I use a DBR10 as a main for solo acoustic performances in bars and restaurants. I DI out of an AER slope 60. The two channel mixer on the DBR10 is very handy for adding another player. The DBR10 is excellent for this application.
@@WWeiss-nv5vzI agree. Actually I think prior to 2020 stuff Yamaha reduced it to $324.99 actually but the price crept back up like everything else. But like Weiss said $399.00 right now is hard to beat for this speaker!
Of course the DXR is better. Is it twice the price better? Most people say no. My friend sells both and does side by side sound tests. 80% of his customers purchase the DBR10 over the higher priced DXR10.
I run these over the DXS12mkii. I use DXR10s for wedge monitors. The DBRs go plenty loud for my application. And the covers are well worth the investment.
The DXR mkii tops are better matched with the DXS mkii subs. DBR are ok if you’re using it for DJ booth monitor or stage floor monitor. This is coming from my experience of owning the DXR & DXS speakers. I had a chance to use DBR speakers at a club but they were use only in the DJ booth
Hi there, nice review! I own 2 of these speakers and pair them now with 2 EV ZXA1 active subwoofers. I am looking for little more bass. I am considering a pair of the DXS15MK2 or the DXS12MK2. Liking little bit more bass so I am tempting on buying the 15's. You think the DBR10's can keep up with the DXS15MK2? In the future I will step up to the new DXR10mk2's when they come out this fall. Thanks
You shouldn't have any problems with the DBR10's keeping up with a pair of DXS15MK2's. When I pair them with my DXS12MKII's I have to run the tops at -7 instead of unity or they overpower the subs.
@@TheAngrySoundTech Got the DXS15MK2's and they are great and loud!! Never heard a 15inch sub that loud and clear. Did not even clip on me, did a gig for around 150 people with 2 DBR10's as tops. Great combination, will do some money saving now and get the DXR10MK2's when the come out. That will be a killer combo
Hi there. Thanks for the review. I’m a video guy and looking to buy a small mobile pa setup for speaking seminars. Someone’s selling a pair for about $350 USD here in Australia. To be honest, I don’t know too much about live sound setups, but I do appreciate good sound. I have a couple of rackmount Sennheiser mic receivers and was thinking that a mixer with 2 powered speakers would be the way to go, giving me the flexibility to use just one speaker for small meetings. At this stage I don’t want to spend much more on that while I’m finding my feet. My question is, how are these speakers for spoken word? The freq response seems pretty flat, and perhaps a mixer with 3 band eq would give nice sound? Or is there a better option? Should I be looking for smaller speakers with a higher quality output for my needs, or perhaps starting with just one higher quality speaker might be better? I don’t know. You’re the first review I’ve seen, and I’d appreciate your opinion since you clearly are fussy about you sound. As you should be! Cheers from Sydney for any advice, and thanks again for the review. Andrew
I've been using DXR12's for floor monitors with rock bands and they're great. My question is would DBR10's work "almost" as well? I'm trying to get a smaller footprint but not lose to much volume & tone. I like the size, weight & price of the DBR10's Thanks
Sonically I think they're very close and I did I barn demo video comparing them. Volume wise I think the DXR12 would definitely run away from it in my experience as a main but as a floor wedge I think the DBR10 would be more than adequate for vocals and maybe a little guitar mixed in. Though I have the DBR10s, I've not used them as monitors so I can't speak to that too much though. I've only used them as mains for an acoustic duo. Edit: I know it's been a year and you've probably made a decision but just in case you haven't...
I own a pair of these speakers and for me it's really good I don't agree with you because I did put it side by side with a qsc k10 and harbinger and i really enjoy the quality of de dbr but i respect your point of view for me they are not cheap speaker for me cheap means 200 -250 but its my opinion.
Good review man....again. Off topic..I own DXR15 s and was thinking of getting a couple of subs. Do you still wish you bought two DXS15mkII over the DXS18xlf, in terms of weight? Think you mentioned that in a comment after your your dxs18 review. Thanks from the UK.
I think I made the right choice when it comes to subwoofers. I now have 4 of the DXS12MKII's and they work great for small to mid-sized shows. Very good output for such a small subwoofer. I still just have two of the DXS18XLF's but I do plan on buying more. I like the idea of having a small lower cost sub for small shows that maybe isn't paying me the best and then also having the top of the line DXS18XLF for the larger shows that require good deep and loud bass. So while the 15's would come in handy here and there I think I made a good choice for my company to stick with just two models of subwoofers going forward. I don't remember if I had mentioned this but prior to this decision we had 5 different models of subwoofers in our inventory. Now with that being said. The DXS12MKII is a great subwoofer so if you chose to go with the DXS15MKII I think you would like it and one major benefit is that you don't have to worry about scratching or denting the front grill. The real issue here is there just isn't enough money to buy everything. lol
can't wait to see your vid whit the Yamaha dxs18 xlf in action. Also it would be super cool if you do a series of video episodes opening some of your boxes (like de dxsxlf) to show the insides , speaker and other components. I Saw trinityprosound do it but only whit european like brands. Maybe it would be good for you and for us to see more in detail the productos. Thanks !!
I watch a lot of trinityprosound's videos. My only complaint with them is everything they touch sounds amazing. They never have anything bad to say about the speakers they take apart because they are trying to sell them. I'll think about doing take it apart videos. Not sure if I have enough space in my shop for that or not. As for the DXS18XLF I hate to say it but I haven't used them once yet at an event. I haven't bought tops to go with them so I've still been using our DAS Audio Vantec series stuff for bigger shows.
Hello , thank you for the review. You mentioned that you have also experience with Stagepas 600. Could you please share your thoughts about comparison of the sound between DBR10 and Stagepas 600? Do they sound same? I'm considerring DBR10 / DBR12 / Stagepas 600 as small "party" DJ PA system (in the garden or indoor for about 50 people). I have hard time to decide which one to choose. I suppose DBR12 will sound best, but is also slightly bigger - I'm kinda space limited in my apartement :-)
I used to own the original K series K12's and K8's but I have not owned any DXR speakers yet. I'm waiting for the DXR MKII's to come out this fall before purchasing. Just a side note since I cannot comment on comparing audio quality. I will say I don't like the way QSC does their coverage patterns. The do an Axisymetric coverage pattern on the K series which I believe can lead to high end reflections on floors and ceilings. I prefer the more common 90x60 coverage pattern on the Yamaha. QSC has reasoning behind using an Axisymetric coverage pattern so I think that might come down to personal preference.
I'd only get a 10" monitor if it's just speech or light music. If you have a bass or a lot of instruments going through the monitor I'd get a 12". I just ordered a Mackie DRM212 to test out as my new stage monitor speaker. To date I've been using DAS Audio Action 12A's for monitors. I prefer wood for stage monitors but that's mainly because I have a lot of musicians that like to put their feet on them. Wood is a little heavier and harder to rock backwards with a foot on it.
Hmmmmm I don't think I would use them for a home stereo system. Any gig you'd use these for would require a subwoofer so I'm not sure how much bass you want in your living room but I'm thinking you'd probably want something to fill out the low end a bit.
I have not had a chance to listen to the Air10's. There was a point in time where I thought about trying them out but I never pulled the trigger on buying them.
I wanna say thanks! I'm glad I subscribe to your page... I have a question for you towards the end. Your level of detail is similar to mine, although I only consider myself a hobby DJ nowadays. I've had Yamaha DXR tops + DSR subs before I sold everything thinking I was done, but word got out and now I'm doing about one gig a month. Got introduced to Turbosound in 2017 and have been using 2 - iP2000 + 1 - iQ15b and pushed it (maybe not the best idea) with ballroom crowds of over 300 ppl. Your other video comment of going back to point source is aligned with my thinking! My question is, for a monthly gig guy, do you think 1-DXS15mkII + 2-DBR12 would hold well for 250 ppl (max)??? I work with guys who have A LOT more gear than I wanna have as I'm getting older. (BUT I still want a small system) Sorry this is kinda long...
No worries about having a long comment. Have you seen the length of some of my videos? lol I babble on forever! Anyways to get to your question. Yes I think you would be just fine with 1 DXS15MKII and 2 DBR12's. I'd personally rather have that setup than the Turbosounds you're currently using. I plan on using my 2 DXS12MKII's and DBR10's (soon to be DXR10MKII's) with crowds up to 250 people. You might even get better sound out of the DBR12's as they have a larger compression driver than the DBR10's I did my review on.
@@TheAngrySoundTech Thanks man. I learned (much like you did) from experience that my needs are better fulfilled with point source...and I miss the Yamaha sound that required minimal manipulation!
@@TheAngrySoundTech they are, my point was that yamaha could have labelled these Dbr12 or 15s CBR12P. In addition if yamaha have only added an amp then how can the same drivers produce 1000w and 132db compared to the CBR12 which could only achieve 125db and is 350w. Yamaha exaggerate their ratings.
Watts sell speakers. All manufacturers know this and hype big wattage numbers. It's not necessarily what the driver can handle but what the amp is capable of putting out in short bursts. The only time wattage numbers are accurate is when buying passive speakers. Do you think Mackie's DLM8 can really handle 2,000 watts in an 8 inch speaker? I'd recommend watching my video "do watts matter". Also the reason the SPL is different is the powered version is packed with DSP that fine tunes the cabinet and allows for maximum output. A passive cabinet does not have this. Those numbers are based on just hooking an amp up to it and playing music.
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I use a DBR10 as a main for solo acoustic performances in bars and restaurants. I DI out of an AER slope 60. The two channel mixer on the DBR10 is very handy for adding another player. The DBR10 is excellent for this application.
This is exactly why I’m looking into buying this speaker! 👍
You keep saying that you don't want to compare it to a $700 speaker. Then don't. Bottom line, is there a better speaker at this price?
NO! Still $400 after introduced in 2014
@@WWeiss-nv5vzI agree. Actually I think prior to 2020 stuff Yamaha reduced it to $324.99 actually but the price crept back up like everything else. But like Weiss said $399.00 right now is hard to beat for this speaker!
Of course the DXR is better. Is it twice the price better? Most people say no. My friend sells both and does side by side sound tests. 80% of his customers purchase the DBR10 over the higher priced DXR10.
I run these over the DXS12mkii. I use DXR10s for wedge monitors. The DBRs go plenty loud for my application. And the covers are well worth the investment.
The DXR mkii tops are better matched with the DXS mkii subs. DBR are ok if you’re using it for DJ booth monitor or stage floor monitor. This is coming from my experience of owning the DXR & DXS speakers. I had a chance to use DBR speakers at a club but they were use only in the DJ booth
Hi there, nice review! I own 2 of these speakers and pair them now with 2 EV ZXA1 active subwoofers. I am looking for little more bass. I am considering a pair of the DXS15MK2 or the DXS12MK2. Liking little bit more bass so I am tempting on buying the 15's. You think the DBR10's can keep up with the DXS15MK2? In the future I will step up to the new DXR10mk2's when they come out this fall. Thanks
You shouldn't have any problems with the DBR10's keeping up with a pair of DXS15MK2's. When I pair them with my DXS12MKII's I have to run the tops at -7 instead of unity or they overpower the subs.
@@TheAngrySoundTech Got the DXS15MK2's and they are great and loud!! Never heard a 15inch sub that loud and clear. Did not even clip on me, did a gig for around 150 people with 2 DBR10's as tops. Great combination, will do some money saving now and get the DXR10MK2's when the come out. That will be a killer combo
@@sandervanmastrigt4471 That's great to hear about the DXS15MKII's!
Compare to roland kc which one better.
Thank you
How can I find the Yamaha speaker. RMS or PMPO?
Hi there. Thanks for the review. I’m a video guy and looking to buy a small mobile pa setup for speaking seminars. Someone’s selling a pair for about $350 USD here in Australia. To be honest, I don’t know too much about live sound setups, but I do appreciate good sound. I have a couple of rackmount Sennheiser mic receivers and was thinking that a mixer with 2 powered speakers would be the way to go, giving me the flexibility to use just one speaker for small meetings. At this stage I don’t want to spend much more on that while I’m finding my feet. My question is, how are these speakers for spoken word? The freq response seems pretty flat, and perhaps a mixer with 3 band eq would give nice sound? Or is there a better option? Should I be looking for smaller speakers with a higher quality output for my needs, or perhaps starting with just one higher quality speaker might be better? I don’t know. You’re the first review I’ve seen, and I’d appreciate your opinion since you clearly are fussy about you sound. As you should be! Cheers from Sydney for any advice, and thanks again for the review. Andrew
I've been using DXR12's for floor monitors with rock bands and they're great. My question is would DBR10's work "almost" as well? I'm trying to get a smaller footprint but not lose to much volume & tone. I like the size, weight & price of the DBR10's
Thanks
Sonically I think they're very close and I did I barn demo video comparing them. Volume wise I think the DXR12 would definitely run away from it in my experience as a main but as a floor wedge I think the DBR10 would be more than adequate for vocals and maybe a little guitar mixed in. Though I have the DBR10s, I've not used them as monitors so I can't speak to that too much though. I've only used them as mains for an acoustic duo.
Edit: I know it's been a year and you've probably made a decision but just in case you haven't...
@@JHGurganusdo you have any experience with the JBL irx112? If so how do they compare?
@@tommypahl unfortunately I have no experience with the IRX series so I can't speak to that comparison.
I added 6 DBR10's to use as floor monitors. I've gotten nothing but position comments on there sound.
I own a pair of these speakers and for me it's really good I don't agree with you because I did put it side by side with a qsc k10 and harbinger and i really enjoy the quality of de dbr but i respect your point of view for me they are not cheap speaker for me cheap means 200 -250 but its my opinion.
I've been using DXR12's and I like them over all the other manufacturer's for all reason's. Especially if you have to push them.
Good review man....again. Off topic..I own DXR15 s and was thinking of getting a couple of subs. Do you still wish you bought two DXS15mkII over the DXS18xlf, in terms of weight? Think you mentioned that in a comment after your your dxs18 review. Thanks from the UK.
I think I made the right choice when it comes to subwoofers. I now have 4 of the DXS12MKII's and they work great for small to mid-sized shows. Very good output for such a small subwoofer. I still just have two of the DXS18XLF's but I do plan on buying more. I like the idea of having a small lower cost sub for small shows that maybe isn't paying me the best and then also having the top of the line DXS18XLF for the larger shows that require good deep and loud bass. So while the 15's would come in handy here and there I think I made a good choice for my company to stick with just two models of subwoofers going forward. I don't remember if I had mentioned this but prior to this decision we had 5 different models of subwoofers in our inventory. Now with that being said. The DXS12MKII is a great subwoofer so if you chose to go with the DXS15MKII I think you would like it and one major benefit is that you don't have to worry about scratching or denting the front grill. The real issue here is there just isn't enough money to buy everything. lol
@@TheAngrySoundTech thanks for the reply. Always good to an opinion from people that have experience and knowledge....
I had the chance to hear the small QSC k 112 Subwoofer in a Music Store and wow, very nice Bass Output.
can't wait to see your vid whit the Yamaha dxs18 xlf in action. Also it would be super cool if you do a series of video episodes opening some of your boxes (like de dxsxlf) to show the insides , speaker and other components. I Saw trinityprosound do it but only whit european like brands. Maybe it would be good for you and for us to see more in detail the productos. Thanks !!
I watch a lot of trinityprosound's videos. My only complaint with them is everything they touch sounds amazing. They never have anything bad to say about the speakers they take apart because they are trying to sell them. I'll think about doing take it apart videos. Not sure if I have enough space in my shop for that or not. As for the DXS18XLF I hate to say it but I haven't used them once yet at an event. I haven't bought tops to go with them so I've still been using our DAS Audio Vantec series stuff for bigger shows.
@@TheAngrySoundTech No worries men the day Will come soon or later. Allways big fan of tours, have a Nice afternoon ☺️
Hello , thank you for the review. You mentioned that you have also experience with Stagepas 600. Could you please share your thoughts about comparison of the sound between DBR10 and Stagepas 600? Do they sound same? I'm considerring DBR10 / DBR12 / Stagepas 600 as small "party" DJ PA system (in the garden or indoor for about 50 people). I have hard time to decide which one to choose. I suppose DBR12 will sound best, but is also slightly bigger - I'm kinda space limited in my apartement :-)
I'm going to record a video for you shortly to explain my thoughts.
Wich speaker sounds better in your opinion? The DXR-Series (DXR10) or the K-series from QSC? I often read, that the sound is similary.
I used to own the original K series K12's and K8's but I have not owned any DXR speakers yet. I'm waiting for the DXR MKII's to come out this fall before purchasing. Just a side note since I cannot comment on comparing audio quality. I will say I don't like the way QSC does their coverage patterns. The do an Axisymetric coverage pattern on the K series which I believe can lead to high end reflections on floors and ceilings. I prefer the more common 90x60 coverage pattern on the Yamaha. QSC has reasoning behind using an Axisymetric coverage pattern so I think that might come down to personal preference.
I had QSC k12 (v.1), EV ELX 12", and now DXR12's. DXR12s are my favorite of the group. Extremely happy with them.
What do u recommend for techno private party for 50 people.. Is this speaker and one sub enough
Thanks for your knowledge, what monitor do you suggest for a church stage? 10 inch but 12 is not out the question.
I'd only get a 10" monitor if it's just speech or light music. If you have a bass or a lot of instruments going through the monitor I'd get a 12". I just ordered a Mackie DRM212 to test out as my new stage monitor speaker. To date I've been using DAS Audio Action 12A's for monitors. I prefer wood for stage monitors but that's mainly because I have a lot of musicians that like to put their feet on them. Wood is a little heavier and harder to rock backwards with a foot on it.
Hi mate.. would like tl have this to a theatre home system and a karaoke system? Better of with 10 inches than 12?
Gday mate would these be good for loud punk rock band in a loud rehearsal room?
do you suggest this speaker or the JBL EON610 it's for a monitor so we only need a 10 inch.
I'd get the DBR10 over a JBL EON. I've owned EON's in the past and I've had issues with them.
Would 2 of these be good for a living room stereo system? How is the bass? Thanks
Hmmmmm I don't think I would use them for a home stereo system. Any gig you'd use these for would require a subwoofer so I'm not sure how much bass you want in your living room but I'm thinking you'd probably want something to fill out the low end a bit.
Nice review! Have you ever checked out the Presonus Air10's? I haven't yet, but hoping to one day.
I have not had a chance to listen to the Air10's. There was a point in time where I thought about trying them out but I never pulled the trigger on buying them.
@@TheAngrySoundTech Ok, thanks!
I wanna say thanks! I'm glad I subscribe to your page...
I have a question for you towards the end.
Your level of detail is similar to mine, although I only consider myself a hobby DJ nowadays.
I've had Yamaha DXR tops + DSR subs before I sold everything thinking I was done, but word got out and now I'm doing about one gig a month.
Got introduced to Turbosound in 2017 and have been using 2 - iP2000 + 1 - iQ15b and pushed it (maybe not the best idea) with ballroom crowds of over 300 ppl.
Your other video comment of going back to point source is aligned with my thinking!
My question is, for a monthly gig guy, do you think 1-DXS15mkII + 2-DBR12 would hold well for 250 ppl (max)???
I work with guys who have A LOT more gear than I wanna have as I'm getting older.
(BUT I still want a small system)
Sorry this is kinda long...
No worries about having a long comment. Have you seen the length of some of my videos? lol I babble on forever! Anyways to get to your question. Yes I think you would be just fine with 1 DXS15MKII and 2 DBR12's. I'd personally rather have that setup than the Turbosounds you're currently using. I plan on using my 2 DXS12MKII's and DBR10's (soon to be DXR10MKII's) with crowds up to 250 people. You might even get better sound out of the DBR12's as they have a larger compression driver than the DBR10's I did my review on.
@@TheAngrySoundTech Thanks man. I learned (much like you did) from experience that my needs are better fulfilled with point source...and I miss the Yamaha sound that required minimal manipulation!
thx
Is it bluetooth
Nope, it is not.
I brought this speaker than you for the review
equalization.
I thought the CBR were the entry level....
I could be wrong but aren't CBRs just a passive version of the DBR series?
@@TheAngrySoundTech they are, my point was that yamaha could have labelled these Dbr12 or 15s CBR12P. In addition if yamaha have only added an amp then how can the same drivers produce 1000w and 132db compared to the CBR12 which could only achieve 125db and is 350w. Yamaha exaggerate their ratings.
Watts sell speakers. All manufacturers know this and hype big wattage numbers. It's not necessarily what the driver can handle but what the amp is capable of putting out in short bursts. The only time wattage numbers are accurate is when buying passive speakers. Do you think Mackie's DLM8 can really handle 2,000 watts in an 8 inch speaker? I'd recommend watching my video "do watts matter". Also the reason the SPL is different is the powered version is packed with DSP that fine tunes the cabinet and allows for maximum output. A passive cabinet does not have this. Those numbers are based on just hooking an amp up to it and playing music.
So not good
Go listen to one in person. Find a dealer and check it out live.