Full Metal Jacket - Renegade Cut
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- Kubrick Month begins! An analysis of Full Metal Jacket. Topics include Vietnam films, war, psychology, sex and much more. Support Renegade Cut Media through Patreon. / renegadecut
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"You're so ugly you could be a modern-art masterpiece!"
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How could anyone think that Full Metal Jacket is a recruit film? I couldn't find one positive aspect about the war that is explained throughout the film.
Le Croissant I think that it is a movie pretending to be pro-war on the surface, but if you look any deeper you see it is very anti-war
I think it played a hand in recruiting my brother. I think it boils down to toxic masculinity. Sometimes our society fails to distinguish between desirable forms of strength and costly and dehumanizing forms of strength. And then it tells men to go chase bad ones especially if they want to be real men and acknowledged as men.
The film is not even pretending to be pro-war on the surface, it's pretty clearly anti-war on the surface, it's even less subtle than Starship Troopers.
People are idiots.
No Name you also can't understand him if your a sociopathic conservative
Never underestimate a conservative's ability to misinterpret a film
This movie was pretty big in my home during my adolescence. My father is a retired Marine. He would love to watch the first act over and over again, almost never watching it all the way through. Thought it was the funniest thing in the world. He would then recount how true that sort of treatment often was, even in the 80s when he was going through boot.
Yea I heard the second half is really rough for veterans of the Vietnam war to watch. I remember hearing a story about a guy who went with his dad to see it, and when they got to the part with the booby trapped teddy bear, his father got extremely tense and knew what was about to happen. After the soldier was killed by the hidden grenade, they had to leave the theater.
FYI the “1000” yard stare refers to combat soldiers who have “seen” too much combat to the point they are numb to any feelings or surroundings.
the "March of Mickey Mouse" thing is legit. When I was in the Army, we'd do Spongebob Squarepants cadences and other random kids shows all the time.
Full Metal Jacket was a anti-war film and one great one at that.
Stanley Kubrick did a excellent in bringing the true face and terribleness of the entire conflict out to people who knew nothing about it. In fact, soldiers who fought in Vietnam, never ever recovered and never found a purpose in why did they fight nor were they ever decorated as much than the previous war such as WWII or any future conflicts like the Gulf Wars and War against Terror but instead soldiers often found themselves scorned at when they returned home after the whole US Military pulled out of South Vietnam.
The USMC was also portrayed correctly. As anyone who served in the USMC knows, they're trained to be the spearhead of any US conflict either infront or directly behind the US Army Rangers thus in all forces of the US Military brackets, they're the gungho of all thus their training is one of the toughest outside of the SOFs. However, being toughest is one thing, being brainwashed is another. Yes USMC are often brainwashed that they're killers and their sole purpose is nothing but to kill. This is also prevalent in Marine specified movies like Jarhead where the Marines are brainwashed that they are the ultimate killing machines and when they realized they were sent to a conflict where no shots were to be fired, many went totally apeshit and that's what the Marine does to you. All those about the "Thousand yards stare" are true but not only on Marines but in fact every combat personals in the world if they were told to kill someone.
This movie is so perfect that people hated it for demonizing the Vietnam War but in actual fact, it is and it shows not on the side of how evil the NVA or the USMC was but how, in general, brutal the USMC was and how the entire war should not have even been fought.
I wonder if what you're saying is a testament to why the war went for 20 years?
Who hated it?
Even the book was never really criticised for demonizing anything, though there is a character who chops parts from corpses, and carries them in a bag, like a rabbit paw.
He had cut the sniper girl's feet after Joker shot her in the face, by the way.
"Some people said it was a recruitment film."
Wait, what?
I watched with a friend of mine before he went to boot camp, its common...
People are attracted to the disciplinary aspect of the military, I am too, but I don't necessarily support its political use.
Dammit, I forgot how friggin good this film looks
This film, like Fight Club, American History X, and They Live, has fallen victim to what's known as the "misguided fandom". It's when a movie is trying to criticize something, but then becomes unironically supported by the very people the film was trying to criticize. I can't tell you how many pro-war militarists love this movie, completely missing the point of it's anti-war message. I guess that kind of thing will happen when you fail to teach children the importance of understanding irony and literary analysis.
busylivingnotdying i would argue that The Godfather movies don’t criticize the mafia as much as they glamorize it (still 2 great movies though).
Seeing that most "mobsters" do not function as parts of highly hierarchical structures based on "a code" or "honor" or "family", but rather as situational partners in a loose network based mostly on profit, the portrayal of the mafia in The Godfather seems highly "idealized" in a certain sense.
So it’s not really a surprise that mobsters would like this kind of "romantic" portrayal.
I can see something similar with Whiplash an how it deconstructs the tough mentor/ meek student student relationship. On one hand Andrew becomes a better musician and more bold through Fletcher's harsh training. On the other, Andrew also develops a shitty personality where he looks down on people who don't share his interests, like his extended family, people who wasted their potential, like his Dad, or people who he thinks may hold him back, like his ex-girlfriend (which kind of baffled me when he thought he could get back with her after telling to her face that she wasn't worth his time or when he embraced his dad after being humiliated in the third act despite seeing him as a failure.)
The misguided fandom comes with people who advocate using the tough love mentality to levels that approach the abuse that Fletcher imposed on his students. The films portrayal of the abuse was supposed to be seen as utterly repugnant, but other people just saw it and probably thought that kids from certain generations were too soft, and people like Fletcher needed to exist to give them some backbone, regardless if the methods were effective or not.
With full metal jacket, that might have been exactly what Kubrick wanted. Duality of man, and what not. Cause the whole movie covers about 1/3 of the book it's based on, and those are not chronologically chosen parts. They've been composed like that for multiple purposes, and maybe this was one of them.
I don’t think the disturbing fandom you corrrctly point out is just due to not teaching irony. It’s a much deeper problem in our culture. We have two generations now (since mine, I’m 60) whose sense of reality is entirely shaped by the entertainment culture, not real life.
At the same time (since the 60s) we have devalued robust masculinity IN real life, and given young men no healthy way to achieve a meaningful masculinity thru the overcoming of real-life challenges (NOT video games), the development of valued competences (too many English majors, too few licensed electricians) and the expected assumption of responsibility thru marriage and family. We no longer EXPECT young males to become responsible and competent men, so many never really do so.
Notice how it is unmarried men 25-45 who worship the violent and twisted masculinity shown them by Scorsese and the films you mention. Scorsese maintains his violent films are cautionary tales on the consequences of violence as a lifestyle (and they are), but no one hears him over the roar of fanboy adulation that greets him everywhere.
At the same time, gangster movies (even the Sopranos) have a very definite and demanding code of masculinity, to which these aging males are responding. But manliness in the service of crime and violence is not a real-life option for these fanboys, thus the obsession with watching Goodfellas 200 times, and trying to be a tough guy only in one’s own mind.
Fight Club is a dramatization of all this - how ironic that men didn’t realize it was talking about THEM, and that idolizing the Fight Club itself and the Tyler Durden persona is what the whole film is warning AGAINST.
@@claumeister1 David Fincher once acknowledged that FIGHT CLUB did better in U.K. cinemas than in the US. For a nation brought up on Monty Python, The Young Ones and gallons of political standup every week on the BBC, the ironies seemed more self-evident.
I especially like the way Kublick depicted dehumanizing process of Pyle in first half as much as the other recruiters being prepared for the chaos. I still think to this day he could've done a little different. But.... Over all this is one of my favorite work of his.
Thank you for the analysis and your respect for the film. I appreciated the fact that your voice appeared somber throughout the review which matches the tone of the entire movie. Full Metal Jacket is a masterpiece but it is also a very unpleasant film. I think many people have trouble reconciling these two aspects of the film. The majority of people who reviewed the film when it first came out looked at it from a very limited and literal point of view and the in-depth themes present throughout the film were lost on them. Rodger Ebert for instance defend the movie when it first came out and said that he was surprised that Stanley Kubrick would make such a straightforward simple film, I am paraphrasing of course.
Wow, it seems unbelievably outlandish that part of its original audience saw it as a pro-war recruiting video.
A side of the film i think you didn't emphasize enough, is the infantilization of the trainees. The birthday song, the punishment system, the learning to do your bed and tie your shoes, all of this feels childish.
And then you get to the second part, with its violence seen as fun, the repeated evocations of poorly-controlled sexual urges, the references to popular escapist storytelling during the documentary filming(where they refer to it as a western), and the lack of a broader sense in their actions. this part feels kind of teenagey, as if by putting in a state of childhood, the training tried to make them grow into violent teenagers by th time they get to the warring fields.
of course, this only my vision of the movie, and your analysis proposes most of these ideas anyway. so, cool video
I cannot even conceive how some people thought it was a recruiting film when it first came out. I think I saw this sometime in the early 90's, when I was a teen, and I could clearly tell it was an anti-war movie, or at least a realistic view of war and the men who are sometimes forced to fight in a war. I think just watched the first half and decided to think what they wanted to think, and ignored the second half for what it really said.
The insight you have of movies is brilliant, you deserve way more subscribers
To me at least, the most powerful line in this movie is when Joker asks the door gunner "How can you shoot Women and Children?!" and he just laughs and replies "Easy! Don't lead em so much! Ain't War Hell! " it really goes to show that the famous line about war "You Never Get Your Soul Back" is true.
Thank you for this. One of my favorite films analyzed by one of my favorite channels.
lol "Perverting the name of God"
I wish I was smart enough to really discuss Kubrick. I love his work, especially the films dealing with violence and sex like Full Metal Jacket, A Clockwork Orange, and Dr. Strangelove. While I respect films like 2001: A Space Odyssey as visual masterworks, I find their more cerebral tone to be off-putting. Kubrick films our basest human condition so well. He does not take a picture of a Campbell's soup can or a toilet. He films a seemingly infinite prism woven with modern mythology, in which people happen to s***. Ceci n'est pas une pipe. C'est une verge. C'est la vie.
You don’t have to like it. Many people don’t. Sigourney Weaver, for example, described 2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY as “a film I find too sterile to sit through.” Stephen King called THE SHINING as “like a beautiful Cadillac without an engine.”
This is still my favourite movie of all time
Fresh eyes on a movie I have watched a good couple dozen times. Great analysis as always ^_^
Taxi driver and apacolypse now are my fav movies :p
Gotta go give this one a watch again tonight. Always love this film but I think I love it more now.
FMJ has a lot in common with Eyes Wide Shut in terms of esoteric themes. The presence of pentagrams in the final shots, aspects of domestic consumerism, chiaroscuro representing the conflict of innocence and power- the Mickey Mouse march at the end in the sea of flames was the most grizzly and thought provoking way the film could have ended.
The film showed more realism than any others I've seen since my days in the service ! R Lee Ermy was the reason for that .
Another great episode on another great movie.
To me the whole movie is so perfeftly evoked in seconds by that march past the inferno at the end to tune of the clubhouse theme.
You talk the talk... Do you walk the walk?
Gunnery Sergeant, not Sergeant. It might not seem like it, but there is a major difference.
Did someone call for Major Difference?
Gomer pyle makes me cry each time
Excellent!
I was complainin about how people these days don't engage their brains when watchin movies ... clearly that's not a recent phenomenon if presumably perfectly intelligent people managed to mistake this film for a pro-war film.
Good video Leon.
Enjoying the Kubrick analysis. Do you have any plans to work on his earlier, pre-Strangelove movies?
No matter how you dice it or slice it this is a bad azz vet. Flick
Dead Presidents would have been a good movie to mention as well. It looks at the same characters pre and post-war and we see a sharp contrast between the two.
By the time Kubrick released FMJ (1987), Apocalypse Now (1979) was already out and embedded in our culture. I remember watching FMJ at the time and wondering why the great Kubrick would bother to make what felt like a pale, and belated, imitation of Coppola’s psychedelic masterpiece.
Coppola implicitly covered the same themes (the necessary dehumanization and crazy-making of military training) by showing its ultimate effects in the hands of a powerful officer, Kurtz, as well as its corrosive effect on the relatively innocent Willard, who accepts a request to be an assassin, not just a soldier in a worthy cause.
IOW, Apocalypse was way ahead of FMJ, not just in time, but in what it took for granted in its audience (they’d already lived thru Vietnam, the riots at home, watching the daily war on TV, knowing all about My Lai, etc.), and in how deep it took the insanity that Kubrick spent two hours just to arrive at.
And Coppola’s movie was way more FUN. I really think he was at the peak of his powers and totally in sync with the zeitgeist, while Kubrick was frankly over the hill and out of touch. Dr. Strangelove was his Apocalypse Now. Maybe you only get one.
If you want the whole story of the Vietnam portion I suggest you read Hue 1968 by by Mark Bowden. The higher ups thought there only a few enemy in the city not the 20,000 that were there. Tet was a plan to to kick the Americans out and the North was expecting a massive uprising against the Government of the South. It failed, but the battle for Hue was probably the biggest fight the USMC had during the Vietnam war.
THE PROPER MOTIVATION
Hey by chance does anybody know the name of the track playing in the background of the video?
this type of video is why i'm on youtube
What is the music that plays in the background from 2:40 throughout most of the video? I recognize it, but I can't put my finger on it.
American Beauty theme I think
Watch- Dead Presidents
During my military brat day. An army guy would talk to my class and talk about suspicious behavior. And they use the scene where Private Pyle was talking to his rifle as an example.
This reminds me I need to read the original book (the short timers) only read the first part which is the first half of the movie
I watched this film in psych class
tbh this looks like the most far away a film can be from a recruitment film
What's most interesting about the movie is the audience reaction. We're shown psychopaths and we make them into heroes. They have just enough humanity left that we can recognize them and identify with them. Even more interesting is we are descended from violent apes, so it doesn't take much 'training' to bring this aspect of our our psyche back to the forefront. The question this movie asks: Is our violent nature similar to our sex drive in that we are compelled to act it out. The history of humans on this planet is one of almost continuous warfare --- same as our simian ancestors. One thing about us though, we only fight when we think we can win. Has war become so horrible that we realize at last that there are no winners? "A strange game, professor. The only winning move is not to play." Have we come to really believe that? My guess is no; eventually we will talk ourselves into thinking we can win another major war. So far, we just pick on small countries so we can easily win. Saddam had no chance against us. That's how we pick our enemies. So far.
"We're shown psychopaths and we make them into heroes"
American way of "honor to the military".
5 years late to the party but maybe this is still relevant to anybody, that writing on animal mother's helmet - "I am become death" is a part of j.r oppenheimer's qoute after his team has built the bomb: "I am become death, destroyer of worlds". Do you have a thought as to what's up with that? I mean, is it symbolic to anything? maybe a reference to Dr. strangelove?
Gimme your war face Leon! Come on!
Huh, I wonder how many people view might view the movie with the "recruitment drive" in mind, actively seeking the ideology that would represent... Still, it is nice to have context for a few quotes from this movie that people like to throw around.
I think it is more of an examination of the loss of youthful innocence. The final song is ment to remind us that these "MEN" for all of their bravado, are just removed from being boys.
The whole first half of the movie is the death of their innocence. The second have is a replacement of that innocence with anger, hypersexuality and the realization that their sacrifice means nothing.
i also noticed that cowboy is wearing a confederate flag on his helmet and he sends eightball (who is black) out to be shot by the sniper
Gomer Pyle was murdered by Hartman and the others.
Change my mind.
Admittedly I was going to be one of those young dudes going into the Corps after I saw this movie. I can remember being in high school and having all the military branches having a table in our commons during lunch at times. I graduated in 08' so we were still at war in Iraq and Afghanistan. I knew a lot of guys who went over there. There's part of me that feels like it would've had a positive impact on my life. But I'm glad I didn't. For one thing I don't like being told what to do. Though there was probably some part of me that wanted a catharsis for some innate animal nature. It's one thing to see it on the screen. I can't even begin to imagine what it's like to see someone get shot or blown to hell in front of your eyes.
Drill instructor GySgt. Hartman
apocalypse now was 1979 not "1978"
PUPPY
To the people amazed that this was viewed by some as a recruiting film: lots of people see Hartman (or his modern equivalent) as a challenge they want to see if they can get through. Some people are more than just keyboard warriors.
I think Paths of Glory was Kubrick's anti-war film, and Full Metal Jacket was his war film (neither pro or anti-war). War is war.
I enjoy your work, but can you please try to increase your speaking volume? It's not fun watching an episode only to have the pre-ad blast my ears out while the video itself is whisper quiet.
Have you ever considered reviewing "Her?" It came out in 2013 I think.
Well done review. Heretical, but to me FMJ looks like it was filmed in England with palm trees.
Maybe because there is a lot of actual documentary film from the Vietnam war.
Brutality in Vietnam? The Deer Hunter comes to mind.
Brutal sergeants in Vietnam? I think of Platoon. And there are other fine Vietnam movies as mentioned in the review.
The setting is a major thing which holds me back with this Kubrick film.
Being on location in an actual jungle sometimes is essential for a certain movie setting.
bb, If you'd ever seen real images from the Battle for Hue City, taken by real photojournalists in the thick of it, you would have noticed how incredibly faithfully Kubrick re-created the urban warfare setting. The Vietnam War didn't just happen in jungles, no matter what mainstream Hollywood would have you believe. The sets were not designed, as such: the basic setting was an abandonded gasworks site in Brixton, slated for demolition. The architecture of the original gasworks was very similar to the French Colonial architecture that was prominent in pre-war Vietnam. The only real set 'designing' was that the Production & Art Departments had a say in the partial demolition of the buildings to achieve the bombed-out, battle-ravaged look they wanted. Ok, so they shipped in a hundred or so palm trees from Spain and lit a few tyres on fire here and there - but still the illusion has always looked pretty convincing to my eyes.
@tim stewart Yes. Battle of Hue City is famous in Marine Corps lore for being the first time since WW2 that the Marines fought in urban terrain. Kubrick displayed outstanding attention to detail.
Learn some history, bb1.
Not even Kubrick's best war film either.
Alright, so a common theme in the comment section appears to be a reaction of bafflement that this could be seen as a pro-recruitment movie. I must tell you all: There is no such thing as an anti-recruitment movie.
Every time there's a popular military movie, regardless of the degree of horrifying depictions of combat, army recruitment goes up. There are a lot of youtube reviewers that basically think they've cracked the code of every male-centric movie: it's sex or male insecurity or whatever.
There are many reasons why the military is attractive to a young man, some nuanced, some not. Acting like an exciting war movie would dissuade recruitment is a very common but mistaken idea.
What Full Metal Jacket Was:It was about a Young Man (Joker) joining the Marines to serve his country,when he joins the marines everything changes, He gets bullied by the Drill Sergeant.When he gets to Vietnam he is told that he will go write a story on the Battle of Hue City (and they talk about TET) and his commanding officer tells him that his friend would be going with him.When they are at their bunks, the NVA/VC forces attack the base, then it goes over to a helicopter ride, then the walk to the plaza where Cowboys squad is. And then they see the bodys, Animal Mother says somethings and they go. when they get to the city, 2 people are killed by the teen sniper (VC Sniper). And then Cowboy is killed then the raid on the Snipers building takes place and Jokers friend saves him and they sing M I C K E Y M O U S E, then he talks about how he wants to have sexWOW That took me so long to type..
I have to disagree with the idea that man has this animal side, this violent side. Or, to be more accurate, I disagree with the abolousotion of that way of thinking. I see its part animal insticts and cultural influence. Culture influences what people think and what is considered "right". It can, and has said, animal insticts are normal to humans/men, even though there is no biological evidence of this.
+Schoedsack More of a superego dilemma than an id dilemma then...