few duds but he made sure to give your money's worth of BTS content.
2:35: When you fart
2:38: When you fart but this time do a double take to make sure you weren't caught.
clint wheres nat?
THAT SUIT LOOKS ULTRA REALISTIC
I couldn't believe it when I learned that they (time travel suits) were actually CGI
4:56
Hulk: shut the front door
(Someone actually shuts the front door) XD
the amount of detail and work is facinating... well the amount of money you can reap from it is also facinating.
I've been saying for a long time that the problem with CGI VFX is rarely photorealism anymore, that's achievable, instead the real problem that so often that exposes it as fake is actually the animation, and that we can only go so far before we'd have to bring in some manner of machine learning to provide that extra finesse to reach believabilty. I'm glad to see I'm no longer alone in thinking this.
Framestore makes the best VFX breakdown videos!
Hulk walking towards me is the most terrifying and epic thing I've seen this year.
Prof. Hulk: Shut the front door!
Someone: *Shuts Front Door*
nicely compiled the video,
Thats a proper VFX breakdown
Damn, watching this again, you guys just had to put the Black Widow/Hulk cute scene right after the scene where Hulk realises Widow's gone. I'm not crying.
Only complaint is that the nano-helmets don't change the lighting on the actors' faces, you can tell something isn't quite right. You'd never notice it in the theater though, only when watching a slowmo breakdown.
3:16 can we apritiate that "im dying inside rn" smile? XD
I find lots of new VFX scene from this video, thank you.
"Shut the front door!" SFX "door closes" Perfect.
The entire hangar was CGI?!
i knew the suits were but the hangar too? Absolutely amazing work by the VFX teams
This vis effect team did such a great job! I don't see why the directors and VFX supervisor saw it necessary to CGI the whole suits though lol, but this team made it work!
For all the noobs who ask why they didn't get real suits made for then when filming instead of cgi it's the designs hadn't been made by the time of filming. And no they couldn't wait for the designs before filming because these big movies are under hard strain and pressure to film because of the multiple cgi, audio, and other work that needs to be given a good year to work on. Keep in mind filming movies take a good 3 months and a ton of work is still left to do after that.
Bro, we have been waiting since 10 years. Everyone could have waited more than a year. Besides, this movie was gonna be huge, do you really think money couldn't bought time for the suits?
They wanted to flex their cgi stuff,that's it.
...Okay, fine. You got me, haha.
The question is - why didn't they have the costumes ready? smells like a management mistake, that was thrown a lot of money at.
@@aa-to6ws 1. You cant just delay the release of a movie this big.
2. Money cant buy you time.
btw. the CGI suits look great.
@Tony Toons
First, the CGI suits look incredibly realistic so it all worked out in the end.
Second, they couldn't wait a year because that would've wore out the effect Infinity War had on people, which wouldn't have made the movie that high-stakes and exciting.
Wow, I thought the only CGI parts of the suits were the helmets (and Bruce and Rocket, obviously.) That's really impressive.
Smart Hulk is my favorite of the movie! I'm here because y'all did a FANTASTIC job on him.
x2
That feeling when everything is CGI. That's both amazing and pretty damn scary at the same time.
TIME TRAVEL 🔥🔥
This is why I love CGI. None of it would be possible without it.
Crazy awesome!
It was weird to the off-track wobble on the helmets though. I'd think they'd fix that considering everything else was done so well.
The suit still unbelievable. The helmet is the one that giving it away.
Lion king 2019 fans: ThEy’Re CGI, iTs SuPeR hArD tO aNiMaTe EmOtIoNs!!!
Professor Hulk: Allow me to introduce myself.
I don't think you can compare trying animate 'photo-realistic' animals to the Hulk which is a super-human.
Some people doesn't know the differentiate between animated cgi with motion-cap and animated cgi without motion-cap.
Actually, animals don't emote like humans, or at least they don't in a way we humans understand.
If you want to see animals with emotions watch "Mowgli legend of the jungle"
Redwald Cuthberting rocket raccoon?
Shut the front door!
4:59
Now that's cheeky. lol
so long the story and the frame complement each other, that means the CGI worked
Falcon: "Don't say it, don't you say it!"
Hulk: "Clint where's Nat?"
Better then the dvd extra's!!!
The facial and neck animation on hulk is damn impressive!!
Shut the front door
"Hear's a door closing"
good work guys!
This was awesome! Still wanted to see the interaction with the actor like when Rocket comb antman's hair
That muscle thing is very cool.
Rocket is by far my favorite character.
Shut the Front Door! ...Door slams close sound effect! Brilliant! that should have been in the actual movie.
I wished the suits were real but damn, the attention to detail in their 3D models is... beyond incredible. Wonder what kind of computers could render that stuff considering the limited time they had to make the movie.
No one believed me when I heard the suits were mo cap! Now they'll see. THEY'LL ALL SEE!!!
Stunning work. Thank you for your contribution to the greatest film of all time!
One day I am gonna be old and I will tell my grandchildrens how crazy we were back then for the Marvel movies..I hope my comment remains here and after 50 years any marvel movie gets no.1 movie to beat the avengers endgame ...Someone from future comes and read my comment posted 50 years ago..Kids we loved marvel and always will be
Best vfx oscars for endgame
The suits are the most impressive. They're as photo realistic as it gets.
I see this video as an absolute win!
Hulks facial animation is worlds better than gemini man. The mouth movement says it all
You all killed it.Good job.
This is truly remarkable...
Wow, amazing!
Holy hell... they simulated the creases in the foamy material of the time travel suits.
The time suits are *crazy.* A marked improvement from the Black Panther nano suits, which don't really look and feel like real clothing.
"Clint, where's Nat?" 😭
holy crap, this is in another level