Love when all 3 of you are on here together. It’s such a dynamic trio lol You got Matt who is the ultimate hype man and is probably on the limitless pill David who is always chill, laid back, and cathartic with his answers Then Nathan who sits right in the middle of the spectrum and steers the topics (and effortlessly cites data while breaking it down for the lay person).
Excited for everything Asics, Saucony, and New Balance are doing right now. And super curious to try the 2024 Mizunos. You guys are awesome - thanks for keeping my runs a lot healthier.
As always, informative and helpful. My fiancé and I train and run marathons together. We’ve had numerous conversations about carbon plated shoes and often fall to the side of, the problems they seem to cause outweigh their benefits. On two occasions my fiancé has experienced quite a bit of hip pain post-marathon, which has not occurred with other shoes. She wore different iterations of the Vaporflys on both occasions. Most recently, I wore the Adizero Adios Pro 3s and my feet were destroyed after the race. I had worn them a few times and thought they were safe. After about mile 18 the pain from the rods was significant and my feet had noticeable swelling after the race. Luckily Running Warehouse accepted my return for store credit! We both have the mindset of not wearing carbon plated (or shoes with carbon rods) in the future. It seems it’s a delicate process of testing a racing shoe to determine race readiness. As you discussed, plated shoes do seem to pose physiological risk. There is no doubt a risk vs reward to them. Nevertheless, great episode. Here is my entry for the Running Warehouse giveaway!
Training for my first marathon in June, I’ve been listening to this podcast for a while now and it’s been asking and answering the right questions. Thanks guys 10/10
72 y.o here and the plated /rocker allows me to continue running. The forefoot rocker is a HUGE benefit after 50 years of long distance racing and training. And track work!! But feet and ankles really like supershoes. 5 days a week running. Have had to work on hip/upper leg/glute strength. PT exercises, physio etc. More v4 is an exception. I am talking endorphin pro/ speed, NB SC Elite and trainer, Alphafly, AsicsMagic speed (v1 only). Adios pro 3, Tecumie Sen and Adizero pro (not adios pro) But no treadmill! Too much opposing forces: plate vs tread belt direction movement.
Treadmill: I can train more by shifting some body weight to the treadmill "arms" and decreased pounding: just 1-2 days week. Run on bike path next to my house 3-4 days a,week, mountains in summertime.
Great discussion, and very timely! I just experienced a calf strain last week and this was super helpful. I love the accessible explanations of how muscles and tendons work and how we can test those things at home.
I love this podcast!! So informative. I’m excited about the Hoka Rocket X 2 and the road version.. they just happen to make my feet happy!! Thank you for your podcasts ..😊
Here for the running content obviously, but gladly partaking in the giveaway. Loved this episode. Been preaching this to my peers for ages. Train in trainers, adapt, race in fast shoes. We get so caught up in sexy workouts and times and strava. "Back in the day" flats and spikes were so special because you ONLY used them for races or one tuneup workout. Besides the physiological stuff, the "specialness" of racing shoes is gone when we use them too much. Only wear the special shoes and the special kit and the lucky socks, etc etc on race day.
I'd like to enter the running warehouse competition!! Love you insights. You guys bring so much knowledge to runners and your passion for running shows Thank you, thank you :)
I like your videos but it would be much more helpful if you would state how you all run. Why not when you give an impression say if you are a forefoot , midfoot or heelstriker? That makes a big big difference. You could even go further and show where you all normally wear off the shoes. That would give a much better idea to the viewers.
I have been loving the Asics gel nimbus 25 as my every day trainer, but I am super excited about trying Saucony endorphins as my next trainer! Love the pod keep doing what you're doing!
Always enjoy the podcast and videos! Great to hear your thoughts on the Asics Metaspeed Sky/Edge as I've been looking for a new race shoe. The prospect of a Superblast 2 in 2024 is what I'm most excited about, but now Hoka has gone and released multiple shoes I didn't see coming (Cielo X1 and Skyward X) on top of the promised Mach X2. The shoes just keep coming, so I'll need ya'll to keep helping me figure out what I want to buy! Keep up the great work.
i'm excited for the new metaspeeds, just trying to figure out whether the edge or sky will be better for me - would love to hear more about that choice
Thanks for this helpful content. I am running my first marathon this November and is considering buying a carbon plated shoes but not know how to incorporate it in a training
I enjoyed hearing your perspective about training in super shoes. I prefer to keep a rotation of typical daily trainers and super trainers (Endorphin Speed 3) to switch up the requirements on my feet
Things to worry bout before shoes : sleep, eating healthy, training errors. Shoes aren’t high on the list of elite athletes, I think everyday runners get caught up in the marketing and hype. Just focus on the other stuff and you will run well. Super shoes are bonus
I'm excited about the Nike Alphafly 3. Get a chance to demo them and the Vaporfly 3 in a couple weeks. I would go with Tracksmith if I had to be exclusive for apparel. I love their merino tops in the winter (just wore one this morning).
I can't wait for the full LSP Adidas Adios 9! I have and love Boston 10, and I'm looking forward to trying a lower stack of pure LSP without rods. I also love Topo's Cyclone 2 (can you see a theme here? Whatever DOR love, I buy and turn out loving as well!), so I'm looking forward to trying their higher stack PEBAX shoe (the Specter 2, if I'm remembering correctly?) coming out this year. It'll work better for me over longer distances than the Cyclone 2.
I was excited about the New Balance FuelCell SuperComp Elite v4 and I got them and it exceeded my expectations.. now I’m about to grab the companion trainer the Rebel v4! But I’d LOVE to grab a pair of Hoka Cielo X1 for sure.. just not in the budget right now.
I have a great shoe rotation and am excited when I wear certain shoes for each run. Especially my max cushion because I only wear those after knowing that I put in a hard work out.
Most excited for the Novablast 4 or Endorphin Speed 4! Previous shoe models were recommended to me by Dr. Brown and I’ve loved them thus far! Thanks for broadening my horizons beyond just Brooks :)
Hey, Chris! Congratulations, you are our Week 1 winner of the giveaway!! Send us an email at doctorsofrunning@gmail.com so we can send you the giftcard. :)
I'm most excited for the Asics Metaspeed Sky Paris. I typically haven't fared well with carbon fiber plates, but I'm hoping with the new foam and the flatter plate, it will work for me. If not I may be visit David at physical therapy here in Santa Barbara to get fixed.
I’d go with rabbit also, price is high but quality is there. Also stoked to get my hands on the endorphin pro 4! Cant wait for the DOR review of it either
I’m fortunate to be able to try a bunch of different shoes, both plated and non-plated. I’ve made it a point to use them solely for big workouts, and uptempo long runs. Almost all of my long runs incorporate some sort of faster paces for my next goal race. I find it’s been the biggest improvement in my fitness doing so since it’s combining the higher mileage plus added intensity without going too far and affect recovery. I supplement these workouts with plenty of very very easy runs. Cheers
Really looking forward to the metaspeed sky/edge! Wondering about the slightly higher medial arch - I tried on a metaspeed edge and i can feel it on my left foot. Does that mean it’s a no go already, or is it still worth checking the comfort on a run before making a call?
I'd love to enter the RW giveaway. I'd probably end up using it to pickup some shoes on the clearance cause I'm a bit cheap like that at the moment. 😂 But man those Metaspeed Paris shoes look really nice.
Hard to beat Rabbit apparel! I’d definitely go with them. And I could definitely use a running warehouse gift card to do so 😉 I’d like to enter the giveaway. Thanks guys!
Totally agree that our bodies are very adaptable but it takes time for us to adapt- I have the New Balance Rebel v4 and Hoka Mach 6 on my radar to strengthen my legs for my next race
Hopefully the laces in the Metaspeed Sky Paris is better. That was my only gripe in the Sky 1. I swapped it with the ones from Newton and now they are perfect (to me)! Also entering the giveaway!
Great episode. I believe in super shoes if you run a fast enough pace and your body can handle the added stress. My first and only super shoe is the Endorphin Pro (v1). The Pro 3, and good training, helped me qualify for the venerable blue coral at the Gate River Run 15k, where I won a top 10% hat, not easy at my age. Also, regarding discounts, Nike, Adidas, and others offer discounts for military, first responders, and others, so check into that. Best to shop at your local small business run store though, as long as they have knowledgeable staff.
I rotate between like 6 shoes. Some carbon plated, some nylon plated, some max cushion, some minimal, and different drops in hope that it is better for me in the long run... overall newbie runner though only been doing it for almost a year and am now 32.
I'm really looking forward to the Rebel 4. I love my super shoes, but there is just something about the Rebel Series. I guess I'll toss in the next versions of the TectonX as well. It's a favorite of mine on the trails.
I’m excited for Saucony endorphin pro 4. Do I need to participate in a race to buy super shoes? I'm thinking about signing up for my first HM race for $130 or use that money towards a super shoe.
I’ve only had one test run in the Edge Paris but it feels so much better than the Metaspeed Sky+. The Sky+ was a fast shoe but it was firm and not easy on the legs. Loving the spoon shaped plate and softer foam on the Edge Paris.
Lol - timing! Calf - yep! Just strained mine, most likely due to a brutal cross-country skate skiing session on a course that was too challenging for my skill level and thus a few good crashes :-D. Interestingly self palpating I feel it was potentially Soleus.. Gave it a week off running, thought it felt ok, yeah nah, so damaged it again - doh! fortunately not as bad as the first time but another week off running, finally walking/hiking is ok, (a little tight downhill!) so will ease myself back into some short easy sessions perhaps run/walk this week... + some strength work ;-)
Great episode as always guys. I also want to sign up for the giveaway. I’m really hyped for the metaspeed edge Paris. I have the metaspeed sky Tokyo but think the edge sounds like a better match for my mechanics. I also am curious to see what the magic speed 4 is like when it drops later and how it compares to the endorphin speed 4.
This giveaway is closed! Congrats to Chris Ash!
Love when all 3 of you are on here together. It’s such a dynamic trio lol
You got Matt who is the ultimate hype man and is probably on the limitless pill
David who is always chill, laid back, and cathartic with his answers
Then Nathan who sits right in the middle of the spectrum and steers the topics (and effortlessly cites data while breaking it down for the lay person).
Do we need DOR apparel? 🤔
Yes
What brand though....I don't think anyone would be able to agree on that.
Yes
If you do, don’t use the typical plastic cheap shirts that come with most race registrations.
Definitely yes.
Excited for everything Asics, Saucony, and New Balance are doing right now. And super curious to try the 2024 Mizunos. You guys are awesome - thanks for keeping my runs a lot healthier.
As always, informative and helpful. My fiancé and I train and run marathons together. We’ve had numerous conversations about carbon plated shoes and often fall to the side of, the problems they seem to cause outweigh their benefits. On two occasions my fiancé has experienced quite a bit of hip pain post-marathon, which has not occurred with other shoes. She wore different iterations of the Vaporflys on both occasions. Most recently, I wore the Adizero Adios Pro 3s and my feet were destroyed after the race. I had worn them a few times and thought they were safe. After about mile 18 the pain from the rods was significant and my feet had noticeable swelling after the race. Luckily Running Warehouse accepted my return for store credit! We both have the mindset of not wearing carbon plated (or shoes with carbon rods) in the future. It seems it’s a delicate process of testing a racing shoe to determine race readiness. As you discussed, plated shoes do seem to pose physiological risk. There is no doubt a risk vs reward to them. Nevertheless, great episode. Here is my entry for the Running Warehouse giveaway!
Training for my first marathon in June, I’ve been listening to this podcast for a while now and it’s been asking and answering the right questions.
Thanks guys 10/10
72 y.o here and the plated /rocker allows me to continue running. The forefoot rocker is a HUGE benefit after 50 years of long distance racing and training. And track work!! But feet and ankles really like supershoes. 5 days a week running. Have had to work on hip/upper leg/glute strength. PT exercises, physio etc. More v4 is an exception. I am talking endorphin pro/ speed, NB SC Elite and trainer, Alphafly, AsicsMagic speed (v1 only). Adios pro 3, Tecumie Sen and Adizero pro (not adios pro) But no treadmill! Too much opposing forces: plate vs tread belt direction movement.
Treadmill: I can train more by shifting some body weight to the treadmill "arms" and decreased pounding: just 1-2 days week. Run on bike path next to my house 3-4 days a,week, mountains in summertime.
Have you run in the Superblast?
God I freaking Love ES 4. They are FANTASTIC for my flat feet. Nimble and fast. So versatile.
Definitely want to give the Edge Paris a try now 😮 thanks for continually making great content!
I'm excited to try the Asics Metaspeed Sky Paris. It sounds like it should fit my running mechanics and my wider forefoot.
I'm excited for the Saucony Triumph 22 👀
It sucks. Huge disappointment for me.
Love the ASICS sky 🆚 edge comparison build up 👟
Great content, very advanced training theories
I’m just getting into workout regiments, and will put this content to use
Keep it going, great stuff!
This is spot on. Went with the adrenaline 23 for post tib but the forefoot was so stiff it made it worse. Now I understand why! Great info!
Thank you for looking into all of this, I’m a runner on a budget so I just don’t have money to throw at all-the-shoes, love your content!
Looking forward to running in the Asics Superblast (because we don't get enough of this in NZ), Noosa Tri 15, and the Endorphin Speed 4
I'm excited to try more running shoes with a rockered sole!
Great discussion, and very timely! I just experienced a calf strain last week and this was super helpful. I love the accessible explanations of how muscles and tendons work and how we can test those things at home.
I love this podcast!! So informative. I’m excited about the Hoka Rocket X 2 and the road version.. they just happen to make my feet happy!! Thank you for your podcasts ..😊
This episode addresses two questions I’ve had over the past two months.
Here for the running content obviously, but gladly partaking in the giveaway.
Loved this episode. Been preaching this to my peers for ages. Train in trainers, adapt, race in fast shoes. We get so caught up in sexy workouts and times and strava. "Back in the day" flats and spikes were so special because you ONLY used them for races or one tuneup workout. Besides the physiological stuff, the "specialness" of racing shoes is gone when we use them too much. Only wear the special shoes and the special kit and the lucky socks, etc etc on race day.
I love this channel. I have learned so much about injury prevention, which is super useful for me.
I'd like to enter the running warehouse competition!! Love you insights. You guys bring so much knowledge to runners and your passion for running shows Thank you, thank you :)
I like your videos but it would be much more helpful if you would state how you all run. Why not when you give an impression say if you are a forefoot , midfoot or heelstriker? That makes a big big difference. You could even go further and show where you all normally wear off the shoes. That would give a much better idea to the viewers.
matt is more of a heel striker as he always mentions when reviewing shoes
The comparison video is what I needed for those two new shoes 🤘🔥
Very insightful stuff about calves especially since it’s really what I’ve been looking to strengthen
I have been loving the Asics gel nimbus 25 as my every day trainer, but I am super excited about trying Saucony endorphins as my next trainer! Love the pod keep doing what you're doing!
Excited to try the Hoka Mach 6! Loved this episode. Thanks for all you do to educate!
Love the input on carbon plate as trainers shoes. Entering giveaway!
Always enjoy the podcast and videos! Great to hear your thoughts on the Asics Metaspeed Sky/Edge as I've been looking for a new race shoe. The prospect of a Superblast 2 in 2024 is what I'm most excited about, but now Hoka has gone and released multiple shoes I didn't see coming (Cielo X1 and Skyward X) on top of the promised Mach X2. The shoes just keep coming, so I'll need ya'll to keep helping me figure out what I want to buy! Keep up the great work.
Love the apparel chat! I’d also choose Rabbit if limited to one brand. In particular, the FKT and Fuel n Fly are both terrific shorts.
i'm excited for the new metaspeeds, just trying to figure out whether the edge or sky will be better for me - would love to hear more about that choice
I’m excited to someday try a supershoe! I’m so curious to feel the difference with a carbon plate!
Really been enjoying hearing the PT thoughts on things since discovering the podcast/channel
Thanks for this helpful content. I am running my first marathon this November and is considering buying a carbon plated shoes but not know how to incorporate it in a training
I enjoyed hearing your perspective about training in super shoes. I prefer to keep a rotation of typical daily trainers and super trainers (Endorphin Speed 3) to switch up the requirements on my feet
didnt love the sky+, but still logged around 200 miles in my pair. def would like to try the edge paris based on recent reviews!
Super excited about the NB SuperComp Elite v4, just picked up the Rebel v4 and they nailed it with the new PEBA compound.
I'm most excited about my Saucony Tempus- stable shoes with modern foam feel a lot faster than what I've been running in before.
Things to worry bout before shoes : sleep, eating healthy, training errors. Shoes aren’t high on the list of elite athletes, I think everyday runners get caught up in the marketing and hype. Just focus on the other stuff and you will run well. Super shoes are bonus
I'm excited about the Nike Alphafly 3. Get a chance to demo them and the Vaporfly 3 in a couple weeks.
I would go with Tracksmith if I had to be exclusive for apparel. I love their merino tops in the winter (just wore one this morning).
Thank you for always bringing top quality content! 🙏🏽
Love this podcast, so much great info! Hope to be entered in the Running Warehouse giveaway. Looking forward to the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4
I can't wait for the full LSP Adidas Adios 9! I have and love Boston 10, and I'm looking forward to trying a lower stack of pure LSP without rods. I also love Topo's Cyclone 2 (can you see a theme here? Whatever DOR love, I buy and turn out loving as well!), so I'm looking forward to trying their higher stack PEBAX shoe (the Specter 2, if I'm remembering correctly?) coming out this year. It'll work better for me over longer distances than the Cyclone 2.
Just picked up the superblast and am super excited for that (long runs and marathon) and also loving the gt2000 12 (thanks Matt!!)
Thank you for asking the question , what if it was not for free, what brand would you be purchasing. Thanks for looking out for the everyday person !
Yeah, I love Rabbit apparel. The best. I only get it when on sale though. When I first started running, I got everything from Target.
Great podcast. I truly enjoyed the thoughts about super shoes. BTW, discounted running gear is the way to go.
Looking forward to trying the Metaspeed edge Paris. I’m definitely a cadence runner.
I am excited about purchasing the VALKYRIE ELITE CARBON RUNNER for the latest breathability and comfort features
Very informative. Looking forward to that speed edge paris. Liked this vid and followed you guys.
How do these compare to the Vaporfly 3?
Have my Sky Paris on the way! Hopefully don't have to use the calf strain info on myself, but happy to have the info just in case!
Love this and hearing about the science and research you all present! HS track coach and researcher
The question still remains for mid pack runners do super shoes make a difference? Is there sufficient bang for the buck?
I was excited about the New Balance FuelCell SuperComp Elite v4 and I got them and it exceeded my expectations.. now I’m about to grab the companion trainer the Rebel v4!
But I’d LOVE to grab a pair of Hoka Cielo X1 for sure.. just not in the budget right now.
Great show. Looking forward to trying the new ASIC shoes. Gift card would be sweet for a second pair!
I have a great shoe rotation and am excited when I wear certain shoes for each run. Especially my max cushion because I only wear those after knowing that I put in a hard work out.
So excited to try Edge Paris! And alphafly 3!!
Most excited for the Novablast 4 or Endorphin Speed 4! Previous shoe models were recommended to me by Dr. Brown and I’ve loved them thus far! Thanks for broadening my horizons beyond just Brooks :)
Hey, Chris! Congratulations, you are our Week 1 winner of the giveaway!! Send us an email at doctorsofrunning@gmail.com so we can send you the giftcard. :)
I'm most excited for the Asics Metaspeed Sky Paris. I typically haven't fared well with carbon fiber plates, but I'm hoping with the new foam and the flatter plate, it will work for me. If not I may be visit David at physical therapy here in Santa Barbara to get fixed.
thanks for always answering my emails, I would love to win the contest!
Ran in the Sky Paris on Friday; the new foam is really responsive, but I think I need to work on lacing; I got some bad hot spots on my pinky toe.
Have heard good things about the Rebel V4s, i have the twos and definitely want to try them once I've burned through those!
Under Armour clothes have been my go to. Here for the give away. Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 is the shoe I want to try.
I’d go with rabbit also, price is high but quality is there. Also stoked to get my hands on the endorphin pro 4! Cant wait for the DOR review of it either
Very excited about the metaspeed edge based on your initial review.
Excited for superblast
Totally excited for the Saucony Endorphin Speed 4!!
I’m fortunate to be able to try a bunch of different shoes, both plated and non-plated. I’ve made it a point to use them solely for big workouts, and uptempo long runs. Almost all of my long runs incorporate some sort of faster paces for my next goal race. I find it’s been the biggest improvement in my fitness doing so since it’s combining the higher mileage plus added intensity without going too far and affect recovery. I supplement these workouts with plenty of very very easy runs. Cheers
Super interesting comparison. I’d love to try the metaspeed edge Paris 🎉
Loved this episode! I’d like to enter the running warehouse giveaway.
I’m excited for anything saucony or asics brings to the table
Excited for the metaspeed sky Paris! 🏃♂️🏃♂️
Love your podcast. First time watching you on youtube.
I'd like to enter the running warehouse drawing please.
I’d love to enter the running warehouse giveaway.
I’m excited to try the new Mach 6s.
DOR apparel - only if it’s co-branded with a good manufacturer.
Really looking forward to the metaspeed sky/edge! Wondering about the slightly higher medial arch - I tried on a metaspeed edge and i can feel it on my left foot. Does that mean it’s a no go already, or is it still worth checking the comfort on a run before making a call?
I'd love to enter the RW giveaway. I'd probably end up using it to pickup some shoes on the clearance cause I'm a bit cheap like that at the moment. 😂 But man those Metaspeed Paris shoes look really nice.
Hard to beat Rabbit apparel! I’d definitely go with them. And I could definitely use a running warehouse gift card to do so 😉 I’d like to enter the giveaway. Thanks guys!
Really interested in trying the Metaspeed. FF turbo is one of my favorite foams from my time running in the Superblast
I’m excited about the Saucony endorphin speed 4 and the ASICS trabuco max 3!
Excited for another pair of NB FuelCell SC Trainers.
Totally agree that our bodies are very adaptable but it takes time for us to adapt- I have the New Balance Rebel v4 and Hoka Mach 6 on my radar to strengthen my legs for my next race
Hopefully the laces in the Metaspeed Sky Paris is better. That was my only gripe in the Sky 1. I swapped it with the ones from Newton and now they are perfect (to me)!
Also entering the giveaway!
I’m excited for ASICS METASPEED Edge Paris 🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️
Really looking forward to trying on either the Mach 6 or Rebel v4 as I have relied on too much plated training recently
Great episode. I believe in super shoes if you run a fast enough pace and your body can handle the added stress. My first and only super shoe is the Endorphin Pro (v1). The Pro 3, and good training, helped me qualify for the venerable blue coral at the Gate River Run 15k, where I won a top 10% hat, not easy at my age. Also, regarding discounts, Nike, Adidas, and others offer discounts for military, first responders, and others, so check into that. Best to shop at your local small business run store though, as long as they have knowledgeable staff.
I rotate between like 6 shoes. Some carbon plated, some nylon plated, some max cushion, some minimal, and different drops in hope that it is better for me in the long run... overall newbie runner though only been doing it for almost a year and am now 32.
I'm really looking forward to the Rebel 4. I love my super shoes, but there is just something about the Rebel Series. I guess I'll toss in the next versions of the TectonX as well. It's a favorite of mine on the trails.
Looking forward to trying the Brooks Hyperion Max 2 and New Balance Pacer 2.
I'm excited to try the ASICS Metaspeed Edge Paris.
I’m excited for Saucony endorphin pro 4. Do I need to participate in a race to buy super shoes? I'm thinking about signing up for my first HM race for $130 or use that money towards a super shoe.
I’m waiting for the next Puma Nitro offering!
I’ve only had one test run in the Edge Paris but it feels so much better than the Metaspeed Sky+. The Sky+ was a fast shoe but it was firm and not easy on the legs. Loving the spoon shaped plate and softer foam on the Edge Paris.
Thanks for your reviews, really looking hard at the edge Paris!
Looking forward to the ghost 16… my gt-1000 11s are getting worn out and I’ll need a new pair of daily trainers non-track work.
Lol - timing! Calf - yep! Just strained mine, most likely due to a brutal cross-country skate skiing session on a course that was too challenging for my skill level and thus a few good crashes :-D. Interestingly self palpating I feel it was potentially Soleus.. Gave it a week off running, thought it felt ok, yeah nah, so damaged it again - doh! fortunately not as bad as the first time but another week off running, finally walking/hiking is ok, (a little tight downhill!) so will ease myself back into some short easy sessions perhaps run/walk this week... + some strength work ;-)
love silhouette of sky, hope they release more color ways.
Got the edge paris last week. Feels more similar to my VF 2 than the edge plus did.
Great episode as always guys. I also want to sign up for the giveaway. I’m really hyped for the metaspeed edge Paris. I have the metaspeed sky Tokyo but think the edge sounds like a better match for my mechanics. I also am curious to see what the magic speed 4 is like when it drops later and how it compares to the endorphin speed 4.
Heel raise test is hard with hallus limitis/arthritis in the big toe!! Alternatives?
Love your reviews and comparisons, but would also love to win the giveaway!